Re: [AFMUG] Heat estimate

[Jaime Solorza]

Size matters when keeping components cool in our enclosures...many are in
direct sunlight...we use extreme weather devices plus heating and cooling
solutions.

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 12:10 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Fans convert pretty much 100% to heat energy.
>
> https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/201506/physicshistory.cfm
>
>
>
> Yeah it's pretty much always an unmanned environment.  No women either.
>
> When you're cooling a house, the surface area facing the outside and the
> number of door & window penetrations is a big deal, but POP sites are
> usually in a space the size of a walk-in closet with one door.  So I'm
> pretty sure that the heat generated in the room is what I need to worry
> about, but I'm not sure how well a resistance heater translates to
> electronics.  I'm also fuzzy on power consumed by fans.  Kinetic energy and
> heat are really the same thing, right?  Right?
>
> Maybe when I'm rich, bored, and retired I'll put servers inside of a water
> jacket and measure their actual heat output.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of D. Bernardi
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 5:03 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Heat estimate
>
>
>
> Not directly related but when I researched cooling for a new datacenter the
> key was efficient airflow (or even hot isle/cold isle), and setting the
> thermost higher not lower.  Although that saves engery and $$$ you have a
> much shorter time to recover from a cooling failure as system temperature
> will raise rapidly with little margin.
>
> There's an interesting study where Intel ran tests for nearly a year with
> servers in an air cooler environment in New Mexico with outside
> temperatures
> approaching 100F.  I'll see if I can find it.
>
> From there, finding the right size cooling requirements is still a
> challenge (easy to over do it) but it helped.  Cooling for resistive heat
> is
> different than for human comfort so if it is an unmanned environment,
> there's that to consider as well.
>
>
>
> At 02:50 PM 6/26/2023, you wrote:
> >Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > boundary="=_NextPart_000_0262_01D9A83D.942822B0"
> >Content-Language: en-us
> >
> >I've been assuming that whatever energy you put into an electronic
> >system is coming out as heat -there might be multiple conversions
> >before it becomes heat, but it must become heat eventually.
> >
> >A resistive heater is said to convert 1 Watt to
> >3.41 BTU/hr.  So that's the conversion I'm using.
> >
> >I'm largely ignoring other factors because I'm assuming the
> >overwhelming majority of heat in the room is the heat from my
> >equipment, and the goal is to pump that heat outside.
> >
> >
> >
> >I don't think I've undersized an air conditioner
> >yet using that methodology, but is it overkill?
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Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?

[Jaime Solorza]

I don't care that they were rich...they were fellow human beings with
families... yes I am fucking liberal so fuck the heartless jokes...


On Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 12:02 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> What would get my attention is 700 migrants in a submersible.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/23/2023 9:10 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Migrants, refugees, bad boats this happens all the time.  Pretty much meh
> for the rest of the world.
>
> Soccer teams stuck in a cave, submariners perhaps trapped in the sea,
> miners in a cave in, those things always attract attention and resources.
>
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2023 8:36 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?
>
>
> Errrg. I would call that the opposite of woke.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2023 8:23 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
> *"But very little coverage and effort($$$) spent on the 700 plus who died
> on the Adriana off Greece...same as it ever was..."*
>
> But what was their cumulative net worth?
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 5:36 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> But very little coverage and effort($$$) spent on the 700 plus who died
>> on the Adriana off Greece...same as it ever was...
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 4:20 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Errbody dead?
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Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?

[Jaime Solorza]

I am wide awake..

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 9:29 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Errrg. I would call that the opposite of woke.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2023 8:23 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
> *"But very little coverage and effort($$$) spent on the 700 plus who died
> on the Adriana off Greece...same as it ever was..."*
>
> But what was their cumulative net worth?
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 5:36 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> But very little coverage and effort($$$) spent on the 700 plus who died
>> on the Adriana off Greece...same as it ever was...
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 4:20 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Errbody dead?
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Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?

[Jaime Solorza]

Sad

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 9:43 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> *"But very little coverage and effort($$$) spent on the 700 plus who died
> on the Adriana off Greece...same as it ever was..."*
>
> But what was their cumulative net worth?
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 5:36 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> But very little coverage and effort($$$) spent on the 700 plus who died
>> on the Adriana off Greece...same as it ever was...
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 4:20 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Errbody dead?
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Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?

[Jaime Solorza]

But very little coverage and effort($$$) spent on the 700 plus who died on
the Adriana off Greece...same as it ever was...


On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 4:20 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?

[Jaime Solorza]

Super busy wiring and configuring pressure indicator transmitters...we got
a contract to do 624 wells!!!

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 4:20 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] OT NEC

[Jaime Solorza]

We wire nut any wires not used and label them as such...
We use our meters to make wires are dead...we don't take chances ...High
voltages at most sites we work at...


On Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 4:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Got gigged by the fire department today on a couple items.
>
> 1)Hand coil of wire up in the ceiling over a spot where a machine used
> to be.  Not gonna cut it off as some other machine may go there.  It is
> coiled and cut dead and capped in the breaker panel.  They are quoting a
> junction box without a cover and saying I guess I have to mount a big assed
> box up there to enclose this dead wire?  Opinions.
>
> 2)Nothing flammable on our pallet racking.  Every warehouse I have
> ever been has pallet racking full of things in corrugated boxes.  Having a
> hard time buying this.  So we can only store steel and rocks up there.
> They do say we can put our non flammable items on a pallet  Anyone ever
> run across this before?
>
> Best Regards,
> Chuck McCown
>
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[AFMUG] SCADA work

[Jaime Solorza]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/NcN3jQSjdTtcuvdd6
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Re: [AFMUG] OT tracert

[Jaime Solorza]

It's Aliens

On Wed, May 31, 2023, 10:17 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Could some of you do a tracert to www.microtrench-blades.com please
> Go Daddy is blaming the slow load on my ISP yeah.
>
> Something is making it load very slow for me and others.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Megger

[Jaime Solorza]

I can verify that 500v hurts...
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 2:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Bought a Fluke Megger.  Have wanted one for a long time.  Every time there
> is a question as to whether a motor or transformer might have an insulation
> fault, you really don’t know for sure without a Megger.
>
> So, on the Megger functions, it has 100V,  250V,  500V and 1000V.
> My first inclination was to test the resistance of my fingers.
>
> I was going to use the 1000V function but decided to give 100V a try
> first.
> Barely feel it... OK.
>
> 250 Volts... HOLY SHIT did that shock the piss out of me.  Glad I did not
> start with 1000V.
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Re: [AFMUG] Megger

[Jaime Solorza]

Lol

On Tue, May 30, 2023, 6:52 AM  wrote:

> “My first inclination was to test the resistance of my fingers.  “
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 28, 2023 4:32 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Megger
>
>
>
> Bought a Fluke Megger.  Have wanted one for a long time.  Every time there
> is a question as to whether a motor or transformer might have an insulation
> fault, you really don’t know for sure without a Megger.
>
>
>
> So, on the Megger functions, it has 100V,  250V,  500V and 1000V.
>
> My first inclination was to test the resistance of my fingers.
>
>
>
> I was going to use the 1000V function but decided to give 100V a try
> first.
>
> Barely feel it... OK.
>
>
>
> 250 Volts... HOLY SHIT did that shock the piss out of me.  Glad I did not
> start with 1000V.
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Megger

[Jaime Solorza]

Welcome to the club
Got hit with 500

On Sun, May 28, 2023, 2:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Bought a Fluke Megger.  Have wanted one for a long time.  Every time there
> is a question as to whether a motor or transformer might have an insulation
> fault, you really don’t know for sure without a Megger.
>
> So, on the Megger functions, it has 100V,  250V,  500V and 1000V.
> My first inclination was to test the resistance of my fingers.
>
> I was going to use the 1000V function but decided to give 100V a try
> first.
> Barely feel it... OK.
>
> 250 Volts... HOLY SHIT did that shock the piss out of me.  Glad I did not
> start with 1000V.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] testing uno dos tres

[Jaime Solorza]

I have Amex card
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 11:12 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:

> We charge extra for probing.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 25, 2023 11:05 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] testing uno dos tres
>
> Good morning...I have sent several posts to the list with pictures but my
> outbox keeps saying unsent...am I getting blocked, censored, probed,
> fondled?
> Inquiring minds want to know
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
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[AFMUG] testing uno dos tres

[Jaime Solorza]

Good morning...I have sent several posts to the list with pictures but my
outbox keeps saying unsent...am I getting blocked, censored, probed,
fondled?
Inquiring minds want to know
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Re: [AFMUG] Cellular router question

[Jaime Solorza]

I have several Cradlepoints I will let go.
Never been a fan of Mikrotik...thanks

On Sun, May 21, 2023, 5:32 PM jason wilson 
wrote:

> Mikrotik LGH LTE6
>
>
> Jason Wilson
>
> Remotely Located
>
> Critical Infrastructure Service Provider
>
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>
> 530-651-1736 <+15306511736>
>
> 530-748-9608 <+15307489608> Cell
>
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> *Sent:* Sunday, May 21, 2023 4:06:19 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cellular router question
>
> That's what I was thinking...
>
> On Sun, May 21, 2023, 12:48 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> Just went through this with a customer. Dont do it. Get a sim router with
> external connector and go to an external antenna
>
> On Sun, May 21, 2023, 1:31 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> I have an upcoming project to install a cellular router in a canyon site
> with spotty service..(-127, -138dBm)...
> I was wondering if anyone has used the output port of booster with cable
> to input port of cellular router?
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Re: [AFMUG] Cellular router question

[Jaime Solorza]

That's what I was thinking...

On Sun, May 21, 2023, 12:48 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Just went through this with a customer. Dont do it. Get a sim router with
> external connector and go to an external antenna
>
> On Sun, May 21, 2023, 1:31 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I have an upcoming project to install a cellular router in a canyon site
>> with spotty service..(-127, -138dBm)...
>> I was wondering if anyone has used the output port of booster with cable
>> to input port of cellular router?
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[AFMUG] Cellular router question

[Jaime Solorza]

I have an upcoming project to install a cellular router in a canyon site
with spotty service..(-127, -138dBm)...
I was wondering if anyone has used the output port of booster with cable to
input port of cellular router?
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Re: [AFMUG] 900Mhz 14db ParaReflector Antenna

[Jaime Solorza]

We ordered TY900s...they are a solid yagi



On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 2:02 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Water company tower in Fort Bliss has two omnis for MDS orbit radios...one
> reflector going on same tower...noise all around from their links plus EPWU
> uses licensed and unlicensed 900 all over path to McGregor...at McGregor
> they have an omni for MDS radios around the base...the long running fiber
> link was cut by construction and will take several months to reroute
> lines...so we are installing a back up ptp to get McGregor and Dona Ana
> Army Base on line using Cambium n900 SCADA radios
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 1:24 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>> Antenna directivity is directly proportional to gain.  Except for
>> interference coming from the back, I don’t think you would notice a
>> difference.  Where are Fort Bliss and McGregor in relation to the path of
>> the signal?  Are they off to the side or behind the site?
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 27, 2023 12:52 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900Mhz 14db ParaReflector Antenna
>>
>> Reason I want to use reflector is the amount of 900Mhz noise at Fort
>> Bliss and McGregor range...it's a 26 miles path.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 12:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would use a yagi in that case.  I realize the FB ratio is not as good,
>>> but you could get by.
>>>
>>> Or a 900 MHz panel, they have a better FB than a yagi.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:36 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900Mhz 14db ParaReflector Antenna
>>>
>>> Kathrien Scala version is backordered 8 weeksneed two...any other
>>> vendors?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Curious in El Paso
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Re: [AFMUG] 900Mhz 14db ParaReflector Antenna

[Jaime Solorza]

Water company tower in Fort Bliss has two omnis for MDS orbit radios...one
reflector going on same tower...noise all around from their links plus EPWU
uses licensed and unlicensed 900 all over path to McGregor...at McGregor
they have an omni for MDS radios around the base...the long running fiber
link was cut by construction and will take several months to reroute
lines...so we are installing a back up ptp to get McGregor and Dona Ana
Army Base on line using Cambium n900 SCADA radios

On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 1:24 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Antenna directivity is directly proportional to gain.  Except for
> interference coming from the back, I don’t think you would notice a
> difference.  Where are Fort Bliss and McGregor in relation to the path of
> the signal?  Are they off to the side or behind the site?
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 27, 2023 12:52 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900Mhz 14db ParaReflector Antenna
>
> Reason I want to use reflector is the amount of 900Mhz noise at Fort Bliss
> and McGregor range...it's a 26 miles path.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 12:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I would use a yagi in that case.  I realize the FB ratio is not as good,
>> but you could get by.
>>
>> Or a 900 MHz panel, they have a better FB than a yagi.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:36 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900Mhz 14db ParaReflector Antenna
>>
>> Kathrien Scala version is backordered 8 weeksneed two...any other
>> vendors?
>> Thanks,
>> Curious in El Paso
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Re: [AFMUG] 900Mhz 14db ParaReflector Antenna

[Jaime Solorza]

Reason I want to use reflector is the amount of 900Mhz noise at Fort Bliss
and McGregor range...it's a 26 miles path.


