Re: [AFMUG] Cellular router question

[jason wilson]

Mikrotik LGH LTE6



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From: AF  on behalf of Jaime Solorza 

Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2023 4:06:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular router question

That's what I was thinking...

On Sun, May 21, 2023, 12:48 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just went through this with a customer. Dont do it. Get a sim router with 
external connector and go to an external antenna

On Sun, May 21, 2023, 1:31 PM Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have an upcoming project to install a cellular router in a canyon site with 
spotty service..(-127, -138dBm)...
I was wondering if anyone has used the output port of booster with cable to 
input port of cellular router?
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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution

[Jason Wilson]

I'm just starting to use these for some VERY remote sites.

https://www.tyconsystems.com/tpdin-monitor-web3

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On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 09:31  wrote:

> I've used the PDU at the bottom of the tower.  My only complaint at the
> time
> was the character limit on port description.  I think it was 11 characters
> or some suchI had to come up with some cryptic abbreviations when I
> really wanted to say "Power to Telrad Compact 1000 - 270 azimuth".  I think
> they were talking about fixing that in a future version of the base unit,
> but I haven't used any packetflux lately so I don't know if that's still an
> issue or not.  If you're powering 100W radios then you'd be limited to 3
> per
> PDU.  A fourth radio would put you over the 8A total.  That wasn't an issue
> in my deployment, but if you're planning 4+ sectors per tower then that's
> something to be aware of.  Next problem is wire gauge.  Anything bigger
> than
> 14ga is gonna have trouble squeezing into the connector on the packet flux
> PDU.  Voltage drop on 48V /8A with 14ga is going to be pretty severe at
> 300ft, but if the tower is short then it's probably ok.  I was deploying on
> 70ft poles, and we ran 16ga up to each radio so it was acceptable, but
> feeding the 8A input on the packetflux PDU on a taller site could be an
> issue.
>
> In any case I'd advise separate cables.  I know it seems wasteful, but you
> can have any tower dude climb up there and put the green plug into the
> green
> hole.  If you want the tower climber to strip and terminate DC cables then
> you'd have to be careful who you send up there.  If you're dead set on a
> single power run then something with built in breakers is a good idea.
> Packetflux PDU would fit that bill.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 11:48 AM
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution
>
> Mikrotik makes a nice outdoor fiber switch with a handfull of 10G ports.
> Does anyone make something similar for DC Distribution?  Run a single power
> cable up a tower and DC to multiple radios?  I'm thinking like 3 or 4
> licensed radios each needing 2 wire DC input and 10G fiber.
> Rather than running individual power wires for each one.  I've used a UBNT
> Edgepoint S16, taking the 56v POE Output ports, and running them through
> the
> MCT GIGE-POE to extract 2wire power to run to the radio.
> But that's extra pieces needing a place to be mounted.
>
> Would the Site Monitor 5 channel PDU fit the bill?  IT says 3A per channel,
> and 8A total.  So in theory that should be able to provide about 140w per
> radio.  Could put it in some sort of NEMA with a DIN mount.  The
> Sitemonitor
> base is hardened, would the PDU be as well?
>
> Are there other options?
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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution

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Something like this in a NEMA enclosure?
Dinkle Assembly Kit DK10N Red/Black 10 Gang with Jumpers DIN Rail Terminal
Blocks, 6-20 AWG, 60 Amp, 600 Volt https://a.co/d/gNA1zcn

Or power poles

Electronics-Salon Slim DIN Rail Mount 30A/60V 6-Position Power Distribution
Block Module, for Power Pole Connectors https://a.co/d/8sZiGdN

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On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 08:50 Nate Burke  wrote:

> Mikrotik makes a nice outdoor fiber switch with a handfull of 10G
> ports.  Does anyone make something similar for DC Distribution?  Run a
> single power cable up a tower and DC to multiple radios?  I'm thinking
> like 3 or 4 licensed radios each needing 2 wire DC input and 10G fiber.
> Rather than running individual power wires for each one.  I've used a
> UBNT Edgepoint S16, taking the 56v POE Output ports, and running them
> through the MCT GIGE-POE to extract 2wire power to run to the radio.
> But that's extra pieces needing a place to be mounted.
>
> Would the Site Monitor 5 channel PDU fit the bill?  IT says 3A per
> channel, and 8A total.  So in theory that should be able to provide
> about 140w per radio.  Could put it in some sort of NEMA with a DIN
> mount.  The Sitemonitor base is hardened, would the PDU be as well?
>
> Are there other options?
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Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Ticketing email outage

[Jason Wilson]

They also said no emails were lost. Except the didn't acknowledge the ones that 
were lost because they bounced.

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From: AF  on behalf of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 6:25:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Ticketing email outage

They publicly acknowledged it at 8:41 AM and resolved it by 1:06 PM.



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From: "Nate Burke" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 8:17:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Ticketing email outage

The Sonar ticketing is still broken for me this morning.

On 7/11/2022 8:13 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’d say email was easy until spammers made it hard.





From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 8:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Ticketing email outage



I really hate people that use third-party services.



E-mail is so freaking easy to do yourself.


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From: "Nate Burke" <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>
To: "Animal Farm" <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 7:26:44 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Sonar Ticketing email outage

Wondering if anyone else on here using Sonar is having failures opening
tickets in their instance via email.  The sonarticketing.rocks domain
(routing through mandrillapp.com) is rejecting emails I'm forwarding
there as 'Relay access denied'

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Re: [AFMUG] Solar panels

[Jason Wilson]

a1solarastore.com is where I buy mine, mainly because they have a
fulfillment center nearby in sacramento.

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On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 1:10 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> Battery hookup has some used panels
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 12:48 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>> Looking to do a couple of solar projects.
>> What is up with all the used panels on Ebay?  Where do they come from?
>> I wonder if it is a mistake to buy used panels?
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Re: [AFMUG] Happy Easter

[Jason Wilson]

I am getting all emails from a Gmail hosted workplace account


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From: AF  on behalf of Bill Prince via AF 

Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 8:09:57 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Bill Prince 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Easter

I can tell you this.

My gmail address gets zero, zip, nada from the af.afmug.com domain. When I send 
in subscribe messages I don't get an accept or a deny. Just nothing. It seems 
from what I can tell that my outgoing messages get to the list, but I don't get 
any responses unless someone sends me a direct message from their own server.

I created another gmail address and sent in a subscribe message. It disappeared 
into the ether with no response of any kind. Again; zip zero, nada. Nothing to 
filter because nothing comes in at all if it's coming from "@af.afmug.com".

I created a disposable email address with my yahoo account, and subscribed. I 
got a prompt response to confirm my subscription, which I did. and now I'm 
getting list emails here. It also appears that my outgoing to the li;st are 
working.

I'm not a sendmail "knowledgable" kind of guy, but it appears from this end 
that gmail is a black hole for animal farm.


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On Thursday, April 14, 2022, 06:52:05 PM PDT, TJ Trout  wrote:


Can someone check headers for server ip and run against the blacklists? I 
wonder if it's ip reputation or something else

On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 5:53 PM Bill Prince via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

Welp. It appears to be "something" with gmail. I created an alternate email ID 
in gmail, and sent a subscribe message. No reply from server. Now coming 
through a disposable addy in my yahoo mail.

(just need to remember the correct outgoing addy)

.
bp

On 4/14/2022 4:58 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
The guys running the mailserv gave me a bunch of stuff to do to the domain.  
That may help.

From: TJ Trout
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 5:38 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Easter

check your spam :) add a filter until Chuck can get the situation figured out

On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:24 PM Ryan Ray  wrote:
2 weeks without a message is too long.
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for 100 amp inline breaker, 2awg wire

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2 pcs 100A Audio Inline Circuit Breaker Reset Fuse 12V-24V DC, PowMr Reset
Fuse Holder 100 amp with Manual Reset for Car Audio, Stereo Switch and
Solar Inverter System
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07X251WGY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_5T2K0F1KYMJRVF8H6HNB

I think you'll have a hard time finding one without mounting tabs

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 09:47 Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Looking for something inline, so I'm avoiding DIN/panel breakers.
>
> I could use a fuse but I'd rather have a breaker =(
> https://www.amazon.com/LEIGESAUDIO-Gauge-Inline-Holder-Audio/dp/B07FSCBZJ9/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2DSPA9KC5HIBV&keywords=100%2Bamp%2Binline%2Bfuse%2B2%2Bgauge&qid=1641923133&s=automotive&sprefix=100%2Bamp%2Binline%2Bfuse%2B2%2Bgauge%2Cautomotive%2C51&sr=1-8&th=1
>
> Josh Luthman
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> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:37 PM Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> I cannot find wire size specs but have you tried these?
>>
>> DC Miniature Circuit Breaker, 2 Pole 500V 100 Amp Isolator for Solar PV
>> System, Thermal Magnetic Trip, DIN Rail Mount, Chtaixi DC Disconnect Switch
>> C100
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09D3X3H5P/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_3HQD9MS1FV94QFWKSEXC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 09:27 Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does such a thing exist?  All I can find are 100a breakers that won't
>>> hold big enough wire (wtf?) or a fuse holder which would work but I'd
>>> rather have a breaker if I can.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for 100 amp inline breaker, 2awg wire

[Jason Wilson]

I cannot find wire size specs but have you tried these?

DC Miniature Circuit Breaker, 2 Pole 500V 100 Amp Isolator for Solar PV
System, Thermal Magnetic Trip, DIN Rail Mount, Chtaixi DC Disconnect Switch
C100
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09D3X3H5P/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_3HQD9MS1FV94QFWKSEXC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 09:27 Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Does such a thing exist?  All I can find are 100a breakers that won't hold
> big enough wire (wtf?) or a fuse holder which would work but I'd rather
> have a breaker if I can.
>
> Josh Luthman
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[AFMUG] PacketFlux Site Monitor

[Jason Wilson]

Hopefully Forrest will chime in

PacketFlux users Is there a way to have the site monitor or other
products cut power to a relay port when power X gets to a certain voltage.
Looking to do LVD at a solar site to shed some current draw before the
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

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This showed up on my news feed this morning.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/airtag-vs-tile-which-bluetooth-tracker-should-you-choose


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 16:00 Steve Jones  wrote:

> you have to have the human trafficking pack
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting.  I never got the history map like this in my tests.
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2021 3:40 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>
>> Lulz
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 4:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am hoping Paul Dowling will release something that fits my needs.  I
>>> know he is working on it.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2021 3:08 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>
>>> I would rather pay more upfront and less monthly.  $155.40 yearly plus
>>> $69.96  $225.35 end of first year.
>>> I would like to pay no more than $7.50 per month.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason Wilson
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2021 2:33 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>
>>> I am using this from Optimus.
>>> https://www.amazon.com/GPS-Tracker-Optimus-Bundle-Magnet/dp/B01KKVKQ66
>>>
>>> Monthly/Yearly plan is a bit much.  I have them on my Gator and my
>>> trailers.  I will be swapping them out for the direct battery connection.
>>>
>>> https://optimustracker.com/products/gb100m-easy-install-directly-on-cars-battery-gps-tracker?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_pid=6626974564434&pr_ref_pid=6626927542354&pr_seq=uniform
>>>
>>> I get a notification when they move.  Battery lasts about 3 months.  You
>>> can set up a GeoFence for each unit, so if you are moving equipment around
>>> the yard you don't get notifications.
>>>
>>> All in all I have been very happy with it.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:04 PM TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Except airtags piggyback on every ios device that hasn't opted out,
>>>> whereas tile is only if you have installed the tile app, so the devices are
>>>> the same, the 'coverage' is vastly different
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:58 PM Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tile is just as good as Air Tag.  It's all based on BTLE locatability.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No but reading about it leaves me with little enthusiasm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Matt 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tried Tile App?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:54 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If something comes up missing, can you get in and poll it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2021 2:49 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've had mine for a couple of years.  I'm happy.  Keep in mind the
>>>>>>> up front charge covers all the data for the next few years, too.  At 
>>>>>>> $0/mo
>>>>>>> I'm much happier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The way the units are b

Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

[Jason Wilson]

I am using this from Optimus.
https://www.amazon.com/GPS-Tracker-Optimus-Bundle-Magnet/dp/B01KKVKQ66

Monthly/Yearly plan is a bit much.  I have them on my Gator and my
trailers.  I will be swapping them out for the direct battery connection.
https://optimustracker.com/products/gb100m-easy-install-directly-on-cars-battery-gps-tracker?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_pid=6626974564434&pr_ref_pid=6626927542354&pr_seq=uniform

I get a notification when they move.  Battery lasts about 3 months.  You
can set up a GeoFence for each unit, so if you are moving equipment around
the yard you don't get notifications.

