Re: [AFMUG] Cheap PC with OBM

[Lewis Bergman]

HPE D20 is only 15 inches deep and 1U.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:20 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> Short of stuffing a rack sized server out in the field, is there a small
> Form factor PC that has full Out of band management (KVM on a separate
> Ethernet interface)  I need to run some testing which will involve
> changing the PC Address a bunch of times, and I don't want to mess with
> Firewall/NAT/re-Login every time I do it.  For Testing purposes, it
> needs to be a windows PC.
>
> In years gone by, I think I had a standalone KVM/Network adapter. But I
> think it was VGA Only, and probably PS/2 keyboard/mouse.  And it was
> kludgey at best.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog

[Lewis Bergman]

No cup holders. Evidently they are pro drinking, but not pro drinking in
the car.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 5:54 PM Daniel White  wrote:

> German cars in general are very different but once you get used to their
> design quirks you miss them in American made/Japanese made cars.
>
> [image: photograph]
> Daniel White
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> Ryan Hill wrote on 10/25/19 06:56:
>
> Cars are getting more like Apple vs Mac, iOS vs Android
>
> We’re making the jump from GMC to Audi this weekend, and the learning
> curve is looking steep.
>
>
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> On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM,   wrote:
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> Rented a Mercedes at Nice to go visit some caves a couple hours West.  I
> am totally handicapped now with my Leaf’s adaptive cruise control and lane
> keeping.  Just about rear-ended some cars after setting the cruise
> control.  Also am apt to take my hands off the wheel.
>
> I am surprised such a new Mercedes does not have adaptive cruise control.
> At least if it does I cannot figure out how to use it.  The sat-nav
> operation was totally unintuitive.  Had a weird touch pad thing in the
> center console.  Very difficult to program in a destination address.
>
> Never drove a Mercedes before.  Not likely to again.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog

[Daniel White]

German cars in general are very different but once you get used to their 
design quirks you miss them in American made/Japanese made cars.


photograph  
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Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations
phone: +1 (702) 470-2766
direct:+1 (702) 470-2770

Ryan Hill wrote on 10/25/19 06:56:

Cars are getting more like Apple vs Mac, iOS vs Android

We’re making the jump from GMC to Audi this weekend, and the learning 
curve is looking steep.






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*Amplex I**nternet*
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On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, > mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:


Rented a Mercedes at Nice to go visit some caves a couple hours West. 
I am totally handicapped now with my Leaf’s adaptive cruise control 
and lane keeping.  Just about rear-ended some cars after setting the 
cruise control.  Also am apt to take my hands off the wheel.
I am surprised such a new Mercedes does not have adaptive cruise 
control.  At least if it does I cannot figure out how to use it.  The 
sat-nav operation was totally unintuitive.  Had a weird touch pad 
thing in the center console.  Very difficult to program in a 
destination address.

Never drove a Mercedes before.  Not likely to again.
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Re: [AFMUG] Cheap PC with OBM

[Colin Stanners]

>From my research into this, you may want to look into Lantronix Spider KVM
or https://www.kvm-switches-online.com/eric-g4.html or the replacement card
listed in that link.


On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:20 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> Short of stuffing a rack sized server out in the field, is there a small
> Form factor PC that has full Out of band management (KVM on a separate
> Ethernet interface)  I need to run some testing which will involve
> changing the PC Address a bunch of times, and I don't want to mess with
> Firewall/NAT/re-Login every time I do it.  For Testing purposes, it
> needs to be a windows PC.
>
> In years gone by, I think I had a standalone KVM/Network adapter. But I
> think it was VGA Only, and probably PS/2 keyboard/mouse.  And it was
> kludgey at best.
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[AFMUG] FS - AF5X radios

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Qtyx13 - AF5X 5ghz radios USED working pulls, comes with all accessories
$190/each

send email to k...@wavelinc.com
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[AFMUG] Cheap PC with OBM

[Nate Burke]

Short of stuffing a rack sized server out in the field, is there a small 
Form factor PC that has full Out of band management (KVM on a separate 
Ethernet interface)  I need to run some testing which will involve 
changing the PC Address a bunch of times, and I don't want to mess with 
Firewall/NAT/re-Login every time I do it.  For Testing purposes, it 
needs to be a windows PC.


