RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Craig Cerino
As far as SNMP goes - -I really like What'sUp Gold - -Unfortunately when
the did the newest version release - the Went to What's Up Pro -- and it
if FAR inferior to their previous product.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out
an alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
800-388-0008 Watts 
952-896-9899 Fax 
612-804-8769 Cell 
952-841-3327 Direct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Be excellent to each other 
---End of Line--- 



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the
game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
maintaining
the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're
aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox

at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in
Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

  

Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:



And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item 
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead

of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily

anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and 
tells daily health status of my server.

Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours 
[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto 
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in the 
event logs.

It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backup 
ran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.

It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database and 
builds the email to be sent internally or externally.

What it does now, is only pulls data from the one box, the SBS box. 
but I
can go into 

RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
http://www.serversalive.com/

Works for us and the price is right!

Mike Thommes

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out
an alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
800-388-0008 Watts 
952-896-9899 Fax 
612-804-8769 Cell 
952-841-3327 Direct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Be excellent to each other 
---End of Line--- 



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the
game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
maintaining
the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're
aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox

at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in
Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

  

Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:



And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item 
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead

of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily

anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and 
tells daily health status of my server.

Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours 
[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto 
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in the 
event logs.

It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backup 
ran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.

It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database and 
builds the email to be sent internally or externally.

What it does now, is only pulls data from the one box, the SBS box. 
but I
can go into health mon and build my own monitors and grab those event

logs from other machines [need to so that just 

RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Peter Johnson
Are you simply looking for server going down or service availability?
I.E. do want something at a lower, or higher level, than just a simple
ping/SNMP status check? Have a look, based on budget, at NetIQ
AppManager or MS MOM 2005. I have a preference for AM myself.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Cerino
Sent: 17 October 2005 15:39
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

As far as SNMP goes - -I really like What'sUp Gold - -Unfortunately when
the did the newest version release - the Went to What's Up Pro -- and it
if FAR inferior to their previous product.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out
an alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
800-388-0008 Watts 
952-896-9899 Fax 
612-804-8769 Cell 
952-841-3327 Direct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Be excellent to each other 
---End of Line--- 



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the
game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
maintaining
the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're
aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox

at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in
Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

  

Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:



And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item 
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead

of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily

anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and 
tells daily health status of my server.

Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours 
[just 

RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread DeStefano, Dan

Have you looked at MOM? http://www.microsoft.com/mom/default.mspx


Dan



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out
an alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.
Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435

952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the
game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
maintaining
the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're
aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox

at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in
Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

 

Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:

   

And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services,
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead

of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily

anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and
tells daily health status of my server.

Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours
[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in the
event logs.

It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backup
ran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.

It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database and
builds the email to be sent internally or externally.

What it does now, is only pulls data from the one box, the SBS box.
but I
can go into health mon and build my own monitors and grab those event

logs from other machines [need to so that just haven't gotten around
to it].

Right now if someone 

Re: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread mike kline
We use big brother for monitoring and paging http://www.bb4.org/ 

I haven't used this one but the free version of power admin may do the trick for you 
http://www.poweradmin.com/ServerMonitor/Free.asp


I've used uptime in the past as well and have had success with it. You can download it from here

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/management/uptime/default.asp

Thanks
Mike
On 10/17/05, Thommes, Michael M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.serversalive.com/Works for us and the price is right!
Mike Thommes-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
] On Behalf Of John ParkerSent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:34 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Server MonitoringHello all...
We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send outan alert when a server goes down.Anyone have a suggestion?Does not have to be too complicated.Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.
Thank you in advance.John Parker, MCSEIS Admin.Senior Technical SpecialistAlpha Display Systems.Alpha Video7711 Computer Ave.Edina, MN. 55435952-896-9898 Local800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax612-804-8769 Cell952-841-3327 Direct[EMAIL PROTECTED]Be excellent to each other---End of LineOriginal Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get tooannoying. :-)Rick Kingslan wrote:
Susan,Really - I know you too well.You're not going to lurk.Get in thegame.It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the SmallBusiness arena.And, if it broadens the message of managing and
maintainingthe systems - it's good for all.Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurkingYou'rearen't!You're too valuable to do so...:o)Rick [msft]
--Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,CPAaka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk
The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inboxat 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard. I can handle a daily emailthey can't.At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in
Linuxwere discussed.Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html
Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases(ACID):http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/Intrustion detection -
Snort.org:http://www.snort.org/Monitoring - Nagios: Home:http://www.nagios.org/
Traffic probe - ntop - network top:http://www.ntop.org/head.htmlSusan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:
Yup information overload 'is' a problem.And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the servertrying to tell me?I'm still a fan of 
www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.Rick Kingslan wrote:And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.However, when the
scale grows, so do the requirements.IN the Medium to Enterprisespace, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series ofsystems pumping this type of information into paging and making
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services,etc.Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.If it _IS_the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.It's just that insteadof getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin tocreate a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagineRick [msft]
--Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of SusanBradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurkingIn SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it dailyanyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and
tells daily health status of my server.Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in theevent logs.It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backupran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.
It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database andbuilds the 

RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread John Parker



Thank 
you all for your suggestions.I definitely have some homework to do for 
now.

Thank 
you again...


John Parker, MCSEIS Admin.Senior Technical 
SpecialistAlpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video7711 Computer 
Ave.Edina, MN. 55435952-896-9898 Local800-388-0008 
Watts952-896-9899 Fax612-804-8769 Cell952-841-3327 
Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED]"Be excellent to each other"---End of 
Line--- 

  -Original Message-From: mike kline 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:54 
  AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: 
  [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring
  We use big brother for monitoring and paging http://www.bb4.org/ 
  
  I haven't used this one but the free version of power admin may do the 
  trick for you 
  http://www.poweradmin.com/ServerMonitor/Free.asp
  
  
  I've used uptime in the past as well and have had success with it. 
  You can download it from here
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/management/uptime/default.asp
  
  Thanks
  Mike
  On 10/17/05, Thommes, 
  Michael M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  http://www.serversalive.com/Works 
for us and the price is right! Mike Thommes-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
] On Behalf Of John ParkerSent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:34 
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: 
[ActiveDir] Server MonitoringHello all...We are searching 
for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send outan alert when a 
server goes down.Anyone have a suggestion?Does not have 
to be too complicated.Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked. 
Thank you in advance.John Parker, MCSEIS 
Admin.Senior Technical SpecialistAlpha Display Systems.Alpha 
Video7711 Computer Ave.Edina, MN. 55435952-896-9898 
Local800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax612-804-8769 
Cell952-841-3327 Direct[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Be excellent to 
each other"---End of LineOriginal Message- 
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: 
Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.I give carte 
blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get 
tooannoying. :-)Rick Kingslan wrote: 
Susan,Really - I know you too 
well.You're not going to lurk.Get in 
thegame.It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say 
from the SmallBusiness arena.And, if it broadens the 
message of managing and maintainingthe systems - it's good for 
all.Just please - stop convincing yourself you're 
lurkingYou'rearen't!You're too valuable to do 
so...:o)Rick [msft] 
--Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or 
warranties ...-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,CPAaka Ebitz - SBS Rocks 
[MVP]Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: 
Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.sorry .. 
I know...I know...lurk..lurkThe consultant crowd who 
can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inboxat 6 a.m have 
asked for a dashboard. I can handle a daily 
emailthey can't.At a NTuser group meeting I was 
at ...some of the dashboard tools in Linuxwere 
discussed.Nagios in particular was one they used for 
monitoring.Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic 
Grapher:http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html 
Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for 
Intrusion Databases(ACID):http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/Intrustion 
detection - Snort.org:http://www.snort.org/Monitoring 
- Nagios: Home:http://www.nagios.org/ 
Traffic probe - ntop - network top:http://www.ntop.org/head.htmlSusan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] 
wrote:Yup information overload 'is' a 
problem.And then after the scale its... okay what 
the heck is the servertrying to tell 
me?I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click 
here.Rick Kingslan 
wrote:And, as you know 
that does work well in SBSland.However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.IN the 
Medium to Enterprisespace, the idea is more along the lines 
of a system or series ofsystems pumping this type of 
information into paging and making intelligent decisions 
based on the audit, event, alerts, 
services,etc.Which, is right 
where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.If it 
_IS_the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger 
overall item such as HP OpenView - that data is 
available.It's just that insteadof getting 
an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin tocreate 
a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of 
information.Scale makes the problem much 
tougher, as I'm sure you can imagineRick 

RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

2005-10-17 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
Hi Steven/Freddy/Douglas,
   This time the server is a Compaq, running with an Intel(R) PRO/1000
XF Server Adapter, no DRAC-type cards, RAID-controller is builtin.  Some
Googling did bring up some hits regarding Exchange and I wonder what
kind of communication breakdown happens between a GC that wants to
shutdown and an Exchange client (ie, Outlook) that is currently using
this GC for GAL information.  Maybe our AD/Exchange experts can throw
some light on this.

Mike Thommes

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Presley, Steven
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:32 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

Well you are definitely not alone.  Something like this just happened to
me while patching my Exchange clusters (only happened to 1 out of 18, so
its pretty rare).  After patching and telling the passive node to reboot
it was completely inaccessible even after 15 minutes (normally it does
not take this long to reboot).  I could not ping or TS into the box.
iLO was my life saver though.  Connected with iLO and no hung services,
nothing funny in the event log...just was not network accessible (even
on the private network with its partner node).  Had to reboot it via iLO
(using the standard start\shutdown procedure..no cold boot required) and
it eventually went down and came back up happy.  I hope there is not
some gremlin in the recent round of patches that is going to stick its
head out when the clock strikes midnight.

Best regards,
Steven

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes,
Michael M.
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:56 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

Hi Susan,
 Thanks for the response.  No UPS issues.  Checked the services
remotely and didn't find anything unusual.  The DC did finally reboot on
its own shortly after I sent out my first message - about 2 hours after
the original patching and message saying it wanted to reboot and I
clicked OK.  The event logs showed nothing of any consequence, just a
big (2 hour) gap in the system event log entries (between the entry
saying it initiated shutdown and the entry saying the system was coming
back up).   The security log showed no gaps at all.  Am I the only one
that sees this kind of behavior on W2K3/SP1 servers?  I normally don't
use the /console switch when I TS in (eg, mstsc.exe /console).  I
wonder if that could speed the process up.
 
Mike Thommes



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Susan Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sat 10/15/2005 3:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC



APC UPS's and you don't have the latest ver on there?
HP with a UPS?

Can you get into services and see if something is 'stopping'?

Got any ILO ability there [or suitable other remote techniques]?

Thommes, Michael M. wrote:

So I have remotely (TS connection) applied the latest Windows patches 
to one of my DCs.  Patches went on fine.  Said it needed to reboot.  I 
clicked Restart.  And two hours later, it still has not rebooted, but

it did terminate the TS session.  I have tried to kick it via a 
shutdown /f /r command from another DC.  Still no luck.  Issue same 
command remotely with the big Kahuna account, and it says a shutdown is

in progress.  It appears to still be serving up clients, e.g., no 
discernable ill effects.  I have seen this periodically in the past 
with other servers.  Anyone have any comments/thoughts are this 
irritating, weekend sigh activity?  TIA!

Mike Thommes
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RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

2005-10-17 Thread Harding, Devon
Could I add multiple reg key changes to this vbs?  I would have to
define a new sPath at the end right?

