timeout value for processes
Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Med vänlig hälsning Henrik Wahlstedt Statoil Phone: +46 8 429 6325 IT EH SE Torkel Knutssonsgatan 24 Mobile: +46 70 429 6325 118 88 Stockholm E-mail: Sverige [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.
Re: timeout value for processes
But that does not apply to automated libraries. I use TSM 4.1.3.0 on w2k and a STK9710 library with 6 DLT drives. tia Henrik Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDS.CO.IN cc: (bcc: Henrik Wahlstedt) Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 2002-12-18 09:58 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Henrik WahlstedtTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] shwl@STATOILcc: .COMSubject: timeout value for processes Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 12/18/2002 01:33 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Med vänlig hälsning Henrik Wahlstedt Statoil Phone: +46 8 429 6325 IT EH SE Torkel Knutssonsgatan 24 Mobile: +46 70 429 6325 118 88 Stockholm E-mail: Sverige [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.
Re: timeout value for processes
OK, I only used 'help upd devc' and looked at DLT. MOUNTWait Specifies the maximum number of minutes to wait for a sequential access volume to be mounted in a manual library. This parameter is optional and does not apply to automated libraries. If the mount request is not satisfied within the specified amount of time, the mount request is canceled. You can specify a number from 0 to . If it works its OK, but I had to ask. //Henrik John Naylor john.naylor@SCOTTISH-SOUTHTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ERN.CO.UK cc: (bcc: Henrik Wahlstedt) Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 10:11 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Never heard that mountwait does not apply to automated libraries, I have 2 STK automated libraries and mountwait does what it is supposed to. Henrik Wahlstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:06:58 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE) Subject: Re: timeout value for processes ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. ** But that does not apply to automated libraries. I use TSM 4.1.3.0 on w2k and a STK9710 library with 6 DLT drives. tia Henrik Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDS.CO.IN cc: (bcc: Henrik Wahlstedt) Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 2002-12-18 09:58 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Henrik WahlstedtTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] shwl@STATOILcc: .COMSubject: timeout value for processes Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 12/18/2002 01:33 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Med vänlig hälsning
Re: timeout value for processes
don't think so. It applies to all libraries.Plz check again regds Raghu Henrik WahlstedtTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] shwl@STATOILcc: .COMSubject: Re: timeout value for processes Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 12/18/2002 02:36 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager But that does not apply to automated libraries. I use TSM 4.1.3.0 on w2k and a STK9710 library with 6 DLT drives. tia Henrik Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDS.CO.IN cc: (bcc: Henrik Wahlstedt) Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 2002-12-18 09:58 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Henrik WahlstedtTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] shwl@STATOILcc: .COMSubject: timeout value for processes Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 12/18/2002 01:33 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Med vänlig hälsning Henrik Wahlstedt Statoil Phone: +46 8 429 6325 IT EH SE Torkel Knutssonsgatan 24 Mobile: +46 70 429 6325 118 88 Stockholm E-mail: Sverige [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.
Expiring Data / Versioning
Hi All Thanx in advance, new to this and not sure I've set this up correctly. I originally wanted to keep 7 versions and delete after 30 days any deleted files. I run TSM Server 5.1 and I'm trying to expire all my data down to only one copy of the data. My versions were set to 7 and the rest as shown, I changed it down to 3 and ran an inventory expire this made no changes. Have I setup my copy group incorrectly. I wish to finally setup the copy group to have seven days(not versions) backups and to only keep deleted files for a max of 30 days. Copy Group Name STANDARD Versions Data Exists 3 Versions Data Deleted 1 Retain Extra Versions 0 Retain Only Version 30 Copy Mode MODIFIED Copy Serialization DYNAMIC Copy Frequency 0 Kind Regards LAWRIE SCOTT For: Persetel/Q Vector KZN Company Registration Number: 1993/003683/07 Tel: +27 (0) 31 5609222 Fax: +27 (0) 31 5609495 Cell: +27 (0) 835568488 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notice: This message and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee. If any have received this message in error, please notify Lawrie Scott at Comparex Africa (Pty) Ltd immediately, telephone number +27 (0) 31 5609222. Any unauthorised use, alteration or dissemination is prohibited. Comparex Africa (Pty) Ltd accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss whether it be direct, indirect or consequential, arising from information made available and actions resulting there from.
Re: Expiring Data / Versioning
did you activate the policy set after updating copy group? ( just for confirmation ) regards Raghu. Lawrie Scott - Persetel Q Vector To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LawrieS@COMPAREXAFRcc: ICA.CO.ZA Subject: Expiring Data / Versioning Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] U 12/18/2002 03:51 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi All Thanx in advance, new to this and not sure I've set this up correctly. I originally wanted to keep 7 versions and delete after 30 days any deleted files. I run TSM Server 5.1 and I'm trying to expire all my data down to only one copy of the data. My versions were set to 7 and the rest as shown, I changed it down to 3 and ran an inventory expire this made no changes. Have I setup my copy group incorrectly. I wish to finally setup the copy group to have seven days(not versions) backups and to only keep deleted files for a max of 30 days. Copy Group Name STANDARD Versions Data Exists 3 Versions Data Deleted 1 Retain Extra Versions 0 Retain Only Version 30 Copy Mode MODIFIED Copy Serialization DYNAMIC Copy Frequency 0 Kind Regards LAWRIE SCOTT For: Persetel/Q Vector KZN Company Registration Number: 1993/003683/07 Tel: +27 (0) 31 5609222 Fax: +27 (0) 31 5609495 Cell: +27 (0) 835568488 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notice: This message and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee. If any have received this message in error, please notify Lawrie Scott at Comparex Africa (Pty) Ltd immediately, telephone number +27 (0) 31 5609222. Any unauthorised use, alteration or dissemination is prohibited. Comparex Africa (Pty) Ltd accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss whether it be direct, indirect or consequential, arising from information made available and actions resulting there from.
Re: timeout value for processes
The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Re: timeout value for processes
I believe the Process should be completed with Failure status , if the mount request was cancelled or timed out. ( i thinks its TSM internal.May be Raibeck can answer this better ) Regds raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Why Magstar MP 3570 C02/C12/C22 are called as Tape drives?
Hi Why IBM categorized Magstar MP 3570 C02/C12/C22 as Tape Drive. Why not as Library? It has 2 drives, 20 slots, barcode reader, etc.. I haven't worked on it, just came across reading Library and Tape drive Specs. Thanks Regards Raghu.
Non IBM Libarary for TSM
Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Antwort: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
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Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
Hi I'm not sure about the pricing but HP have good small libraries. I use an old DLT7000 system that works great. Maybe look at some libraries and then check the TSM site for compatibility. Lawrie -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2002 01:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
Try comparing the IBM3583, with the same libraries from Dell (can't remember name) and Adic (Scalar100). I don't know, but there could be a few bucks to save. I believe that Adic have quit a few other libraries in their series. You also have Compaqs MSL5026 (very scalable - OEM'ed from Overland), StorageTek L20,L40,80,L180,L700(I have best experience with the larger ones - L180 and up). Back to what's good and not - check Tivolis site for Supported Devices http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/requirements.html and check the libraries/drives mentioned there. Rgds. Geirr Halvorsen -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18. december 2002 12:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
This is one of the prides of TSM - support for many devices. Better approach (IMO) would be to find a reliable vendor in your area and check their appropriate and attractive products for (I)TSM support. Most of the time it will be supported and if is something brand new few months later it usually becomes also supported. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.12.2002 13:44 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Re: Why Magstar MP 3570 C02/C12/C22 are called as Tape drives?
Actually they call them Tape Subsystem. Only 3570-B1A is called Tape Drive. And the categorization is because they can be attached to 3575 Tape Library Dataservers. Somewhat similar to the difference of 3590-x1A and 3590-x11. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.12.2002 13:36 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Why Magstar MP 3570 C02/C12/C22 are called as Tape drives? Hi Why IBM categorized Magstar MP 3570 C02/C12/C22 as Tape Drive. Why not as Library? It has 2 drives, 20 slots, barcode reader, etc.. I haven't worked on it, just came across reading Library and Tape drive Specs. Thanks Regards Raghu.