In years gone by, I think I had a standalone KVM/Network adapter. But I 
think it was VGA Only, and probably PS/2 keyboard/mouse.  And it was 
kludgey at best.


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Re: [AFMUG] callsigns for each licensed PTP link

[Seth Mattinen]

On 10/25/19 10:19, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
For licensed Point to Point links (11ghz) is it common practice to get a 
separate FCC call sign for each link or can one call sign be used to 
have multiple links?


What is the best way to do it? Assuming I would never sell one of the 
links or transfer a license in the future.



One call sign as long as you keep all your gear within 1 arcsecond of 
what the coords on the license are.


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Re: [AFMUG] callsigns for each licensed PTP link

[Tim Hardy]

This is correct - one call sign per station in the licensed, fixed pt-to-pt 
bands, at least that is what the FCC prefers.  However, if you are adding a 
path to an existing station (one that has a call sign) and file the application 
as “New”, the FCC will grant a new, separate call sign for the facilities on 
this new application.  From an FCC fee perspective, this kind of licensing will 
cost you more money - higher application fees, separate license renewal fees, 
etc.  This happens more than it should when coordinators fail to properly 
search for a call sign prior to filing the applications.

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> 
> On 10/25/19 10:19, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>> For licensed Point to Point links (11ghz) is it common practice to get a 
>> separate FCC call sign for each link or can one call sign be used to have 
>> multiple links?
>> What is the best way to do it? Assuming I would never sell one of the links 
>> or transfer a license in the future.
> 
> 
> One call sign as long as you keep all your gear within 1 arcsecond of what 
> the coords on the license are.
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Re: [AFMUG] callsigns for each licensed PTP link

[Ken Hohhof]

I didn’t think it was your choice.  Also, isn’t the call sign for the site not 
the path?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 12:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] callsigns for each licensed PTP link

 

For licensed Point to Point links (11ghz) is it common practice to get a 
separate FCC call sign for each link or can one call sign be used to have 
multiple links?

 

What is the best way to do it? Assuming I would never sell one of the links or 
transfer a license in the future.

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[AFMUG] callsigns for each licensed PTP link

[Kurt Fankhauser]

For licensed Point to Point links (11ghz) is it common practice to get a
separate FCC call sign for each link or can one call sign be used to have
multiple links?

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] T-Mobile plans to cover 200 million consumerswith 5G by end of the year

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

This is true (for us) as long as long as the wifi connection is the same speed 
or slower than the cellular.
Deal with cable or fiber and it isn't the case.

My current home connection (no fiber and the trees took out my 900 mhz link), i 
have 100 meg spectrum
that comes in somewhere around 55 meg.  My cellphone wifi through verizon hits 
11 meg almost everytime
i try it.  

Our family has lake rental properties.  You can give up getting a verizon 
signal there.  ATT comes in but is 
flaky.  Wifi through ATT comes in at about 5 meg.  Our fixed wireless is 30+.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ken Hohhof 
  To: memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] T-Mobile plans to cover 200 million 
consumerswith 5G by end of the year


  All the buzz is about peak speed from basestation to mobile device, but I 
think there are other factors, especially as regards competition for WISPs.  I 
think data caps, prices, and backhaul capacity are big considerations that 
don’t get talked about much.

   

  I’m already seeing customers bitch or actually cancel their home Internet, 
saying “my cellphone downloads faster if I turn off WiFi”.  This has nothing to 
do  with 5G.  They are correct that 4G LTE can typically download at 25 Mbps on 
a lightly loaded cell tower which is usually the case in rural areas.  And 
people already have cellphones with data plans and increasingly use their 
phones for everything.  So using cellular data is essentially free because they 
have it anyway.  Maybe instead of cancelling their WISP service, they could 
increase their speed tier to something above our lowest speed, but that would 
cost money.  Cellular doesn’t have speed tiers, it’s best effort.  But for now, 
the customer does a speed test and decides it’s faster,  at least faster than 
our lowest speed tier.

   

  I really wonder what’s going to happen if companies like T-Mobile/Sprint 
really go after the rural fixed wireless market.  I look at the backhauls to 
cell towers in our area, and most of them have exactly the same as us, it’s a 
gigabit microwave link to another tower.  Those are not easily upgraded to 10 
or 100 gigabits.  They would have to run fiber to all the towers, which is 
something they haven’t chosen to do yet.  One tower we are on along with VZ 
Wireless, they put in handholes about 5 years ago like they were going to run 
fiber out from town, but then decided against it and ran a 6 GHz link from 
another tower 5 miles away.  A few of their towers are fiber fed, but the 
majority are fed via microwave links.