-Devon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge de
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 5:51 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Hi,
 
Try the following:
 
Cheers,
jorge
 
'http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wmisdk
/wmi/enumvalues_method_in_class_stdregprov.asp
 
###
Const HKCU = H8001
Set
oReg=GetObject(winmgmts:{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\.\root\defau
lt:StdRegProv)
sPath = Software\IXOS
On Error Resume Next
sKeyExist = False
oReg.EnumKey HKCU, sPath, arrSubKeys
For Each sSubKey In arrSubKeys
 If UCase(sSubKey) = IXOS_ARCHIVE Then
  sKeyExist = True
  Exit For
 End If
Next
Set sSubKey = Nothing
Set arrSubKeys = Nothing
If sKeyExist = True Then
 sPath = Software\IXOS\IXOS_ARCHIVE\Viewer\Printing
 On Error Resume Next
 oReg.EnumKey HKCU, sPath, arrSubKeys
 sKeyExist = False
 For Each sSubKey In arrSubKeys
  If UCase(sSubKey) = FAX Then
   sKeyExist = True
   Exit For
  End If
 Next
 Set sSubKey = Nothing
 Set arrSubKeys = Nothing
 If sKeyExist = False Then
  oReg.CreateKey HKCU, sPath  \FAX
  oReg.SetDWORDValue HKCU, sPath  \FAX, PaperSize, 1
 Else
  On Error Resume Next
  oReg.EnumValue HKCU, sPath, arrValueNames, arrValueTypes
  sValueExist = False
  For Each sValue In arrValueNames
   If sValue = PaperSize Then
sValueExist = True
Exit For
   End If
  Next
  Set sValue = Nothing
  Set arrValueNames = Nothing
  Set arrValueTypes = Nothing
 
  If sValueExist = True Then
   oReg.GetDWORDValue HKCU, sPath  \FAX, PaperSize, MYValueData
   If MYValueData  1 Then
oReg.SetDWORDValue HKCU, sPath  \FAX, PaperSize, 1
   End If
  Else
   oReg.SetDWORDValue HKCU, sPath  \FAX, PaperSize, 1
  End If
 End If
End If
###



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Harding, Devon
Sent: Fri 10/14/2005 7:48 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS



I'm having a tough time converting this kix script to ..vbs.  Any Ideas?

 

; This change will fix an IXOS problem where the default paper size is
A4 instead of Letter

If KeyExist(HKCU\Software\IXOS\IXOS_ARCHIVE) = 1

If
KeyExist(HKCU\Software\IXOS\IXOS_ARCHIVE\Viewer\Printing\FAX) = 0

 
AddKey(HKCU\Software\IXOS\IXOS_ARCHIVE\Viewer\Printing\FAX)

EndIf

If
ReadValue(HKCU\Software\IXOS\IXOS_ARCHIVE\Viewer\Printing\FAX,PaperSi
ze)  1

 
WriteValue(HKCU\Software\IXOS\IXOS_ARCHIVE\Viewer\Printing\FAX,PaperS
ize,1,reg_dword)

EndIf

EndIf

 

Devon Harding

Windows Systems Engineer

Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469

 



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RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)

2005-10-17 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Robbie kills me...

:-) 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:40 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)

Joe, I'm not sure what you've been smoking lately, but it must be good.
A few clarifications

We had more reviewers for AD3e than any other book I've done recently.
People were asking us to review the book so we never had a problem
finding enough reviewers.  Rick, don't take offense.

The book is going to be released the last day of December and will be in
stores in January.  Originally they said it was going to be in stores by
December, but apparently that isn't the case now.

Lastly, they are expecting to sell quite a bit more than 2000 copies.
The first sell-in may be more than 2000 copies.  O'Reilly wouldn't have
done this book (much less expedite it) if they thought they'd sell only
2000 copies.  They intend to do some special promotions with this book
and hopefully it will have a significant store presence (ie, a few
copies in most stores.)  The 100ft ocean liner is still out of the
question, but you should have no problem purchasing a used hole-free
10ft jon boat with one oar off ebay.

Regards,
Robbie Allen
http://www.rallenhome.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 7:36 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)

Hey I needed to maintain a certain quality 

Did you send something to Robbie to say you wanted to review it? In the
end we were begging for reviewers, I even took Dean as a reviewer and
you know the edge I had to be on for that He kept wanting to spell
words wrong.
Eventually I just took out all references to the words color, humor, and
other or words.

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 7:31 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)

joe said: Again, the reviewers did a fantastic job.

Of which, you will all notice when the book comes out, I am _NOT_ one of
those reviewers.

joe said: They kept me honest

Which is one of the reason _WHY_ I was not one of those reviewers

Rick

P.S.  Hey, joe  :op

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:10 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)

Not out yet, I am expecting Mid November or Early December. I sent an
email to see if I can find out. 

The book is NOT written in my voice, I tried as best as possible to
maintain the voice that was there. I simply revised it though I did add
a Chapter on ADAM and a chapter on some basic Exchange/AD Scripting. If
you have the first or second edition I think you will find this edition
worthy of picking up even if you don't have Windows Server 2003 SP1 or
R2. I tried fleshing out and changing anything I didn't feel was
right. Also the reviewers all did a bangup job finding things I
missed. I admit I didn't sleep much in August or September. Tony may
have noticed a lull in the list volume, me working on that book saved at
least 2 bazillion helpless bits from being sacrificed.

I learned that revising a book may actually be harder than writing a
book from scratch and you get paid less. Well maybe it is depending on
if you know what you want to write about. With revising you can't just
write, you have to read, reread, write, reread, write, reread, tweak,
reread. When you change the flow and feel and voice it is like hitting a
brick wall when reading. I am sure I didn't get rid of all of the bricks
but I certainly tried to knock the walls down to a point where you can
step over them without too much trouble. Anyway, I spent less time
writing the ADAM chapter than I spent updating the security chapter. I
know now that I probably should have just rewritten from scratch and it
would have gone faster. Oh well, live and learn or don't live long.

Again, the reviewers did a fantastic job. They kept me honest when I
tried to skip over some stuff when I got tired and I thank them
profusely. I tried to do them justice in the small space provided to me
for acknowledgements.
Those are the things people tend not to look at at the front of the
book. I do ask that if you pick up the book, you do look. Those, folks,
deserve,
the: attention.


  joe
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RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Brian Desmond
Nagios does the trick (free too) - www.nagios.org. MOM is another one
(www.microsoft.com). 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
c - 312.731.3132
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out an
alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
800-388-0008 Watts 
952-896-9899 Fax 
612-804-8769 Cell 
952-841-3327 Direct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Be excellent to each other 
---End of Line--- 



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
maintaining
the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
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Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox 
at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

  

Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:



And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item 
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead 
of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily 
anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and 
tells daily health status of my server.

Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours 
[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto 
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in the 
event logs.

It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backup 
ran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.

It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database and 
builds the email to be sent internally or externally.

What it does now, is only pulls data from the one box, the SBS box. 
but I
can go into health mon and build my own monitors 

[ActiveDir] NDTS.DIT sizes

2005-10-17 Thread Mike Hogenauer








Odd question 



I have 8 different
DCs in a few sites; replication seems to be working great, all servers
windows 2003 ENT. All servers have plenty of disk space. 



When I look at the
actual size of my ntds.dit file, its relatively the same on all DCs
except for one which is 30 MB larger than the others and the last date modified
is 8/9/05, this server holds no roles either. 

Does this mean
that Im having FRS problems on this server? 



Thanks in
advance, 

Mike 










Re: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
In the SBS consultant space we see more of  www.levelplatforms.com and 
hyblue.com than MOM...


Brian Desmond wrote:


Nagios does the trick (free too) - www.nagios.org. MOM is another one
(www.microsoft.com). 


Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out an
alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
800-388-0008 Watts 
952-896-9899 Fax 
612-804-8769 Cell 
952-841-3327 Direct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Be excellent to each other 
---End of Line--- 




-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)


Rick Kingslan wrote:

 


Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
   


maintaining
 


the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
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Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox 
at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.


At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:



   


Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?


I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:

  

 

And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.


Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item 
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead 
of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.


Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily 
anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and 
tells daily health status of my server.


Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours 
[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto 
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in the 
event logs.


It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backup 
ran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.


It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database and 
builds the email to be sent 

Re: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Remote administration, IT infrastructure management, IT management 
software:

http://www.kaseya.com/

Forgot one more.

Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

In the SBS consultant space we see more of  www.levelplatforms.com and 
hyblue.com than MOM...


Brian Desmond wrote:


Nagios does the trick (free too) - www.nagios.org. MOM is another one
(www.microsoft.com).
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send 
out an

alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display 
Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435
952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 
Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each 
other ---End of Line---



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)


Rick Kingslan wrote:

 


Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the 
game.

It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
  


maintaining
 


the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're 
aren't!

You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA

aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their 
inbox at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily 
email they can't.


At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in 
Linux

were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:



  


Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?


I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:

 


And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when 
the scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to 
Enterprise space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or 
series of systems pumping this type of information into paging and 
making intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, 
services, etc.


Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall 
item such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that 
instead of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just 
begin to create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) 
MOM collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.


Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it 
daily anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event 
logs and tells daily health status of my server.


Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 
hours [just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if 
auto services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors 
in the event logs.


It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if 

RE: [ActiveDir] NDTS.DIT sizes

2005-10-17 Thread neil.ruston



A more likely explanation (assuming 30Mb is small compared 
to the overall DIT file size) is that this database is more fragmented than the 
other databases on the other DCs.

The amount of whitespace consumed within a database can be 
ascertained via this KB:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Operations/975c456e-8b79-4ace-8363-82543236dbb3.mspx

neil

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InfrastructureNomura 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
HogenauerSent: 17 October 2005 16:39To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] NDTS.DIT 
sizes


Odd question 


I have 8 
different DCs in a few sites; replication seems to be working great, all 
servers windows 2003 ENT. All servers have plenty of disk space. 


When I look at 
the actual size of my ntds.dit file, its relatively the same on all DCs except 
for one which is 30 MB larger than the others and the last date modified is 
8/9/05, this server holds no roles either. 
Does this mean 
that Im having FRS problems on this server? 

Thanks in 
advance, 
Mike 

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RE: [ActiveDir] NDTS.DIT sizes

2005-10-17 Thread Bernard, Aric








In many environments, 30 MB would be
considered a small difference in sizes between DITs. In a very small
environment I have, the difference is 18 MB. In large environments I have seen
differentials in the GBs. In many cases larger differentials are due to white
space in the DIT. 



As for FRS, there should be no relation
between problems it is having and the size of the DIT.





Regards,



Aric











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hogenauer
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005
8:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] NDTS.DIT
sizes





Odd question 



I have 8
different DCs in a few sites; replication seems to be working great, all
servers windows 2003 ENT. All servers have plenty of disk space. 



When I look at
the actual size of my ntds.dit file, its relatively the same on all
DCs except for one which is 30 MB larger than the others and the last
date modified is 8/9/05, this server holds no roles either. 

Does this mean
that Im having FRS problems on this server? 



Thanks in
advance, 

Mike 










[ActiveDir] Global Catalog

2005-10-17 Thread Pete
Hi 

Just a quick and easy question to profs: 

Can AD domain controller of one domain (one.com) with Global Catalog 
function enabled somehow process logon request of user from different 
domain (other.biz), in case when all
domain controllers for that other domain (other.biz) are not 
reachable?

I believe - no.
Am I right?

Thanks,

Pete


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RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Condra, Jerry W Mr HP
Not sure if it's been mentioned but we've had good success for red or
green status with WhatsUp Gold. It can also be configured to send an
alert when something goes down. Has a web based interface that can be
monitored from the desktop if desired.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:44 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

In the SBS consultant space we see more of  www.levelplatforms.com and 
hyblue.com than MOM...

Brian Desmond wrote:

Nagios does the trick (free too) - www.nagios.org. MOM is another one
(www.microsoft.com). 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
c - 312.731.3132
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send
out an
alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
800-388-0008 Watts 
952-896-9899 Fax 
612-804-8769 Cell 
952-841-3327 Direct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Be excellent to each other 
---End of Line--- 



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

  

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the
game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and


maintaining
  

the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're
aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan
Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their
inbox 
at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in
Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for
monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

 



Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:

   

  

And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item

such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that
instead 
of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can
imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it
daily 
anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks 

RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

2005-10-17 Thread Alain Lissoir
Look at http://www.lissware.net, Volume 1, Sample 1.01 to 1.25 -
WSHScript.vbs, which uses a series of functions.
In this list of functions, you will find two generic routines to play with:
ReadRegistryFunction.vbs and WriteRegistryFunction.vbs.

With these two, you are all set. I reproed the ReadRegistry one below.
Note that from the WSH object model, RegWrite method does not support
REG_MULTI_SZ.
If you need to update REG_MULTI_SZ, you need to use the WMI model. For this
see http://www.lissware.net, Vol 2, Sample 3.03 to 3.09 - WMIRegistry.wsf
(Second code exerpt below).

HTH.

' Author: Alain Lissoir ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'
' ISBN 182664 - Understanding WMI Scripting (Digital Press)

' ISBN 182990 - Leveraging WMI Scripting (Digital Press)


' WSH Technique


Private Function ReadRegistry (objFileName, strKeyName, KeyValueName,
strRegType)

Dim strRegKey
Dim varRegKeyValue()

Dim intIndice
Dim strTempValue

On Error Resume Next

strRegKey = strKeyName  \  KeyValueName
WriteToFile objFileName, ** Reading registry '  strRegKey  '(
 strRegType  ).

strTempValue = WshShell.RegRead (strRegKey)
If Err.Number Then
   ErrorHandler objFileName, ReadRegistry, Err, boolErrorPopup
   Exit Function
End If

Select Case strRegType
   Case REG_BINARY
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) = h  Right(00 
Hex(strTempValue(intIndice)), 2)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_DWORD
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = h  Hex (strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  ) -
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) = strTempValue(intIndice)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = WshShell.ExpandEnvironmentStrings
(strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  ) -
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case Else
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = strTempValue
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  ) -
  varRegKeyValue(0)
End Select

ReadRegistry = varRegKeyValue

End Function

' WMI technique
--
Select Case intKeyType
   Case REG_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetStringValue (intHiveType, _
strBaseKey, _
strKeyName, _
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetMultiStringValue (intHiveType, _
 strBaseKey, _
 strKeyName, _
 
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetExpandedStringValue (intHiveType,
_
strBaseKey,
_
strKeyName,
_
 
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_BINARY
intRC = objWMIClass.SetBinaryValue (intHiveType, _
strBaseKey, _
strKeyName, _
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_DWORD
intRC = objWMIClass.SetDWORDValue (intHiveType, _
   strBaseKey, _
   strKeyName, _
   varKeyNameValue)
End Select

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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:25 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org

[ActiveDir] slightly OT: MissionControl for MIIS

2005-10-17 Thread McClure David

Hi listers,

I'm considering MIIS for a project  haven't been able to find much non-MS
information about MIIS out there on the web.  Hoping for help from y'all.

One of the minor knocks against MIIS seems to be a lack of
mgmt/troubleshooting tools.  Netpro claims to have filled this gap with
MissionControl for MIIS.  Does anyone have any experience with this tool
that you'd be willing to share?  I'm interested in high-level stuff at this
point, such as:  What's the licensing scheme?  In your opinion, does
MissionControl fulfill it's promises?  What's your impression of ease of
implementation, usability, overall bang-for-the-buck, etc?

Thanks!

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RE: [ActiveDir] slightly OT: MissionControl for MIIS

2005-10-17 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
Hi David,

The licensing scheme is per-production-MIIS-server-processor (like
MIIS), plus a charge for each 5 management agents. Test servers, or
processors not used by MIIS aren't counted. The rest of the questions
I'll leave to others, as I suspect my opinions are biased :)

You might get more feedback on MIIS-related topics from the MMSUG Yahoo
group.

-gil

CTO, NetPro

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To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: [ActiveDir] slightly OT: MissionControl for MIIS


Hi listers,

I'm considering MIIS for a project  haven't been able to find much
non-MS
information about MIIS out there on the web.  Hoping for help from
y'all.

One of the minor knocks against MIIS seems to be a lack of
mgmt/troubleshooting tools.  Netpro claims to have filled this gap with
MissionControl for MIIS.  Does anyone have any experience with this tool
that you'd be willing to share?  I'm interested in high-level stuff at
this
point, such as:  What's the licensing scheme?  In your opinion, does
MissionControl fulfill it's promises?  What's your impression of ease of
implementation, usability, overall bang-for-the-buck, etc?

Thanks!


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Re: [ActiveDir] RIS WinPE Question

2005-10-17 Thread Kamlesh Parmar
I am running WinPE on W2k3 server,

only change I have done in .SIf is 

OsLoadOptions = /noguiboot /fastdetect /minint
imagetype = WinPE
You might find great help related to WinPE on : http://www.911cd.net/forums/

--
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On 10/16/05, Dan Holme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:













I
hope some of you brainiacs can help me out here. I have a WinPE image loaded
into a W2K3 RIS server. It launches as a standard image just fine, but creates
a computer account in AD. I know that W2K3 SP1 is supposed to have the
functionality where I can change the *.sif value ImageType=Flat to
ImageType=WinPE and then WinPE is supposed to show up in my "TOOLS"
menu, but it doesn't. It just disappears as an option altogether.



I've
tried various combinations of the Choice Options GPO, including Disabling all
options EXCEPT Tools, at which point the PXE client just says "Can't
show you anything ha ha ha." (or something evil to that effect).



After
2 hours of experimentation and googling, I'm at wits end… Any help
would be greatly appreciated.




Dan











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RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

2005-10-17 Thread Harding, Devon
Which method is preferred, WSH or WMI? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Lissoir
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:01 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Look at http://www.lissware.net, Volume 1, Sample 1.01 to 1.25 -
WSHScript.vbs, which uses a series of functions.
In this list of functions, you will find two generic routines to play
with:
ReadRegistryFunction.vbs and WriteRegistryFunction.vbs.

With these two, you are all set. I reproed the ReadRegistry one below.
Note that from the WSH object model, RegWrite method does not support
REG_MULTI_SZ.
If you need to update REG_MULTI_SZ, you need to use the WMI model. For
this
see http://www.lissware.net, Vol 2, Sample 3.03 to 3.09 -
WMIRegistry.wsf
(Second code exerpt below).

HTH.

' Author: Alain Lissoir ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'
' ISBN 182664 - Understanding WMI Scripting (Digital Press)

' ISBN 182990 - Leveraging WMI Scripting (Digital Press)


' WSH Technique



Private Function ReadRegistry (objFileName, strKeyName, KeyValueName,
strRegType)

Dim strRegKey
Dim varRegKeyValue()

Dim intIndice
Dim strTempValue

On Error Resume Next

strRegKey = strKeyName  \  KeyValueName
WriteToFile objFileName, ** Reading registry '  strRegKey 
'(
 strRegType  ).

strTempValue = WshShell.RegRead (strRegKey)
If Err.Number Then
   ErrorHandler objFileName, ReadRegistry, Err, boolErrorPopup
   Exit Function
End If

Select Case strRegType
   Case REG_BINARY
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) = h  Right(00 
Hex(strTempValue(intIndice)), 2)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)
 )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_DWORD
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = h  Hex (strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) =
strTempValue(intIndice)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)
 )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) =
WshShell.ExpandEnvironmentStrings
(strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case Else
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = strTempValue
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
End Select

ReadRegistry = varRegKeyValue

End Function

' WMI technique
--
Select Case intKeyType
   Case REG_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetStringValue (intHiveType, _
strBaseKey, _
strKeyName, _
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetMultiStringValue
(intHiveType, _
 strBaseKey,
_
 strKeyName,
_
 
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetExpandedStringValue
(intHiveType,
_
 
strBaseKey,
_
 
strKeyName,
_
 
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_BINARY
intRC = objWMIClass.SetBinaryValue (intHiveType, _
strBaseKey, _
strKeyName, _
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_DWORD
intRC = objWMIClass.SetDWORDValue (intHiveType, _
   strBaseKey, _
   strKeyName, _
   varKeyNameValue)
End Select

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From: [EMAIL 

RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog

2005-10-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Yes you are correct. The answer is No. A domain within a forest is the 
authentication boundary. So when all DCs of domain other.biz are unavailable 
the users from other.biz will not be able to log on as there is no DC 
available to authenticate the user at logon and create the access token. During 
logon a GC is contacted to check if universal group memberships exist for the 
user account logging on.
 
Jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pete
Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 5:57 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog



Hi

Just a quick and easy question to profs:

Can AD domain controller of one domain (one.com) with Global Catalog
function enabled somehow process logon request of user from different
domain (other.biz), in case when all
domain controllers for that other domain (other.biz) are not
reachable?

I believe - no.
Am I right?

Thanks,

Pete


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RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Salandra, Justin A.
Whats Up Gold

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out
an alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
800-388-0008 Watts 
952-896-9899 Fax 
612-804-8769 Cell 
952-841-3327 Direct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Be excellent to each other 
---End of Line--- 



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the
game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
maintaining
the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're
aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox

at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in
Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

  

Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:



And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item 
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead

of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily

anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and 
tells daily health status of my server.

Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours 
[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto 
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in the 
event logs.

It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backup 
ran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.

It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database and 
builds the email to be sent internally or externally.

What it does now, is only pulls data from the one box, the SBS box. 
but I
can go into health mon and build my own monitors and grab those event

logs from other machines [need to so that just haven't gotten around 
to it].

Right now if someone [usually me] fat 

RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Nathan Henderson
GFI's Network Server Monitor is another to check out.. Works well for
us.

http://www.gfi.com/nsm/

Nate
-
Nathan Henderson
Network Engineer
Northwest University
ph 425.889.5358

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out
an alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other 
---End of Line--- 



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the
game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small 
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and 
maintaining the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're
aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,

CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox

at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in 
Linux were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for
monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

  

Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:



And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item 
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead

of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily

anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and 
tells daily health status of my server.

Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours 
[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto 
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in the 
event logs.

It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backup 
ran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.

It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database and 
builds the email to be sent internally or externally.

What it does now, is only pulls data from the one box, the SBS box. 
but I
can go into 

RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

2005-10-17 Thread Rich Milburn
Devon, my personal opinion is to avoid WSH when possible, just because I
have run into cases wehre I used a vbscript custom action in an MSI
package, and the WSH is unavailable [1] to the Windows Installer.  Since
I ran that, if I think I might need to use this cool new thing I figured
out how to do with vbscript in an MSI, then I try to use WMI or other
methods, even if WSH exposes them more easily.  But that's my personal
preference, and I am by no means a scripting guru :)

Rich

[1]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/set
up/scripts.asp: 
Note  The installer runs script custom actions directly and does not
use the Windows Script Host. The WScript object cannot be used inside a
script custom action because this object is provided by the Windows
Script Host. Objects in the Windows Script Host object model can only be
used in custom actions if Windows Script Host is installed on the
computer by creating new instances of the object, with a call to
CreateObject, and providing the ProgId of the object (for example
WScript.Shell). Depending on the type of script custom action, access
to some objects and methods of the Windows Script Host object model may
be denied for security reasons.

---
Rich Milburn
MCSE, Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development
Applebee's International, Inc.
4551 W. 107th St
Overland Park, KS 66207
913-967-2819
--
I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn
how to do it. - Pablo Picasso

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 11:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Which method is preferred, WSH or WMI? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Lissoir
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:01 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Look at http://www.lissware.net, Volume 1, Sample 1.01 to 1.25 -
WSHScript.vbs, which uses a series of functions.
In this list of functions, you will find two generic routines to play
with:
ReadRegistryFunction.vbs and WriteRegistryFunction.vbs.

With these two, you are all set. I reproed the ReadRegistry one below.
Note that from the WSH object model, RegWrite method does not support
REG_MULTI_SZ.
If you need to update REG_MULTI_SZ, you need to use the WMI model. For
this
see http://www.lissware.net, Vol 2, Sample 3.03 to 3.09 -
WMIRegistry.wsf
(Second code exerpt below).

HTH.

