Re: Way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore to an alternate location?

2006-11-01 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
Orin,

I can confirm, what Bill has already told you, from first-hand
experience using TDP for Exchange in W2K3 environment that it works
flawlessly.

You do not need to setup another temp. box to do that, this is the main
purpose of RSG in W2K3! You do not need to dismount any production
stores while your restoring either. Your time to recover a single
mailbox depends on how big is your mailbox store which contains the
mailbox. 

Once you have restored it to RSG you can either merge that data the data
from that mailbox into the production or export it as a PST to open
separately.

These links may be of help to you:

http://hellomate.typepad.com/exchange/2003/12/the_recovery_st.html

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/ue2k3
rsg.mspx


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Khalid B. Khan

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Orin Rehorst
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:50 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore
to an alternate location?

We are trying to recover a single mailbox. We don't want to write over
the data store and loose current data.

We would like to use Exchange 2003 Recovery Storage Group. But we're
afraid the restore will write over current data.

Our current plan is to set up a temporary Exchange server, restore the
TDP back there, and export the mailbox. Our tech support company
estimates 20 hours for that job.

Your comments would be appreciated.

PS. It looks like I need to go to a brick level backup solution, don't
you think?

Regards,
Orin Rehorst

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Del Hoobler
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:19 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore
to an alternate location?

Orin,

By default, Data Protection for Exchange will restore
data back into the live Exchange Server and into the
original storage group and database. The Microsoft
Exchange Server requires that the database be dismounted
for this operation. If that is not what you want,
it would help to understand what exactly you are trying to do.
Are you trying to restore in to an Exchange 2003 Recovery Storage Group?
Are you trying to restore to a different server?
Do you just want to restore the .EDB, .STM, and .LOG files
so that you can manipulate them with 3rd-party tools?

Thanks,

Del



ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 10/26/2006
05:14:37 PM:

 Is there a way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore
to
 an alternate location? When I try a restore TSM first asks to close
the
 datastore.

 TIA
 Orin Rehorst


Exchange 2003 Mailbox store backup

2006-01-30 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
I would like to exclude the Public Folder database within a certain
Storage Group (SG) in Exchange 2003 from FULL backup, but it seems that
I can only specify SG for backup and not any specific Mailbox Store
(database) within an SG. The TDPEXEC (GUI)  even the TDPEXCC (CLI)
backup all the databases within an SG. The only exception is the
Database Copy backup type, but the downside is that this type of
backup does not prune the transaction logs after successful backup.

Am I missing anything? Can someone help me confirm that this is true or
is there another method of achieving what I want to accomplish here.

Thank you very much for any help and feedback.

Khalid Khan
Systems Engineer
American Transmission Co.
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Re: Exchange 2003 Mailbox store backup

2006-01-30 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
Thank you very much Del. I knew about the logs being associated per SG,
but did not put the two facts together. I guess my only other option is
to create another SG and move the Public Folder db to it and exclude it.

Thanks again for your feedback, much appreciated.

Khalid

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Del Hoobler
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:59 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 Mailbox store backup

Khalid,

This is not allowed because the transacation logs for
an Exchange Storage Group are at the Storage Group level,
not at the database level.

If a backup product allowed you to do this, it would
be letting you create backup that may not be recoverable
in the event that you lost the disk that contained
your public folder database.

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
Tivoli Storage Manager Development
IBM Corporation



ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/30/2006
02:33:15 PM:

 I would like to exclude the Public Folder database within a certain
 Storage Group (SG) in Exchange 2003 from FULL backup, but it seems
that
 I can only specify SG for backup and not any specific Mailbox Store
 (database) within an SG. The TDPEXEC (GUI)  even the TDPEXCC (CLI)
 backup all the databases within an SG. The only exception is the
 Database Copy backup type, but the downside is that this type of
 backup does not prune the transaction logs after successful backup.

 Am I missing anything? Can someone help me confirm that this is true
or
 is there another method of achieving what I want to accomplish here.

 Thank you very much for any help and feedback.

 Khalid Khan
 Systems Engineer
 American Transmission Co.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Moving TSM from one server to another!

2005-01-10 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
Here is a good step-by-step procedure written by some good soul for the
rest of us:
http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg50019.html

Khalid

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Lawrence Clark
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:20 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Moving TSM from one server to another!

