Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[David Milholen]

That is flippin AWESOME!
Very cool how you took the APC thingy to the next Level..
Now you need the next version to be the smaller Din rail unit which I 
think will support 8 Ports.
I could really use a few of the smaller units for some rapid deployment 
options.


If there is some interest I have developed a simple tower light 
monitoring solution for a few of our sites using the atmel chipset or 
(Audrino) as most know it.




On 5/17/2016 7:42 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
While waiting for Forrest, here is some eye candy from my lab.   24 
slots 1 RU.  A/B voltage input on the back.
4 input voltage busses.  You can mix 12, 24, 48 and -48 all in the 
same rack.  1.25 amps per POE.  Each circuit is fused.  You can even 
mix 7.7 volts and 33 volts if you want.  Each of the 4 voltage busses 
is assigned to 6 slots.  Slots 1-6 V1, Slots 2-12 V2 etc.


-Original Message- From: George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:11 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(

On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in the past.
Is this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a need.




--

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[George Skorup]

Oh OK, I was confused cuz you said 1.2A per POE.

On 5/17/2016 9:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

1.25 amps per pair.
If you are running 48 volts you need less than 2 amps max. Same 
circuit as my GIGE-APC-POE.


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:56 PM, George Skorup > wrote:


1.25A is not enough to run a licensed radio that uses 80W peak,
72-75W under normal conditions. Trust me, I'd like to get rid of
these old Trango's and go to something more modern that uses less
power. All about the dollas yo.

On 5/17/2016 7:42 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com  wrote:

While waiting for Forrest, here is some eye candy from my
lab.   24 slots 1 RU.  A/B voltage input on the back.
4 input voltage busses.  You can mix 12, 24, 48 and -48 all in
the same rack.  1.25 amps per POE.  Each circuit is fused. 
You can even mix 7.7 volts and 33 volts if you want.  Each of

the 4 voltage busses is assigned to 6 slots.  Slots 1-6 V1,
Slots 2-12 V2 etc.

-Original Message- From: George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:11 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(

On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in
the past.
Is this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a need.

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[Chuck McCown]

1.25 amps per pair.
If you are running 48 volts you need less than 2 amps max.  Same circuit as
my GIGE-APC-POE.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:56 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> 1.25A is not enough to run a licensed radio that uses 80W peak, 72-75W
> under normal conditions. Trust me, I'd like to get rid of these old
> Trango's and go to something more modern that uses less power. All about
> the dollas yo.
>
> On 5/17/2016 7:42 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
>> While waiting for Forrest, here is some eye candy from my lab.   24 slots
>> 1 RU.  A/B voltage input on the back.
>> 4 input voltage busses.  You can mix 12, 24, 48 and -48 all in the same
>> rack.  1.25 amps per POE.  Each circuit is fused.  You can even mix 7.7
>> volts and 33 volts if you want.  Each of the 4 voltage busses is assigned
>> to 6 slots.  Slots 1-6 V1, Slots 2-12 V2 etc.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: George Skorup
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:11 PM
>> To: Animal Farm
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?
>>
>> Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(
>>
>> On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in the past.
>>> Is this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a need.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

[George Skorup]

They listened. 450i is 802.3at. Though I really wish they would've 
followed ePMP with it and let us run 24/29.5 Canopy or 3at. Obviously 
with the caveat that you won't be able to use the aux port POE out. That 
would've made dropping new APs onto existing sites much easier. Replace 
radio, done.


On 5/17/2016 8:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


Well tell Cambium to stop doing weird shit and get in line with the 
rest of the market :P


On May 17, 2016 8:04 PM, "George Skorup" > wrote:


Oh how nice it would be if everything took standard POE.

On 5/17/2016 7:59 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) wrote:


Thanks

�

That�s what I use for the bigger sites.

After something more all in one.

�

:-)

�

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*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:57 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

�

PacketFlux GigE injector of some kind and a switch/router with
gigabit ports.

On 5/17/2016 7:51 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) wrote:

Hello

�

For very small sites I use a 750UP to power and route.

I�m after something with Gig ports that works similar.

What are you folk using?

�

Thanks

�

Rhys

�

Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

[Josh Reynolds]

Well tell Cambium to stop doing weird shit and get in line with the rest of
the market :P
On May 17, 2016 8:04 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> Oh how nice it would be if everything took standard POE.
>
> On 5/17/2016 7:59 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) wrote:
>
> Thanks
>
> �
>
> That�s what I use for the bigger sites.
>
> After something more all in one.
>
> �
>
> :-)
>
> �
>
> �
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:57 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE
>
> �
>
> PacketFlux GigE injector of some kind and a switch/router with gigabit
> ports.
>
> On 5/17/2016 7:51 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> �
>
> For very small sites I use a 750UP to power and route.
>
> I�m after something with Gig ports that works similar.
>
> What are you folk using?
>
> �
>
> Thanks
>
> �
>
> Rhys
>
> �
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Thanks

 

That's what I use for the bigger sites.

After something more all in one.

 

:-)

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

 

PacketFlux GigE injector of some kind and a switch/router with gigabit ports.

On 5/17/2016 7:51 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) wrote:

Hello

�

For very small sites I use a 750UP to power and route.

I�m after something with Gig ports that works similar.

What are you folk using?

�

Thanks

�

Rhys

 

Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

[Josh Reynolds]

Edgepoint
On May 17, 2016 7:51 PM, "Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)" 
wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> For very small sites I use a 750UP to power and route.
>
> I’m after something with Gig ports that works similar.
>
> What are you folk using?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Rhys
>

Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

[George Skorup]

PacketFlux GigE injector of some kind and a switch/router with gigabit 
ports.


On 5/17/2016 7:51 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) wrote:


Hello

For very small sites I use a 750UP to power and route.

I�m after something with Gig ports that works similar.

What are you folk using?

Thanks

Rhys

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[George Skorup]

1.25A is not enough to run a licensed radio that uses 80W peak, 72-75W 
under normal conditions. Trust me, I'd like to get rid of these old 
Trango's and go to something more modern that uses less power. All about 
the dollas yo.


On 5/17/2016 7:42 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
While waiting for Forrest, here is some eye candy from my lab.   24 
slots 1 RU.  A/B voltage input on the back.
4 input voltage busses.  You can mix 12, 24, 48 and -48 all in the 
same rack.  1.25 amps per POE.  Each circuit is fused.  You can even 
mix 7.7 volts and 33 volts if you want.  Each of the 4 voltage busses 
is assigned to 6 slots.  Slots 1-6 V1, Slots 2-12 V2 etc.


-Original Message- From: George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:11 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(

On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in the past.
Is this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a need.

[AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hello

 

For very small sites I use a 750UP to power and route.

I'm after something with Gig ports that works similar.

What are you folk using?

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[George Skorup]

We're going to be retrofitting some sites and installing some old Trango 
ApexPlus radios. Going to inject with GigE-POE-APC's. I was hoping to 
have remote power control capability since we're going to be building up 
completely new cabinets anyway. Not only the remote power control, but 
getting rid of the glass fuses as well. I would be fine with a single 
port injector version for the crazy -48 on all pairs, return on shield 
POE scheme with the ApexPlus/Lynx. I imagine that has the same issue as 
the -48 PDU. Oh well, I can leave them old school until you can come up 
with something. I have 14 of these things, so it'd be nice to have 
something eventually.


BTW, I'll be powering these from a 48-48 RSD which is then fed from a 
Traco +48 TSP+BCM UPS.


Honestly, I'd rather have the rack mount 16/18 port universal sync 
injectors right now. So if you're working on that, don't worry about 
this. :)


P.S. I had an Exalt radio up and crash in a thunderstorm last week. PDU 
feeding a GigE-POE-APC. Port didn't trip, radio just quit. Went from 
520ma utilization to about 150ma. I'm thinking soft lock. PDU saved me 
from an hour and a half drive. That's where I was going with this. I 
hate driving for hours just to power-cycle some piece of shit radio. So 
everywhere we have these goddamn Exalts is getting either a PDU or your 
new universal injector, 12 port DIN or rack mount. Gotta have it. Had 
another one lock up earlier that day, and it was on its own 802.3at 
brick, but it was only 5 minutes from my house. Still pissed me off.


On 5/17/2016 7:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

Just got my nose deeply into R for other things.

The board for the PDU's was designed so we could (at least in theory) 
build a -48V version.  The underlying issue with it is that it would 
require power from a base unit to power up any radios - since we need 
positive power to run the circuitry.


If you really really really really want one, I guess we could build 
one in the -48V style.   I'd have to look at see what parts we'd have 
to bring in to make it though.




On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:11 PM, George Skorup > wrote:


Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(


On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in the
past. Is this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a
need.





--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com 
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Just got my nose deeply into R for other things.

The board for the PDU's was designed so we could (at least in theory) build
a -48V version.  The underlying issue with it is that it would require
power from a base unit to power up any radios - since we need positive
power to run the circuitry.

If you really really really really want one, I guess we could build one in
the -48V style.   I'd have to look at see what parts we'd have to bring in
to make it though.



