Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[bilal ahmed]

kunchan ma'adam pleas share the same on my personal mail id
bilal0...@yahoo.com

On 12/10/16, sazid shaik <ashwaqahmed@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear list, how much time it will take to impliment this by central govt
>
> On 12/9/16, sadaf khan <ksadaf1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi
>> kanchan, could you please send the circular to us?? it will make
>> easier to deal with situations when confronted.
>> regarding the bill, I have yet not understood the need for splitting
>> the low vision and totally blind category, let alone be the increase
>> of the kinds of disabilities.
>>
>> On 12/9/16, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Avinash, On the topic of preferring low vision to the Blind.
>>> Yes I agree that most offices would prefer having persons with low
>>> vision.
>>> So when I was involved with the litigation in Maharashtra we got 2
>>> statements from the government  at different times  stating that the more
>>> disabled person would be preferred for a job.
>>> Yes I know the ground realities but atleast we recognise the problem in
>>> Maharashtra and we have a government circular to deal with it.
>>> Kanchan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of avinash shahi
>>> Sent: 07 December 2016 12:59
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>
>>> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided between
>>> totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory read on the
>>> amendments and asking the biggest question why the government has not yet
>>> specified in clear terms about how the 4 per cent reservation will be
>>> distributed among increased categories in the proposed Bill. The
>>> instances
>>> abound where the low-vision have hundred per cent certificate and the
>>> sighted people have low-vision certificate and they are using the
>>> document
>>> to sail through in the government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving
>>> certificate but what about the menace of fake certificates? what does the
>>> law say about it?
>>> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
>>> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind people
>>> in
>>> their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government offices don't
>>> want
>>> those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go from here, in hell
>>> perhaps.  people living in the cities and those already employed are
>>> fortunate ones. and those who've sound family support system and keep on
>>> teaching list that 'something is good than nothing' will continue to sing
>>> the government version song  for their personal goals. They are very much
>>> in
>>> demand for awards. And they will continue to play partisan role to be
>>> patronized. upcoming times are not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn
>>> the
>>> art to face the bumpy road from the so called 'normal' and from our own
>>> blind friends who are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational'
>>> and
>>> 'role models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
>>> disabled...
>>>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon.
>>>>> Supreme Court..
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
>>>>>> with this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In
>>>>>> my openion, through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated
>>>>>> from the main stream.
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>>

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[sazid shaik]

Dear list, how much time it will take to impliment this by central govt

On 12/9/16, sadaf khan <ksadaf1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi
> kanchan, could you please send the circular to us?? it will make
> easier to deal with situations when confronted.
> regarding the bill, I have yet not understood the need for splitting
> the low vision and totally blind category, let alone be the increase
> of the kinds of disabilities.
>
> On 12/9/16, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Avinash, On the topic of preferring low vision to the Blind.
>> Yes I agree that most offices would prefer having persons with low vision.
>> So when I was involved with the litigation in Maharashtra we got 2
>> statements from the government  at different times  stating that the more
>> disabled person would be preferred for a job.
>> Yes I know the ground realities but atleast we recognise the problem in
>> Maharashtra and we have a government circular to deal with it.
>> Kanchan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 07 December 2016 12:59
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided between
>> totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory read on the
>> amendments and asking the biggest question why the government has not yet
>> specified in clear terms about how the 4 per cent reservation will be
>> distributed among increased categories in the proposed Bill. The instances
>> abound where the low-vision have hundred per cent certificate and the
>> sighted people have low-vision certificate and they are using the document
>> to sail through in the government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving
>> certificate but what about the menace of fake certificates? what does the
>> law say about it?
>> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
>> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind people
>> in
>> their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government offices don't
>> want
>> those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go from here, in hell
>> perhaps.  people living in the cities and those already employed are
>> fortunate ones. and those who've sound family support system and keep on
>> teaching list that 'something is good than nothing' will continue to sing
>> the government version song  for their personal goals. They are very much
>> in
>> demand for awards. And they will continue to play partisan role to be
>> patronized. upcoming times are not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn
>> the
>> art to face the bumpy road from the so called 'normal' and from our own
>> blind friends who are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and
>> 'role models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
>> disabled...
>>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon.
>>>> Supreme Court..
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
>>>>> with this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In
>>>>> my openion, through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated
>>>>> from the main stream.
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally
>>>>>> blind?
>>>>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'AccessIn

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[sadaf khan]

hi
kanchan, could you please send the circular to us?? it will make
easier to deal with situations when confronted.
regarding the bill, I have yet not understood the need for splitting
the low vision and totally blind category, let alone be the increase
of the kinds of disabilities.

On 12/9/16, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Avinash, On the topic of preferring low vision to the Blind.
> Yes I agree that most offices would prefer having persons with low vision.
> So when I was involved with the litigation in Maharashtra we got 2
> statements from the government  at different times  stating that the more
> disabled person would be preferred for a job.
> Yes I know the ground realities but atleast we recognise the problem in
> Maharashtra and we have a government circular to deal with it.
> Kanchan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 07 December 2016 12:59
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided between
> totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory read on the
> amendments and asking the biggest question why the government has not yet
> specified in clear terms about how the 4 per cent reservation will be
> distributed among increased categories in the proposed Bill. The instances
> abound where the low-vision have hundred per cent certificate and the
> sighted people have low-vision certificate and they are using the document
> to sail through in the government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving
> certificate but what about the menace of fake certificates? what does the
> law say about it?
> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind people in
> their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government offices don't want
> those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go from here, in hell
> perhaps.  people living in the cities and those already employed are
> fortunate ones. and those who've sound family support system and keep on
> teaching list that 'something is good than nothing' will continue to sing
> the government version song  for their personal goals. They are very much in
> demand for awards. And they will continue to play partisan role to be
> patronized. upcoming times are not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn the
> art to face the bumpy road from the so called 'normal' and from our own
> blind friends who are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and
> 'role models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
> disabled...
>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>
>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon.
>>> Supreme Court..
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
>>>> with this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In
>>>> my openion, through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated
>>>> from the main stream.
>>>> - Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
>>>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No it isn’t.
>>>>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>>>>> strategic thinki

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Kanchan Pamnani]

