Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Josh Luthman]

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Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:37 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> theyre down to 41.65 a month now, what an odd number
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:30 AM Darin Steffl 
> wrote:
>
>> If TeamViewer would charge a more reasonable rate, we would probably pay
>> for it but it's way too high for how little we use it. I use it maybe 5
>> times a month.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 10:38 AM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think theyre getting pretty strict, I dont blame them, its a rock
>>> solid product, cost aside, the best on the market. Guys like me have been
>>> abusing their good nature for years.
>>>
>>> Which of these alternates gives a good native feel and supports multiple
>>> monitors?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:27 AM Eric Muehleisen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> dwservice.net has been my goto for the past few months. It's free and
>>>> 100% web based. Works great for linux, windows and mac. Not the best for
>>>> mobile however.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:22 AM Cameron Crum 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of teamviewer and hijacking a thread, I use it about once
>>>>> every three months for something, but apparently that is enough for them 
>>>>> to
>>>>> consider me a commercial user. So I get booted about 15 seconds into every
>>>>> session and then have to wait 5 minutes to reconnect. They want me to pay
>>>>> monthly for it, but since I rarely use it, I don't see the value in it.
>>>>> I've gone to Remote PC for now. Anyone else running into this?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 6:13 PM Steve Jones 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> if you had to use an ipad for more than 30 minutes while travelling,
>>>>>> youd end up in custody. surface is the best choice, second best assuming
>>>>>> you have reliable data is any device that will support teamviewer and a
>>>>>> bluetooth mouse/rollout keyboard. then just teamviewer back to a real
>>>>>> desktop, tv does the best native desktop with all peripheral support, but
>>>>>> it starts at 700 a year once you get flagged for business use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for a while they were showing keyboards the projected off your device
>>>>>> onto the table, was that something that actually turned out?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM Mathew Howard 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can carry that touch screen around and use it, sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets
>>>>>>>> because you can unplug the keyboard?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the
>>>>>>>>> keyboard is detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can 
>>>>>>>>> transform
>>>>>>>>> into an ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s
>>>>>>>>>> not really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an 
>>>>>>>>>> ultraportable
>>>>>>>>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Steve Jones]

theyre down to 41.65 a month now, what an odd number

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:30 AM Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> If TeamViewer would charge a more reasonable rate, we would probably pay
> for it but it's way too high for how little we use it. I use it maybe 5
> times a month.
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 10:38 AM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> I think theyre getting pretty strict, I dont blame them, its a rock solid
>> product, cost aside, the best on the market. Guys like me have been abusing
>> their good nature for years.
>>
>> Which of these alternates gives a good native feel and supports multiple
>> monitors?
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:27 AM Eric Muehleisen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> dwservice.net has been my goto for the past few months. It's free and
>>> 100% web based. Works great for linux, windows and mac. Not the best for
>>> mobile however.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:22 AM Cameron Crum 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Speaking of teamviewer and hijacking a thread, I use it about once
>>>> every three months for something, but apparently that is enough for them to
>>>> consider me a commercial user. So I get booted about 15 seconds into every
>>>> session and then have to wait 5 minutes to reconnect. They want me to pay
>>>> monthly for it, but since I rarely use it, I don't see the value in it.
>>>> I've gone to Remote PC for now. Anyone else running into this?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 6:13 PM Steve Jones 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> if you had to use an ipad for more than 30 minutes while travelling,
>>>>> youd end up in custody. surface is the best choice, second best assuming
>>>>> you have reliable data is any device that will support teamviewer and a
>>>>> bluetooth mouse/rollout keyboard. then just teamviewer back to a real
>>>>> desktop, tv does the best native desktop with all peripheral support, but
>>>>> it starts at 700 a year once you get flagged for business use.
>>>>>
>>>>> for a while they were showing keyboards the projected off your device
>>>>> onto the table, was that something that actually turned out?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM Mathew Howard 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can carry that touch screen around and use it, sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because
>>>>>>> you can unplug the keyboard?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the
>>>>>>>> keyboard is detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can 
>>>>>>>> transform
>>>>>>>> into an ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s
>>>>>>>>> not really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an 
>>>>>>>>> ultraportable
>>>>>>>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s
>>>>>>>>> a big phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has 
>>>>>>>>> changed is
>>>>>>>>> the average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they 
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> a smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for 
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Darin Steffl]