On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:11 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(
>
>
> On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>
>> Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in the past. Is
>> this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a need.
>>
>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Josh Reynolds]

Eh, it modifies some mca attributes. It's not all in the config, but still
should be easy to do in ansible.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Now that I have some basics of ansible, it's easy to clear anything out of
> the config file for me.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:18:42 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> That only clears out the current monitoring session AFAIK, it doesn't
> remove entries from previous aircontrol or aircontrol2 server instances. I
> created a script to do this previously that took a flat file ip list input.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Jesse DuPont <
> jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
>
>> In the AC2 client connected to your test server, right-click each
>> monitored device, choose Stop Monitoring. After that, right-click each one
>> and choose Remove.
>>
>> *Jesse DuPont*
>>
>> Network Architect
>> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
>> Celerity Networks LLC
>>
>> Celerity Broadband LLC
>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>>
>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
>> On 5/17/16 5:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> whats the method to clear these ones out effectively
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HNNNGGG don't do that.
>>>
>>> Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you
>>> managed devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to that
>>> aircontrol server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of ARP
>>> every 60 seconds or so when those servers don't exist anymore.
>>>
>>> It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get them
>>> clean.
>>>
>>> Put up a real server / vm, associate devices, and be done with it. Linux
>>> works best (by far).​
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 this was just a test install of ac2, if i reinstall on another machine
 and kill this one, what do i need to do to control the devices from that?

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

> nothing monitors toughswitches. not really.
>
> kill them with fire anyway
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thats what i did, didnt find anything
>>
>> just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is
>> hanging now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-)
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling <
>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode
>>> and just type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and
>>> so on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add
 anything. I have to manually add the device

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things
> about running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night 
> so I
> have monitoring of all radios from the start.
> On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple
>> configuration. UBNT and beta together always scares me, but this is 
>> a slick
>> tool. Chuck M must have overseen it since it actually works
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> is the windows server variant heavy?
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Mike Hammett]

Now that I have some basics of ansible, it's easy to clear anything out of the 
config file for me. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:18:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware 



That only clears out the current monitoring session AFAIK, it doesn't remove 
entries from previous aircontrol or aircontrol2 server instances. I created a 
script to do this previously that took a flat file ip list input. 


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Jesse DuPont < jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > 
wrote: 




In the AC2 client connected to your test server, right-click each monitored 
device, choose Stop Monitoring. After that, right-click each one and choose 
Remove. 



Jesse DuPont 

Network Architect 
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net 
Celerity Networks LLC 
Celerity Broadband LLC 
Like us! facebook.com / celeritynetworksllc 
Like us! facebook.com /celeritybroadband 

On 5/17/16 5:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 



whats the method to clear these ones out effectively 




On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 




HNNNGGG don't do that. 


Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you managed 
devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to that aircontrol 
server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of ARP every 60 seconds 
or so when those servers don't exist anymore. 


It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get them clean. 


Put up a real server / vm, associate devices, and be done with it. Linux works 
best (by far). 


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



this was just a test install of ac2, if i reinstall on another machine and kill 
this one, what do i need to do to control the devices from that? 




On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 




nothing monitors toughswitches. not really. 


kill them with fire anyway 




On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



thats what i did, didnt find anything 


just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is hanging 
now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-) 




On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling < tyfeatherl...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and just type 
in subnets like so " 10.10.5.0/24 , 10.11.5.0/24 , " and so on. 








-Ty 

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add anything. I 
have to manually add the device 


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling < tyfeatherl...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 





I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about running a 
ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have monitoring of 
all radios from the start. 



On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration. UBNT and 
beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck M must have 
overseen it since it actually works 




On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



is the windows server variant heavy? 




On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



nm, i see it now 




On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



can you point me to where i would get it 






On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling < tyfeatherl...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed upgrade from 
my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates, password changes, and 
a set number of other configuration changes. The only 2 things I wish it did 
that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing bridge tables for devices. 
Great tool for everything else. I installed the local beta of the new CRM thing 
and It seems like it barely does anything by comparison. If you go the the 
forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the first sticky post is the latest 
version. 


-Ty 








-Ty 

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the firmware, I 
assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most current iteration 
of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of wandering too much on 
the forum looking. 


Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add some 
settings, if there is a fairly 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Josh Reynolds]

That only clears out the current monitoring session AFAIK, it doesn't
remove entries from previous aircontrol or aircontrol2 server instances. I
created a script to do this previously that took a flat file ip list input.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Jesse DuPont  wrote:

> In the AC2 client connected to your test server, right-click each
> monitored device, choose Stop Monitoring. After that, right-click each one
> and choose Remove.
>
> *Jesse DuPont*
>
> Network Architect
> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
> Celerity Networks LLC
>
> Celerity Broadband LLC
> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>
> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
> On 5/17/16 5:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> whats the method to clear these ones out effectively
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> HNNNGGG don't do that.
>>
>> Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you
>> managed devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to that
>> aircontrol server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of ARP
>> every 60 seconds or so when those servers don't exist anymore.
>>
>> It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get them
>> clean.
>>
>> Put up a real server / vm, associate devices, and be done with it. Linux
>> works best (by far).​
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> this was just a test install of ac2, if i reinstall on another machine
>>> and kill this one, what do i need to do to control the devices from that?
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 nothing monitors toughswitches. not really.

 kill them with fire anyway

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thats what i did, didnt find anything
>
> just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is
> hanging now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-)
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling <
> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and
>> just type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and so
>> on.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add
>>> anything. I have to manually add the device
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <
>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
 running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I 
 have
 monitoring of all radios from the start.
 On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple
> configuration. UBNT and beta together always scares me, but this is a 
> slick
> tool. Chuck M must have overseen it since it actually works
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is the windows server variant heavy?
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> nm, i see it now
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 can you point me to where i would get it


 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a
> failed upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass 
> firmware
> updates, password changes, and a set number of other 
> configuration changes.
> The only 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall 
> updates and
> viewing bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything 
> else. I
> installed the local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like 
> it barely
> does anything by comparison. If you go the the forums and find 
> the AC2 beta
> forum, the first sticky 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Josh Reynolds]

search the archives. this has been discussed before

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> whats the method to clear these ones out effectively
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> HNNNGGG don't do that.
>>
>> Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you
>> managed devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to that
>> aircontrol server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of ARP
>> every 60 seconds or so when those servers don't exist anymore.
>>
>> It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get them
>> clean.
>>
>> Put up a real server / vm, associate devices, and be done with it. Linux
>> works best (by far).​
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> this was just a test install of ac2, if i reinstall on another machine
>>> and kill this one, what do i need to do to control the devices from that?
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 nothing monitors toughswitches. not really.

 kill them with fire anyway

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thats what i did, didnt find anything
>
> just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is
> hanging now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-)
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling <
> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and
>> just type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and so
>> on.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add
>>> anything. I have to manually add the device
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <
>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
 running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I 
 have
 monitoring of all radios from the start.
 On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple
> configuration. UBNT and beta together always scares me, but this is a 
> slick
> tool. Chuck M must have overseen it since it actually works
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is the windows server variant heavy?
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> nm, i see it now
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 can you point me to where i would get it


 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a
> failed upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass 
> firmware
> updates, password changes, and a set number of other 
> configuration changes.
> The only 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall 
> updates and
> viewing bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything 
> else. I
> installed the local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like 
> it barely
> does anything by comparison. If you go the the forums and find 
> the AC2 beta
> forum, the first sticky post is the latest version.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of
>> the firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me 
>> to the
>> most current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im 
>> just fearful
>> of wandering too much on the forum looking.
>>
>> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change
>> and add some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing 
>> this
>> (preferably with error 

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[George Skorup]

Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(

On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in the past. 
Is this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a need.

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

whats the method to clear these ones out effectively


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> HNNNGGG don't do that.
>
> Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you managed
> devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to that aircontrol
> server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of ARP every 60
> seconds or so when those servers don't exist anymore.
>
> It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get them
> clean.
>
> Put up a real server / vm, associate devices, and be done with it. Linux
> works best (by far).​
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> this was just a test install of ac2, if i reinstall on another machine
>> and kill this one, what do i need to do to control the devices from that?
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> nothing monitors toughswitches. not really.
>>>
>>> kill them with fire anyway
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 thats what i did, didnt find anything

 just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is
 hanging now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-)

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling <
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and
> just type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and so
> on.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add
>> anything. I have to manually add the device
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <
>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
>>> running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I 
>>> have
>>> monitoring of all radios from the start.
>>> On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration.
 UBNT and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. 
 Chuck M
 must have overseen it since it actually works

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> is the windows server variant heavy?
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> nm, i see it now
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> can you point me to where i would get it
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a
 failed upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass 
 firmware
 updates, password changes, and a set number of other configuration 
 changes.
 The only 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall 
 updates and
 viewing bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. 
 I
 installed the local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it 
 barely
 does anything by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the 
 AC2 beta
 forum, the first sticky post is the latest version.