Avinash, On the topic of preferring low vision to the Blind. 
Yes I agree that most offices would prefer having persons with low vision. 
So when I was involved with the litigation in Maharashtra we got 2 statements 
from the government  at different times  stating that the more disabled person 
would be preferred for a job. 
Yes I know the ground realities but atleast we recognise the problem in 
Maharashtra and we have a government circular to deal with it. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: 07 December 2016 12:59
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided between totally 
blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory read on the amendments and 
asking the biggest question why the government has not yet specified in clear 
terms about how the 4 per cent reservation will be distributed among increased 
categories in the proposed Bill. The instances abound where the low-vision have 
hundred per cent certificate and the sighted people have low-vision certificate 
and they are using the document to sail through in the government jobs. 
Government is hellbent in giving certificate but what about the menace of fake 
certificates? what does the law say about it?
I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar Pradesh 
have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind people in their 
offices at any cost. In fact majority of government offices don't want those 
who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go from here, in hell perhaps.  
people living in the cities and those already employed are fortunate ones. and 
those who've sound family support system and keep on teaching list that 
'something is good than nothing' will continue to sing the government version 
song  for their personal goals. They are very much in demand for awards. And 
they will continue to play partisan role to be patronized. upcoming times are 
not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn the art to face the bumpy road from 
the so called 'normal' and from our own blind friends who are there to 
collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and 'role models'; cause being ordinary 
is an extraordinary crime if you are disabled...
 On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>
> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon. 
>> Supreme Court..
>>
>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve 
>>> with this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In 
>>> my openion, through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated 
>>> from the main stream.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
>>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No it isn’t.
>>>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>>>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>>>>> Kanchan
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
>>>>> 

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[sazid shaik]

Sorry my dear friends, I could not understand on this bill amendment.
One thing is that I felt happy that all state/central govt depertments
has to impliment this reservation in jobs will be fast after the
approval of this bill.  I hope some thing is better than nothing.

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 12/7/16, Ajay Minocha <ajayminoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 100% Agree with Avinash, detecting the actual percentage has been a
> grey area since long and the so-called visually impaired feternity is
> the biggest threat to the livelyhood and employment of people in
> genuan need.
>
> Regards,
> Ajay
>
> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Glad to see the discussion going on the right direction and would like
>> to have more clarity on the proposed reservation ratio..
>> On 12/7/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Faking blindness looks as jenuin as one real blind man/woman. It will
>>> be near impossible to knab such criminals. Moreover, many government
>>> establishments will prefer taking fake disabled rather the jenuin
>>> people with disabilities. This is the practice being in place in many
>>> states already.
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> other categories will be entitled for other beneficed such as
>>>> concession , right to food shelter and cloth .
>>>> .5 for low vision and .5 for blind is not clear yet and the person who
>>>> possess fake certificate can be imprisoned and also be charged high
>>>> fine
>>>> there is provision for penalty who uses fake certificate
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided
>>>>> between totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory
>>>>> read on the amendments and asking the biggest question why the
>>>>> government has not yet specified in clear terms about how the 4 per
>>>>> cent reservation will be distributed among increased categories in the
>>>>> proposed Bill. The instances abound where the low-vision have hundred
>>>>> per cent certificate and the sighted people have low-vision
>>>>> certificate and they are using the document to sail through in the
>>>>> government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving certificate but what
>>>>> about the menace of fake certificates? what does the law say about it?
>>>>> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
>>>>> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind
>>>>> people in their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government
>>>>> offices don't want those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go
>>>>> from here, in hell perhaps.  people living in the cities and those
>>>>> already employed are fortunate ones. and those who've sound family
>>>>> support system and keep on teaching list that 'something is good than
>>>>> nothing' will continue to sing the government version song  for their
>>>>> personal goals. They are very much in demand for awards. And they will
>>>>> continue to play partisan role to be patronized. upcoming times are
>>>>> not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn the art to face the bumpy
>>>>> road from the so called 'normal' and from our own blind friends who
>>>>> are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and 'role
>>>>> models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
>>>>> disabled...
>>>>>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon.
>>>>>>> Supreme
>>>>>>> Court..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
>>>>>>>> openion,
>>>>>>>> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated fr

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Ajay Minocha]

100% Agree with Avinash, detecting the actual percentage has been a
grey area since long and the so-called visually impaired feternity is
the biggest threat to the livelyhood and employment of people in
genuan need.

Regards,
Ajay

On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Glad to see the discussion going on the right direction and would like
> to have more clarity on the proposed reservation ratio..
> On 12/7/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Faking blindness looks as jenuin as one real blind man/woman. It will
>> be near impossible to knab such criminals. Moreover, many government
>> establishments will prefer taking fake disabled rather the jenuin
>> people with disabilities. This is the practice being in place in many
>> states already.
>>
>> On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> other categories will be entitled for other beneficed such as
>>> concession , right to food shelter and cloth .
>>> .5 for low vision and .5 for blind is not clear yet and the person who
>>> possess fake certificate can be imprisoned and also be charged high
>>> fine
>>> there is provision for penalty who uses fake certificate
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided
>>>> between totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory
>>>> read on the amendments and asking the biggest question why the
>>>> government has not yet specified in clear terms about how the 4 per
>>>> cent reservation will be distributed among increased categories in the
>>>> proposed Bill. The instances abound where the low-vision have hundred
>>>> per cent certificate and the sighted people have low-vision
>>>> certificate and they are using the document to sail through in the
>>>> government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving certificate but what
>>>> about the menace of fake certificates? what does the law say about it?
>>>> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
>>>> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind
>>>> people in their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government
>>>> offices don't want those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go
>>>> from here, in hell perhaps.  people living in the cities and those
>>>> already employed are fortunate ones. and those who've sound family
>>>> support system and keep on teaching list that 'something is good than
>>>> nothing' will continue to sing the government version song  for their
>>>> personal goals. They are very much in demand for awards. And they will
>>>> continue to play partisan role to be patronized. upcoming times are
>>>> not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn the art to face the bumpy
>>>> road from the so called 'normal' and from our own blind friends who
>>>> are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and 'role
>>>> models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
>>>> disabled...
>>>>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon.
>>>>>> Supreme
>>>>>> Court..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
>>>>>>> openion,
>>>>>>> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main
>>>>>>> stream.
>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>>> concerning
>>>>>>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>>
>>>>&

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Mujeeb Rahman]

