Re: Way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore to an alternate location?
Orin, I can confirm, what Bill has already told you, from first-hand experience using TDP for Exchange in W2K3 environment that it works flawlessly. You do not need to setup another temp. box to do that, this is the main purpose of RSG in W2K3! You do not need to dismount any production stores while your restoring either. Your time to recover a single mailbox depends on how big is your mailbox store which contains the mailbox. Once you have restored it to RSG you can either merge that data the data from that mailbox into the production or export it as a PST to open separately. These links may be of help to you: http://hellomate.typepad.com/exchange/2003/12/the_recovery_st.html http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/ue2k3 rsg.mspx __ Khalid B. Khan -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orin Rehorst Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:50 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore to an alternate location? We are trying to recover a single mailbox. We don't want to write over the data store and loose current data. We would like to use Exchange 2003 Recovery Storage Group. But we're afraid the restore will write over current data. Our current plan is to set up a temporary Exchange server, restore the TDP back there, and export the mailbox. Our tech support company estimates 20 hours for that job. Your comments would be appreciated. PS. It looks like I need to go to a brick level backup solution, don't you think? Regards, Orin Rehorst -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del Hoobler Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:19 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore to an alternate location? Orin, By default, Data Protection for Exchange will restore data back into the live Exchange Server and into the original storage group and database. The Microsoft Exchange Server requires that the database be dismounted for this operation. If that is not what you want, it would help to understand what exactly you are trying to do. Are you trying to restore in to an Exchange 2003 Recovery Storage Group? Are you trying to restore to a different server? Do you just want to restore the .EDB, .STM, and .LOG files so that you can manipulate them with 3rd-party tools? Thanks, Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 10/26/2006 05:14:37 PM: Is there a way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore to an alternate location? When I try a restore TSM first asks to close the datastore. TIA Orin Rehorst
Exchange 2003 Mailbox store backup
I would like to exclude the Public Folder database within a certain Storage Group (SG) in Exchange 2003 from FULL backup, but it seems that I can only specify SG for backup and not any specific Mailbox Store (database) within an SG. The TDPEXEC (GUI) even the TDPEXCC (CLI) backup all the databases within an SG. The only exception is the Database Copy backup type, but the downside is that this type of backup does not prune the transaction logs after successful backup. Am I missing anything? Can someone help me confirm that this is true or is there another method of achieving what I want to accomplish here. Thank you very much for any help and feedback. Khalid Khan Systems Engineer American Transmission Co. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exchange 2003 Mailbox store backup
Thank you very much Del. I knew about the logs being associated per SG, but did not put the two facts together. I guess my only other option is to create another SG and move the Public Folder db to it and exclude it. Thanks again for your feedback, much appreciated. Khalid -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del Hoobler Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:59 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 Mailbox store backup Khalid, This is not allowed because the transacation logs for an Exchange Storage Group are at the Storage Group level, not at the database level. If a backup product allowed you to do this, it would be letting you create backup that may not be recoverable in the event that you lost the disk that contained your public folder database. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler Tivoli Storage Manager Development IBM Corporation ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/30/2006 02:33:15 PM: I would like to exclude the Public Folder database within a certain Storage Group (SG) in Exchange 2003 from FULL backup, but it seems that I can only specify SG for backup and not any specific Mailbox Store (database) within an SG. The TDPEXEC (GUI) even the TDPEXCC (CLI) backup all the databases within an SG. The only exception is the Database Copy backup type, but the downside is that this type of backup does not prune the transaction logs after successful backup. Am I missing anything? Can someone help me confirm that this is true or is there another method of achieving what I want to accomplish here. Thank you very much for any help and feedback. Khalid Khan Systems Engineer American Transmission Co. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving TSM from one server to another!
Here is a good step-by-step procedure written by some good soul for the rest of us: http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg50019.html Khalid -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lawrence Clark Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Moving TSM from one server to another! Depends on your disk -we installed base TSM on a new machine - brought over the config files - moved the SSA disk holding the storage pools and DB - and came up [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/04/2004 4:08:30 PM Hi, please does anyone have step-by-step procedure for moving TSM from one machine to another. I am planning to move TSM to faster machine and I would be thankful if someone can help me! Platforms are: Source machine AIX 5.1 TSM 5.1.8.0 Destination machineAIX 5.2 TSM 5.2.2.0 Best regards Mladen Portak
Archiving does not delete directories ???