Depends on your disk

-we installed base TSM on a new machine
- brought over the config files
- moved the SSA disk holding the storage pools and DB
- and came up

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/04/2004 4:08:30 PM 
Hi,

please does anyone have step-by-step procedure for moving TSM from one
machine to another. I am planning to move TSM to faster machine and I
would
be thankful if someone can help me!
Platforms are:
Source machine AIX 5.1 TSM 5.1.8.0
Destination machineAIX 5.2 TSM 5.2.2.0

Best regards

Mladen Portak


Archiving does not delete directories ???

2004-03-24 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
Can someone please explain to me why TSM client does not delete the
directory structure of the archived files? I am using the deletefiles
option, but the client leaves the directories on the file system and
successfully deletes the files within those directories.

Is there something I can do to delete the directories together with the
files? Please advise.

Thank you,

Khalid Khan
ATC


Re: Archiving does not delete directories ???

2004-03-24 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
Andy,

Thank you very much for the explanation, your point is well take. Also
thank you for the script.

I suppose I can create a schedule and use COMMAND as the ACTION for the
schedule and use your script to run it. That should work, correct?

Khalid


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Andrew Raibeck
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Archiving does not delete directories ???

The -DELETEFILES option was originally designed to operate on files
only,
not directories (as was the original implementation of ARCHIVE). The
-DELETEFILES option is not designed to differentiate between archive of
full trees and archives of partial trees. For example, in which cases
should TSM delete the entire directory structure?

   dsmc archive c:\mydir\*.txt -deletefiles
   dsmc archive c:\mydir\ -deletefiles

What if there are files excluded from the archive via EXCLUDE statements
in your client options file, or a file otherwise fails to be archived?
Should TSM still delete the entire directory structure?

What if there are subdirectories of c:\mydir, but -subdir=yes is not
specified? Should TSM still delete the entire directory structure?

In principle, what you ask is not necessarily unreasonable. It's just
not
something that TSM is set up for (and it is not trivial, as the above
questions suggest). Consider opening a requirement if this function is
valuable to you. If you do open a requirement, it would help if you
could
elaborate on how you think the function should behave in scenarios such
as
those I describe above. That is, under what circumstances should or
should
not TSM presume to delete the directory tree?

In the mean time, you can simulate this function for yourself if you
wish.
For example, the following Windows script can do what you ask (note that
this is only an example, use at your own risk).

REM BEGIN SCRIPT
   @echo off
   if {%1} == {} goto :USAGE

   pushd c:\tsm\baclient

   dsmc archive %* -deletefiles

   if not %errorlevel% equ 0 (
  echo TSM archive function ended with return code %errorlevel%.
  echo Directories will not be deleted.
  goto :END
   )

:TOP
   if {%1} == {} goto :END
   echo.
   echo Deleting directory %1
   rd /s /q %1
   shift
   goto :TOP

:USAGE
   echo Usage: ARCHDEL dir1\ [dir2\ ...]
   echo.
   echoExample: archdel c:\mydir\
   echoExample: archdel c:\mydir\ e:\yourdir\ f:\herdir\
   echoExample: archdel c:\my directory\  t:\junk\
   echo.
   echoNote: When enclosing a directory in quotes,
   echo  put a blank space between the ending
   echo  '\' and the ending quote.

:END
   popd
REM END SCRIPT

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.



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Can someone please explain to me why TSM client does not delete the
directory structure of the archived files? I am using the deletefiles
option, but the client leaves the directories on the file system and
successfully deletes the files within those directories.

Is there something I can do to delete the directories together with the
files? Please advise.

Thank you,

Khalid Khan
ATC


Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups

2003-11-18 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
I sent a message to Bill Boyer yesterday, but not sure if he got it or not. Here is 
the message again:

I don't have the problem but I am backing the SYSTEM OBJECTS without any problems on a 
W2K DC. My client option.dsm has the exclude for ntds dir, which is recommended by TSM 
guide. My SYSTEM OBJECTS include the Active Directory object and it is equal to my AD 
database.

I DID have very similar problem but it was due to virus scanner not TSM backup client. 
It caused logs to increment perpetually; see Q298551, and especially Q284947 for 
resolution to your problems. Make sure to setup virus scanner to exclude the NTDS 
directory. Also make sure your edb.chk file exists, otherwise above situation can 
occur. See Q247715.

I had to do an offline defrag of the AD. Also I moved the AD log location from the C 
(boot partition) to another bigger drive; recommended by MS to do so. This too you can 
only do through the ntdsutil in AD offline mode.