IBM/Tivoli Support Disk
Hi TSM'ers About 10months ago IBM/Tivoli offered a CD filled with troubleshooting tips and resolutions to TSM problems. It was available to the general public and could be purchased via the Tivoli web site. At that time my company did not deal with TSM so we did not see the need to purchase it. Now however we have a need for the disk and would like to buy it but I can not seem to find it anywhere on the web site. Unfortunately we can not remember what the disk/product was called and I am hoping that this message might ring some bells with fellow TSM'ers. If you have any information that might be able to help it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Jason Stoessler Kingswell Data Management Limited
Re: Expiring Data / Versioning
Uhmmm, Lawrie, I don't think you will get what you want... Look at TSM as a big file cabinet with copies of files from other servers. A file in TSM is ACTIVE if it is the way it looked on the client during the last incremental (or selective) A file in TSM in INACTIVE if it isn't the way it looked on the client during the last incr/sel (which includes having been deleted from the client) Now, Versions Data Exists says how many copies of that file is kept in the TSM file cabinet as long as it still exists on the client. Versions Data Deleted says how many copies to immediately reduce down to as soon as the file is found to have been deleted from the client. Retain Extra says how long to keep INACTIVE copies (from the time they go inactive) Retain Only says how long to keep the LAST copy of a file that has been deleted from a client If you want to keep no more than 7 days you will need A) Versions Data Exists of 7 so if a file changes daily, you will have 7 on the 8th day the 1st day's copy will expire due to VDE 7 B) Retain Extra 7 so if a file only changes weekly, VDE won't expire because on day 8 you will only have 2 copies BUT the old copy will be 8 days old and will go away due to RE 7 C) Versions Data Deleted 7, to always have at least 7 copies/days D) Retain Only 30 to keep the last copy of a deleted file for 30 days (past its deletion) Personally I always make my Versions Data Deleted greater than one BECAUSE what if a disk is going bad and nobody notices. Say on night one is hoses up some of a file that is viewed as a change to that file ??? So TSM backs it up resulting in the active copy being bad... Now more errors on the disk make the file totally go away, a backup runs, and the file is marked deleted and during expiration TSM cuts down to the last copy, that BAD one made the night before ! ! ! YIKES !!! Personally I use VDE-7, VDD-3, RE-35, RO-95 which has kept the user community pretty happy over the years Dwight -Original Message- From: Lawrie Scott - Persetel Q Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Expiring Data / Versioning Hi All Thanx in advance, new to this and not sure I've set this up correctly. I originally wanted to keep 7 versions and delete after 30 days any deleted files. I run TSM Server 5.1 and I'm trying to expire all my data down to only one copy of the data. My versions were set to 7 and the rest as shown, I changed it down to 3 and ran an inventory expire this made no changes. Have I setup my copy group incorrectly. I wish to finally setup the copy group to have seven days(not versions) backups and to only keep deleted files for a max of 30 days. Copy Group Name STANDARD Versions Data Exists 3 Versions Data Deleted 1 Retain Extra Versions 0 Retain Only Version 30 Copy Mode MODIFIED Copy Serialization DYNAMIC Copy Frequency 0 Kind Regards LAWRIE SCOTT For: Persetel/Q Vector KZN Company Registration Number: 1993/003683/07 Tel: +27 (0) 31 5609222 Fax: +27 (0) 31 5609495 Cell: +27 (0) 835568488 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notice: This message and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee. If any have received this message in error, please notify Lawrie Scott at Comparex Africa (Pty) Ltd immediately, telephone number +27 (0) 31 5609222. Any unauthorised use, alteration or dissemination is prohibited. Comparex Africa (Pty) Ltd accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss whether it be direct, indirect or consequential, arising from information made available and actions resulting there from.
Re: Mangled administrator commands
Hello, I see the same thing with client 5.1.5.2 on Windows 2000 and server 5.1.1.6 on AIX. The strange thing is that it started a few days ago. It may have started in conjunction with applying a few MS patches to Windows. But I'm absolutely not sure. Best regards Gerhard --- Gerhard Rentschleremail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regional Computing Center tel. ++49/711/685 5806 University of Stuttgart fax: ++49/711/682357 Allmandring 30a D 70550 Stuttgart Germany
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas?
synthetic fullbackup
We are looking for a solution for the following problem: During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time. Disk as a primary STGPool is too expensive. Now we are looking for methods to 'cluster together' all active backup_versions per node without backing up the whole TSM-client every night (like VERITAS NetbackUp). Ideally the full_backup should be done in the TSM-server (starting with an initial full_backup, then combining the full_backup and the incrementals from next run to build the next synthetic full_backup and so on). We already have activated COLLOCATE. Has anybody good ideas? thanks, werner
Re: Is there a tsm client that will run on a sequent box DYNIX/ptx(R) V4.4.4
Dwight, No, your not going blind. There is no TSM client that will run on DYNIX/ptx. Here is the URL that shows what platform are supported by TSM http://www.tivoli.com/products/index/storage-mgr/platforms.html Sias Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On, Cook, Dwight E ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I didn't see anything but I'm going blind in my old age... Is there any tsm client that will run on a Sequent box with DYNIX/ptx(R) V4.4.4 Dwight
Re: synthetic fullbackup
Hi Werner, we might need some clearifying of your setup. What is your server version? Are you backing up to tape, or disk? Generally I can say this: If you are running TSM v. 5.x you have the possibility to use MOVE NODEDATA, which moves data for one node to another storagepool (from tape to disk), and then start your restore from the diskpool. It may sound strange, because you move the data twice, but often, you have a delay between the time you decide to restore, until you actually start the restore (f.ex. in a disaster recovery situation, where you have to get new hardware, install OS + TSM client software, before you start the restore). In this interval, you can start to move data from tape to disk, and the subsequent restore will be alot faster. The other possibility is to use collocation by filespace. Different filespaces from the same server will be collocated on different tapes, enabling you to simultaneously start a restore for each filespace. This helps reducing restore times. Third option is using backupsets, which can be created just for active files. Then you will have all active files on one volume. Others may also have an opinion on best approach to solve this. I have just pointed out some of TSM's features. Rgds. Geirr Halvorsen -Original Message- From: Schwarz Werner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18. december 2002 14:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: synthetic fullbackup We are looking for a solution for the following problem: During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time. Disk as a primary STGPool is too expensive. Now we are looking for methods to 'cluster together' all active backup_versions per node without backing up the whole TSM-client every night (like VERITAS NetbackUp). Ideally the full_backup should be done in the TSM-server (starting with an initial full_backup, then combining the full_backup and the incrementals from next run to build the next synthetic full_backup and so on). We already have activated COLLOCATE. Has anybody good ideas? thanks, werner
MAXNUMMP question
Hello all, I have a question regarding the node parameter MAXNUMMP. Does this affect only tape mounts or does it affect sequential file mounts also? The reason I ask is that on several NT servers that have more than one partition I set the dsm.opt parameter resourceutilization to a number of 1 + the number of partitions thinking that it would run multiple sessions, one for each partition. Now all my nodes are set for MAXNUMMP = 1 which is the default. Would this parameter limit the number of sequential mount points for these nodes to 1 thereby negating the resourceutilization parameter? TIA, Mark Remeta Seligman Data Corp. 100 Park Avenue New York, NY 10017 Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately.
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill up. any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas?
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
yes, its at ML 10. -Original Message- From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible You didn't mention the Maint Level of AIX 4.3.3. If you have less than ML 10, then I would upgrade to that as one step. David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/17/02 05:15PM How strange.. I just went through something similar. Running on AIX 4.3.3, TSM 4.2.1.7. What are you running? The short answer was to reboot the AIX operating system, and everything started working fine.. The long answer follows (well, not really an answer, just my situation, and what I tried to resolve it). Server AIX 4.3.3 TSM 4.2.1.7 Nodes W2K Storage Agent 4.2.1.7 BA Client 4.2.1.32 TDP for SQL 2.2 SQL 2000 and WinNT4 Storage Agent 4.2.1.7 BA Client 4.2.1.15 TDP for SQL 1.1 SQL 6.5 Relevant TSM server storage as follows... diskpool_sql_meta (no next storage pool intended only for the */.../meta/.../* info) diskpool_sql (next storage pool is ltotape_sql, intended for smaller databases) ltotape_sql (collocation of FILESPACE since /stripes=2 backups are kept here) The SQL 2000 server had been having issues over the last few months where backups to ltotape_sql with /stripes=2 of a 265GB database would fail with a server media mount no possible error, but /stripes=1 differential backups would back up fine. Oddly, increasing the Maximum Mount Points for the node by one would allow the /stripes=2 backup to succeed, but the next time a /stripes=2 backup would run, it would fail (until I increased the MMP again). I had 5 drives, all free and unused and 7 MMP for the node when... this new wrinkle occurred. The SQL 6.5 server started having problems backing up certain databases: the smaller system databases; master, model, msdb, pubs, tempdb, with and error message of server media mount not possible. All the DBs on this server have a destination of ltotape_sql. Like you, plenty of room in the storage pool, plenty of scratch. Called support Got level one.. told him a few things.. he didn't even want to try it.. and immediately escalated to level two. While I waited for a call back from level two, the following occurred. I noticed that there are some databases in diskpool_sql that haven't migrated to ltotape_sql. Kicking off a migration gets a similar error message media mount not possible, which, oddly, is the same message I got from the storage agent when backing up tapes to ltotape_sql. I carefully detailed what it took to migrate those 3 files from diskpool_sql to ltotape_sql, which is a whole other chapter by itself, involving changing maxscratch up and down, moving data, and a few other hoops, and I was unable to get some tapes to move with a move data command (tapes that had only one master or msdb or tempdb type database on them). Level two calls back. I go through the entire situation, including the fact of the Max Mount Point having to change every time I did I /stirpes=2 backup (I wasn't sure if that was a related issue or not). She is baffled, and wants to think it over and search databases etc to see what she can come up with. Within 30 mins, she calls back and asks me to reboot the TSM server's OS (uptime reported a whopping 82 days), just to see what would happen. I do. Migrations go. Backups /stripes=1 go. Backups /stripes=2 go (even with MMP set back to 4 for that node, instead of 7 ( with only 5 tape drives remember). This was Friday. Sunday night, the TSM server did something odd (haven't reported this to TSM support yet). It just stopped. It showed link status on the fiber cards, and network cards, but you couldn't ping it, the server console wouldn't wake up, nothing. Even the display on the front was dark, but the power light was on steady like it was operational, not flashing like it would be if you did a proper shutdown. I reset it Monday morning when I found it that way, and then had to do a clean shutdown and power on to get the fiber cards to see the library correctly. Very weird. So, I am taking Monday morning (yesterday) as the start time to see how long it takes until I have to increase my MMP on the one node just to get a /stripes=2 backup. The saga continues... Conko, Steven To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: M Fax to: Sent by: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 12/17/2002 03:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E
Re: 3584 library loading
I've built a simple perl script that I run after filling the I/O station. It issues the checkin command, looks for and responds to the 'reply nnn' message, and then updates the status of each tape as it checks in to readwrite. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: Matt Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3584 library loading At 15:54 -0500 12/17/02, David Longo wrote: I would also point out to the original issuer of this discussion that if having more than 10 tapes is a problem, you can upgrade to a 30 slot I/O station, We have the 30 slot station .. but it still doesn't improve the process. The ACSLS approach is so much nicer: If somebody puts tapes in the entry slots, they get stashed in the library. That makes life much simpler for the operational staff. The system can figure out what to do with them later. But having to enter a bunch of commands just to get tapes entered into the library makes no sense. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem. Thanks, Rob. From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill up. any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas?