Can someone please explain to me why TSM client does not delete the directory structure of the archived files? I am using the deletefiles option, but the client leaves the directories on the file system and successfully deletes the files within those directories. Is there something I can do to delete the directories together with the files? Please advise. Thank you, Khalid Khan ATC
Re: Archiving does not delete directories ???
Andy, Thank you very much for the explanation, your point is well take. Also thank you for the script. I suppose I can create a schedule and use COMMAND as the ACTION for the schedule and use your script to run it. That should work, correct? Khalid -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Archiving does not delete directories ??? The -DELETEFILES option was originally designed to operate on files only, not directories (as was the original implementation of ARCHIVE). The -DELETEFILES option is not designed to differentiate between archive of full trees and archives of partial trees. For example, in which cases should TSM delete the entire directory structure? dsmc archive c:\mydir\*.txt -deletefiles dsmc archive c:\mydir\ -deletefiles What if there are files excluded from the archive via EXCLUDE statements in your client options file, or a file otherwise fails to be archived? Should TSM still delete the entire directory structure? What if there are subdirectories of c:\mydir, but -subdir=yes is not specified? Should TSM still delete the entire directory structure? In principle, what you ask is not necessarily unreasonable. It's just not something that TSM is set up for (and it is not trivial, as the above questions suggest). Consider opening a requirement if this function is valuable to you. If you do open a requirement, it would help if you could elaborate on how you think the function should behave in scenarios such as those I describe above. That is, under what circumstances should or should not TSM presume to delete the directory tree? In the mean time, you can simulate this function for yourself if you wish. For example, the following Windows script can do what you ask (note that this is only an example, use at your own risk). REM BEGIN SCRIPT @echo off if {%1} == {} goto :USAGE pushd c:\tsm\baclient dsmc archive %* -deletefiles if not %errorlevel% equ 0 ( echo TSM archive function ended with return code %errorlevel%. echo Directories will not be deleted. goto :END ) :TOP if {%1} == {} goto :END echo. echo Deleting directory %1 rd /s /q %1 shift goto :TOP :USAGE echo Usage: ARCHDEL dir1\ [dir2\ ...] echo. echoExample: archdel c:\mydir\ echoExample: archdel c:\mydir\ e:\yourdir\ f:\herdir\ echoExample: archdel c:\my directory\ t:\junk\ echo. echoNote: When enclosing a directory in quotes, echo put a blank space between the ending echo '\' and the ending quote. :END popd REM END SCRIPT Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Khan, Khalid B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/2004 08:00 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Archiving does not delete directories ??? Can someone please explain to me why TSM client does not delete the directory structure of the archived files? I am using the deletefiles option, but the client leaves the directories on the file system and successfully deletes the files within those directories. Is there something I can do to delete the directories together with the files? Please advise. Thank you, Khalid Khan ATC
Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups
I sent a message to Bill Boyer yesterday, but not sure if he got it or not. Here is the message again: I don't have the problem but I am backing the SYSTEM OBJECTS without any problems on a W2K DC. My client option.dsm has the exclude for ntds dir, which is recommended by TSM guide. My SYSTEM OBJECTS include the Active Directory object and it is equal to my AD database. I DID have very similar problem but it was due to virus scanner not TSM backup client. It caused logs to increment perpetually; see Q298551, and especially Q284947 for resolution to your problems. Make sure to setup virus scanner to exclude the NTDS directory. Also make sure your edb.chk file exists, otherwise above situation can occur. See Q247715. I had to do an offline defrag of the AD. Also I moved the AD log location from the C (boot partition) to another bigger drive; recommended by MS to do so. This too you can only do through the ntdsutil in AD offline mode. Khalid Khan ATC, LLC -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, Matt (US - Hermitage) Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups We are having a similar problem and 5.1.6.7 did not resolve the problem. We are currently testing 5.2.0.3 on one of our problem Domain Controllers. So far so good. -Original Message- From: Bill Boyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups There are months worth of these 10MB EDBx.LOG files. Is there an easy way to remove them? I can upgrade the client today to 5.1.6.7. Will the next backup cause AD to remove these old log files? Bill -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups Anyone have problems of this sort? The client level is 5.1.0.1 (I know..upgrade!) Yes, you inadvertently answered your own question :-) This could be APAR IC33389 that you are experiencing. You can go to http://www.ibm.com and search on the APAR number for details. Fixed in 5.1.5 and up (I recommend latest 5.1.6 patch level). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Bill Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/2003 16:52 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:AD Circular Logging and TSM backups I have a client that just forwarded me a note saying that the TSM client is causing problems with the active directory circular logging. here's the text he sent me: (See Microsoft Article) http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272425Product=w in20 00 Issue: - Buildup of Active Directory log files (total size over 2 gigabytes) on system drive C:\. - Circular logging is enabled but not working correctly due to an interruption by the Tivoli Backup Client. Corrective Action: - Remove the System State Backup option from Tivoli nightly backups. - Ensure the version of Ntbackup.exe is 5.0.2195.2104 or greater. - Create a nightly scheduled Ntbackup.exe of the System State to a location on the server s local drive (Tivoli will back this up). - Check c:\winnt\ntds\ directory periodically to ensure log files are being truncated. Looking at the microsoft article, it is a problem with AD, not TSM and is supposedly fixed on SP2 for Win2k. I've searched IBM and adsm.org but didn't find any hits. I have other clients that backup Win2k AD with no problems and have actually done BMR restores. Anyone have problems of this sort? The client level is 5.1.0.1 (I know..upgrade!) and the TSM server is AIX 4.3.3 TSM 5.1.7.2. They want me to implement the -SYSTEMOBJECT and the NTBACKUP solution right away. I don't know what SP level the Win2k server is at. There is an Exclude.dir *:\...\NTDS in the client optionset. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
Re: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups
I don't have the problem but I am backing the SYSTEM OBJECTS without any problems on a W2K DC. My client option.dsm also has the exclude for \ntds dir. One major known issue is the anti-virus scanning can cause logs to increment perpetually, see Q298551, and especially Q284947! Also make sure your edb.chk file exists, otherwise above situation can occur. See Q247715. I had similar problem previously, but it was not due to TSM; I had to do an offline defrag of the AD. Also I moved the AD log location from the C (boot partition) to another bigger drive it is recommended by MS to do so. This too you can only do through the ntdsutil in AD offline mode. Khalid -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Boyer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AD Circular Logging and TSM backups I have a client that just forwarded me a note saying that the TSM client is causing problems with the active directory circular logging. here's the text he sent me: (See Microsoft Article) http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272425Product=win20 00 Issue: - Buildup of Active Directory log files (total size over 2 gigabytes) on system drive C:\. - Circular logging is enabled but not working correctly due to an interruption by the Tivoli Backup Client. Corrective Action: - Remove the System State Backup option from Tivoli nightly backups. - Ensure the version of Ntbackup.exe is 5.0.2195.2104 or greater. - Create a nightly scheduled Ntbackup.exe of the System State to a location on the server s local drive (Tivoli will back this up). - Check c:\winnt\ntds\ directory periodically to ensure log files are being truncated. Looking at the microsoft article, it is a problem with AD, not TSM and is supposedly fixed on SP2 for Win2k. I've searched IBM and adsm.org but didn't find any hits. I have other clients that backup Win2k AD with no problems and have actually done BMR restores. Anyone have problems of this sort? The client level is 5.1.0.1 (I know..upgrade!) and the TSM server is AIX 4.3.3 TSM 5.1.7.2. They want me to implement the -SYSTEMOBJECT and the NTBACKUP solution right away. I don't know what SP level the Win2k server is at. There is an Exclude.dir *:\...\NTDS in the client optionset. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc.