On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 12:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I would use a yagi in that case.  I realize the FB ratio is not as good,
> but you could get by.
>
> Or a 900 MHz panel, they have a better FB than a yagi.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:36 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900Mhz 14db ParaReflector Antenna
>
> Kathrien Scala version is backordered 8 weeksneed two...any other
> vendors?
> Thanks,
> Curious in El Paso
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[AFMUG] 900Mhz 14db ParaReflector Antenna

[Jaime Solorza]

Kathrien Scala version is backordered 8 weeksneed two...any other
vendors?
Thanks,
Curious in El Paso
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

[Jaime Solorza]

Friend of mine has set up three homes with solar panels and batteries out
in the desert near us...100% off the grid...

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 7:14 PM Robert  wrote:

> Off grid homes are easy now with LFP batteries, it would just be the
> hassle of wiring it, specially as they probably don't use sheet rock
> interior walls.   So you are probably doing conduit all around the
> outside walls.   But they probably all have basements that you could
> also wire through.
>
> On 4/20/23 5:09 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> > The Amish are making a mass exodus from NY.  You can drive through
> > Amish communities and see "for sale" signs one after the other.  The
> > Amish are generally known for good workmanship, to the point where
> > some people go out of their way to get Amish building contractors.
> > They also have multigenerational households, so you get these large
> > properties with huge well-built houses, barns, and outbuildings.  The
> > problem is they have no utilities at all.  They'll have hand pumped
> > wells and outhouses and wood stoves.
> >
> >
> https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/234-Hunts-Corners-Center-Lisle-Rd-Marathon-NY-13803/223346029_zpid/
> ?
> >
> > I linked the above example because it was easy to find, but that
> > particular one has electric out by the road.  I saw a similar one for
> > sale where there was no electric service available and it was listed
> > for $140k.  That's a friggin 'steal except for one thing:  What could
> > you do with a huge house with no electricity?  A scout camp?  Start a
> > cult?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Progress...

[Jaime Solorza]

Brady

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 4:09 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:

> What labels are those for the cables?
>
> On 4/11/2023 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> > Finally got relays!!  We should have it wrapped by tomorrow before
> > noon...we have tested all the connections from PLC to terminal
> > blocks...we will fire it  tomorrow before we take to job site and land
> > it in enclosure...electricians will hook up power and then we can
> > start landing wires from devices and levels...
> > Huge lift station6 VFDs and 6 large motors..
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Progress...

[Jaime Solorza]

Autocad...
Yes..we use thread making bit and small screws to secure din rail and wire
duct..

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 11:07 AM Matt  wrote:

> What software are you using to create the diagrams?
>
> For securing to the backplane, are you tapping the holes?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:01 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
> >
> > Finally got relays!!  We should have it wrapped by tomorrow before
> noon...we have tested all the connections from PLC to terminal blocks...we
> will fire it  tomorrow before we take to job site and land it in
> enclosure...electricians will hook up power and then we can start landing
> wires from devices and levels...
> > Huge lift station6 VFDs and 6 large motors..
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Re: [AFMUG] Yo yo

[Jaime Solorza]

I love the count...

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023, 9:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> The white house is having me suppress content
>
>
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 7:12 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yo yo
>
> I was actually thinking this message got scrubbed from the list for having
> a pic attached, looks like it actually made it! I'm alive-ish =) we are
> having 50mph winds here in California, just had a tree fall on 7.2kv lines
> by my house, made such a horrid noise I thought my AC compressor was
> exploding!
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 4:43 PM CBB - Jay Fuller 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Y'all out there ?  Awful quiet
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "TJ Trout" 
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] FS: EZ RJ45s  Crimpers
>> Date: Fri, Mar 31, 2023 10:00 AM
>>
>> I ordered a ton of connectors and crimpers during the shortage and I'm a
>> bit overstocked now but luckily we got a volume discount if anyone needs
>> any. We have used tens of thousands in our network and sold many more.
>>
>> Passthru/EZ, 50 micron gold with ground wire lug. The crimpers are really
>> nice!
>>
>> 1000 utp cat5e ez $300
>> 1000 ftp cat5e ez esd $400
>> 1000 ftp cat6 ez esd staggered conductor $500
>> Every 1,000 ordered includes 3 crimpers and 21 blades
>>
>> Free shipping if you pay via Zelle to t...@voltbb.com or +$25 for PayPal
>> to t...@pcguys.us
>> Include your shipping information in the payment memo
>>
>> -TJ
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Re: [AFMUG] Short Term Employee

[Jaime Solorza]

Hardest part of owning a company...I gave one employee some breaks but
after third incident, I fired him...during the last year of my company with
a sweet contract and everyone was getting paid very well...since many of
these projects were near the Texas-Mexico border, they would cross to
frequent the brothels!!! They started spending money foolishly and doing
coke...one wife called asking me to help pay electricity because they were
going to cut it off...I helped her and deducted from employee's pay...we
also came to blows I started to notice equipment missing from the
vans...
Called my boys to help me inventory through Suburban and two Astros on a
Sundaymissing a Hilti hammer drill, two Kenwood mobile units,  two Elk
River Harnesses and all kinds of hand tools...on Momday , I confronted
them...the three fessed up to pawning the equipment in Laredo and Uvalde,
..they gave me the pawn tickets ..I fired them ..left me with one employee
and my son...we finished the contract and I closed the company...recovered
some items but nit all
Never again..

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 1:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I hired a guy to be a production manager over our grout mixing machine
> product.
> He came with a pedigree of doing this at other places.  I didn’t check him
> out, just trusted the resume.
>
> He did have interesting ideas but soon it became evident:
> He liked to sit and talk –alot.
> He did not want to start helping cleaning up the bill of materials
> (primary job responsibility). (did absolutely nothing along those lines)
>
> He wanted us to farm things out to his buddies (like have fastenal kit the
> nuts and bolts, have this other company make your sheet metal for you).
>
> OK, was trying to absorb ideas and suggestions.  After all he was over
> building all the production equipment at the local Purple Mattress factory
> (or so he said).
>
> I expected him to help task employees in his department, but soon when
> asked where they were and what were they doing, he had no idea.
> I gave them a task to modify a mounting fixture by cutting it and
> inserting 10” of steel tubing.  Rather than have them do what I asked, he
> took new steel and made one from scratch.
> So he wasted the steel, his time and he used too thin of material.  Took
> two hours.
>
> I told him you could make the modification in 10 minutes, he argued that
> point.
> So I took a stand, cut it, extended it, using a stopwatch.  3 minutes 43
> seconds
>
> When I complained about it, he said that my fixtures were too weak and
> they were going to kill someone.  I demoed one with about 10X load not
> failing.
> Then he started complaining about other things, deflecting that he did not
> do what I asked and did something else wasteful and substandard.
> Interspersed with my request was not clear and he didn’t understand what I
> wanted...
>
> He said my repair to a air compressor was unsafe.
> He said he got arc flash in his eye from a distance of about 60 feet, etc
> etc.  Had to buy stuff to build safe welding stalls, etc etc.
>
> So I  made a casual comment to my son (who is taking over) yesterday: “you
> know, when a guy like this leaves a company whether fired or not, they
> sometimes call OSHA just to cause problems”
> Then I actually listened to my own words and agreed with myself.
>
> Late in the day this problem employee said to me: “I guess I am going to
> have to ignore my own exceptionalism to be able work here”.
>
> That bugged me the longer I thought about it.  I fired him via email about
> an hour after he left...  Made it one full week and a couple days the prior
> week.
> He can bless someone else with his exceptionalism.
>
> AITA?
>
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[AFMUG] Ha

[Jaime Solorza]


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Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later

[Jaime Solorza]

We label every wire..

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 5:31 PM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> That would really ruin the electricians mojo if they couldn’t take all the
> duct covers off and throw them in the bottom of the panel.No self
> respecting electrician ever puts those damn covers on.   How would they
> know where all the wires go if they did?
>
> Mark
>
> On Mar 29, 2023, at 2:46 PM, Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> I think the question was why not use hinge type cable troughs
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 12:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Lots of places with real and much better tacos...I live in El Paso, not
>> San Antonio!!!
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:05 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Why not?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:03 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope...no hinges ever
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 8:52 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> It is a work of art.
>>>
>>> Do you ever use finger duct with a hinged cover?  I find that a lot more
>>> convenient, but wondering if there’s a reason not to use that on a panel
>>> like this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2023 8:51 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the panel for the large enclosure I posted last week...
>>>
>>> Dual power supplies for redundancy...
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later

[Jaime Solorza]

Carl...
the non hinged allows us easy access for cable management and landing  to
either side and not hampered by hinge...running some cables can get
difficult in busy panel...also the cutting is much cleaner ...
and Josh,,,i will try the Blast just for you...
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 12:53 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> I think the question was why not use hinge type cable troughs
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 12:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Lots of places with real and much better tacos...I live in El Paso, not
>> San Antonio!!!
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:05 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Why not?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:03 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope...no hinges ever
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 8:52 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> It is a work of art.
>>>
>>> Do you ever use finger duct with a hinged cover?  I find that a lot more
>>> convenient, but wondering if there’s a reason not to use that on a panel
>>> like this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2023 8:51 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the panel for the large enclosure I posted last week...
>>>
>>> Dual power supplies for redundancy...
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later

[Jaime Solorza]

Lots of places with real and much better tacos...I live in El Paso, not San
Antonio!!!

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:05 AM  wrote:

> Why not?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:03 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later
>
>
>
> Nope...no hinges ever
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 8:52 AM  wrote:
>
> It is a work of art.
>
> Do you ever use finger duct with a hinged cover?  I find that a lot more
> convenient, but wondering if there’s a reason not to use that on a panel
> like this.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2023 8:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later
>
>
>
> This is the panel for the large enclosure I posted last week...
>
> Dual power supplies for redundancy...
>
> More shares to come.
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Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later

[Jaime Solorza]

Not mine...homey don't do Taco Hell

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 8:48 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> You went to Taco Bell and didn't get Baja Blast?
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 1:05 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 8:20 AM Brian Webster 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice work as always.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Brian Webster
>>>
>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2023 8:51 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the panel for the large enclosure I posted last week...
>>>
>>> Dual power supplies for redundancy...
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later

[Jaime Solorza]

Nope...no hinges ever

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 8:52 AM  wrote:

> It is a work of art.
>
> Do you ever use finger duct with a hinged cover?  I find that a lot more
> convenient, but wondering if there’s a reason not to use that on a panel
> like this.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2023 8:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later
>
>
>
> This is the panel for the large enclosure I posted last week...
>
> Dual power supplies for redundancy...
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later

[Jaime Solorza]

Thank you

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 8:20 AM Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Nice work as always.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2023 8:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later
>
>
>
> This is the panel for the large enclosure I posted last week...
>
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

[Jaime Solorza]

Here you go Jeff...
Not breakfast but dinner

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 9:58 AM Rory Conaway  wrote:

> And not even close to accurate.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Jeff Broadwick -
> Lists
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2023 12:49 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
>
>
>
> Stop it please.  I enjoy this list for tidbits of industry info and it’s
> friendly banter.  I’m even interested in Jaime’s breakfast and weather
> girls.
>
>
>
> If the politics was light and friendly, I’d be all in…this is anything but.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
>
> CTIconnect
>
> 312-205-2519 Office
>
> 574-220-7826 Cell
>
> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2023, at 3:45 PM, Jan-GAMs  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Darin, the real challenge is the station the right-wingers watch.  FOX.
> Documented liars, well documented liars.  They make shit up and present it
> as fact.  This has been admitted to by their owner Murdock.  They make up
> news just to drive their advertisement income.  Why the hell should anyone
> watch that channel is beyond belief.  The problem is, this has been a known
> factoid for years, FOX makes shit up and presents it as news.  Until
> Congress makes laws concerning what a so-called "NEWS" channel can present
> as truth and still have a license to broadcast, I'm never going to trust
> any "NEWS" source.  Especially FOX.  Reagan did away with the "Fairness
> Doctrine" back in the '80's, which more or less ended news reporting facts
> and brought in news reporting as hype.  Facts and news have been at odds
> since Roger Ailes left the Nixon WH and started up FOX news.  Real news may
> never recover.
>
> On 3/25/23 11:02, Darin Steffl wrote:
>
> Evan and others,
>
>
>
> You guys really are delusional if you don't see what the Republicans are
> doing to strip away rights. At least call them out if you're going to vote
> their way.
>
>
>
> Everything I shared were statements of fact easily verified with a Google
> search with reputable sources.
>
>
>
> It's sad that I can share facts and then some want to shut down the
> conversation. Is that because you don't want to be wrong or don't think
> you're associated with people who hold more extreme views than you?
>
>
>
> I'm asking you not to be complicit in the hate that's in the republican
> party. Speak out and tell your representatives to stop attacking people. Be
> kind and empathetic.
>
>
>
> Evan, why are you worried about me for calling out hateful people? I'm
> worried for you if you think that's wrong for me to do. You should be
> against all the attacks on human rights too. I believe you and your wife,
> Sandra, to be good people. But there are some on the right who would tell
> your wife to go back to her country because they're xenophobic and racist.
> Wouldn't that bother you if someone said that to your wife?
>
>
>
> Call out the bad that any party partakes in. During the Floyd riots, I
> didn't agree with any violence or destruction of property and I'm in full
> support of people being arrested who committed crimes. Same with the people
> on January 6. But why does the right think January 6 was a peaceful tour
> and no one should be arrested? It's hypocritical.
>
>
>
> Same with law enforcement. We shouldn't support any profession
> unconditionally. That's dangerous. I support good cops but think we should
> hold bad ones accountable. This is all common sense stuff but the right
> thinks all cops are good which is false. There's bad people in every
> profession so let's weed them out. I have some sick friends and family that
> think the murder of George Floyd was justified, even after watching the
> full video of him being suffocated!! Sick people with sick minds.
>
>
>
> The rest of the world watches our country with disgust that half the
> people hate themselves and their country so much that they continue to vote
> republican. The new republican party is far more different and extreme than
> the old one, which was somewhat reasonable and bipartisan.
>
>
>
> There is no question that democrats are better for all people in terms of
> human rights, equality, and protections against employers and corporations.
> They pass more bills to protect people, the environment, and the world than
> the right. That does NOT mean the party is perfect and that there aren't
> shady politicians on both sides. It all comes back to calling out the bad
> things either party tries to do so we end up in the middle.
>
>
>
> Being in the middle, centrist, should not be an extreme view. The facts
> and opinions I shared are centrist views so if you think I'm crazy or
> you're offended, it's likely that your views are more extreme than you
> think. I could list more than enough Democrat ideas I don't agree with and
> just as many fiscal republican ideas I do agree with.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 12:03 PM Robert  wrote:
>
> What we have here is a failure to communicate.   I may sound like a c
> theorist but what we have 

Re: [AFMUG] OT...1930s Fargo Truck

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep...good idea..Camera with LTE

On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, 8:46 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Use a game camera. Put it in a lock box. You'll have to swap the memory
> card periodically, but it doesn't require a connection.
>
> OTOH, you can also get a game cam with LTE.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 3/25/2023 6:31 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D6MGY7K/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
>
> Well, these things have some confusing details, the part about LTE and
> cell phone especially.  I have section of my yard where dumpers like to
> donate and I want to place a permanent camera.  It's too far for a POE
> cable so I'm thinking a small solar panel, battery and a radio that can
> punch through 5-600ft of woods.  I don't think a 900Mhz radio would do
> that, but a 650Mhz radio might do it pretty well.  I've used plenty of
> 900Mhz ubiquiti radios and have tried similar situations, they failed.  All
> I need is camera video and audio back to my NVR and monitor.  There are no
> trees within easy reach of the target location so a battery camera wouldn't
> do.
> On 3/25/23 17:31, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> No need to go through Orchards...didn't know MT made 650Mhz radio...back
> in 2006 or 7, I tested some 450MHz wireless Inc radios at a Phelps Dodge
> Refinery...they worked well but couldn't deploy them due to no FCC
> approval...they didn't pursue it and only sold them overseas by special
> order..
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 5:49 PM Jan-GAMs  wrote:
>
>> that looks kind of like a 1958 Dodge.  My brother has a panel truck with
>> a similar front grill.  Like your truck.
>>
>> Mikrotik has some radios that work in the 650Mhz range can those be used
>> for connecting the bldg on the other side of the orchard to this side?
>> Can you suggest a model?
>>
>> On 3/25/23 15:55, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>> > My cousin Jose Andre's Fargo getting checked out by my other cousins
>> > in our family ranch near Cuauthemoc, Chihuahua...we restoring it...I
>> > donated a SureCall booster with antennas and a PTP Ubiquiti link with
>> > Nighthawk router to provide services while family is at the
>> > ranch...you can see the apple orchards in the back.
>> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT...1930s Fargo Truck

[Jaime Solorza]

Look at Inland Routers..

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 7:32 PM Jan-GAMs  wrote:

> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D6MGY7K/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
>
> Well, these things have some confusing details, the part about LTE and
> cell phone especially.  I have section of my yard where dumpers like to
> donate and I want to place a permanent camera.  It's too far for a POE
> cable so I'm thinking a small solar panel, battery and a radio that can
> punch through 5-600ft of woods.  I don't think a 900Mhz radio would do
> that, but a 650Mhz radio might do it pretty well.  I've used plenty of
> 900Mhz ubiquiti radios and have tried similar situations, they failed.  All
> I need is camera video and audio back to my NVR and monitor.  There are no
> trees within easy reach of the target location so a battery camera wouldn't
> do.
> On 3/25/23 17:31, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> No need to go through Orchards...didn't know MT made 650Mhz radio...back
> in 2006 or 7, I tested some 450MHz wireless Inc radios at a Phelps Dodge
> Refinery...they worked well but couldn't deploy them due to no FCC
> approval...they didn't pursue it and only sold them overseas by special
> order..
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 5:49 PM Jan-GAMs  wrote:
>
>> that looks kind of like a 1958 Dodge.  My brother has a panel truck with
>> a similar front grill.  Like your truck.
>>
>> Mikrotik has some radios that work in the 650Mhz range can those be used
>> for connecting the bldg on the other side of the orchard to this side?
>> Can you suggest a model?
>>
>> On 3/25/23 15:55, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>> > My cousin Jose Andre's Fargo getting checked out by my other cousins
>> > in our family ranch near Cuauthemoc, Chihuahua...we restoring it...I
>> > donated a SureCall booster with antennas and a PTP Ubiquiti link with
>> > Nighthawk router to provide services while family is at the
>> > ranch...you can see the apple orchards in the back.
>> >
>> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT...1930s Fargo Truck

[Jaime Solorza]

No need to go through Orchards...didn't know MT made 650Mhz radio...back in
2006 or 7, I tested some 450MHz wireless Inc radios at a Phelps Dodge
Refinery...they worked well but couldn't deploy them due to no FCC
approval...they didn't pursue it and only sold them overseas by special
order..

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 5:49 PM Jan-GAMs  wrote:

> that looks kind of like a 1958 Dodge.  My brother has a panel truck with
> a similar front grill.  Like your truck.
>
> Mikrotik has some radios that work in the 650Mhz range can those be used
> for connecting the bldg on the other side of the orchard to this side?
> Can you suggest a model?
>
> On 3/25/23 15:55, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> > My cousin Jose Andre's Fargo getting checked out by my other cousins
> > in our family ranch near Cuauthemoc, Chihuahua...we restoring it...I
> > donated a SureCall booster with antennas and a PTP Ubiquiti link with
> > Nighthawk router to provide services while family is at the
> > ranch...you can see the apple orchards in the back.
> >
> >
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[AFMUG] OT...1930s Fargo Truck

[Jaime Solorza]

My cousin Jose Andre's Fargo getting checked out by my other cousins in our
family ranch near Cuauthemoc, Chihuahua...we restoring it...I donated a
SureCall booster with antennas and a PTP Ubiquiti link with Nighthawk
router to provide services while family is at the ranch...you can see the
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Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

[Jaime Solorza]

Then a voice cried out of the darkness, yellingtear the system down,
down to the ground...

To divide the cockeyed world in two
Throw your pride to one side, it's the least you can do
Beatniks and politics, nothin' is new
A yardstick for lunatics, one point of view

On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 10:09 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Clowns to the left of me
> Jokers to the right
> Here I am stuck in the middle with you
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 6:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> Big circle.  I am at the top, all you guys are to the left or right of me
>> going down the sides of the circle, at the bottom we find q anon, antifa,
>> proud boys, ISIS, Putin, MSNBC etc etc.
>>
>> I’ma gonna stay right on top dead center.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Chuck McCown
>>
>> McCown Technology Corporation
>> 8401 N Commerce Dr
>> 
>> Lake Point, Utah 84074
>> 
>> 801-250-9503 Office
>> 435-830-4306 Cell
>> www.mccowntech.com
>> www.microtrench.pro
>> www.terabitnetworks.com
>>
>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 5:12 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
>>
>> I wouldn't put Putin on the left. Having said that, it's my opinion that
>> the far left and far right converge, no meaningful difference as far as
>> their damage potential to humanity.
>>
>> I agree with Steve that actual centrists are what is needed, and along
>> with it some compromise between parties.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 6:15 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Karl Marx
>>> Lenin
>>> Stalin
>>> Putin
>>>
>>> Pretty sure those dudes were far worst than Trump
>>> Even Castro
>>> Kim Jong Un
>>>
>>> Seriously you thing the far left are better?
>>>
>>> *From:* Darin Steffl
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 3:54 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
>>>
>>> The extreme left is still better than the extreme right.
>>>
>>> I don't agree with either sides' extremes but if I had to pick one side,
>>> everyone being taken care of, like socialism, I'd pick that over the
>>> extreme right who wants to murder anyone different than them. Like far
>>> right pastors and supporters who call for violence and murder of gay
>>> people, people of color, and liberals. I can find thousands of posts and
>>> video from Republicans calling for sick things but very few liberals saying
>>> the same things.
>>>
>>> I don't see far left people calling for violence and murder of people
>>> they disagree with.
>>>
>>> So while there are two sides, one side is better than the other, as in
>>> less violent and extreme.
>>>
>>> I'd take free college for all, free Healthcare, and more from the
>>> extreme left over the extreme right who wants to ban books, kill people
>>> they disagree with, try to overturn elections, cheat, lie, steal, etc.
>>> Again, the left is the better choice when it comes to empathy and taking
>>> care of people.
>>>
>>> While an average republican might not agree with the far right, their
>>> silence is the same as being complicit in their sick beliefs.
>>>
>>> At least an average Democrat calls out the far left people like I do. I
>>> don't agree in wiping out all student loans, for example. And I've
>>> contacted democrats I've voted for to voice my opinions.
>>>
>>> I don't see Republicans calling out far right politicians who are
>>> spewing hate everyday. I wish they would but since they aren't, I assume
>>> they agree with the hate speech and calls for violence.
>>>
>>> The right is far sicker than the left in every regard. Donald being
>>> elected over Hillary will go down in history as one of the worst political
>>> events in our country. We would be a much nicer and stable country if
>>> Hillary won. The racists, bigots, and violent people would mostly be hiding
>>> still but Donald gave them permission to act out their hate when he was
>>> elected. It's very sad.
>>>
>>> People who still support Donald are bullies and hate America at this
>>> point.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ouchie!
 You called me the C word...


 *From:* Robert
 *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 3:32 PM
 *To:* af@af.afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

 exactly this...  What I have learned is there is such a thing as a good
 cult, which is what I consider the Mormon church to be.  They have a few
 extreme points of view but on the whole they treat everyone ( now including
 other races ) reasonably...   And they care about kids and back it up.

 On 3/24/23 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

 I loved what the Gov of Utah told a bunch of school kids yesterday.