 -Ty



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of
> the firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me 
> to the
> most current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im 
> just fearful
> of wandering too much on the forum looking.
>
> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change
> and add some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing 
> this
> (preferably with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I 
> would
> sure appreciate some pointers (that dont assume I am a script 
> magician)
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <
> 

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Sean Heskett]

my point is that gold has WAY more value to the world economy as a metal
than it does as a way to back a currency.  if you use it to back a currency
then you immediately limit the size of your economy.



On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> I think you misunderstand how commodities work. But ok. About the only
> thing the gold standard did was restrict monetary policy and lock
> inflation. If course, i could be wrong as i haven't goggles the subject.
> That is my offline brains opinion.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 3:45 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a good thing
>> because with an $18trillion GDP for just the US alone there is no way
>> our current economy would operate being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone
>> in your pocket would cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it
>> :-/
>>
>> Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a
>>> fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.
>>>
>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That is s sad

>>>
 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Who care about P?  It's stocks.
>
> AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
> correlation between stocks and how the company operates.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess
>> where those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although 
>> to
>> tell the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock 
>> for
>> a long time.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
> ...you mean like AAPL?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman <
>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
 this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
 nifty
 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.

>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
 wrote:

>>> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick
> and then it plummeted. L
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay
> Fuller
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
>
>
> oh, i know i don't matter...
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Robert
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
> Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
> don't matter...
>
>
>
> On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
> I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple
> yesterday
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the
> possibility
> of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
> right
> now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the
> next six
> months. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Lewis Bergman]

I think you misunderstand how commodities work. But ok. About the only
thing the gold standard did was restrict monetary policy and lock
inflation. If course, i could be wrong as i haven't goggles the subject.
That is my offline brains opinion.

On Tue, May 17, 2016, 3:45 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a good thing
> because with an $18trillion GDP for just the US alone there is no way our
> current economy would operate being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone
> in your pocket would cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it
> :-/
>
> Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a
>> fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.
>>
> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That is s sad
>>>
>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Who care about P?  It's stocks.

 AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
 correlation between stocks and how the company operates.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess
> where those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although 
> to
> tell the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for
> a long time.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
 ...you mean like AAPL?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman <
>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
>>> this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
>>> nifty
>>> 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
>>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick
 and then it plummeted. L



 Chris Wright

 Network Administrator

 Velociter Wireless

 209-838-1221 x115



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay
 Fuller
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com


 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock





 oh, i know i don't matter...



 - Original Message -

 *From:* Robert

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock



 Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
 don't matter...



 On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

 I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday





 - Original Message -

 *From:* Travis Johnson

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM

 *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock



 Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the
 possibility
 of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
 right
 now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the
 next six
 months. :)

 Travis

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Chuck McCown]

Yes, it does not oxidize and it does not suffer from work hardening/cracking

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

good point chuck, i should have researched that before commenting.  i guess 
it's used in electronics because it doesn't oxidize like the other metals??  

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Silver has it beat for conductivity.   


  Carbon (graphene form only)
  Silver
  Copper
  Gold 
  Aluminum
  Calcium
  Tungsten
  Zinc
  Nickel 
  Lithium
  Iron
  etc 

  From: Sean Heskett 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:37 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

  Exactly my point Cameron ;-)

  Before Nixon
  1oz gold == $35US or inversely $1 == 1/35oz gold...seems pretty standard to 
me.   

  Also your own quote states "The government held the $35 per ounce price until 
August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the United States 
would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely 
abandoning the gold standard."

  After Nixon
  Gold and the dollar float.  Gold is now traded as a commodity as it should.  
Otherwise the world economy is tied to a very finite amount (183,600 tonnes) of 
a shiny rock whose real value is it's chemical element properties. It is the 
best (naturally occurring) conductor of electricity and the best reflector of 
infrared heat (amongst many other properties).  

  1/256,280oz gold (2 cents at todays prices ;)

  -Sean


  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

Not sure what history books you are reading, but On June 5, 1933, the 
United States went off the gold standard, a monetary system in which currency 
is backed by gold, when Congress enacted a joint resolution nullifying the 
right of creditors to demand payment in gold. The United States had been on a 
gold standard since 1879, except for an embargo on gold exports during World 
War I, but bank failures during the Great Depression of the 1930s frightened 
the public into hoarding gold, making the policy untenable. 


The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15, 1971, when 
President Richard Nixon announced that the United States would no longer 
convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely abandoning the gold 
standard. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation that permitted 
Americans again to own gold bullion.


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

  Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a good thing 
because with an $18trillion GDP for just the US alone there is no way our 
current economy would operate being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone in your 
pocket would cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it :-/ 

  Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.


  -Sean


  On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a 
fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR. 


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

  That is s sad

  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

Who care about P?  It's stocks. 

AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real 
correlation between stocks and how the company operates.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

  Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess 
where those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to 
tell the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a 
long time. 



  On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

...you mean like AAPL?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

  Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing 
play at this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
nifty 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
 wrote:

I sure hope it goes back to 

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Sean Heskett]

good point chuck, i should have researched that before commenting.  i guess
it's used in electronics because it doesn't oxidize like the other metals??


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Silver has it beat for conductivity.
>
>
> Carbon (graphene form only)
> Silver
> Copper
> Gold
> Aluminum
> Calcium
> Tungsten
> Zinc
> Nickel
> Lithium
> Iron
> etc
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
> Exactly my point Cameron ;-)
>
> Before Nixon
> 1oz gold == $35US or inversely $1 == 1/35oz gold...seems pretty standard
> to me.
>
> Also your own quote states "The government held the $35 per ounce price
> until August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the
> United States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, *thus
> completely abandoning the gold standard*."
>
> After Nixon
> Gold and the dollar float.  Gold is now traded as a commodity as it
> should.  Otherwise the world economy is tied to a very finite amount
> (183,600 tonnes) of a shiny rock whose real value is it's chemical element
> properties. It is the best (naturally occurring) conductor of electricity
> and the best reflector of infrared heat (amongst many other properties).
>
> 1/256,280oz gold (2 cents at todays prices ;)
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Cameron Crum  wrote:
>
>> Not sure what history books you are reading, but On June 5, 1933, the
>> United States went off the gold standard, a monetary system in which
>> currency is backed by gold, when Congress enacted a joint resolution
>> nullifying the right of creditors to demand payment in gold. The United
>> States had been on a gold standard since 1879, except for an embargo on
>> gold exports during World War I, but bank failures during the Great
>> Depression of the 1930s frightened the public into hoarding gold, making
>> the policy untenable.
>>
>> The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15, 1971, when
>> President Richard Nixon announced that the United States would no longer
>> convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely abandoning the
>> gold standard. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation that
>> permitted Americans again to own gold bullion.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a good thing
>>> because with an $18trillion GDP for just the US alone there is no way
>>> our current economy would operate being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone
>>> in your pocket would cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it
>>> :-/
>>>
>>> Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a
 fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> That is s sad
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Who care about P?  It's stocks.
>>
>> AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
>> correlation between stocks and how the company operates.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman <
>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess
>>> where those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P 
>>> Although to
>>> tell the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock 
>>> for
>>> a long time.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>> ...you mean like AAPL?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman <
 lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
> this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
> nifty
> 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
>
 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
> wrote:
>
 I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Chuck McCown]

Silver has it beat for conductivity.   


Carbon (graphene form only)
Silver
Copper
Gold 
Aluminum
Calcium
Tungsten
Zinc
Nickel 
Lithium
Iron
etc 

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

Exactly my point Cameron ;-)

Before Nixon
1oz gold == $35US or inversely $1 == 1/35oz gold...seems pretty standard to me. 
  

Also your own quote states "The government held the $35 per ounce price until 
August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the United States 
would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely 
abandoning the gold standard."

After Nixon
Gold and the dollar float.  Gold is now traded as a commodity as it should.  
Otherwise the world economy is tied to a very finite amount (183,600 tonnes) of 
a shiny rock whose real value is it's chemical element properties. It is the 
best (naturally occurring) conductor of electricity and the best reflector of 
infrared heat (amongst many other properties).  

1/256,280oz gold (2 cents at todays prices ;)

-Sean


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

  Not sure what history books you are reading, but On June 5, 1933, the United 
States went off the gold standard, a monetary system in which currency is 
backed by gold, when Congress enacted a joint resolution nullifying the right 
of creditors to demand payment in gold. The United States had been on a gold 
standard since 1879, except for an embargo on gold exports during World War I, 
but bank failures during the Great Depression of the 1930s frightened the 
public into hoarding gold, making the policy untenable. 


  The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15, 1971, when 
President Richard Nixon announced that the United States would no longer 
convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely abandoning the gold 
standard. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation that permitted 
Americans again to own gold bullion.


  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a good thing because 
with an $18trillion GDP for just the US alone there is no way our current 
economy would operate being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone in your pocket 
would cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it :-/ 

Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.


-Sean


On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman  wrote:

  You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a 
fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR. 


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman  
wrote:

That is s sad

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  Who care about P?  It's stocks. 

  AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real 
correlation between stocks and how the company operates.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess 
where those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to 
tell the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a 
long time. 