Re: TSM, Active Directory, Example dsm.opt File
Paul, I do daily incrementals on my servers. I have not restored a DC yet, but I have successfully restored non-DC server's System Objects files successfully. Only real issue would be to do an authoritative AD restore, where you are exclusively overwriting AD database. Other than that the regular AD restore should be easy, since other DCs in your domain will update the restored DC's db via replication after restore. Check out section 6.2.4 of Redbook sg246141.pdf. It talks specifically about what you want to do. I will be conducting an AD restore before the end of this year as a test. I will share my experience then. Khalid -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Strobeck Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM, Active Directory, Example dsm.opt File Khalid Thanks!...I just discovered that Redbook yesterday and I am working my way through it...Follow-up questions for you: Are you using TSM to backup the Sytem Object--Daily-Weekly-Monthly on your DC's? Have you ever had to restore a DC with TSM? Thanks! ...Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scheduler service on MSCS cluster
Guillaume, It is very important that you start and enter the password for one server only among the cluster nodes. This will write the password to its registry. Later when you fail over this node via the NT Cluster Administrator the registry password will be entered on the additional node(s). Otherwise there will be different registry passwords on each node(s) and the backups will fail. Khalid B. Khan Network Engineer American Transmission Co. The Energy Access Company www.atcllc.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Gilbert Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Scheduler service on MSCS cluster Hi All I have a problem installing a scheduling service on a Win2k MSCS cluster. When I run dsmc q se and generate the password, everything is fine. When I run the dsmcutil command to install the scheduler service, I get the following error in dsmerror.log : 11/13/2003 11:00:27 ReadPswdFromRegistry(): getRegValue(): Win32 RC=2 . 11/13/2003 11:00:27 sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication. In dsmsched.log, there is a prompt for a user id and then a communication error. I run the command exactly as it says in the Wundows User's guide. Clusternode yes and passwordaccesss generate are in the dsm.opt file. The two local nodes are working fine and a backup was run last night with no problems. Client is at 5.1.5.15 and server is on sun 2.8 version 5.1.6.5 Thanks for any help Guillaume Gilbert Backup Administrator CGI - ITM (514) 415-3000 x5091 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TSM, Active Directory, Example dsm.opt File
Check the guide on Deploying Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows 2000 it will detail an example of the dsm.opt. Which is where I built my from. Here is my dsm.opt from one of the DC with AD running: TCPSERVERADDRESS A.B.C.D PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE SCHEDMODE POLLING SCHEDLOGR 20 D ERRORLOGR 20 D COMPression ON TXNBYTELIMIT 25600 QUERYSCHEDPERIOD 6 DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL COMPRESSALWAYS YES EXCLUDE C:\I386\...\* EXCLUDE C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\...\* Exclude *:\pagefile.sys Exclude *:\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\* Exclude *:\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*.* Exclude *:\...\Profiles\...\ntuser.dat* Exclude *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat EXCLUDE C:\WINNT\system32\CPL.CFG EXCLUDE C:\WINNT\system32\*.dat EXCLUDE *.dmp EXCLUDE *.tmp EXCLUDE *.msg EXCLUDE *:\WINNT\DEBUG\*.* Exclude.dir *:\...\NTDS Exclude.dir C:\Documents and Settings Exclude.dir C:\temp Exclude.dir D:\Temp Exclude.dir E:\Temp Exclude.dir D:\Spool Exclude.dir F:\Temp Exclude.dir F:\I386 Exclude.dir *:\...\system32\wins Exclude.dir *:\...\system32\LServer Exclude.dir *:\...\system32\dhcp Exclude.dir *:\...\system32\config Exclude.dir *:\...\ntfrs\jet Exclude.dir *:\System Volume Information Exclude.dir *:\...\Temporary Internet Files Exclude.dir *:\Recycled Exclude.dir *:\Recycler INCLUDE *.pst PST INCLUDE *:\ADSM.SYS\...\* I hope this helps. Khalid Khan -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Strobeck Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM, Active Directory, Example dsm.opt File Greetings We are currently getting ready to move over to Windows 2K...We will be using TSM to backup 4 DC's...what are the recommended include/excludes? Can anyone provide a sample dsm.opt file for Windows 2K DC using AD? Specifically--are folks who are using TSM to backup Windows 2K using it to backup the Active Directory? Any help is most appreciated. ...Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Server-Server DRM Configuration ...