All in all I have been very happy with it.

Jason

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On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:04 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> Except airtags piggyback on every ios device that hasn't opted out,
> whereas tile is only if you have installed the tile app, so the devices are
> the same, the 'coverage' is vastly different
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:58 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Tile is just as good as Air Tag.  It's all based on BTLE locatability.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No but reading about it leaves me with little enthusiasm.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Matt  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Have you tried Tile App?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:54 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If something comes up missing, can you get in and poll it?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2021 2:49 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>
>>>> I've had mine for a couple of years.  I'm happy.  Keep in mind the up
>>>> front charge covers all the data for the next few years, too.  At $0/mo I'm
>>>> much happier.
>>>>
>>>> The way the units are built I'm not feeling like they were intended for
>>>> a battery replacement but once it's dead there's no reason not to pop it
>>>> open and see what you can do.
>>>>
>>>> It's reporting once a day and that's what makes the battery last so
>>>> long.  Once you know there's a problem, you can enable constant monitoring
>>>> (which could start anywhere from 1 minute to 24 hours).
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The airtags test was a flop.  I put one on my son’s truck without him
>>>>> knowing.  It would occasionally report a location while on a busy street 
>>>>> or
>>>>> highway but most of the time no.  He does not use an iphone so it was a
>>>>> good test.
>>>>>
>>>>> The lack of reporting in frequently along with the lack of history of
>>>>> the locations make them unusable for tracking equipment for the purpose of
>>>>> finding it when it is missing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interested in the thing Paul Dowling is working on.
>>>>>
>>>>> gpsandfleet.com is pretty spendy.  Can you replace the battery?
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* TJ Trout
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:02 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a guy on YouTube who mailed airtags to n Korea and several
>>>>> other places just to track them for a video, pretty interesting.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Palo Alto City UUT

[Jason Wilson]

So now that you poked the bear, I had to look at mine. I also am in
California, east of you. I do not have the Palo Alto UUT fee.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 13:14 Bill Prince  wrote:

>
> Here's a curious one. My wife & I have cell service through Verizon.
> It's a simple plan with unlimited text, unlimited talk, and more data
> than we can use. We pay a fee for the service, and we pay a "fixed
> amount" for each phone. So far, so good.
>
> However, for some reason that I've never explored until this week, my
> wife's "fixed amount" is 28 cents more than mine. It's always been that
> way (25+ years now), and I always wondered, but never investigated.
>
> Yesterday I finally investigated. Turns out, the extra 28 cents is in
> the part labeled "fees and government charges". Looking into that a
> little more finds a fee called "Palo Alto City UUT" in the amount of,
> you guessed it, 28 cents.
>
> Now, if I lived in the city of Palo Alto, I might consider that normal.
> However, we don't live in the city of Palo Alto.
>
> In fact, we don't even live in the same county as Palo Alto. While Palo
> Alto is relatively close, it IS in the next county. Is this even legal?
> How can a city in the next county charge my wife's phone (and not mine)
> a utility tax?
>
> Have any of you looked in your Verizon bill lately?
>
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[AFMUG] Site Monitor Solar Monitor

[Jason Wilson]

I am wanting to monitor our solar controllers. I was cheap and did not buy
morningstar. Chinese knockoff with a 6 wire rs232. Would I need to modbus
or the serial interface?  I know I should have bout morningstar but it
happens.

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Re: [AFMUG] Good system for remote access to tower site when no Internet

[Jason Wilson]

It would require a repeater at key sites but they can be linked over the
voip switch.

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, 10:09 Jason Wilson  wrote:

> This has been used in the Amateur radio market for years. Might be able to
> work it for commercial use.
>
> https://allstarlink.org/
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, 09:23 Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> We use the Ewon Cozy products...uses 4G LTE cellular... extremely
>> reliable...
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, 9:13 AM Paul McCall  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have some towers that are waaay out in the boonies and often little
>>> or no cell service.  While working on the towers, sometimes the guys can’t
>>> communicate with the office.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Exploring options for using 2-way somehow.  Maybe install repeaters on
>>> strategic towers geographically to get to a tower that can convert to VOIP?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Of some other intelligent, cost effective solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Paul McCall, President *
>>>
>>> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>>>
>>> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>>>
>>> *Vero Beach, FL 32962*
>>>
>>> *772-564-6800*
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Good system for remote access to tower site when no Internet

[Jason Wilson]

This has been used in the Amateur radio market for years. Might be able to
work it for commercial use.

https://allstarlink.org/

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, 09:23 Jaime Solorza  wrote:

> We use the Ewon Cozy products...uses 4G LTE cellular... extremely
> reliable...
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, 9:13 AM Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys!
>>
>>
>>
>> We have some towers that are waaay out in the boonies and often little or
>> no cell service.  While working on the towers, sometimes the guys can’t
>> communicate with the office.
>>
>>
>>
>> Exploring options for using 2-way somehow.  Maybe install repeaters on
>> strategic towers geographically to get to a tower that can convert to VOIP?
>>
>>
>>
>> Of some other intelligent, cost effective solution.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *Paul McCall, President *
>>
>> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>>
>> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>>
>> *Vero Beach, FL 32962*
>>
>> *772-564-6800*
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Re: [AFMUG] Sonar

[Jason Wilson]

V2 is not ready for prime time. Basic stuff like no google calendar
integration.

I'm looking at power code and VISP moving away from sonar v1, tired of
waiting for 3 years of promises.

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 22:44 Jason McKemie 
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> Who is using it? I assume you can only sign up for version 2.0 now?
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Re: [AFMUG] Small outside plant AC BOX?

[Jason Wilson]

I just bought a few of these and I am very happy with them. The will be my
new go to.

https://www.ispsupplies.com/LightSaber-Optics-LSO-12UOD-600600PM

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 06:14 Caleb Knauer  wrote:

> The stuff from IOIO Box seems to be getting popular.  Haven't used one
> though so no feedback.
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 8:20 AM Tushar Patel  wrote:
> >
> > Any suggestions on a small outside plant AC BOX For few switch’s and 4,
> 100 amp hrs battery?
> >
> > Tushar
> >
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cable Attachment

[Jason Wilson]

All new builds and remodels get hangers and cushions. You'll thank yourself
later.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 16:26 Jan-GAMs  wrote:

> elctric tape doesn't slide down the pole either
> On 4/12/21 1:13 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> Electric tape? Lasts a long time
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 12:54 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been using T&B UV resistant Ty-Raps for attaching to towers, but
>> have noticed them getting a bit brittle in some locations. What are you
>> guys using for this purpose?  I have considered going with some Sitepro1
>> cushions / hangers:
>>
>> https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=2057
>>
>> Seems like a bit overkill though. Thoughts?
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Re: [AFMUG] Rick left Baicells?

[Jason Wilson]

>From their support facebook page penned by Rick.

I would like to announce a new change in my career, I will be venturing
back to the service provider side of the industry, where I started 26 years
ago. I have accepted a position as Director of Development at NextLink. My
roles are mostly, M&A activity, IOT research and liaisoning with government
officials and regulatory bodies. Most of you know, I love this industry
very much. I respect how hard everyone in the industry works every day, as
we all strive to serve the underserved people in our service territories.
Life and careers obviously are evolutionary. When I was in college, many
years ago, I never dreamed my career would contain so many twists and
turns. I have enjoyed each and every one of them.
I plan to hang around in this group to keep in touch. I may pipe in from
time to time with helpful comments like Cameron Kilton does. After all,
that is what this group should be about, helping others solve problems. I
will be truthful with you, I have usually found that asking nicely gets you
much better response than asking bitterly. There is way to much hate in
this country already. Social media has spawned a culture of “keyboard
warriors”, who are probably great people face to face, but their online
diatribes only waste other people’s valuable time and resources. If you
think you fit that description, please find a way to answer or contribute
to this group respectfully and calmly. Bitterness does not solve problems,
it only escalates the emotions of everyone involved. I grew up in a time
where “Please” and “Thank you” were commonplace and expected. I may be
old-schooled, but I think we all would be better off if people embraced
these words again. So out of respect for me, please think twice before
leaving a negative comment on this post.
I wish all of you good fortune in your business ventures and careers. I
wish all of you and your family good health and success. I may come and
visit some of you in the next year and I will be at WISPAmerica.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 09:43 Steve Jones  wrote:

> [image: image.png]
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bitcoin

[Jason Wilson]

Is that what dark fiber is used for?

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 10:42 Bill Prince  wrote:

> You may have to switch to the dark web.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 1/10/2021 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> I'm intrigued by mining cryptocurrency to generate heat in my house that
> pays for itself.
>
> I understand that there is something called profit switching that changes
> which currency is being mined based on profitability.
>
> I understand that ASIC miners are way more profitable.
>
> I understand that algorithm support in ASIC miners varies.
>
> Where can I go to separate the wheat from the chaff? Google returns a lot
> of crap.
>
> I understood that you mine the coin, stuff happens, then the coin goes
> into your wallet, of whatever type. You then hold it or exchange it for
> goods or cash.
>
> What are pools?
>
> What are stratums?
>
> Where can I find more information on asic miners, to find which ones are
> best able to generate a return for their cost?
>
>
>
> -
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> 
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> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Unsubscribe

[Jason Wilson]

Only applicable to some I guess.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 10:36 Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I didn't even know that Lent went away. I thought we had perma-Lent.
>
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> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:24:39 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Unsubscribe
>
> There shouldn't be any need for time-out's. We're all adults here.
>
> To hell with politics chat though. A few of you start actually acting like
> kids when the topic is broached. As a Canadian I don't really want to see
> it anyway. Bring back lent. This has been a great community for over 10
> years. Politics are the achilles heel for this list.
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:42 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:
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>> Respected and knowledgeable people too, which is even more worrying.
>>
>> I know a bartender who ended up saying "no politics or religion in my
>> bar, you can discuss those anywhere else, but find another topic here -
>> I've got enough of the stupid fights". May be time for that, or at least a
>> time-out for the biggest mouths.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 11:35 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not joking.  People are leaving...  Thanks guys...
>>>
>>> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:28 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Unsubscribe
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Unsubscribe

[Jason Wilson]

For a technical group there has been way too much politics. I'm about to
pull away also. If I want politics I'll go to Facebook.


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> Not joking.  People are leaving...  Thanks guys...
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:28 AM
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> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Unsubscribe
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - Spark Outrage

[Jason Wilson]

I had to read it a few times wondering what the outage was.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 17:04 Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Not trying to start a political discussion, but I went to look something
> up and a news headline on the home page said “Trump Pardons Spark Outrage”.
>
>
>
> I guess my brain was worn down from all the day-before-a-holiday support
> calls, but I probably spent a full 15 seconds trying to remember who this
> guy Spark Outrage was, and why he needed a pardon.  I thought maybe he was
> an associate of Lev and Igor.
>
>
>
> That would be a good name for an electrician in a graphic novel.
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Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro any issues?

