Re: [AFMUG] High Priority Uplink / Downlink

[Aaron Schneider]

That isn't quite true about all Hi Priority traffic going before Low Priority 
CIR...  Leaving Hi Priority MIR at 0/0 is useful if you set a Low Priority CIR, 
in that case the LP CIR will be honored, then it will move to High Priority 
traffic.

Recall that the priority order proceeds as follow:

HiPri CIR
LoPri CIR
Bcast CIR (in downlink)
HiPri Remainder (beyond HP CIR, up to HP MIR/Burst)
LoPri Remainder (beyond LP CIR, up to HP MIR/Burst)
Bcast Remainder (beyond Bcast CIR, in downlink)

CIR is done in hardware, MIR is done in software, so CIR does count against MIR.

The broadcast channel is shared in downlink, so that is why there is a CIR for 
that data but only in downlink.  In uplink, broadcast data is user data so it 
will follow whatever priority is determined from the packet.

Regards,
-Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 11:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] High Priority Uplink / Downlink

Timothy, The Sustained rate is is in kbps and the allocation is in kbits.  
Could you give me an example or screenshot of your QOS (Session Status > 
Configuration) settings so I can better understand?

Also on George's response, "The scheduler will still prioritize HP traffic if 
you leave it at 0/0. The same applies if you're putting more traffic into it 
than you have configured.  All HP traffic goes before LP CIR and MIR anyway. I 
think Matt or Aaron explained it roughly this way before. "

That sounds like a bug in the QOS scheme, do you know where it was explained 
like this?
Or could Matt or Aaron @ Cambium please elaborate?

On 4/19/2016 2:44 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote:
> must set the Sustained Uplink/Downlink Data Rate and the 
> Uplink/Downlink Burst Allocation to be the same

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Mathew Howard]

It's limited to a 20mhz channel, so I think like 120Mbps aggregate... or
something like that.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> What is the new 900 MHz Cambium supposed to do flat out?
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 8:29 PM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>
>
> Indeed, a bit odd... I've never known 5ghz to work better than 2.4ghz nlos
> :P
>
> I would just try it and see what it does... even if you just test it with
> a pair of PowerBeams (or better yet, Rockets with 2`dishes), you should be
> able to get a pretty good idea what the airfibers are going to do.
> On Apr 22, 2016 8:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
> Something that takes a larger channel width to make the same throughput
> (losing sensitivity due to thermal noise in the process) vs an FPGA radio
> at half the frequency through trees? :P
>
> Just seems like an odd tip.
> On Apr 22, 2016 8:35 PM, "Keefe John"  wrote:
>
>> What about a b5?
>>
>> On April 22, 2016 8:32:36 PM CDT, Rory Conaway 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is
>>> what I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up
>>> there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>>
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
>>> penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a
>>> rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft
>>> higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal
>>> property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Like 0?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>>
>>> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>>> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Rory Conaway]

Im still working on that, just looking for a backup plan.  This is for 
backhaul.  I need to strengthen my negotiating position.


Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless

Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and abbreviations.


 Original message 
From: Bill Prince 
Date: 4/22/16 8:27 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration


If they want it bad enough, they will pay for the structure to get over it.


bp




On 4/22/2016 6:32 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is what I 
need.  I don't have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up there to 
get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration


200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can 
penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a rig 
for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft 
higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal property 
So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Like 0?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9 miles of 
trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"I wish I could play little league now.  I'd be way better than before."

[AFMUG] And this is why i dont trust T-Tommy Wheeler

[Rory Conaway]

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/googles-remarkably-close-relationship-with-the-obama-white-house-in-two-charts/

Note the 250 Google and government employees that shuttled between the 
government and their overlords.


Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless

Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and abbreviations.

Re: [AFMUG] Make a panel

[Jeremy]

AWESOME WORK!

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Everything thing checked outwe will deliver on Monday Few days for
> electricians to connect enclosure to power, grounding and bolting
> down...the AC didn't get here on time so installation will be next...the
> strobe and Horn work.
> Damn loud ...
> On Apr 22, 2016 3:34 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> Testing...
> On Apr 21, 2016 4:01 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> Stainless steel enclosure is almost ready.. We cut section at bottom for
>> conduit, two 1/2 inch holes on side for Horn and flashing stroke, two knock
>> outs for push switches.  Tomorrow we start on ventilation...
>> On Apr 21, 2016 3:35 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>>> OK, now that we have fixed the focus issue, we need more pixels
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2016 3:30 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Make a panel
>>>
>>> On Apr 21, 2016 12:54 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>>>
 Thank you for contacting technical support today. We're happy that we
 were able to resolve your issue.

 On 4/21/2016 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

 On Apr 21, 2016 12:46 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
 wrote:

> No...let me try
> ..
> On Apr 21, 2016 12:16 PM, "Bruce Robertson"  wrote:
>
>> You know about tapping on the image to focus it, right?  :-)
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Jeremy]

I am shooting 0.7 miles  through one extremely thick pine with a
Nanostation M2 in an area with little to no interference and pulling 30Mbps
on a 10MHz channel.  I'd say give it a shot!

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> What is the new 900 MHz Cambium supposed to do flat out?
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 8:29 PM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>
>
> Indeed, a bit odd... I've never known 5ghz to work better than 2.4ghz nlos
> :P
>
> I would just try it and see what it does... even if you just test it with
> a pair of PowerBeams (or better yet, Rockets with 2`dishes), you should be
> able to get a pretty good idea what the airfibers are going to do.
> On Apr 22, 2016 8:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
> Something that takes a larger channel width to make the same throughput
> (losing sensitivity due to thermal noise in the process) vs an FPGA radio
> at half the frequency through trees? :P
>
> Just seems like an odd tip.
> On Apr 22, 2016 8:35 PM, "Keefe John"  wrote:
>
>> What about a b5?
>>
>> On April 22, 2016 8:32:36 PM CDT, Rory Conaway 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is
>>> what I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up
>>> there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>>
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
>>> penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a
>>> rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft
>>> higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal
>>> property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Like 0?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>>
>>> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>>> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Chuck McCown]

What is the new 900 MHz Cambium supposed to do flat out?

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 8:29 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

Indeed, a bit odd... I've never known 5ghz to work better than 2.4ghz nlos :P

I would just try it and see what it does... even if you just test it with a 
pair of PowerBeams (or better yet, Rockets with 2`dishes), you should be able 
to get a pretty good idea what the airfibers are going to do. 

On Apr 22, 2016 8:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

  Something that takes a larger channel width to make the same throughput 
(losing sensitivity due to thermal noise in the process) vs an FPGA radio at 
half the frequency through trees? :P

  Just seems like an odd tip.

  On Apr 22, 2016 8:35 PM, "Keefe John"  wrote:

What about a b5?


On April 22, 2016 8:32:36 PM CDT, Rory Conaway  
wrote:
  We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is 
what I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up 
there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz. 




  Rory 




  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration 




  200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?

  Josh Luthman 


  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  
wrote:

  Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can 
penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a rig 
for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft 
higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal property 
So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...

  On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman"  
wrote:

  Like 0?  

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

  What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9 
miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?



  Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

  4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

  602-426-0542

  r...@triadwireless.net

  www.triadwireless.net



  “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.” 




-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[George Skorup]

Just tell your lawyer to tell their lawyer to call it even for all of 
the shit that UBNT didn't deliver on time... or at all.


On 4/22/2016 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


That's trademarked!  You wanna get sued?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 11:42 PM, "Ken Hohhof" > wrote:


SOON!
*From:* Josh Luthman 
*Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 10:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

Right around the corner...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 11:29 PM, "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That won't be until 2020.

bp


On 4/22/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Not Harriet's?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:54 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen"
mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:

#broadbandstimulus... we wipe with Benjamin's.

Thanks,
`S
---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

On Apr 22, 2016, at 19:46, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Thanks Scott.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:41 PM, "Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI)" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:

Deal!  Hell yes.

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Long as Scott buys em at 15.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI)" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:

LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w
sectors and poes for 7K. Do we have a deal?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net
*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Black market radios!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI)" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:

15k? More like $1700

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540 
Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net
*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat
fingers!


On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


450 are pretty expensive...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @
Internet Communicatio

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Josh Luthman]

That's trademarked!  You wanna get sued?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 11:42 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

> SOON!
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 10:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>
>
> Right around the corner...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 22, 2016 11:29 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> That won't be until 2020.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 4/22/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Not Harriet's?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Apr 22, 2016 10:54 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> #broadbandstimulus... we wipe with Benjamin's.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> `S
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 19:46, Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Scott.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 10:41 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
>>> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>>
 Deal!  Hell yes.

 *Tyson Burris, President*
  *Internet Communications Inc.*
  *739 Commerce Dr.*
  *Franklin, IN 46131*

 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online: **www.surfici.net*



 Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

 On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

 Long as Scott buys em at 15.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
 t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K.  Do
> we have a deal?
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net *
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
> Black market radios!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>> 15k?  More like $1700
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> 450 are pretty expensive...
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
>> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What exactly are you smoking?
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
>>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
>>> ] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> $15k each no antennas or POEs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
>>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> TTSIA!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Ken Hohhof]

SOON!

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 10:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

Right around the corner...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 11:29 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

  That won't be until 2020.



bp


On 4/22/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Not Harriet's?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:54 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen"  wrote:

  #broadbandstimulus... we wipe with Benjamin's. 

  Thanks, 
  `S

  ---
  Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

  On Apr 22, 2016, at 19:46, Josh Luthman  
wrote:


Thanks Scott.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:41 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
 wrote:

  Deal!  Hell yes.  


  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net



  Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


  On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:


Long as Scott buys em at 15.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc 
(ICI)"  wrote:

  LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K. 
 Do we have a deal?


  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net



  Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


  On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:


Black market radios!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc 
(ICI)"  wrote:

  15k?  More like $1700


  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net



  Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


  On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:


450 are pretty expensive...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications 
Inc (ICI)"  wrote:

  What exactly are you smoking?


  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net



  Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


  On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
 wrote:


IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated 
for 2016!



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs



$15k each no antennas or POEs





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
 wrote:

  TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Josh Luthman]

Right around the corner...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 11:29 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> That won't be until 2020.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 4/22/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Not Harriet's?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 22, 2016 10:54 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" 
> wrote:
>
>> #broadbandstimulus... we wipe with Benjamin's.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> `S
>>
>> ---
>> Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 19:46, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Scott.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Apr 22, 2016 10:41 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
>> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Deal!  Hell yes.
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>>   *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>>   *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>>   *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Long as Scott buys em at 15.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
>>> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>>
 LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K.  Do
 we have a deal?

 *Tyson Burris, President*
   *Internet Communications Inc.*
   *739 Commerce Dr.*
   *Franklin, IN 46131*

 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online: **www.surfici.net *



 Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

 On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

 Black market radios!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
 t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> 15k?  More like $1700
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>   *Internet Communications Inc.*
>   *739 Commerce Dr.*
>   *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net *
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
> 450 are pretty expensive...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>> What exactly are you smoking?
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>   *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>   *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>   *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>>
>>
>>
>> $15k each no antennas or POEs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>
>> TTSIA!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Bill Prince]

That won't be until 2020.


bp


On 4/22/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Not Harriet's?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:54 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" > wrote:


#broadbandstimulus... we wipe with Benjamin's.

Thanks,
`S

---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

On Apr 22, 2016, at 19:46, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
wrote:


Thanks Scott.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:41 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
(ICI)" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:

Deal!  Hell yes.

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Long as Scott buys em at 15.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications
Inc (ICI)" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>>
wrote:

LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and
poes for 7K.  Do we have a deal?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Black market radios!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI)" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:

15k?  More like $1700

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


450 are pretty expensive...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI)" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:

What exactly are you smoking?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander
Dussen mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:


IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get
updated for 2016!

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

$15k each no antennas or POEs


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander
Dussen mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:

TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Bill Prince]

If they want it bad enough, they will pay for the structure to get over it.


bp


On 4/22/2016 6:32 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:


We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is 
what I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable 
test up there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:


Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can 
penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am 
make a rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go 
maybe  15 ft higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on 
federal property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...


On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote:


Like 0?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway" > wrote:


What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9 
miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?


*Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542 *

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

**

“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Josh Luthman]

Not Harriet's?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 10:54 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen"  wrote:

> #broadbandstimulus... we wipe with Benjamin's.
>
> Thanks,
> `S
>
> ---
> Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.
>
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 19:46, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Scott.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 22, 2016 10:41 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>> Deal!  Hell yes.
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>   *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>   *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>   *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>
>>
>>
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Long as Scott buys em at 15.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
>> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K.  Do we
>>> have a deal?
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>>   *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>>   *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>>   *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Black market radios!
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
>>> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>>
 15k?  More like $1700

 *Tyson Burris, President*
   *Internet Communications Inc.*
   *739 Commerce Dr.*
   *Franklin, IN 46131*

 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online: **www.surfici.net*



 Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

 On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

 450 are pretty expensive...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
 t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> What exactly are you smoking?
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>   *Internet Communications Inc.*
>   *739 Commerce Dr.*
>   *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>
>
>
> $15k each no antennas or POEs
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
> sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>
> TTSIA!
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Scott Vander Dussen]

#broadbandstimulus... we wipe with Benjamin's.

Thanks,
`S

---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

On Apr 22, 2016, at 19:46, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Thanks Scott.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:41 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:
Deal!  Hell yes.

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Long as Scott buys em at 15.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:
LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K.  Do we have a 
deal?

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Black market radios!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:
15k?  More like $1700

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


450 are pretty expensive...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:
What exactly are you smoking?

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:

IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

$15k each no antennas or POEs


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Josh Luthman]

Thanks Scott.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 10:41 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> Deal!  Hell yes.
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Long as Scott buys em at 15.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>> LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K.  Do we
>> have a deal?
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>
>>
>>
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Black market radios!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
>> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 15k?  More like $1700
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 450 are pretty expensive...
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
>>> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>>
 What exactly are you smoking?

 *Tyson Burris, President*
  *Internet Communications Inc.*
  *739 Commerce Dr.*
  *Franklin, IN 46131*

 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online: **www.surfici.net*



 Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

 On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
 wrote:

 IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs



 $15k each no antennas or POEs




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
 sc...@velociter.net> wrote:

 TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)]

Deal!  Hell yes.  

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net
 
Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
> 
> Long as Scott buys em at 15.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
>>  wrote:
>> LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K.  Do we 
>> have a deal?
>> 
>> Tyson Burris, President 
>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>>   
>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
>> Online: www.surfici.net
>>  
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Black market radios!
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
 On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
  wrote:
 15k?  More like $1700
 
 Tyson Burris, President 
 Internet Communications Inc. 
 739 Commerce Dr. 
 Franklin, IN 46131 
   
 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
 Online: www.surfici.net
  
 Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
 
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
> 
> 450 are pretty expensive...
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
>>  wrote:
>> What exactly are you smoking?
>> 
>> Tyson Burris, President 
>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>>   
>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
>> Online: www.surfici.net
>>  
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> $15k each no antennas or POEs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Josh Luthman]

Long as Scott buys em at 15.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 10:36 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K.  Do we
> have a deal?
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Black market radios!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>> 15k?  More like $1700
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>
>>
>>
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 450 are pretty expensive...
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
>> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What exactly are you smoking?
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> $15k each no antennas or POEs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
>>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> TTSIA!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)]

LMAO.  Ok I will sell you guys 450 APs w sectors and poes for 7K.  Do we have a 
deal?

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net
 
Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
> 
> Black market radios!
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
>>  wrote:
>> 15k?  More like $1700
>> 
>> Tyson Burris, President 
>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>>   
>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
>> Online: www.surfici.net
>>  
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 450 are pretty expensive...
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
 On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
  wrote:
 What exactly are you smoking?
 
 Tyson Burris, President 
 Internet Communications Inc. 
 739 Commerce Dr. 
 Franklin, IN 46131 
   
 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
 Online: www.surfici.net
  
 Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
 
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen  
> wrote:
> 
> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
> 
>  
> 
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
> 
>  
> 
> $15k each no antennas or POEs
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
>  wrote:
> 
> TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Josh Luthman]

Black market radios!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 10:27 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> 15k?  More like $1700
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> 450 are pretty expensive...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
> t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>> What exactly are you smoking?
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>
>>
>>
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>>
>>
>>
>> $15k each no antennas or POEs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> TTSIA!
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Mathew Howard]

Indeed, a bit odd... I've never known 5ghz to work better than 2.4ghz nlos
:P

I would just try it and see what it does... even if you just test it with a
pair of PowerBeams (or better yet, Rockets with 2`dishes), you should be
able to get a pretty good idea what the airfibers are going to do.
On Apr 22, 2016 8:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

Something that takes a larger channel width to make the same throughput
(losing sensitivity due to thermal noise in the process) vs an FPGA radio
at half the frequency through trees? :P

Just seems like an odd tip.
On Apr 22, 2016 8:35 PM, "Keefe John"  wrote:

> What about a b5?
>
> On April 22, 2016 8:32:36 PM CDT, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>> We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is
>> what I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up
>> there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>>
>>
>>
>> 200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>>
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
>> penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a
>> rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft
>> higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal
>> property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Like 0?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)]

15k?  More like $1700

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net
 
Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
> 
> 450 are pretty expensive...
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" 
>>  wrote:
>> What exactly are you smoking?
>> 
>> Tyson Burris, President 
>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>>   
>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
>> Online: www.surfici.net
>>  
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> $15k each no antennas or POEs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Josh Luthman]

450 are pretty expensive...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 9:54 PM, "Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)" <
t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> What exactly are you smoking?
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>
>
>
> $15k each no antennas or POEs
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
> TTSIA!
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)]

What exactly are you smoking?

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net
 
Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

> On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen  wrote:
> 
> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>  
> $15k each no antennas or POEs
> 
>  
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>  
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen  
> wrote:
> TTSIA!
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Josh Luthman]

It's an OP requirement.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 9:39 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> I never said 200mbps
> On Apr 22, 2016 7:32 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
>> We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is
>> what I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up
>> there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>>
>>
>>
>> 200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
>> penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a
>> rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft
>> higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal
>> property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Like 0?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Josh Reynolds]

Something that takes a larger channel width to make the same throughput
(losing sensitivity due to thermal noise in the process) vs an FPGA radio
at half the frequency through trees? :P

Just seems like an odd tip.
On Apr 22, 2016 8:35 PM, "Keefe John"  wrote:

> What about a b5?
>
> On April 22, 2016 8:32:36 PM CDT, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>>
>> We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is
>> what I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up
>> there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>>
>>
>>
>> 200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
>> penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a
>> rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft
>> higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal
>> property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Like 0?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Jaime Solorza]

I never said 200mbps
On Apr 22, 2016 7:32 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is what
> I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up
> there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>
>
>
> 200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
> penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a
> rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft
> higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal
> property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
>
> On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
> Like 0?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Keefe John]

What about a b5?

On April 22, 2016 8:32:36 PM CDT, Rory Conaway  wrote:
>We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is
>what I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable
>test up there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.
>
>Rory
>
>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>
>
>200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
>mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
>penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am
>make a rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go
>maybe  15 ft higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on
>federal property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
>On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman"
>mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
>wrote:
>
>Like 0?
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"
>mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>
>Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
>4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
>602-426-0542
>r...@triadwireless.net
>www.triadwireless.net
>
>“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than
>before.”

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Rory Conaway]

We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is what I 
need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable test up there to 
get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration


200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can 
penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a rig 
for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft 
higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal property 
So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Like 0?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9 miles of 
trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Josh Luthman]

That's the black market price =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
wrote:

> IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs
>
>
>
> $15k each no antennas or POEs
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
> TTSIA!
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Scott Vander Dussen]

IKR.. Cambium and their pricing needs to get updated for 2016!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

$15k each no antennas or POEs


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Josh Luthman]

$15k each no antennas or POEs


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
wrote:

> TTSIA!
>

[AFMUG] WTB: 5ghz 450 APs

[Scott Vander Dussen]

TTSIA!

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Eric Kuhnke]

Sure, but with a 10 MHz 256QAM dual polarity channel in 2.4 he's not going
to get anywhere near 200 aggregate. It can work great and have good
latency, 0% packet loss but it won't be particularly fast.

I would try it, at that distance, if you don't need the AF2 somewhere else
in your network you could always resell them to somebody else at a very
slight loss if it doesn't work.


On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
> penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a
> rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft
> higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal
> property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
> On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Like 0?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>>> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>>> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Josh Luthman]

200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
> penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a
> rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft
> higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal
> property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
> On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Like 0?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>>> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>>> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Seth Mattinen]

On 4/22/16 17:40, Rory Conaway wrote:

Just curious if brute force might work under a mile.


Sure, at some point you could put enough RF power into it to burn a hole 
through the trees.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Jaime Solorza]

Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am make a
rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go maybe  15 ft
higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on federal
property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Like 0?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
>> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Eric Kuhnke]

I've seen it work with nanobridge-to-nanobridge (or nanobeam, powerbeam
etc) at 1-2km distances through evergreen trees in the pacific northwest.
This was in locations with very clean noise floor. Even 5 GHz will go
through a small (20 meter sized) individual cluster of pine trees at 1.5km
PTP, if the rest of the link is totally clear.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> Just curious if brute force might work under a mile.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 5:40 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>
>
>
> I never had good luck with any kind of trees at that frequency.  I would
> kinda work but not well.
>
>
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 6:33 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>
>
>
> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Eric Kuhnke]

200 aggregate or 200 full duplex?  I'd say it depends on channel size and
how high you can get the dishes. Are these at the base of the trees or
somewhat higher?

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Rory Conaway]

Just curious if brute force might work under a mile.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

I never had good luck with any kind of trees at that frequency.  I would kinda 
work but not well.

From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9 miles of 
trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Josh Luthman]

Like 0?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
> miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Chuck McCown]

I never had good luck with any kind of trees at that frequency.  I would kinda 
work but not well.  

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9 miles of 
trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?

 

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net

www.triadwireless.net

 

“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.” 

 

[AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Rory Conaway]

What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9 miles of 
trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"I wish I could play little league now.  I'd be way better than before."

Re: [AFMUG] Technology Use Policy

[Sean Heskett]

I highly encourage our employees to over use technology so that we can stay
ahead of our customers.

Seriously tho, we have never in 15 years had to tell someone to not surf
the web or Facebook or whatever.  I'd rather tackle it individually than on
a whole if it ever was an issue.

I think the more they are allowed to explore the Internet the smarter it
makes them with everything we do.

-Sean


On Wednesday, April 20, 2016, Ben Royer  wrote:

> Anyone have a nice Technology Use Policy for their employees they would be
> willing to share?  Working on a policy for our company and in doing
> research, some out there are too simple, others seem overly complex,
> figured as I continue to write ours I’d at least ask if any WISP has one
> that is WISP-centric.
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

[Josh Luthman]

LOL!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:00 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have considered the fact that sometimes wiring is bad in homes, yes.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Have you considered burning his house down?
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 3:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So this guys still at it, hes tried contacing rise multiple times, they
>>> wont help, blah blah blah, wants us to help.
>>>
>>> I did my due diligence, I called rise, told them we have a numbskul. I
>>> asked them if they were serving malicious content over unsecured wifi, he
>>> assured me they werent, something about bad juju and all, I told him sorry
>>> for calling, and im not a rat fink snitch but I need this custome roff my
>>> back so ill just point him to the FCC complaint form so they can tell him
>>> to get bent.
>>>
>>> I sent him the consumer complaint link with the FCC and told him its not
>>> our place to get involved.
>>>
>>> I assume this will end up resulting in him complaining every two days on
>>> that form about us too
>>>
>>> Im no snitch btw
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Flo is your customer?

 bp
 


 On 4/11/2016 2:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 I think some of my customers were in a recent Progressive commercial:
 http://lifelanes.progressive.com/park-ranger-mark/



 *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
 *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 4:21 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

 I feel bad for the poor Rise Broadband guy he talks to, hes convinced
 their ESSIDs have infected him

 On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> stupid malware, i would have been a real good bad guy, i need to learn
> to code so i can hacksnphreaks stuff
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> Correct
>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:43 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> no real way to do that remotely is there with no one holding the
>>> reset and a layer 2 connection?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>
 No. TFTP flash recreates the flash filesystem. HTTP upgrade does
 not.
 On Apr 10, 2016 9:38 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> if it happens to be crumped, and i http it a firmware, it should
> still overwrite the funtime hatred shouldnt it?
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> Nope. Just TFTP flash it to the newest stable firmware.
>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there somethin ng to run against this air router to check it?
>>> On Apr 10, 2016 7:53 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <
>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>

 
 http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/29/antivirus_blood_splattered_as_biz_warned_audit_or_die/


 
 http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/security-wares-like-kaspersky-av-can-make-you-more-vulnerable-to-attacks/


 
 https://books.google.com/books?id=wqV1CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=antivirus+attack+surface&source=bl&ots=HF7hnyj7sN&sig=Ski6OAQaLdD4MeIDGJRfuNoaZiE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsgP7nroXMAhUjk4MKHb19DQ0Q6AEIKzAE#v=onepage&q=antivirus%20attack%20surface&f=false
 On Apr 10, 2016 6:21 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Josh,
>
> Can you expand that?
>
>
> The following is the last communication, note this started as
> a slowness complaint.
>
> Hi. I had a couple questions regarding the wireless router
> that you provide with my service. Since I don't have access to 
> the device,
> could you

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I have considered the fact that sometimes wiring is bad in homes, yes.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Have you considered burning his house down?
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 3:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So this guys still at it, hes tried contacing rise multiple times, they
>> wont help, blah blah blah, wants us to help.
>>
>> I did my due diligence, I called rise, told them we have a numbskul. I
>> asked them if they were serving malicious content over unsecured wifi, he
>> assured me they werent, something about bad juju and all, I told him sorry
>> for calling, and im not a rat fink snitch but I need this custome roff my
>> back so ill just point him to the FCC complaint form so they can tell him
>> to get bent.
>>
>> I sent him the consumer complaint link with the FCC and told him its not
>> our place to get involved.
>>
>> I assume this will end up resulting in him complaining every two days on
>> that form about us too
>>
>> Im no snitch btw
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> Flo is your customer?
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/11/2016 2:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> I think some of my customers were in a recent Progressive commercial:
>>> http://lifelanes.progressive.com/park-ranger-mark/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 4:21 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router
>>>
>>> I feel bad for the poor Rise Broadband guy he talks to, hes convinced
>>> their ESSIDs have infected him
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 stupid malware, i would have been a real good bad guy, i need to learn
 to code so i can hacksnphreaks stuff

 On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds < 
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Correct
> On Apr 10, 2016 9:43 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> no real way to do that remotely is there with no one holding the
>> reset and a layer 2 connection?
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No. TFTP flash recreates the flash filesystem. HTTP upgrade does not.
>>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:38 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 if it happens to be crumped, and i http it a firmware, it should
 still overwrite the funtime hatred shouldnt it?

 On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Nope. Just TFTP flash it to the newest stable firmware.
> On Apr 10, 2016 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there somethin ng to run against this air router to check it?
>> On Apr 10, 2016 7:53 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < 
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/29/antivirus_blood_splattered_as_biz_warned_audit_or_die/
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/security-wares-like-kaspersky-av-can-make-you-more-vulnerable-to-attacks/
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=wqV1CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=antivirus+attack+surface&source=bl&ots=HF7hnyj7sN&sig=Ski6OAQaLdD4MeIDGJRfuNoaZiE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsgP7nroXMAhUjk4MKHb19DQ0Q6AEIKzAE#v=onepage&q=antivirus%20attack%20surface&f=false
>>> On Apr 10, 2016 6:21 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Josh,

 Can you expand that?


 The following is the last communication, note this started as a
 slowness complaint.

 Hi. I had a couple questions regarding the wireless router that
 you provide with my service. Since I don't have access to the 
 device, could
 you turn off broadcasting of the SSID please? The reason for this 
 request
 due to a very damaging virus/malware that hit my home network 
 extremely
 hard.gained access to my networks through the wireless connection 
 and my
 phone, which then took out

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

[Mathew Howard]

Have you considered burning his house down?

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 3:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So this guys still at it, hes tried contacing rise multiple times, they
> wont help, blah blah blah, wants us to help.
>
> I did my due diligence, I called rise, told them we have a numbskul. I
> asked them if they were serving malicious content over unsecured wifi, he
> assured me they werent, something about bad juju and all, I told him sorry
> for calling, and im not a rat fink snitch but I need this custome roff my
> back so ill just point him to the FCC complaint form so they can tell him
> to get bent.
>
> I sent him the consumer complaint link with the FCC and told him its not
> our place to get involved.
>
> I assume this will end up resulting in him complaining every two days on
> that form about us too
>
> Im no snitch btw
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Flo is your customer?
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 4/11/2016 2:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I think some of my customers were in a recent Progressive commercial:
>> http://lifelanes.progressive.com/park-ranger-mark/
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 4:21 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router
>>
>> I feel bad for the poor Rise Broadband guy he talks to, hes convinced
>> their ESSIDs have infected him
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> stupid malware, i would have been a real good bad guy, i need to learn
>>> to code so i can hacksnphreaks stuff
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds < 
>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>
 Correct
 On Apr 10, 2016 9:43 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> no real way to do that remotely is there with no one holding the reset
> and a layer 2 connection?
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> No. TFTP flash recreates the flash filesystem. HTTP upgrade does not.
>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:38 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> if it happens to be crumped, and i http it a firmware, it should
>>> still overwrite the funtime hatred shouldnt it?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>
 Nope. Just TFTP flash it to the newest stable firmware.
 On Apr 10, 2016 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there somethin ng to run against this air router to check it?
> On Apr 10, 2016 7:53 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < 
> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> 
>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/29/antivirus_blood_splattered_as_biz_warned_audit_or_die/
>>
>>
>> 
>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/security-wares-like-kaspersky-av-can-make-you-more-vulnerable-to-attacks/
>>
>>
>> 
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=wqV1CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=antivirus+attack+surface&source=bl&ots=HF7hnyj7sN&sig=Ski6OAQaLdD4MeIDGJRfuNoaZiE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsgP7nroXMAhUjk4MKHb19DQ0Q6AEIKzAE#v=onepage&q=antivirus%20attack%20surface&f=false
>> On Apr 10, 2016 6:21 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Josh,
>>>
>>> Can you expand that?
>>>
>>>
>>> The following is the last communication, note this started as a
>>> slowness complaint.
>>>
>>> Hi. I had a couple questions regarding the wireless router that
>>> you provide with my service. Since I don't have access to the 
>>> device, could
>>> you turn off broadcasting of the SSID please? The reason for this 
>>> request
>>> due to a very damaging virus/malware that hit my home network 
>>> extremely
>>> hard.gained access to my networks through the wireless connection 
>>> and my
>>> phone, which then took out every thing else connected. The Wi-Fi 
>>> that
>>> caused the issue ended up as "OPEN" and not longer secure. Since 
>>> there is
>>> such massive distances between any of us our her I would only see 
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Technology Use Policy

[Paul McCall]

Spectorsoft makes a nice way to do spot testing, like drug testing

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Royer
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 5:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Technology Use Policy

Anyone have a nice Technology Use Policy for their employees they would be 
willing to share?  Working on a policy for our company and in doing research, 
some out there are too simple, others seem overly complex, figured as I 
continue to write ours I’d at least ask if any WISP has one that is 
WISP-centric.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

So this guys still at it, hes tried contacing rise multiple times, they
wont help, blah blah blah, wants us to help.

I did my due diligence, I called rise, told them we have a numbskul. I
asked them if they were serving malicious content over unsecured wifi, he
assured me they werent, something about bad juju and all, I told him sorry
for calling, and im not a rat fink snitch but I need this custome roff my
back so ill just point him to the FCC complaint form so they can tell him
to get bent.

I sent him the consumer complaint link with the FCC and told him its not
our place to get involved.

I assume this will end up resulting in him complaining every two days on
that form about us too

Im no snitch btw

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Flo is your customer?
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 4/11/2016 2:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> I think some of my customers were in a recent Progressive commercial:
> http://lifelanes.progressive.com/park-ranger-mark/
>
>
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 4:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router
>
> I feel bad for the poor Rise Broadband guy he talks to, hes convinced
> their ESSIDs have infected him
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> stupid malware, i would have been a real good bad guy, i need to learn to
>> code so i can hacksnphreaks stuff
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds < 
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Correct
>>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:43 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 no real way to do that remotely is there with no one holding the reset
 and a layer 2 connection?

 On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Josh Reynolds < 
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> No. TFTP flash recreates the flash filesystem. HTTP upgrade does not.
> On Apr 10, 2016 9:38 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> if it happens to be crumped, and i http it a firmware, it should
>> still overwrite the funtime hatred shouldnt it?
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope. Just TFTP flash it to the newest stable firmware.
>>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Is there somethin ng to run against this air router to check it?
 On Apr 10, 2016 7:53 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < 
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

>
> 
> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/29/antivirus_blood_splattered_as_biz_warned_audit_or_die/
>
>
> 
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/security-wares-like-kaspersky-av-can-make-you-more-vulnerable-to-attacks/
>
>
> 
> https://books.google.com/books?id=wqV1CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=antivirus+attack+surface&source=bl&ots=HF7hnyj7sN&sig=Ski6OAQaLdD4MeIDGJRfuNoaZiE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsgP7nroXMAhUjk4MKHb19DQ0Q6AEIKzAE#v=onepage&q=antivirus%20attack%20surface&f=false
> On Apr 10, 2016 6:21 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>> Can you expand that?
>>
>>
>> The following is the last communication, note this started as a
>> slowness complaint.
>>
>> Hi. I had a couple questions regarding the wireless router that
>> you provide with my service. Since I don't have access to the 
>> device, could
>> you turn off broadcasting of the SSID please? The reason for this 
>> request
>> due to a very damaging virus/malware that hit my home network 
>> extremely
>> hard.gained access to my networks through the wireless connection 
>> and my
>> phone, which then took out every thing else connected. The Wi-Fi that
>> caused the issue ended up as "OPEN" and not longer secure. Since 
>> there is
>> such massive distances between any of us our her I would only see 
>> that
>> specific SSID on days when everthing allowed to to travel just a 
>> litter bit
>> further. And when I did see it over the last 1.5 years, but it was 
>> always
>> "Secured". Anyway... the story is much longer but A. can you hid

[AFMUG] FS: PTP 600 links

[Gino Villarini]

For sale:
PTP 600 connectorized  5.8 ghz links300 mbps PIDU included$1500 per link


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[AFMUG] FS: Entitlements & WM 4

[Daniel Gerlach]

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Re: [AFMUG] PMP100 SM lite license

[Daniel Gerlach]

yes no Problem send me Mac´s


2016-04-22 11:40 GMT+02:00 Pavel Lyuty :
> Someone can help quickly get a license for the PMP100 SM Lite 512k to 4M 3
> pcs. To replace after the storm?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Ethernet Errors

[Josh Reynolds]

We had a lot of issues with rb2011 Ethernet drivers showing issues with HP,
Intel NICs, netonix, adtran, accedian, etc.

CCR used to (dunno if they still do) have a lot of weird Ethernet issues
with other gear as well. The rest of the Mikrotik gear was normally pretty
solid.
On Apr 21, 2016 11:16 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> Could be MikroTik interface or radio interface. I'd lean towards the UBNT
> being shit. As a rough guess, we see 2-3X more ethernet issues on UBNT
> radios compared to cabling, surge suppressors and switch/router port
> combined.
>
> On 4/21/2016 9:02 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
>> I've got an ethernet link between a RB2011 and a Nanobridge that is
>> giving me Rx FCS Errors and Rx Align Errors. Anyone know what could cause
>> this?  I thought it might be something with the surge suppressors, but I
>> took them out of the equation and am still seeing the same thing.
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] PMP100 SM lite license

[Pavel Lyuty]

Someone can help quickly get a license for the PMP100 SM Lite 512k to 4M 3
pcs. To replace after the storm?