 “Republicans are wrong about Democrats and Democrats 

Re: [AFMUG] The beast

[Jaime Solorza]

Yes...large one

On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 11:46 AM  wrote:

> What is?
>
> An enclosure?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:42 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] The beast
>
>
>
> 690lbs!!! Fun part will be at job site...keep u posted..
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Re: [AFMUG] Petticoat Junction

[Jaime Solorza]

Oh yeah

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 11:44 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Shirley Jones in Elmer Gantry was pretty hot too.
>
> Yeah, Mary Anne, Emma Peel, Miss Ellie.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2023 8:24 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Petticoat Junction
>
> Them, Barbara Eden and especially Elizabeth Montgomery were definitely
> part of my fun
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> Its crazy that thats considered tame now, but was very risque at its time
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 7:26 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh I remember them as a pre-teen!!!
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Re: [AFMUG] Petticoat Junction

[Jaime Solorza]

Them, Barbara Eden and especially Elizabeth Montgomery were definitely part
of my fun

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> Its crazy that thats considered tame now, but was very risque at its time
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 7:26 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh I remember them as a pre-teen!!!
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[AFMUG] Petticoat Junction

[Jaime Solorza]

Oh I remember them as a pre-teen!!!
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Re: [AFMUG] New toy

[Jaime Solorza]

Wise man

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 3:16 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> that fluke pentester is nice, my dad has one, i get stuck with the cheapos
> cause he keeps it hidden from me.
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:44 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I  got hit with 500V from a Fluke Megohmmeter 1507 a few years agoI
>> didn't like it at all...
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:16 PM castarritt  wrote:
>>
>>> It also depends on how well you are grounded.  If you aren't grounded,
>>> you won't draw any current on DC power.  With AC, you will still draw some
>>> current due to capacitance even if you are completely ungrounded.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 1:59 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have to wet my hands to even feel 48 volts.
>>>> 120 does not register as painful if my skin is dry.  Just a startling
>>>> vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2023 12:22 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New toy
>>>>
>>>> Anything above 24vdc
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 11:58 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To me, HV is anything over 600 volts but more like 2200V and higher.
>>>>> With solar string inverters, you frequently have to work 1000V live.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do 480 live all the time, with respect.  It is only 277 to ground.
>>>>>
>>>>> 480 will hurt you bad but not kill as instantly like primary will.
>>>>> Some guys that survived a primary contact wished it had killed them.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you consider HV?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2023 6:07 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] New toy
>>>>>
>>>>> We got a contract to install and wire power meters on 26
>>>>> wells...working with high voltage...
>>>>> Not taking any chances...
>>>>> Peace
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Re: [AFMUG] New toy

[Jaime Solorza]

I  got hit with 500V from a Fluke Megohmmeter 1507 a few years agoI
didn't like it at all...
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:16 PM castarritt  wrote:

> It also depends on how well you are grounded.  If you aren't grounded, you
> won't draw any current on DC power.  With AC, you will still draw some
> current due to capacitance even if you are completely ungrounded.
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 1:59 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I have to wet my hands to even feel 48 volts.
>> 120 does not register as painful if my skin is dry.  Just a startling
>> vibration.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2023 12:22 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New toy
>>
>> Anything above 24vdc
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 11:58 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To me, HV is anything over 600 volts but more like 2200V and higher.
>>> With solar string inverters, you frequently have to work 1000V live.
>>>
>>> I do 480 live all the time, with respect.  It is only 277 to ground.
>>>
>>> 480 will hurt you bad but not kill as instantly like primary will.
>>> Some guys that survived a primary contact wished it had killed them.
>>>
>>> What do you consider HV?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2023 6:07 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] New toy
>>>
>>> We got a contract to install and wire power meters on 26 wells...working
>>> with high voltage...
>>> Not taking any chances...
>>> Peace
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] New toy

[Jaime Solorza]

Anything above 24vdc

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 11:58 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> To me, HV is anything over 600 volts but more like 2200V and higher.
> With solar string inverters, you frequently have to work 1000V live.
>
> I do 480 live all the time, with respect.  It is only 277 to ground.
>
> 480 will hurt you bad but not kill as instantly like primary will.
> Some guys that survived a primary contact wished it had killed them.
>
> What do you consider HV?
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2023 6:07 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] New toy
>
> We got a contract to install and wire power meters on 26 wells...working
> with high voltage...
> Not taking any chances...
> Peace
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Re: [AFMUG] New toy

[Jaime Solorza]

We use these and our Fluke meters as well..


On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 8:33 AM  wrote:

> That would be new to me if I bought one.  I use my multimeter to test for
> live electric, and that’s sufficient for how often I need to do it.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2023 9:40 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New toy
>
>
>
> WTF that is new to you?!?!?!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:13 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> We got a contract to install and wire power meters on 26 wells...working
> with high voltage...
>
> Not taking any chances...
>
> Peace
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[AFMUG] Testing uno dos cinco

[Jaime Solorza]

Is this thing on?  I have shared some pictures and stuff...my Gmail outbox
says unsent...que Pasa?
Others are getting them ...
Aliens?
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Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

[Jaime Solorza]

https://youtu.be/RUaYbfKZIiA

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 5:17 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues.  At its peak we had thousandth
> of accounts on it, but now just a handful.
>
> Not free.  And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost effective
> for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for internal email.
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com 
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers
>
> We are having trouble with mailcow.  Anything better out there.  It hangs
> all the time these days.
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[AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Intriguing.....Upcoming Cubesat to Feature Inflatable 'Beachball' Antenna

[Jaime Solorza]

https://gizmodo.com/upcoming-cubesat-feature-inflatable-beachball-antenna-1850197655
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Re: [AFMUG] Poor front to back ratio!

[Jaime Solorza]

ePMP Force 180

On Mon, Mar 6, 2023, 7:04 AM  wrote:

> Is that a 450b mid-gain?  Or is it an ePMP?
>
>
>
> IMO if you were gonna go back with foil tape you might as well go back
> with a dish.  Same time spent.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 04, 2023 2:13 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Poor front to back ratio!
>
>
>
> This antenna sees another Cambium AP installed at KFox14 tower on mountain
> to left of it way back there!!!
>
>
>
> Curious if putting aluminum tape on back would help..
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Re: [AFMUG] Poor front to back ratio!

[Jaime Solorza]

Did you see picture of appetizer?

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 1:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> It would not hurt.  Probably will help.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2023 12:12 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Poor front to back ratio!
>
> This antenna sees another Cambium AP installed at KFox14 tower on mountain
> to left of it way back there!!!
>
> Curious if putting aluminum tape on back would help..
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Re: [AFMUG] Poor front to back ratio!

[Jaime Solorza]

Will let you know how it goes..

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 1:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> It would not hurt.  Probably will help.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2023 12:12 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Poor front to back ratio!
>
> This antenna sees another Cambium AP installed at KFox14 tower on mountain
> to left of it way back there!!!
>
> Curious if putting aluminum tape on back would help..
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Re: [AFMUG] RF Cage for WIFI

[Jaime Solorza]

Screen wire mesh and aluminum foil wrapped several times..

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023, 6:10 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I've got a Comcast residential Modem that I can't get the RF turned off
> in.  I haven't been able to find the right phrase at support to get them
> to do it.  So far All that's happened is they've removed the SSID's, but
> the RF is still broadcasting.  There are some 'RF cages' on Amazon to
> 'limit your exposure to WIFI'  But they're marketed as making your house
> 'healthier'  and reviews say they just slightly weaken the signal.
>
> Is there a way to properly ground out a cage around the modem to block
> all the WIFI?  Many moons ago, back in the days of 802.11b, I put an AP
> into a lead lined pelican case, and was still able to connect to the
> WIFI from outside of it.  I'm guessing I didn't do something right back
> then.
>
> FWIW though, I am getting 2.4gb/s x 230mb/s through the coax
> connection.  There's only a 2.5G interface on the modem.
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[AFMUG] High winds and dust in El Paso...

[Jaime Solorza]

Power and Internet out in many parts of the city!!!
Roofers are chomping on their bits..
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Re: [AFMUG] First official breakfast pic

[Jaime Solorza]

Had a check up this morning...blood pressure and heart are great!
Asked me if i pee on myself when I cough or sneeze? Not yet!!!
Lots of old people at doctors office...oh shit!!!

On Sat, Feb 25, 2023, 9:39 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Still eating well I see.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/25/2023 7:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> > Chilaquiles
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT for Jaime

[Jaime Solorza]

Nice

On Thu, Feb 23, 2023, 4:25 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> https://youtu.be/zw9u0WBFRcE
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Re: [AFMUG] OT breakfast

[Jaime Solorza]

And they dress funny there as well..


On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 11:53 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Runny eggs? Homophobic? Language is different in Utah.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/20/2023 10:14 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Guac is great, love it.
> Runny eggs?
>
> Too homophobic to even attempt...
>
>
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2023 11:00 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Steve Jones
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT breakfast
>
>
> If you don't like straight avocado, how do you feel about guacamole?
>
> This is toast topped with guacamole and then topped with a couple of fried
> eggs (over easy in this case). I do the guac fairly simple, but you can
> jazz it up any way you like.
>
> Some people call it avocado toast.
>
> Real yummy IMO.
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/16/2023 12:25 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> im partial to the garlic or the jalapeno, never tried with almonds. i did
> get them unpitted once, those suck
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 2:08 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> One of my favorite snacks. Like green olives with almonds too.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 2/16/2023 11:23 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> that was one of the worst days of my life, I had grabbed a jar of garlic
>> stuffed olives at the store. On the way home I opened it and popped one in
>> my mouth. It turned out I had gotten bleu cheese stuffed ones by mistake. i
>> considered just driving into oncoming traffic hoping to get that taste out
>> of my mouth.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> I used to think something like that about blue cheese.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 2/16/2023 10:39 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> avocado tastes like an unwashed sweaty snatch
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:35 PM Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 OK. I'll get it going. I had an "everything" bagel with cream cheese
 and avocado. Might have been better if I'd had a little jalapeno.



 bp
 

 On 2/16/2023 7:45 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

 Wonder what Jaime had for breakfast this morning …

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Re: [AFMUG] I am back

[Jaime Solorza]

Thanks..yes.  concert season coming up...keep you posted

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 2:40 PM Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Welcome back Jamie! Hopefully you are still playing in the band as well in
> your retirement. I really enjoy those videos!
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>
> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>
> (607) 643-4055 Office
>
> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2023 3:11 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I am back
>
>
>
> And hiking almost every weekend
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 11:04 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> That's the sign of a healthy retirement :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:06 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Actually, I  have never been busier
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> I love how you retired and then went right back to climbing.  There's no
> such thing as retirement for a good worker!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:09 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Soon
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 2:21 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
> Don't let him fool ya
>
>
>
> We almost had him convinced that tamales out of a can was acceptable food
> to eat.  Lot easier to do without regular pictures of yummy Mexican food.
>
>
>
> Hey, wait,  you've been back almost a full day and there haven't been any
> weather girl pics or food pics.   You holding out on us???
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 8:51 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> yay
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:49 AM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> Ive been eating jalapenos without vinegar
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:47 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Hola my fine feathered friends...
>
> I have been very busy even though I retired last year.  Health is good, I
> climbed a 100 ft. tower last week for a SCADA job near Kermit area for
> Midland Water, plus we landed a lucrative contract with ASUS for Fort Bliss
> Water.
>
>
>
> What's new with you folks?
>
> Peace
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
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Re: [AFMUG] I am back

[Jaime Solorza]

And hiking almost every weekend

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 11:04 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> That's the sign of a healthy retirement :)
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:06 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Actually, I  have never been busier
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love how you retired and then went right back to climbing.  There's no
>>> such thing as retirement for a good worker!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:09 AM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Soon
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 2:21 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Don't let him fool ya
>>>>>
>>>>> We almost had him convinced that tamales out of a can was acceptable
>>>>> food to eat.  Lot easier to do without regular pictures of yummy Mexican
>>>>> food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, wait,  you've been back almost a full day and there haven't been
>>>>> any weather girl pics or food pics.   You holding out on us???
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 8:51 AM Jaime Solorza 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yay
>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:49 AM Steve Jones <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ive been eating jalapenos without vinegar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:47 AM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hola my fine feathered friends...
>>>>>>>> I have been very busy even though I retired last year.  Health is
>>>>>>>> good, I climbed a 100 ft. tower last week for a SCADA job near Kermit 
>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>> for Midland Water, plus we landed a lucrative contract with ASUS for 
>>>>>>>> Fort
>>>>>>>> Bliss Water.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's new with you folks?
>>>>>>>> Peace
>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>>>> 915-861-1390
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Re: [AFMUG] World Famous French Toast

[Jaime Solorza]

The ether

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 8:07 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Good morning Sunshines
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[AFMUG] test test uno dos cinco

[Jaime Solorza]

i am trying to share some breakfast and SCADA porn pictures but not having
success..
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[AFMUG] SCADA porn

[Jaime Solorza]

We are setting up a ton Schneider power meters at we'll and lift
stations..they use Ethernet for configuration and monitoring and Modbus for
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[AFMUG] World Famous French Toast

[Jaime Solorza]

Good morning Sunshines
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Re: [AFMUG] I am back

[Jaime Solorza]

Actually, I  have never been busier
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I love how you retired and then went right back to climbing.  There's no
> such thing as retirement for a good worker!
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:09 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Soon
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 2:21 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't let him fool ya
>>>
>>> We almost had him convinced that tamales out of a can was acceptable
>>> food to eat.  Lot easier to do without regular pictures of yummy Mexican
>>> food.
>>>
>>> Hey, wait,  you've been back almost a full day and there haven't been
>>> any weather girl pics or food pics.   You holding out on us???
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 8:51 AM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> yay
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:49 AM Steve Jones 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ive been eating jalapenos without vinegar
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:47 AM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hola my fine feathered friends...
>>>>>> I have been very busy even though I retired last year.  Health is
>>>>>> good, I climbed a 100 ft. tower last week for a SCADA job near Kermit 
>>>>>> area
>>>>>> for Midland Water, plus we landed a lucrative contract with ASUS for Fort
>>>>>> Bliss Water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's new with you folks?
>>>>>> Peace
>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>> 915-861-1390
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Re: [AFMUG] I am back

[Jaime Solorza]

Soon

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 2:21 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Don't let him fool ya
>
> We almost had him convinced that tamales out of a can was acceptable food
> to eat.  Lot easier to do without regular pictures of yummy Mexican food.
>
> Hey, wait,  you've been back almost a full day and there haven't been any
> weather girl pics or food pics.   You holding out on us???
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 8:51 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> yay
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:49 AM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ive been eating jalapenos without vinegar
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:47 AM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hola my fine feathered friends...
>>>> I have been very busy even though I retired last year.  Health is good,
>>>> I climbed a 100 ft. tower last week for a SCADA job near Kermit area for
>>>> Midland Water, plus we landed a lucrative contract with ASUS for Fort Bliss
>>>> Water.
>>>>
>>>> What's new with you folks?
>>>> Peace
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>> 915-861-1390
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Re: [AFMUG] OT breakfast

[Jaime Solorza]

Lol

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 11:40 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> avocado tastes like an unwashed sweaty snatch
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> OK. I'll get it going. I had an "everything" bagel with cream cheese and
>> avocado. Might have been better if I'd had a little jalapeno.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 2/16/2023 7:45 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>> Wonder what Jaime had for breakfast this morning …
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

[Jaime Solorza]

Hey Steve...your music sucks,
>From Stil Rocking Old Geezer...