On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  ...you mean like AAPL?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play 
at this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really nifty 
360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
 wrote:

  I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its 
uptick and then it plummeted. L



  Chris Wright

  Network Administrator

  Velociter Wireless

  209-838-1221 x115



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay 
Fuller
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
  To: af@afmug.com


  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock





  oh, i know i don't matter...



- Original Message 

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Sean Heskett]

Exactly my point Cameron ;-)

Before Nixon
1oz gold == $35US or inversely $1 == 1/35oz gold...seems pretty standard to
me.

Also your own quote states "The government held the $35 per ounce price
until August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the
United States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, *thus
completely abandoning the gold standard*."

After Nixon
Gold and the dollar float.  Gold is now traded as a commodity as it
should.  Otherwise the world economy is tied to a very finite amount
(183,600 tonnes) of a shiny rock whose real value is it's chemical element
properties. It is the best (naturally occurring) conductor of electricity
and the best reflector of infrared heat (amongst many other properties).

1/256,280oz gold (2 cents at todays prices ;)

-Sean


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> Not sure what history books you are reading, but On June 5, 1933, the
> United States went off the gold standard, a monetary system in which
> currency is backed by gold, when Congress enacted a joint resolution
> nullifying the right of creditors to demand payment in gold. The United
> States had been on a gold standard since 1879, except for an embargo on
> gold exports during World War I, but bank failures during the Great
> Depression of the 1930s frightened the public into hoarding gold, making
> the policy untenable.
>
> The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15, 1971, when
> President Richard Nixon announced that the United States would no longer
> convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely abandoning the
> gold standard. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation that
> permitted Americans again to own gold bullion.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a good thing
>> because with an $18trillion GDP for just the US alone there is no way
>> our current economy would operate being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone
>> in your pocket would cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it
>> :-/
>>
>> Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a
>>> fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That is s sad

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Who care about P?  It's stocks.
>
> AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
> correlation between stocks and how the company operates.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess
>> where those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although 
>> to
>> tell the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock 
>> for
>> a long time.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
> ...you mean like AAPL?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman <
>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
 this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
 nifty
 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.

>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
 wrote:

>>> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick
> and then it plummeted. L
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay
> Fuller
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
>
>
> oh, i know i don't matter...
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Robert
>
> 

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Mike Hammett]

At this point, crypto currencies are only useful for pump and dump. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:40:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock 




So what. Ever hear of bitcoin? Fiat money is a tool to facilitate commerce. 




From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:14 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock 


You think that's bad? The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a fictitious 
system controlled by private banks. Thanks, FDR. 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



That is s sad 


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Who care about P? It's stocks. 

AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there. There is no real correlation 
between stocks and how the company operates. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 





Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where those 
types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell the truth, 
it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a long time. 








On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 










...you mean like AAPL? 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 







Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at this point, 
I saw some film of some competitors product with a really nifty 360 camera for 
about half of a Hero3. 









On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright < ch...@velociter.net > wrote: 














I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick and then it 
plummeted. L 


Chris Wright 
Network Administrator 
Velociter Wireless 
209-838-1221 x115 



From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 





Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock 






oh, i know i don't matter... 





- Original Message - 

From: Robert 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock 


Just after Icann sold a billion... just to make sure you know you don't 
matter... 


On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: 



I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday 







- Original Message - 

From: Travis Johnson 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM 

Subject: [AFMUG] GPRO stock 


Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility 
of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right 
now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six 
months. :) 

Travis 

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Josh Luthman]

I'd rather have a neutral currency than something controlled by a few
bankers.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> So what.  Ever hear of bitcoin?  Fiat money is a tool to facilitate
> commerce.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
> You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a
> fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> That is s sad
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Who care about P?  It's stocks.
>>>
>>> AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
>>> correlation between stocks and how the company operates.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where
 those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell
 the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a
 long time.

 On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

>>> ...you mean like AAPL?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
>> this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
>> nifty
>> 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
>>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
>> wrote:
>>
> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick
>>> and then it plummeted. L
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>
>>> 209-838-1221 x115 <209-838-1221%20x115>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay
>>> Fuller
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> oh, i know i don't matter...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* Robert 
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
>>> don't matter...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson 
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the
>>> possibility
>>> of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
>>> right
>>> now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next
>>> six
>>> months. :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Cameron Crum]

Not sure what history books you are reading, but On June 5, 1933, the
United States went off the gold standard, a monetary system in which
currency is backed by gold, when Congress enacted a joint resolution
nullifying the right of creditors to demand payment in gold. The United
States had been on a gold standard since 1879, except for an embargo on
gold exports during World War I, but bank failures during the Great
Depression of the 1930s frightened the public into hoarding gold, making
the policy untenable.

The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15, 1971, when
President Richard Nixon announced that the United States would no longer
convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely abandoning the
gold standard. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation that
permitted Americans again to own gold bullion.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a good thing
> because with an $18trillion GDP for just the US alone there is no way our
> current economy would operate being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone
> in your pocket would cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it
> :-/
>
> Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a
>> fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That is s sad
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Who care about P?  It's stocks.

 AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
 correlation between stocks and how the company operates.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess
> where those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although 
> to
> tell the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for
> a long time.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
 ...you mean like AAPL?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman <
>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
>>> this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
>>> nifty
>>> 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
>>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick
 and then it plummeted. L



 Chris Wright

 Network Administrator

 Velociter Wireless

 209-838-1221 x115



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay
 Fuller
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com


 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock





 oh, i know i don't matter...



 - Original Message -

 *From:* Robert

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock



 Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
 don't matter...



 On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

 I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday





 - Original Message -

 *From:* Travis Johnson

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM

 *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock



 Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the
 possibility
 of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
 right
 now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the
 next six
 months. :)

 Travis

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Sean Heskett]

Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a good thing because
with an $18trillion GDP for just the US alone there is no way our current
economy would operate being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone in your
pocket would cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it :-/

Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.

-Sean


On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman  wrote:

> You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a
> fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman  > wrote:
>
>> That is s sad
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman > > wrote:
>>
>>> Who care about P?  It's stocks.
>>>
>>> AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
>>> correlation between stocks and how the company operates.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman >> > wrote:
>>>
 Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where
 those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell
 the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a
 long time.

 On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman > wrote:

>>> ...you mean like AAPL?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
>> this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
>> nifty
>> 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
>>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright > > wrote:
>>
> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick
>>> and then it plummeted. L
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>
>>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>> ] *On Behalf
>>> Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> oh, i know i don't matter...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* Robert
>>> 
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
>>> don't matter...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson
>>> 
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the
>>> possibility
>>> of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
>>> right
>>> now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next
>>> six
>>> months. :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Josh Reynolds]

Yet he just bought in to Apple for $1Bn...

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
> I think it is all bad. See Warren Buffet's explanation on why we shouldn't
> be pimping ourselves out to (insert foreign country here).
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>>
>> You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a
>> fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That is s sad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman
>>>  wrote:

 Who care about P?  It's stocks.

 AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
 correlation between stocks and how the company operates.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:
>
> Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where
> those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell
> the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a 
> long
> time.
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman
>  wrote:
>>
>> ...you mean like AAPL?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
>>> this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
>>> nifty
>>> 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
>>> wrote:

 I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick
 and then it plummeted. L



 Chris Wright

 Network Administrator

 Velociter Wireless

 209-838-1221 x115



 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
 Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
 To: af@afmug.com


 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock





 oh, i know i don't matter...



 - Original Message -

 From: Robert

 To: af@afmug.com

 Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM

 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock



 Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
 don't matter...



 On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

 I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday





 - Original Message -

 From: Travis Johnson

 To: af@afmug.com

 Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM

 Subject: [AFMUG] GPRO stock



 Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the
 possibility
 of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
 right
 now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next
 six
 months. :)

 Travis

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Chuck McCown]

So what.  Ever hear of bitcoin?  Fiat money is a tool to facilitate commerce.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a fictitious 
system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR. 


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

  That is s sad

  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Who care about P?  It's stocks. 

AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real 
correlation between stocks and how the company operates.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman  
wrote:

  Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where 
those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell the 
truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a long time. 



  On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman  
wrote:

...you mean like AAPL?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

  Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at 
this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really nifty 360 
camera for about half of a Hero3.
  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright  
wrote:

I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick 
and then it plummeted. L



Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock





oh, i know i don't matter...



  - Original Message - 

  From: Robert 

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock



  Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know 
you don't matter...



  On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple 
yesterday





  - Original Message - 

  From: Travis Johnson 

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM

  Subject: [AFMUG] GPRO stock



  Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the 
possibility 
  of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great 
buy right 
  now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within 
the next six 
  months. :)

  Travis

[AFMUG] Anyone has AF24 in stock and can ship today?

[Gino Villarini]

need 4 units asap

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Lewis Bergman]

I think it is all bad. See Warren Buffet's explanation on why we shouldn't
be pimping ourselves out to (insert foreign country here).