If TeamViewer would charge a more reasonable rate, we would probably pay
for it but it's way too high for how little we use it. I use it maybe 5
times a month.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 10:38 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> I think theyre getting pretty strict, I dont blame them, its a rock solid
> product, cost aside, the best on the market. Guys like me have been abusing
> their good nature for years.
>
> Which of these alternates gives a good native feel and supports multiple
> monitors?
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:27 AM Eric Muehleisen 
> wrote:
>
>> dwservice.net has been my goto for the past few months. It's free and
>> 100% web based. Works great for linux, windows and mac. Not the best for
>> mobile however.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:22 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of teamviewer and hijacking a thread, I use it about once every
>>> three months for something, but apparently that is enough for them to
>>> consider me a commercial user. So I get booted about 15 seconds into every
>>> session and then have to wait 5 minutes to reconnect. They want me to pay
>>> monthly for it, but since I rarely use it, I don't see the value in it.
>>> I've gone to Remote PC for now. Anyone else running into this?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 6:13 PM Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> if you had to use an ipad for more than 30 minutes while travelling,
>>>> youd end up in custody. surface is the best choice, second best assuming
>>>> you have reliable data is any device that will support teamviewer and a
>>>> bluetooth mouse/rollout keyboard. then just teamviewer back to a real
>>>> desktop, tv does the best native desktop with all peripheral support, but
>>>> it starts at 700 a year once you get flagged for business use.
>>>>
>>>> for a while they were showing keyboards the projected off your device
>>>> onto the table, was that something that actually turned out?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM Mathew Howard 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you can carry that touch screen around and use it, sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman <
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because
>>>>>> you can unplug the keyboard?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard
>>>>>>> is detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an
>>>>>>> ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s
>>>>>>>> not really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an 
>>>>>>>> ultraportable
>>>>>>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s
>>>>>>>> a big phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed 
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> the average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they 
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> a smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual
>>>>>>>> computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
>>>>>>>> Chromebook fits.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
>>>>>>>> *T

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Steve Jones]

I think theyre getting pretty strict, I dont blame them, its a rock solid
product, cost aside, the best on the market. Guys like me have been abusing
their good nature for years.

Which of these alternates gives a good native feel and supports multiple
monitors?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:27 AM Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

> dwservice.net has been my goto for the past few months. It's free and
> 100% web based. Works great for linux, windows and mac. Not the best for
> mobile however.
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:22 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:
>
>> Speaking of teamviewer and hijacking a thread, I use it about once every
>> three months for something, but apparently that is enough for them to
>> consider me a commercial user. So I get booted about 15 seconds into every
>> session and then have to wait 5 minutes to reconnect. They want me to pay
>> monthly for it, but since I rarely use it, I don't see the value in it.
>> I've gone to Remote PC for now. Anyone else running into this?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 6:13 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> if you had to use an ipad for more than 30 minutes while travelling,
>>> youd end up in custody. surface is the best choice, second best assuming
>>> you have reliable data is any device that will support teamviewer and a
>>> bluetooth mouse/rollout keyboard. then just teamviewer back to a real
>>> desktop, tv does the best native desktop with all peripheral support, but
>>> it starts at 700 a year once you get flagged for business use.
>>>
>>> for a while they were showing keyboards the projected off your device
>>> onto the table, was that something that actually turned out?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you can carry that touch screen around and use it, sure.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because
>>>>> you can unplug the keyboard?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard
>>>>>> is detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an
>>>>>> ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not
>>>>>>> really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable
>>>>>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a
>>>>>>> big phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a
>>>>>>> smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual
>>>>>>> computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
>>>>>>> Chromebook fits.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be
>>>>>>> answered right here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Jason Wilson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Eric Muehleisen]

dwservice.net has been my goto for the past few months. It's free and 100%
web based. Works great for linux, windows and mac. Not the best for mobile
however.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:22 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:

> Speaking of teamviewer and hijacking a thread, I use it about once every
> three months for something, but apparently that is enough for them to
> consider me a commercial user. So I get booted about 15 seconds into every
> session and then have to wait 5 minutes to reconnect. They want me to pay
> monthly for it, but since I rarely use it, I don't see the value in it.
> I've gone to Remote PC for now. Anyone else running into this?
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 6:13 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> if you had to use an ipad for more than 30 minutes while travelling, youd
>> end up in custody. surface is the best choice, second best assuming you
>> have reliable data is any device that will support teamviewer and a
>> bluetooth mouse/rollout keyboard. then just teamviewer back to a real
>> desktop, tv does the best native desktop with all peripheral support, but
>> it starts at 700 a year once you get flagged for business use.
>>
>> for a while they were showing keyboards the projected off your device
>> onto the table, was that something that actually turned out?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you can carry that touch screen around and use it, sure.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because
>>>> you can unplug the keyboard?
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard
>>>>> is detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an
>>>>> ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not
>>>>>> really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable
>>>>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a
>>>>>> big phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a
>>>>>> smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual
>>>>>> computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
>>>>>> Chromebook fits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be
>>>>>> answered right here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Jason Wilson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the ports you need
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four
>>>>>> USB 3.0 ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you 
>>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Jason McKemie]

I started having the same issue. Switched to using Google Remote Desktop,
it has been doing the job so far.