Khalid Khan
ATC, LLC

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, Matt (US - 
Hermitage)
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups

We are having a similar problem and 5.1.6.7 did not resolve the problem.
We are currently testing 5.2.0.3 on one of our problem Domain
Controllers.  So far so good.



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From: Bill Boyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups


There are months worth of these 10MB EDBx.LOG files. Is there an
easy way to remove them? I can upgrade the client today to 5.1.6.7. Will
the next backup cause AD to remove these old log files?

Bill

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Andrew Raibeck
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups


 Anyone have problems of this sort? The client
 level is 5.1.0.1 (I know..upgrade!)

Yes, you inadvertently answered your own question   :-)

This could be APAR IC33389 that you are experiencing. You can go to
http://www.ibm.com and search on the APAR number for details. Fixed in
5.1.5 and up (I recommend latest 5.1.6 patch level).

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Bill Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:AD Circular Logging and TSM backups


I have a client that just forwarded me a note saying that the TSM client
is causing problems with the active directory circular logging. here's
the text he sent me:

(See Microsoft Article)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272425Product=w
in20

00

Issue:

- Buildup of Active Directory log files (total size over 2 gigabytes) on
system drive C:\.
- Circular logging is enabled but not working correctly due to an
interruption by the Tivoli Backup Client.




Corrective Action:

-  Remove the System State Backup option from Tivoli nightly backups.
-  Ensure the version of Ntbackup.exe is 5.0.2195.2104 or greater.
- Create a nightly scheduled Ntbackup.exe of the System State to a
location on the server s local drive (Tivoli will back this up).
- Check c:\winnt\ntds\ directory periodically to ensure log files are
being truncated.

Looking at the microsoft article, it is a problem with AD, not TSM and
is supposedly fixed on SP2 for Win2k. I've searched IBM and adsm.org but
didn't find any hits. I have other clients that backup Win2k AD with no
problems and have actually done BMR restores.

Anyone have problems of this sort? The client level is 5.1.0.1 (I
know..upgrade!) and the TSM server is AIX 4.3.3 TSM 5.1.7.2. They want
me to implement the -SYSTEMOBJECT and the NTBACKUP solution right away.
I don't know what SP level the Win2k server is at. There is an
Exclude.dir *:\...\NTDS in the client optionset.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.



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Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups

2003-11-17 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
I don't have the problem but I am backing the SYSTEM OBJECTS without any problems on a 
W2K DC. My client option.dsm also has the exclude for \ntds dir.

One major known issue is the anti-virus scanning can cause logs to increment 
perpetually, see Q298551, and especially Q284947!

Also make sure your edb.chk file exists, otherwise above situation can occur. See 
Q247715.

I had similar problem previously, but it was not due to TSM; I had to do an offline 
defrag of the AD. Also I moved the AD log location from the C (boot partition) to 
another bigger drive it is recommended by MS to do so. This too you can only do 
through the ntdsutil in AD offline mode.

Khalid
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Boyer
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups

I have a client that just forwarded me a note saying that the TSM client is
causing problems with the active directory circular logging. here's the text
he sent me:

(See Microsoft Article)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272425Product=win20
00

Issue:

- Buildup of Active Directory log files (total size over 2 gigabytes) on
system drive C:\.
- Circular logging is enabled but not working correctly due to an
interruption by the Tivoli Backup Client.




Corrective Action:

-  Remove the System State Backup option from Tivoli nightly backups.
-  Ensure the version of Ntbackup.exe is 5.0.2195.2104 or greater.
- Create a nightly scheduled Ntbackup.exe of the System State to a location
on the server s local drive (Tivoli will back this up).
- Check c:\winnt\ntds\ directory periodically to ensure log files are being
truncated.

Looking at the microsoft article, it is a problem with AD, not TSM and is
supposedly fixed on SP2 for Win2k. I've searched IBM and adsm.org but didn't
find any hits. I have other clients that backup Win2k AD with no problems
and have actually done BMR restores.

Anyone have problems of this sort? The client level is 5.1.0.1 (I
know..upgrade!) and the TSM server is AIX 4.3.3 TSM 5.1.7.2.
They want me to implement the -SYSTEMOBJECT and the NTBACKUP solution right
away. I don't know what SP level the Win2k server is at. There is an
Exclude.dir *:\...\NTDS in the client optionset.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.


Re: TSM, Active Directory, Example dsm.opt File

2003-11-13 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
Paul,

I do daily incrementals on my servers. I have not restored a DC yet, but I have 
successfully restored non-DC server's System Objects files successfully. Only real 
issue would be to do an authoritative AD restore, where you are exclusively 
overwriting AD database. Other than that the regular AD restore should be easy, since 
other DCs in your domain will update the restored DC's db via replication after 
restore.