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a
> fictitious system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> That is s sad
>>
>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Who care about P?  It's stocks.
>>>
>>> AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
>>> correlation between stocks and how the company operates.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where
 those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell
 the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a
 long time.

 On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

>>> ...you mean like AAPL?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
>> this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
>> nifty
>> 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
>>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
>> wrote:
>>
> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick
>>> and then it plummeted. L
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>
>>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay
>>> Fuller
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> oh, i know i don't matter...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* Robert 
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
>>> don't matter...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson 
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the
>>> possibility
>>> of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
>>> right
>>> now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next
>>> six
>>> months. :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[Seth Mattinen]

On 5/17/16 13:12, Josh Luthman wrote:

Verizon's is called HomeFusion.  I think their website is being fed by
one of the products because it's not loading completely.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/homefusion.jsp



It's this now:
https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/lte-internet-installed/

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Josh Luthman]

You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but rather a fictitious
system controlled by private banks.  Thanks, FDR.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> That is s sad
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Who care about P?  It's stocks.
>>
>> AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
>> correlation between stocks and how the company operates.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where
>>> those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell
>>> the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a
>>> long time.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> ...you mean like AAPL?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at
> this point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really 
> nifty
> 360 camera for about half of a Hero3.
>
 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
> wrote:
>
 I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick and
>> then it plummeted. L
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Wright
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> Velociter Wireless
>>
>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay
>> Fuller
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> oh, i know i don't matter...
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* Robert 
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>
>>
>>
>> Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
>> don't matter...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>
>> I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* Travis Johnson 
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the
>> possibility
>> of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
>> right
>> now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next
>> six
>> months. :)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[Josh Luthman]

Verizon's is called HomeFusion.  I think their website is being fed by one
of the products because it's not loading completely.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/homefusion.jsp


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Verizon has, or had, an LTE fixed solution a few years ago. I am pretty
> sure it was depply discussed on this list. It was UBB at around 10G for
> $100 if memory serves. ATT will likely try to be in the same ballpark.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:54 PM David  wrote:
>
>> Thanks guys, now I know my conscience wasnt lying to me :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/17/2016 02:50 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>> "unlimited" to a big ISP/cellco means throttling after some finite cap.
>> They are greedy shitbags.
>>
>> On 5/17/2016 2:32 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>
>> Since it will likely be licensed, it is unlikely to be unlimited IMO.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Very curious to see what their pricing is going to be on fixed and
>>> weather or not its UBB or unlimited.
>>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>> Verizon did the same thing around here several years ago with similar
 results.

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> They tried wireless in Dallas called Project Angel long time ago.
> Didn't work out
> On May 17, 2016 1:17 PM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:
>
>> On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like ATT now wants to be a WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a
>>> Satellite
>>> provider all rolled up into one.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897
>>>
>>>
>> Jack of all trades, master of none.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Lewis Bergman]

That is s sad

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Who care about P?  It's stocks.
>
> AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
> correlation between stocks and how the company operates.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where
>> those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell
>> the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a
>> long time.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
> ...you mean like AAPL?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at this
 point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really nifty 360
 camera for about half of a Hero3.

>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright 
 wrote:

>>> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick and
> then it plummeted. L
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay
> Fuller
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
>
>
> oh, i know i don't matter...
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Robert 
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
> Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
> don't matter...
>
>
>
> On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
> I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson 
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility
> of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
> right
> now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next
> six
> months. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[Lewis Bergman]

Verizon has, or had, an LTE fixed solution a few years ago. I am pretty
sure it was depply discussed on this list. It was UBB at around 10G for
$100 if memory serves. ATT will likely try to be in the same ballpark.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:54 PM David  wrote:

> Thanks guys, now I know my conscience wasnt lying to me :)
>
>
>
> On 05/17/2016 02:50 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>
> "unlimited" to a big ISP/cellco means throttling after some finite cap.
> They are greedy shitbags.
>
> On 5/17/2016 2:32 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> Since it will likely be licensed, it is unlikely to be unlimited IMO.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
> Very curious to see what their pricing is going to be on fixed and weather
>> or not its UBB or unlimited.
>>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
> Verizon did the same thing around here several years ago with similar
>>> results.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 They tried wireless in Dallas called Project Angel long time ago.
 Didn't work out
 On May 17, 2016 1:17 PM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:

> On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:
>
>> Looks like ATT now wants to be a WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a Satellite
>> provider all rolled up into one.
>>
>>
>> http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897
>>
>>
> Jack of all trades, master of none.
>
> ~Seth
>

>>>

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[David]

Thanks guys, now I know my conscience wasnt lying to me :)


On 05/17/2016 02:50 PM, George Skorup wrote:
"unlimited" to a big ISP/cellco means throttling after some finite 
cap. They are greedy shitbags.


On 5/17/2016 2:32 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Since it will likely be licensed, it is unlikely to be unlimited IMO.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:


Very curious to see what their pricing is going to be on fixed
and weather or not its UBB or unlimited.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jason McKemie
 wrote:

Verizon did the same thing around here several years ago with
similar results.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

They tried wireless in Dallas called Project Angel long
time ago.  Didn't work out

On May 17, 2016 1:17 PM, "Seth Mattinen"
> wrote:

On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:

Looks like ATT now wants to be a
WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a Satellite
provider all rolled up into one.


http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897


Jack of all trades, master of none.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[George Skorup]

"unlimited" to a big ISP/cellco means throttling after some finite cap. 
They are greedy shitbags.


On 5/17/2016 2:32 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Since it will likely be licensed, it is unlikely to be unlimited IMO.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:


Very curious to see what their pricing is going to be on fixed and
weather or not its UBB or unlimited.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jason McKemie
> wrote:

Verizon did the same thing around here several years ago with
similar results.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Jaime Solorza
>
wrote:

They tried wireless in Dallas called Project Angel long
time ago. Didn't work out

On May 17, 2016 1:17 PM, "Seth Mattinen"
> wrote:

On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:

Looks like ATT now wants to be a
WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a Satellite
provider all rolled up into one.


http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897


Jack of all trades, master of none.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[Jason McKemie]

Since it will likely be licensed, it is unlikely to be unlimited IMO.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Very curious to see what their pricing is going to be on fixed and weather
> or not its UBB or unlimited.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Verizon did the same thing around here several years ago with similar
>> results.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote:
>>
>>> They tried wireless in Dallas called Project Angel long time ago.
>>> Didn't work out
>>> On May 17, 2016 1:17 PM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:
>>>
 On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:

> Looks like ATT now wants to be a WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a Satellite
> provider all rolled up into one.
>
>
> http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897
>
>
 Jack of all trades, master of none.

 ~Seth

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Very curious to see what their pricing is going to be on fixed and weather
or not its UBB or unlimited.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Verizon did the same thing around here several years ago with similar
> results.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> They tried wireless in Dallas called Project Angel long time ago.  Didn't
>> work out
>> On May 17, 2016 1:17 PM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:
>>>
 Looks like ATT now wants to be a WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a Satellite
 provider all rolled up into one.


 http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897


>>> Jack of all trades, master of none.
>>>
>>> ~Seth
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Josh Luthman]

Who care about P?  It's stocks.

AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.  There is no real
correlation between stocks and how the company operates.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where
> those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell
> the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a
> long time.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> ...you mean like AAPL?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at this
>>> point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really nifty 360
>>> camera for about half of a Hero3.
>>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright  wrote:
>>>
>> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick and
 then it plummeted. L



 Chris Wright

 Network Administrator

 Velociter Wireless

 209-838-1221 x115



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay
 Fuller
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com


 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock





 oh, i know i don't matter...



 - Original Message -

 *From:* Robert 

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock



 Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you
 don't matter...



 On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

 I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday





 - Original Message -

 *From:* Travis Johnson 

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM

 *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock



 Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility
 of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right
 now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next
 six
 months. :)

 Travis

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[Jason McKemie]

Verizon did the same thing around here several years ago with similar
results.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> They tried wireless in Dallas called Project Angel long time ago.  Didn't
> work out
> On May 17, 2016 1:17 PM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:
>
>> On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like ATT now wants to be a WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a Satellite
>>> provider all rolled up into one.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897
>>>
>>>
>> Jack of all trades, master of none.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[Jaime Solorza]

They tried wireless in Dallas called Project Angel long time ago.  Didn't
work out
On May 17, 2016 1:17 PM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:

> On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:
>
>> Looks like ATT now wants to be a WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a Satellite
>> provider all rolled up into one.
>>
>>
>> http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897
>>
>>
> Jack of all trades, master of none.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Lewis Bergman]

Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous. You can't ever guess where
those types will go by looking at balance sheets and P Although to tell
the truth, it had been pretty difficult to do that with any stock for a
long time.

On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> ...you mean like AAPL?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at this
>> point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really nifty 360
>> camera for about half of a Hero3.
>>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright  wrote:
>>
> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick and
>>> then it plummeted. L
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>
>>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> oh, i know i don't matter...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* Robert 
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you don't
>>> matter...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson 
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility
>>> of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right
>>> now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six
>>> months. :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[Seth Mattinen]

On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:

Looks like ATT now wants to be a WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a Satellite
provider all rolled up into one.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897



Jack of all trades, master of none.