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> Speaking of teamviewer and hijacking a thread, I use it about once every
> three months for something, but apparently that is enough for them to
> consider me a commercial user. So I get booted about 15 seconds into every
> session and then have to wait 5 minutes to reconnect. They want me to pay
> monthly for it, but since I rarely use it, I don't see the value in it.
> I've gone to Remote PC for now. Anyone else running into this?
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 6:13 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> if you had to use an ipad for more than 30 minutes while travelling, youd
>> end up in custody. surface is the best choice, second best assuming you
>> have reliable data is any device that will support teamviewer and a
>> bluetooth mouse/rollout keyboard. then just teamviewer back to a real
>> desktop, tv does the best native desktop with all peripheral support, but
>> it starts at 700 a year once you get flagged for business use.
>>
>> for a while they were showing keyboards the projected off your device
>> onto the table, was that something that actually turned out?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you can carry that touch screen around and use it, sure.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because
>>>> you can unplug the keyboard?
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard
>>>>> is detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an
>>>>> ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not
>>>>>> really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable
>>>>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a
>>>>>> big phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a
>>>>>> smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual
>>>>>> computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
>>>>>> Chromebook fits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be
>>>>>> answered right here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Jason Wilson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p
>>>>>>
>>>&

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Cameron Crum]

Speaking of teamviewer and hijacking a thread, I use it about once every
three months for something, but apparently that is enough for them to
consider me a commercial user. So I get booted about 15 seconds into every
session and then have to wait 5 minutes to reconnect. They want me to pay
monthly for it, but since I rarely use it, I don't see the value in it.
I've gone to Remote PC for now. Anyone else running into this?

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 6:13 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> if you had to use an ipad for more than 30 minutes while travelling, youd
> end up in custody. surface is the best choice, second best assuming you
> have reliable data is any device that will support teamviewer and a
> bluetooth mouse/rollout keyboard. then just teamviewer back to a real
> desktop, tv does the best native desktop with all peripheral support, but
> it starts at 700 a year once you get flagged for business use.
>
> for a while they were showing keyboards the projected off your device onto
> the table, was that something that actually turned out?
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> If you can carry that touch screen around and use it, sure.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because you
>>> can unplug the keyboard?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard is
>>>> detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an
>>>> ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not
>>>>> really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable
>>>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a
>>>>> big phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is 
>>>>> the
>>>>> average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a
>>>>> smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual
>>>>> computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
>>>>> Chromebook fits.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be
>>>>> answered right here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Jason Wilson
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All the ports you need
>>>>>
>>>>> With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four
>>>>> USB 3.0 ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need.
>>>>> Transform your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the
>>>>> Surface Connect cable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Steve Jones]

if you had to use an ipad for more than 30 minutes while travelling, youd
end up in custody. surface is the best choice, second best assuming you
have reliable data is any device that will support teamviewer and a
bluetooth mouse/rollout keyboard. then just teamviewer back to a real
desktop, tv does the best native desktop with all peripheral support, but
it starts at 700 a year once you get flagged for business use.

for a while they were showing keyboards the projected off your device onto
the table, was that something that actually turned out?

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> If you can carry that touch screen around and use it, sure.
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because you
>> can unplug the keyboard?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard is
>>> detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an
>>> ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>
>>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not
>>>> really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable
>>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a
>>>> big phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is the
>>>> average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a
>>>> smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual
>>>> computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
>>>> Chromebook fits.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be
>>>> answered right here.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jason Wilson
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the ports you need
>>>>
>>>> With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four USB
>>>> 3.0 ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need.
>>>> Transform your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the
>>>> Surface Connect cable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.
>>>>
>>>> Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>&

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Mathew Howard]

If you can carry that touch screen around and use it, sure.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because you
> can unplug the keyboard?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard is
>> detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an
>> ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not
>>> really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable
>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a big
>>> phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is the
>>> average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a
>>> smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual
>>> computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
>>> Chromebook fits.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be
>>> answered right here.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason Wilson
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p
>>>
>>>
>>> All the ports you need
>>>
>>> With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four USB
>>> 3.0 ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need.
>>> Transform your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the
>>> Surface Connect cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.
>>>
>>> Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Be nice if they had a docking adapter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Dennis Burgess via AF
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Cc:* Dennis Burgess
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified TrainerMTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
>>> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>>>
>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>>>
>>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>>
>>> *Office

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Josh Luthman]

What if Apple made a new product with the same electronics as an iPad but
gave it OSX.  Would it no longer be a tablet because it can't run those
apps? :)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:59 AM Robert  wrote:

> If they support the tablet apps, why not?
>
> On 9/11/19 6:40 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because you
> can unplug the keyboard?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>> Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard is
>> detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an
>> ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not
>>> really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable
>>> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a big
>>> phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is the
>>> average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a
>>> smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual
>>> computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
>>> Chromebook fits.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be
>>> answered right here.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason Wilson
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p
>>>
>>>
>>> All the ports you need
>>>
>>> With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four USB
>>> 3.0 ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need.
>>> Transform your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the
>>> Surface Connect cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.
>>>
>>> Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Be nice if they had a docking adapter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Dennis Burgess via AF
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Cc:* Dennis Burgess
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE,

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Robert]

If they support the tablet apps, why not?

On 9/11/19 6:40 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
So are desktop computers with touch screens suddenly tablets because 
you can unplug the keyboard?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:08 PM Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the
keyboard is detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can
transform into an ultraportable laptop that can transform into a
desktop...

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But
it’s not really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more
of an ultraportable laptop with a touchscreen display that can
transform into a desktop.

Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer,
it’s a big phone.  I don’t think that has really changed. 
What has changed is the average person is no longer interested
in having a computer, they want a smartphone, and/or a
handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual computer
work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
Chromebook fits.