Glad to see the discussion going on the right direction and would like
to have more clarity on the proposed reservation ratio..
On 12/7/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Faking blindness looks as jenuin as one real blind man/woman. It will
> be near impossible to knab such criminals. Moreover, many government
> establishments will prefer taking fake disabled rather the jenuin
> people with disabilities. This is the practice being in place in many
> states already.
>
> On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> other categories will be entitled for other beneficed such as
>> concession , right to food shelter and cloth .
>> .5 for low vision and .5 for blind is not clear yet and the person who
>> possess fake certificate can be imprisoned and also be charged high
>> fine
>> there is provision for penalty who uses fake certificate
>>
>> On 12/7/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided
>>> between totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory
>>> read on the amendments and asking the biggest question why the
>>> government has not yet specified in clear terms about how the 4 per
>>> cent reservation will be distributed among increased categories in the
>>> proposed Bill. The instances abound where the low-vision have hundred
>>> per cent certificate and the sighted people have low-vision
>>> certificate and they are using the document to sail through in the
>>> government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving certificate but what
>>> about the menace of fake certificates? what does the law say about it?
>>> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
>>> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind
>>> people in their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government
>>> offices don't want those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go
>>> from here, in hell perhaps.  people living in the cities and those
>>> already employed are fortunate ones. and those who've sound family
>>> support system and keep on teaching list that 'something is good than
>>> nothing' will continue to sing the government version song  for their
>>> personal goals. They are very much in demand for awards. And they will
>>> continue to play partisan role to be patronized. upcoming times are
>>> not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn the art to face the bumpy
>>> road from the so called 'normal' and from our own blind friends who
>>> are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and 'role
>>> models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
>>> disabled...
>>>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon.
>>>>> Supreme
>>>>> Court..
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
>>>>>> openion,
>>>>>> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main
>>>>>> stream.
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>> concerning
>>>>>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally
>>>>>>> blind?
>>>>>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessin

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[avinash shahi]

Faking blindness looks as jenuin as one real blind man/woman. It will
be near impossible to knab such criminals. Moreover, many government
establishments will prefer taking fake disabled rather the jenuin
people with disabilities. This is the practice being in place in many
states already.

On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> other categories will be entitled for other beneficed such as
> concession , right to food shelter and cloth .
> .5 for low vision and .5 for blind is not clear yet and the person who
> possess fake certificate can be imprisoned and also be charged high
> fine
> there is provision for penalty who uses fake certificate
>
> On 12/7/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided
>> between totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory
>> read on the amendments and asking the biggest question why the
>> government has not yet specified in clear terms about how the 4 per
>> cent reservation will be distributed among increased categories in the
>> proposed Bill. The instances abound where the low-vision have hundred
>> per cent certificate and the sighted people have low-vision
>> certificate and they are using the document to sail through in the
>> government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving certificate but what
>> about the menace of fake certificates? what does the law say about it?
>> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
>> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind
>> people in their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government
>> offices don't want those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go
>> from here, in hell perhaps.  people living in the cities and those
>> already employed are fortunate ones. and those who've sound family
>> support system and keep on teaching list that 'something is good than
>> nothing' will continue to sing the government version song  for their
>> personal goals. They are very much in demand for awards. And they will
>> continue to play partisan role to be patronized. upcoming times are
>> not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn the art to face the bumpy
>> road from the so called 'normal' and from our own blind friends who
>> are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and 'role
>> models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
>> disabled...
>>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon. Supreme
>>>> Court..
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
>>>>> with
>>>>> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
>>>>> openion,
>>>>> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main
>>>>> stream.
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning
>>>>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally
>>>>>> blind?
>>>>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No it isn’t.
>>>>>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>>>>>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>>>>>>> Kanchan
>>>>>>>
>>>&g

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[akshun mahajan]

other categories will be entitled for other beneficed such as
concession , right to food shelter and cloth .
.5 for low vision and .5 for blind is not clear yet and the person who
possess fake certificate can be imprisoned and also be charged high
fine
there is provision for penalty who uses fake certificate

On 12/7/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided
> between totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory
> read on the amendments and asking the biggest question why the
> government has not yet specified in clear terms about how the 4 per
> cent reservation will be distributed among increased categories in the
> proposed Bill. The instances abound where the low-vision have hundred
> per cent certificate and the sighted people have low-vision
> certificate and they are using the document to sail through in the
> government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving certificate but what
> about the menace of fake certificates? what does the law say about it?
> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind
> people in their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government
> offices don't want those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go
> from here, in hell perhaps.  people living in the cities and those
> already employed are fortunate ones. and those who've sound family
> support system and keep on teaching list that 'something is good than
> nothing' will continue to sing the government version song  for their
> personal goals. They are very much in demand for awards. And they will
> continue to play partisan role to be patronized. upcoming times are
> not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn the art to face the bumpy
> road from the so called 'normal' and from our own blind friends who
> are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and 'role
> models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
> disabled...
>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>
>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon. Supreme
>>> Court..
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve with
>>>> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
>>>> openion,
>>>> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main
>>>> stream.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning
>>>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
>>>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No it isn’t.
>>>>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>>>>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>>>>>> Kanchan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
>>>>>> sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
>>>>>> On 12/2/16, Ge

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[avinash shahi]

How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided
between totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory
read on the amendments and asking the biggest question why the
government has not yet specified in clear terms about how the 4 per
cent reservation will be distributed among increased categories in the
proposed Bill. The instances abound where the low-vision have hundred
per cent certificate and the sighted people have low-vision
certificate and they are using the document to sail through in the
government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving certificate but what
about the menace of fake certificates? what does the law say about it?
I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind
people in their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government
offices don't want those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go
from here, in hell perhaps.  people living in the cities and those
already employed are fortunate ones. and those who've sound family
support system and keep on teaching list that 'something is good than
nothing' will continue to sing the government version song  for their
personal goals. They are very much in demand for awards. And they will
continue to play partisan role to be patronized. upcoming times are
not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn the art to face the bumpy
road from the so called 'normal' and from our own blind friends who
are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and 'role
models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
disabled...
 On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>
> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon. Supreme
>> Court..
>>
>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve with
>>> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
>>> openion,
>>> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main
>>> stream.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
>>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No it isn’t.
>>>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>>>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>>>>> Kanchan
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
>>>>> sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
>>>>> On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Suggest a hair cut!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
>>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>> concerning
>>>>>> the disabled.'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Aravind R]

then what is the use of new category people added here?
is there any benefit they get apart from reservation?

On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> well I have different view Mr. rungta is trying every best possibility
> to ensure protection of rights of blind.
> we must support him since he  is tirelessly working on RPD bill and
> ensuring our rights
>
>
> On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>
>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon. Supreme
>>> Court..
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve with
>>>> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
>>>> openion,
>>>> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main
>>>> stream.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning
>>>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
>>>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No it isn’t.
>>>>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>>>>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>>>>>> Kanchan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
>>>>>> sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
>>>>>> On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Suggest a hair cut!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
>>>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>>> concerning
>>>>>>> the disabled.'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some
>>>>>>> circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
>>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>>> concerning
>>>>>>> the disabled.
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, let me pose it this way:
>>>>>>> will it make any difference on the ground?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>&

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[akshun mahajan]

well I have different view Mr. rungta is trying every best possibility
to ensure protection of rights of blind.
we must support him since he  is tirelessly working on RPD bill and
ensuring our rights


On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan <akshunmahajan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>
> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon. Supreme
>> Court..
>>
>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve with
>>> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
>>> openion,
>>> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main
>>> stream.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
>>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No it isn’t.
>>>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>>>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>>>>> Kanchan
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
>>>>> sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
>>>>> On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Suggest a hair cut!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
>>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>> concerning
>>>>>> the disabled.'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some
>>>>>> circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-
>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>> concerning
>>>>>> the disabled.
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, let me pose it this way:
>>>>>> will it make any difference on the ground?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, let it come, now.
>>>>>> I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
>>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibil

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[akshun mahajan]

reservation of blind will not be tempered.