~Seth

[AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[David]

Looks like ATT now wants to be a WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a Satellite 
provider all rolled up into one.


http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897 




--

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Josh Luthman]

...you mean like AAPL?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at this
> point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really nifty 360
> camera for about half of a Hero3.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright  wrote:
>
>> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick and
>> then it plummeted. L
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Wright
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> Velociter Wireless
>>
>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> oh, i know i don't matter...
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* Robert 
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>
>>
>>
>> Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you don't
>> matter...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>
>> I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* Travis Johnson 
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility
>> of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right
>> now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six
>> months. :)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Lewis Bergman]

Not that it matters, as I think GPRO is mostly a marketing play at this
point, I saw some film of some competitors product with a really nifty 360
camera for about half of a Hero3.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM Chris Wright  wrote:

> I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick and
> then it plummeted. L
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
>
>
> oh, i know i don't matter...
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Robert 
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
> Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you don't
> matter...
>
>
>
> On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
> I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson 
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>
>
>
> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility
> of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right
> now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six
> months. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik

[Josh Reynolds]

LOL is more fun, although the strategic importance of creep deny is missed.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Chris Wright  wrote:
> 10 years of DotA has helped me learn more Spanish than any high school class
> ever did. And Russian.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:37 AM
> To: Animal Farm
>
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik
>
>
>
> Yep...but most would just say "mierda" in disgust
>
> On May 16, 2016 5:27 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>
> pedazo de mierda is more accurate
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> Woah there are kids here, watch the language! ;)
>
> On May 15, 2016 10:41 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>
> Orale
>
> On May 15, 2016 9:36 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:
>
> hehe.. yes I know.. I guess these are the nuances between Cuban Spanish /
> Puerto Rican Spanish and Mexican Spanish...
>
> There was another Cuban Spanish phrase I could have used, but it would not
> have been appropriate for the list :)
>
>
>
> All of them are terms of endearment !  (not ! )
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:08:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik
>
> Carefulcomo...can also be " I eat" ...here is a better
> translation... "mikrotik vale madre.."
>
> On May 15, 2016 8:53 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:
>
> loose translation  'como mierada'  !
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 10:36:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik
>
> ...mikrotik POS?  Piece of Salmon, point of sale,  phaser on stun???
>
> On May 15, 2016 7:34 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>
> faisal, thanks.  I read this today, but we already fixed the issue by
> replacing the mikrotik POS with a Juniper SRX100 unit... problem solved!
>
> Thanks to all!
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
> Which model CCR are you using ?
>
> Pay attention to the ports you are using on that CCR due to how they are
> connected to the switch chip/CPU.
>
> e.g. on CCR 1008, don't use the 1st 4 ports (they are all on a switch chip
> with a 1g connection to the CPU, so with nat the packets can be hitting the
> CPU multiple times...
>
>
>
> if that does not work... then ..Just for kicks try the following:-
>
>
>
> Do the tests with one change at a time.
>
> 
>
> make sure you are on the latest 6.35.2 ROS and routerboard firmware is up to
> date.
>
>
>
> 1) Turn off connection tracking.
>
>
>
> 2) change the  interface queue to multi-queue- ethernet  (reboot required)
>
>
>
> 3) make sure flow control on the ports to the Radio are on.
>
>
>
> 4) put a simple queue for the desired BW on the CCR.
>
> ---
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:01:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik
>
> yes,  using fiber, same issue
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 4:35 PM, can...@believewireless.net
>  wrote:
>
> Did you check for duplex mismatch?
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
> laptop direct to mimosa has no issue
>
> Get Outlook for iOS
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:47 PM -0700, "Jason Wilson"
>  wrote:
>
> Rory had that issue with SME if the mimosa ptmp the CPU in the laptop was
> maxing out.
>
> On May 12, 2016 11:39 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Wiki/Fasttrack#Description
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>> I don't know much about the CCRs. Do they have FastPath and FastTrack
>> enabled by default?
>>
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:33 PM, 

Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik

[Chris Wright]

10 years of DotA has helped me learn more Spanish than any high school class 
ever did. And Russian.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:37 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik


Yep...but most would just say "mierda" in disgust
On May 16, 2016 5:27 AM, "Gino Villarini" 
> wrote:
pedazo de mierda is more accurate

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:

Woah there are kids here, watch the language! ;)
On May 15, 2016 10:41 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:

Orale
On May 15, 2016 9:36 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
> wrote:
hehe.. yes I know.. I guess these are the nuances between Cuban Spanish / 
Puerto Rican Spanish and Mexican Spanish...
There was another Cuban Spanish phrase I could have used, but it would not have 
been appropriate for the list :)

All of them are terms of endearment !  (not ! )

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Jaime Solorza" 
>
To: "Animal Farm" >
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:08:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik

Carefulcomo...can also be " I eat" ...here is a better 
translation... "mikrotik vale madre.."
On May 15, 2016 8:53 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
> wrote:
loose translation  'como mierada'  !

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Jaime Solorza" 
>
To: "Animal Farm" >
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 10:36:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik

...mikrotik POS?  Piece of Salmon, point of sale,  phaser on stun???
On May 15, 2016 7:34 AM, "Gino Villarini" 
> wrote:
faisal, thanks.  I read this today, but we already fixed the issue by replacing 
the mikrotik POS with a Juniper SRX100 unit... problem solved!
Thanks to all!

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
Which model CCR are you using ?
Pay attention to the ports you are using on that CCR due to how they are 
connected to the switch chip/CPU.
e.g. on CCR 1008, don't use the 1st 4 ports (they are all on a switch chip with 
a 1g connection to the CPU, so with nat the packets can be hitting the CPU 
multiple times...

if that does not work... then ..Just for kicks try the following:-

Do the tests with one change at a time.

make sure you are on the latest 6.35.2 ROS and routerboard firmware is up to 
date.

1) Turn off connection tracking.

2) change the  interface queue to multi-queue- ethernet  (reboot required)

3) make sure flow control on the ports to the Radio are on.

4) put a simple queue for the desired BW on the CCR.
---

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Gino Villarini" >
To: "Animal Farm" >
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:01:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik
yes,  using fiber, same issue

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 4:35 PM, 
can...@believewireless.net 
> wrote:
Did you check for duplex mismatch?

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
laptop direct to mimosa has no issue
Get Outlook for iOS



On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:47 PM -0700, "Jason Wilson" 
> wrote:

Rory had that issue with SME if the mimosa ptmp the CPU in the laptop was 
maxing out.
On May 12, 2016 11:39 AM, "Josh Reynolds" 

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Chris Wright]

I sure hope it goes back to $15. I bought at $12 last on its uptick and then it 
plummeted. ☹

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock


oh, i know i don't matter...

- Original Message -
From: Robert
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock


Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you don't 
matter...

On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday


- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility
of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right
now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six
months. :)

Travis

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Josh Reynolds]

HNNNGGG don't do that.

Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you managed
devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to that aircontrol
server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of ARP every 60
seconds or so when those servers don't exist anymore.

It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get them clean.

Put up a real server / vm, associate devices, and be done with it. Linux
works best (by far).​

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> this was just a test install of ac2, if i reinstall on another machine and
> kill this one, what do i need to do to control the devices from that?
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> nothing monitors toughswitches. not really.
>>
>> kill them with fire anyway
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> thats what i did, didnt find anything
>>>
>>> just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is
>>> hanging now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling <
>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and
 just type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and so on.



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add
> anything. I have to manually add the device
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <
> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
>> running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have
>> monitoring of all radios from the start.
>> On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration.
>>> UBNT and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. 
>>> Chuck M
>>> must have overseen it since it actually works
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 is the windows server variant heavy?

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> nm, i see it now
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> can you point me to where i would get it
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a
>>> failed upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware
>>> updates, password changes, and a set number of other configuration 
>>> changes.
>>> The only 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall 
>>> updates and
>>> viewing bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I
>>> installed the local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it 
>>> barely
>>> does anything by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the 
>>> AC2 beta
>>> forum, the first sticky post is the latest version.
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 We need to do some mass password changes and verification of
 the firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me 
 to the
 most current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im 
 just fearful
 of wandering too much on the forum looking.

 Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change
 and add some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing 
 this
 (preferably with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I 
 would
 sure appreciate some pointers (that dont assume I am a script 
 magician)

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are
> ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>
> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with
> nail polish.
> On May 17, 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

this was just a test install of ac2, if i reinstall on another machine and
kill this one, what do i need to do to control the devices from that?

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> nothing monitors toughswitches. not really.
>
> kill them with fire anyway
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thats what i did, didnt find anything
>>
>> just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is
>> hanging now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-)
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling > > wrote:
>>
>>> Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and
>>> just type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and so on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add
 anything. I have to manually add the device

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
> running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have
> monitoring of all radios from the start.
> On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration.
>> UBNT and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck 
>> M
>> must have overseen it since it actually works
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> is the windows server variant heavy?
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 nm, i see it now

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> can you point me to where i would get it
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
>> upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware 
>> updates,
>> password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. 
>> The only
>> 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and 
>> viewing
>> bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I 
>> installed the
>> local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does 
>> anything
>> by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, 
>> the
>> first sticky post is the latest version.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
>>> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the 
>>> most
>>> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just 
>>> fearful of
>>> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>>>
>>> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and
>>> add some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this
>>> (preferably with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I 
>>> would
>>> sure appreciate some pointers (that dont assume I am a script 
>>> magician)
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <
>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>
 You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are
 ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.

 Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with
 nail polish.
 On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
 par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>
> hah
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ty Featherling 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically
> applied. The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit
> 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Josh Reynolds]

nothing monitors toughswitches. not really.

kill them with fire anyway

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thats what i did, didnt find anything
>
> just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is
> hanging now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-)
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
> wrote:
>
>> Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and
>> just type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and so on.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add
>>> anything. I have to manually add the device
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <
>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
 running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have
 monitoring of all radios from the start.
 On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration.
> UBNT and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck M
> must have overseen it since it actually works
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is the windows server variant heavy?
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> nm, i see it now
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 can you point me to where i would get it


 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
> upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates,
> password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. 
> The only
> 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and 
> viewing
> bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I 
> installed the
> local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does 
> anything
> by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, 
> the
> first sticky post is the latest version.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
>> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the 
>> most
>> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just 
>> fearful of
>> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>>
>> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and
>> add some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this
>> (preferably with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I 
>> would
>> sure appreciate some pointers (that dont assume I am a script 
>> magician)
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways,
>>> Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>>>
>>> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with
>>> nail polish.
>>> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>

 I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))

 hah



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Ty Featherling 
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

 We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically
 applied. The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit
 indescriminately.



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince <
 part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All your hate are belong to us.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

thats what i did, didnt find anything

just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is
hanging now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-)

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
wrote:

> Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and just
> type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and so on.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add anything.
>> I have to manually add the device
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling > > wrote:
>>
>>> I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
>>> running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have
>>> monitoring of all radios from the start.
>>> On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration.
 UBNT and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck M
 must have overseen it since it actually works

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> is the windows server variant heavy?
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> nm, i see it now
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> can you point me to where i would get it
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
 upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates,
 password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The 
 only
 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing
 bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed 
 the
 local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does 
 anything
 by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, 
 the
 first sticky post is the latest version.

 -Ty



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the 
> most
> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just 
> fearful of
> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>
> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and
> add some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this
> (preferably with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I 
> would
> sure appreciate some pointers (that dont assume I am a script 
> magician)
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways,
>> Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>>
>> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with
>> nail polish.
>> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>>>
>>> hah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically
>>> applied. The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit
>>> indescriminately.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince <
>>> part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 All your hate are belong to us.


 bp
 


 On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

 Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about
 our lack of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose 
 to
 reserve it for a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality 
 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and just
type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and so on.



-Ty

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add anything.
> I have to manually add the device
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling 
> wrote:
>
>> I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
>> running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have
>> monitoring of all radios from the start.
>> On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration. UBNT
>>> and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck M must
>>> have overseen it since it actually works
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 is the windows server variant heavy?

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> nm, i see it now
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> can you point me to where i would get it
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
>>> upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates,
>>> password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The 
>>> only
>>> 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing
>>> bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed 
>>> the
>>> local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does 
>>> anything
>>> by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the
>>> first sticky post is the latest version.
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
 firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the 
 most
 current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful 
 of
 wandering too much on the forum looking.

 Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and
 add some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this
 (preferably with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would
 sure appreciate some pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways,
> Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>
> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail
> polish.
> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>>
>> hah
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically
>> applied. The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit
>> indescriminately.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince > > wrote:
>>
>>> All your hate are belong to us.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about
>>> our lack of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to
>>> reserve it for a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality 
>>> hate
>>>
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much
>>> hate, you know that place is a hell-hole.
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add anything. I
have to manually add the device

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling 
wrote:

> I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
> running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have
> monitoring of all radios from the start.
> On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration. UBNT
>> and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck M must
>> have overseen it since it actually works
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> is the windows server variant heavy?
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 nm, i see it now

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> can you point me to where i would get it
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
>> upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates,
>> password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The 
>> only
>> 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing
>> bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed 
>> the
>> local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does anything
>> by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the
>> first sticky post is the latest version.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
>>> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most
>>> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful 
>>> of
>>> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>>>
>>> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add
>>> some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably
>>> with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure 
>>> appreciate
>>> some pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <
>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>
 You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways,
 Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.

 Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail
 polish.
 On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
 par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>
> hah
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ty Featherling 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically
> applied. The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit
> indescriminately.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince 
> wrote:
>
>> All your hate are belong to us.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our
>> lack of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to 
>> reserve it
>> for a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>>
>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much
>> hate, you know that place is a hell-hole.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of
>>> hate, now i remember why i dont ever go there
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about running
a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have
monitoring of all radios from the start.
On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration. UBNT
> and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck M must
> have overseen it since it actually works
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is the windows server variant heavy?
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> nm, i see it now
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 can you point me to where i would get it


 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
> upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates,
> password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The 
> only
> 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing
> bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed the
> local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does anything
> by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the
> first sticky post is the latest version.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
>> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most
>> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of
>> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>>
>> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add
>> some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably
>> with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure 
>> appreciate
>> some pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds > > wrote:
>>
>>> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways,
>>> Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>>>
>>> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail
>>> polish.
>>> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>

 I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))

 hah



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Ty Featherling 
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

 We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically
 applied. The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit
 indescriminately.



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince 
 wrote:

> All your hate are belong to us.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our
> lack of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to 
> reserve it
> for a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>
> *From:* Ty Featherling 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate,
> you know that place is a hell-hole.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of
>> hate, now i remember why i dont ever go there
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since
>>> i logged in, im curious what its doing
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration. UBNT
and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck M must
have overseen it since it actually works

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> is the windows server variant heavy?
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> nm, i see it now
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> can you point me to where i would get it
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
 upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates,
 password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The only
 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing
 bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed the
 local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does anything
 by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the
 first sticky post is the latest version.

 -Ty



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most
> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of
> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>
> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add
> some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably
> with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure 
> appreciate
> some pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways,
>> Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>>
>> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail
>> polish.
>> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>>>
>>> hah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically
>>> applied. The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit
>>> indescriminately.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 All your hate are belong to us.


 bp
 


 On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

 Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our
 lack of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to 
 reserve it
 for a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate

 *From:* Ty Featherling 
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

 When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate,
 you know that place is a hell-hole.

 -Ty



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of
> hate, now i remember why i dont ever go there
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since
>> i logged in, im curious what its doing
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard <
>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which
>>> case we'd be in trouble.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get
 beyond that 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

is the windows server variant heavy?

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> nm, i see it now
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> can you point me to where i would get it
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling > > wrote:
>>
>>> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
>>> upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates,
>>> password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The only
>>> 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing
>>> bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed the
>>> local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does anything
>>> by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the
>>> first sticky post is the latest version.
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
 firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most
 current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of
 wandering too much on the forum looking.

 Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add
 some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably
 with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure appreciate
 some pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude.
> You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>
> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail
> polish.
> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>>
>> hah
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically
>> applied. The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit
>> indescriminately.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All your hate are belong to us.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our
>>> lack of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to 
>>> reserve it
>>> for a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>>>
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate,
>>> you know that place is a hell-hole.
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate,
 now i remember why i dont ever go there

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i
> logged in, im curious what its doing
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard <
> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which
>> case we'd be in trouble.
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get
>>> beyond that customer's radio.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett <
>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
 Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something
 else...   ;-)



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

nm, i see it now

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> can you point me to where i would get it
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling 
> wrote:
>
>> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed upgrade
>> from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates, password
>> changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The only 2 things
>> I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing bridge
>> tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed the local
>> beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does anything by
>> comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the first
>> sticky post is the latest version.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
>>> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most
>>> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of
>>> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>>>
>>> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add
>>> some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably
>>> with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure appreciate
>>> some pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude.
 You don't wanna know about it, believe me.

 Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail
 polish.
 On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
 wrote:

>
> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>
> hah
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ty Featherling 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically applied.
> The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit 
> indescriminately.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince 
> wrote:
>
>> All your hate are belong to us.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our
>> lack of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve 
>> it
>> for a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>>
>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate,
>> you know that place is a hell-hole.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate,
>>> now i remember why i dont ever go there
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
 one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i
 logged in, im curious what its doing

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard <
 mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case
> we'd be in trouble.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get
>> beyond that customer's radio.
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett <
>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

can you point me to where i would get it


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling 
wrote:

> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed upgrade
> from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates, password
> changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The only 2 things
> I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing bridge
> tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed the local
> beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does anything by
> comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the first
> sticky post is the latest version.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
>> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most
>> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of
>> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>>
>> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add some
>> settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably with
>> error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure appreciate some
>> pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude.
>>> You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>>>
>>> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail
>>> polish.
>>> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))

 hah



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Ty Featherling 
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

 We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically applied.
 The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit indescriminately.