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always
be answered right here.

Thanks.

*From:*Jason Wilson

*Sent:*Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p


All the ports you need

With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port,
four USB 3.0 ports, and an audio output, you have all the
connections you need. Transform your Surface into a desktop PC
by plugging in your Dock with the Surface Connect cable.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and
mouse.

Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.

*From:*Josh Luthman

*Sent:*Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St

<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
Suite 1337

<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
Troy, OH 45373

<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Be nice if they had a docking adapter.

*From:*Dennis Burgess via AF

*Sent:*Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

            *Cc:*Dennis Burgess

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation. 
Vs icrap .:)

*LTI-Full_175px*

*Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6
Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *

Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”

*Link Technologies, Inc*-- Mikrotik & WISP Support
Services

*Office*: 314-735-0270 Website:
http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>

Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
<http://www.towercoverage.com>

*From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Chuck
McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT iPad question

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for
this fall.  She told me I am not taking my laptop. 
Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a
train at Heathrow once, had enough time to g

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Ken Hohhof]

Oh, a Transformer?

 

I forget, was Bumblebee a Transformer?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 4:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard is 
detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an 
ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...

 

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not really an 
iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable laptop with a 
touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.

 

Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a big phone. 
 I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is the average person 
is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a smartphone, and/or a 
handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual computer work, phones and 
tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a Chromebook fits.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be answered 
right here.  

Thanks.  

 

From: Jason Wilson 

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p

 


All the ports you need


With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four USB 3.0 
ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need. Transform 
your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the Surface 
Connect cable.

 

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.  

Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
 
Suite 1337 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
 
Troy, OH 45373 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
 

 

 

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Be nice if they had a docking adapter.  

 

From: Dennis Burgess via AF 

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Dennis Burgess 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:) 

 

 



Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
Certified 

Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” 

Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 

Office: 314-735-0270  Website:  <http://www.linktechs.net/> 
http://www.linktechs.net 

Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me I 
am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a 
train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found 
it.)But I digress.

 

She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.  

 

But again, I digress.

 

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?

 

Dear Borg, what are my options?  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Mathew Howard]

Well, I would say the Surface really is a tablet, since the keyboard is
detachable. That makes it more of a tablet that can transform into an
ultraportable laptop that can transform into a desktop...

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not
> really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable
> laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.
>
>
>
> Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a big
> phone.  I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is the
> average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a
> smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual
> computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a
> Chromebook fits.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
>
>
> See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be answered
> right here.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jason Wilson
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
>
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p
>
>
> All the ports you need
>
> With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four USB
> 3.0 ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need.
> Transform your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the
> Surface Connect cable.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM  wrote:
>
> Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.
>
> Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
>
>
> Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Be nice if they had a docking adapter.
>
>
>
> *From:* Dennis Burgess via AF
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Cc:* Dennis Burgess
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
>
>
> Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:)
>
>
>
>
>
> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified TrainerMTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>
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>
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>
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>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
>
>
> My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told
> me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually
> left it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same
> train and found it.)But I digress.
>
>
>
> She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro
> manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way
> and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She
> makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as
> well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with
> my UK son-in-law as he is like this too.
>
>
>
> But again, I digress.
>
>
>
> I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully
> one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an
> HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Daniel White]

iPadOS is going to bridge that gap a lot more and should be out of beta 
in the next 30 days.


Apple doesn't have a touchscreen laptop, so in many ways I can 
appreciate them taking their time on this.  Windows with touchscreens 
sucked until they made the Surface.


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Ken Hohhof wrote on 9/9/19 11:17:


It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not 
really an iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an 
ultraportable laptop with a touchscreen display that can transform 
into a desktop.


Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a 
big phone.  I don’t think that has really changed. What has changed is 
the average person is no longer interested in having a computer, they 
want a smartphone, and/or a handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for 
actual computer work, phones and tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure 
where a Chromebook fits.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be 
answered right here.


Thanks.

*From:*Jason Wilson

*Sent:*Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p


All the ports you need

With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four 
USB 3.0 ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you 
need. Transform your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your 
Dock with the Surface Connect cable.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.

Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.

*From:*Josh Luthman

*Sent:*Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St

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Suite 1337

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Troy, OH 45373

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On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Be nice if they had a docking adapter.

*From:*Dennis Burgess via AF

*Sent:*Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Cc:*Dennis Burgess

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs
icrap .:)

*LTI-Full_175px*

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MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage,
Cambium ePMP Certified *

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*From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT iPad question

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this
fall.  She told me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too
heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a train at Heathrow
once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found
it.)But I digress.

She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that
she micro manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing. 
She likes it that way and I like it that way.  I just go where
I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure I have clean
clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as
hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up
with my UK son-in-law as he is like this too.

But again, I digress.

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size
keyboard.  Hopefully one with keys that physically move.  I
would like to be able to plug in an HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?

Dear Borg, what are my options?



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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Ken Hohhof]

It sounds like you are settling on a very good choice.  But it’s not really an 
iPad or any kind or pad or tab, it’s more of an ultraportable laptop with a 
touchscreen display that can transform into a desktop.