' Author: Alain Lissoir ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'
' ISBN 182664 - Understanding WMI Scripting (Digital Press)

' ISBN 182990 - Leveraging WMI Scripting (Digital Press)


' WSH Technique



Private Function ReadRegistry (objFileName, strKeyName, KeyValueName,
strRegType)

Dim strRegKey
Dim varRegKeyValue()

Dim intIndice
Dim strTempValue

On Error Resume Next

strRegKey = strKeyName  \  KeyValueName
WriteToFile objFileName, ** Reading registry '  strRegKey 
'(
 strRegType  ).

strTempValue = WshShell.RegRead (strRegKey)
If Err.Number Then
   ErrorHandler objFileName, ReadRegistry, Err, boolErrorPopup
   Exit Function
End If

Select Case strRegType
   Case REG_BINARY
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) = h  Right(00 
Hex(strTempValue(intIndice)), 2)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)
 )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_DWORD
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = h  Hex (strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) =
strTempValue(intIndice)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)
 )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) =
WshShell.ExpandEnvironmentStrings
(strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)

RE: [ActiveDir] Documenting AD

2005-10-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Joe,

You're right... Sorry for that...

Let me guess... Because objectCategory is indexed and because
objectClass is not although you suggest to index it? ;-) 

Cheers,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 23:55
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Documenting AD

Jorge, we need to introduce you to objectcategory. 

;o)

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge de
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:16 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Documenting AD

What could be interesting is just having the information, not how it is
presented. For the documentation of the site and replication topology
(and of course others like OUs structure, members of powerfll groups,
etc.) you could use something like ADFIND. OK, the presentation of it
may not be the most beautifull for documentation but it could be used
 
my EUR 0,0002
 
Cheers,
 
Jorge
 
ADFIND: http://www.joeware.net/win/free/tools/adfind.htm
determine sites:
adfind -config -f (objectClass=site) -dn determine subnets and
associated
subnets:
adfind -config -f (objectClass=subnet) distinguishedname siteobject
determine properties of the intersite transports adfind -config -f
(objectClass=interSiteTransport)
determine site links and associated sites:
adfind -config -f (objectClass=sitelink) distinguishedname sitelist
determine all Site link bridges and its properties adfind -config -f
(objectClass=siteLinkBridge)
determine all NTDS Site Settings objects for each site and its
properties adfind -config -f (objectClass=nTDSSiteSettings)
determine all NTDS Settings objects for each DC and its properties
adfind -config -f (objectClass=nTDSDSA)
determine all replication connections and its properties adfind -config
-f (objectClass=nTDSConnection)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Johnson
Sent: Thu 10/13/2005 11:36 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Documenting AD



Also you IP subnets to Site Mappings need to be documented. I.E. a list
of all IP subnets and what site in Active Directory Sites and services
they belong to.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rocky Habeeb
Sent: 12 October 2005 18:27
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Documenting AD

[Brett]spending time working on AD  Replication, AD
backup/restore
Did you create ASR and will a DC who masters changes (per joe's
comments) and who goes down and has to be rebuilt via ASR have the USN
rollback problems you guys are talking about?

[Hint] Keep it simple.  Some of us cannot follow all of this because
you guys are so far out there, we couldn't track you even with the
Hubble telescope.

Just tell me my ASRs are OK

RH

___



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:42 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Documenting AD


Additional components:
=
Schema
Database
Administrative support model
Domain controller spec
DC/GC placement
Exchange topology and design
DNS design (zone type, placement etc etc) SYSVOL/FRS DFS

Administration:
===
User and group admin and tools
DC admin/support and tools
Forest admin and ownership
GPO admin and tools

I'll stop there and let others chime in...

neil

___
Neil Ruston
Global Technology Infrastructure
Nomura International plc



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Sutton
Sent: 12 October 2005 16:28
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Documenting AD

Hey all,

Being the local bod with AD knowledge at work I've been volunteered
the job of documenting our domain (possibly more than one if this goes
well). Whilst being a good little job it has already caused me a few
problems, mainly just how much detail to put in, so I thought I'd ask
for some pearls of wisdom from you guys. What do you lot do? How do you
go about it? etc

so far I'm thinking along these lines:
- a general AD layout diagram detailing the OU structure - Visio will be
the weapon of choice I think
- list all GPO's, where they're linked to and what they do etc
- a breakdown of sites and their links
- a breakdown of replication settings
- listing of service accounts with descriptions and reasons for
existence
(maybe?)
- trusts between any other domains
- detail FSMO roles

... and that's kinda where I run out of ideas lol

what do you'll reckon? Have I missed or gone overboard on anything?

if I've got the time I'd like to try and script as much of this as
possible, but if anyone knows of something 

RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread Craig Cerino
Agreed ( not WUP)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra,
Justin A.
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:15 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Whats Up Gold

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out
an alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
800-388-0008 Watts 
952-896-9899 Fax 
612-804-8769 Cell 
952-841-3327 Direct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Be excellent to each other 
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-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the
game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
maintaining
the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're
aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox

at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in
Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

  

Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:



And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item 
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead

of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily

anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and 
tells daily health status of my server.

Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours 
[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto 
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in the 
event logs.

It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backup 
ran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.

It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database and 
builds the email to be sent internally or externally.

What it does now, is 

RE: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

2005-10-17 Thread WILLIAMS, J.D.
We use ActiveXperts (.com), it used to be the same engine as the GFI tool,
but the GFI tool has a much better UI for creating the monitors - I'd go
with GFI at this point.  It's fairly inexpensive, not really 'enterprise'
ready (based on rule creation), but the number of rules that you can create
and the ability to hook into vbs scripts works well for us.

Thanks, 
JD 



-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Monitoring

Hello all...

We are searching for a tool that will monitor server uptime and send out an
alert when a server goes down.

Anyone have a suggestion?  Does not have to be too complicated.

Everything is Win2K AD fully spacked.

Thank you in advance.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
800-388-0008 Watts 
952-896-9899 Fax 
612-804-8769 Cell 
952-841-3327 Direct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Be excellent to each other 
---End of Line--- 



-Original Message-
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.


I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)

Rick Kingslan wrote:

Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and
maintaining
the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox 
at 6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email 
they can't.

At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

  

Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server 
trying to tell me?

I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:



And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise 
space, the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of 
systems pumping this type of information into paging and making 
intelligent decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, 
etc.

Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ 
the event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item 
such as HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead 
of getting an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to 
create a rule to send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM 
collects, enforces and reports this same type of information.

Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily 
anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the event logs and 
tells daily health status of my server.

Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 hours 
[just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an overview if auto 
services are not running, critical alerts and critical errors in the 
event logs.

It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the backup 
ran, and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.

It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde 

[ActiveDir] DFS using a Hidden Share

2005-10-17 Thread Salandra, Justin A.








Is it possible to create a DFS Root that is hidden using the
$ symbol in the name



\\domainname.org\dfsroot$



Thanks



Justin A. Salandra

MCSE Windows 2000  2003

Network and Technology Services Manager

Catholic Healthcare System

646.505.3681 - office

917.455.0110 - cell

[EMAIL PROTECTED]










RE: [ActiveDir] DFS using a Hidden Share

2005-10-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Yep, no problem
 
jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Salandra, Justin A.
Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 9:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] DFS using a Hidden Share



Is it possible to create a DFS Root that is hidden using the $ symbol in the 
name

 

\\domainname.org\dfsroot$ file:///\\domainname.org\dfsroot$ 

 

Thanks

 

Justin A. Salandra

MCSE Windows 2000  2003

Network and Technology Services Manager

Catholic Healthcare System

646.505.3681 - office

917.455.0110 - cell

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RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog

2005-10-17 Thread Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
Hmm - I wouldn't 100% call the domain the authentication boundary.

Authentication in a W2k+ Network without any mods not to rely on the GC is
done - as you said - via DC of the same domain the account resides plus any
GC of the forest - not necessarily that a GC which resides in the same
domain is available but the logon will work.

Ulf I also don't agree with the general 'Forest is the security
boundary'-statement B. Simon-Weidner

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|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:47 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
|
|Yes you are correct. The answer is No. A domain within a 
|forest is the authentication boundary. So when all DCs of 
|domain other.biz are unavailable the users from other.biz 
|will not be able to log on as there is no DC available to 
|authenticate the user at logon and create the access token. 
|During logon a GC is contacted to check if universal group 
|memberships exist for the user account logging on.
| 
|Jorge
|
|
|
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pete
|Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 5:57 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
|
|
|
|Hi
|
|Just a quick and easy question to profs:
|
|Can AD domain controller of one domain (one.com) with Global 
|Catalog function enabled somehow process logon request of user 
|from different domain (other.biz), in case when all domain 
|controllers for that other domain (other.biz) are not reachable?
|
|I believe - no.
|Am I right?
|
|Thanks,
|
|Pete
|
|
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RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)

2005-10-17 Thread Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
BTW - let us know when we can start the ad-campaign in our blogs / websites
;-)

Ulf 

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:40 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)
|
|Joe, I'm not sure what you've been smoking lately, but it must 
|be good.  A few clarifications
|
|We had more reviewers for AD3e than any other book I've done recently.
|People were asking us to review the book so we never had a 
|problem finding enough reviewers.  Rick, don't take offense.
|
|The book is going to be released the last day of December and 
|will be in stores in January.  Originally they said it was 
|going to be in stores by December, but apparently that isn't 
|the case now.
|
|Lastly, they are expecting to sell quite a bit more than 2000 
|copies.  The first sell-in may be more than 2000 copies.  
|O'Reilly wouldn't have done this book (much less expedite it) 
|if they thought they'd sell only 2000 copies.  They intend to 
|do some special promotions with this book and hopefully it 
|will have a significant store presence (ie, a few copies in 
|most stores.)  The 100ft ocean liner is still out of the 
|question, but you should have no problem purchasing a used 
|hole-free 10ft jon boat with one oar off ebay.
|
|Regards,
|Robbie Allen
|http://www.rallenhome.com/
|
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
|Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 7:36 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)
|
|Hey I needed to maintain a certain quality 
|
|Did you send something to Robbie to say you wanted to review 
|it? In the end we were begging for reviewers, I even took Dean 
|as a reviewer and you know the edge I had to be on for 
|that He kept wanting to spell words wrong.
|Eventually I just took out all references to the words color, 
|humor, and other or words.
|
| 
|
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
|Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 7:31 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)
|
|joe said: Again, the reviewers did a fantastic job.
|
|Of which, you will all notice when the book comes out, I am 
|_NOT_ one of those reviewers.
|
|joe said: They kept me honest
|
|Which is one of the reason _WHY_ I was not one of those reviewers
|
|Rick
|
|P.S.  Hey, joe  :op
|
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
|Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:10 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] salary(OT)
|
|Not out yet, I am expecting Mid November or Early December. I 
|sent an email to see if I can find out. 
|
|The book is NOT written in my voice, I tried as best as 
|possible to maintain the voice that was there. I simply 
|revised it though I did add a Chapter on ADAM and a chapter on 
|some basic Exchange/AD Scripting. If you have the first or 
|second edition I think you will find this edition worthy of 
|picking up even if you don't have Windows Server 2003 SP1 or 
|R2. I tried fleshing out and changing anything I didn't feel 
|was right. Also the reviewers all did a bangup job finding 
|things I missed. I admit I didn't sleep much in August or 
|September. Tony may have noticed a lull in the list volume, me 
|working on that book saved at least 2 bazillion helpless bits 
|from being sacrificed.
|
|I learned that revising a book may actually be harder than 
|writing a book from scratch and you get paid less. Well maybe 
|it is depending on if you know what you want to write about. 
|With revising you can't just write, you have to read, reread, 
|write, reread, write, reread, tweak, reread. When you change 
|the flow and feel and voice it is like hitting a brick wall 
|when reading. I am sure I didn't get rid of all of the bricks 
|but I certainly tried to knock the walls down to a point where 
|you can step over them without too much trouble. Anyway, I 
|spent less time writing the ADAM chapter than I spent updating 
|the security chapter. I know now that I probably should have 
|just rewritten from scratch and it would have gone faster. Oh 
|well, live and learn or don't live long.
|
|Again, the reviewers did a fantastic job. They kept me honest 
|when I tried to skip over some stuff when I got tired and I 
|thank them profusely. I tried to do them justice in the small 
|space provided to me for acknowledgements.
|Those are the things people tend not to look at at the front 
|of the book. I do ask that if you pick up the book, you do 
|look. Those, folks, deserve,
|the: attention.
|
|
|  joe
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RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