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 9:25 AM Steve Jones  wrote:

> thats a lie chuck, top kek was gen x or whatever my generation of feral
> fucks is (born 1978). We can work hard, handle technology, fix technology,
> fix analog, give zero fucks about things that dont matter, we have a
> bullshit filter thats out of this world, we fought for our right to party
> and got on the road where the sidewalk ends. We are the last generation to
> blame ourselves for our failures and the first generation to throw
> participation ribbons in the trash (we were the first generation to get
> them).
> you old geese still believed the government was our friend, and all drugs
> are poison (while feeding us pharmaceuticals like candy). You believed your
> elders to indicate respect, we questioned them for the same reason.
>
> gen whateverthefuckweare is the best generation, except we allowed music
> to be destroyed. We should have drowned the whole generation after us at
> birth to avoid that.
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 7:29 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I just realized, civilization peaked with boomers.  All downhill to
>> Armageddon from here on out
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2023 6:25 PM
>> *To:* Ryan Ray
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange
>>
>> Exactly what problems are young people facing?  Almost every single one
>> that wants to can enlist in the military.  That will feed them and teach
>> them a skill (and some manners, and how to work) and they will come out
>> with the VA and GI Bill.  Pell grants, student loans.
>>
>> If someone wants to better themselves, they can.  Kids today have it far
>> easier than ever before.  Work from home, online classes that are free,
>> hell you can learn highly specialized technical stuff on Youtube.
>>
>> What is wrong with making yourself a sandwich?  If you are broke, don’t
>> f**king spend.  You are making my point for me.
>>
>> Oh, the horrors of having to cook your own food, walking to work and
>> living in a single wide.  Those are human rights abuses man!  (said all the
>> snowflakes and they melted and went down the storm sewer)
>>
>> Where on the stone tablets that Moses brought down from the mountain does
>> it say: “Young people should have it easier than you had it”?
>>
>> You eat what you kill.
>>
>>
>> https://historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-about-the-younger-generation/
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2023 5:55 PM
>> *To:* Chuck McCown
>> *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange
>>
>> Not defeatist or jealousy or envy.
>>
>> I’m 34, I bought a 2500sqft house on a green belt in 2013 (25 Years old).
>> Sold my company, and I live an extremely comfortable life for someone my
>> age. No mortgage, a couple nice cars. I worked very hard, lots of long
>> nights, lots of learning to get to where I’m at, and did it all without
>> having any generational wealth to start with. To phrase it for you old
>> folks, I pulled myself up by my bootstraps.
>>
>> However, your attitude is what makes me call you a boomer. You seem to
>> have no empathy and are not willing to discuss the current problems facing
>> young people today. You keep referencing back to how you did it, and just a
>> few bucks in the 80's or the 70's or whatever. I could see it in your post.
>> Saying things like "Make a sandwich at home, ride the bus, live in a
>> trailer"
>>
>> Don't get me wrong Chuck, you're a smart guy. I've learned a lot from you
>> over the years both in person and through this list. I take that as one of
>> my core values is to listen to people, even when I think they're stupidly
>> wrong, and make sure I never close myself off to any viewpoint and that
>> makes me better in everything I do.
>>
>> I just think you're hand waving away a lot of current economic issues
>> plaguing the world. Young people should have it easier than you had it,
>> just like you had it easier than someone born in the 20's. Or should we
>> just keep letting trillion dollar corps run the world and you got yours, so
>> the young kids can go pound sand because their $18/hr job should suffice.
>> (BTW my first "real" job back in 2008 was 35k a year) I was 19. No
>> schooling, and that would be your $18/hr now.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 3:20 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Defeatist attitude.
>>>
>>> Or just jealous?  Envy?
>>>
>>> In 1990 I was so broke I was sitting on the side of the highway with my
>>> 4 kids (at the time) selling everything I had to get a bus ticket to get
>>> out of town to get to a job to make a few bucks to move the family.
>>>
>>> Fast forward 10 short years and I had enough to retire.
>>> Just hard work.  At 40 no less, not 50.
>>>
>>> And now 33 years later my house is 5 X larger than that.
>>> Hell, my garage is bigger than that.
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] I am back

[Jaime Solorza]

yep, i am 67 and still having fun...had to get my electrician's apprentice
license for two big projects!
plus hiking all over the place.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:52 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Jaime old pal, old buddy! Good to hear from you!
>
> Exciting times when you can climb in your retirement. I made one climb
> when I turned 67, and decided to hang up my beeners.
>
> Anyway, you've been missed!
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/16/2023 7:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Hola my fine feathered friends...
> I have been very busy even though I retired last year.  Health is good, I
> climbed a 100 ft. tower last week for a SCADA job near Kermit area for
> Midland Water, plus we landed a lucrative contract with ASUS for Fort Bliss
> Water.
>
> What's new with you folks?
> Peace
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
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Re: [AFMUG] I am back

[Jaime Solorza]

yay
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:49 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Ive been eating jalapenos without vinegar
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:47 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Hola my fine feathered friends...
>> I have been very busy even though I retired last year.  Health is good, I
>> climbed a 100 ft. tower last week for a SCADA job near Kermit area for
>> Midland Water, plus we landed a lucrative contract with ASUS for Fort Bliss
>> Water.
>>
>> What's new with you folks?
>> Peace
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>> --
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Re: [AFMUG] OT breakfast

[Jaime Solorza]

Coffee ...
cream cheese bagel
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:47 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Wonder what Jaime had for breakfast this morning …
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[AFMUG] I am back

[Jaime Solorza]

Hola my fine feathered friends...
I have been very busy even though I retired last year.  Health is good, I
climbed a 100 ft. tower last week for a SCADA job near Kermit area for
Midland Water, plus we landed a lucrative contract with ASUS for Fort Bliss
Water.

What's new with you folks?
Peace
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Wireless Systems Architect
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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

[Jaime Solorza]

ssault weapon, so thats easy.
>>
>> You dont dictate whether people need or dont need anything, that you
>> opinion and its in regard to a fantasy item anyway, so pretty moot
>>
>> Instant background checks would solve a lot of issues, especially since
>> it can flag a restricted individual, you try to buy a gun when you arent
>> supposed to, you should get a quick visit from authorities to clear it out
>>
>> How would going after white supremacists stop the majority of the
>> shootings and mass shootings, since minorities perpetrate the majority of
>> those? Its always best to start with addressing the big problems first.
>> white supremacists, black supremacists, I dont think there are really any
>> other color supremacists out there. but both are the same card. best to
>> focus on criminals instead of idiots and emotions because CNN told you to.
>>
>> How would indicting trump have stopped yesterday or the mass shootings
>> under your god obama?
>>
>>
>>
>> You definitely shouldnt own firearms, I agree with you there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Seventy years ago, KKK was in full steam politicians were openly members,
>> racism was rampant and most every school had a boatload of firearms in the
>> lot and in the building. So your whole premise that this is a white problem
>> is just you being a racist bigot. There were little to no mass shootings or
>> school shootings.
>>
>>
>>
>> The moron in new york at least made it clear in his manifesto that was
>> pretty much plagiarized from the australian guy that this happens where it
>> happens because there are no guns there. he was very clear in that. Mass
>> shooters (gang members and the CNN image of the white kid) have one thing
>> in common, theyre cowards. They wont target armed areas, thats why schools
>> and gun free zones are what they like to hit (and the fact that the schools
>> abuse alot of these guys)
>>
>>
>>
>> The left fights for no guns, no borders, no consequense, no death
>> penalty, no accountability for things they like, and then they wonder why
>> the natural progression occurs. Thats why lieberalism is a mental illness.
>> victimology and cliche dont get the job done. never has, never will, fiddle
>> and watch burn
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 10:31 AM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ban all assault weapons...
>>
>> Normal folks don't need those...
>>
>> Make purchasing guns harder and stricter background checks..
>>
>> Go after white supremacist groups aggressively  ..
>>
>> Cut the head of the snake off...indict trump
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 9:25 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>> What would you have them do?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:02 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> I stand by my posts...in Texas it's the Republicans who are strong gun
>> supporters...and fuck Democrats who don't do shit...
>>
>> Tony Gonzales for one .
>>
>> I call it as it is...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This has been building for decades and multiple administrations.  So why
>> is it always the total fault of Republicans?  Are Democrats so feckless
>> they cannot do anything but whine raise taxes?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing children or people with
>> assault weapons...they come here for a better life...
>>
>> You don't live near the border...
>>
>> You see things through a tunnel vision created by xenophobic racist
>> assholes...
>>
>> I have been to Uvalde many times for work and pleasure...as a grandfather
>> of 16 school age children this hit me very hard...
>>
>> Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro
>> life my ass..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>> No country that enacted these controls already had the volume of firearms
>> we have presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban them and you  have
>> nothing but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that democrats fight
>> very hard to ensu

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

Trying to convince me that these assault style weapons should be legal and
available to a non law enforcement persons would be a Sisyphean effort on
your part.
Cut the head of the snake was meant figurativelybut I would slap him if
I had the chance.  Not worthy of a punch.

On Wed, May 25, 2022, 4:27 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Griffin
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
> Cutting his head off?  Kathie Lee Gifford will confirm that is in fact a
> concern.
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 3:48 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> Calling for an indictment is not a threat.  Personally I would like to
>> see him and Hillary to spend a few days in jail.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 25, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Ban all assault weapons...
>> Normal folks don't need those...
>> Make purchasing guns harder and stricter background checks..
>> Go after white supremacist groups aggressively  ..
>> Cut the head of the snake off...indict trump
>>
>> Define "assault weapon".
>> Define normal folk?  Who says those people don't need them?
>> There's already a background check.  Those individuals that go through
>> the background check do not correlate to the offenders in most situations
>> What exactly are white supremacists doing that's illegal for someone to
>> "go after them"?  Are they hurting anyone?
>> You just threatened a former US president, which is an offense more
>> serious than some white guy hating other races.  So the only one doing
>> something wrong in this situation would be you...
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:31 AM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ban all assault weapons...
>>> Normal folks don't need those...
>>> Make purchasing guns harder and stricter background checks..
>>> Go after white supremacist groups aggressively  ..
>>> Cut the head of the snake off...indict trump
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 9:25 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What would you have them do?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:02 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>
>>>> I stand by my posts...in Texas it's the Republicans who are strong gun
>>>> supporters...and fuck Democrats who don't do shit...
>>>> Tony Gonzales for one .
>>>> I call it as it is...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This has been building for decades and multiple administrations.  So
>>>>> why is it always the total fault of Republicans?  Are Democrats so 
>>>>> feckless
>>>>> they cannot do anything but whine raise taxes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing children or people
>>>>> with assault weapons...they come here for a better life...
>>>>> You don't live near the border...
>>>>> You see things through a tunnel vision created by xenophobic racist
>>>>> assholes...
>>>>> I have been to Uvalde many times for work and pleasure...as a
>>>>> grandfather of 16 school age children this hit me very hard...
>>>>> Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro
>>>>> life my ass..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No country that enacted these controls already had the volume of
>>>>>> firearms we have presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban them and 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> have nothing but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that democrats
>>>>>> fight very hard to ensure whole people can get across. Ban guns and see 
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> that turns out. Disarm real people and every city and town will be 
>>>>>> Compton
>>>>>> USA. Stop the hugathug campaigns and the shootings will be less.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

I don't...