[Jason Wilson]

I was just in my account a few minutes ago.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 11:59 Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Anybody else unable to log into their cloud account?  I’m out in the field
> so it could be at my end, but it doesn’t look like it.
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Re: [AFMUG] OTA Receive Antennas

[Jason Wilson]

When I was managing the local radioshack in my previous life, Neilsen
bought our high-end antenna vu-210 which I think is still produced today
under the antennacraft name.

If your just looking for a quality UHF antenna the 8 bay bowtie from
channel master is a quality antenna.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020, 06:38 Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Is there a more professional higher-quality series of OTA receive antenna
> one would be using if they're building out an IPTV system versus the type
> of antenna I would buy for my house? I know an antenna is an antenna, but
> for instance, I know build quality is a thing.
>
> If standard consumer-grade is fine, so be it.
>
> -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet
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[AFMUG] OT: slack salesforce

[Jason Wilson]

The Verge: Salesforce is acquiring workplace chat app Slack for $27.7
billion.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/1/21719666/salesforce-slack-acquisition-purchase-announced
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

[Jason Wilson]

Our local sheriff's office put light sensors in their light bars to dim the
LEDs at night. The board of supervisors received a complaint and they had
to act on it.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 17:16 Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I agree!
>
> If you figure out where to send it that would have any traction, I'd be
> game for it.
>
>
> Probably some kind of vehicle regulation that specifies the lumens
> permitted based on various factors, etc.
>
>
>
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> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:06:24 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs
>
> Am I the only one who thinks that the new LED's that all the emergency
> vehicles have now are dangerous?  I was about 1/2 mile behind an
> ambulance and the flashing LED's were so bright in front of me that I
> could barely make out the traffic light I was stopped at.  And why does
> the ambulance need to have approximately 200,000 LED Fixtures on it?  I
> get it, I see you, I can't not see you, now I can't see anything else.
> They saw an open piece of sheet metal and were like, 'We could put
> another strobe there'  It's even worse when there are multiple vehicles
> together at an accident scene.  I understand having them bright during
> the day, but they are just blinding at night.  It's like they need to
> have a day/night mode. Who do I write a strongly worded letter to
> expressing my displeasure?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid is over

[Jason Wilson]

Fly a 737 Max or get a Covid Vaccine?

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On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> I heard a rumor that an updated SR71 was working its way through the the
> skunk works.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 11/18/2020 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Actually I meant a totally new design for the high efficiency market.
> 100% ground up new design.
>
>
>
> I don’t know that much about commercial aircraft, but I don’t think the
> 777 was a rehash of anything, it was a new design, and well received.
>
>
>
> But on the other hand, the military is really good at putting bandaids on
> old planes.  Good lord, look at the B52.  I wish the SR71 Blackbird was
> still flying.  Yeah, strap some more efficient engines on that.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:03 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid is over
>
>
>
> Yeah. I looked at what they had to do to the 737 to get the more efficient
> engines strapped on. The big issue was (at least) that the larger diameter
> required that they be forward-mounted further in order to get them to clear
> the ground. Might have been simpler to re-design the landing gear to
> provide more ground clearance, but what do I know?
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 11/18/2020 11:58 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Can you imagine if Boeing had instead designed a totally new plane, which
> was just getting certified now, instead of sticking band aids on an aging
> design to meet competition from Airbus?  That’s what Boeing used to do.
> They lost their way, and in the process, forgot how to design and build a
> quality product.
>
>
>
> There’s no way they could have anticipated a pandemic when they took the
> quick route with the Max, and it doubles their pain that they would have
> had time to bring out a new, better design for that market, and the pilots
> are going to have to be retrained anyway.  But as a former Boeing
> shareholder, I think it was still a bad decision from a company that forgot
> why it existed.
>
>
>
> It’s also sad to see the 747 stop flying.  It was designed for a different
> era with different economics, but it was still a great plane.  I always
> tried to book a 747 when I was flying overseas, and it also seemed to be
> the pinnacle of every pilot’s career to captain a 747.  Hey, remember when
> a commercial airline pilot was a well paid highly respected job, rather
> than glorified bus driver?  When I was a kid, saying your dad was a pilot
> was like saying he was a doctor or lawyer.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:46 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid is over
>
>
>
> I always thought that when the 737 Max comes back the first year is
> exactly when you want on that plane.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:25 PM Robert Andrews 
> wrote:
>
> Could this be the perfect finish for 2020?
>
> On 11/18/2020 11:13 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > may I please be excused from flying on a 737 max for a year or two?
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 11/18/2020 11:09 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> >>
> >>
> https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936080917/faa-gives-boeing-ok-to-resume-737-max-passenger-service
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Small 50lb generator run time

[Jason Wilson]

I am getting about 18 hours on a good sized site.  I live in the land of
the wind blows the utility shuts off the power for a few days.

I have a fleet of the chinese honda knock offs.  the 25% capacity seems to
be up to.  I can run one unloaded for the same time.  I let it charge the
batteries and make a daily trip to refuel or put on a 6 gallon marine tank
and not worry about it for a few days.

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On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:49 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> Are you talking about the propane ones?
>
> 30lb propane tank on 2300w inverter generator.  Easy to move in and out of
> the truck.
>
> ~30 hours at a site with 4 EPMP 1000 and 2 Rocket backhauls.
>
>
> On 11/18/2020 2:43 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> So I've been eyeing these Predator/Honda one hand size generators for a
> while.  Right now we have a 6500/8500 generator that's got wheels and needs
> a ramp.
>
> The load is 10 - 125 watts.  Not much.  The generators now do a great job,
> but it sucks to deal with something so heavy (especially when you fill the
> tank only to have the power come back on a minute later!)
>
> The little ones seem great, but I'm wondering what kind of run time you
> can get with them with a 1 amp or less load.  It says 12 hours at 25%
> capacity - is that possibly accurate?  If we're at 10% capacity does it
> seem safe to say we could get 18 hours?  We're getting 12-18 hours with the
> big ones.
>
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[AFMUG] Frontier Rep

[Jason Wilson]

Looking for a Rep for Frontier and or CenturyLInk Preferably on the West
Coast.  This would be for DIA fiber service or Transport.


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Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

[Jason Wilson]

Apparently you have not tried to purchase a firearm or ammunition.

First time gun owner has skyrocketed this year.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 16:04 Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
> if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).
>
> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
> actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
> think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
> warehoused.
>
> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
> what the expiration date may say.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
> enough for actual desperation...
>
> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > Many are.
> > *From:* James Howard
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > So basically preppers?
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > 12 month...
> >
> > *From:*Ken Hohhof
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> >
> > *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our
> > pantry.
> >
> > *From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net
> >  wrote:
> >
> > If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
> > you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
> >
> > sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
> > to your business other than an easy way for customers
> >
> > to order your product?
> >
> > I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
> products.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:
> >
> > Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
> > gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
> > of safety stock would not cure.
> >
> > I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
> > stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
> > too tight for them to do that.
> >
> > *From:*Josh Luthman
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
> >
> > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > *sigh* daily struggle
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
> >
> > Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
> > in inventory.
> >
> > *From:*Josh Luthman
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
> >
> > *To:*AFMUG
> >
> > *Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does
> > any secondary distributor have some?
> >
> > Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
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Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

[Jason Wilson]

Doesn't the distribution chain know the term drop ship?

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 10:31 Josh Luthman  wrote:

> *sigh* daily struggle
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
>
>> Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in
>> inventory.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
>> *To:* AFMUG
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary
>> distributor have some?
>>
>> Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

[Jason Wilson]

I'd jump on it. Just like credit card fees make your pricing to include the
10%




On Mon, Oct 5, 2020, 13:21  wrote:

> I am getting some traction with developers for my fiber.  They want me to
> come in, they will put the subscription to my service as part of the HOA
> fees.  They will not let others in the ditch.  All for 10% of the gross.
> So I get 100% take rate.  I am not unhappy with the deal.  But I am
> wondering about agreeing to a perpetual royalty.  Anyone else done one of
> these deals?
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Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions

[Jason Wilson]

I would run it dry then put a gallon of true fuel through it and see how it
runs.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 07:08 Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> So a likely problem is the fuel is old/stabil isn't working or the
> generator really doesn't like corn?
>
> Would premium fuel help or just skip straight to 0% ethanol?
>
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> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 8:24 PM  wrote:
>
>> A bit of choke can mean that it is starved for fuel.  The choke makes it
>> a richer mixture.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2020 5:36 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions
>>
>> Well it starts no problem, it just doesn't like running the UPS without a
>> bit of choke =/
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:15 PM Robert Andrews 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I heart Sta-BIL...  Ski boat, untouched for 5 years.  Full tank, Sta-BIL
>>> in a little extra proportion.  Connected new battery, Jumped in, turned
>>> key, started.  That doesn't happen with untreated gas...
>>>
>>> On 09/21/2020 12:36 PM, Larry Smith wrote:
>>> > I have learned to almost love Sta-BIL 360 Marine fuel stabilizer.
>>> > Use it in our golf cart, boat, motorcycles, lawn mowers, anything
>>> > that can (and likely) does sit for any period of time with ethanol
>>> > fuel in it.  It seems to actually work.
>>> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions

[Jason Wilson]

Some UPS don't care for an unregulated AC. Either run your current
generator through a line conditioner or go with inverter generators. The
latter would be my choice and is what I use. Way back in the day I had
cisco t1 routers that would not run on a 6kw portable generator. I had to
use my truck inverter to power the site.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 10:49 Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Ken's answer of "use an inverter generator" is probably the simplest
> thing.  You'll have way fewer problems than with any other portable
> generator.  Also "dramatically oversize the generator" would be a good
> solution too.
>
> Half the windings on the generator give you a 110v phase.  The other half
> give you the other 110v phase.  Both together gives you the 220v.
>
> Are both UPS's about 5-6 amps, or is one much heavier loaded than the
> other?  Are they both on the same phase or are they on opposite phases?  A
> wiring diagram for the Troy-Bilt 6250 shows two separate circuit breakers
> feeding two separate duplexes, so you'd want to distribute load across them
> both.
>
> If one phase has more load than the other, then there's more resistance on
> one side of the stator.  That'll make the engine run rough and that'll make
> the frequency unstable. Lights and power tools won't care, but UPS's will.
> If that was the issue, then the engine would run better with a 220v UPS.
> If the imbalance is real bad you can even stall the engine. A bigger engine
> won't care so much, and an inverter generator doesn't have this issue at
> all.  At one time when the server room had to run on a 6KW generator I had
> lots of problems until I carefully balanced the loadsso there's my
> anecdotal/experimental evidence.
>
> There might also be a sensitivity setting on the UPS.  I'm not sure about
> that specific model, but on some of them you can get into the management
> software and change them to be less sensitive about the AC input.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
> On 9/21/2020 10:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> So Friday we have another 3 phase go down in the building.  They unplugged
> it all so that wing had nothing.
>
> As a precaution I start up the generator.  When they're cutting the other
> phases we are using I move it to the generator.  The generator complains
> and the UPS units don't switch over.  I drop it to say 90% open choke and
> the UPS switches over - but it's only 110v.  I'd like to know what's going
> on here.
>
> I have 175 feet of 10 gauge (times 2).  Two circuits on the generator, two
> runs of copper, two UPS.  UPS is doing about 5-6 amps each.
>
> What can I do better?  Should I?  It runs but I'd like to keep it as
> simple as possible to avoid "teaching someone" to lower it from full open
> choke.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

[Jason Wilson]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZDMY46/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_TDvFvChYWMDGb

I went to 30 amp plugs. No one will steal your extension cords. I make all
of mine.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 14:49 Steve Jones  wrote:

> thats what we do, it amazes me how hard male receptacles are to find at
> electrical supply houses, they tell you they dont exist, i think leviton
> must make the only one
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:54 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Kisae TS-20.  Available from Inverter Supply.
>>
>>
>>
>> Buy a small NEMA4 box with a backplate, tap 2 holes, and mount it with 2
>> screws.  Photo shows a TS-15 but there’s also a 20 amp version.
>>
>>
>>
>> We’ve also put a Leviton male outdoor outlet on the side of the enclosure
>> so you can plug in a generator without even opening the enclosure.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:18 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug
>>
>>
>>
>> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
>>
>> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
>>
>> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots
>> mansplaining hack about things I already know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anywho:
>>
>>
>>
>> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me
>> in the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

[Jason Wilson]

The Prowatt will favor one over the other. I have my AC main going to the
favored port. When utility comes on it takes over the the generator is
allowed to run out of fuel. The generators input comes from an outlet on
the outside of the cabinet.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 13:54 Jason Wilson  wrote:

> This is what we use.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 13:31 Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> No, I don’t think so.  Some are.
>>
>>
>>
>> You want to avoid the ones that won’t switch off commercial power until
>> it drops below something like 80 V.  Those are fine for boats and RVs to
>> switch between shore power and an inverter, because the commercial power is
>> either there or it isn’t.  But at our tower sites, it seems like at least
>> half of power failures are partial voltage, we see anything from 60 to 90
>> volts, and most electronics won’t run on that.  Nothing pisses me off like
>> driving to a tower site that’s down, and finding 4 days worth of fully
>> charged batteries for the inverter, but the ATS is delivering 85 volts to
>> the loads thinking that should be just fine.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:31 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor
>> switch/plug
>>
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't have thought of that.
>>
>> Are all transfer switches just relays with an ac powered coil?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C
>>
>> $36.50  Already in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19
>>
>>
>>
>> $29.36
>>
>>
>>
>> Or a pair of simple contactors wired up as a DPDT.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:47 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor
>> switch/plug
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, yeah.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A
>> plug to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the
>> automatic transfer part.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF   *On
>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor
>> switch/plug
>>
>>
>>
>> Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do
>> the job,
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
>>
>> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
>>
>> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots
>> mansplaining hack about things I already know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anywho:
>>
>>
>>
>> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me
>> in the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Motorola Nitro CBRS

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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> what is this two-way radio? Claims to use CBRS band? Is all CBRS 3.5ghz?
>
> https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/products/two-way-radios/mototrbo/nitro.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPphXPtzfkyc1AKPbTBOZiE-buJhRhFjs0lXYD6ndU8QrMb2mcUZv2xoCXhoQAvD_BwE
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Re: [AFMUG] SJEOOW cord

[Jason Wilson]

PDF with all of the information

http://www.chem.cmu.edu/groups/bier/procedure_files/general/powercords.pdf


Thermoplastic vs rubber jacket

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 11:52 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Has anyone used SJEOOW instead of SJOOW for running DC power up towers?
>
>
>
> It looks like it is more waterproof and has a wider temperature range, but
> doesn’t cost that much more.
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Re: [AFMUG] af11x

[Jason Wilson]

Additionally if you get a high band allotment you’ll need new duplexes all
the way around.

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 3:48 PM Jesse DuPont 
wrote:

> Yes. The AF11x "kit" (two radios, two duplexers, two antennas) is $1500,
> need two more duplexers if doing MIMO - another $500 ish. Then $2K (at the
> most) for the coordination/licensing fees. If you want better antennas than
> the UBNT ones in the kit, they'll be over and above. Radiowaves and KP make
> good ones (they're the same antenna, actually).
>
> 
>
> *Jesse DuPont*
>
> Owner / Network Architect
> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
> Celerity Networks LLC / Celerity Broadband LLC
> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
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> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
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>
> On 5/8/20 4:41 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> $4K, both radios, both antennas and a license?
>
> *From:* Jesse DuPont
> *Sent:* Friday, May 8, 2020 4:39 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] af11x
>
> About $4K, 700 Mbps. Open freqs completely depends on your location. Might
> have to upgrade antennas.
> 
>
> *Jesse DuPont*
>
> Owner / Network Architect
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>
> On 5/8/20 3:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> What is the cost, all in, license, antennas, everything for a system that
> will do 7 miles?
> What throughput will that have?
> How likely is it to find an open frequency?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

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Does that mean we will get a 2.0 release party 2.0 in Vegas?

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 5:06 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> No one I know is running 2.0 because it isn't finished and doesn't seem
> likely to be finished by fall.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:42:13 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
> Text to customer isn’t a feature yet.
>
>
>
> Are you running v2.0 Sonar already?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:04 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
>
>
> if you only want to do billing Platypus is still around and is relatively
> cheap, but it is literally a billing platform only.
>
>
>
> Sonar is a total CRM as well as business management platform...the whole
> enchilada.
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:58 PM  wrote:
>
> I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.
>
> So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.
>
> Simon is a standup guy.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
>
>
> Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.
>
>
>
> we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat
> but was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so,
> after 18 months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode
> way we moved to Sonar and haven't looked back.
>
>
>
> Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about
> every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet
> tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:
>
> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some
> point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform.
>
>
>
> Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still
> alive?
>
> Opinions?
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Re: [AFMUG] Tower Rope Suggestions?

[Jason Wilson]

My last order was from an arborist supply. Cannot remember or find their
info.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:46 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I just ask the guys at the rock climbing outfitters.  They have always
> fixed me up with stuff that works well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 6, 2020, at 8:26 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> 
>
> 3/8 kernmantle.  We do have some throw bags of lighter “accessory cord”, I
> think 7 mm.
>
>
>
> I’m not familiar with that brand.  When I started out buying rope I bought
> some “dual braid” and it was bad stuff.  I forget the brand, maybe Samson.
> But it got all kinky.  If Mark vouches for that particular rope, it’s good.
>
>
>
> Personally I like Sterling SuperStatic.  One decision is whether you like
> nylon or polyester rope.  Some people will only use polyester (e.g.
> Sterling HTP) for static rope applications because it has lower
> elongation.  Personally I find it too stiff and too abrasive and prefer
> nylon.
>
>
>
> If you look at the working load limit (WLL) which is typically 1/10 of the
> breaking strength, a 3/8 inch or 10 mm rope is fine unless you are hanging
> 12 foot dishes or something.  I think the main reason to have a 1/2 inch
> rope is for rescue where it needs to hold the weight of two people.  Or
> maybe for rappelling down a tower with a descender, which I think is also
> supposed to be done with a second rope for fall protection.
>
>
>
> But I have a garbage can with 900 feet of 1/2 inch rope and it’s
> prohibitively heavy.  No tower climber is going to want to pull that up the
> tower as he climbs.  You will have to start with a lighter rope and use a
> capstan to pull up the heavy rope.  You don’t appreciate just how heavy a
> 1/2 inch rope is until you try using one.  Mark mentions 5/8, I don’t like
> to even think about that.
>
>
>
> But yes, 3/8 inch is the sweet spot.
>
>
>
> I have now told you more than I know about ropes, so take with a grain of
> salt.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Tushar Patel
> *Sent:* Monday, April 6, 2020 8:39 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Rope Suggestions?
>
>
>
> Good suggestion Mark,
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Tushar
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2020 7:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Rope Suggestions?
>
>
>
> I would actually go lower diameter at 3/8”Unless you are pulling up
> the tower itself 5000’ is plenty strong and considerably lighter than the
> 1/2” or the 5/8”.
>
>
>
> The one you linked to is a good rope.   I think we have the 3/8” as our
> main haul line.
>
>
>
> We have heavier 1/2" and 5/8” ropes for climbing ropes.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:
>
>
>
> I am in the market to buy 1200 ft long double braid rope for pulling a
> load up the tower using capstan etc.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions on the brand and the size (1/2 or 5/8)?
>
>
>
> Following?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.gmesupply.com/lifting-rigging/pelican-load-pro-double-braid-rope
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tushar
>
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Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

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cause walking the roof and the scan time
>> >>> didnt grab it)
>> >>>
>> >>> there was  a marginal spot we considered, this would have been
>> >>> bad long term.
>> >>>
>> >>> we went through migrating a few hundred customers off 320 to
>> >>> EPMp the last few months, this would have been a godsend, half
>> >>> of them will need to be revisited in spring when leaves come
>> >>> out, but we were pressing to clear 320 to make room for 450
>> >>> cbrs stuff
>> >>>
>> >>> your installer can walk out the door each morning with a
>> >>> picture and have a best location target, install survey times
>> >>> will be minimized and youll know youre well beyond first good
>> >>> spot, and on the probably best spot.
>> >>>
>> >>> I dont come across a product im this excited about too often.
>> >>> If I had the time id go look at the last years NLOS and see
>> >>> where we missed revenue options. And this is just IDENTIFY the
>> >>> other two components are crazy perfect too
>> >>>
>> >>> like anything, youll need to know how to look at the data, and
>> >>> its only as good as the data you put in, I think we are all
>> >>> familiar with that here.
>> >>>
>> >>> This is nowhere near free, but i think abut how much less I
>> >>> can do on my Access points because of marginal installs, and
>> >>> how much we have lost in NLOS that didnt need to be
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX

[Jason Wilson]

Spin up an 3cx instance.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:56 PM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> We use our own Netsapuens system. I would be glad to get you a quote.
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 6:44 PM Matt  wrote:
>
>> Right now we have a fortinet phone system with good number of extensions.
>> Thinking of switching to hosted pbx to make it easier to use phone from
>> home, when fiber is cut, etc. What is everyone else using for phone system?
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Re: [AFMUG] Free standing 25g on roof (one section)

[Jason Wilson]

Take a look at this to get the creative juices flowing.

https://www.ispsupplies.com/RF-Armor-NPM30WM

I carry one in stock pretty much at all times.  Consider mounting
similar with ballasts to a trailer and put up 2 sections, it will get rid
of the rooftop issue.



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On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:28 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Working on a possible project and limiting to inventory on hand. We may
> want to put some EPMP clusters on a piece of 25g on some roofs. 2 of the
> roofs may be problematic as they are steel commercial roof with a pitch and
> steel ridgecap.
>
> We have a pile of 25g sections on hand and a handful of baseplates. on the
> flat roofs I could probably just frame out a ballast tray from angle iron
> and fasten the baseplate right to that couldnt I? 10 foot freestanding
>
> A peak sled could be fashioned over the steel roofs, maybe, but
> historically we tend to just stay off steel altogether, especially if
> its pitched.
>
> Aside from chuck, who can make everything. out of normal onhand items most
> of us have in the dead junk rooms, how would you get 10' sticks of 25g to
> stay put with that kind of wind load? We have been deploying 3k sectors
> with the smart antennas, but i think in this projects case i would
> forego them to limit windload.
>
> Most of these roofs are relatively short, 20-40'
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Re: [AFMUG] Dc system questions

[Jason Wilson]

My rule of thumb is 10% of your AH. 400ah of batteries would be a 40a
charger.   Float the charge voltage as per battery specs.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 8:27 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> First question, if i have say 4 12v batteries and want to double runtime
> by adding 4 more, will that require a bigger charger? Or can i just keep
> adding batteries and it just takes longer to reach a full charge?
>
> If for whatever reason, one of the batteries has less of a charge, once
> the rest reach full charge will it continue until its at the same level of
> charge?
>
> I seem to recall that i keep getting told 24 vold battery arrays are more
> efficient than 48v. If thats the case, do i just put a 24v to 48v power
> supply on it to run all my gear?
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] UV Resistant Label Machine

[Jason Wilson]

When running cable on a tower I’ll label the box I’m pulling from and the
tower end of the cable terminated. I’ll label before it’s terminated. I’ll
need to see what size I’m using. It is just like heat shrink. It will fully
encompass the cable. They work really well. I thought I had some pictures
but cannot find them.

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 7:41 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Heat shrink would require that I label them before crimping the plug on
> the end, and I am not that organized.
>
>
>
> Unless the shrink ratio is such that you can slip the label over the
> plug.  Even so, I am often labeling cables that are already plugged in.
> And if the objective is to label the cables outdoors in the middle of the
> cable somewhere, I don’t see how you use tubing.  At that point I’d go with
> colored electrical tape or those ziptie tags that you write on with a
> Sharpie.
>
>
>
> I have some enclosures with a chart taped inside the door with stuff like
> AP1 north – 1 blue, AP2 east – 2 blue, 11 GHz backhaul – 1 orange.  The
> cables have RHINO flexible nylon labels inside the enclosure, but outdoors
> just the tape we used to label the cables while pulling them.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Matt
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2020 9:31 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UV Resistant Label Machine
>
>
>
> I use the heat shrink stock for the rhinos. They are UV listed.
>
>
>
> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/ind-heat-shrink-tube-1-4-in
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>Choose from 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 3/4" and 1" label widths
>
>
>
> What size do you need for outdoor shielded cat-5?
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] UV Resistant Label Machine

[Jason Wilson]

I use the heat shrink stock for the rhinos. They are UV listed.

http://www.dymo.com/en-US/ind-heat-shrink-tube-1-4-in

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:11 PM Lincs_Chel  wrote:

> Hi;
>
> I have found the same issue.  The Dymo Rhino labels (vinyl series),
> don't stay as long as the Brother TZ-Ez (flexible) series.  What I tend
> to do now is to place the labels at multiple points on the cables that
> is exposed to the sun.  I use labels from both manufacturers on the same
> cable.
>
> Masking tape and a Sharpie holds up well.  So we label with this during
> installation and use the electronic labels (Brother and Dymo Rhino) for
> pretty.
>
> Really disappointed with the Rhino series however.  They really fade and
> sometimes they tend to peel (doesn't stay wrapped securely around the
> cable).  The writings almost entirely not legible.  For indoor use they
> do a better job.
>
> Note, I have only used the Black on White labels.  Not sure how the
> other colours will stay legible for the extended periods of time exposed
> to the outdoor elements.
>
> Looks like we now have to plan to do a regular maintenance exercise to
> re-label the cables every couple years (or 18-months or so).
>
> If anyone finds or has suggestion for a good UV rated label system
> (either with Brother / Dymo) would really be great.
>
> LH
>
>
> On 17/02/2020 12:19 PM, Matt wrote:
> > We use cheap DYMO label machines to label cat-5 tower runs etc.
> > Within 6 months you cannot read the labels used outdoors but you
> > usually do not need too.  Does anyone know of outdoor UV resistant
> > cartridges for them or for any label machine?
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Billing Platform

[Jason Wilson]

If anyone is running the newest release of VISP (web based) Please chime
in.  Even better if you have used Sonar.

Jason


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On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 11:19 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> No, I run Sonar. Still v1.  ;-)
>
> The web-based version of VISP was under development for a number of years,
> but as I understand, it is now publicly available. That means no more Java
> client.
>
>
>
> -
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> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
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>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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> *From: *"Daniel White" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" , "Mike
> Hammett" 
> *Sent: *Sunday, February 2, 2020 12:54:34 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Billing Platform
>
> Mike,
>
> Are you running v8?  Been curious what the feedback is on it.
>
>
> [image: photograph]
> Daniel White
> Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations
> phone: +1 (702) 470-2766
> direct: +1 (702) 470-2770
> Mike Hammett wrote on 1/31/20 17:41:
>
> https://app.visp.net/
>
>
>
> -
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> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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> *From: *"Daniel Moore" 
> 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> 
> *Sent: *Friday, January 31, 2020 4:46:26 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Billing Platform
>
> VISP is built on Java. Not JS, but Java.  Java is dated.
>
>
>
> *From: *AF   on behalf
> of Mike Hammett  
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> 
> *Date: *Friday, January 31, 2020 at 4:40 PM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Billing Platform
>
>
>
> I think your view of VISP is very dated.
>
>
>
> -
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> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
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> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Daniel Moore" 
> 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> 
> *Sent: *Friday, January 31, 2020 4:37:09 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Billing Platform
>
> You can't really compare Sonar to VISP IMO, that is not fair to either
> company.
> VISP is very old and does not do much more than billing.  If you need your
> hand held, VISP is the go to billing system.
> Sonar is new, and is probably what you want to heavily consider using.
>
> On 1/31/20, 2:58 PM, "AF on behalf of Matt"  behalf of matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
> Waking this thread up a bit since I have been told it is a priority
> for us again.  We use a in house built PHP/MySQL application right
> now.  How would Sonar compare to VISP?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:34 PM Dav

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

[Jason Wilson]

Make keyholes for handles?  If you happen to need them slide them on.
Removeable. Keep 1 set in the go bag.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone has strong opinions about handles on
> rackmount devices.
>
> I'm in the process of switching the enclosure manufacturer on the
> RackInjector and in the process making some design changes that should make
> things better for both us and our customers.  I don't want to share too
> much just in case this doesn't work out - and no, this isn't a change to
> hot-swappable cards.
>
> With the design we're working on, the handles we have on the front of the
> existing enclosure aren't very easy to implement in the new design.   So
> I'm thinking about just dropping them to save the hassle/pain/shipping
> issues/cost/etc/etc/etc.
>
> My personal experience has been that although handles on enclosures are
> nice when removing a device from a rack, they are by no means necessary.
>  On occasion, I've also had handles become a liability instead of a help.
>  But on the other hand, when a device gets stuck in a rack (typically due
> to neighboring devices), it is nice to have them to add leverage when
> removing the enclosure.
>
> I'm wondering what everyone else's thoughts on this are...
>
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Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

[Jason Wilson]

Much easier.  Nothing leaching from the gunite.   6-8 week from start
to finish.


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On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:59 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Gunite is considered higher end, if maybe only because the form can be
> almost anything you can imagine. Fiberglass is more cookie-cutter, but is
> still available in a wide variety of shapes within reason. In our
> experience, the fiberglass are way easier to maintain.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 1/22/2020 1:07 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I can do the hole.  Did a gunite once before.  Not sure what holds its
> value the best for resale.
>
> *From:* Jason Wilson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2020 1:55 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools
>
> My wife is a sales manager for a Pool and Pool supply distributor.  What
> do you want to know? I am assuming you're looking for an in ground.  Gunite
> or Fiberglass?  Fiberglass is a less expensive option that gets you
> swimming faster.  Dig the hole to spec, set the plumbing and a crain sets
> in the hole.  I can find you a dealer in your area or possibly owner
> builder since I believe you have your Contractor's license.  You can email
> privately if you want to talk more.
>
> Jason
>
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> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:47 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> He would call them "aged".
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/2020 12:32 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>
>> "old" vienna sausages.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:34 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> Chuck needs a pool so he can sit by the pool and eat Vienna sausages.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:14 PM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: [BULK] Re: [AFMUG] OT Swimming Pools
>>>
>>> On 1/21/20 12:08, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>> > Is this some kind of wireless or fiber optic pool?  I think it's weird
>>> > how we can spend all day on this tangent.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's why this list is the best.
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Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

[Jason Wilson]

My wife is a sales manager for a Pool and Pool supply distributor.  What do
you want to know? I am assuming you're looking for an in ground.  Gunite or
Fiberglass?  Fiberglass is a less expensive option that gets you swimming
faster.  Dig the hole to spec, set the plumbing and a crain sets in the
hole.  I can find you a dealer in your area or possibly owner builder since
I believe you have your Contractor's license.  You can email privately if
you want to talk more.

Jason


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On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:47 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> He would call them "aged".
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 1/22/2020 12:32 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> "old" vienna sausages.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:34 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Chuck needs a pool so he can sit by the pool and eat Vienna sausages.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:14 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: [BULK] Re: [AFMUG] OT Swimming Pools
>>
>> On 1/21/20 12:08, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> > Is this some kind of wireless or fiber optic pool?  I think it's weird
>> > how we can spend all day on this tangent.
>>
>>
>> That's why this list is the best.
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Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

[Jason Wilson]

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> *From: *"Nate Burke"  
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:39:39 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues
>
> West of Chicago EPMP1000 GPS.  Lots of sites lost satellites/sync.  Now
> they are back seeing about 25% more than they ever have before.
>
> On 12/31/2019 3:35 PM, John Babineaux wrote:
>
> We are seeing it happening with PacketFlux is that true with you all?
> CMMs seem to be stable
>
> 
>
> John Babineaux
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> REACH4 Communications | Website: *www.REACH4Com.com
> <http://www.reach4com.com/>*
>
> Phone: 337-783-3436 x105 | Email: *john.babine...@reach4com.com
> *
>
> 927 N Parkerson Ave, Crowley, LA 70526
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/927+N+Parkerson+Ave,+Crowley,+LA+70526?entry=gmail&source=g>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *castarritt .
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:30 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues
>
>
>
> We had three APs on three different towers all drop sync at the same time.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:26 PM Roland Houin  wrote:
>
> We are seeing an increasing number of ap's not getting sync, now more than
> 50 in the last 25 minutes,
> We're in northern Indiana
>
> roland
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:22 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues
>
> All clear in PA.
>
> > On Dec 31, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Eric Muehleisen  wrote:
> >
> > Anyone else having GPS issues this afternoon? Nearly every tower I have
> across western Kansas is having GPS issues. Start around 3pm CST.
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Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

[Jason Wilson]

I just checked my 1000's and they are all up with sync here in California.

Af5SHE and b5c are all getting 12 satellites.

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:56 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> China just brought new sat(s) online
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:50 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> Yes, Native EPMP GPS.
>>
>> An EPMP 3000 AP lost half it's tracked satellites and has not yet
>> recovered.
>>
>> Isn't a new GPS constellation coming online sometime soon.  China,
>> Russia, someone like that.
>>
>> On 12/31/2019 3:46 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>> Doing native ePMP 1000 GPS?
>>
>>
>> I've heard from others on Facebook reporting CMM4\CMM5 losses as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
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>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
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>> *From: *"Nate Burke"  
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:39:39 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues
>>
>> West of Chicago EPMP1000 GPS.  Lots of sites lost satellites/sync.  Now
>> they are back seeing about 25% more than they ever have before.
>>
>> On 12/31/2019 3:35 PM, John Babineaux wrote:
>>
>> We are seeing it happening with PacketFlux is that true with you all?
>> CMMs seem to be stable
>>
>> 
>>
>> John Babineaux
>>
>> *System Administrator*
>>
>> REACH4 Communications | Website: *www.REACH4Com.com
>> *
>>
>> Phone: 337-783-3436 x105 | Email: *john.babine...@reach4com.com
>> *
>>
>> 927 N Parkerson Ave, Crowley, LA 70526
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *castarritt .
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:30 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues
>>
>>
>>
>> We had three APs on three different towers all drop sync at the same time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:26 PM Roland Houin  wrote:
>>
>> We are seeing an increasing number of ap's not getting sync, now more than
>> 50 in the last 25 minutes,
>> We're in northern Indiana
>>
>> roland
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:22 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues
>>
>> All clear in PA.
>>
>> > On Dec 31, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Eric Muehleisen 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Anyone else having GPS issues this afternoon? Nearly every tower I have
>> across western Kansas is having GPS issues. Start around 3pm CST.
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Re: [AFMUG] Vertical rack NEMA

[Jason Wilson]

https://www.streakwave.com/mobile/Itemdesc.asp?ic=HW2%2DN20%2DRS1V

2u slant?