I have a humble question regarding the benefits of Server-Server communication. I have two sites 60 miles apart with 45MB pipe in between, and each of them has a TSM server and a library. I was proposed by a TSM consultant to establish server-server DRM configuration to enable quick recovery in case of disaster. My humble proposal in response is to NOT do that but rather backup each site to the other location. That way the DB is offsite as well as the primary copy, therefore DR copy of the primary is NOT needed either. I would do this reciprocally for the other site. In case of DR, data is locally available at the other site. Is this not a better solution than configuring server-server communication and send a copy of the primary pool as well as the DB tape offsite. Please help me understand what I may be missing in my proposal, or what benefits I dont see in the traditional DRM using Server-Server configuration. Please advise! Thank you, Khalid Khan
Re: Server-Server DRM Configuration ...
Daniel / Bill, I do appreciate you both taking the time to share your expert opinion. My scenario is correctly represented by Bill's response: I don't want to create copy (COPYPOOL) of the primary tapes (TAPEPOOL). My daily backups, for both sites, are currently occurring centrally at one site. This totals to less than 100G a day. My plan is to split and reciprocally backup each site to the other as I indicated in my original email. My restore time would not be worse than it is now even during business hours, considering that I already restore from one central location today. In case of DR at one site, I am assuming that, disaster, site is out of the picture, and therefore the restores are going to be local to the DR servers at the other, recovery, site. I wanted to confirm whether my idea is NOT out of the ordinary or against the best practices and you both helped a great deal towards that. Thanks again to both of you! Khalid Khan -Original Message--- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Sparrman Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Server-Server DRM Configuration ... Hi Well, had some problems figuring out exactly what they wanted to do... :) I dont know how large this installation is, but sending 100 clients over a 45Mbs link suggests to me that rebuilding one site after a total disaster will probably take more than a few days... However, if Khalids installation is small(counting less than 100 clients, and a total amount of data at 5-10TB) perhaps this method could be used. Also, as I understand it from Khalids description, hes not going to utilize dr copies(or, copypool volumes), as he considers the data to be off-site. However, normally, the TSM server contains alot of data that is no longer on the host system(archives, HSM data, versioning and so on). Therefore, loosing the TSM server and it's data, without having copypool volumes offsite, could cost you alot in terms of lost data... I'd suggest either getting a FC connection between the two sites and utilize library sharing, or partitioning. Or, consider using iSCSI or FC over IP to copy the data to the remote library. iSCSI and FC over IP is alot faster and more tuned in handling theese kind of data transfers than IP is... Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervgen 6B 183 62 TBY Vxel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Bill Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-11 16:55 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Server-Server DRM Configuration ... It doesn't sound like they are talking about the same thing. The consultant sounds like he wants to backup SITE-A servers to the local TSM and then send the copypool over to the other server via virtual volumes. Khalid wants to backup SITE-A servers over the link directly to SITE-B TSM server. That way when the backup is complete, the backup data is offsite to the original server. If either site goes down, you'll still be rebuilding a TSM server, but the clients can immediately start recovery because the data is on the TSM server at the other site. I've recently set up this configuration for a client. Each TSM server creates copypool tapes that also go offsite (more for redundancy), but I also have each server do a DBSnapshot across server-to-server in addition to the DBBackup that goes offsite. Lots of redundancyit's a government agency! The only issue is the recoveries or just restores going across that link during business hours. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Sparrman Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Server-Server DRM Configuration ... Hi Khalid You and you're consultant are talking about the same procedure To backup your primary site to the second site, you'll need to use server-to-server virtual volumes(if you cant get a FC connection to your library on your secondary site). You then define a devclass and a copypool based on that devclass. After that, you'll just have to start the process of backup stgpool primarypool copypool. I cant see any other way of backing up the two servers to eachother rather than using server-to-server communication. This method is also called Electronic Vaulting and is a part of TSM Disaster Recovery Manager. You cannot use any form of TSM backup/archive client procedure to backup the server data, as the client wont have access to the information stored on your tapes. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervdgen 6B 183 62 TDBY Vdxel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Khan, Khalid B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist