[AI] Fwd: [jnuvision] Re: Protest against promised ordinance to clear RPD Bill at AICC Office today
-- Forwarded message -- From: rajesh kumar raajj...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:51:12 +0530 Subject: Re: [jnuvision] Re: [AI] Protest against promised ordinance to clear RPD Bill at AICC Office today To: jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com Cc: abid...@gmail.com, AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in, santoshkumar.rungta santoshkumar.run...@gmail.com, disability-studies-india disability-studies-in...@googlegroups.com, sayeverything sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org Abidijee, I am sorry to say that over the last month, your observable behaviour with regard to RPD Bill is deeply regrettable. It is not in conformity with ethics, politics or academics of disability. You must be aware that almost all expert opinion that emerged in response to your push to the RPD Bill is against you. Any sensible and honourable person by this time would have a taken a deep breath and sit back, but you are the one who is still committed to waste time of others and the fact is that your position, your reasoning and your Bill if it is yours - all are deeply flawed. I think enough is enough. you need to come out absolutely clear on the introduced Bill saying, according to me, that the Bill is deeply flawed and you are apologetic to provide push to its passage. It does not make any sense that I am niether against the promulgation of ordinance nor fore it. You are on your own admission the part of the Lok Sansad. Any delegation that goes for the promulgation of ordinance for other Bills, would you not go as its member? If yes, mixing is bound to happen and you are required to inspire confidence among your critics that you are not at all up to something that you have been up to over the last month. The reason is that your Bill was not taken up for passage, because the necessary consensus to pass it on voice vote was absent on the floor of the Rajya Sabha. Let me quote Smt. Kanimozhi to you who said on the floor of the House while opposing the passage of the Bill: We have a strong objection to The Disabilities Bill. We wanted it to be sent to the Standing Committee. We will not allow it to be taken up today. Do you think that these are normal and ordinary words. I have heard that you have been a journalist. If this is correct, you must have the ability to discern the strength and intensity of words and language and if that is so, as a person with dignity, you must not let the mixing happen. You are required to respect the dignity of the House. In your frenzy of trying to push us down the slippery slope, you can't compel the government to commit the contempt of the legislature. On 2/22/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: Mr Abidi You wrote, 'Somehow the Disability Rights Bill got mixed up there'. really? should we believe you? according to article 123 of Indian Constitution, (1) 'If at any time, except when both Houses of Parliament are in session, the President is satisfied that circumstances exist which render it necessary for him to take immediate action, he may promulgate such Ordinance as the circumstances appear to him to require'. http://indiankanoon.org/doc/1218134/ When we have already existing act PWD law operating in India then why not to have necessary amendments through an ordinance in said act? and have a provision where all benefits and services be extended to all categories (ready to be included) things would have been very much to the satisfaction to all categories if amendments were sought in the PWD act. But unfortunately your directionless so called activism has put newly categories in very difficult situation. RPD Bill is with standing committee and an ordinance which will not be promulgated but if, will be challenged in the highest Court. And outcome you can well foresee... Good luck.. On 2/22/14, abid...@gmail.com abid...@gmail.com wrote: AN URGENT CLARIFICATION: Friends, Before all of you go into a collective frenzy, please read my statement below. The issue of an Ordinance was brought up by Lok Sansad vis a vis their remaing Bills. In their speech before Shri Rahul Gandhi, they made this demand. Somehow the Disability Rights Bill got mixed up there. My own view was and is that the concept of an Ordinance is not a very good idea in a democracy. It is certainly not a preferred option. However, if MSJE initiates a process and if the UPA Government decides to bring an Ordinance, especially to placate the groups of neglected, marginalised disabilities and the deaf people who are in an urgent need to enjoy their rights, then I for one will not oppose it either. So, the sum total is as follows: One, bringing an Ordinance is not my idea or that of DRG. Two, as of now, I am neither for it nor against it. Three, for sure, we (DRG) are not going to agitate for it. With good wishes, Javed Abidi 22.2.2014 Sent on my BlackBerry(R) from Vodafone -Original
Re: [AI] Fwd: [jnuvision] Re: Protest against promised ordinance to clear RPD Bill at AICC Office today
mr. Abidi, I do welcome your effort but not in good sense because it is leading to distruction of entire disability arena. as you have writen your previous mail that it was your personal ideas but how you can impose it on whole disability community. here I would like to tell you some obious result because of your bad, cheating and non-sense politics. firstly you have divided the blind and o.h.community in two groups which was earlier in single frame. secondly: you have dininished the activism of d.r.g. finally you have created the non-gapeavle space in the disability movement. in the end I would like to advise you that please leave the disability activism and joine the corrupt congress. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Fwd: [jnuvision] Re: Protest against promised ordinance to clear RPD Bill at AICC Office today
May I request everyone to use this platform for collective ideas and discuss positive solutions. It's not the place for criticising one another. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C On 23-Feb-2014, at 16:05, pankaj Singh kushwaha justicewith...@gmail.com wrote: mr. Abidi, I do welcome your effort but not in good sense because it is leading to distruction of entire disability arena. as you have writen your previous mail that it was your personal ideas but how you can impose it on whole disability community. here I would like to tell you some obious result because of your bad, cheating and non-sense politics. firstly you have divided the blind and o.h.community in two groups which was earlier in single frame. secondly: you have dininished the activism of d.r.g. finally you have created the non-gapeavle space in the disability movement. in the end I would like to advise you that please leave the disability activism and joine the corrupt congress. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Fwd: [jnuvision] Re: Protest against promised ordinance to clear RPD Bill at AICC Office today
Srinivasu sir It is very plain to talk for unity and you have been again and again talking about it in this thread. And if this Bill had got passed leaving the concerns of thousands unaddressed who would have been held accountable? Please let the differences explode in publick. So that all can learn from each other. On 2/23/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote: May I request everyone to use this platform for collective ideas and discuss positive solutions. It's not the place for criticising one another. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C On 23-Feb-2014, at 16:05, pankaj Singh kushwaha justicewith...@gmail.com wrote: mr. Abidi, I do welcome your effort but not in good sense because it is leading to distruction of entire disability arena. as you have writen your previous mail that it was your personal ideas but how you can impose it on whole disability community. here I would like to tell you some obious result because of your bad, cheating and non-sense politics. firstly you have divided the blind and o.h.community in two groups which was earlier in single frame. secondly: you have dininished the activism of d.r.g. finally you have created the non-gapeavle space in the disability movement. in the end I would like to advise you that please leave the disability activism and joine the corrupt congress. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Avinash Shahi M.Phil Research Scholar Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Fwd: [jnuvision] Re: Protest against promised ordinance to clear RPD Bill at AICC Office today
yes avinash. everybody want unity. anger and criticism is coming only due to some pushing this bill for ordinance. first of all, we should make all disability people understand that this bill is benificial to nobody including mentally challenged who are newly included. everybody should understand this. let them reply what those group get benifits if they get country wide accepted disability certificate then getting no job since, companies always can find some reason or another to exclude them from all kinds of job? On 2/23/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: Srinivasu sir It is very plain to talk for unity and you have been again and again talking about it in this thread. And if this Bill had got passed leaving the concerns of thousands unaddressed who would have been held accountable? Please let the differences explode in publick. So that all can learn from each other. On 2/23/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote: May I request everyone to use this platform for collective ideas and discuss positive solutions. It's not the place for criticising one another. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C On 23-Feb-2014, at 16:05, pankaj Singh kushwaha justicewith...@gmail.com wrote: mr. Abidi, I do welcome your effort but not in good sense because it is leading to distruction of entire disability arena. as you have writen your previous mail that it was your personal ideas but how you can impose it on whole disability community. here I would like to tell you some obious result because of your bad, cheating and non-sense politics. firstly you have divided the blind and o.h.community in two groups which was earlier in single frame. secondly: you have dininished the activism of d.r.g. finally you have created the non-gapeavle space in the disability movement. in the end I would like to advise you that please leave the disability activism and joine the corrupt congress. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Avinash Shahi M.Phil Research Scholar Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, clerk in andhrabank, mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