   

  Then there’s the issue of data caps and pricing.  If people really start 
ditching their cable or WISP broadband at home for 4G/5G cellular, how long 
before the speeds either plummet or they start imposing/enforcing data caps?  I 
think most of the “unlimited” plans actually have fine print that says you can 
be slowed to 3G speed if the network is congested.  Will the cellular carriers 
really build their infrastructure so people can use unlimited data at 5G or 
even 4G speeds, even while at home?  It seems to me that data caps and premium 
pricing will come into effect.  Maybe not in dense urban areas where they can 
really run fiber to every light pole.  But what about WISP territory?

   

  For now though,  I’m actually losing customers to cellular, and 5G has 
nothing to do with it, not even the 5G hype.  There was a wave of this several 
years back basically because people had family share plans and could add a 
mobile hotspot for like $20/month, but most of them ran into the monthly data 
cap on hotspot usage.  Now I think it’s driven partly by the shift to doing 
everything on your phone.  So the kids whine that apps download faster on 
cellular data so the parents ask why are we paying for home Internet if it’s 
not making our phones faster?

   

   

   

  From: members-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of Mike 
Wendy
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:52 AM
  To: memb...@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] T-Mobile plans to cover 200 million consumers 
with 5G by end of the year

   

  Or, “infini-G,” as Nathan put it.

   

  From: members-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of 
Darin Steffl
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:39 AM
  To: memb...@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] T-Mobile plans to cover 200 million consumers 
with 5G by end of the year

   

  Nathan at Wisper has 9G guys!! So one of us needs to claim 10G

   

  On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:08 AM Kurt Fankhauser  
wrote:

There was a guy at WISPAlooza claiming to have 9G in his network now, lol

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:39 AM Forbes Mercy  
wrote:

  Ya well I have 6G!

   

  On Oct 24, 2019 9:37 AM, alex phillips  wrote:

Sounds like what they are saying is their 5G will be just as fast as 
what you have now 4G, just work in more places.  

 

[AFMUG] [FS] For Sale - House Cleaning

[Cassidy B. Larson]

Cleaning out a few of the storage units.. have a bunch of stuff I’d like to 
find a new home for.

KP Performance Reflector Dish for Cambium RK24EWIFIDBI 4-pack (NEW in box!) - 
26 cases
Ignite ML-60-35+Mount - QTY2
UBNT AirMax Sector AM-5G20 - QTY10
UBNT AirMax Sector AM-5G19 - QTY5
Cambium ePMP 1000 C058900P132A - QTY23
Cambium PMP430 SM (5790SM) - 10M keyed - QTY100’s :)

Shoot me an email if interested.

Thanks!

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Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

[chuck]

Arrgh...

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 4:59 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

Yeah, you’re right, if I click past the certificate error, I get that.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

 



 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:27 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

 

I get an HTTPS certificate error.

 

Depending on what browser you use, some are very strict about certs.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

 

www.afmug.com doesn't work for me

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:35 PM  wrote:

  There seems to be normal amounts of traffic to me.

   

  From: Colin Stanners 

  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:23 PM

  To: Chuck McCown 

  Subject: AFMUG.com website seems down?

   

   

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Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

[dave via AF]

These are not the droids your looking for..


On 10/24/19 11:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

There seems to be normal amounts of traffic to me.
*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:23 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* AFMUG.com website seems down?



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Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

[Ken Hohhof]

Yeah, you’re right, if I click past the certificate error, I get that.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

 



 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:27 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

 

I get an HTTPS certificate error.

 

Depending on what browser you use, some are very strict about certs.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

 

www.afmug.com   doesn't work for me

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:35 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

There seems to be normal amounts of traffic to me.

 

From: Colin Stanners 

Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:23 PM

To: Chuck McCown 

Subject: AFMUG.com website seems down?

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

[Bill Prince]

  
  

bp



On 10/25/2019 7:38 AM, Craig Schmaderer
  wrote:


  [cid:image001.png@01D58B17.F8C7CCD0]

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:27 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

I get an HTTPS certificate error.

Depending on what browser you use, some are very strict about certs.