Re: Is there a tsm client that will run on a sequent box DYNIX/ptx(R) V4.4.4
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Sias Dealy wrote: No, your not going blind. Maybe you both are looking wrong direction :) There is no TSM client that will run on DYNIX/ptx. There is. Here is the URL that shows what platform are supported by TSM http://www.tivoli.com/products/index/storage-mgr/platforms.html Here are the urls with TSM client for Dynix/Numaq: ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/client/v4r2/NUMAQ-PTX/ ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/client/v4r1/NUMAQ-PTX/ ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/client/v3r7/Sequent45/ ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/adsm/fixes/v3r1/sequent/ On, Cook, Dwight E ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I didn't see anything but I'm going blind in my old age... Is there any tsm client that will run on a Sequent box with DYNIX/ptx(R) V4.4.4 The ADSM version 3.1 client should work with this Dynix version. The only question is interoperability with current server versions. TSM versions 3.7 and above work only on Dynix/NumaQ 4.5.x (according to README). -- rado b Why Did You Reboot That Machine?
Moving data between directorys
I have a site that has had a clients directory structure restructured without notifying me. This directory structure has over 2 Terabytes of information in it. I found this out when my nightly backup choked. Is there any way that I can move data that has been backed up perviously to the new directory structure without having to re back it up? Jacque
Re: Is there a tsm client that will run on a sequent box DYNIX/ptx(R) V4.4.4
Found it ! Thanks ! that's what I get for only looking at 5.1 stuff :-( Dwight -Original Message- From: Radoslav Bendik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there a tsm client that will run on a sequent box DYNIX/ptx(R) V4.4.4 On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Sias Dealy wrote: No, your not going blind. Maybe you both are looking wrong direction :) There is no TSM client that will run on DYNIX/ptx. There is. Here is the URL that shows what platform are supported by TSM http://www.tivoli.com/products/index/storage-mgr/platforms.html Here are the urls with TSM client for Dynix/Numaq: ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/ client/v4r2/NUMAQ-PTX/ ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/ client/v4r1/NUMAQ-PTX/ ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/ client/v3r7/Sequent45/ ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/adsm/fixes/v3r1/sequent/ On, Cook, Dwight E ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I didn't see anything but I'm going blind in my old age... Is there any tsm client that will run on a Sequent box with DYNIX/ptx(R) V4.4.4 The ADSM version 3.1 client should work with this Dynix version. The only question is interoperability with current server versions. TSM versions 3.7 and above work only on Dynix/NumaQ 4.5.x (according to README). -- rado b Why Did You Reboot That Machine?
Re: synthetic fullbackup
We are looking for a solution for the following problem: During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time... Werner - As Geirr said, Backupsets are the optimal solution but, as all solutions, will require extra processing time. Another approach is to exploit the often-unexploited MIGDelay value, on the primary tape storage pool. Try to match that value to your dominant Copy Group retention value, and migrate older files to a next, tape storage pool, and let reclamation naturally bring bring newer files closer together. This should get inactive versions out of the way. The cost is extra tape data movement. There is no ideal solution. Opportune full backups (weekend?) will get you closest to what you want. Richard Sims, BU
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same spot with the media mount not possible. -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem. Thanks, Rob. From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill up. any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas?
AW: synthetic fullbackup
Hi, thanks a lot for your tips. With all of your mentioned hints we go to the right direction. But I think that there is still room for doing it better (VERITAS for ex. has to de-DUPLEX their tapes after the backup_process to be able for an acceptable fast restore). Our envir: - TSM Server: 4.2.2.3 on zOS 1.2 (we plan to migrate to TSM 5.1) - STGPool(s): virtual tapes (Virtual Storage Manager from STK) - we are backing up to tape (if all ACTIVE versions are on disk, the problem of scattered versions may be not serious for restores (?)) remarks for MOVE NODEDATA: I think ALL versions are moved - we need quite a lot of storage if we maintain many versions. thanks very much werner -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Halvorsen Geirr Gulbrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2002 14:44 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: synthetic fullbackup Hi Werner, we might need some clearifying of your setup. What is your server version? Are you backing up to tape, or disk? Generally I can say this: If you are running TSM v. 5.x you have the possibility to use MOVE NODEDATA, which moves data for one node to another storagepool (from tape to disk), and then start your restore from the diskpool. It may sound strange, because you move the data twice, but often, you have a delay between the time you decide to restore, until you actually start the restore (f.ex. in a disaster recovery situation, where you have to get new hardware, install OS + TSM client software, before you start the restore). In this interval, you can start to move data from tape to disk, and the subsequent restore will be alot faster. The other possibility is to use collocation by filespace. Different filespaces from the same server will be collocated on different tapes, enabling you to simultaneously start a restore for each filespace. This helps reducing restore times. Third option is using backupsets, which can be created just for active files. Then you will have all active files on one volume. Others may also have an opinion on best approach to solve this. I have just pointed out some of TSM's features. Rgds. Geirr Halvorsen -Original Message- From: Schwarz Werner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18. december 2002 14:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: synthetic fullbackup We are looking for a solution for the following problem: During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time. Disk as a primary STGPool is too expensive. Now we are looking for methods to 'cluster together' all active backup_versions per node without backing up the whole TSM-client every night (like VERITAS NetbackUp). Ideally the full_backup should be done in the TSM-server (starting with an initial full_backup, then combining the full_backup and the incrementals from next run to build the next synthetic full_backup and so on). We already have activated COLLOCATE. Has anybody good ideas? thanks, werner
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
IBM OEM's an HP library that IBM calls the 3600, that will use either DLT or LTO. They start at 2 drives/20 slots, and go up to 6 drives/60 slots. They are supported by TSM, but I have no personal experience with them. Regards, -Lloyd On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:14:47 +0530 Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Registered Linux User 285528 Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:585-389-1260fax:585-389-1267 -
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
Does it fail on the same file or directory every time, and does that file or directory attract a management class which is pointing to a different storage pool Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 02:29:12 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE) Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same spot with the media mount not possible. -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem. Thanks, Rob. From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill up. any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas? ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
yes, it is always failing on the same file(s) in the same directory. how would it attract a different management class? this is using the default management class and we dont have any includes or excludes set up. -Original Message- From: John Naylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Does it fail on the same file or directory every time, and does that file or directory attract a management class which is pointing to a different storage pool Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 02:29:12 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE) Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same spot with the media mount not possible. -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem. Thanks, Rob. From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill up. any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas? ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Re: TDP for Informix - management classes
Hi, Can someone with experience of TDP for Informix advise on an effective strategy for expiring old backups. As far as I know there is no neat way to expire logical logs, since every logical logs has its own unique name. It would be a good solution if you could delete backup files on the TSM server. Under srver version 5.1 there is a Backup Delete Allowed? property of the client nodes, that suggests this can be done,but I couldn't find how to. If someone knows how to do this, please tell me. :) perhaps someone could confirm if level 0 backups have unique names too or if the same name is used each time). No, they don't have unique names, so expiration works good for database chunks. It's surprising the TDP for Informix Installation and User's Guide doesn't discuss this. Or have I missed a really useful readme somewhere? No, you didn't miss anything. TDP for Informix is very poorly documentated. (I mean there is a lot of stuff on how to install, but there is almost nothing on how to use..) Sincerely, Imre Csatlos
Re: Is there a tsm client that will run on a sequent box DYNIX/pt x(R) V4.4.4
Dwight, We are running TSM client on our Dynix/ptx The TSM client is: Version 3, Release 1, Level 0.8 The DYNIX/ptx: 4.0 V4.4.8 Also there is version 4.1 and 4.1.1 available for download (Don't know the requirements): ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/cli ent/v4r1/NUMAQ-PTX/ It may be hard to get support for this product. Imre Csatlos
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
This HP library sounds very similar to the SUN L20/40/60 Library (Re-badged HP KIT) We have one using DLT and it functions ok. It has also remote management card also so you can administer the library, for the most part, from a web type interface. ADIC Scalars are also supported I think. Lloyd Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18-Dec-2002 14:35 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L cc: Subject:Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM IBM OEM's an HP library that IBM calls the 3600, that will use either DLT or LTO. They start at 2 drives/20 slots, and go up to 6 drives/60 slots. They are supported by TSM, but I have no personal experience with them. Regards, -Lloyd On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:14:47 +0530 Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Registered Linux User 285528 Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:585-389-1260fax:585-389-1267 -
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
On the client, do a 'dsmc show opt' and a 'dsmc q inclexcl' to check for stray management-class bindings that are different from your other working clients. If all your clients don't belong to a common domain, then check the server for missing copygroup definitions, incorrect target pool, target pool with no associated volume, and/or policysets that haven't been 'activate'd. Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18-Dec-2002 09:29 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L cc: Subject:Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same spot with the media mount not possible. -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem. Thanks, Rob. From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill up. any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas?
Re: synthetic fullbackup
Backupsets are the optimal solution In TSM v5, I've replaced my backupsets with MOVE NODE DATA as my preferred way of consolidating a node's backup data onto a minimum number of tapes. David
AW: synthetic fullbackup
Hi Richard thanks for your hints. We still hope on a solution that makes us happy. The idea with BackupSet is theoretically the closest one. But I heard from people with experince, that (i) its not so easy to restore a client with the newest backupversions and (ii) we have the time-problem moved to the process GENERATE BACKUPSET (collect/consolidate all newest versions). Regards, werner -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Richard Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2002 15:21 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: synthetic fullbackup We are looking for a solution for the following problem: During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time... Werner - As Geirr said, Backupsets are the optimal solution but, as all solutions, will require extra processing time. Another approach is to exploit the often-unexploited MIGDelay value, on the primary tape storage pool. Try to match that value to your dominant Copy Group retention value, and migrate older files to a next, tape storage pool, and let reclamation naturally bring bring newer files closer together. This should get inactive versions out of the way. The cost is extra tape data movement. There is no ideal solution. Opportune full backups (weekend?) will get you closest to what you want. Richard Sims, BU
Re: [Very OT] Can we cut out the me, toos
Hey guys, lighten up! And read what he said. Those of us forced to use poorly designed mailers might find it easier to have both addresses in the Reply-To field. Personally, I disagree, but I will do so politely. (And I can speak with authority about poorly designed mailers. I am forced not only to use Outlook, but some bright person disabled Reply All so that in my office we _have_ to cut and paste to carry out a group conversation.) Yes, people should think about who they are sending to. Yes, education might help, but awareness helps more. But a good mail client would make it easier. BTW, netiquette never was what it used to be (or at least it hasn't been since 1979). - Kai. Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again. -- James R. Cook -Original Message- From: Remco Post [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2002 4:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Very OT] Re: Can we cut out the me, toos (was Re: TSM Presentation) -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poster: Remco Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Very OT] Re: Can we cut out the me, toos (was Re: TSM Presentation) -- - On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:45:05 +0100 Gerhard Rentschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, probably a change in the listserv config of this mailing list may help. Each mail I get from this list has the list as reply address. For replying to the sender you have to cut the mail address from the mail and do a forward. This is the case at least with Outlook. It might help a little bit if with reply to all I could get both addresses, the list's and the sender's address. If I want to reply only to the sender, I could remove the list address. Best regards Gerhard So now the list is at fault when people choose to use e-mail clients that cannot behave. errr. Probably, people should start thinking about to who they send their emails, and what they send. Apart from me-toos, annoying behaviour includes the out-of-office autoreplys (perfreably to the list ;-) and the ~20 line standard disclaimer, which in itself is complete nonsense on any mailinglist, and probably even in normal person-to-person e-mail. Netiquette isn't what it used to be... :-)
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
everything checks out so far. now what i have done is a specific backup of just the directory it was failing on... dsmc incr /tibco/logs/ -subdir=yes that ran fine and when i ran the system wide backup again it got further and failed on another subdirectory of /tibco. i then did a backup of THAT directory and it was successful. then the system wide backup got further but failed in ANOTHER /tibco directory. so right now im piecemealing it together. i cant understand why it keeps failing on these subdirectories. some /tibco/... dirs work. some dont. -Original Message- From: Kent Monthei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible On the client, do a 'dsmc show opt' and a 'dsmc q inclexcl' to check for stray management-class bindings that are different from your other working clients. If all your clients don't belong to a common domain, then check the server for missing copygroup definitions, incorrect target pool, target pool with no associated volume, and/or policysets that haven't been 'activate'd. Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18-Dec-2002 09:29 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L cc: Subject:Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same spot with the media mount not possible. -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem. Thanks, Rob. From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill up. any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas?
Re: MAXNUMMP question
I have a question regarding the node parameter MAXNUMMP. Does this affect only tape mounts or does it affect sequential file mounts also? A good question. I don't know the answer, but those people who run the FILE-based DIRMC setup might know, as they're using this type of pool. Tab and the others: have you had to increase this value? Richard Foster Norsk Hydro
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
So are you saying that the management class that the directories are atracting is pointing them to the same disk storage pool which you said had plenty of space. ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Re: [Very OT] Can we cut out the me, toos
Kai, thanks for your message. I thought I was misunderstood because of my poor English. It is my observation that teaching people moral or netiquette is not very often successful. Telling people they should be careful with vacancy notices is as much noise as the Out of Office mails themselves. Either we can use thechnology to filter out unwanted messages or we will have to accept the unavoidable. Best regards Gerhard --- Gerhard Rentschleremail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regional Computing Center tel. ++49/711/685 5806 University of Stuttgart fax: ++49/711/682357 Allmandring 30a D 70550 Stuttgart Germany -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kai Hintze Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Very OT] Can we cut out the me, toos Hey guys, lighten up! And read what he said. Those of us forced to use poorly designed mailers might find it easier to have both addresses in the Reply-To field. Personally, I disagree, but I will do so politely. (And I can speak with authority about poorly designed mailers. I am forced not only to use Outlook, but some bright person disabled Reply All so that in my office we _have_ to cut and paste to carry out a group conversation.) Yes, people should think about who they are sending to. Yes, education might help, but awareness helps more. But a good mail client would make it easier. BTW, netiquette never was what it used to be (or at least it hasn't been since 1979). - Kai. Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again. -- James R. Cook -Original Message- From: Remco Post [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2002 4:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Very OT] Re: Can we cut out the me, toos (was Re: TSM Presentation) -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poster: Remco Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Very OT] Re: Can we cut out the me, toos (was Re: TSM Presentation) -- - On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:45:05 +0100 Gerhard Rentschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, probably a change in the listserv config of this mailing list may help. Each mail I get from this list has the list as reply address. For replying to the sender you have to cut the mail address from the mail and do a forward. This is the case at least with Outlook. It might help a little bit if with reply to all I could get both addresses, the list's and the sender's address. If I want to reply only to the sender, I could remove the list address. Best regards Gerhard So now the list is at fault when people choose to use e-mail clients that cannot behave. errr. Probably, people should start thinking about to who they send their emails, and what they send. Apart from me-toos, annoying behaviour includes the out-of-office autoreplys (perfreably to the list ;-) and the ~20 line standard disclaimer, which in itself is complete nonsense on any mailinglist, and probably even in normal person-to-person e-mail. Netiquette isn't what it used to be... :-)
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
yes, everything is going to the disk storage pool that has pleny of space. these systems dont use multiple management classes. -Original Message- From: John Naylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible So are you saying that the management class that the directories are atracting is pointing them to the same disk storage pool which you said had plenty of space. ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Atape Help
Envirnment: TSM 5.1.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10 Atape version:7.1.5.0 4 3590 drives in a 3494 The problem I'm having is I keep getting files called Atape.rmt#.dump_h# in /var/adm/ras. One time I was not paying close enough attention to available disk space on my TSM server these files filled up var!!! Are these normal or do they point to a problem? Does anybody else get these? If so do you just use a script to get rid of them? A while back I called IBM hardware they said it was an AIX problem. I called software they said it was a hardware problem. At this point I had more impotant things to worry about so I gave up on IBM! Thanks, --- Bruce Kamp Midrange Systems Analyst II Memorial Healthcare System E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597 Fax: (954) 985-1404 ---
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
Find a reseller who carries Overland Data libraries. The primary source of Overland libraries used to be Compaq, but since the HP/Compaq merger they are obviously going to only selling HP libraries. Overland's libraries scale very well in the midrange and are extremely cost competitive compared to HP, IBM, Adic, StorageTek, etc. They have been selling libraries for a long time and have a good track record and a lot of reference customers who use Tivoli. Dell also sells the smaller Adic libraries for a better price than IBM does, so you might consider them as an alternative to IBM. Eric -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
well, by using the piecemeal method of successfully individually backing up everything that failed i have finally been able to run a successfull system wide backup. strange. is it possible with a 1GB filesize limit on the diskpool that several files added up to more than 1 gb? would that cause a problem? -Original Message- From: Kent Monthei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible On the client, do a 'dsmc show opt' and a 'dsmc q inclexcl' to check for stray management-class bindings that are different from your other working clients. If all your clients don't belong to a common domain, then check the server for missing copygroup definitions, incorrect target pool, target pool with no associated volume, and/or policysets that haven't been 'activate'd. Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18-Dec-2002 09:29 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L cc: Subject:Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same spot with the media mount not possible. -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem. Thanks, Rob. From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill up. any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas?
Re: Atape Help
They are normal yet they mean you took some hit on a tape drive. You will probably notice that the date time stamp on the files matches errors in your errpt. If you have a series of them for one drive they definitely point to a problem. We get them every so often. We don't get alot unless a tape drive has a series of problems and then after the problem has been fixed we delete the files. Becky -Original Message- From: Bruce Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Atape Help Envirnment: TSM 5.1.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10 Atape version:7.1.5.0 4 3590 drives in a 3494 The problem I'm having is I keep getting files called Atape.rmt#.dump_h# in /var/adm/ras. One time I was not paying close enough attention to available disk space on my TSM server these files filled up var!!! Are these normal or do they point to a problem? Does anybody else get these? If so do you just use a script to get rid of them? A while back I called IBM hardware they said it was an AIX problem. I called software they said it was a hardware problem. At this point I had more impotant things to worry about so I gave up on IBM! Thanks, --- Bruce Kamp Midrange Systems Analyst II Memorial Healthcare System E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597 Fax: (954) 985-1404 ---
Re: AW: synthetic fullbackup
How about using the Policy Domain to schedule a backup every so often. We are thinking of doing this and changing the Copy Mode (in the Backup Copy Group) to Absolute causing the backup to be a full and this will bring the node date closer for faster restores. Thank You, Bill Rosette Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International WWJD Schwarz Werner Werner.Schwarz@BTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDAG.CH cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: AW: synthetic fullbackup Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 12/18/2002 10:09 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi Richard thanks for your hints. We still hope on a solution that makes us happy. The idea with BackupSet is theoretically the closest one. But I heard from people with experince, that (i) its not so easy to restore a client with the newest backupversions and (ii) we have the time-problem moved to the process GENERATE BACKUPSET (collect/consolidate all newest versions). Regards, werner -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Richard Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2002 15:21 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: synthetic fullbackup We are looking for a solution for the following problem: During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time... Werner - As Geirr said, Backupsets are the optimal solution but, as all solutions, will require extra processing time. Another approach is to exploit the often-unexploited MIGDelay value, on the primary tape storage pool. Try to match that value to your dominant Copy Group retention value, and migrate older files to a next, tape storage pool, and let reclamation naturally bring bring newer files closer together. This should get inactive versions out of the way. The cost is extra tape data movement. There is no ideal solution. Opportune full backups (weekend?) will get you closest to what you want. Richard Sims, BU
Import node problem
Hi. I'm trying to import several filesystems related to one node from ADSM 3.1.2 (on AIX 4.3.3) to TSM 4.2.1.11 (on Win2K). Exporting data gave me no problem, but TSM can import only a few filesystems; when I try to import one of the others, TSM server falls down with a funny message indicating Session rejected: TCP/IP connection failure. The only thing to do now is to restart TSM server. Is there anybody having an idea ? TIA, Davide Giacomazzi Gruppo Assicurativo Arca
tape paths offline
i finally figured out why my incrementals to the diskpool were failing... large files were trying to go directly to tape ALL MY TAPE PATHS ARE OFFLINE!! how the heck does that happen?
Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
On the TSM Server, what does 'query occupancy' report ? In what pools are your backups of this client vs others ultimately landing ? Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18-Dec-2002 10:37 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L cc: Subject:Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible well, by using the piecemeal method of successfully individually backing up everything that failed i have finally been able to run a successfull system wide backup. strange. is it possible with a 1GB filesize limit on the diskpool that several files added up to more than 1 gb? would that cause a problem? -Original Message- From: Kent Monthei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible On the client, do a 'dsmc show opt' and a 'dsmc q inclexcl' to check for stray management-class bindings that are different from your other working clients. If all your clients don't belong to a common domain, then check the server for missing copygroup definitions, incorrect target pool, target pool with no associated volume, and/or policysets that haven't been 'activate'd. Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18-Dec-2002 09:29 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L cc: Subject:Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same spot with the media mount not possible. -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem. Thanks, Rob. From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill up. any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of. In client dsmerror.log: 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object '/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed 12/17/02 15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible 12/17/02 15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible In activity log: ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to satisfy the request. There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online. The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty, online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a minute or 2 just abort. any ideas?
Re: tape paths offline
What version of TSM are you on? Since we got on TSM 5.1.1.6 We been getting Tape paths offline rather than Tape drive offline. It took me a couple days to discover this after going to the new version of TSM... David C. Pearson IS Production Support Analyst System Network Service Snohomish County PUD # 1 ole0.bmp Phone: 425.347.4420 Pager: 425.290.0944 FAX: 425.267.6380 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Conko, Steven [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:tape paths offline i finally figured out why my incrementals to the diskpool were failing... large files were trying to go directly to tape ALL MY TAPE PATHS ARE OFFLINE!! how the heck does that happen? ole0.bmp
Re: 3584 library loading
We do pretty much the same thing on SCSI libraries. This isn't just a problem with 3584 libraries, but all SCSI libraries with an I/O port. We have an admin script CHECKIN that has the checkin libv command with the appropriate options. If I want to run this manually, RUN CHECKIN, followed by a QUERY REQUEST and a REPLY xxx and off it goes. For automated, we have a PERL script that does the above and we just schedule it to run daily, usually late afternoon when we're sure the operators have done the vaulting. The default on this is CHECKIN=SCRATCH and we report on any error messages about not being able to checkin a tape as scratch. We don't have to do any update volumes for readwrite. They get checked in as scratch. The operator takes out the tapes in the I/O station to send offsite, and puts in those tapes that came back and closes the door. That's it. The checkin schedule takes care of everything else. If you're problem is having to insert more than 10 tapes on a regular basis, upgrade your I/O station to 30 slots. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kauffman, Tom Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3584 library loading I've built a simple perl script that I run after filling the I/O station. It issues the checkin command, looks for and responds to the 'reply nnn' message, and then updates the status of each tape as it checks in to readwrite. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: Matt Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3584 library loading At 15:54 -0500 12/17/02, David Longo wrote: I would also point out to the original issuer of this discussion that if having more than 10 tapes is a problem, you can upgrade to a 30 slot I/O station, We have the 30 slot station .. but it still doesn't improve the process. The ACSLS approach is so much nicer: If somebody puts tapes in the entry slots, they get stashed in the library. That makes life much simpler for the operational staff. The system can figure out what to do with them later. But having to enter a bunch of commands just to get tapes entered into the library makes no sense. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: tape paths offline
The only time I have seen this is when I had network problems I lost contact with our library manager. --- Bruce Kamp Midrange Systems Analyst II Memorial Healthcare System E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597 Fax: (954) 985-1404 --- -Original Message- From: Conko, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: tape paths offline i finally figured out why my incrementals to the diskpool were failing... large files were trying to go directly to tape ALL MY TAPE PATHS ARE OFFLINE!! how the heck does that happen?
Using Control-M for TSM backups
Hi. Due to a company directive, we've just begun using Control-M for scheduling TSM backups. Is anyone out there doing this? If so, how do you deal with MAXSESSIONS? Backups are being scheduled, but we keep exceeding MAXSESSIONS. Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message. Any personal comments made in this e-mail do not reflect the views of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc.
Re: Many, almost empty volumes ??
i know this is a stupid question, but here goes... what is your reclamation threshold set to for that storage pool? are there other tapes available to reclaim to? -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Many, almost empty volumes ?? Hi TSM'rs I am sure someone has had this before.. TSM Server 4.2 (Windows 2000) connected to a SAN based 18 slot LTO 3583. The total amount of storage is around 60GB which means there should never really be more that two, or at worst three tapes in the offsite pool. I have five. These are data tapes, not DBBackup tapes. Even after doing reclamation of the offsite pool the three tapes in question remain offsite and remain at 0.5, 2.1, 0.6 percent used. Is this normal. I was under the impression that reclamation is supposed to avoid this. Would appreciate any thoughts on this Rgds John
Cleanup Backupgroups and Expiration Processing
TSMers... We are running OS390 2.10 with a 4.2.3 TSM Server. We upgraded to 4.2.3 in November and have been running cleanup backupgroups off and on since that time to try to get the system object issue resolved. (Sure wish there was a duration parameter for the cleanup so, we could stop it automatically instead of having to babysit it on the weekends:) Some days we skip the running of cleanup backupgroups and run expiration processing to try to catch up on expiration for all the other things. It just seems like we are going in circles, run cleanup...stop it...run expiration...etc. and nothing ever gets caught up. How is everyone else doing this? IBM could give us no idea as to how long the cleanup backupgroups might take to get all the way through. I'm guessing we've ran it at least 20 days for 5-6 hours each day and we don't know how much longer we will have to run it. And, we are not getting all the way through expiration processing like we used to do because we used to run it daily and now it is just once or twice a week. Anyway, was just curious as to how everyone has handled this monster and how long it finally took to get everything cleaned up. Thanks in advance for any input. Cinda Mullen Ascension Health ISD NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way, delete it immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available). Thank you.
Journal errors
I'm still trying to get journaling to work on this node. With almost 5 million files now it's getting to the point of rediculous if you ask me. Below are some errors that are in the jbberror.log and I was wondering if anyone can help decipher them for me. What settings might I change in the ini file that would help. Sure I'll call support again, but it's been painfully obvious to me that testing on this option does not compare to my real world situation. 12/15/2002 09:52:26 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:26 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0780 byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:27 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:29 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:29 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0900 byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:29 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:32 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:32 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0acc byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:33 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:38 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:38 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0cf5c28e byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:39 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:41 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:41 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0f8d4fdd byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:43 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:45 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): The maximum number of buffer overun restarts for JFS 'G:\' exceeded,monitor thread terminating. 12/15/2002 09:52:46 JbbMonitorThread(): FS Monitor thread, tid 1184 ended with return code 122. Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Re: Cleanup Backupgroups and Expiration Processing
Are you sure that you need to run cleanup backupgroups. I did not think this problem impacted os390 TSM servers. I am on 4.2.2 and I do not think I kave a problem with this. Cinda Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 04:36:26 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE) Subject: Cleanup Backupgroups and Expiration Processing TSMers... We are running OS390 2.10 with a 4.2.3 TSM Server. We upgraded to 4.2.3 in November and have been running cleanup backupgroups off and on since that time to try to get the system object issue resolved. (Sure wish there was a duration parameter for the cleanup so, we could stop it automatically instead of having to babysit it on the weekends:) Some days we skip the running of cleanup backupgroups and run expiration processing to try to catch up on expiration for all the other things. It just seems like we are going in circles, run cleanup...stop it...run expiration...etc. and nothing ever gets caught up. How is everyone else doing this? IBM could give us no idea as to how long the cleanup backupgroups might take to get all the way through. I'm guessing we've ran it at least 20 days for 5-6 hours each day and we don't know how much longer we will have to run it. And, we are not getting all the way through expiration processing like we used to do because we used to run it daily and now it is just once or twice a week. Anyway, was just curious as to how everyone has handled this monster and how long it finally took to get everything cleaned up. Thanks in advance for any input. Cinda Mullen Ascension Health ISD NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way, delete it immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available). Thank you. ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Collocation question - Reduce restore times
Hi all, Currently I don4t use collocation in my backup. Any problem in to change for collocation=yes ?? I have a IBM Frame L32 - 3584, with 4 drives and 202 volumes ( 97 volumes = private ) Thanks --- Kind Regards, Elenara Geraldo Analyst Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: Many, almost empty volumes ??