On Wed, May 25, 2022, 9:33 AM Jay Weekley  wrote:

> Hopefully Jaime doesn't have any guns.
>
> Jaime Solorza wrote:
> > Fuck our piece of shit governor,  Trumpabbott and all his gun loving
> > supporters...
> > Fuck his press release...
> > These pieces of shit...are supposed to be at an NRA event next week
> > Trumputinsky,  Trumpabbott and Ted Cancun Cruzado...fuck them to hell
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin Steffl  > <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
> >
> > 18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from
> > the right. These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of
> > sensible gun control.
> >
> > Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to
> > be passed. Background checks for any and all purchases, no
> exceptions.
> >
> > Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to
> > do nothing. They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to
> > keep gun nuts happy. Something over 60% of Americans support
> > stricter gun control.
> >
> > Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing
> > and shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your
> > politicians and ask them to fucking do something!! This is a
> > goddamn joke. These mass shootings only happen in America.
> >
> > I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion
> > if your party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action!
> >
> > On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM  > <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Figuratively inside the lines.
> >
> > Color Within the Lines - Album by Oscar Ortega | Spotify
> >
> > *From:* AF  > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> > *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
> >
> > ...you mean outside the lines?
> >
> > On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM  > <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely
> > have a lot of rules and they do want you to color inside
> > the lines.
> >
> > *From:* AF  > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> > McCown via AF
> > *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
> > *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> > *Cc:* Chuck McCown  > <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
> >
> > Once we had to cut a road with an excavator.  Then we had
> > to do compacted fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had
> > to be milled down on both sides so the profile of the
> > patch formed a T shape.  We used the hot sticky apshalt
> > oil in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to
> > dumping hot mix on it and compacting.  The guy running the
> > sprayer was almost empty so he sprayed some of the gravel
> > on the edges of the road surface in the gravel empty his
> > machine.  Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally
> > they just shut off the burner and pump and add more the
> > next day.
> >
> > An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat
> > clean up job where he emptied his sprayer.
> >
> > Then the next year they chip sealed that road.  That
> > involves laying down rock chips and spraying the whole
> > road and a portion of the shoulder with the exact same hot
> > sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year
> > before.  Same inspector was there.  I got out and asked
> > why UDOT can do it and we cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt
> > oil less hazardous.  He told me to get off his work site
> > or I would be arrested.
> >
> > *From:*Bill Prince
> >
> > *Sent:*Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
> >
> > *To:*af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
> >

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

I don't watch CNN, Obama is not my god..
I stand by what I said..
I come from a military and hunting family...I know guns...don't own
any...don't like them,  never have...


On Wed, May 25, 2022, 11:32 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> ther is not such a thing as an assault weapon, so thats easy.
> You dont dictate whether people need or dont need anything, that you
> opinion and its in regard to a fantasy item anyway, so pretty moot
> Instant background checks would solve a lot of issues, especially since it
> can flag a restricted individual, you try to buy a gun when you
> arent supposed to, you should get a quick visit from authorities to clear
> it out
> How would going after white supremacists stop the majority of the
> shootings and mass shootings, since minorities perpetrate the majority of
> those? Its always best to start with addressing the big problems first.
> white supremacists, black supremacists, I dont think there are really any
> other color supremacists out there. but both are the same card. best to
> focus on criminals instead of idiots and emotions because CNN told you to.
> How would indicting trump have stopped yesterday or the mass shootings
> under your god obama?
>
> You definitely shouldnt own firearms, I agree with you there.
>
> Seventy years ago, KKK was in full steam politicians were openly members,
> racism was rampant and most every school had a boatload of firearms in the
> lot and in the building. So your whole premise that this is a white problem
> is just you being a racist bigot. There were little to no mass shootings or
> school shootings.
>
> The moron in new york at least made it clear in his manifesto that was
> pretty much plagiarized from the australian guy that this happens where it
> happens because there are no guns there. he was very clear in that. Mass
> shooters (gang members and the CNN image of the white kid) have one thing
> in common, theyre cowards. They wont target armed areas, thats why schools
> and gun free zones are what they like to hit (and the fact that the schools
> abuse alot of these guys)
>
> The left fights for no guns, no borders, no consequense, no death penalty,
> no accountability for things they like, and then they wonder why the
> natural progression occurs. Thats why lieberalism is a mental illness.
> victimology and cliche dont get the job done. never has, never will, fiddle
> and watch burn
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 10:31 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Ban all assault weapons...
>> Normal folks don't need those...
>> Make purchasing guns harder and stricter background checks..
>> Go after white supremacist groups aggressively  ..
>> Cut the head of the snake off...indict trump
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 9:25 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What would you have them do?
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:02 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>
>>> I stand by my posts...in Texas it's the Republicans who are strong gun
>>> supporters...and fuck Democrats who don't do shit...
>>> Tony Gonzales for one .
>>> I call it as it is...
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This has been building for decades and multiple administrations.  So
>>>> why is it always the total fault of Republicans?  Are Democrats so feckless
>>>> they cannot do anything but whine raise taxes?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing children or people
>>>> with assault weapons...they come here for a better life...
>>>> You don't live near the border...
>>>> You see things through a tunnel vision created by xenophobic racist
>>>> assholes...
>>>> I have been to Uvalde many times for work and pleasure...as a
>>>> grandfather of 16 school age children this hit me very hard...
>>>> Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro
>>>> life my ass..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No country that enacted these controls already had the volume of
>>>>> firearms we have presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban them and you
>>>>> have nothing but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that democrats
&

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

Ban all assault weapons...
Normal folks don't need those...
Make purchasing guns harder and stricter background checks..
Go after white supremacist groups aggressively  ..
Cut the head of the snake off...indict trump

On Wed, May 25, 2022, 9:25 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> What would you have them do?
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:02 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
> I stand by my posts...in Texas it's the Republicans who are strong gun
> supporters...and fuck Democrats who don't do shit...
> Tony Gonzales for one .
> I call it as it is...
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>> This has been building for decades and multiple administrations.  So why
>> is it always the total fault of Republicans?  Are Democrats so feckless
>> they cannot do anything but whine raise taxes?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing children or people with
>> assault weapons...they come here for a better life...
>> You don't live near the border...
>> You see things through a tunnel vision created by xenophobic racist
>> assholes...
>> I have been to Uvalde many times for work and pleasure...as a grandfather
>> of 16 school age children this hit me very hard...
>> Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro
>> life my ass..
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No country that enacted these controls already had the volume of
>>> firearms we have presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban them and you
>>> have nothing but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that democrats
>>> fight very hard to ensure whole people can get across. Ban guns and see how
>>> that turns out. Disarm real people and every city and town will be Compton
>>> USA. Stop the hugathug campaigns and the shootings will be less.
>>>
>>> You folks are only upset because some white kids may have been shot. You
>>> dont care that more kids of color are killed annually in here and there
>>> shootings. Get off the big ticket outrage bandwagon, its dispicable.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 12:01 AM Darin Steffl 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stricter gun laws absolutely help reduce violence. Look at every other
>>>> country in the world and how much less gun violence they have.
>>>>
>>>> Making guns harder to buy reduces the supply available to criminals.
>>>> Every gun a criminal has/had was at some point sold legally. Requiring
>>>> universal background checks means no more private sales without a
>>>> background check. Gun shows and private party sales don't require checks
>>>> today when they should.
>>>>
>>>> If background checks are required for any sale or gift of a firearm,
>>>> this means sellers will be liable if the firearm they sold/gifted is used
>>>> to commit a crime if they didn't do a background check. Hold people
>>>> accountable who put guns into the hands of bad people. If a child uses a
>>>> parent's gun to commit a crime, charge the parent for something serious.
>>>> Send a message that guns are serious and dangerous in the wrong hands.
>>>> People will lock up their guns and be way more careful about who they sell
>>>> or gift them to if they are liable for crimes committed using their
>>>> firearm.
>>>>
>>>> Can't you see how these measures will reduce the supply of legal guns
>>>> going to criminals and mentally unstable people? Again, look at every other
>>>> country that has either gun bans or strict gun control and their statistics
>>>> clearly show that they have less gun violence per capita. If it works
>>>> everywhere else, it WILL work here.
>>>>
>>>> Red flag laws and revokation of gun ownership should be passed too so
>>>> if someone becomes mentally unstable and starts posting about threats or
>>>> violence they want to cause, the sheriff should be able to sieze their guns
>>>> until they have a psych eval and can prove they're sane enough to get their
>>>> guns back.
>>>>
>>>> This is a stupid saying: the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a
>>>> good guy with a gun.
>>>>
>>>> The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is t

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

 High School.
Marshall County High School.
Sal Castro Middle School.
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
Great Mills High School
Central Michigan University
Huffman High School
Frederick Douglass High School
Forest High School
Highland High School
Dixon High School
Santa Fe High School
Noblesville West Middle School
University of North Carolina Charlotte
STEM School Highlands Ranch
Edgewood High School
Palm Beach Central High School
Providence Career & Technical Academy
Fairley High School (school bus)
Canyon Springs High School
Dennis Intermediate School
Florida International University
Central Elementary School
Cascade Middle School
Davidson High School
Prairie View A & M University
Altascocita High School
Central Academy of Excellence
Cleveland High School
Robert E. Lee High School
Cheyenne South High School
Grambling State University
Blountsville Elementary School
Holmes County, Mississippi (school bus)
Prescott High School
College of the Mainland
Wynbrooke Elementary School
UNC Charlotte
Riverview Florida (school bus)
Second Chance High School
Carman-Ainsworth High School
Williwaw Elementary School
Monroe Clark Middle School
Central Catholic High School
Jeanette High School
Eastern Hills High School
DeAnza High School
Ridgway High School
Reginald F. Lewis High School
Saugus High School
Pleasantville High School
Waukesha South High School
Oshkosh High School
Catholic Academy of New Haven
Bellaire High School
North Crowley High School
McAuliffe Elementary School
South Oak Cliff High School
Texas A University-Commerce
Sonora High School
Western Illinois University
Oxford High School
Robb Elementary School

We have to fix this.  This is abhorrent.  Demand change.
“Policy and change” should accompany “thoughts and prayers. “

On Wed, May 25, 2022, 9:02 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I stand by my posts...in Texas it's the Republicans who are strong gun
> supporters...and fuck Democrats who don't do shit...
> Tony Gonzales for one .
> I call it as it is...
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>> This has been building for decades and multiple administrations.  So why
>> is it always the total fault of Republicans?  Are Democrats so feckless
>> they cannot do anything but whine raise taxes?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing children or people with
>> assault weapons...they come here for a better life...
>> You don't live near the border...
>> You see things through a tunnel vision created by xenophobic racist
>> assholes...
>> I have been to Uvalde many times for work and pleasure...as a grandfather
>> of 16 school age children this hit me very hard...
>> Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro
>> life my ass..
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No country that enacted these controls already had the volume of
>>> firearms we have presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban them and you
>>> have nothing but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that democrats
>>> fight very hard to ensure whole people can get across. Ban guns and see how
>>> that turns out. Disarm real people and every city and town will be Compton
>>> USA. Stop the hugathug campaigns and the shootings will be less.
>>>
>>> You folks are only upset because some white kids may have been shot. You
>>> dont care that more kids of color are killed annually in here and there
>>> shootings. Get off the big ticket outrage bandwagon, its dispicable.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 12:01 AM Darin Steffl 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stricter gun laws absolutely help reduce violence. Look at every other
>>>> country in the world and how much less gun violence they have.
>>>>
>>>> Making guns harder to buy reduces the supply available to criminals.
>>>> Every gun a criminal has/had was at some point sold legally. Requiring
>>>> universal background checks means no more private sales without a
>>>> background check. Gun shows and private party sales don't require checks
>>>> today when they should.
>>>>
>>>> If background checks are required for any sale or gift of a firearm,
>>>> this means sellers will be liable if the firearm they sold/gifted is used
>>>> to commit a crime if they didn't do a background check. Hold people
>>>> accountable who put guns into the hands of bad people. If a child uses a
>>>> parent's gun to commit a crime, charge the parent for something serious.
>>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

I stand by my posts...in Texas it's the Republicans who are strong gun
supporters...and fuck Democrats who don't do shit...
Tony Gonzales for one .
I call it as it is...