2005-10-17 Thread Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
I've discussed something like this recently: display a monitoring summary at
every admin login, e.g. instead of the annoying configure your server
thingie ;-) There are just to many admins not paying any attention to the
event logs, so if they don't go into event logs bring the event logs to them
:D

Ulf 

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
|Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:33 AM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
|
|here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking
|
|In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send 
|it daily anyway, but it's configurable] and it looks at the 
|event logs and tells daily health status of my server.
|
|Like today my email tells me my server has been running for 6 
|hours [just rebooted it last night] and it gives me an 
|overview if auto services are not running, critical alerts and 
|critical errors in the event logs.
|
|It tells me memory/disk size, cpu use, top processes, if the 
|backup ran,  and aggregates the alerts from all the log files.
|
|It's a health mon that dumps it's data into a msde database 
|and builds the email to be sent internally or externally.
|
|What it does now, is only pulls data from the one box, the SBS 
|box. but I can go into health mon and build my own monitors 
|and grab those event logs from other machines [need to so that 
|just haven't gotten around to it].
|
|Right now if someone [usually me] fat fingers a password, for 
|example, it gives me an alert in the email of the last time it 
|occurred and how many occurrances.  Basically it's tracking 
|the critical alerts in all the event logs and summarizing the 
|events along with the number of events in the email [and 
|showing the last time the event occurred so you can start your 
|investigation from that point back]
|
|For SBS it's in the box, it's a gui wizard that builds 
|this pretty little html email that my server builds and hits 
|me every morning at 6 a.m and says Hey here's how I'm 
|doing...how are you?.  It's the mid market that doesn't have 
|this.  [and yes, we've told Mothership Redmond they need to 
|steal this sucker and put it in the mid market server bundle]
|
|Does it make me more aware of events on my server?  Oh you 
|betcha it does.  Which is why this needs to be as you 
|say...native in small and medium serversheck I'd strongly 
|argue that no server should be shipped without some admin 
|somewhere getting an in your face report on that sucker.
|
|I'll go to Frys and buy bigger harddrives if I need to.  But 
|give me a big fat audit log file and I'm a happy camper. 
|
|
|Al Mulnick wrote:
|
|I'll see your Eurocents and add raise you two. :)
|
|I fully understand where you're coming from Ulf.  Adding this 
|information
|into the DIT when it is currently possible to get is 
|something that grates
|against common sense and common engineering principles even 
|if you subscribe
|to belts and braces methodologies. 
|
|However, I think two things make this a worthwhile request with a big
|payoff.  First to Laura's point about diminishing returns.  I 
|agree, at some
|point there will be diminishing returns.  I also believe that 
|as hardware
|gets bigger (i.e. Standard 80 GB hard drives, 1 GB memory in 
|workstation
|machines, etc. [1]) the bar gets raised until we get to the 
|diminishing
|return.  Since we're targeting 80/20 out of the box [2] it 
|seems reasonable
|that 80% of the deployments would benefit from such a change. 
|The other 20
|would be those that a) don't care or know about such things 
|and b) those
|that can't tolerate the additional overhead and therefore 
|wouldn't want to
|deploy it.  I say tough pickles to them.  :)  Seriously, this 
|could be on by
|default but configurable (group policy?) to disable it as a 
|performance
|issue etc. 
|
|Second, I think that the major benefit is the ability to 
|actually get usable
|information native to the product vs. having to invest in a 
|third party
|product. Why?  Because today in order to get that information 
|I have to have
|something that scrapes the Security logs looking for such 
|information.  Is
|this a good idea?  I think it is.  Is it something that could 
|be native?  I
|think it could and should be native if technically feasible. 
|
|Making us look in a particular DC's event logs is more 
|difficult than it
|should be without yet another product.  That's fine for the 
|really large
|companies that have deeper pockets, and larger needs.  For 
|the small to
|medium businesses, it should not be so difficult nor should 
|it *require* SQL
|licensing or expertise.  
|
|
|
|[1] I'm not saying that the quality has kept up, only that 
|the hardware is
|bigger, faster, stronger and cheaper. 
|[2] I'm making that up, but it sounds reasonable
|
|
|
|
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Re: [ActiveDir] slightly OT: MissionControl for MIIS

2005-10-17 Thread Phil Renouf
I'd be interested in hearing if any of you have been using this. Having used MIIS a bit lately I'd love to hear about anything that makes it easier to manage.

Phil
On 10/17/05, Gil Kirkpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi David,The licensing scheme is per-production-MIIS-server-processor (likeMIIS), plus a charge for each 5 management agents. Test servers, or
processors not used by MIIS aren't counted. The rest of the questionsI'll leave to others, as I suspect my opinions are biased :)You might get more feedback on MIIS-related topics from the MMSUG Yahoogroup.
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Hi listers,I'm considering MIIS for a project  haven't been able to find muchnon-MSinformation about MIIS out there on the web.Hoping for help fromy'all.One of the minor knocks against MIIS seems to be a lack of
mgmt/troubleshooting tools.Netpro claims to have filled this gap withMissionControl for MIIS.Does anyone have any experience with this toolthat you'd be willing to share?I'm interested in high-level stuff at
thispoint, such as:What's the licensing scheme?In your opinion, doesMissionControl fulfill it's promises?What's your impression of ease ofimplementation, usability, overall bang-for-the-buck, etc?
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RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

2005-10-17 Thread Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
Another Hmm.

I'd still like to see that better configured that putting it into the AD if
the infos are already there (or configurable). We could request to make it
default to log that kind of info. And as far as we are talking about looking
into every server: Where's ACS? And also SNMP would be an option to get
notified on a single system instead of looking into every DC.

Ulf

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:10 AM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
|
|I'll see your Eurocents and add raise you two. :)
|
|I fully understand where you're coming from Ulf.  Adding this 
|information into the DIT when it is currently possible to get 
|is something that grates against common sense and common 
|engineering principles even if you subscribe to belts and 
|braces methodologies. 
|
|However, I think two things make this a worthwhile request 
|with a big payoff.  First to Laura's point about diminishing 
|returns.  I agree, at some point there will be diminishing 
|returns.  I also believe that as hardware gets bigger (i.e. 
|Standard 80 GB hard drives, 1 GB memory in workstation 
|machines, etc. [1]) the bar gets raised until we get to the 
|diminishing return.  Since we're targeting 80/20 out of the 
|box [2] it seems reasonable that 80% of the deployments would 
|benefit from such a change. The other 20 would be those that 
|a) don't care or know about such things and b) those that 
|can't tolerate the additional overhead and therefore wouldn't 
|want to deploy it.  I say tough pickles to them.  :)  
|Seriously, this could be on by default but configurable (group 
|policy?) to disable it as a performance issue etc. 
|
|Second, I think that the major benefit is the ability to 
|actually get usable information native to the product vs. 
|having to invest in a third party product. Why?  Because today 
|in order to get that information I have to have something that 
|scrapes the Security logs looking for such information.  Is 
|this a good idea?  I think it is.  Is it something that could 
|be native?  I think it could and should be native if 
|technically feasible. 
|
|Making us look in a particular DC's event logs is more 
|difficult than it should be without yet another product.  
|That's fine for the really large companies that have deeper 
|pockets, and larger needs.  For the small to medium 
|businesses, it should not be so difficult nor should it 
|*require* SQL licensing or expertise.  
|
|
|
|[1] I'm not saying that the quality has kept up, only that the 
|hardware is bigger, faster, stronger and cheaper. 
|[2] I'm making that up, but it sounds reasonable
|
|
|
|
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B.
|Simon-Weidner
|Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:42 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
|
|
|Hmm.
|
|Do we really want to excuse prior failure of proper auditing 
|by putting more data into AD? Wouldn't that lead into every 
|request of non-configured auditing to requests for extending 
|the AD? Do it right the first way.
|
|I completely agree that we should make the people more 
|auditing aware, and it would be great to have a centralized 
|auditing together with some force of configuration instead of 
|the per server events and auditing which is rearly configured.
|
|However I'm not sure if I want this kind of data in the AD.
|
|Just my Eurocents.
|
|Ulf 
|
||-Original Message-
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura E. 
||Hunter
||Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:28 PM
||To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
||Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
||
||Various thoughts from this thread:
||
||[1] I agree with Al and Paul[1] on a desire for that sort of 
|metadata.  
||I'm not as convinced of the trade-off value of bloating the DIT for 
||full undelete information, particularly in monster big environments.
||For my teeny-tiny single domain it probably wouldn't be that bad of a 
||hit, but I imagine that the laws of diminishing returns would quickly 
||set in.
||
||[2] Please finish the thought, Brett, I'm sure I'd find it 
||helpful/enlightening/informative even if it's only speaking in 
||hypotheticals.
||
||[3] It's Gil and Darren's turn to crack me up today, I guess joe is 
||taking a break.
||
||
||[1] *waves*  Hi Paul!  Glad to see you alive post-Summit.
||
||- L
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RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

2005-10-17 Thread Brian Desmond
ACS is now integrated into MOM3 which is coming I don't know when. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
c - 312.731.3132
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B.
Simon-Weidner
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:37 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

Another Hmm.

I'd still like to see that better configured that putting it into the AD if
the infos are already there (or configurable). We could request to make it
default to log that kind of info. And as far as we are talking about looking
into every server: Where's ACS? And also SNMP would be an option to get
notified on a single system instead of looking into every DC.

Ulf

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:10 AM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
|
|I'll see your Eurocents and add raise you two. :)
|
|I fully understand where you're coming from Ulf.  Adding this 
|information into the DIT when it is currently possible to get 
|is something that grates against common sense and common 
|engineering principles even if you subscribe to belts and 
|braces methodologies. 
|
|However, I think two things make this a worthwhile request 
|with a big payoff.  First to Laura's point about diminishing 
|returns.  I agree, at some point there will be diminishing 
|returns.  I also believe that as hardware gets bigger (i.e. 
|Standard 80 GB hard drives, 1 GB memory in workstation 
|machines, etc. [1]) the bar gets raised until we get to the 
|diminishing return.  Since we're targeting 80/20 out of the 
|box [2] it seems reasonable that 80% of the deployments would 
|benefit from such a change. The other 20 would be those that 
|a) don't care or know about such things and b) those that 
|can't tolerate the additional overhead and therefore wouldn't 
|want to deploy it.  I say tough pickles to them.  :)  
|Seriously, this could be on by default but configurable (group 
|policy?) to disable it as a performance issue etc. 
|
|Second, I think that the major benefit is the ability to 
|actually get usable information native to the product vs. 
|having to invest in a third party product. Why?  Because today 
|in order to get that information I have to have something that 
|scrapes the Security logs looking for such information.  Is 
|this a good idea?  I think it is.  Is it something that could 
|be native?  I think it could and should be native if 
|technically feasible. 
|
|Making us look in a particular DC's event logs is more 
|difficult than it should be without yet another product.  
|That's fine for the really large companies that have deeper 
|pockets, and larger needs.  For the small to medium 
|businesses, it should not be so difficult nor should it 
|*require* SQL licensing or expertise.  
|
|
|
|[1] I'm not saying that the quality has kept up, only that the 
|hardware is bigger, faster, stronger and cheaper. 
|[2] I'm making that up, but it sounds reasonable
|
|
|
|
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B.
|Simon-Weidner
|Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:42 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
|
|
|Hmm.
|
|Do we really want to excuse prior failure of proper auditing 
|by putting more data into AD? Wouldn't that lead into every 
|request of non-configured auditing to requests for extending 
|the AD? Do it right the first way.
|
|I completely agree that we should make the people more 
|auditing aware, and it would be great to have a centralized 
|auditing together with some force of configuration instead of 
|the per server events and auditing which is rearly configured.
|
|However I'm not sure if I want this kind of data in the AD.
|
|Just my Eurocents.
|
|Ulf 
|
||-Original Message-
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura E. 
||Hunter
||Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:28 PM
||To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
||Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
||
||Various thoughts from this thread:
||
||[1] I agree with Al and Paul[1] on a desire for that sort of 
|metadata.  
||I'm not as convinced of the trade-off value of bloating the DIT for 
||full undelete information, particularly in monster big environments.
||For my teeny-tiny single domain it probably wouldn't be that bad of a 
||hit, but I imagine that the laws of diminishing returns would quickly 
||set in.
||
||[2] Please finish the thought, Brett, I'm sure I'd find it 
||helpful/enlightening/informative even if it's only speaking in 
||hypotheticals.
||
||[3] It's Gil and Darren's turn to crack me up today, I guess joe is 
||taking a break.
||
||
||[1] *waves*  Hi Paul!  Glad to see you alive post-Summit.
||
||- L
||List info   : 

RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog

2005-10-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Well, I call it that way because a user can authenticate with only DCs from its 
domain available (assuming the requirement for a GC is disabled) but cannot 
authenticate without a DC from its domain while having a GC available. You are 
correct that any GC in the forest may be used if the GC requirement is enabled 
(by default) or even use the crappy universal group caching feature. So you 
need a DC from your domain to authenticate and that is why a domain is called 
the authentication boundary (at least for me ;-) )
 
So why don't you agree with the general - forest is the security boundary - 
statement?
Jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 11:24 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog



Hmm - I wouldn't 100% call the domain the authentication boundary.