 

Which is fine.  I used to say an iPad isn’t a small computer, it’s a big phone. 
 I don’t think that has really changed.  What has changed is the average person 
is no longer interested in having a computer, they want a smartphone, and/or a 
handheld Netflix viewing device.  But for actual computer work, phones and 
tablets are pretty lame.  Not sure where a Chromebook fits.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 11:55 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be answered 
right here.  

Thanks.  

 

From: Jason Wilson 

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p

 


All the ports you need


With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four USB 3.0 
ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need. Transform 
your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the Surface 
Connect cable.

 

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.  

Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
 
Suite 1337 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
 
Troy, OH 45373 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
 

 

 

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Be nice if they had a docking adapter.  

 

From: Dennis Burgess via AF 

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Dennis Burgess 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:) 

 

 



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MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
Certified 

Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” 

Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 

Office: 314-735-0270  Website:  <http://www.linktechs.net/> 
http://www.linktechs.net 

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<http://www.towercoverage.com>  

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me I 
am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a 
train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found 
it.)But I digress.

 

She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.  

 

But again, I digress.

 

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?

 

Dear Borg, what are my options?  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[chuck]

See, all of the hard questions that come up in life can always be answered 
right here.  
Thanks.  

From: Jason Wilson 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p

All the ports you need
With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four USB 3.0 
ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need. Transform 
your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the Surface 
Connect cable.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM  wrote:

  Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.  
  Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

  Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM  wrote:

Be nice if they had a docking adapter.  

From: Dennis Burgess via AF 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Dennis Burgess 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:) 







Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
Certified 

Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” 

Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 

Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net 

Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com 



From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question



My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told 
me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it 
on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and 
found it.)But I digress.



She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.  



But again, I digress.



I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully 
one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?



Dear Borg, what are my options?  



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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Jason Wilson]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p

All the ports you need

With two high-definition video ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, four USB 3.0
ports, and an audio output, you have all the connections you need.
Transform your Surface into a desktop PC by plugging in your Dock with the
Surface Connect cable.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:21 AM  wrote:

> Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.
> Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
> Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM  wrote:
>
>> Be nice if they had a docking adapter.
>>
>> *From:* Dennis Burgess via AF
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Dennis Burgess
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>
>>
>> Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified TrainerMTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
>> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>>
>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>>
>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>
>> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>>
>>
>>
>> My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She
>> told me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I
>> actually left it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch
>> that same train and found it.)But I digress.
>>
>>
>>
>> She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro
>> manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way
>> and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She
>> makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as
>> well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with
>> my UK son-in-law as he is like this too.
>>
>>
>>
>> But again, I digress.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully
>> one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an
>> HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Borg, what are my options?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[chuck]

Dock to a nice large monitor, a normal sized keyboard and mouse.  
Be nice to drop it into a slot when I am at the office.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:54 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM  wrote:

  Be nice if they had a docking adapter.  

  From: Dennis Burgess via AF 
  Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Dennis Burgess 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

  Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:) 







  Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
  MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
Certified 

  Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” 

  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 

  Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net 

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  From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question



  My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me 
I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on 
a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found 
it.)But I digress.



  She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.  



  But again, I digress.



  I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?



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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Josh Luthman]

Dock to what?  It's got a keyboard and stand built in.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:34 AM  wrote:

> Be nice if they had a docking adapter.
>
> *From:* Dennis Burgess via AF
> *Sent:* Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Dennis Burgess
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
>
> Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:)
>
>
>
>
>
> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified TrainerMTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
>
>
> My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told
> me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually
> left it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same
> train and found it.)But I digress.
>
>
>
> She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro
> manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way
> and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She
> makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as
> well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with
> my UK son-in-law as he is like this too.
>
>
>
> But again, I digress.
>
>
>
> I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully
> one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an
> HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?
>
>
>
> Dear Borg, what are my options?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[chuck]

Be nice if they had a docking adapter.  

From: Dennis Burgess via AF 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Dennis Burgess 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:) 

 

 



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From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me I 
am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a 
train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found 
it.)But I digress.

 

She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.  

 

But again, I digress.

 

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?

 

Dear Borg, what are my options?  




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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Dennis Burgess via AF]

Get a surface.  Bout the same size, full workstation.  Vs icrap .:)


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From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me I 
am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a 
train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found 
it.)But I digress.

She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.

But again, I digress.

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?

Dear Borg, what are my options?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Daniel White]

As others have said, and with your known aversion to Apple products, the 
Surface Pro is exactly what you are looking for.


If you go the iPad route... you will need/want the Pro version.  Apple 
makes a keyboard that is a cover that I actually really like.  I'd 
spring for the pencil as well - for things like SolidWorks you will 
probably really enjoy it.


On the 11" vs 12.9" I go with the smaller one personally... but to each 
their own.  Go to the Apple Store in SLC and give them a try.


BTW, there is an Apple event tomorrow which may announce new hardware 
but it is unlikely on the iPad line.  They will probably be talking 
about and giving the launch date for iPadOS which lots of people have 
been waiting for (including me).