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 4:16 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> If you only use shallow devices, you can rack mount normally in a 10 inch
> deep box, like a 24x32x10 Hoffman enclosure, and still have enough room for
> the cables to bend comfortably.  APC shelves are no problem, I think the
> deepest piece of electronics I’ve gotten into them is a Mikrotik
> RB1100AHx4.  I think I cheated and used 1/4 inch spacers.  This was with a
> standard wallmount patch panel bracket from someplace like StarTech.  We
> put rackmount equipment in the top of the box and DIN rail stuff in the
> bottom.  This is using a backplate.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2019 2:58 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vertical rack NEMA
>
>
>
> rackit macke hinged wall mounts. I have put a piano hinge on, theres just
> to way to comfortable rack mount. im mounting sideways now in our 30x30x10,
> i hate them
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:55 PM  wrote:
>
> How about the rack hinges out to allow more access.  That would be nice.
> Or if it slid out on rails.
>
>
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2019 1:51 PM
>
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Vertical rack NEMA
>
>
>
> I wouldn't mind a box like the one in this picture, but I'd feel a lot
> better about it if the top was removable for access.  I dare anybody to put
> three devices in that rack and try to reach cables on the rear one.
>
> So anybody have something like that, but with a removable top?
>
>
>
> [image: Altelix 24x24x12 19" Wide 4U Vertical Rack Steel Weatherproof NEMA
> Enclosure with Dual Cooling Fans, 120 VAC Outlets and Power Cord]
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Re: [AFMUG] Apple vs Android demographics

[Jason Wilson]

Buy a pixel and all that bloatware will disappear.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 8:38 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Could Samsung please get rid of Bixby?  Like Microsoft’s Clippy but less
> cute and more annoying.  I would pay extra to NOT have Bixby.  Doesn’t help
> there’s a dedicated button that’s easy to accidentally press and summon
> Bixby, kind of like Beetlejuice.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2019 8:52 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Apple vs Android demographics
>
>
>
> Old stories and falsehoods.
>
> If you get pure Android (lots of choices; just none of them are
> "Samsung").
>
> Updates are regular and seamless, backup/restore is also easy; almost
> transparent.
>
> Pure Android is the same everywhere.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 12/14/2019 5:31 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
> 2 x macs
>
> 2 x iphone
>
> 2 x iPads.
>
>
>
> Android is too segmented. An app works on one device but not another. One
> vendor provides software updates, another decides they are going to stop
> updating.
>
>
>
> Samsung and many others throw so much crap on Android it’s not even like
> Android.
>
>
>
> Backup and restore is not seamless on Android. On iPhone a backup back
> everything, not so on android.
>
>
>
> Different vendors of android have different ways to get into programs and
> settings. Apple it’s always the same.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> Our house is 100% Android. I have a Chromebook, which runs android apps in
> a VM, and it makes a pretty decent tablet when I convert it to tablet mode.
> I do have a 9-year-old ipod, but I don't think that counts; don't really
> use it anyway. Most of my friends have Android, and very few have Samsungs;
> which are Android by name, but not by function.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 12/14/2019 5:03 PM, Jason Wilson wrote:
>
> Between the wife and I we have 7 devices. Of which we each have an android
> and iOS phone. She has an android tablet, I have an iPad and an Amazon Fire
> tablet.  Based on what I see my clients have iOS is well in the lead. Those
> that do have android have Samsung’s.  Tablets are 90% iOS.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:44 PM Chuck Macenski  wrote:
>
> Ditto
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 5:59 PM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> That's surprising, I wouldn't have guessed that IOS was more popular than
> Android in the US. I would've guessed it was closer to 60/40 the other way.
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 3:43 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> OK. I had the worldwide ratio pretty close, but I had no clue about the
> US. In the US it's pretty much 60:40 in favor of IOS. In the rest of the
> world it's all over the map. India is 90:10 in favor of Android, while
> Canada looks close to 50:50.
>
> Details here:   https://deviceatlas.com/blog/android-v-ios-market-share
>
> Still don't know about the demographics.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 12/14/2019 12:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the relative market share of iPhones/iPads vs Android
> devices?  And what are the demographics behind who tends to have each type?
>
>
>
> My expectation was that Android probably outsells Apple by at least 2:1
> and maybe 3:1.  Also that the demographics would favor more Apple devices
> in cities and suburbs, and Android in small towns and rural areas.
> Partially because of the stereotype of an Apple customer, partially because
> of price, but also just the fact that there are no Apple stores in rural
> areas.
>
>
>
> My area is mostly rural, yet when I see what devices have DHCP leases on
> customer routers, most of the time there are all these iPhones and iPads.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to figure out the demographics, but the only thing I’ve noticed
> is that from the DHCP hostnames like Marys-Iphone and Susans-iPad, a lot of
> them tend to be female.  Still, the whole household tends to have the same
> brand of phone.  I assume one of the parents goes to the AT&T or Verizon
> store and gets 5 phones and a family share plan and everybody gets the same
> brand of phone.
>
>
>
> Does Apple really have bigger market share than Samsung and all the other
> Android phone makers put together?  Or am I wrong and rural areas actually
> tend to be Apple country?
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Apple vs Android demographics

[Jason Wilson]

Between the wife and I we have 7 devices. Of which we each have an android
and iOS phone. She has an android tablet, I have an iPad and an Amazon Fire
tablet.  Based on what I see my clients have iOS is well in the lead. Those
that do have android have Samsung’s.  Tablets are 90% iOS.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:44 PM Chuck Macenski  wrote:

> Ditto
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 5:59 PM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> That's surprising, I wouldn't have guessed that IOS was more popular than
>> Android in the US. I would've guessed it was closer to 60/40 the other way.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 3:43 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> OK. I had the worldwide ratio pretty close, but I had no clue about the
>>> US. In the US it's pretty much 60:40 in favor of IOS. In the rest of the
>>> world it's all over the map. India is 90:10 in favor of Android, while
>>> Canada looks close to 50:50.
>>>
>>> Details here:   https://deviceatlas.com/blog/android-v-ios-market-share
>>>
>>> Still don't know about the demographics.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/14/2019 12:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know the relative market share of iPhones/iPads vs Android
>>> devices?  And what are the demographics behind who tends to have each type?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My expectation was that Android probably outsells Apple by at least 2:1
>>> and maybe 3:1.  Also that the demographics would favor more Apple devices
>>> in cities and suburbs, and Android in small towns and rural areas.
>>> Partially because of the stereotype of an Apple customer, partially because
>>> of price, but also just the fact that there are no Apple stores in rural
>>> areas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My area is mostly rural, yet when I see what devices have DHCP leases on
>>> customer routers, most of the time there are all these iPhones and iPads.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m trying to figure out the demographics, but the only thing I’ve
>>> noticed is that from the DHCP hostnames like Marys-Iphone and Susans-iPad,
>>> a lot of them tend to be female.  Still, the whole household tends to have
>>> the same brand of phone.  I assume one of the parents goes to the AT&T or
>>> Verizon store and gets 5 phones and a family share plan and everybody gets
>>> the same brand of phone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does Apple really have bigger market share than Samsung and all the
>>> other Android phone makers put together?  Or am I wrong and rural areas
>>> actually tend to be Apple country?
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Re: [AFMUG] Lineman Training

[Jason Wilson]

I would start with the local IBEW union hall.

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:43 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Any recommendations on training sessions to send linemen to to both help
> them be safe as well as have as a paper if anything ever happens?
>
> Things like safe bucket / ladder use, checking fiber lines for energizing
> before servicing, pole safety, etc?
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Re: [AFMUG] Falling Foliage

[Jason Wilson]

I can not confirm or deny that I may or may not have used that method
before.



On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:47 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> lol, thats awesome
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 4:05 PM Robert Andrews 
> wrote:
>
>> Talked to a customer that has a tree that likes to grow into the line of
>> sight.   He clears it once or twice a year.   Didn't ever ask him how he
>> cleared it, it's about 50-60 feet up.   Today he volunteered his
>> solution while we were talking about his service.
>>
>> "I shotgun it.   Use bird shot, does a great job.  10 minutes including
>> the walk down to the tree and back"   "Neighbors complain, but it's only
>> once or twice a year."...
>>
>> Well ok then...
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Jason Wilson]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p

All the ports you need

With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four USB 3.0
ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need.
Transform your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the
Surface Connect cable.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM  wrote:

> Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.
> Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
> Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM  wrote:
>
>> Be nice if they had a docking adapter.
>>
>> *From:* Dennis Burgess via AF
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Dennis Burgess
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>
>>
>> Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified TrainerMTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
>> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>>
>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>>
>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>
>> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>
>>
>>
>> My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She
>> told me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I
>> actually left it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch
>> that same train and found it.)But I digress.
>>
>>
>>
>> She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro
>> manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way
>> and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She
>> makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as
>> well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with
>> my UK son-in-law as he is like this too.
>>
>>
>>
>> But again, I digress.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully
>> one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an
>> HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Borg, what are my options?
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Re: [AFMUG] Pole Mount Outdoor Enclosure

[Jason Wilson]

ISP supplies and I assume others have full height rackmount retrofit for
the 24x24x16


On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:37 PM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> I have one I'll let go pretty cheap. We had them made back in the day. If
> interested I'll send you a pic. I think they are 3'x2'x24' I think.
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt  wrote:
>
>> Looking for a pole mount outdoor enclosure that will hold a couple
>> packetflux 1u rackinjectors, mikrotik 1u switch and few more things.
>> Anyone know of anything?
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Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

[Jason Wilson]

Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:27 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No, it is a gas tube version.  They both have their place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is 800-CAT6-APC a replacement for 800-GIGE-APC-HV ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 1:38 PM  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Eric Muehleisen
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2019 11:32 AM
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 800-CAT6-APC will cover all my bases and provide gig, if the AP
>>>>>> supports it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 12:24 PM  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CAT6 products are recommended for all Cambium products.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Eric Muehleisen
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2019 11:01 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm looking for a spreadsheet or chart to show compatibility options
>>>>>>> for rackmount SS's. Can't seem to find anything and I'm unclear which 
>>>>>>> ones
>>>>>>> I need. I'd like to remove all my 600ss and streamline to something 
>>>>>>> modular
>>>>>>> and rack mountable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm looking for SS's for...
>>>>>>> - Cambium 450M
>>>>>>> - Cambium 450
>>>>>>> - Cambium ePMP 2000
>>>>>>> - Cambium FSK 100
>>>>>>> - Cambium PMP 320
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone help me mach up part numbers please?
>>>>>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Where is the outrage over package delivery neutrality?!?

[Jason Wilson]

How long till US Mail figures out it’s cheaper to sent their mail over
Amazon’s transport?

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 2:33 PM  wrote:

> Fedex has been in the transport only business.
>
> Amazon has been in the content only business.
>
> This is like Netflix building their own fiber network for their own
> content
> and only their own content and not allowing it to be delivered over you or
> Comcast or ...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: fiber...@mail.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:00 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Where is the outrage over package delivery
> neutrality?!?
>
> That's nice and all, but what's that got anything to do with net
> neutrality?
>
>
> Jared
>
>
>
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2019
> From: "Tim Withrow via AF" 
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Cc: "Tim Withrow" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Where is the outrage over package delivery
> neutrality?!?
>
> Free market economy. All the shippers are discovering Amazon is going to
> beat them at their own game. I think it's too late in the game now for the
> shippers to pull away and still have a positive outcome on their balance
> sheet.
>
>
> 
> On Saturday, June 8, 2019 fiberrun  wrote:
>
> I don't get it; what am I supposed to be upset about?
>
> I see no connection to net neutrality or even first mile access.
>
>
> Jared
>
>
>
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2019
> From: "Sean Heskett" mailto:af...@zirkel.us]>
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> mailto:memb...@wispa.org]>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Where is the outrage over package delivery neutrality?!?
>
> So if FedEx was and ISP and Amazon was an “edge provider” wouldn’t all the
> neutrality freaks be up in arms with pitchforks over this??
>
> Oh wait probably not since this is just free market capitalism ;-)
>
>
>
> https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/06/07/tech/fedex-amazon/index.html[https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/06/07/tech/fedex-amazon/index.html]
> -Sean
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Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

[Jason Wilson]

That I don’t know.