Authentication in a W2k+ Network without any mods not to rely on the GC is
done - as you said - via DC of the same domain the account resides plus any
GC of the forest - not necessarily that a GC which resides in the same
domain is available but the logon will work.

Ulf I also don't agree with the general 'Forest is the security
boundary'-statement B. Simon-Weidner

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
|Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:47 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
|
|Yes you are correct. The answer is No. A domain within a
|forest is the authentication boundary. So when all DCs of
|domain other.biz are unavailable the users from other.biz
|will not be able to log on as there is no DC available to
|authenticate the user at logon and create the access token.
|During logon a GC is contacted to check if universal group
|memberships exist for the user account logging on.
|
|Jorge
|
|
|
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pete
|Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 5:57 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
|
|
|
|Hi
|
|Just a quick and easy question to profs:
|
|Can AD domain controller of one domain (one.com) with Global
|Catalog function enabled somehow process logon request of user
|from different domain (other.biz), in case when all domain
|controllers for that other domain (other.biz) are not reachable?
|
|I believe - no.
|Am I right?
|
|Thanks,
|
|Pete
|
|
|--
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RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog

2005-10-17 Thread Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
|So why don't you agree with the general - forest is the 
|security boundary - statement?

Cause IMHO the domain is a security boundary against accidential security
issues, the forest against malicious/criminal.

Companies usually trust their admins of different domains but might want to
protect them against accidential mistakes or gaining rights easily. A
different domain would be sufficient then. However if you want to protect
yourself against admins with criminal energy (and I consider manipulating
SID-History on purpose as criminal energy) the forest is the security
boundary.

So I agree a plain vanilla statement the domain is the security boundary
is wrong, however I don't like the same plain vanilla statement of the
forest - should be more clearly pointed out if we are talking about criminal
intentions or accidential intentions (which includes let's try quickly if we
are able to ... - does not include hacking).

Ulf 

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 11:59 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
|
|Well, I call it that way because a user can authenticate with 
|only DCs from its domain available (assuming the requirement 
|for a GC is disabled) but cannot authenticate without a DC 
|from its domain while having a GC available. You are correct 
|that any GC in the forest may be used if the GC requirement is 
|enabled (by default) or even use the crappy universal group 
|caching feature. So you need a DC from your domain to 
|authenticate and that is why a domain is called the 
|authentication boundary (at least for me ;-) )
| 
|So why don't you agree with the general - forest is the 
|security boundary - statement?
|Jorge
|
|
|
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ulf B. 
|Simon-Weidner
|Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 11:24 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
|
|
|
|Hmm - I wouldn't 100% call the domain the authentication boundary.
|
|Authentication in a W2k+ Network without any mods not to rely 
|on the GC is done - as you said - via DC of the same domain 
|the account resides plus any GC of the forest - not 
|necessarily that a GC which resides in the same domain is 
|available but the logon will work.
|
|Ulf I also don't agree with the general 'Forest is the 
|security boundary'-statement B. Simon-Weidner
|
||-Original Message-
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|Almeida Pinto, 
||Jorge de
||Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:47 PM
||To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
||Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
||
||Yes you are correct. The answer is No. A domain within a 
|forest is the 
||authentication boundary. So when all DCs of domain other.biz are 
||unavailable the users from other.biz
||will not be able to log on as there is no DC available to 
|authenticate 
||the user at logon and create the access token.
||During logon a GC is contacted to check if universal group 
|memberships 
||exist for the user account logging on.
||
||Jorge
||
||
||
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pete
||Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 5:57 PM
||To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
||Subject: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
||
||
||
||Hi
||
||Just a quick and easy question to profs:
||
||Can AD domain controller of one domain (one.com) with Global Catalog 
||function enabled somehow process logon request of user from different 
||domain (other.biz), in case when all domain controllers for 
|that other 
||domain (other.biz) are not reachable?
||
||I believe - no.
||Am I right?
||
||Thanks,
||
||Pete
||
||
||--
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RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

2005-10-17 Thread Free, Bob
 Where's ACS? 

As the beta came to a end, the last I was told the agent would be in R2
(free) and the collector would be a separate product (!free)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B.
Simon-Weidner
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:37 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

Another Hmm.

I'd still like to see that better configured that putting it into the AD
if
the infos are already there (or configurable). We could request to make
it
default to log that kind of info. And as far as we are talking about
looking
into every server: Where's ACS? And also SNMP would be an option to get
notified on a single system instead of looking into every DC.

Ulf

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:10 AM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
|
|I'll see your Eurocents and add raise you two. :)
|
|I fully understand where you're coming from Ulf.  Adding this 
|information into the DIT when it is currently possible to get 
|is something that grates against common sense and common 
|engineering principles even if you subscribe to belts and 
|braces methodologies. 
|
|However, I think two things make this a worthwhile request 
|with a big payoff.  First to Laura's point about diminishing 
|returns.  I agree, at some point there will be diminishing 
|returns.  I also believe that as hardware gets bigger (i.e. 
|Standard 80 GB hard drives, 1 GB memory in workstation 
|machines, etc. [1]) the bar gets raised until we get to the 
|diminishing return.  Since we're targeting 80/20 out of the 
|box [2] it seems reasonable that 80% of the deployments would 
|benefit from such a change. The other 20 would be those that 
|a) don't care or know about such things and b) those that 
|can't tolerate the additional overhead and therefore wouldn't 
|want to deploy it.  I say tough pickles to them.  :)  
|Seriously, this could be on by default but configurable (group 
|policy?) to disable it as a performance issue etc. 
|
|Second, I think that the major benefit is the ability to 
|actually get usable information native to the product vs. 
|having to invest in a third party product. Why?  Because today 
|in order to get that information I have to have something that 
|scrapes the Security logs looking for such information.  Is 
|this a good idea?  I think it is.  Is it something that could 
|be native?  I think it could and should be native if 
|technically feasible. 
|
|Making us look in a particular DC's event logs is more 
|difficult than it should be without yet another product.  
|That's fine for the really large companies that have deeper 
|pockets, and larger needs.  For the small to medium 
|businesses, it should not be so difficult nor should it 
|*require* SQL licensing or expertise.  
|
|
|
|[1] I'm not saying that the quality has kept up, only that the 
|hardware is bigger, faster, stronger and cheaper. 
|[2] I'm making that up, but it sounds reasonable
|
|
|
|
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B.
|Simon-Weidner
|Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:42 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
|
|
|Hmm.
|
|Do we really want to excuse prior failure of proper auditing 
|by putting more data into AD? Wouldn't that lead into every 
|request of non-configured auditing to requests for extending 
|the AD? Do it right the first way.
|
|I completely agree that we should make the people more 
|auditing aware, and it would be great to have a centralized 
|auditing together with some force of configuration instead of 
|the per server events and auditing which is rearly configured.
|
|However I'm not sure if I want this kind of data in the AD.
|
|Just my Eurocents.
|
|Ulf 
|
||-Original Message-
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura E. 
||Hunter
||Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:28 PM
||To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
||Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
||
||Various thoughts from this thread:
||
||[1] I agree with Al and Paul[1] on a desire for that sort of 
|metadata.  
||I'm not as convinced of the trade-off value of bloating the DIT for 
||full undelete information, particularly in monster big environments.
||For my teeny-tiny single domain it probably wouldn't be that bad of a 
||hit, but I imagine that the laws of diminishing returns would quickly 
||set in.
||
||[2] Please finish the thought, Brett, I'm sure I'd find it 
||helpful/enlightening/informative even if it's only speaking in 
||hypotheticals.
||
||[3] It's Gil and Darren's turn to crack me up today, I guess joe is 
||taking a break.
||
||
||[1] *waves*  Hi Paul!  Glad to see you alive post-Summit.
||
||- L
||List info   : 

RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog

2005-10-17 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
I think it is better to describe a domain as a policy and administration
boundary (and a replication boundary), rather than a weak security
boundary. It is more precise, and IMO, given the automatic domain trusts
in a forest, there is not much of a security boundary between domains.

And given the ease with which malware is distributed (through email and
web pages for instance), the distinction between criminal and
unintentional is thin, if not non-existent. People with criminal
intent subvert administrative machines and accounts all the time. So
even if you think your domain admin threats are all in the non-malicious
category (not a smart way to think in any case), once the domain admin
is exposed to some malware script, they've effectively taken on the
criminal intent.

-gil

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B.
Simon-Weidner
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:14 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog

|So why don't you agree with the general - forest is the 
|security boundary - statement?

Cause IMHO the domain is a security boundary against accidential
security
issues, the forest against malicious/criminal.

Companies usually trust their admins of different domains but might want
to
protect them against accidential mistakes or gaining rights easily. A
different domain would be sufficient then. However if you want to
protect
yourself against admins with criminal energy (and I consider
manipulating
SID-History on purpose as criminal energy) the forest is the security
boundary.

So I agree a plain vanilla statement the domain is the security
boundary
is wrong, however I don't like the same plain vanilla statement of the
forest - should be more clearly pointed out if we are talking about
criminal
intentions or accidential intentions (which includes let's try quickly
if we
are able to ... - does not include hacking).

Ulf 

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 11:59 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
|
|Well, I call it that way because a user can authenticate with 
|only DCs from its domain available (assuming the requirement 
|for a GC is disabled) but cannot authenticate without a DC 
|from its domain while having a GC available. You are correct 
|that any GC in the forest may be used if the GC requirement is 
|enabled (by default) or even use the crappy universal group 
|caching feature. So you need a DC from your domain to 
|authenticate and that is why a domain is called the 
|authentication boundary (at least for me ;-) )
| 
|So why don't you agree with the general - forest is the 
|security boundary - statement?
|Jorge
|
|
|
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ulf B. 
|Simon-Weidner
|Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 11:24 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
|
|
|
|Hmm - I wouldn't 100% call the domain the authentication boundary.
|
|Authentication in a W2k+ Network without any mods not to rely 
|on the GC is done - as you said - via DC of the same domain 
|the account resides plus any GC of the forest - not 
|necessarily that a GC which resides in the same domain is 
|available but the logon will work.
|
|Ulf I also don't agree with the general 'Forest is the 
|security boundary'-statement B. Simon-Weidner
|
||-Original Message-
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|Almeida Pinto, 
||Jorge de
||Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:47 PM
||To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
||Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
||
||Yes you are correct. The answer is No. A domain within a 
|forest is the 
||authentication boundary. So when all DCs of domain other.biz are 
||unavailable the users from other.biz
||will not be able to log on as there is no DC available to 
|authenticate 
||the user at logon and create the access token.
||During logon a GC is contacted to check if universal group 
|memberships 
||exist for the user account logging on.
||
||Jorge
||
||
||
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pete
||Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 5:57 PM
||To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
||Subject: [ActiveDir] Global Catalog
||
||
||
||Hi
||
||Just a quick and easy question to profs:
||
||Can AD domain controller of one domain (one.com) with Global Catalog 
||function enabled somehow process logon request of user from different 
||domain (other.biz), in case when all domain controllers for 
|that other 
||domain (other.biz) are not reachable?
||
||I believe - no.
||Am I right?
||
||Thanks,
||
||Pete
||
||
||--
||Bezmaksas e-pasta adreses piedava http://pasts.delfi.lv/
||List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
||List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
||List archive:

RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

2005-10-17 Thread Alain Lissoir
If you are Windows and above and don't need REG_MULTI_SZ updates, I would go
for WSH (pretty simple model).
If you need to do more complex stuffs, I would use WMI (which is actually
used from WSH as it is the scripting engine).