Check out section 6.2.4 of Redbook sg246141.pdf. It talks specifically about what you 
want to do.

I will be conducting an AD restore before the end of this year as a test. I will share 
my experience then.

Khalid
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Strobeck
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM, Active Directory, Example dsm.opt File

Khalid

Thanks!...I just discovered that Redbook yesterday and I am working my
way through it...Follow-up questions for you:

Are you using TSM to backup the Sytem Object--Daily-Weekly-Monthly on
your DC's? Have you ever had to restore a DC with TSM?

Thanks!

...Paul

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Re: Scheduler service on MSCS cluster

2003-11-13 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
Guillaume,

It is very important that you start and enter the password for one server only among 
the cluster nodes. This will write the password to its registry. Later when you fail 
over this node via the NT Cluster Administrator the registry password will be entered 
on the additional node(s). Otherwise there will be different registry passwords on 
each node(s) and the backups will fail.

Khalid B. Khan
Network Engineer
American Transmission Co. 
The Energy Access Company
www.atcllc.com

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Gilbert
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Scheduler service on MSCS cluster

Hi All

I have a problem installing a scheduling service on a Win2k MSCS cluster.
When I run dsmc q se and generate the password, everything is fine. When I
run the dsmcutil command to install the scheduler service, I get the
following error in dsmerror.log :

11/13/2003 11:00:27 ReadPswdFromRegistry(): getRegValue(): Win32 RC=2 .
11/13/2003 11:00:27 sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication.

In dsmsched.log, there is a prompt for a user id and then a communication
error.

I run the command exactly as it says in the Wundows User's guide.
Clusternode yes and passwordaccesss generate are in the dsm.opt file. 

The two local nodes are working fine and a backup was run last night with no
problems.

Client is at 5.1.5.15 and server is on  sun 2.8 version 5.1.6.5

Thanks for any help

Guillaume Gilbert
Backup Administrator
CGI - ITM
(514) 415-3000 x5091
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Re: TSM, Active Directory, Example dsm.opt File

2003-11-12 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
Check the guide on Deploying Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows 2000 it will detail 
an example of the dsm.opt. Which is where I built my from.

Here is my dsm.opt from one of the DC with AD running:

TCPSERVERADDRESS A.B.C.D
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
SCHEDMODE POLLING
SCHEDLOGR 20 D
ERRORLOGR 20 D
COMPression ON
TXNBYTELIMIT 25600
QUERYSCHEDPERIOD 6
DOMAIN  ALL-LOCAL
COMPRESSALWAYS YES

EXCLUDE C:\I386\...\* 
EXCLUDE C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\...\* 
Exclude *:\pagefile.sys
Exclude *:\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*
Exclude *:\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*.*
Exclude *:\...\Profiles\...\ntuser.dat* 
Exclude *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat
EXCLUDE C:\WINNT\system32\CPL.CFG
EXCLUDE C:\WINNT\system32\*.dat
EXCLUDE *.dmp
EXCLUDE *.tmp
EXCLUDE *.msg
EXCLUDE *:\WINNT\DEBUG\*.*
Exclude.dir *:\...\NTDS
Exclude.dir C:\Documents and Settings
Exclude.dir C:\temp
Exclude.dir D:\Temp
Exclude.dir E:\Temp
Exclude.dir D:\Spool
Exclude.dir F:\Temp
Exclude.dir F:\I386
Exclude.dir *:\...\system32\wins
Exclude.dir *:\...\system32\LServer
Exclude.dir *:\...\system32\dhcp
Exclude.dir *:\...\system32\config
Exclude.dir *:\...\ntfrs\jet
Exclude.dir *:\System Volume Information
Exclude.dir *:\...\Temporary Internet Files
Exclude.dir *:\Recycled
Exclude.dir *:\Recycler
INCLUDE *.pst   PST
INCLUDE *:\ADSM.SYS\...\*

I hope this helps.

Khalid Khan
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Strobeck
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM, Active Directory, Example dsm.opt File

Greetings

We are currently getting ready to move over to Windows 2K...We will be
using TSM to backup 4 DC's...what are the recommended include/excludes?
Can anyone provide a sample dsm.opt file for Windows 2K DC using AD?

Specifically--are folks who are using TSM to backup Windows 2K using it
to backup the Active Directory?

Any help is most appreciated.

...Paul

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Server-Server DRM Configuration ...

2003-11-11 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
I have a humble question regarding the benefits of Server-Server communication. I have 
two sites 60 miles apart with 45MB pipe in between, and each of them has a TSM server 
and a library. I was proposed by a TSM consultant to establish server-server DRM 
configuration to enable quick recovery in case of disaster. My humble proposal in 
response is to NOT do that but rather backup each site to the other location. That way 
the DB is offsite as well as the primary copy, therefore DR copy of the primary is NOT 
needed either. I would do this reciprocally for the other site. In case of DR, data is 
locally available at the other site.

Is this not a better solution than configuring server-server communication and send a 
copy of the primary pool as well as the DB tape offsite.

Please help me understand what I may be missing in my proposal, or what benefits I 
dont see in the traditional DRM using Server-Server configuration.

Please advise!

Thank you,

Khalid Khan


Re: Server-Server DRM Configuration ...

2003-11-11 Thread Khan, Khalid B.
Daniel / Bill,

I do appreciate you both taking the time to share your expert opinion.

My scenario is correctly represented by Bill's response: I don't want to create copy 
(COPYPOOL) of the primary tapes (TAPEPOOL).

My daily backups, for both sites, are currently occurring centrally at one site. This 
totals to less than 100G a day. My plan is to split and reciprocally backup each site 
to the other as I indicated in my original email. My restore time would not be worse 
than it is now even during business hours, considering that I already restore from one 
central location today. In case of DR at one site, I am assuming that, disaster, site 
is out of the picture, and therefore the restores are going to be local to the DR 
servers at the other, recovery, site.

I wanted to confirm whether my idea is NOT out of the ordinary or against the best 
practices and you both helped a great deal towards that.

Thanks again to both of you!

Khalid Khan

-Original Message---
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Sparrman
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Server-Server DRM Configuration ...

Hi

Well, had some problems figuring out exactly what they wanted to do... :)

I dont know how large this installation is, but sending  100 clients over 
a 45Mbs link suggests to me that rebuilding one site after a total 
disaster will probably take more than a few days...

However, if Khalids installation is small(counting less than 100 clients, 
and a total amount of data at 5-10TB) perhaps this method could be used.

Also, as I understand it from Khalids description, hes not going to 
utilize dr copies(or, copypool volumes), as he considers the data to be 
off-site. However, normally, the TSM server contains alot of data that is 
no longer on the host system(archives, HSM data, versioning and so on). 
Therefore, loosing the TSM server and it's data, without having copypool 
volumes offsite, could cost you alot in terms of lost data...

I'd suggest either getting a FC connection between the two sites and 
utilize library sharing, or partitioning. Or, consider using iSCSI or FC 
over IP to copy the data to the remote library. iSCSI and FC over IP is 
alot faster and more tuned in handling theese kind of data transfers than 
IP is...

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
---
Daniel Sparrman
Exist i Stockholm AB
Propellervgen 6B
183 62 TBY
Vxel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51




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It doesn't sound like they are talking about the same thing. The 
consultant
sounds like he wants to backup SITE-A servers to the local TSM and then 
send
the copypool over to the other server via virtual volumes. Khalid wants to
backup SITE-A servers over the link directly to SITE-B TSM server. That 
way
when the backup is complete, the backup data is offsite to the original
server. If either site goes down, you'll still be rebuilding a TSM server,
but the clients can immediately start recovery because the data is on the
TSM server at the other site.

I've recently set up this configuration for a client. Each TSM server
creates copypool tapes that also go offsite (more for redundancy), but I
also have each server do a DBSnapshot across server-to-server in addition 
to
the DBBackup that goes offsite. Lots of redundancyit's a government
agency!

The only issue is the recoveries or just restores going across that link
during business hours.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

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Daniel Sparrman
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Hi Khalid

You and you're consultant are talking about the same procedure

To backup your primary site to the second site, you'll need to use
server-to-server virtual volumes(if you cant get a FC connection to your
library on your secondary site). You then define a devclass and a copypool
based on that devclass. After that, you'll just have to start the process
of backup stgpool primarypool copypool.

I cant see any other way of backing up the two servers to eachother rather
than using server-to-server communication. This method is also called
Electronic Vaulting and is a part of TSM Disaster Recovery Manager. You
cannot use any form of TSM backup/archive client procedure to backup the
server data, as the client wont have access to the information stored on
your tapes.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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