On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon. Supreme
> Court..
>
> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve with
>> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
>> openion,
>> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main
>> stream.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>>
>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>
>>>
>>>> No it isn’t.
>>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>>>> Kanchan
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>> Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
>>>> sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
>>>> On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>>>> Suggest a hair cut!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning
>>>>> the disabled.'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some
>>>>> circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning
>>>>> the disabled.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, let me pose it this way:
>>>>> will it make any difference on the ground?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, let it come, now.
>>>>> I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning
>>>>> the disabled.'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>>
>>>>> So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or
>>>>> a
>>>>> diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last
>>>>> 2
>>>>> years.
>>>>> Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
>>>>> I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public
>>&g

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Mujeeb Rahman]

Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon. Supreme Court..

On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve with
> this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my openion,
> through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main stream.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
>
>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>>
>>> No it isn’t.
>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>>> Kanchan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>
>>> Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
>>> sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
>>> On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>>> Suggest a hair cut!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning
>>>> the disabled.'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>> Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some
>>>> circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald?
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning
>>>> the disabled.
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>> Well, let me pose it this way:
>>>> will it make any difference on the ground?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, let it come, now.
>>>> I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning
>>>> the disabled.'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>>
>>>> So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or
>>>> a
>>>> diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last
>>>> 2
>>>> years.
>>>> Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
>>>> I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements
>>>>
>>>> etc
>>>> make me feelvery anxious.
>>>> I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we
>>>>
>>>> had
>>>> in 2014?
>>>> All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
>>>> Do we have to wait for 2036?
>>>> My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
>>>> Kanchan
>>>>
>>>> -Origina

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[B. R. Nautial]

I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve with 
this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my openion, 
through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main stream.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sakina Dhariwala " <sfd100...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information



Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
With warm regards Sakina.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information



No it isn’t.
It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non 
strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.

Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:

Suggest a hair cut!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some
circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Well, let me pose it this way:
will it make any difference on the ground?

Anyway, let it come, now.
I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or 
a
diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 
2

years.
Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements 
etc

make me feelvery anxious.
I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we 
had

in 2014?
All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
Do we have to wait for 2036?
My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of George Abraham
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving 
the

RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of avinash shahi
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news 
of

cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed 
has
not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which 
is

troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar
Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The
government is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished 
the

social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on
asking "who is the minister concerned, name him name him!" and does 
anyone

has any info about the 

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Sakina Dhariwala]

Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally blind?
With warm regards Sakina.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information



No it isn’t.
It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non 
strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.

Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:

Suggest a hair cut!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some
circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Well, let me pose it this way:
will it make any difference on the ground?

Anyway, let it come, now.
I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a
diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2
years.
Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements 
etc

make me feelvery anxious.
I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we 
had

in 2014?
All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
Do we have to wait for 2036?
My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of George Abraham
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving 
the

RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of avinash shahi
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news 
of

cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has
not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which 
is

troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar
Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The
government is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the
social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on
asking "who is the minister concerned, name him name him!" and does 
anyone

has any info about the 29th November meeting called by the disability
department after the Apex court's anger?

On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:

I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.

Sent from my iPhone


On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
wrote:

-- Forwarded message --
From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled
<nprd...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
To:

Government of India
Ministry of Social Justice &

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[akshun mahajan]

employment reservation will not be for every category.

On 12/6/16, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No it isn’t.
> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
> Kanchan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Mujeeb Rahman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
> sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
> On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>> Suggest a hair cut!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>> Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>> Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some
>> circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>> Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>> Well, let me pose it this way:
>> will it make any difference on the ground?
>>
>> Anyway, let it come, now.
>> I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>> So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a
>> diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2
>> years.
>> Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
>> I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements
>> etc
>> make me feelvery anxious.
>> I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we
>> had
>> in 2014?
>> All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
>> Do we have to wait for 2036?
>> My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
>> Kanchan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of George Abraham
>> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>> Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving
>> the
>> RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>> I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
>> amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news
>> of
>> cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
>> This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has
>> not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is
>> troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar
>> Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The
>> government is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the
>> social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on
>> asking "who is the minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone
>> has any info about the 29th November meeting called by the disability
>

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Kanchan Pamnani]

No it isn’t. 
It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non strategic 
thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mujeeb Rahman
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
> Suggest a hair cut!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some
> circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> Well, let me pose it this way:
> will it make any difference on the ground?
>
> Anyway, let it come, now.
> I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a
> diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2
> years.
> Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
> I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements etc
> make me feelvery anxious.
> I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we had
> in 2014?
> All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
> Do we have to wait for 2036?
> My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
> Kanchan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the
> RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
> amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news of
> cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
> This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has
> not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is
> troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar
> Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The
> government is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the
> social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on
> asking "who is the minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone
> has any info about the 29th November meeting called by the disability
> department after the Apex court's anger?
>
> On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
>> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled
>>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for inf

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Mujeeb Rahman]

Have a single question: is 4% reservation in government jobs
sufficient for 21 types of disabilities??
On 12/2/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
> Suggest a hair cut!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some
> circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> Well, let me pose it this way:
> will it make any difference on the ground?
>
> Anyway, let it come, now.
> I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a
> diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2
> years.
> Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
> I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements etc
> make me feelvery anxious.
> I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we had
> in 2014?
> All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
> Do we have to wait for 2036?
> My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
> Kanchan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the
> RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
> amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news of
> cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
> This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has
> not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is
> troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar
> Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The
> government is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the
> social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on
> asking "who is the minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone
> has any info about the 29th November meeting called by the disability
> department after the Apex court's anger?
>
> On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
>> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled
>>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>> To:
>>>
>>> Government of India
>>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>>
>>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
>>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
>>> Parliament
>>>
>>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
&

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[George Abraham]

Suggest a hair cut!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 02 December 2016 13:54
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some 
circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald? 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Well, let me pose it this way:
will it make any difference on the ground?

