Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language
hi Yamuna, there are huge differences when you apply the same sensible logic to Indian languages and the european ones. these machines usually use dictionary methods for translating the text rather than the contextual linguistic clues. the machines are well trained in the european languages but, the same is not true when it comes to Indian languages. imagine he has to translate 200 pages and proof read it all in whatever the short period he is given. isn't it a horific assignment? I refrain from talking about it any further in this list as because it leads away from the discussions related to blindness or community in general. I am interested however if personally replied. On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 5:06 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) < ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > If you cannot afford a human translator then these App translators can do > quite a reasonable job as I have seen. > Personally I don’t agree that they are “meaningless and horrific”. If you > write the original text using colloquial slang language or is full of local > dialect and phrases, naturally the formal language translations will > struggle. That’s the exception. > > I’ve had many occasions to communicate with a French guy where he would > write to me by translating from his French to English, and I from English > to French, and we managed to have important discussions that way. You of > course cannot use idiomatic expressions and such things, expecting them to > translate to the intended meanings. Naturally you must respect the fact > that you are using machine translation and follow sensible sentence > construction in the source language while composing your text. Doing this > can yield excellent results. > > > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > Yamuna Jivana Dasa > > > > *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto: > accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *anirudh rao > *Sent:* Saturday, November 11, 2023 1:18 PM > *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > *Subject:* Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf > document to hindi language > > > > absolutely meaningless and horrific assignment > > What is the meaning of converting a document from English to Hindi? > > Is Hindi a file extension to convert? > > It is the job of a translator. > > translating 200 pages of a document would take a considerable amount of > time and machine translation is usually faulty. > > even if you take the help of machine translation like Bard or google > translate, you need to spend considerable amount of time to proof-read it. > > > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 4:31 PM Bhawana wrote: > > Dear sir, > You can use Insta reader In your mobile. > You can do easily translate your PDF English document in hindi. > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto: > accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:43 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document > to hindi language > > Dear members, I have been assigned an office work to convert an > english document comprising 200 pages into hindi language. This > document is in searchable pdf format and can be easily read with the > help of jaws. However I am clueless how could this task be > accomplished translating the document to hindi language. The task is > first of all convert or translate the document into hindi language and > then get its print copy. > I don't know the hindi typing at all, however my task would be > complete if i am able to convert the document into hindi language, > rest work may be taken care by other colleagues. Therefore kindly > advise me how to do this task. > I have the following tools: > Windows PC and laptop with jaws 2022 and hindi tts. > Android mobile phone with Envision AI, EYE D pro and few other apps > those can OCR hindi (but not translate) > I don't have any hindi OCR software in my windows based PC or laptop > > Though here the issue is not doing hindi OCR, but doing translation > from english to hindi primarily. Kindly help > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivin
RE: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language
Hi, If you cannot afford a human translator then these App translators can do quite a reasonable job as I have seen. Personally I don’t agree that they are “meaningless and horrific”. If you write the original text using colloquial slang language or is full of local dialect and phrases, naturally the formal language translations will struggle. That’s the exception. I’ve had many occasions to communicate with a French guy where he would write to me by translating from his French to English, and I from English to French, and we managed to have important discussions that way. You of course cannot use idiomatic expressions and such things, expecting them to translate to the intended meanings. Naturally you must respect the fact that you are using machine translation and follow sensible sentence construction in the source language while composing your text. Doing this can yield excellent results. Just my 2 cents. Yamuna Jivana Dasa From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of anirudh rao Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 1:18 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language absolutely meaningless and horrific assignment What is the meaning of converting a document from English to Hindi? Is Hindi a file extension to convert? It is the job of a translator. translating 200 pages of a document would take a considerable amount of time and machine translation is usually faulty. even if you take the help of machine translation like Bard or google translate, you need to spend considerable amount of time to proof-read it. On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 4:31 PM Bhawana mailto:bhavana...