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Chuck McCown wrote on 9/8/19 12:32:
She has several iPads so if I want tech support from her I better 
stick with her brand of smokes.

*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Sunday, September 08, 2019 12:05 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

You just described a laptop.

Also, does it have to literally be an iPad, i.e. an Apple product?  Or 
just a tablet?  My son has some sort of Android tablet.  You could get 
something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6.


Or if size is the only issue, get a compact laptop. Dell XPS 13 is 
nice.  By the time you add a cover and a physical keyboard and mouse 
to a tablet, it walks and quacks like a laptop.  You wouldn’t want to 
leave it on the train though.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT iPad question

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She 
told me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I 
actually left it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go 
catch that same train and found it.)But I digress.


She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she 
micro manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes 
it that way and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go 
and I pay.  She makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets 
needed for travel as well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty 
wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as he is like this too.


But again, I digress.

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  
Hopefully one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able 
to plug in an HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?


Dear Borg, what are my options?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

The one I have has a relatively small charger.  Slightly/somewhat larger
than a typical cell phone usb charger.   Definitely not the same size as
you'd expect a laptop to use.  Mine has a IEC C8 (figure 8) power cord for
the inlet which I swapped to a EU cord when I was in europe.  This is small
enough that it usually stays with me in the personal item bag.

As far as power, I regularly use the surface when I go to workshops.  I can
usually make it through an entire day - really depends on what I'm doing
with it - and usually it's just checking emails at breaks, and taking
notes, or occasionally following along with the presenter if I have copies
of the slides.   Mine is a couple/few years old at this point and each
version has gotten better and better.  I've found a couple of online
reviews that claim around 9-10 hours of "web surfing" for the latest
version.   The Microsoft website claims even longer than this for "offline
movie watching".

To be clear, the one I have is the Surface Pro, the latest being the
surface pro 6.  This has the 12" screen.  They also have the newer surface
go, it's smaller and I was less impressed with it when I played with it a
store a while back.  These usually are on display at walmart and/or
staples.  It also looks like there is a Microsoft store at City Creek
Center if you feel like braving a trip into the city.

One disadvantage that I've found is that some ports are lacking, but I just
pack appropriate adapters/dongles which are really small.   I have a little
hard side case I keep a displayport to HDMI/VGA adapter in, and also a USB
to Ethernet + USB Hub adapter.  I also have a SD/MicroSD card reader which
has both micro USB and full sized USB connectors which is good for both to
move pictures, etc off my phone, camera, etc, to the PC.   This is also the
case I keep things like spare USB charging cables and spare SD cards in.
 (SD card + SD card reader = USB thumb drive). This generally lives in
my carryon bag instead of my personal item since I only need these once in
a great while, like when I'm doing a presentation, or want to back up
important photos, or take a file to a printer when I'm at a trade show and
run out of brochures.

One note:   I ended up buying one of the units with a smaller amount of
storage which saved me quite a bit of money.   The Surface has a built in
microSD card slot, so what I ended up doing is going and getting the
largest microSD card I could, and I use that to store large files and
similar on.   So far I haven't wished for the bigger storage.  But of
course it depends on what you're doing with it.

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:09 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> So far this sounds like it will fit my requirements.  What is the batt
> life like and do you have to have a charger or does it charge via usb?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 8, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
> I have a Microsoft surface that I bought to resolve the very problem you
> have (the too big and heavy one, not the having to downsize to make my wife
> happy one).
>
> I have a smallish "personal item" sized bag (my wife calls it my "murse")
> that I keep all of the things I might need during a flight, such as phone
> charger, usb cables, pencils, etc.  This fits nicely in there and doesn't
> take up too much space.
>
> Overall, it's a similar size to a tablet, and can be used that way as
> well.   It also runs normal windows stuff, so you can probably run
> solidworks.  You may actually find that the stylus pen you can get for the
> surface makes certain solidworks operations easier, but that most likely
> depends on what operations you are performing.
>
> On the other hand my wife just replaced her tablet with a new large
> Samsung tablet which comes with a nice keyboard as well.  Id have to look
> up the model but for everything she does (email,  support tickets, etc) it
> works fine.  But it isn't as nice to do actual work on as the surface.
>
> One last note about the surface.  The tablet version uses an optional
> magnetic snap on keyboard which can be removed.  They have also released a
> new version with a permantely attached keyboard.  Im intrigued by this but
> not completely convinced.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2019, 11:45 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She
>> told me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I
>> actually left it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch
>> that same train and found it.)But I digress.
>>
>> She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro
>> manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way
>> and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She
>> makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as
>> well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with
>> my UK son-in-law 

Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Chuck McCown]