/Alain 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Which method is preferred, WSH or WMI? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Lissoir
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:01 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Look at http://www.lissware.net, Volume 1, Sample 1.01 to 1.25 -
WSHScript.vbs, which uses a series of functions.
In this list of functions, you will find two generic routines to play
with:
ReadRegistryFunction.vbs and WriteRegistryFunction.vbs.

With these two, you are all set. I reproed the ReadRegistry one below.
Note that from the WSH object model, RegWrite method does not support
REG_MULTI_SZ.
If you need to update REG_MULTI_SZ, you need to use the WMI model. For this
see http://www.lissware.net, Vol 2, Sample 3.03 to 3.09 - WMIRegistry.wsf
(Second code exerpt below).

HTH.

' Author: Alain Lissoir ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'
' ISBN 182664 - Understanding WMI Scripting (Digital Press)

' ISBN 182990 - Leveraging WMI Scripting (Digital Press)


' WSH Technique



Private Function ReadRegistry (objFileName, strKeyName, KeyValueName,
strRegType)

Dim strRegKey
Dim varRegKeyValue()

Dim intIndice
Dim strTempValue

On Error Resume Next

strRegKey = strKeyName  \  KeyValueName
WriteToFile objFileName, ** Reading registry '  strRegKey  '(
 strRegType  ).

strTempValue = WshShell.RegRead (strRegKey)
If Err.Number Then
   ErrorHandler objFileName, ReadRegistry, Err, boolErrorPopup
   Exit Function
End If

Select Case strRegType
   Case REG_BINARY
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) = h  Right(00 
Hex(strTempValue(intIndice)), 2)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_DWORD
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = h  Hex (strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) =
strTempValue(intIndice)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) =
WshShell.ExpandEnvironmentStrings
(strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case Else
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = strTempValue
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
End Select

ReadRegistry = varRegKeyValue

End Function

' WMI technique
--
Select Case intKeyType
   Case REG_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetStringValue (intHiveType, _
strBaseKey, _
strKeyName, _
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetMultiStringValue (intHiveType, _
 strBaseKey, _
 strKeyName, _
 
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetExpandedStringValue
(intHiveType,
_
 
strBaseKey,
_
 
strKeyName,
_
 
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_BINARY
intRC = objWMIClass.SetBinaryValue (intHiveType, _
strBaseKey, _
strKeyName, _

RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

2005-10-17 Thread Al Mulnick
Not sure that's going to fix the issue though, unless I'm missing something. 
 Wherever the information gets put, it should be a) done as the default yet 
configurable b) centrally viewable (I should NOT have to visit each DC in my 
forest to find the data) and c) be included in the base product.  I can see 
no valuable way to otherwise do this.  Having to deploy yet another product 
doesn't fix the problem, it exacerbates it; it's even worse if it's a reskit 
item as those aren't supported nor as heavily tested.  This is important 
enough that it should be and should meet those criteria above.


We may just need to knock a few more edges off before submitting this FMR ;)



From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:36:44 +0200

Another Hmm.

I'd still like to see that better configured that putting it into the AD if
the infos are already there (or configurable). We could request to make it
default to log that kind of info. And as far as we are talking about 
looking

into every server: Where's ACS? And also SNMP would be an option to get
notified on a single system instead of looking into every DC.

Ulf

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
|Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:10 AM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
|
|I'll see your Eurocents and add raise you two. :)
|
|I fully understand where you're coming from Ulf.  Adding this
|information into the DIT when it is currently possible to get
|is something that grates against common sense and common
|engineering principles even if you subscribe to belts and
|braces methodologies.
|
|However, I think two things make this a worthwhile request
|with a big payoff.  First to Laura's point about diminishing
|returns.  I agree, at some point there will be diminishing
|returns.  I also believe that as hardware gets bigger (i.e.
|Standard 80 GB hard drives, 1 GB memory in workstation
|machines, etc. [1]) the bar gets raised until we get to the
|diminishing return.  Since we're targeting 80/20 out of the
|box [2] it seems reasonable that 80% of the deployments would
|benefit from such a change. The other 20 would be those that
|a) don't care or know about such things and b) those that
|can't tolerate the additional overhead and therefore wouldn't
|want to deploy it.  I say tough pickles to them.  :)
|Seriously, this could be on by default but configurable (group
|policy?) to disable it as a performance issue etc.
|
|Second, I think that the major benefit is the ability to
|actually get usable information native to the product vs.
|having to invest in a third party product. Why?  Because today
|in order to get that information I have to have something that
|scrapes the Security logs looking for such information.  Is
|this a good idea?  I think it is.  Is it something that could
|be native?  I think it could and should be native if
|technically feasible.
|
|Making us look in a particular DC's event logs is more
|difficult than it should be without yet another product.
|That's fine for the really large companies that have deeper
|pockets, and larger needs.  For the small to medium
|businesses, it should not be so difficult nor should it
|*require* SQL licensing or expertise.
|
|
|
|[1] I'm not saying that the quality has kept up, only that the
|hardware is bigger, faster, stronger and cheaper.
|[2] I'm making that up, but it sounds reasonable
|
|
|
|
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B.
|Simon-Weidner
|Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:42 PM
|To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
|Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
|
|
|Hmm.
|
|Do we really want to excuse prior failure of proper auditing
|by putting more data into AD? Wouldn't that lead into every
|request of non-configured auditing to requests for extending
|the AD? Do it right the first way.
|
|I completely agree that we should make the people more
|auditing aware, and it would be great to have a centralized
|auditing together with some force of configuration instead of
|the per server events and auditing which is rearly configured.
|
|However I'm not sure if I want this kind of data in the AD.
|
|Just my Eurocents.
|
|Ulf
|
||-Original Message-
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura E.
||Hunter
||Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:28 PM
||To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
||Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
||
||Various thoughts from this thread:
||
||[1] I agree with Al and Paul[1] on a desire for that sort of
|metadata.
||I'm not as convinced of the trade-off value of bloating the DIT for
||full undelete information, particularly in monster big environments.
||For my teeny-tiny single domain 

Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

2005-10-17 Thread Al Mulnick

Is there a line?  'Cause if there's a line, I'd just like to know :)

Regarding this thread.  I have to say it's interesting to see the many sides 
differences based on experience and scale.  But I think to bring this back a 
bit, I'm not sure that the SBS concept can work as well in the scaled up 
version.  Here's what I mean: if I get an email from each DC, that's just as 
bad (almost) as if I went out and got the information manually.  It's just 
that I pushed the information vs. pulled it.  We blurred this a bit when we 
brought in the event logs for the audit information, but I think the concept 
we originally started to look at was surrounding the information regarding 
who deleted an object.  That information is collected by the system and may 
be logged in the security log if the settings are so configured. The 
difference is whether we use a push or a pull model.  A pull model is very 
inefficient, but push is pretty inefficient as well as we scale up.  What 
makes more sense *so I thought before talking to bldg 7 Garage door opener* 
was that we could tag the deleted item with the sid or similar on the 
deleted object upon deletion.  That allows it to replicate to all DC's and 
keeps the information with the relevant object.


Having to deploy a third party product or reskit utility or ?? is not my 
idea of being able to keep this information where it should be.  I also 
think putting the information on the object, could lead to additional 
products related to reanimation.


I think so anyway.

*just curious who's listening. I've heard he can close the door as well.


From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:48:52 -0700

I give carte blanche to folks to wack me upside the head if I get too 
annoying.   :-)


Rick Kingslan wrote:


Susan,

Really - I know you too well.  You're not going to lurk.  Get in the game.
It appears most folks want to hear what you have to say from the Small
Business arena.  And, if it broadens the message of managing and 
maintaining

the systems - it's good for all.

Just please - stop convincing yourself you're lurking  You're aren't!
You're too valuable to do so...

:o)

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, 
CPA

aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

sorry .. I know...I know...lurk..lurk

The consultant crowd who can't handle 300 SBS boxes hitting their inbox at 
6 a.m have asked for a dashboard.   I can handle a daily email they 
can't.


At a NTuser group meeting I was at ...some of the dashboard tools in Linux
were discussed.  Nagios in particular was one they used for monitoring.

Monitoring -- MRTG: The Multi Router Traffic Grapher:
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html

Graphical console for Snort - Analysis Console for Intrusion Databases
(ACID):
http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/

Intrustion detection -  Snort.org:
http://www.snort.org/

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/

Traffic probe - ntop - network top:
http://www.ntop.org/head.html



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:




Yup information overload 'is' a problem.

And then after the scale its... okay what the heck is the server trying 
to tell me?


I'm still a fan of www.eventid.net over microsoft.com's click here.

Rick Kingslan wrote:



And, as you know that does work well in SBSland.  However, when the 
scale grows, so do the requirements.  IN the Medium to Enterprise space, 
the idea is more along the lines of a system or series of systems 
pumping this type of information into paging and making intelligent 
decisions based on the audit, event, alerts, services, etc.


Which, is right where MOM 2005 drops into the picture.  If it _IS_ the 
event aggregator, or if it's pushing up to a bigger overall item such as 
HP OpenView - that data is available.  It's just that instead of getting 
an e-mail per server (most admins would just begin to create a rule to 
send these to DEV/NUL after a while...) MOM collects, enforces and 
reports this same type of information.


Scale makes the problem much tougher, as I'm sure you can imagine

Rick [msft]
--
Posting is provided AS IS, and confers no rights or warranties ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, 
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Knowing when users were deleted.

here she goes again.. I know ... I'm terrible at lurking

In SBSland we have a daily monitoring email [well ... I send it daily 

RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

2005-10-17 Thread Derek Harris
I've always had better luck with WMI. YMMV 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Which method is preferred, WSH or WMI? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Lissoir
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:01 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Look at http://www.lissware.net, Volume 1, Sample 1.01 to 1.25 -
WSHScript.vbs, which uses a series of functions.
In this list of functions, you will find two generic routines to play
with:
ReadRegistryFunction.vbs and WriteRegistryFunction.vbs.

With these two, you are all set. I reproed the ReadRegistry one below.
Note that from the WSH object model, RegWrite method does not support
REG_MULTI_SZ.
If you need to update REG_MULTI_SZ, you need to use the WMI model. For
this see http://www.lissware.net, Vol 2, Sample 3.03 to 3.09 -
WMIRegistry.wsf (Second code exerpt below).

HTH.