I have had this issue on some of ours, and rather than fight it, to reclaim a tape or two I have done a 'move data volname' and if it is a copypool volume that is offsite, it will move the data from the volume logically (from local tape or disk pool) to a new copypool volume (or append to a current one that is onsite and in the library) and them PENDING. For some reason it sounds like you are not getting reclamation working for you. On copypool volumes, if you have several that are small, like under 5 percent on the tapes, try setting 'update stg your-copypool rec=95' rather than a lower number to clean up the small amounts. The work it up to 90, 85, etc, until you are a the threshold you like. This method of 'stairstepping' would probably be better then the 'move data' method (above) anyway. But both work. ... JC -Original Message- From: John [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Many, almost empty volumes ?? Hi TSM'rs I am sure someone has had this before.. TSM Server 4.2 (Windows 2000) connected to a SAN based 18 slot LTO 3583. The total amount of storage is around 60GB which means there should never really be more that two, or at worst three tapes in the offsite pool. I have five. These are data tapes, not DBBackup tapes. Even after doing reclamation of the offsite pool the three tapes in question remain offsite and remain at 0.5, 2.1, 0.6 percent used. Is this normal. I was under the impression that reclamation is supposed to avoid this. Would appreciate any thoughts on this Rgds John
Identify Current backup and bu_copy_groups
I'm trying to join backups with bu_copy_groups to determine current backup
and experation based on class. However, when I issue the following command
I get the following error:
tsm: TSM_C01select distinct a.node_name, a.filespace_name, a.class_name,
b.domain_name, b.verexists, b.retextra -
cont from -
cont ( select domain_name, verexists, retextra from adsm.bu_copy_groups -
cont group by domain_name, verexists, retextra ) as b, adsm.backups a -
cont where a.node_name='DBADDB01' a.class_name=b.class_name
ANR2908E Unexpected SQL punctuation token - '('.
|
...V...
, b.verexists, b.retextra from ( select domain_name, verexists,
ANS8001I Return code 3.
Is there another way to show server/file system on TSM the current backup
and retention policy settings
Thanks for the help,
- Matt
audit volume finding damaged files
I had a tape set to read-only access Sunday due to excessive read errors. I started an audit volume yesterday about 1:00pm. It's still running as of 11:00 am, and has found about 30 damaged files so far. I'm not pleased that the audit volume is still running almost 24 hours later, but that's not the weird thing. What seems to be weird is that each time it has found and logged damaged files, it is :49 minutes after the hour. Not every hour, mind you. What I mean is that I have damaged file error messages in actlog at: 13:49:48 16:49:50 19:49:51 22:49:52 01:49:53 etc. Doesn't this sound weird? M. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Journal errors
.frustration on: Can't help you Gill but I feel your pain. Working through very similar issues with the Journal feature. We have 5-6 clients that are in the 5 million file range and constantly a problem for us. While it's easy for some to say just split up the workload on to two or more clients, others don't look favorably on the cost of additional hardware and labor to run yet another server. Certainly I don't understand all of the underlying complexities to make the Journal do what it does but it just appears that the Journal service doesn't deliver very well at what you think would be the prime candidates... Large numbers of objects will very few of them changing on a daily basis. In our case it's around 25-30K changed per day per client. We run with drives sized at around 55 GB and as a result have 20+ drives on each server. We have never been able to Journal more than 10 drives at a time and then, as you are finding, we have issues with the 10 that are Journaled. Service stops, or we can't stop it, shows not running in the Services panel but when you try to start it says it is already running. and on and on. Clients are 5.1.1. See the same thing on both Win2k Sp2, Sp3 and NT4 Sp6. .frustration off: Curt Magura Lockheed Martin EIS Orlando, Fla. 321-235-1203 -Original Message- From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Journal errors I'm still trying to get journaling to work on this node. With almost 5 million files now it's getting to the point of rediculous if you ask me. Below are some errors that are in the jbberror.log and I was wondering if anyone can help decipher them for me. What settings might I change in the ini file that would help. Sure I'll call support again, but it's been painfully obvious to me that testing on this option does not compare to my real world situation. 12/15/2002 09:52:26 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:26 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0780 byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:27 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:29 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:29 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0900 byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:29 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:32 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:32 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0acc byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:33 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:38 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:38 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0cf5c28e byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:39 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:41 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Notification buffer overrun for monitored FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:41 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Reallocating 0x0f8d4fdd byte notification buffer. 12/15/2002 09:52:43 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): Journal DB will be restarted for FS 'G:\'. 12/15/2002 09:52:45 psFsMonitorThread(tid 1184): The maximum number of buffer overun restarts for JFS 'G:\' exceeded,monitor thread terminating. 12/15/2002 09:52:46 JbbMonitorThread(): FS Monitor thread, tid 1184 ended with return code 122. Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Re: Cleanup Backupgroups and Expiration Processing
Hmm, I believe there was some past suggestion that you just deleted the system objects from the server and took fresh backups is this a possibility in your shop. Cinda Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 05:25:54 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE) Subject: Re: Cleanup Backupgroups and Expiration Processing yeah, we have the problem big timewe think it started with 4.1.6 but, were not able to pin point it [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/02 10:53AM Are you sure that you need to run cleanup backupgroups. I did not think this problem impacted os390 TSM servers. I am on 4.2.2 and I do not think I kave a problem with this. Cinda Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 04:36:26 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE) Subject: Cleanup Backupgroups and Expiration Processing TSMers... We are running OS390 2.10 with a 4.2.3 TSM Server. We upgraded to 4.2.3 in November and have been running cleanup backupgroups off and on since that time to try to get the system object issue resolved. (Sure wish there was a duration parameter for the cleanup so, we could stop it automatically instead of having to babysit it on the weekends:) Some days we skip the running of cleanup backupgroups and run expiration processing to try to catch up on expiration for all the other things. It just seems like we are going in circles, run cleanup...stop it...run expiration...etc. and nothing ever gets caught up. How is everyone else doing this? IBM could give us no idea as to how long the cleanup backupgroups might take to get all the way through. I'm guessing we've ran it at least 20 days for 5-6 hours each day and we don't know how much longer we will have to run it. And, we are not getting all the way through expiration processing like we used to do because we used to run it daily and now it is just once or twice a week. Anyway, was just curious as to how everyone has handled this monster and how long it finally took to get everything cleaned up. Thanks in advance for any input. Cinda Mullen Ascension Health ISD NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way, delete it immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available). Thank you. ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. ** NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way, delete it immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available). Thank you.
Re: [Very OT] Can we cut out the me, toos
Well that makes me think of a old saying, Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a life time... Even the oldest dog can be taught new tricks.. you just need the proper motivation. :) Mark -Original Message- From: Gerhard Rentschler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Very OT] Can we cut out the me, toos Kai, thanks for your message. I thought I was misunderstood because of my poor English. It is my observation that teaching people moral or netiquette is not very often successful. Telling people they should be careful with vacancy notices is as much noise as the Out of Office mails themselves. Either we can use thechnology to filter out unwanted messages or we will have to accept the unavoidable. Best regards Gerhard --- Gerhard Rentschleremail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regional Computing Center tel. ++49/711/685 5806 University of Stuttgart fax: ++49/711/682357 Allmandring 30a D 70550 Stuttgart Germany -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kai Hintze Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Very OT] Can we cut out the me, toos Hey guys, lighten up! And read what he said. Those of us forced to use poorly designed mailers might find it easier to have both addresses in the Reply-To field. Personally, I disagree, but I will do so politely. (And I can speak with authority about poorly designed mailers. I am forced not only to use Outlook, but some bright person disabled Reply All so that in my office we _have_ to cut and paste to carry out a group conversation.) Yes, people should think about who they are sending to. Yes, education might help, but awareness helps more. But a good mail client would make it easier. BTW, netiquette never was what it used to be (or at least it hasn't been since 1979). - Kai. Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again. -- James R. Cook -Original Message- From: Remco Post [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2002 4:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Very OT] Re: Can we cut out the me, toos (was Re: TSM Presentation) -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poster: Remco Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Very OT] Re: Can we cut out the me, toos (was Re: TSM Presentation) -- - On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:45:05 +0100 Gerhard Rentschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, probably a change in the listserv config of this mailing list may help. Each mail I get from this list has the list as reply address. For replying to the sender you have to cut the mail address from the mail and do a forward. This is the case at least with Outlook. It might help a little bit if with reply to all I could get both addresses, the list's and the sender's address. If I want to reply only to the sender, I could remove the list address. Best regards Gerhard So now the list is at fault when people choose to use e-mail clients that cannot behave. errr. Probably, people should start thinking about to who they send their emails, and what they send. Apart from me-toos, annoying behaviour includes the out-of-office autoreplys (perfreably to the list ;-) and the ~20 line standard disclaimer, which in itself is complete nonsense on any mailinglist, and probably even in normal person-to-person e-mail. Netiquette isn't what it used to be... :-) Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately.
Select statements syntax
I need to create a select statement that concatenates numeric fields as text -- I need to create a single text field from the four numeric fields in the NODES table into a single text field. Once I get the fields CAST as CHAR type, how do I concatenate them? I tried SUBSTR but it pukes on too many arguments. This works: select substr(cast(client_version as char(1)),1,1) from nodes This doesn't: select substr(cast(client_version as char(1)),cast(client_release as char(1)),1,1) from nodes String concatenation is a basic function, I know it's there, I just can't remember the function name.
Re: Cleanup Backupgroups and Expiration Processing
That's what I would love to do but, I'm not getting any buy in on that. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/02 11:35AM Hmm, I believe there was some past suggestion that you just deleted the system objects from the server and took fresh backups is this a possibility in your shop. Cinda Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 05:25:54 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE) Subject: Re: Cleanup Backupgroups and Expiration Processing yeah, we have the problem big timewe think it started with 4.1.6 but, were not able to pin point it [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/02 10:53AM Are you sure that you need to run cleanup backupgroups. I did not think this problem impacted os390 TSM servers. I am on 4.2.2 and I do not think I kave a problem with this. Cinda Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 04:36:26 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE) Subject: Cleanup Backupgroups and Expiration Processing TSMers... We are running OS390 2.10 with a 4.2.3 TSM Server. We upgraded to 4.2.3 in November and have been running cleanup backupgroups off and on since that time to try to get the system object issue resolved. (Sure wish there was a duration parameter for the cleanup so, we could stop it automatically instead of having to babysit it on the weekends:) Some days we skip the running of cleanup backupgroups and run expiration processing to try to catch up on expiration for all the other things. It just seems like we are going in circles, run cleanup...stop it...run expiration...etc. and nothing ever gets caught up. How is everyone else doing this? IBM could give us no idea as to how long the cleanup backupgroups might take to get all the way through. I'm guessing we've ran it at least 20 days for 5-6 hours each day and we don't know how much longer we will have to run it. And, we are not getting all the way through expiration processing like we used to do because we used to run it daily and now it is just once or twice a week. Anyway, was just curious as to how everyone has handled this monster and how long it finally took to get everything cleaned up. Thanks in advance for any input. Cinda Mullen Ascension Health ISD NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way, delete it immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available). Thank you. ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. ** NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way, delete it immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available). Thank you. NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way, delete it immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available). Thank you.
RES: Select statements syntax
Try something like this: Select cast(client_version as char(1)) || cast(client_level as char(1)) from nodes -- Paul Gondim van Dongen Engenheiro de Sistemas MCSE Tivoli Certified Consultant - Storage Manager VANguard - Value Added Network guardians http://www.vanguard-it.com.br Fone: 55 81 3225-0353 -Mensagem original- De: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviada em: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 15:13 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Select statements syntax I need to create a select statement that concatenates numeric fields as text -- I need to create a single text field from the four numeric fields in the NODES table into a single text field. Once I get the fields CAST as CHAR type, how do I concatenate them? I tried SUBSTR but it pukes on too many arguments. This works: select substr(cast(client_version as char(1)),1,1) from nodes This doesn't: select substr(cast(client_version as char(1)),cast(client_release as char(1)),1,1) from nodes String concatenation is a basic function, I know it's there, I just can't remember the function name.
Re: Problems with z/OS server after 4.2.3.0 upgrade
I was just about to post this same question. I am seeing the exact same thing. Found it yesterday when I was attempting to vary a disk pool volume offline. It looks like the %6C4B is replacing something??? It appeared for this it was replacing the '.' with the '%6c4b' in our disk dataset name. If you enter the commands from the command line to get the results you are looking for, it works fine. It seems the panels have something missing?? I just tried going through the menus to display the nodes and everything looks o.k. We'll keep checking things out here and I'll let you know if we discover the cause or not. Cinda Mullen Ascension Health ISD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/02 11:49AM I am having some strange issues with the Web Admin interface after upgrading to 4.2.3.0 from 4.2.2.13. I did not do ann UPGRADEDB based on message I saw here that I did not need to do this since I had already done it for the 4.2.2.13 level. Yes, I did the /RUNFILE DD:IDL. In fact, I just did it again to see if I missed something from the original run. Yes, I checked that I am pointing to the correct datasets. What I am seeing is stuff like this when I query a Client Node: Client Nodes : VCUNET CMSERVER%6C4BVCU%6C4BEDU No objects found It won't show me filespace information nor correct client information. NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way, delete it immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available). Thank you.
Re: [Very OT] Can we cut out the me, toos
Unfortunately that little disclaimer is added after I send the email, it is a company policy, and there is nothing you nor I can do about it. As far as a cow catching a rabbit... that is highly unlikely and totally irrelevant to this conversation. Please elaborate, I'm from the United States and do not understand Holland humor it seems. Mark -Original Message- From: Henk ten Have [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Very OT] Can we cut out the me, toos On 18-Dec-02 Remeta, Mark wrote: Well that makes me think of a old saying, Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a life time... Very nice. As we say in Holland: If a cow can catch a rabbit. From: Remco Post [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] and the ~20 line standard disclaimer, which in itself is complete nonsense on any mailinglist, and probably even in normal person-to-person e-mail. Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately. Ok, only six lines, not too bad...;-) Btw, if you reply, skip all the 'history' replies Cheers, Henk 'no disclaimer' ten Have Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately.
Re: Collocation question - Reduce restore times
Yes, that will work fine. The only other thing you should do is check the MAXSCRATCH parameter for your primary tape pool. (q stgpool TAPEPOOLNAME f=d) If you leave MAXSCRATCH set to a high number, TSM will start a new tape for each client. If you have more than 202 clients, all your tapes will be used up at once. In my case, I have MORE clients than I have slots in the library! So you can set MAXSCRATCh to a lower number and limit the tapes TSM will use. For example, if you have 100 clients and you set MAXSCRATCH to 50, TSM will put 2 clients per tape. You still get most of the benefits of collocation, but it limit the number of tapes that get used up. Wanda Prather The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab 443-778-8769 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think - Scott Adams/Dilbert -Original Message- From: Elenara Geraldo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Collocation question - Reduce restore times Hi all, Currently I don4t use collocation in my backup. Any problem in to change for collocation=yes ?? I have a IBM Frame L32 - 3584, with 4 drives and 202 volumes ( 97 volumes = private ) Thanks --- Kind Regards, Elenara Geraldo Analyst Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: 4.2.3 Web Admin Prob
Top of message -- 12-18-02 11:07 S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Problems with z/OS server Zoltan: We see the same thing. Problem is described in APAR PQ68442 - fixed in 4.2.3.2 patch level. Here is the description: Problem Summary: * USERS AFFECTED: This APAR affect the Tivoli Storage * * Manager server version 5.1.X and 4.2.X on * * MVS. * * PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: Character encoding algorithm in the * * web engine is not converting EBCDIC * * character to ASCII before making the* * encoding. This results in * * non-alphanumeric characters, such as* * a dash (-) or period (.), in being * * incorrectly translated when decoded * * by the web engine. * * RECOMMENDATION: Install PTF or PATCH when available. The* * release schedule and version number may * * change at IBM discretion. The target * * PATCH is 5.1.6.1 and 4.2.3.2. The target* * PTF versions are 5.1.7.0 and 4.3.4.0 * Non-alphanumeric characters are encoded into an escape sequence in a URL. The web engine on MVS was not converting the characters into ASCII character set before encoding the characters. LOCAL FIX: Use the Admin Command Line to modify, update or delete TSM DB definitions that contain special characters in the name. Sam Sheppard San Diego Data Processing Corp. (858)-581-9668 Top of message I am having some strange issues with the Web Admin interface after upgrading to 4.2.3.0 from 4.2.2.13. I did not do ann UPGRADEDB based on message I saw here that I did not need to do this since I had already done it for the 4.2.2.13 level. Yes, I did the /RUNFILE DD:IDL. In fact, I just did it again to see if I missed something from the original run. Yes, I checked that I am pointing to the correct datasets. What I am seeing is stuff like this when I query a Client Node: Client Nodes : VCUNET CMSERVER%6C4BVCU%6C4BEDU No objects found It won't show me filespace information nor correct client information. ---`
Re: new DB fields in 5152 server?
Our test server is 5.1.5.4 and the fields are ok. Tony Garrison I/T Sr. Systems Programmer USAA 210-913-9836 -Original Message- From: Stumpf, Joachim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: new DB fields in 5152 server? Hi together, today I upgraded our TSM-test-server (z/OS) from V5.1.5.1 to V5.1.5.2. If I perform a SELECT * FROM NODES I see 3 new fields in the table (NODES.TCP_NAME, NODES.TCP_ADDRESS, NODES.GUID). But the TCP_Name and TCP_address are not valid name or address I only see: TCP_NAME = åàà TCP_ADDRESS = îàåîåîê anyone else has seen this? -- regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen Joachim Stumpf Datev eG Nuremberg - Germany
Re: Select statements syntax
Thanks to you all, perfect answer! -Original Message- From: Cook, Dwight E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Select statements syntax Way to go Paul ! example run against the occupancy table... tsm: TSMSRV01select cast((physical_mb) as varchar(10)) || cast((logical_mb) as varchar(10)) as My Concat Field from adsm.occupancy My Concat Field -- 2521.282505.62 294.10293.42 0.030.03 0.000.00 6.146.12 0.240.24 294.77290.99 ... and on ... Dwight -Original Message- From: Paul van Dongen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RES: Select statements syntax Try something like this: Select cast(client_version as char(1)) || cast(client_level as char(1)) from nodes -- Paul Gondim van Dongen Engenheiro de Sistemas MCSE Tivoli Certified Consultant - Storage Manager VANguard - Value Added Network guardians http://www.vanguard-it.com.br Fone: 55 81 3225-0353 -Mensagem original- De: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviada em: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 15:13 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Select statements syntax I need to create a select statement that concatenates numeric fields as text -- I need to create a single text field from the four numeric fields in the NODES table into a single text field. Once I get the fields CAST as CHAR type, how do I concatenate them? I tried SUBSTR but it pukes on too many arguments. This works: select substr(cast(client_version as char(1)),1,1) from nodes This doesn't: select substr(cast(client_version as char(1)),cast(client_release as char(1)),1,1) from nodes String concatenation is a basic function, I know it's there, I just can't remember the function name.