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 9:42 AM  wrote:

> Where were they hosted?
>
> *From:* Jason Wilson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2019 10:38 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org
>
> Trina posted an hour ago
>
> Late last week, an unauthorized third-party caused a network outage at our
> web host, which has brought our website and related software services to a
> halt since that time. The scale of that breach was systemwide.
> Consequently, the host is working with federal authorities and has shut
> down its servers to properly rectify the outage, as well as to assure the
> operational integrity of all systems it serves before going live again.
> Though the breach was beyond the control of WISPA and its software
> provider, we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you and
> will provide updates as more information becomes available. Of course, if
> you have any business that needs urgent attention, please contact WISPA
> staff directly 407-664-1644 or adm...@wispa.org
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 9:37 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>
>> On 5/29/19 08:29, Daniel White wrote:
>> > The hosting facility is having issues with viruses or something is what
>> > I thought I saw on Facebook
>>
>>
>> Say what? Is this the wild west 90's of hosting?
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Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

[Jason Wilson]

Trina posted an hour ago

Late last week, an unauthorized third-party caused a network outage at our
web host, which has brought our website and related software services to a
halt since that time. The scale of that breach was systemwide.
Consequently, the host is working with federal authorities and has shut
down its servers to properly rectify the outage, as well as to assure the
operational integrity of all systems it serves before going live again.
Though the breach was beyond the control of WISPA and its software
provider, we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you and
will provide updates as more information becomes available. Of course, if
you have any business that needs urgent attention, please contact WISPA
staff directly 407-664-1644 or adm...@wispa.org


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 9:37 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 5/29/19 08:29, Daniel White wrote:
> > The hosting facility is having issues with viruses or something is what
> > I thought I saw on Facebook
>
>
> Say what? Is this the wild west 90's of hosting?
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Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

[Jason Wilson]

I thought I had read it was hacked but cannot but my hands were on it

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 9:19 PM Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> As you may know, the WISPA website is down. We apologize for any
> inconvenience this may have caused you, and ask for your patience as these
> matters get resolved. Thanks, and have a happy and safe Memorial Day
> weekend!
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/117583251633733/posts/2447065998685435?s=1042414640&sfns=xmwa2
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> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 9:16 PM Robert  wrote:
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>> Any info why wispa.org is down?
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Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

[Jason Wilson]

As you may know, the WISPA website is down. We apologize for any
inconvenience this may have caused you, and ask for your patience as these
matters get resolved. Thanks, and have a happy and safe Memorial Day
weekend!

https://www.facebook.com/117583251633733/posts/2447065998685435?s=1042414640&sfns=xmwa2

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 9:16 PM Robert  wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] E400 APs on Drop ceilings

[Jason Wilson]

I’ll be in my office in less than an hour. I’ll see what I have

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:29 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> It looks like they're not on the back of the one's that I have.
>
> On 4/30/2019 11:21 AM, Jason Wilson wrote:
>
> Actually those clips are built in to the back of the e400
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> Is there a part number for the "Blue Bracket"?  I can't seem to find it.
>>
>> On 4/29/2019 11:26 PM, Jason Wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:16 PM Jason Wilson <
>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lewis is correct. The blue bracket will clip on the T frames.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:45 PM Lewis Bergman <
>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am pretty sure the standard blue bracket had clips for the T channel.
>>>> I could be wrong I think they are kind of flimsy though.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 5:55 PM Nate Burke < 
>>>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm replacing some old Ruckus AP's with E400's, the Ruckus APs had a
>>>>> bracket that clipped onto the T-channel of the Drop ceiling.  Does
>>>>> something similar exist for the E400's?   A quick Google search turned
>>>>> up people asking for it on the Cambium forums, but no products.
>>>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] E400 APs on Drop ceilings

[Jason Wilson]

Lewis is correct. The blue bracket will clip on the T frames.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:45 PM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> I am pretty sure the standard blue bracket had clips for the T channel. I
> could be wrong I think they are kind of flimsy though.
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 5:55 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I'm replacing some old Ruckus AP's with E400's, the Ruckus APs had a
>> bracket that clipped onto the T-channel of the Drop ceiling.  Does
>> something similar exist for the E400's?   A quick Google search turned
>> up people asking for it on the Cambium forums, but no products.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Kvm switch

[Jason Wilson]

Smart KVM Switch, 8 Port Manual Key Press dvr Switch VGA USB Remote
Extension Switcher Console with 8pc Original Cable
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBGK87K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6WkWCb52BQXXR

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:21 AM CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:

>
> Have a location with about 8 different devices.  Most are now usb mouse /
> keyboard
>
> What's best kvm type switch now?
>
> Mine at home is all ps/2
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Winds did a number on this AirFiber..

[Jason Wilson]

No beer?

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 8:01 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> None of this gear is mine...I was working on Cambium ptp link on other
> side of roof when I heard the cover fly off...but to give you a warm fuzzy
> how about this?
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 5:02 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Gusts hit 65 mph..
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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Fair warning

[Jason Wilson]

I like my spam fried with a sunny side up egg.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 5:03 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

>
> How much spam would you like?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OVKXIfrGJE
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/26/2019 3:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I think you grandfathered in many years ago.
> We will reserve an extra helping for you.
>
> *From:* Chuck Macenski
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2019 4:52 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Fair warning
>
> Hey! I didn't see these terms when I signed up. What if I want to get more
> spam?
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:44 PM  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:42 PM
>> *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fair warning
>>
>> We will try this again:
>> [image: image]
>>
>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:13 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fair warning
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mail Chimp received a direct complaint today from one of our list
>> subscribers.
>> Not too long after the complaint, we had a new subscriber join the list.
>> I asked him if, during the subscription process, anything was said about
>> me sending out spam now and then.
>>
>> He said he received the following from the list serv:
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Not sure what more I can do.  I went to Mail Chimp several years ago so
>> that you can have the option of getting my spam or not but staying on the
>> list.  This particular person that complained to me today and (presumably
>> to Mail Chimp) prefers we spam the list instead.
>>
>> I think this is the first complaint that Mail Chimp has ever received
>> about me.
>>
>> I guess if they boot me, I will have to spam the list...
>>
>> *From:* Albert J Rachide
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2019 1:59 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fair warning
>>
>> Keep up the good work!
>>
>> Al Rachide
>> Pink Hill, NC
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:07 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> As all of the old timers know, I advertise my products here.  Forrest is
>>> free to do so as well.  My dealers too.   And we open it up on Friday
>>> mornings to everyone as a swap meet.  When I send things there days I use
>>> mailchimp for a variety of reasons.  Plus it allows you to opt out of my
>>> spam and still be on this list for all the rest of the subject matter.  It
>>> appears that some are unaware.  I will have to double check the list
>>> subscription process to make sure this is made clear to new subs here.
>>> Sorry to those that think I am mining the list for spam purposes.  It is
>>> worse than that actually as I own the domain and have always used it and
>>> the AF shows to market my junk.  I guess I need to make it more clear when
>>> subscribing.
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] modbus to tcp/ip

[Jason Wilson]

http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-interface-for-morningstar-serial/


On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:38 PM Robert  wrote:

> We monitor our MorningStar Charge controllers with a modbus C library
> and programs we modified ourselves...
>
> Robert
>
> On 3/20/19 3:30 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
> > Fellas
> >
> > What would be the recommended gear for monitoring via snmp/web a Modbus
> > device?
> >
> > *GinoVillarini
> > *Founder/President
> > @gvillarini
> > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
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Re: [AFMUG] Remote work

[Jason Wilson]

The good thing going for you is you can do night service in the states. A
lot of the consultants are super busy. Good luck to you. I’ll keep you in
mind when I need things that are smarter than I done.

J

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:25 PM Timothy Steele 
wrote:

> Looking for Remote work so I can stay in the Philippines with my wife for
> 2 years don't need to make much as it's super cheap there..
>
> If anyone has any ideas of what they would need done Remote and what you
> would be willing to pay please let me know
>
>
> Sense no one seems to want a remote WISP worker I'm thinking of starting
> my own Remote service
>
> Any ideas welcome
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Interference with 911 repeaters

[Jason Wilson]

I share 2 sites with the local sheriff, one of those also has 2 fire
reperters all in the 159mhz range. I have had no issues with either their
erp is around 100watts. Separation is 75 feet in one and 200 feet and 30
feet on another tower.

I also share a site with national  weather service their transmitter is at
162mhz their erp is in the 500watt range. Separation on them is 30 feet. No
issues.

On both sites my Ethernet is shielded and not run near their feedlines.

Jason


On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 7:20 PM Daniel White  wrote:

> Craig,
>
> While I've not experienced this on a network I was responsible for, I have
> helped a few times while at various manufacturers troubleshoot issues like
> this.
>
> Some tips in addition to what Chuck has written:
>
> - First make sure to localize which radio it is.  Some radios are
> particularly nasty in these cases.  Go to the site and turn off everything,
> then turn on each radio individually.  You may find it is a common radio at
> every site, and replacing those radios with another brand/type might be
> easier.
>
> - Bad switching power supplies can sometimes be the culprit.  An easy
> change is to replace the power supply/PoE injector.. ideally with a
> different model (instead of the vendor supplied one try maybe a McCown Tech
> injector).  This can be the cause of the radio or cable affecting the
> repeater.
>
> - If the interference is adjacent or a harmonic notch filters or band
> filters on the 911 repeater may be an easy solution
>
> - Double shield cable works well if the noise is from the cable and not
> the radio.  Shireen DC-2022 or Superior Essex BBDGE would be best bets...
> and these are also easy to ground with GKCAT5 from SitePro (or something
> equivalent): https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=14.
> For best effect, use every 50ft of cable run and wrap around the outside
> double shield.
>
> While these issues suck to troubleshoot... narrowing it down to the radio
> causing issues is key.
>
> Good luck Craig (hope your doing well BTW!)
>
> 
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> ch...@wbmfg.com wrote on 2/28/19 15:20:
>
> I would first attempt to discover if it is the CAT5 or the radio itself.
> Ask the 911 guys if they have a spectrum analyzer they can lend you to
> puzzle this out.
> Shielded CAT5 helps.
> Putting in coils at the ends helps.
> Ferrite chokes help.
> Some run it in liquidtight or full metal conduit.
> You can put fiber media converters on the ends of a CAT5 and perhaps fix
> it.
>
> But every single ethernet device, every switch, hub, router, radio does
> radiate noise.  Just because they passed FCC
> certification tests does not mean they are noise free.  The 911 repeater
> probably has a high gain omni and probably a super low noise pre amplifier
> too.  So it will naturally be more sensitive to noise than a normal 2 way
> repeater.
>
> Isolating it to a particular radio or cable is a good place to start.
>
> -Original Message- From: Craig House
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 1:45 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Interference with 911 repeaters
>
>
>
> I think I’ve posted this question on here before but I want to try again.
> We have multiple water towers where we have various types of equipment a
> mix of Mimosa cambium and ubiquity products. It seems that on many of these
> water towers our cat five power over ethernet creates RF interference for
> the repeater. In one instance we were able to install magnets that clamped
> around the cable which did help enough they stopped complaining. In other
> cases we’ve attempted to move our equipment from the top of the water tower
> down to the catwalk to create some distance and installed the ferrite beads
> with little success at all. I’m tired of playing with ideas that might or
> might not work. Can someone give me advice that will solve this problem
> once and for all. I understand that grounding the CAT5 might help I’ve also
> been told that putting our wires inside of conduit might help or shortening
> the wires might help. I don’t want anymore might help I would like someone
> who has actually done this to be able to give me some advice
>
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Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

[Jason Wilson]

Here is an example. 