Anyway, let it come, now.
I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a 
diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2 years.
Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements etc 
make me feelvery anxious.
I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we had in 
2014?
All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
Do we have to wait for 2036?
My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the 
RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of 
amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news of 
cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has not 
covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is 
troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar 
Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The government 
is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the social Justice 
Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on asking "who is the 
minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone has any info about the 
29th November meeting called by the disability department after the Apex 
court's anger?

On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled 
>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>> To:
>>
>> Government of India
>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>
>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of 
>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of 
>> Parliament
>>
>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of 
>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice 
>> and Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons 
>> with Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of Parliament.
>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons 
>> with Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>
>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons 
>> with Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st 
>> October,

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Kanchan Pamnani]

Yes the law has gotten delayed. Some of it is our own fault and some 
circumstantial. shall I have a hair cut or will you insist I go bald? 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 02 December 2016 11:51
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Well, let me pose it this way:
will it make any difference on the ground?

Anyway, let it come, now.
I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a 
diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2 years.
Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements etc 
make me feelvery anxious.
I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we had in 
2014?
All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
Do we have to wait for 2036?
My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the 
RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of 
amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news of 
cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has not 
covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is 
troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar 
Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The government 
is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the social Justice 
Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on asking "who is the 
minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone has any info about the 
29th November meeting called by the disability department after the Apex 
court's anger?

On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled 
>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>> To:
>>
>> Government of India
>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>
>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of 
>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of 
>> Parliament
>>
>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of 
>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice 
>> and Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons 
>> with Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of Parliament.
>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons 
>> with Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>
>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons 
>> with Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st 
>> October, 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being 
>> a signatory to the Convention, India has an international obligation 
>> to comply with the provisions of the Convention.
>>
>> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully 
>> in conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Aravind R]

no discussion in rajyasabha today it seams. upto now fight on
demonetisation going. reservation is almost 4% only but number of
disability criteria is increased. so no idea how they are going to
split.

On 12/2/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Well, let me pose it this way:
> will it make any difference on the ground?
>
> Anyway, let it come, now.
> I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a
> diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2
> years.
> Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
> I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements etc
> make me feelvery anxious.
> I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we had
> in 2014?
> All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
> Do we have to wait for 2036?
> My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
> Kanchan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the
> RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
> amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news of
> cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
> This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has
> not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is
> troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar
> Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The
> government is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the
> social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on
> asking "who is the minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone
> has any info about the 29th November meeting called by the disability
> department after the Apex court's anger?
>
> On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
>> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled
>>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>> To:
>>>
>>> Government of India
>>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>>
>>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
>>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
>>> Parliament
>>>
>>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
>>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice
>>> and Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons
>>> with Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of
>>> Parliament.
>>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons
>>> with Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>>
>>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons
>>> with Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st
>>> October, 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being
>>> a signatory to the Convention, India

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Well, let me pose it this way:
will it make any difference on the ground?

Anyway, let it come, now.
I have won the bate, Kanchan, if you remember!


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:35 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a 
diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2 years.
Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements etc 
make me feelvery anxious.
I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we had in 
2014?
All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
Do we have to wait for 2036?
My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the 
RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of 
amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news of 
cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has not 
covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is 
troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar 
Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The government 
is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the social Justice 
Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on asking "who is the 
minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone has any info about the 
29th November meeting called by the disability department after the Apex 
court's anger?

On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled
>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>> To:
>>
>> Government of India
>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>
>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
>> Parliament
>>
>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice
>> and Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons
>> with Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of Parliament.
>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons
>> with Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>
>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons
>> with Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st
>> October, 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being
>> a signatory to the Convention, India has an international obligation
>> to comply with the provisions of the Convention.
>>
>> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully
>> in conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a
>> rights-based legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The
>> Bill had been mooted by the Ministry of Social Justice and
>> Empowerment after extensive consultation with various stakeholders,
>> State Governments/UTs and concerned Central Ministries and
>> Departments. Now after another round of consultations and inputs from
>> the Standing Committee of Parliament, Amendments have been 

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Amar Jain]

I echo the same sentiments. We have already seen much dilutions, and hope the 
amendments reflect some wisdom.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 01-Dec-2016, at 5:34 PM, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a 
> diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2 
> years. 
> Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution? 
> I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements etc 
> make me feelvery anxious. 
> I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we had 
> in 2014?
> All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results. 
> Do we have to wait for 2036? 
> My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
> Kanchan 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
> 
> Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the 
> RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
> 
> I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of 
> amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news of 
> cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
> This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has not 
> covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is 
> troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar 
> Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The 
> government is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the 
> social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on 
> asking "who is the minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone 
> has any info about the 29th November meeting called by the disability 
> department after the Apex court's anger?
> 
>> On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
>> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled 
>>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>> To:
>>> 
>>> Government of India
>>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>> 
>>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of 
>>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of 
>>> Parliament
>>> 
>>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of 
>>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice 
>>> and Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons 
>>> with Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of 
>>> Parliament.
>>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons 
>>> with Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>> 
>>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons 
>>> with Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st 
>>> October, 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being 
>>> a signatory to the Convention, India has an international obligation 
>>> to comply with the provisions of the Convention.
>>> 
>>> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully 
>>> in conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a 
>>> rights-based legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The 
>>> Bill had been mooted by the Ministry of Social Justice and 
>>> Empowerment after extensive consultation with various stakeholders, 
>>> State Govern

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[akshun mahajan]

Reservation has gone down from 5% to 4% and disability categories has
been increased.
blindness and low vision has been made separate category.


On 12/1/16, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a
> diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2
> years.
> Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution?
> I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements etc
> make me feelvery anxious.
> I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we had
> in 2014?
> All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results.
> Do we have to wait for 2036?
> My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
> Kanchan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the
> RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
> amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news of
> cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
> This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has
> not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is
> troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar
> Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The
> government is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the
> social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on
> asking "who is the minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone
> has any info about the 29th November meeting called by the disability
> department after the Apex court's anger?
>
> On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
>> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled
>>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>> To:
>>>
>>> Government of India
>>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>>
>>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
>>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
>>> Parliament
>>>
>>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
>>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice
>>> and Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons
>>> with Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of
>>> Parliament.
>>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons
>>> with Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>>
>>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons
>>> with Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st
>>> October, 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being
>>> a signatory to the Convention, India has an international obligation
>>> to comply with the provisions of the Convention.
>>>
>>> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully
>>> in conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a
>>> rights-based legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The
>>> Bill had been mooted by the Ministry of Social Justice and
>>> Empowerment after extensive consultation with various stakeholders,
>>> State Governments/UTs and concerned Central Ministries and
>>> Departments. Now

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Kanchan Pamnani]

So are we getting a better law than the bill we had in February 2014 or a 
diluted version? The bill has been systematically diluted over the last 2 
years. 
Are we going to take responsibility for the delay and the dilution? 
I hope I am wrong and we get a better law soon however public statements etc 
make me feelvery anxious. 
I am sure we will be better than in 1996  but are we better than what we had in 
2014?
All the effort from 2009 may only bring some results. 
Do we have to wait for 2036? 
My prayers are for the sector and my fingers are crossed.
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:47
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the 
RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of 
amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the news of 
cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed has not 
covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD which is 
troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this morning's (samachar 
Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon as possible. The government 
is working in haste and in secrecy after the SC admonished the social Justice 
Minister couple of days ago. The court unusually kept on asking "who is the 
minister concerned, name him name him!" and does anyone has any info about the 
29th November meeting called by the disability department after the Apex 
court's anger?

On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled 
>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>> To:
>>
>> Government of India
>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>
>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of 
>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of 
>> Parliament
>>
>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of 
>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice 
>> and Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons 
>> with Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of Parliament.
>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons 
>> with Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>
>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons 
>> with Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st 
>> October, 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being 
>> a signatory to the Convention, India has an international obligation 
>> to comply with the provisions of the Convention.
>>
>> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully 
>> in conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a 
>> rights-based legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The 
>> Bill had been mooted by the Ministry of Social Justice and 
>> Empowerment after extensive consultation with various stakeholders, 
>> State Governments/UTs and concerned Central Ministries and 
>> Departments. Now after another round of consultations and inputs from 
>> the Standing Committee of Parliament, Amendments have been proposed. 
>> This shall ensure enjoyment of rights by the Persons with 
>> Disabilities.
>> As a result, now the salient features of the proposed Bill with 
>> amendments
>> are:
>> i. Responsibility has been cast upon the appropriate governments to 
>> take effective measures to ensure that the persons with disabilities 
>> enjoy their rights equally with others.
>>
>> ii. Disability has been

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[akshun mahajan]

gt;
> xiv. The Bill provides for penalties for offences committed against
> persons with disabilities.
>
> It is expected that the proposed rights based legislation with more
> Rights and Entitlements and strong monitoring agencies at the National
> and State Levels will achieve empowerment and inclusion of Persons
> with Disabilities in the society in a satisfactory manner.
>
>
>
>
> On 12/1/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>> Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving
>> the
>> RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>> I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
>> amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the
>> news of cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
>> This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed
>> has not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD
>> which is troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this
>> morning's (samachar Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon
>> as possible. The government is working in haste and in secrecy after
>> the SC admonished the social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The
>> court unusually kept on asking "who is the minister concerned, name
>> him name him!" and does anyone has any info about the 29th November
>> meeting called by the disability department after the Apex court's
>> anger?
>>
>> On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
>>> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled
>>>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>>>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>> To:
>>>>
>>>> Government of India
>>>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>>>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>>>
>>>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
>>>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
>>>> Parliament
>>>>
>>>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
>>>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice and
>>>> Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons with
>>>> Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of
>>>> Parliament.
>>>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons
>>>> with
>>>> Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>>>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>>>
>>>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons
>>>> with
>>>> Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st
>>>> October,
>>>> 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being a
>>>> signatory
>>>> to
>>>> the Convention, India has an international obligation to comply with
>>>> the
>>>> provisions of the Convention.
>>>>
>>>> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully in
>>>> conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a rights-based
>>>> legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The Bill had been
>>>> mooted
>>>> by the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment after extensive
>>>> consultation with various stakeholders, State Governments/UTs and
>>>> concerned
>>>> Central Ministries and Departments. Now after another round of
>>>> consultations and inputs from the Standing Committee of Parliament,
>>>> Amendments have been proposed. This shall ensure enjoyment of rights by
>>>> the
>>>> Persons with Disabilities.
>>>

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[akshun mahajan]

ng the
> RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
> I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
> amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the
> news of cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
> This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed
> has not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD
> which is troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this
> morning's (samachar Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon
> as possible. The government is working in haste and in secrecy after
> the SC admonished the social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The
> court unusually kept on asking "who is the minister concerned, name
> him name him!" and does anyone has any info about the 29th November
> meeting called by the disability department after the Apex court's
> anger?
>
> On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
>> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled
>>> <nprd...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>> To:
>>>
>>> Government of India
>>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>>
>>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
>>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
>>> Parliament
>>>
>>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
>>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice and
>>> Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons with
>>> Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of Parliament.
>>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons with
>>> Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>>
>>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with
>>> Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st October,
>>> 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being a signatory
>>> to
>>> the Convention, India has an international obligation to comply with the
>>> provisions of the Convention.
>>>
>>> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully in
>>> conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a rights-based
>>> legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The Bill had been
>>> mooted
>>> by the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment after extensive
>>> consultation with various stakeholders, State Governments/UTs and
>>> concerned
>>> Central Ministries and Departments. Now after another round of
>>> consultations and inputs from the Standing Committee of Parliament,
>>> Amendments have been proposed. This shall ensure enjoyment of rights by
>>> the
>>> Persons with Disabilities.
>>> As a result, now the salient features of the proposed Bill with
>>> amendments
>>> are:
>>> i. Responsibility has been cast upon the appropriate governments to take
>>> effective measures to ensure that the persons with disabilities enjoy
>>> their
>>> rights equally with others.
>>>
>>> ii. Disability has been defined based on an evolving and dynamic concept.
>>>
>>> iii. The types of disabilities have been increased from existing 7 to 21
>>> and the Central Government will have the power to add more types of
>>> disabilities. The 21 disabilities are given below:-
>>>
>>> 1. Blindness
>>>
>>> 2. Low-vision
>>>
>>> 3. Leprosy Cured persons
>>>
>>> 4. Hearing Impairment (deaf and hard of hearing)
>>>
>>> 5. Locomotor Disability
>>>
>>> 6. Dwarfism
>>>

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[George Abraham]

Mr Rungta has sent an Email confirming the news of the cabinet approving the 
RPD bill. Perhaps he is in a position to furnish the source!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the
news of cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed
has not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD
which is troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this
morning's (samachar Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon
as possible. The government is working in haste and in secrecy after
the SC admonished the social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The
court unusually kept on asking "who is the minister concerned, name
him name him!" and does anyone has any info about the 29th November
meeting called by the disability department after the Apex court's
anger?

On 12/1/16, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled <nprd...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>> To:
>>
>> Government of India
>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>
>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
>> Parliament
>>
>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice and
>> Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons with
>> Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of Parliament.
>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons with
>> Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>
>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with
>> Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st October,
>> 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being a signatory
>> to
>> the Convention, India has an international obligation to comply with the
>> provisions of the Convention.
>>
>> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully in
>> conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a rights-based
>> legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The Bill had been
>> mooted
>> by the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment after extensive
>> consultation with various stakeholders, State Governments/UTs and
>> concerned
>> Central Ministries and Departments. Now after another round of
>> consultations and inputs from the Standing Committee of Parliament,
>> Amendments have been proposed. This shall ensure enjoyment of rights by
>> the
>> Persons with Disabilities.
>> As a result, now the salient features of the proposed Bill with amendments
>> are:
>> i. Responsibility has been cast upon the appropriate governments to take
>> effective measures to ensure that the persons with disabilities enjoy
>> their
>> rights equally with others.
>>
>> ii. Disability has been defined based on an evolving and dynamic concept.
>>
>> iii. The types of disabilities have been increased from existing 7 to 21
>> and the Central Government will have the power to add more types of
>> disabilities. The 21 disabilities are given below:-
>>
>> 1. Blindness
>>
>> 2. Low-vision
>>
>> 3. Leprosy Cured persons
>>
>> 4. Hearing Impairment (deaf and hard of hearing)
>>
>> 5. Locomotor Disability
>>
>> 6. Dwarfism
>>
>> 7. Intellectual Disability
>>
>> 8. Mental Illness
>>
>> 9. Autism Spectrum Disorder
>>
>> 10. Cerebral Palsy
>>
>> 11. Muscular Dystrophy
>>
>> 12. Chronic Neurological conditions
>>
>> 13. Specific Learning Disabilities
>>
>> 14. Multiple Sclerosis
>>
&

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[avinash shahi]

I've not come across any newspaper which has reported the approval of
amendments to the RPD Bill 2014 by the cabinet. I however heard the
news of cabinet approval on All India Radio this morning at 8 am news.
This means its official. And what is more puzzling that even PTI feed
has not covered PIB's release. Something is being cooked in the DEPWD
which is troubling me.  I'd urge you friends to download this
morning's (samachar Prabhat) news broadcast from AIR's website as soon
as possible. The government is working in haste and in secrecy after
the SC admonished the social Justice Minister couple of days ago. The
court unusually kept on asking "who is the minister concerned, name
him name him!" and does anyone has any info about the 29th November
meeting called by the disability department after the Apex court's
anger?

On 12/1/16, Amar Jain  wrote:
> I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi 
>> wrote:
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled 
>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
>> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>> To:
>>
>> Government of India
>> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
>> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
>>
>> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
>> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
>> Parliament
>>
>> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
>> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice and
>> Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons with
>> Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of Parliament.
>> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons with
>> Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
>> Participation) Act, 1995.
>>
>> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with
>> Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st October,
>> 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being a signatory
>> to
>> the Convention, India has an international obligation to comply with the
>> provisions of the Convention.
>>
>> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully in
>> conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a rights-based
>> legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The Bill had been
>> mooted
>> by the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment after extensive
>> consultation with various stakeholders, State Governments/UTs and
>> concerned
>> Central Ministries and Departments. Now after another round of
>> consultations and inputs from the Standing Committee of Parliament,
>> Amendments have been proposed. This shall ensure enjoyment of rights by
>> the
>> Persons with Disabilities.
>> As a result, now the salient features of the proposed Bill with amendments
>> are:
>> i. Responsibility has been cast upon the appropriate governments to take
>> effective measures to ensure that the persons with disabilities enjoy
>> their
>> rights equally with others.
>>
>> ii. Disability has been defined based on an evolving and dynamic concept.
>>
>> iii. The types of disabilities have been increased from existing 7 to 21
>> and the Central Government will have the power to add more types of
>> disabilities. The 21 disabilities are given below:-
>>
>> 1. Blindness
>>
>> 2. Low-vision
>>
>> 3. Leprosy Cured persons
>>
>> 4. Hearing Impairment (deaf and hard of hearing)
>>
>> 5. Locomotor Disability
>>
>> 6. Dwarfism
>>
>> 7. Intellectual Disability
>>
>> 8. Mental Illness
>>
>> 9. Autism Spectrum Disorder
>>
>> 10. Cerebral Palsy
>>
>> 11. Muscular Dystrophy
>>
>> 12. Chronic Neurological conditions
>>
>> 13. Specific Learning Disabilities
>>
>> 14. Multiple Sclerosis
>>
>> 15. Speech and Language disability
>>
>> 16. Thalassemia
>>
>> 17. Hemophilia
>>
>> 18. Sickle Cell disease
>>
>> 19. Multiple Disabilities
>>
>> 20. Acid Attack victim
>>
>> 21. Parkinson's disease
>>
>> iv. Hence, Speech and Language Disability and Specific Learning Disability
>> have been added for the first time. Acid Attack Victims have been
>> included.
>> New categories within three blood disorders, Thalassemia, Hemophilia and
>> Sickle Cell disease have been added.
>>
>> v. Additional benefits have been provided for persons with benchmark
>> disabilities and those with high support needs.
>>
>> vi. Every child with benchmark disability between the age group of 6 and
>> 18
>> years shall have the right to free education.
>>
>> vii. For strengthening the Prime Minister's Accessible India Campaign,
>> stress on ensuring accessibility in public buildings has to be ensured in
>> a
>> prescribed time-frame.
>>
>> viii. Increase in reservation from 3% to 4% for students with benchmark
>> 

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[Amar Jain]

I could not find any release on this for 30th of Nov.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 01-Dec-2016, at 12:00 PM, avinash shahi  wrote:
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled 
> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
> Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
> To:
> 
> Government of India
> Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
> 30-November-2016 19:38 IST
> 
> Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
> Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
> Parliament
> 
> The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
> Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice and
> Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons with
> Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of Parliament.
> The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons with
> Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
> Participation) Act, 1995.
> 
> India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with
> Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st October,
> 2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being a signatory to
> the Convention, India has an international obligation to comply with the
> provisions of the Convention.
> 
> Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully in
> conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a rights-based
> legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The Bill had been mooted
> by the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment after extensive
> consultation with various stakeholders, State Governments/UTs and concerned
> Central Ministries and Departments. Now after another round of
> consultations and inputs from the Standing Committee of Parliament,
> Amendments have been proposed. This shall ensure enjoyment of rights by the
> Persons with Disabilities.
> As a result, now the salient features of the proposed Bill with amendments
> are:
> i. Responsibility has been cast upon the appropriate governments to take
> effective measures to ensure that the persons with disabilities enjoy their
> rights equally with others.
> 
> ii. Disability has been defined based on an evolving and dynamic concept.
> 
> iii. The types of disabilities have been increased from existing 7 to 21
> and the Central Government will have the power to add more types of
> disabilities. The 21 disabilities are given below:-
> 
> 1. Blindness
> 
> 2. Low-vision
> 
> 3. Leprosy Cured persons
> 
> 4. Hearing Impairment (deaf and hard of hearing)
> 
> 5. Locomotor Disability
> 
> 6. Dwarfism
> 
> 7. Intellectual Disability
> 
> 8. Mental Illness
> 
> 9. Autism Spectrum Disorder
> 
> 10. Cerebral Palsy
> 
> 11. Muscular Dystrophy
> 
> 12. Chronic Neurological conditions
> 
> 13. Specific Learning Disabilities
> 
> 14. Multiple Sclerosis
> 
> 15. Speech and Language disability
> 
> 16. Thalassemia
> 
> 17. Hemophilia
> 
> 18. Sickle Cell disease
> 
> 19. Multiple Disabilities
> 
> 20. Acid Attack victim
> 
> 21. Parkinson's disease
> 
> iv. Hence, Speech and Language Disability and Specific Learning Disability
> have been added for the first time. Acid Attack Victims have been included.
> New categories within three blood disorders, Thalassemia, Hemophilia and
> Sickle Cell disease have been added.
> 
> v. Additional benefits have been provided for persons with benchmark
> disabilities and those with high support needs.
> 
> vi. Every child with benchmark disability between the age group of 6 and 18
> years shall have the right to free education.
> 
> vii. For strengthening the Prime Minister's Accessible India Campaign,
> stress on ensuring accessibility in public buildings has to be ensured in a
> prescribed time-frame.
> 
> viii. Increase in reservation from 3% to 4% for students with benchmark
> disabilities in higher educational institutions has been proposed.
> 
> ix. It has been proposed to Increase in reservation from 3% to 4% in
> Government jobs for certain persons or class of persons with benchmark
> disability.
> 
> x. The Bill provides for grant of guardianship by District Court under
> which there will be joint decision – making between the guardian and the
> persons with disabilities.
> 
> xi. Broad based Central & State Advisory Boards on Disability have been
> proposed to be set up as policy making bodies.
> 
> xii. Strengthening of the Office of Chief Commissioner of Persons with
> Disabilities and State Commissioners of Disabilities has been proposed,
> which will act as regulatory bodies and Grievance Redressal agencies and
> also monitor implementation of the Act.
> 
> xiii. National Fund has been proposed to be created to provide financial
> support to the persons with disabilities.
> 
> xiv. The Bill provides for penalties for offences committed against persons

[AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[avinash shahi]

-- Forwarded message --
From: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled 
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:53:21 +0530
Subject: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
To:

Government of India
Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
30-November-2016 19:38 IST

Cabinet Approves Proposal to Make Important Changes in The Rights of
Persons With Disabilities Bill, 2014 During Ongoing Winter Session Of
Parliament

The Cabinet approved the proposal of the Department of Empowerment of
Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan), Ministry of Social Justice and
Empowerment to make important changes in the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities Bill, 2014 during the ongoing winter Session of Parliament.
The new Bill with amendments proposes to repeal the existing Persons with
Disabilities (Equal opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
Participation) Act, 1995.

India signed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities (UNCRPD) and subsequently ratified the same on 1st October,
2007. The Convention came into effect on 3rd May 2008. Being a signatory to
the Convention, India has an international obligation to comply with the
provisions of the Convention.

Keeping in view the fact that the existing Act of 1995 is not fully in
conformity with the UNCRPD, a need has been felt to have a rights-based
legislation with a strong institutional mechanism. The Bill had been mooted
by the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment after extensive
consultation with various stakeholders, State Governments/UTs and concerned
Central Ministries and Departments. Now after another round of
consultations and inputs from the Standing Committee of Parliament,
Amendments have been proposed. This shall ensure enjoyment of rights by the
Persons with Disabilities.
As a result, now the salient features of the proposed Bill with amendments
are:
i. Responsibility has been cast upon the appropriate governments to take
effective measures to ensure that the persons with disabilities enjoy their
rights equally with others.

ii. Disability has been defined based on an evolving and dynamic concept.

iii. The types of disabilities have been increased from existing 7 to 21
and the Central Government will have the power to add more types of
disabilities. The 21 disabilities are given below:-

1. Blindness

2. Low-vision

3. Leprosy Cured persons

4. Hearing Impairment (deaf and hard of hearing)

5. Locomotor Disability

6. Dwarfism

7. Intellectual Disability

8. Mental Illness

9. Autism Spectrum Disorder

10. Cerebral Palsy

11. Muscular Dystrophy

12. Chronic Neurological conditions

13. Specific Learning Disabilities

14. Multiple Sclerosis

15. Speech and Language disability

16. Thalassemia

17. Hemophilia

18. Sickle Cell disease

19. Multiple Disabilities

20. Acid Attack victim

21. Parkinson's disease

iv. Hence, Speech and Language Disability and Specific Learning Disability
have been added for the first time. Acid Attack Victims have been included.
New categories within three blood disorders, Thalassemia, Hemophilia and
Sickle Cell disease have been added.

v. Additional benefits have been provided for persons with benchmark
disabilities and those with high support needs.

vi. Every child with benchmark disability between the age group of 6 and 18
years shall have the right to free education.

vii. For strengthening the Prime Minister's Accessible India Campaign,
stress on ensuring accessibility in public buildings has to be ensured in a
prescribed time-frame.

viii. Increase in reservation from 3% to 4% for students with benchmark
disabilities in higher educational institutions has been proposed.

ix. It has been proposed to Increase in reservation from 3% to 4% in
Government jobs for certain persons or class of persons with benchmark
disability.

x. The Bill provides for grant of guardianship by District Court under
which there will be joint decision – making between the guardian and the
persons with disabilities.

xi. Broad based Central & State Advisory Boards on Disability have been
proposed to be set up as policy making bodies.

xii. Strengthening of the Office of Chief Commissioner of Persons with
Disabilities and State Commissioners of Disabilities has been proposed,
which will act as regulatory bodies and Grievance Redressal agencies and
also monitor implementation of the Act.

xiii. National Fund has been proposed to be created to provide financial
support to the persons with disabilities.

xiv. The Bill provides for penalties for offences committed against persons
with disabilities.

It is expected that the proposed rights based legislation with more Rights
and Entitlements and strong monitoring agencies at the National and State
Levels will achieve empowerment and inclusion of Persons with Disabilities
in the society in a satisfactory manner.



-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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