So far this sounds like it will fit my requirements.  What is the batt life 
like and do you have to have a charger or does it charge via usb?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a Microsoft surface that I bought to resolve the very problem you have 
> (the too big and heavy one, not the having to downsize to make my wife happy 
> one).
> 
> I have a smallish "personal item" sized bag (my wife calls it my "murse") 
> that I keep all of the things I might need during a flight, such as phone 
> charger, usb cables, pencils, etc.  This fits nicely in there and doesn't 
> take up too much space.
> 
> Overall, it's a similar size to a tablet, and can be used that way as well.   
> It also runs normal windows stuff, so you can probably run solidworks.  You 
> may actually find that the stylus pen you can get for the surface makes 
> certain solidworks operations easier, but that most likely depends on what 
> operations you are performing.  
> 
> On the other hand my wife just replaced her tablet with a new large Samsung 
> tablet which comes with a nice keyboard as well.  Id have to look up the 
> model but for everything she does (email,  support tickets, etc) it works 
> fine.  But it isn't as nice to do actual work on as the surface. 
> 
> One last note about the surface.  The tablet version uses an optional 
> magnetic snap on keyboard which can be removed.  They have also released a 
> new version with a permantely attached keyboard.  Im intrigued by this but 
> not completely convinced. 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2019, 11:45 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told 
>> me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left 
>> it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train 
>> and found it.)But I digress.
>>  
>> She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
>> manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way 
>> and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She 
>> makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as 
>> well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my 
>> UK son-in-law as he is like this too. 
>>  
>> But again, I digress.
>>  
>> I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully 
>> one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an 
>> HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?
>>  
>> Dear Borg, what are my options? 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I have a Microsoft surface that I bought to resolve the very problem you
have (the too big and heavy one, not the having to downsize to make my wife
happy one).

I have a smallish "personal item" sized bag (my wife calls it my "murse")
that I keep all of the things I might need during a flight, such as phone
charger, usb cables, pencils, etc.  This fits nicely in there and doesn't
take up too much space.

Overall, it's a similar size to a tablet, and can be used that way as
well.   It also runs normal windows stuff, so you can probably run
solidworks.  You may actually find that the stylus pen you can get for the
surface makes certain solidworks operations easier, but that most likely
depends on what operations you are performing.

On the other hand my wife just replaced her tablet with a new large Samsung
tablet which comes with a nice keyboard as well.  Id have to look up the
model but for everything she does (email,  support tickets, etc) it works
fine.  But it isn't as nice to do actual work on as the surface.

One last note about the surface.  The tablet version uses an optional
magnetic snap on keyboard which can be removed.  They have also released a
new version with a permantely attached keyboard.  Im intrigued by this but
not completely convinced.


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019, 11:45 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told
> me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually
> left it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same
> train and found it.)But I digress.
>
> She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro
> manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way
> and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She
> makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as
> well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with
> my UK son-in-law as he is like this too.
>
> But again, I digress.
>
> I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully
> one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an
> HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?
>
> Dear Borg, what are my options?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Get a 2-in-1 Chromebook. Thin, light, cheap. If you want to use
  it as a tablet; fine. If you just have to have a laptop; open it
  all the way up. I happen to have one, and it works great as a
  tablet, but most often, I use it as a laptop. It runs almost
  everything Android, which are like miniature tablets these days.
If you need to run something more sophisticated, they also run
  Linux in a VM (container actually).


bp



On 9/8/2019 10:44 AM, Chuck McCown
  wrote:


  
  

  My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for
this fall.  She told me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big,
too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a train at
Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train
and found it.)But I digress.
   
  She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact
that she micro manages these trips and I don’t have to do a
thing.  She likes it that way and I like it that way.  I
just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure I
have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel
as well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful. 
She teams up with my UK son-in-law as he is like this too. 
  
   
  But again, I digress.
   
  I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size
keyboard.  Hopefully one with keys that physically move.  I
would like to be able to plug in an HDMI monitor too. 
Mouse?
   
  Dear Borg, what are my options?  

  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Cassidy B. Larson]

I’d get a Macbook Air. Thin and light enough to get past her “ipad” 
requirement.  then you get your keyboard/mouse needs met.
I travel to Europe a lot and my Macbook Pro is thin and light enough to carry 
in my carry-on backpack without issue.
Although I do bring my ipad for catching up on my shows when on the train/plane.



> On Sep 8, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> She has several iPads so if I want tech support from her I better stick with 
> her brand of smokes.
> 
> From: Ken Hohhof <>
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2019 12:05 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
> 
> You just described a laptop.
> 
> Also, does it have to literally be an iPad, i.e. an Apple product?  Or just a 
> tablet?  My son has some sort of Android tablet.  You could get something 
> like a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6.
> 
> Or if size is the only issue, get a compact laptop.  Dell XPS 13 is nice.  By 
> the time you add a cover and a physical keyboard and mouse to a tablet, it 
> walks and quacks like a laptop.  You wouldn’t want to leave it on the train 
> though.
> 
> 
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
> 
> My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me 
> I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it 
> on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and 
> found it.)But I digress.
> 
> She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
> manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way 
> and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She 
> makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as 
> well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my 
> UK son-in-law as he is like this too.
> 
> But again, I digress.
> 
> I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
> with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
> monitor too.  Mouse?
> 
> Dear Borg, what are my options?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question


Chuck,

When I did my big Europe trip last year, I didn't want to bring my heavy 17" laptop with me.  Too big and way too much data on it if I ever lost it.  Ended up getting a cheap win10 14" light weight notebook.  Put the bare minimum on it and setup my notebook at the office with RDP.  That way if I needed to access the mother ship while I was out, I just did a RDP into my computer sitting at the office.  Of course I needed a basic internet connection to do that.   