Re: 4.2.3 Web Admin Prob
Sounds similar enough to probably be it, especialy since I have a lot of nodes with . in the name. However, still don't see the 4.2.3.2 patch out there. Just checked. Sam Sheppard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/2002 02:15 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: 4.2.3 Web Admin Prob Top of message -- 12-18-02 11:07 S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Problems with z/OS server Zoltan: We see the same thing. Problem is described in APAR PQ68442 - fixed in 4.2.3.2 patch level. Here is the description: Problem Summary: * USERS AFFECTED: This APAR affect the Tivoli Storage * * Manager server version 5.1.X and 4.2.X on * * MVS. * * PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: Character encoding algorithm in the * * web engine is not converting EBCDIC * * character to ASCII before making the* * encoding. This results in * * non-alphanumeric characters, such as* * a dash (-) or period (.), in being * * incorrectly translated when decoded * * by the web engine. * * RECOMMENDATION: Install PTF or PATCH when available. The* * release schedule and version number may * * change at IBM discretion. The target * * PATCH is 5.1.6.1 and 4.2.3.2. The target* * PTF versions are 5.1.7.0 and 4.3.4.0 * Non-alphanumeric characters are encoded into an escape sequence in a URL. The web engine on MVS was not converting the characters into ASCII character set before encoding the characters. LOCAL FIX: Use the Admin Command Line to modify, update or delete TSM DB definitions that contain special characters in the name. Sam Sheppard San Diego Data Processing Corp. (858)-581-9668 Top of message I am having some strange issues with the Web Admin interface after upgrading to 4.2.3.0 from 4.2.2.13. I did not do ann UPGRADEDB based on message I saw here that I did not need to do this since I had already done it for the 4.2.2.13 level. Yes, I did the /RUNFILE DD:IDL. In fact, I just did it again to see if I missed something from the original run. Yes, I checked that I am pointing to the correct datasets. What I am seeing is stuff like this when I query a Client Node: Client Nodes : VCUNET CMSERVER%6C4BVCU%6C4BEDU No objects found It won't show me filespace information nor correct client information. ---`
Client code upgrade
We are planning to upgrade all our clients to V5.1.5. My question is if there is some way to distribute the client code to all our NT clients automatically. We have several hundert clients and upgrading client code is a stable fight with my NT admins, they are plain getting tired of me asking twice a year to upgrade. Help would be appreciated Thanks Andrea Mac Murray
Re: Moving data between directorys
There is no way to do this that I know of other than backing up again. If they had given you warning and had just moved to say another disk on the client system and kept the same dir structure, that would not have impacted you. David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/02 09:18AM I have a site that has had a clients directory structure restructured without notifying me. This directory structure has over 2 Terabytes of information in it. I found this out when my nightly backup choked. Is there any way that I can move data that has been backed up perviously to the new directory structure without having to re back it up? Jacque MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 12/18/2002 03:45:25 PM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Disaster Recovery Test
Hi all; I'm getting ready to preform a Disaster Recovery test (with Sungard) and I was wondering if anyone would be interested in reviewing my steps and letting me know of anything I may be missing. - Thanks in advance! THINGS TO TAKE: mksysb (and savevgs) AIX 4.3.3 cdroms Atape drivers DLT tape drivers Application Software (Stars/Sql_backtrack/OBSI) Database software (Sybase) Tivoli Software All license Information Steps to Restore: 1) Restore mksysb 2) Install ATAPE/DLT drivers 3) Restore savevgs 4) Restore TSM database 5) Restore Export Node data 6) Restore OS data (not sure if this step is necessary?) 7) Install Application/Database Software (not sure if this step is necessary?) 8) Restore Sybase [raw] data 9) Check network connectivity Also, our environment has 2 internal DLT tape drives, I will only have 1 external DLT drive during the test - will Tivoli have a problem [restoring] with this? Any advice or comments would be much appreciated - thanks again! Have a happy holidays; Theresa
TSM Certification
More questions. I was looking at TSM under ibm.com and I saw some Certification but the TSM portion seemed to be Security oriented. Do you or anyone know of any kind of TSM Admin Certification, maybe even Backup Admin Certified? I see a great deal of admin issues more so than programming, security, or installation. Thank You, Bill Rosette Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International WWJD
Re: TSM Certification
Look for test 0799, its the Tivoli Certified Consultant 5.1 test. Thanks, Robert Rippy From: William Rosette [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 04:09 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: TSM Certification More questions. I was looking at TSM under ibm.com and I saw some Certification but the TSM portion seemed to be Security oriented. Do you or anyone know of any kind of TSM Admin Certification, maybe even Backup Admin Certified? I see a great deal of admin issues more so than programming, security, or installation. Thank You, Bill Rosette Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International WWJD
Re: TSM Certification
I know there is or at least was Tivoli Storage Manager Implementation which would make you a Tivoli Certified Consultant. That is what I have done. Becky -Original Message- From: William Rosette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM Certification More questions. I was looking at TSM under ibm.com and I saw some Certification but the TSM portion seemed to be Security oriented. Do you or anyone know of any kind of TSM Admin Certification, maybe even Backup Admin Certified? I see a great deal of admin issues more so than programming, security, or installation. Thank You, Bill Rosette Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International WWJD
Re: TSM Certification
Look here for more info: http://www.tivoli.com/services/certification/roadmap/cert_51itsm.html Test appears to be test# 000-772 Chris Murphy IT Network Analyst Idaho Dept. of Lands [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: William Rosette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM Certification More questions. I was looking at TSM under ibm.com and I saw some Certification but the TSM portion seemed to be Security oriented. Do you or anyone know of any kind of TSM Admin Certification, maybe even Backup Admin Certified? I see a great deal of admin issues more so than programming, security, or installation. Thank You, Bill Rosette Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International WWJD
Mulitple Schedule backup strategy
I am trying to see if I am on the right track here. I don't have a test Netware server to play with. Please let me know if I am thinking correctly, or if I am way off base. Thanks I have recently been told that we need to backup certain files on a machine weekly, and the rest of the files on the same machine daily. I think the way to go about this is to add another nodename in the dsm.opt file (Netware server here), along with the excludes/includes for that node. So, the dsm.opt my NW-DCO-Server4 would look something like this... +++ * Tivoli Storage Manager COMMMETHODTCPip TCPSERVERADDRESS 200.1.1.41 TCPPORT 1500 NODENAME NW-DCO-Server4 EXCLUDE sys:\system\secaudit.log EXCLUDE sys:\system\events.log EXCLUDE sys:\system\system.log EXCLUDE sys:\system\btrieve.trn EXCLUDE SYS:\system\tsa\err$hst.* EXCLUDE sys:\system\tsa\err$log.* EXCLUDE sys:\system\tsa\skip$log.* EXCLUDE sys:\system\tsa\tsa$temp.* EXCLUDE sys:\system\sys$log.err EXCLUDE sys:\_swap_.mem EXCLUDE sys:\vol$log.err EXCLUDE sys:\tts$log.err EXCLUDE VOL1:\DEPT\VOLNTEER\VWORKS\...\* NWPWFILE YES QUIET PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 NWIGNORECOMPRESSBIT YES NODENAME NW-DCO-Server4.a EXCLUDE * INCLUDE VOL1:\DEPT\VOLNTEER\VWORKS\...\* NWPWFILE YES QUIET PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 NWIGNORECOMPRESSBIT YES +++ I would have to define the node NW-DCO-Server4.a to TSM, and schedule it for weekly backups with the original schedule for daily backups. Am I on the right track here? Am I missing something? Is there a different/better way to do this? Thanks Todd
Re: When is a tape too old
If you want to track the number of mounts TSM does to your tapes that's pretty easy, you can get it from the SUMMARY table. Set up a query, for example : select date(start_time) , drive_name, volume_name from summary where activity='TAPE MOUNT' You can use perl (from Windoze or *IX) or a shell script from AIX to drive that query and send the output to a file. If you use the -commadelimited parm, you will get a comma-delimited file that looks like: header garbage 2002-12-dd, xxxmt1, VV trailer garbage You can have the script strip off the headers and trailers and append the data to the previous run to build a running log. I add some parms to the query to limit the date/time range to the past 24 hours, then run the script daily via cron (NT scheduler to you Windows types). So in effect, Im creating an accounting log just for tape mounts. Since the output is comma-delimited, it's pretty easy to read the file with most anything -- SAS, perl, rexx, or even EXCEL if you don't let the file get too big -- and tally up your mount counts. That being said, I'm not sure how useful mount counts are in determining tape life. (I started doing this to track the mount load on my DRIVES, not the volumes specifically). I've never heard of a mount limit that determines the lifespan of a 3590. (Since we do vaulting, I expect to have my tapes damaged by mishandling long before they get a chance to wear out from mounting :) On the other hand, it would be real nice to keep a data base like this, so if you start seeing I/O errors over time, you might have some useful data. Wanda Prather The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab 443-778-8769 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think - Scott Adams/Dilbert -Original Message- From: Diana Noble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: When is a tape too old We use 3590 J's and K's. I've been asked what the lifespan of these tapes are. I've seen where the shelf life might be 10-12 years, but have not been able to find anything about the regular use of them. Our tapes are returned to scratch when they become empty, so they are not private tapes. It's my undertanding that we lose the number of mounts for the tape when it is moved from scratch into a private storage pool. Is there a way to track it's usage and and know when it's reaching it's maximum lifespan? Is there an approximate lifespan for these tapes when used regularly? Or do I just wait until IO errors start occurring and remove it then? Thanks, Diana
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
Good idea.Many thanks to all. Regards Raghu. Halvorsen GeirrTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gulbrand cc: gehal@WMDATASubject: Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM .COM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 12/18/2002 05:36 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Try comparing the IBM3583, with the same libraries from Dell (can't remember name) and Adic (Scalar100). I don't know, but there could be a few bucks to save. I believe that Adic have quit a few other libraries in their series. You also have Compaqs MSL5026 (very scalable - OEM'ed from Overland), StorageTek L20,L40,80,L180,L700(I have best experience with the larger ones - L180 and up). Back to what's good and not - check Tivolis site for Supported Devices http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/requirements.html and check the libraries/drives mentioned there. Rgds. Geirr Halvorsen -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18. december 2002 12:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