From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

www.afmug.com doesn't work for me

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:35 PM  wrote:
There seems to be normal amounts of traffic to me.

From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:23 PM
To: Chuck McCown
Subject: AFMUG.com website seems down?


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Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

[Craig Schmaderer]

[cid:image001.png@01D58B17.F8C7CCD0]

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:27 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

I get an HTTPS certificate error.

Depending on what browser you use, some are very strict about certs.


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

www.afmug.com doesn't work for me

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:35 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
There seems to be normal amounts of traffic to me.

From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:23 PM
To: Chuck McCown
Subject: AFMUG.com website seems down?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT France

[Bill Prince]

Maybe that's why Paris has that famous "smell" problem? People aren't 
willing to pay, so every shrub/tree in town becomes a urinal?



bp


On 10/24/2019 11:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

The worst thing about France is pay to pee.  I always seem to forget about that.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

[Ken Hohhof]

I get an HTTPS certificate error.

 

Depending on what browser you use, some are very strict about certs.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

 

www.afmug.com   doesn't work for me

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:35 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

There seems to be normal amounts of traffic to me.

 

From: Colin Stanners 

Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:23 PM

To: Chuck McCown 

Subject: AFMUG.com website seems down?

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

[Christopher Tyler]

+1

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- Original Message -
From: "Mathew Howard" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:58:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

[ http://www.afmug.com/ | www.afmug.com ] doesn't work for me 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:35 PM < [ mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com | ch...@wbmfg.com ] 
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There seems to be normal amounts of traffic to me. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT France

[Jaime Solorza]

Try practicing your Spanish...you get better results...my friends and
family do that while in Europe but especially France.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 12:16 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> The worst thing about France is pay to pee.  I always seem to forget about
> that.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?

[Mathew Howard]

www.afmug.com doesn't work for me

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:35 PM  wrote:

> There seems to be normal amounts of traffic to me.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog

[Darin Steffl]

Guys,

To buy anything new other than a Tesla today would be a huge regret.

I've had my Model 3 since September 2018 and it's the best thing I've
driven. Fastest, quietest, most fun car and top notch infotainment on the
giant screen. I've been in Honda, Toyota, chevy, Dodge, Ferrari,
Lamborghini, Maserati, audi, Lexus, Mercedes, Lincoln, Cadillac, etc. And
nothing comes close to the fun and performance of a Tesla.

I encourage everyone to go test drive any of the 3 Tesla models available
today before purchasing any other vehicles. I'll never buy a gas vehicle
again after this car. The Tesla truck will replace our Silverado in a few
years when it starts being produced.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 8:22 AM Craig Schmaderer 
wrote:

> I rented a Model X on my vacation last week.  I will forever be let down
> getting into any other car…..It is an absolutely amazing car. I
> hope I like the Tesla Truck, it will be mine in 2-3 years when it comes
> out.  
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Ryan Hill
> *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 7:57 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog
>
>
>
> Cars are getting more like Apple vs Mac, iOS vs Android
>
>
>
> We’re making the jump from GMC to Audi this weekend, and the learning
> curve is looking steep.
>
>
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>
> * Ryan Hill *
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> On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM,   wrote:
>
>
>
> Rented a Mercedes at Nice to go visit some caves a couple hours West.  I
> am totally handicapped now with my Leaf’s adaptive cruise control and lane
> keeping.  Just about rear-ended some cars after setting the cruise
> control.  Also am apt to take my hands off the wheel.
>
>
>
> I am surprised such a new Mercedes does not have adaptive cruise control.
> At least if it does I cannot figure out how to use it.  The sat-nav
> operation was totally unintuitive.  Had a weird touch pad thing in the
> center console.  Very difficult to program in a destination address.
>
>
>
> Never drove a Mercedes before.  Not likely to again.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT France

[Gino A. Villarini]

Paris was 5 out of 10, Really enjoyed Reims, Epernay and the Champagne region , 
an also the Alsace region


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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, October 25, 2019 at 2:16 AM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT France

The worst thing about France is pay to pee. I always seem to forget about that.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog

[Craig Schmaderer]

I rented a Model X on my vacation last week.  I will forever be let down 
getting into any other car…..It is an absolutely amazing car. I hope I 
like the Tesla Truck, it will be mine in 2-3 years when it comes out.  