' Author: Alain Lissoir ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'
' ISBN 182664 - Understanding WMI Scripting (Digital Press)

' ISBN 182990 - Leveraging WMI Scripting (Digital Press)


' WSH Technique



Private Function ReadRegistry (objFileName, strKeyName, KeyValueName,
strRegType)

Dim strRegKey
Dim varRegKeyValue()

Dim intIndice
Dim strTempValue

On Error Resume Next

strRegKey = strKeyName  \  KeyValueName
WriteToFile objFileName, ** Reading registry '  strRegKey 
'(
 strRegType  ).

strTempValue = WshShell.RegRead (strRegKey)
If Err.Number Then
   ErrorHandler objFileName, ReadRegistry, Err, boolErrorPopup
   Exit Function
End If

Select Case strRegType
   Case REG_BINARY
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) = h  Right(00 
Hex(strTempValue(intIndice)), 2)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)
 )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_DWORD
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = h  Hex (strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) =
strTempValue(intIndice)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)
 )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) =
WshShell.ExpandEnvironmentStrings
(strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case Else
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = strTempValue
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
End Select

ReadRegistry = varRegKeyValue

End Function

' WMI technique
--
Select Case intKeyType
   Case REG_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetStringValue (intHiveType, _
strBaseKey, _
strKeyName, _
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetMultiStringValue
(intHiveType, _
 strBaseKey,
_
 strKeyName,
_
 
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetExpandedStringValue
(intHiveType,
_
 
strBaseKey,
_
 
strKeyName,
_
 
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_BINARY
intRC = objWMIClass.SetBinaryValue (intHiveType, _
strBaseKey, _
strKeyName, _
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_DWORD
intRC = objWMIClass.SetDWORDValue (intHiveType, _
   

RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

2005-10-17 Thread Freddy HARTONO
Patched another one of my production DC yesterday via windows update instead
of updateexpert and - same issues with the dell server (strangely). Had to
do shutdown /r /f via rcmd to get it back online.

However the other domain controller with updateexpert is rebooting fine..

Will be doing mass patching soon, hopefully this isnt going to be reoccuring
:(


Thank you and have a splendid day!

Kind Regards,

Freddy Hartono
Group Support Engineer
InternationalSOS Pte Ltd
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65) 6330-9740 - temp

-Original Message-
From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:52 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

Hi Steven/Freddy/Douglas,
   This time the server is a Compaq, running with an Intel(R) PRO/1000 XF
Server Adapter, no DRAC-type cards, RAID-controller is builtin.  Some
Googling did bring up some hits regarding Exchange and I wonder what kind of
communication breakdown happens between a GC that wants to shutdown and an
Exchange client (ie, Outlook) that is currently using this GC for GAL
information.  Maybe our AD/Exchange experts can throw some light on this.

Mike Thommes

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Presley, Steven
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:32 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

Well you are definitely not alone.  Something like this just happened to me
while patching my Exchange clusters (only happened to 1 out of 18, so its
pretty rare).  After patching and telling the passive node to reboot it was
completely inaccessible even after 15 minutes (normally it does not take
this long to reboot).  I could not ping or TS into the box.
iLO was my life saver though.  Connected with iLO and no hung services,
nothing funny in the event log...just was not network accessible (even on
the private network with its partner node).  Had to reboot it via iLO (using
the standard start\shutdown procedure..no cold boot required) and it
eventually went down and came back up happy.  I hope there is not some
gremlin in the recent round of patches that is going to stick its head out
when the clock strikes midnight.

Best regards,
Steven

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M.
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:56 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

Hi Susan,
 Thanks for the response.  No UPS issues.  Checked the services remotely
and didn't find anything unusual.  The DC did finally reboot on its own
shortly after I sent out my first message - about 2 hours after the original
patching and message saying it wanted to reboot and I clicked OK.  The event
logs showed nothing of any consequence, just a big (2 hour) gap in the
system event log entries (between the entry saying it initiated shutdown and
the entry saying the system was coming
back up).   The security log showed no gaps at all.  Am I the only one
that sees this kind of behavior on W2K3/SP1 servers?  I normally don't use
the /console switch when I TS in (eg, mstsc.exe /console).  I wonder if
that could speed the process up.
 
Mike Thommes



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Susan Bradley, CPA aka
Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sat 10/15/2005 3:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC



APC UPS's and you don't have the latest ver on there?
HP with a UPS?

Can you get into services and see if something is 'stopping'?

Got any ILO ability there [or suitable other remote techniques]?

Thommes, Michael M. wrote:

So I have remotely (TS connection) applied the latest Windows patches 
to one of my DCs.  Patches went on fine.  Said it needed to reboot.  I 
clicked Restart.  And two hours later, it still has not rebooted, but

it did terminate the TS session.  I have tried to kick it via a 
shutdown /f /r command from another DC.  Still no luck.  Issue same 
command remotely with the big Kahuna account, and it says a shutdown is

in progress.  It appears to still be serving up clients, e.g., no 
discernable ill effects.  I have seen this periodically in the past 
with other servers.  Anyone have any comments/thoughts are this 
irritating, weekend sigh activity?  TIA!

Mike Thommes
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RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

2005-10-17 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
Hi Freddy,
   Thanks for the feedback!  I hope your mass patching goes well.  It's
a lot easier to notice this kind of stuff when you're doing one-sies
where you can keep track of a server's connectivity during a reboot with
a repeating ping.  Be aware of the issues brought forth by MS05-051
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=909444).  I will be interested in
your experiences.  Thanks.

Mike Thommes 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy HARTONO
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:14 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

Patched another one of my production DC yesterday via windows update
instead
of updateexpert and - same issues with the dell server (strangely). Had
to
do shutdown /r /f via rcmd to get it back online.

However the other domain controller with updateexpert is rebooting
fine..

Will be doing mass patching soon, hopefully this isnt going to be
reoccuring
:(


Thank you and have a splendid day!

Kind Regards,

Freddy Hartono
Group Support Engineer
InternationalSOS Pte Ltd
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65) 6330-9740 - temp

-Original Message-
From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:52 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

Hi Steven/Freddy/Douglas,
   This time the server is a Compaq, running with an Intel(R) PRO/1000
XF
Server Adapter, no DRAC-type cards, RAID-controller is builtin.  Some
Googling did bring up some hits regarding Exchange and I wonder what
kind of
communication breakdown happens between a GC that wants to shutdown and
an
Exchange client (ie, Outlook) that is currently using this GC for GAL
information.  Maybe our AD/Exchange experts can throw some light on
this.

Mike Thommes

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Presley, Steven
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:32 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

Well you are definitely not alone.  Something like this just happened to
me
while patching my Exchange clusters (only happened to 1 out of 18, so
its
pretty rare).  After patching and telling the passive node to reboot it
was
completely inaccessible even after 15 minutes (normally it does not take
this long to reboot).  I could not ping or TS into the box.
iLO was my life saver though.  Connected with iLO and no hung services,
nothing funny in the event log...just was not network accessible (even
on
the private network with its partner node).  Had to reboot it via iLO
(using
the standard start\shutdown procedure..no cold boot required) and it
eventually went down and came back up happy.  I hope there is not some
gremlin in the recent round of patches that is going to stick its head
out
when the clock strikes midnight.

Best regards,
Steven

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes,
Michael M.
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:56 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC

Hi Susan,
 Thanks for the response.  No UPS issues.  Checked the services
remotely
and didn't find anything unusual.  The DC did finally reboot on its own
shortly after I sent out my first message - about 2 hours after the
original
patching and message saying it wanted to reboot and I clicked OK.  The
event
logs showed nothing of any consequence, just a big (2 hour) gap in the
system event log entries (between the entry saying it initiated shutdown
and
the entry saying the system was coming
back up).   The security log showed no gaps at all.  Am I the only one
that sees this kind of behavior on W2K3/SP1 servers?  I normally don't
use
the /console switch when I TS in (eg, mstsc.exe /console).  I wonder
if
that could speed the process up.
 
Mike Thommes



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Susan Bradley, CPA
aka
Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sat 10/15/2005 3:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC



APC UPS's and you don't have the latest ver on there?
HP with a UPS?

Can you get into services and see if something is 'stopping'?

Got any ILO ability there [or suitable other remote techniques]?

Thommes, Michael M. wrote:

So I have remotely (TS connection) applied the latest Windows patches 
to one of my DCs.  Patches went on fine.  Said it needed to reboot.  I 
clicked Restart.  And two hours later, it still has not rebooted, but

it did terminate the TS session.  I have tried to kick it via a 
shutdown /f /r command from another DC.  Still no luck.  Issue same 
command remotely with the big Kahuna account, and it says a shutdown is

in progress.  It appears to still be serving up clients, e.g., no 
discernable ill effects.  I have seen this periodically in 

RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

2005-10-17 Thread Alain Lissoir
I meant if you are Windows 2000 and above ... 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Lissoir
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:12 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

If you are Windows and above and don't need REG_MULTI_SZ updates, I would go
for WSH (pretty simple model).
If you need to do more complex stuffs, I would use WMI (which is actually
used from WSH as it is the scripting engine).

/Alain 

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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Which method is preferred, WSH or WMI? 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Lissoir
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:01 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kix to VBS

Look at http://www.lissware.net, Volume 1, Sample 1.01 to 1.25 -
WSHScript.vbs, which uses a series of functions.
In this list of functions, you will find two generic routines to play
with:
ReadRegistryFunction.vbs and WriteRegistryFunction.vbs.

With these two, you are all set. I reproed the ReadRegistry one below.
Note that from the WSH object model, RegWrite method does not support
REG_MULTI_SZ.
If you need to update REG_MULTI_SZ, you need to use the WMI model. For this
see http://www.lissware.net, Vol 2, Sample 3.03 to 3.09 - WMIRegistry.wsf
(Second code exerpt below).

HTH.

' Author: Alain Lissoir ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'
' ISBN 182664 - Understanding WMI Scripting (Digital Press)

' ISBN 182990 - Leveraging WMI Scripting (Digital Press)


' WSH Technique



Private Function ReadRegistry (objFileName, strKeyName, KeyValueName,
strRegType)

Dim strRegKey
Dim varRegKeyValue()

Dim intIndice
Dim strTempValue

On Error Resume Next

strRegKey = strKeyName  \  KeyValueName
WriteToFile objFileName, ** Reading registry '  strRegKey  '(
 strRegType  ).

strTempValue = WshShell.RegRead (strRegKey)
If Err.Number Then
   ErrorHandler objFileName, ReadRegistry, Err, boolErrorPopup
   Exit Function
End If

Select Case strRegType
   Case REG_BINARY
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) = h  Right(00 
Hex(strTempValue(intIndice)), 2)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_DWORD
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = h  Hex (strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(Ubound(strTempValue))
For intIndice = 0 to Ubound(strTempValue)
varRegKeyValue (intIndice) =
strTempValue(intIndice)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-   varRegKeyValue(intIndice)
Next

   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) =
WshShell.ExpandEnvironmentStrings
(strTempValue)
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
   Case Else
ReDim varRegKeyValue(0)
varRegKeyValue(0) = strTempValue
WriteToFile objFileName, _
strRegKey  (  UCase(strRegType)  )
-
  varRegKeyValue(0)
End Select

ReadRegistry = varRegKeyValue

End Function

' WMI technique
--
Select Case intKeyType
   Case REG_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetStringValue (intHiveType, _
strBaseKey, _
strKeyName, _
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_MULTI_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetMultiStringValue (intHiveType, _
 strBaseKey, _
 strKeyName, _
 
varKeyNameValue)
   Case REG_EXPAND_SZ
intRC = objWMIClass.SetExpandedStringValue
(intHiveType,
_
 
strBaseKey,
_
 
strKeyName,
_

[ActiveDir] AD/Group policy KBs

2005-10-17 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
The Register DNS records with connection-specific DNS suffix policy 
setting does not work correctly in Windows Server 2003:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=896615

A duplicate access control entry is added to child records in a DNS zone 
when you add security groups to the root of the DNS zone in Windows 
Server 2003:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=898613

TechNet Support WebCast: Configuring subnets for Active Directory sites 
in Windows Server 2003:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=909429


You receive a SV_PROBLEM_WILL_NOT_PERFORM error when you try to raise 
the domain functional level to Windows Server 2003 on a domain 
controller that is running Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=895139

A domain user may be unable to log on with cached credentials after an 
administrator unlocks a Windows XP-based workstation:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=888516

The Windows Security Center appears in English after you update the 
Group Policy settings in Windows XP:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=903242

When use the Group Policy Object Editor on a computer that is running 
Windows Server 2003 or Windows XP to change GPOs on a remote domain 
controller, the changes do not take affect for a long time:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=896669

The expiration date may be set incorrectly when you use Active Directory 
Services Interface (ADSI) to set the expiration date of a user account 
on a Windows XP-based computer:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=905199


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