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=965395

948mhz 56dbm eirp 

This link is digital sub 3mbps. If you have an old school radio scanner or spec 
an tune 940-960mhz and listen for analog stl 


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> On Feb 12, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> I wonder how much bandwidth an STL really needs.  
> 
> We can do 11ghz in two hops, but the single hop path is NLOS.  
> 
> 
>> On 2/12/2019 8:57 PM, Daniel White wrote:
>> Adam,
>> 
>> There isn't a lot of spectrum on those channels, so your only going to get 
>> 3Mbps or something like that.
>> 
>> I'd probably put up something like an AF-11 instead if your on a budget.
>> 
>> Jeff Holdenrid over at DoubleRadius has done a lot of work with both radio 
>> and TV STL links.  I did a few projects with him at SAF, and he regularly 
>> speaks at NAB.  
>> 
>> 
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>> 
>> 
>> Adam Moffett wrote on 2/12/19 18:13:
>>> I'm trying to help out a local radio station.  I've never dealt with this 
>>> before, but aren't there licensed frequencies that a radio station can use 
>>> for an STL connection? 
>>> 
>>> What type of frequency is that?  Is it terribly expensive? 
>>> 
>>> The particular radio station I'm trying to help out does not have clear LOS 
>>> from the station to the tower, so I'm hoping it's VHF or some such. 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Packetflux

[Jason Wilson]

That was the answer I was looking for. I placed an order yesterday. 


Thank you Forrest. 

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> On Feb 6, 2019, at 3:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since we don't have any distributors, direct is probably your best bet :)
> 
> -forrest
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:57 PM  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Paging Forrest. Best way to order through the website or distribution?
>>> 
>>> Jason Wilson
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Re: [AFMUG] Why some places don't have broadband yet

[Jason Wilson]

At&t quote me 975,000 and change to bring fiber 5 miles to a tower site. 
Needless to say I backhauled it instead. 

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> On Jan 2, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> I just got a quote for make-ready on a 2 mile stretch.
> $593,000
> 
> I guess those 8 households will remain unserved because eff that.
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

[Jason Wilson]

How does one get Calix to talk to you?  They seemed less than interested to 
talk at WISPAPalooza and no call from the lead generated at he show. 

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> On Dec 22, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Darin Steffl  wrote:
> 
> You have to buy direct from Calix.
> 
> We upped our plan prices $10 per month for new subs and now give the router 
> "free". We're slowly migrating existing customers to these new plans and 
> putting the Calix in their home. We're about 60% complete with the process. 
> It dramatically reduces the number of tech support calls related to wifi 
> issues. Huge time saver, money maker, and keeping customers happy and churn 
> low. 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 8:56 PM Ken Hohhof > The other piece of information that wasn’t apparent to me on casual 
>> inspection is there’s a minimum sub count if you want to use their Cloud 
>> features.  My take is you need to come at it from the perspective that all 
>> your subs are going to get the Calix router, rather than viewing it as an 
>> optional upsell.  At least if your WISP is relatively small.  If you have 
>> 5000+ subs, that would be different.  You could go through a transition with 
>> existing customers, but eventually it would be like a cable modem, everyone 
>> gets one.  Either you throw it in for free, or charge a non optional modem 
>> rental fee.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 7:23 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I buy direct. I think that is how they do it with everyone.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 6:20 PM, David Coudron  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Where do you purchase the Calix equipment from?   Our typical sources don’t 
>> seem to carry them (Streakwave, Winncom, ISPSupplies, Linktechs, etc.   Are 
>> you purchasing direct from Calix?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> David Coudron
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 5:34 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Calix is the only good method today for routers and a mesh solution that can 
>> be managed by the ISP. Powerline adapters suck and we don't use them 
>> anymore. WiFi extenders are just as bad and we tell customers to throw them 
>> in the garbage. They cause more issues than they fix.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have 850+ Calix GigaCenters in the field and are deploying more of the 
>> Mesh units. Everything is very easy to provision and we have full visibility 
>> into the home network. Pricing is pretty good and we get to make money on it 
>> instead of the customer just spending money on their own solution. Sell it 
>> to the customer that we will warranty for the life of their service with us.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:31 PM Jason McKemie 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The GigaSpire Max & Blast look intriguing.  Not sure on pricing as of yet 
>> though.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:06 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> Calix 844 has a mesh extender that supposedly has touchless provisioning.  I 
>> have a mesh box at home to play with but still have not taken it out of the 
>> box. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: David Coudron
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 4:01 PM
>> 
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have been running into more and more situations where customers either 
>> have homes that are too large to effectively cover with a good router, or 
>> have so many devices at the far end of the house from where their router has 
>> to be positioned that we are looking for good options to provide better 
>> whole house coverage.   We have worked with Powerline extenders, but 
>> consider them to be too inconsistent for wide spread use, and have worked 
>> with some wireless extenders.   The wireless extenders have a pretty big 
>> impact on wireless speed that we aren’t excited about them as a go forward 
>> solution.   We also can’t log into the powerline or wireless extenders 
>> without s

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Firmware on ReadyNet Routers?

[Jason Wilson]

I mentioned it to the cnPilot team last year at WISPApalooza.  All that they 
need to do is make cnMastro to recognize the serial numbers in the ReadyNet 
Routers.  They mentioned it would be a good elevate platform.  Last I have 
heard about it. 
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> On Jul 31, 2018, at 10:13 AM, Tim Cailloux  wrote:
> 
> Well, darn.  That was going to be the whole point.  I guess the family is 
> getting routers for Christmas because I don't want to trash them, but I want 
> to manage everything in cnMaestro.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 1:08 PM Jason Wilson  <mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com>> wrote:
> Yes it works, I’ve tried it. but cannot be managed by cnMastro. 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:04 AM Tim Cailloux  <mailto:t...@southern-internet.com>> wrote:
> The cnPilot r201 looks to be the same hardware as the ReadyNet AC1200M.  Has 
> anyone tried flashing the Cambium cnPilot firmware onto the ReadyNet hardware?
> 
> We have some ReadyNet gear from a pilot/trial, and the Cambium way seems to 
> just be a better option for us.
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Firmware on ReadyNet Routers?

[Jason Wilson]

Yes it works, I’ve tried it. but cannot be managed by cnMastro.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:04 AM Tim Cailloux 
wrote:

> The cnPilot r201 looks to be the same hardware as the ReadyNet AC1200M.
> Has anyone tried flashing the Cambium cnPilot firmware onto the ReadyNet
> hardware?
>
> We have some ReadyNet gear from a pilot/trial, and the Cambium way seems
> to just be a better option for us.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Need Source for the flex conduit sat installers use

[Jason Wilson]

ENT or "Smurf tube"

(Common: 3/4-in; Actual: .75-In) Non-Metallic Ent 10-ft Conduit
https://www.lowes.com/pd/(Common:-3/4-in%3B-Actual:-.75-In)-Non-Metallic-Ent-10-ft-Conduit/3129595

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:46 AM Timothy Steele 
wrote:

> Sat installers use what looks like a very thick NON-Split Loom conduit
>
> does anyone have a source where I can buy that stuff?
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Re: [AFMUG] How to count amplifiers in link budget

[Jason Wilson]

I read that as the 5w was with antenna. Chuck is correct. 7dbm antenna and
you are good to go.

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:33 AM Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> 44dbm is your target. You are at 37dbm now.  8dbm amplifier should take
> care of any cable loss.
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:08 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> I'm looking at an IoT application where we're allowed 30W ERP.  The
>> transmitter is 5W, so even with antenna gain I have room to amplify that.
>>
>> How do you count an amplifier in your link budget?  Just add the amp's
>> tx gain and subtract connectors, or is there more to it than that?
>>
>> Strangely I've never used an amplifier.I've never had a legal
>> application for one before.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] How to count amplifiers in link budget

[Jason Wilson]

44dbm is your target. You are at 37dbm now.  8dbm amplifier should take
care of any cable loss.

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:08 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I'm looking at an IoT application where we're allowed 30W ERP.  The
> transmitter is 5W, so even with antenna gain I have room to amplify that.
>
> How do you count an amplifier in your link budget?  Just add the amp's
> tx gain and subtract connectors, or is there more to it than that?
>
> Strangely I've never used an amplifier.I've never had a legal
> application for one before.
>
> -Adam
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Re: [AFMUG] One day AnimalFarm in Mountain Home

[Jason Wilson]

That weekend is really busy for me. I am only 2 hours away from Mountain
View and would make the trip. Move it up to Sacramento and I have a
business client that has a large class room we could use.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 7:27 AM  wrote:

> Have not had much of a response.  So far none of my adult kids and their
> families can break away.  May need to plan for some other time.
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2018 8:23 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] One day AnimalFarm in Mountain Home
> So, back to the topic, is anyone else planning on coming?
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Robert  wrote:
>
>> When Fry's came up with that massive checkout queue I thought what a
>> great solution...At the top there were 30-40 people in line and 10-15
>> people checking out and the lines moved like crazy.   Seemed like they were
>> printing money until they decided to buy a 747
>>
>>
>> On 7/10/18 2:40 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>>> No longer the case.
>>>
>>> I've been to the Sunnyvale Fry's and the Campbell Fry's in the last
>>> couple of weeks. Both times there were only 4 or 5 checkers (in a row of at
>>> least 20), and there was never more than one person in front of me. If I
>>> had waited 30 seconds, I would be surprised.
>>>
>>> It's still difficult to find a sales person to ask a question.
>>>
>>> Hellooo? Anybody home?
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 7/10/2018 1:42 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>>
 Fry's sunk themselves with the 30 minute lines to check out.

 Rory

 -Original Message-
 From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:05 AM
 To: af@af.afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] One day AnimalFarm in Mountain Home

 I was afraid of that.   Amazon is a real Fry's killer...   Almost like a
 cruise missile takeout of Fry's customers...

 On 07/09/2018 01:26 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

> There are at least 4 or 5 Fry's in the general vicinity. Closest would
> be either Palo Alto (the cowboy place), or Sunnyvale (was the circuit
> board place, but now is a 1920's art deco place). The last time I was
> there, it was like a ghost town. I'm kind of wondering if they will be
> closing up shop soon? Maybe they're doing all their orders online...
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 7/9/2018 12:46 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>
>> I was guessing he was making a joke..   BTW a stop at a Fry's
>> Electronics would be a hoot if they are still any good?
>>
>> I would tentatively be a yes...
>>
>> On 07/09/2018 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>> All silicone valley to me.  Silicon too.
>>> Mountain Home Idaho is what first comes to my mind.
>>> I never know the sequence of towns down there.  San Jose, Cupertino,
>>> Mountain View, Los Gatos etc etc.
>>> South of SFO.
>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2018 1:16 PM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] One day AnimalFarm in Mountain Home
>>>
>>> BTW - It's Mountain View. Mountain Home is about 200 miles east in
>>> the Sierra foothills.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 7/9/2018 11:52 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>>
 That weekend looks good for me...10,11,12. Whatever.
 On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Let’s pick a date.
  *From:* Bill Prince
  *Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2018 12:22 PM
  *To:* af@af.afmug.com
  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] One day AnimalFarm in Mountain Home

  I'd go to that for sure. I can't tell you the number of times I
  "was going to go down there", and something else came up. Just
  down the hill from here and just a couple blocks from one of
 our
 NOCs.

  bp
  

  On 7/9/2018 11:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

>  Looks like Cameron and myself are game.  Anyone else. Bill,
>  pretty close by to you.
>  Forrest?  Aug 11th?  12th?
>  It is open 10-5.
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

[Jason Wilson]

48vdc would be really bad if that ePMP is NOT a GPS radio.


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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Except for every single Ubnt device and a majority of Mikrotiks
>
>
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> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> I promise life will be easier if you just use 48V.  :)
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to use a Powerbox Pro to power up two epmp APs.  The 5 GHz is
>>> just fine but the 2 GHz is saying current too low.  Both ports are getting
>>> 23 volts and the cables are <10 feet (from the Powerbox Pro).
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if the 2ghz requires more voltage possibly?
>>>
>>> Spec sheet does say 23 volts min but it's weird one powers (5 ghz) and
>>> the other doesn't.
>>>
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