On Wed, May 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> This has been building for decades and multiple administrations.  So why
> is it always the total fault of Republicans?  Are Democrats so feckless
> they cannot do anything but whine raise taxes?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing children or people with
> assault weapons...they come here for a better life...
> You don't live near the border...
> You see things through a tunnel vision created by xenophobic racist
> assholes...
> I have been to Uvalde many times for work and pleasure...as a grandfather
> of 16 school age children this hit me very hard...
> Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro
> life my ass..
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> No country that enacted these controls already had the volume of firearms
>> we have presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban them and you  have
>> nothing but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that democrats fight
>> very hard to ensure whole people can get across. Ban guns and see how that
>> turns out. Disarm real people and every city and town will be Compton USA.
>> Stop the hugathug campaigns and the shootings will be less.
>>
>> You folks are only upset because some white kids may have been shot. You
>> dont care that more kids of color are killed annually in here and there
>> shootings. Get off the big ticket outrage bandwagon, its dispicable.
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 12:01 AM Darin Steffl 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Stricter gun laws absolutely help reduce violence. Look at every other
>>> country in the world and how much less gun violence they have.
>>>
>>> Making guns harder to buy reduces the supply available to criminals.
>>> Every gun a criminal has/had was at some point sold legally. Requiring
>>> universal background checks means no more private sales without a
>>> background check. Gun shows and private party sales don't require checks
>>> today when they should.
>>>
>>> If background checks are required for any sale or gift of a firearm,
>>> this means sellers will be liable if the firearm they sold/gifted is used
>>> to commit a crime if they didn't do a background check. Hold people
>>> accountable who put guns into the hands of bad people. If a child uses a
>>> parent's gun to commit a crime, charge the parent for something serious.
>>> Send a message that guns are serious and dangerous in the wrong hands.
>>> People will lock up their guns and be way more careful about who they sell
>>> or gift them to if they are liable for crimes committed using their
>>> firearm.
>>>
>>> Can't you see how these measures will reduce the supply of legal guns
>>> going to criminals and mentally unstable people? Again, look at every other
>>> country that has either gun bans or strict gun control and their statistics
>>> clearly show that they have less gun violence per capita. If it works
>>> everywhere else, it WILL work here.
>>>
>>> Red flag laws and revokation of gun ownership should be passed too so if
>>> someone becomes mentally unstable and starts posting about threats or
>>> violence they want to cause, the sheriff should be able to sieze their guns
>>> until they have a psych eval and can prove they're sane enough to get their
>>> guns back.
>>>
>>> This is a stupid saying: the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a
>>> good guy with a gun.
>>>
>>> The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure they never
>>> have access to a gun to begin with. There's multiple reasons why arming
>>> more people is a bad idea. There's too many cooks in the kitchen then. Say
>>> you're in Texas at church where many people carry. Someone decides to start
>>> killing people in church so 20 "good guys" with guns pull out their pistol
>>> and have to decide who the bad guy is... How many good guys end up getting
>>> shot by other good guys? The answer is quite a few. You don't always know
>>> who the bad guy with a gun is if all the good guys with guns draw at the
>>> same time. You could be shot by other good guys or cops on accident. Worse
>>> yet would be shooting innocent bystanders because there's a 20 

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

Truth is guns move south to cartels from the US...they are better armed
than Mexican law enforcement...


On Wed, May 25, 2022, 7:54 AM Steve Jones  wrote:

> Never said illegals shoot kids, said if you can get whole bodies through a
> porous border, you can move guns across it, they're smaller
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 7:39 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing children or people with
>> assault weapons...they come here for a better life...
>> You don't live near the border...
>> You see things through a tunnel vision created by xenophobic racist
>> assholes...
>> I have been to Uvalde many times for work and pleasure...as a grandfather
>> of 16 school age children this hit me very hard...
>> Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro
>> life my ass..
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No country that enacted these controls already had the volume of
>>> firearms we have presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban them and you
>>> have nothing but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that democrats
>>> fight very hard to ensure whole people can get across. Ban guns and see how
>>> that turns out. Disarm real people and every city and town will be Compton
>>> USA. Stop the hugathug campaigns and the shootings will be less.
>>>
>>> You folks are only upset because some white kids may have been shot. You
>>> dont care that more kids of color are killed annually in here and there
>>> shootings. Get off the big ticket outrage bandwagon, its dispicable.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 12:01 AM Darin Steffl 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stricter gun laws absolutely help reduce violence. Look at every other
>>>> country in the world and how much less gun violence they have.
>>>>
>>>> Making guns harder to buy reduces the supply available to criminals.
>>>> Every gun a criminal has/had was at some point sold legally. Requiring
>>>> universal background checks means no more private sales without a
>>>> background check. Gun shows and private party sales don't require checks
>>>> today when they should.
>>>>
>>>> If background checks are required for any sale or gift of a firearm,
>>>> this means sellers will be liable if the firearm they sold/gifted is used
>>>> to commit a crime if they didn't do a background check. Hold people
>>>> accountable who put guns into the hands of bad people. If a child uses a
>>>> parent's gun to commit a crime, charge the parent for something serious.
>>>> Send a message that guns are serious and dangerous in the wrong hands.
>>>> People will lock up their guns and be way more careful about who they sell
>>>> or gift them to if they are liable for crimes committed using their
>>>> firearm.
>>>>
>>>> Can't you see how these measures will reduce the supply of legal guns
>>>> going to criminals and mentally unstable people? Again, look at every other
>>>> country that has either gun bans or strict gun control and their statistics
>>>> clearly show that they have less gun violence per capita. If it works
>>>> everywhere else, it WILL work here.
>>>>
>>>> Red flag laws and revokation of gun ownership should be passed too so
>>>> if someone becomes mentally unstable and starts posting about threats or
>>>> violence they want to cause, the sheriff should be able to sieze their guns
>>>> until they have a psych eval and can prove they're sane enough to get their
>>>> guns back.
>>>>
>>>> This is a stupid saying: the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a
>>>> good guy with a gun.
>>>>
>>>> The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure they never
>>>> have access to a gun to begin with. There's multiple reasons why arming
>>>> more people is a bad idea. There's too many cooks in the kitchen then. Say
>>>> you're in Texas at church where many people carry. Someone decides to start
>>>> killing people in church so 20 "good guys" with guns pull out their pistol
>>>> and have to decide who the bad guy is... How many good guys end up getting
>>>> shot by other good guys? The answer is quite a few. You don't always know
>>>> who the bad guy with a gun is if all the good guys with guns draw at the
>>>> same time. You could be shot by other good

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

> The solution to gun violence is not to hire more armed guards and police
>> officers to patrol schools and other public places. All that does is cost
>> tons of money and doesn't prevent a bad guy from shooting up a place. It
>> may only reduce the response time to take out the shooter. Think 20 steps
>> before we get to the shooting. Preventing access to guns is Step #1 in
>> preventing these mass shootings and requires no extra money or armed guards.
>>
>> Facts show these measures will work to reduce gun violence. Opinions,
>> thoughts and prayers do nothing to stop gun violence. Supporting the gun
>> lobby does not help. Allowing politicians to block all gun control
>> legislation does not help. Over 90% of Americans support universal
>> background checks yet the Republicans won't do a damn thing to pass it.
>>
>> I'll scream this until people hear it, the Republicans are the
>> obstructionist, pro-death party. Their only platform is to say no to
>> democrats. They blocked bills to reduce the cost on insulin, help increase
>> supply of baby formula, help reduce gas prices, etc. They actively try to
>> hurt the American people. They take away human rights. They lie about
>> science and allow their supporters to die from covid by spreading
>> misinformation. They try to scare their supports by putting the fear of God
>> into them with baseless claims of replacement theory, war on God,
>> indoctrination...
>>
>> The party has become a joke. No spine and full of cowards who won't stand
>> up to hateful rhetoric. A coup attempt on January 6 and the party still
>> spreads the big lie that trump won when he clearly lost in the most secure
>> election in history. The party is becoming worthless and the younger
>> generation won't tolerate all the BS.
>>
>> Democrat is the progressive party that cares about all people and as long
>> as we keep it moderate and speak up about what we like and don't like, they
>> are likely to listen. Reach out to your politicians and tell them what you
>> want them to do if you don't agree with their platform.
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:25 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Fuck our piece of shit governor,  Trumpabbott and all his gun loving
>>> supporters...
>>> Fuck his press release...
>>> These pieces of shit...are supposed to be at an NRA event next week
>>> Trumputinsky,  Trumpabbott and Ted Cancun Cruzado...fuck them to hell
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin Steffl 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from the
>>>> right. These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of sensible gun
>>>> control.
>>>>
>>>> Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to be
>>>> passed. Background checks for any and all purchases, no exceptions.
>>>>
>>>> Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to do
>>>> nothing. They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to keep gun
>>>> nuts happy. Something over 60% of Americans support stricter gun control.
>>>>
>>>> Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing and
>>>> shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your politicians
>>>> and ask them to fucking do something!! This is a goddamn joke. These mass
>>>> shootings only happen in America.
>>>>
>>>> I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion if
>>>> your party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Figuratively inside the lines.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Color Within the Lines - Album by Oscar Ortega | Spotify]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...you mean outside the lines?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of
>>>>> rules and they do want you to color inside the lines.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

Fuck our piece of shit governor,  Trumpabbott and all his gun loving
supporters...
Fuck his press release...
These pieces of shit...are supposed to be at an NRA event next week
Trumputinsky,  Trumpabbott and Ted Cancun Cruzado...fuck them to hell

On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin Steffl  wrote:

> 18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from the
> right. These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of sensible gun
> control.
>
> Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to be
> passed. Background checks for any and all purchases, no exceptions.
>
> Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to do
> nothing. They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to keep gun
> nuts happy. Something over 60% of Americans support stricter gun control.
>
> Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing and
> shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your politicians
> and ask them to fucking do something!! This is a goddamn joke. These mass
> shootings only happen in America.
>
> I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion if your
> party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action!
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM  wrote:
>
>> Figuratively inside the lines.
>>
>> [image: Color Within the Lines - Album by Oscar Ortega | Spotify]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> ...you mean outside the lines?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM  wrote:
>>
>> NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of
>> rules and they do want you to color inside the lines.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> Once we had to cut a road with an excavator.  Then we had to do compacted
>> fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled down on both sides
>> so the profile of the patch formed a T shape.  We used the hot sticky
>> apshalt oil in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to dumping hot mix
>> on it and compacting.  The guy running the sprayer was almost empty so he
>> sprayed some of the gravel on the edges of the road surface in the gravel
>> empty his machine.  Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally they
>> just shut off the burner and pump and add more the next day.
>>
>>
>>
>> An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean up job
>> where he emptied his sprayer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then the next year they chip sealed that road.  That involves laying down
>> rock chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of the shoulder with
>> the exact same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year
>> before.  Same inspector was there.  I got out and asked why UDOT can do it
>> and we cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt oil less hazardous.  He told me to
>> get off his work site or I would be arrested.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> but it's organic.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> 
>>
>> On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and
>> concrete are environmentally friendly”
>>
>>
>>
>> Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the benefits of
>> governance without the costs. In a libertarian society to have a 100 mile
>> road, you would destroy your car every trip because there would be no
>> single governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner. Sure we have
>> road issues now, but every property line you cross would be a new road. And
>> if john at mile 6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and you know keith at
>> mile 23 is gonna charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke
>> parents) doesn't believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly,
>> so mile 36 is made of soy and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at
>> mile 52 is a dick and stores all his nails on his road, then Greg up at
>> mile 99 he doesn't like people so he put boulders across his mile.
>>
>> These fools are just kid brains who want no government of someone else's,
>> they want their government based on their current whim. Most of their
>> arguments break down after a little long term logic.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best to not
>> push too hard on a 2022 

Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

What the Fuck...
"Donald Trump is calling for Civil War. Of course, like Vietnam and the
walk to the Insurrection, he won't be man enough to fight it."
Fucking idiot...

On Sun, May 22, 2022, 6:23 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Electron beams are very fragile; very few of them make it past the glass.
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 5/22/2022 3:35 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
>
> Yeah, I spent years sitting in front of CRTs, maybe that's why I have
> cancer?  I used to work on a 50" CRT PPI in combat on the bridge.  Got the
> bloody hell zapped out of when I went to align it once.  I wonder how they
> work now with LED tech?
> On 5/22/22 14:12, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Everything is LCD now, or OLED.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2022 1:41 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
> It is a myth that CRT is part of any curriculum.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 5/22/2022 12:19 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Well I for one refused to allow my kids to attend schools where CRT is
> used.   The radiation risk is not worth it.  But the BLM is just fine as
> long as they give me a permit to bury my fiber.
>
> *From:* Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2022 12:47 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
> I explode easily, sorry, just ask my wife.
> On 5/21/22 13:35, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Jan,
>
> Your reaction could be viewed as an example of things that gives liberals
> labels, like thin skinned reactionary snowflakes.
>
> Steve’s predictable, typical, over the top hyperbole seemingly caused a
> brain aneurysm.  Steve is a troll and this time he succeeded in spades.
> Most of the time we are amused by him.  A known quantity.  Standard bearer
> of the far right (when he wants to be, he is highly intelligent but he
> fakes stupid redneck pretty well).
>
> Why paint anyone right of you with the same brush.  Lighten up a bit.
>
> This makes the point of the right that you cannot work with the left
> because their heads explode then they turn the rhetoric  to 11.
>
> Don’t presume conservatives like Trump or Fox.  I hate both.
>
> *From:* Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:40 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
> Liberals?  Until your assholes try to take a human right away, then watch
> out.  Alt-right or whatever the conservatives call themselves these days
> are nothing but rat-turds attempting to takeover as dictators, another name
> for alt-right is fascist!  Alt-right conservative rat-turds have a warped
> moral-compass, confusing christianity, nationalism, fascism and organized
> crime.  You can tune in to Russia Today and listen to the same shit spewing
> as on Fox News.  Rat-turds are mentally disturbed sick-fucks who only kill
> the elderly women-folk shopping in grocery-stores.  I say let roto-rooter
> have their way with them and then deport them to Russia.
>
> George Washington (GW) was a liberal who was opposed to king George, his
> unfair taxes, arbitrary unfair laws and his church.  GW had a friend,
> Thomas Paine, a writer and an atheist who published pamphlets and got the
> revolution into high gear by informing the public!  GW would not appoint
> christians as army chaplains but he did give in to Congressional pressure
> by appointing a Unitarian as chaplain of the army.  Unitarians were similar
> to atheists/deists (maybe a god, maybe not) and GW did not like dictators
> nor state churches and felt two terms as president of a secular nation was
> more than enough.  GW had cousins and we're still here and we will kick
> your alt-right rat-turd asses again, plus we out-number you!  Don't tell me
> how weak liberals are, we're farmers, ministers, doctors, teachers and
> gun-smiths then and still are today.  My aunts (who became
> "Rosie-the-riviter" and/or put on a uniform to fly airplanes, pilot
> tug-boats, could kick your rat-turd asses wearing a blind-fold!  We kicked
> king George's ass, we kicked the South's ass, we beat the Kaiser, we kicked
> Hitler and Mussolini out and we'll kick out the Rat-turds by repatriating
> them to Russia!  Roto-Rooter to the rescue!  Just get us angry, then cover
> your butt-hole, we'll still find you by smell.
>
> Side stories: one of my distant uncles was part owner of the Peggy
> Stewart.  Rather than pay the king the arbitrary tax on the tea, he set
> fire to the ship and sank her.  When we get angry, we get even and fight
> back!  Another ancestor had to move from Kentucky for operating an
> underground railroad, they almost caught him.  So he moved across the river
> to Indiana and kept it going.  Sometimes we lose.  An ancestor befriended
> Tecumseh by repairing his gun, so later while on the warpath, Tecumseh
> killed and buried him with his scalp intact and wearing new moccasins, he
> had earned Tecumseh's respect even in death.  He had a leg injury from the
> revolutionary war and couldn't run, so he stayed to fight while his helpers
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: my adventure

[Jaime Solorza]

You got this Steve..

On Sat, May 21, 2022, 3:24 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> So for the last three months I've been creating my company, getting all
> that stuff in order, spending a shit ton of money (for me). But the last
> pieces are falling in place on monday. I pick my drill back up from vermeer
> (12,300 dollar repair quote, but they managed to fix my strike alert and
> saved me 3000 bucks). Probably not a good business decision to put that
> much into an old drill when the drill is worth less than the repair, but it
> gets me in a drill.
> I have a contract that's local for around 2 years work, fairly low rate
> per foot compared to what's out there, but its local and all I can eat when
> I want to eat it, so I can keep my fulltime job while I transition. I
> figure spend this year and maybe next building experience with my son, then
> chase the bigger dough.
> The underground industry seems a whole lot like the wisp industry, where
> theres a whole bunch of strangers willing to help strangers succeed with
> good advice. Theres some assholes, but same here.
> Once I get operational and have the toolset refined with some experience
> I'll be heavily pimping to the wisp degenerates turning fisp, I think
> theres a good number that a guy can operate at to be affordable to small
> outfits and still get a little money in the wallet.
> My kid operated a mini ex for the first time, the video games actually
> paid off, he got the feather concept of the controls down, so he may leave
> me to go do that after some experience, dont blame him a bit if he does,
> equipment operators get the best cushions in the seats and the best
> paychecks.
> Just need to hand over the workmans comp certificate when I have the drill
> back in hand and I start making the millions.
> God is good, even if I'm not.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Jaime Solorza]

Lots of bullshit out there...especially here in Texas
Cruz and Trumpabbott are fucking idiots...
Power plants failing...people are pissed...good thing El Paso isn't part of
Ercot...btw fuck Trumpabbott

On Wed, May 18, 2022, 4:12 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.
>
> That is how I would describe some of my kids.
>
> The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.
>
> Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners just
> to be able to still see some of my kids.
> Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime
> sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims
> just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in
> the woods.  Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.
>
> Odd times
> I loved my parents and grandparents.
> Never felt they had to earn it.
> Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said.
>
> Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me.  Our families were
> separate all while the kids were growing.
> But some of hers have done the same things to her.  Using the exact same
> vernacular.
>
> Must have something to do with energy drinks I think.
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Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing on

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep

On Tue, May 10, 2022, 9:02 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

>
> Lights are on, but nobody's home.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 5/10/2022 7:57 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> > ?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: its home

[Jaime Solorza]

My snowflake virgin ears with all this  double entendre..
Stand behind me Satanno wait, that's not what I meant!!

On Sun, May 1, 2022, 10:09 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> Im just hoping my pullout game is strong
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2022, 9:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>>
>> Just remember, go easy, don’t get excited and ram it all the way in.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 1, 2022, at 5:55 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Not gonna lie, im excited like the first time i looked up a girls skirt
>> [image: 20220501_094319.jpg]--
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: its home

[Jaime Solorza]

Lol...

On Sun, May 1, 2022, 5:57 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> Not gonna lie, im excited like the first time i looked up a girls skirt
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Re: [AFMUG] OT FB

[Jaime Solorza]

Wilkommen

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 1:13 PM Brian Webster 
wrote:

> That’s better J
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2022 2:49 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT FB
>
>
>
> I actually speak several languages fluently and understand several more
> enough to order food and beer, that said, let me correct what I spoke to
> phone will driving and it came out as gibberish...
>
> "You gentlemen are missing all the weather girl pictures, great Mexican
> food shots, SCADA porn,  SCADA fiber work , and  all kinds of great stuff ,
> damn commies!!!"
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 12:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Jamie, I don’t know if we are having a language barrier issue or if that’s
> an inside joke…..but I have no idea what you just said.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2022 1:35 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT FB
>
>
>
> You gentlemen are missing where the girl pictures great Mexican food
> skater porn Skeeter fiber work just all kinds of great stuff damn commies
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 11:22 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
> So, I discovered this morning that I have to have my adblocker off to see
> FB posts...
>
> Is this for everyone?
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT FB

[Jaime Solorza]

I actually speak several languages fluently and understand several more
enough to order food and beer, that said, let me correct what I spoke to
phone will driving and it came out as gibberish...
"You gentlemen are missing all the weather girl pictures, great Mexican
food shots, SCADA porn,  SCADA fiber work , and  all kinds of great stuff ,
damn commies!!!"

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 12:23 PM  wrote:

> Jamie, I don’t know if we are having a language barrier issue or if that’s
> an inside joke…..but I have no idea what you just said.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2022 1:35 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT FB
>
>
>
> You gentlemen are missing where the girl pictures great Mexican food
> skater porn Skeeter fiber work just all kinds of great stuff damn commies
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 11:22 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
> So, I discovered this morning that I have to have my adblocker off to see
> FB posts...
>
> Is this for everyone?
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT FB

[Jaime Solorza]

You gentlemen are missing where the girl pictures great Mexican food skater
porn Skeeter fiber work just all kinds of great stuff damn commies

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 11:22 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> So, I discovered this morning that I have to have my adblocker off to see
> FB posts...
> Is this for everyone?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT FB

[Jaime Solorza]

Sounds like a right-wing conspiracy to me

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 11:22 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> So, I discovered this morning that I have to have my adblocker off to see
> FB posts...
> Is this for everyone?
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Re: [AFMUG] Testing uno dos tres

[Jaime Solorza]

Ha...as if

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 10:02 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Because it's porn...
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:42 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> May your wireless Internet slow down to DSL speeds
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 7:13 AM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well it would seem the filter is working then...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 9:49 PM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok...I posted some SCADA porn and it hasn't shown up...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022, 6:29 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yo man.  We don’t test.  Testing is for nerds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2022 7:19 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Testing uno dos tres
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.5gmmwave.com/5g-mmwave-frequency-bands/5g-mmwave-band-n260-39ghz/
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Re: [AFMUG] Testing uno dos tres

[Jaime Solorza]

May your wireless Internet slow down to DSL speeds

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 7:13 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Well it would seem the filter is working then...
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 9:49 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok...I posted some SCADA porn and it hasn't shown up...
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022, 6:29 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Yo man.  We don’t test.  Testing is for nerds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2022 7:19 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Testing uno dos tres
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Testing uno dos tres

[Jaime Solorza]

Ok...I posted some SCADA porn and it hasn't shown up...

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022, 6:29 PM  wrote:

> Yo man.  We don’t test.  Testing is for nerds.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2022 7:19 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Testing uno dos tres
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] List status

[Jaime Solorza]

I posted some cool stuff..dang

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022, 7:49 AM  wrote:

> I have a gap in list messages between 3/31 and 4/20.  I thought the list
> had finally died it’s final death.
>
>
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[AFMUG] Cambium cnReach N500 900MHz

[Jaime Solorza]

hello my fine feathered friends...
Have any of you installed or worked on the Cambium SCADA/IoT solutions? In
particular the N500 900MHz version...it is a strange bird...works as
unlicensed and licensed ..902-928MHz and 928-960MHz respectively.
We are bidding against GE-MDS SD-9 radios which I know are solid but way
more expensive and only work in licensed bands.
The unlicensed setting on Cambium radio provides a 4MBps pipe, more than
enough for cameras at important locations...
Peace
Slava Ukrini
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti LR-60GHz

[Jaime Solorza]

A local wisp has several 5 mile links pushing over 900MBps ...his only
complaint is rain fade which is rare but does exist...
He also has 24GHz HDX ptp links


On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 5:59 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> 1-2 miles max depending on rain zone. If you don't care about reliability
> ~18 miles is possible.
>
> https://community.ui.com/stories/contest
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 3:42 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> What is the longest ptp 60GHz link using LR 60 you guys have heard of or
>> done?
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[AFMUG] Ubiquiti LR-60GHz

[Jaime Solorza]

What is the longest ptp 60GHz link using LR 60 you guys have heard of or
done?
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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti LTU radios

[Jaime Solorza]

These are WISP clients of mine who are having issues...my SCADA links stay
under the radar (pun) intended because I use 5 and 10MHz wide channels, use
dishes at remote ends, try to keep every link at -60dBm, keep links as
short as possible and perform a spectral analysis before and during
deployment..
Most of these are rural water utilities away from airports and military
bases...
Too small to warrant expensive licensed radios like EPWU...they use 900MHz,
11 and 18GHz licensed radios and currently deploying a ton of 4.9GHz
Cambium PTP links...funny, I recommended all this to EPWU when I worked at
ESS back in 2007..


On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, 9:04 AM  wrote:

> I don’t have an answer for noise except to use a different band.  I mean I
> have no answers that you don’t already know yourself: tighter beamwidth,
> smaller channels, take a different path than the other guys do.
>
>
>
> Is CBRS an option for you?  There’s a fee of a few dollars per month for
> each unit in the SAS, but maybe you can pass that on to your customer.  I
> know munis don’t like recurring fees, but maybe get them to pay a lump sum
> that covers 10 years of SAS fees up front?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2022 10:24 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti LTU radios
>
>
>
> The AC radios push a lot more data than M5 series but can't deal with
> noise as well...even with advance features.
>
> DFS is almost useless in our area and the non DFS frequencies are
> saturated
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, 8:12 AM  wrote:
>
> Yes.  We have a few and I’m very happy with them.  The GUI gives you very
> intuitive feedback about available spectrum and airlink efficiency.
> Cambium 450m will give you more capacity on a single sector --especially
> with client radios distributed geographically to take better advantage of
> MU-MIMO-- but LTU is easier and cheaper and simpler to deploy.  If I was
> deploying on a tower, and I had to get the most possible use out of the
> more valuable 5.1 and 5.7ghz channels then I’d prefer 450m (assuming I
> could afford it).  If we’re looking at short range rooftop/microcell
> situations where I could use fat DFS channels then I’d prefer LTU.  If I
> knew I’d only ever have a limited number of clients on the sector, that
> would also be a strong case for LTU.
>
>
>
> There are some grognards who say Airmax AC is better than LTU, but I don’t
> believe them.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2022 2:13 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti LTU radios
>
>
>
> Hello my fine feathered friends
>
> has anyone tried these LTU radios yet?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
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