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She has several iPads so if I want tech support from her I better stick with her brand of smokes.  
 
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2019 12:05 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
 
You just described a laptop.
 
Also, does it have to literally be an iPad, i.e. an Apple product?  Or just a tablet?  My son has some sort of Android tablet.  You could get something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6.
 
Or if size is the only issue, get a compact laptop.  Dell XPS 13 is nice.  By the time you add a cover and a physical keyboard and mouse to a tablet, it walks and quacks like a laptop.  You wouldn’t want to leave it on the train though.
 
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question
 
My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found it.)But I digress.
 
She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as he is like this too.  
 
But again, I digress.
 
I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?
 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Ken Hohhof]

Then just borrow one of hers for the trip.

 

Maybe her ulterior motive is she doesn’t want you working on vacation.

 

See if she has a cute pink one you can borrow, you can have your keyboard and 
your man card back when you return.  Besides, Apple will be late to the 5G 
party, and by 2020 anything without 5G will be a useless brick.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 1:32 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

She has several iPads so if I want tech support from her I better stick with 
her brand of smokes.  

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2019 12:05 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

You just described a laptop.

 

Also, does it have to literally be an iPad, i.e. an Apple product?  Or just a 
tablet?  My son has some sort of Android tablet.  You could get something like 
a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6.

 

Or if size is the only issue, get a compact laptop.  Dell XPS 13 is nice.  By 
the time you add a cover and a physical keyboard and mouse to a tablet, it 
walks and quacks like a laptop.  You wouldn’t want to leave it on the train 
though.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me I 
am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a 
train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found 
it.)But I digress.

 

She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.  

 

But again, I digress.

 

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?

 

Dear Borg, what are my options?  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Chuck McCown]

She has several iPads so if I want tech support from her I better stick with 
her brand of smokes.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2019 12:05 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

You just described a laptop.

 

Also, does it have to literally be an iPad, i.e. an Apple product?  Or just a 
tablet?  My son has some sort of Android tablet.  You could get something like 
a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6.

 

Or if size is the only issue, get a compact laptop.  Dell XPS 13 is nice.  By 
the time you add a cover and a physical keyboard and mouse to a tablet, it 
walks and quacks like a laptop.  You wouldn’t want to leave it on the train 
though.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me I 
am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a 
train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found 
it.)But I digress.

 

She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.  

 

But again, I digress.

 

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?

 

Dear Borg, what are my options?  




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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Mathew Howard]

A Microsoft surface might be more in line with what you want

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019, 1:06 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> You just described a laptop.
>
>
>
> Also, does it have to literally be an iPad, i.e. an Apple product?  Or
> just a tablet?  My son has some sort of Android tablet.  You could get
> something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6.
>
>
>
> Or if size is the only issue, get a compact laptop.  Dell XPS 13 is nice.
> By the time you add a cover and a physical keyboard and mouse to a tablet,
> it walks and quacks like a laptop.  You wouldn’t want to leave it on the
> train though.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT iPad question
>
>
>
> My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told
> me I am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually
> left it on a train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same
> train and found it.)But I digress.
>
>
>
> She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro
> manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way
> and I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She
> makes sure I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as
> well as hotel rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with
> my UK son-in-law as he is like this too.
>
>
>
> But again, I digress.
>
>
>
> I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully
> one with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an
> HDMI monitor too.  Mouse?
>
>
>
> Dear Borg, what are my options?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Ken Hohhof]

You just described a laptop.

 

Also, does it have to literally be an iPad, i.e. an Apple product?  Or just a 
tablet?  My son has some sort of Android tablet.  You could get something like 
a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6.

 

Or if size is the only issue, get a compact laptop.  Dell XPS 13 is nice.  By 
the time you add a cover and a physical keyboard and mouse to a tablet, it 
walks and quacks like a laptop.  You wouldn’t want to leave it on the train 
though.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

 

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me I 
am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a 
train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found 
it.)But I digress.

 

She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.  

 

But again, I digress.

 

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?

 

Dear Borg, what are my options?  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT iPad question

[Chuck McCown]

I wonder if I can run solidworks and autocad on an iPad?

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2019 11:44 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: OT iPad question

My wife is busy (for months) planning some travel for this fall.  She told me I 
am not taking my laptop.  Too big, too heavy etc etc.  (I actually left it on a 
train at Heathrow once, had enough time to go catch that same train and found 
it.)But I digress.

She says I can have an iPad.  I acquiesce due to the fact that she micro 
manages these trips and I don’t have to do a thing.  She likes it that way and 
I like it that way.  I just go where I am told to go and I pay.  She makes sure 
I have clean clothes and the proper tickets needed for travel as well as hotel 
rooms.  It is actually pretty wonderful.  She teams up with my UK son-in-law as 
he is like this too.  

But again, I digress.

I know almost zero about iPads.  I need a human size keyboard.  Hopefully one 
with keys that physically move.  I would like to be able to plug in an HDMI 
monitor too.  Mouse?

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