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ryan Hill
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 7:57 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog

Cars are getting more like Apple vs Mac, iOS vs Android

We’re making the jump from GMC to Audi this weekend, and the learning curve is 
looking steep.






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On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Rented a Mercedes at Nice to go visit some caves a couple hours West.  I am 
totally handicapped now with my Leaf’s adaptive cruise control and lane 
keeping.  Just about rear-ended some cars after setting the cruise control.  
Also am apt to take my hands off the wheel.

I am surprised such a new Mercedes does not have adaptive cruise control.  At 
least if it does I cannot figure out how to use it.  The sat-nav operation was 
totally unintuitive.  Had a weird touch pad thing in the center console.  Very 
difficult to program in a destination address.

Never drove a Mercedes before.  Not likely to again.
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Re: [AFMUG] Falling Foliage

[dave via AF]

drone with Flame thrower LOL


On 10/25/19 7:41 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I wonder how strong a laser would have to be?  And then there is the 
fire risk.  Drones with agent orange would do the trick.  Drone with 
chainsaw.  Drone with shotgun.


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 24, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:



I can not confirm or deny that I may or may not have used that method 
before.




On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:47 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


lol, thats awesome

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 4:05 PM Robert Andrews
mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Talked to a customer that has a tree that likes to grow into
the line of
sight.   He clears it once or twice a year.   Didn't ever ask
him how he
cleared it, it's about 50-60 feet up.   Today he volunteered his
solution while we were talking about his service.

"I shotgun it.   Use bird shot, does a great job. 10 minutes
including
the walk down to the tree and back"   "Neighbors complain,
but it's only
once or twice a year."...

Well ok then...

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Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog

[Ryan Hill]

Cars are getting more like Apple vs Mac, iOS vs Android

We’re making the jump from GMC to Audi this weekend, and the learning curve is 
looking steep.





  
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 Amplex Internet
  (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 
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> On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM,   wrote:
> 
> Rented a Mercedes at Nice to go visit some caves a couple hours West.  I am 
> totally handicapped now with my Leaf’s adaptive cruise control and lane 
> keeping.  Just about rear-ended some cars after setting the cruise control.  
> Also am apt to take my hands off the wheel. 
>  
> I am surprised such a new Mercedes does not have adaptive cruise control.  At 
> least if it does I cannot figure out how to use it.  The sat-nav operation 
> was totally unintuitive.  Had a weird touch pad thing in the center console.  
> Very difficult to program in a destination address. 
>  
> Never drove a Mercedes before.  Not likely to again. 
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[AFMUG] OT travelog

[chuck]

Rented a Mercedes at Nice to go visit some caves a couple hours West.  I am 
totally handicapped now with my Leaf’s adaptive cruise control and lane 
keeping.  Just about rear-ended some cars after setting the cruise control.  
Also am apt to take my hands off the wheel.  

I am surprised such a new Mercedes does not have adaptive cruise control.  At 
least if it does I cannot figure out how to use it.  The sat-nav operation was 
totally unintuitive.  Had a weird touch pad thing in the center console.  Very 
difficult to program in a destination address.  

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Re: [AFMUG] Falling Foliage

[Chuck McCown]

I wonder how strong a laser would have to be?  And then there is the fire risk. 
 Drones with agent orange would do the trick.  Drone with chainsaw.  Drone with 
shotgun.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Jason Wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
> I can not confirm or deny that I may or may not have used that method before. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:47 PM Kurt Fankhauser  
>> wrote:
>> lol, thats awesome
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 4:05 PM Robert Andrews  
>>> wrote:
>>> Talked to a customer that has a tree that likes to grow into the line of 
>>> sight.   He clears it once or twice a year.   Didn't ever ask him how he 
>>> cleared it, it's about 50-60 feet up.   Today he volunteered his 
>>> solution while we were talking about his service.
>>> 
>>> "I shotgun it.   Use bird shot, does a great job.  10 minutes including 
>>> the walk down to the tree and back"   "Neighbors complain, but it's only 
>>> once or twice a year."...
>>> 
>>> Well ok then...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT France

[Lewis Bergman]

I can think of so many worse things about France than that. Ughhhshould
have let the Germans have that place.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 1:16 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> The worst thing about France is pay to pee.  I always seem to forget about
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[AFMUG] OT France

[Chuck McCown]

The worst thing about France is pay to pee.  I always seem to forget about that.

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