@gmail.com> > wrote: Dear sir, You can use Insta reader In your mobile. You can do easily translate your PDF English document in hindi. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> ] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:43 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Subject: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language Dear members, I have been assigned an office work to convert an english document comprising 200 pages into hindi language. This document is in searchable pdf format and can be easily read with the help of jaws. However I am clueless how could this task be accomplished translating the document to hindi language. The task is first of all convert or translate the document into hindi language and then get its print copy. I don't know the hindi typing at all, however my task would be complete if i am able to convert the document into hindi language, rest work may be taken care by other colleagues. Therefore kindly advise me how to do this task. I have the following tools: Windows PC and laptop with jaws 2022 and hindi tts. Android mobile phone with Envision AI, EYE D pro and few other apps those can OCR hindi (but not translate) I don't have any hindi OCR software in my windows based PC or laptop Though here the issue is not doing hindi OCR, but doing translation from english to hindi primarily. Kindly help -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia%2bunsubscr...@accessindia.org.in> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMudc6zj1rnsZ2uh31SPe81_ONCHZ88SEh0vY7CLK4Ea4GFmyw%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia%2bunsubscr...@accessindia.org.in> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d
Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language
absolutely meaningless and horrific assignment What is the meaning of converting a document from English to Hindi? Is Hindi a file extension to convert? It is the job of a translator. translating 200 pages of a document would take a considerable amount of time and machine translation is usually faulty. even if you take the help of machine translation like Bard or google translate, you need to spend considerable amount of time to proof-read it. On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 4:31 PM Bhawana wrote: > Dear sir, > You can use Insta reader In your mobile. > You can do easily translate your PDF English document in hindi. > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto: > accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:43 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document > to hindi language > > Dear members, I have been assigned an office work to convert an > english document comprising 200 pages into hindi language. This > document is in searchable pdf format and can be easily read with the > help of jaws. However I am clueless how could this task be > accomplished translating the document to hindi language. The task is > first of all convert or translate the document into hindi language and > then get its print copy. > I don't know the hindi typing at all, however my task would be > complete if i am able to convert the document into hindi language, > rest work may be taken care by other colleagues. Therefore kindly > advise me how to do this task. > I have the following tools: > Windows PC and laptop with jaws 2022 and hindi tts. > Android mobile phone with Envision AI, EYE D pro and few other apps > those can OCR hindi (but not translate) > I don't have any hindi OCR software in my windows based PC or laptop > > Though here the issue is not doing hindi OCR, but doing translation > from english to hindi primarily. Kindly help > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMudc6zj1rnsZ2uh31SPe81_ONCHZ88SEh0vY7CLK4Ea4GFmyw%40mail.gmail.com > . > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/000501da13c5%2443a9d6a0%24cafd83e0%24%40gmail.com > . > -- "every human is disabled because, none has got the wings to fly". Anirudh Rao your intellectual comrade. call/whatsapp me at 8277012082 join on Skype: anirudhrao3 if you just wish to be a facebook friend: click https://m.facebook.com/anirudh.rao.7731/about?lst=15148125152%3A15148125152%3A1563341090=17 and send a request. Thank you Anirudh Rao. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAF6avGhVoaHb8q_wLm-o1j6roTiBQujfi3YNaW5CUon6dToaUA%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language
Dear sir, You can use Insta reader In your mobile. You can do easily translate your PDF English document in hindi. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:43 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language Dear members, I have been assigned an office work to convert an english document comprising 200 pages into hindi language. This document is in searchable pdf format and can be easily read with the help of jaws. However I am clueless how could this task be accomplished translating the document to hindi language. The task is first of all convert or translate the document into hindi language and then get its print copy. I don't know the hindi typing at all, however my task would be complete if i am able to convert the document into hindi language, rest work may be taken care by other colleagues. Therefore kindly advise me how to do this task. I have the following tools: Windows PC and laptop with jaws 2022 and hindi tts. Android mobile phone with Envision AI, EYE D pro and few other apps those can OCR hindi (but not translate) I don't have any hindi OCR software in my windows based PC or laptop Though here the issue is not doing hindi OCR, but doing translation from english to hindi primarily. Kindly help -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMudc6zj1rnsZ2uh31SPe81_ONCHZ88SEh0vY7CLK4Ea4GFmyw%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/000501da13c5%2443a9d6a0%24cafd83e0%24%40gmail.com.
Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language
That is the job of translators. Unless you are a translator, you are not supposed to be assigned such tasks. You can use google translator for this purpose. On 8/30/23, Aravind R wrote: > google translate is helpful to translators to do instant translation > from which, they can do editing and do changes. for typing, people can > use hindi phonetic keyboard by adding language in windows/settings. > various other keyboards are there and we can choose based on our > convenience. > > On 30/08/2023, Mohib Anwar Rafay wrote: >> Dear members, I have been assigned an office work to convert an >> english document comprising 200 pages into hindi language. This >> document is in searchable pdf format and can be easily read with the >> help of jaws. However I am clueless how could this task be >> accomplished translating the document to hindi language. The task is >> first of all convert or translate the document into hindi language and >> then get its print copy. >> I don't know the hindi typing at all, however my task would be >> complete if i am able to convert the document into hindi language, >> rest work may be taken care by other colleagues. Therefore kindly >> advise me how to do this task. >> I have the following tools: >> Windows PC and laptop with jaws 2022 and hindi tts. >> Android mobile phone with Envision AI, EYE D pro and few other apps >> those can OCR hindi (but not translate) >> I don't have any hindi OCR software in my windows based PC or laptop >> >> Though here the issue is not doing hindi OCR, but doing translation >> from english to hindi primarily. Kindly help >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMudc6zj1rnsZ2uh31SPe81_ONCHZ88SEh0vY7CLK4Ea4GFmyw%40mail.gmail.com. >> > > > -- > > > -- > -- > nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. > > r. aravind, > > manager > Department of sales > bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai. > mobile no: +91 9940369593, > email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. > aravind.rajend...@bankofbaroda.co.in. > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFZpANA9fLhppV69BZnQaE771hJkZ0dVGA9bZVzWQ6U5H0YqvA%40mail.gmail.com. > -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAJEnF8PfNtf-Nb_hP0s0Kv%3DQEyOd%3DG0K5wgQvdYTDaguRj8kHA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language
google translate is helpful to translators to do instant translation from which, they can do editing and do changes. for typing, people can use hindi phonetic keyboard by adding language in windows/settings. various other keyboards are there and we can choose based on our convenience. On 30/08/2023, Mohib Anwar Rafay wrote: > Dear members, I have been assigned an office work to convert an > english document comprising 200 pages into hindi language. This > document is in searchable pdf format and can be easily read with the > help of jaws. However I am clueless how could this task be > accomplished translating the document to hindi language. The task is > first of all convert or translate the document into hindi language and > then get its print copy. > I don't know the hindi typing at all, however my task would be > complete if i am able to convert the document into hindi language, > rest work may be taken care by other colleagues. Therefore kindly > advise me how to do this task. > I have the following tools: > Windows PC and laptop with jaws 2022 and hindi tts. > Android mobile phone with Envision AI, EYE D pro and few other apps > those can OCR hindi (but not translate) > I don't have any hindi OCR software in my windows based PC or laptop > > Though here the issue is not doing hindi OCR, but doing translation > from english to hindi primarily. Kindly help > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMudc6zj1rnsZ2uh31SPe81_ONCHZ88SEh0vY7CLK4Ea4GFmyw%40mail.gmail.com. > -- -- -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, manager Department of sales bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai. mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. aravind.rajend...@bankofbaroda.co.in. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFZpANA9fLhppV69BZnQaE771hJkZ0dVGA9bZVzWQ6U5H0YqvA%40mail.gmail.com.