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince 
 wrote:

> All your hate are belong to us.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack
> of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it for
> a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>
> *From:* Ty Featherling 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you
> know that place is a hell-hole.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate,
>> now i remember why i dont ever go there
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i
>>> logged in, im curious what its doing
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case
 we'd be in trouble.

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
 mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get
> beyond that customer's radio.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett < 
> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed upgrade
from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates, password
changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The only 2 things
I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing bridge
tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed the local
beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does anything by
comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the first
sticky post is the latest version.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the firmware,
> I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most current
> iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of wandering
> too much on the forum looking.
>
> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add some
> settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably with
> error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure appreciate some
> pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude.
>> You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>>
>> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
>> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>>>
>>> hah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically applied.
>>> The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit indescriminately.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 All your hate are belong to us.


 bp
 


 On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

 Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack
 of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it for
 a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate

 *From:* Ty Featherling 
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

 When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you
 know that place is a hell-hole.

 -Ty



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate,
> now i remember why i dont ever go there
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i
>> logged in, im curious what its doing
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard <
>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case
>>> we'd be in trouble.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get
 beyond that customer's radio.

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett < 
 af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...
> ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Mathew Howard" < 
> mhoward...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"af" < 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the firmware,
I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most current
iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of wandering
too much on the forum looking.

Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add some
settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably with
error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure appreciate some
pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds 
wrote:

> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You
> don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>
> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>>
>> hah
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically applied.
>> The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit indescriminately.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> All your hate are belong to us.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack
>>> of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it for
>>> a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>>>
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you
>>> know that place is a hell-hole.
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now
 i remember why i dont ever go there

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i
> logged in, im curious what its doing
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard <
> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case
>> we'd be in trouble.
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get
>>> beyond that customer's radio.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett < 
>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
 Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...   ;-)



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 
 
 The Brothers WISP 
 


 
 --
 *From: *"Mathew Howard" < 
 mhoward...@gmail.com>
 *To: *"af" < af@afmug.com>
 *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

 If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking the
 management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're 
 probably
 fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I 
 haven't
 been able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately,
 when I was setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs 
 from
 outside our network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from
 being able to get to other customers radios as well... which should 
 break
 the self replicating part of this thing, so even if it 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Josh Reynolds]

You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You
don't wanna know about it, believe me.

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>
> hah
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ty Featherling 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically applied. The
> forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit indescriminately.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> All your hate are belong to us.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack of
>> hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it for a
>> better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>>
>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you
>> know that place is a hell-hole.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now
>>> i remember why i dont ever go there
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
 one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i
 logged in, im curious what its doing

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard <
 mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case
> we'd be in trouble.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get beyond
>> that customer's radio.
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett < 
>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...   ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> *To: *"af" < af@afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking the
>>> management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're 
>>> probably
>>> fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I 
>>> haven't
>>> been able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately,
>>> when I was setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs 
>>> from
>>> outside our network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from
>>> being able to get to other customers radios as well... which should 
>>> break
>>> the self replicating part of this thing, so even if it does somehow get
>>> into our network, it shouldn't be able to get far.
>>>
>>> That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on at least 5.6.2
>>> right away.
>>> On May 16, 2016 8:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> yeah, thats amazing me, one fella was complaining about how much of
>>> a problem it would be to take a unit offline to get on a bench. I would
>>> think if things are that bad that your network is progressively shutting
>>> down, convenience would be the least of your concerns.
>>>
>>> I have to investigate a couple anomalies on the network, in the back
>>> of my mind Im hoping the air 

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

oh, i know i don't matter...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock


  Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you don't 
matter...




  On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday


  - Original Message - 
  From: Travis Johnson 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] GPRO stock


  Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility 
  of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right 
  now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six 
  months. :)

  Travis

Re: [AFMUG] How to graph Mikrotik queues?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
In RouterOS CLI, go to /queue simple or /queue tree and type
  "print oid" and you'll see all the SNMP OIDs for each queue. You
  can create data sources in Cacti or Dude (or whatever) and graph
  them.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont

  Network
  Architect
  email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
  Celerity Networks LLC
  Celerity
  Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
  Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
  

  

On 5/17/16 8:44 AM, Gino Villarini
  wrote:


  
Is there a way to remotely collect
and graph Mikrotik BW queues?


We are using a CCR to handle a MDU,
all customers are on the same vlan (design constraint) 


We need to graph queues
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Josh Luthman]

I bought too.  We'll see what happens!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:

> ill just bought...
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility of
>> a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right now
>> and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six
>> months. :)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Robert]

Just after Icann sold a billion...  just to make sure you know you don't 
matter...



On 5/17/16 7:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday

- Original Message -
*From:* Travis Johnson 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
*Subject:* [AFMUG] GPRO stock

Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the
possibility
of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy
right
now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the
next six
months. :)

Travis

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I heard burkshire just bought a billion worth of apple yesterday


  - Original Message - 
  From: Travis Johnson 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:23 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] GPRO stock


  Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility 
  of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right 
  now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six 
  months. :)

  Travis

[AFMUG] How to graph Mikrotik queues?

[Gino Villarini]

Is there a way to remotely collect and graph Mikrotik BW queues?


We are using a CCR to handle a MDU, all customers are on the same vlan
(design constraint)


We need to graph queues

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))

hah


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ty Featherling 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware


  We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically applied. The 
forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit indescriminately.







  -Ty


  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

All your hate are belong to us.




bp


On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack of 
hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it for a 
better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate

  From: Ty Featherling 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

  When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you 
know that place is a hell-hole. 

  -Ty



  -Ty

  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now 
i remember why i dont ever go there

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular 
  one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i 
logged in, im curious what its doing

  On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case 
we'd be in trouble.


On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

  True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get 
beyond that customer's radio.


  On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett  
wrote:

Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...  
 ;-)




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Mathew Howard" 
To: "af" 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware


If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking 
the management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're probably 
fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I haven't been 
able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately, when I was 
setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs from outside our 
network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from being able to get 
to other customers radios as well... which should break the self replicating 
part of this thing, so even if it does somehow get into our network, it 
shouldn't be able to get far. 

That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on at least 5.6.2 
right away. 

On May 16, 2016 8:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

  yeah, thats amazing me, one fella was complaining about how 
much of a problem it would be to take a unit offline to get on a bench. I would 
think if things are that bad that your network is progressively shutting down, 
convenience would be the least of your concerns. 

  I have to investigate a couple anomalies on the network, in 
the back of my mind Im hoping the air routers have been hit to put a nail in 
their coffins so we cam go with mikrotiks as the CPE router instead

  On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

Or threatening to sue because of their own personal 
ignorance and negligence.

On May 16, 2016 8:32 PM, "Mike Hammett"  
wrote:

  A good amount of it is just people that don't know any 
better making false observations.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:19:00 PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] ubnt malware


  From what im reading in their forums something set off 
over the weekend? or is it ubnt douche nozzles? 

  It 

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Bill Prince]

I would bet against it. I think their drone gambit will not give much of 
a pop, or at least as much as people might be betting on.



bp


On 5/17/2016 7:23 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility 
of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy 
right now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the 
next six months. :)


Travis

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Gino Villarini]

ill just bought...

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility of
> a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right now
> and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six
> months. :)
>
> Travis
>
>

[AFMUG] PacketFlux 1U SyncInjector

[Matt]

Any progress on this?  Hope to rebuild a couple major sites this
summer and this thing would certainly save me some space.

[AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Travis Johnson]

Hey... if anyone is looking for a 4-5 month stock with the possibility 
of a 50% return, you should take a look at GPRO. It's a great buy right 
now and I personally think it will hit $14-$15 again within the next six 
months. :)


Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

[Jon Sands]

no baofengs are part 95 certified. Even if you had a GMRS license it 
would still technically be illegal to use the frequency set with a 
baofeng - licensed GMRS usage requires a part 95 certified radio. Like 
Robbie said, it would be akin to using DFS on non-certified hardware.


there are a couple baofengs that are part 90 certified (probably the 
sticker he was referring to), meaning you can use them on licensed 
business land mobile radio service frequencies. You would obviously need 
the matching business/commercial license


On 5/17/2016 9:56 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
If you can turn down the power on those things maybe. Assuming, of 
course, that they have been type accepted. Some of these radios show 
up with FCC stickers and some don't.


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:34 AM Rory Conaway > wrote:


I assumed I could use FRS or GMRS.

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Jon Sands
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:44 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

"Legally"? without an amateur radio license or commercial business
license (assuming you have one of the few baofeng models that are
part 90 certified) - nowhere.

To use them in the amateur radio bands you'd obviously need an
amateur radio license, that leaves FRS, GMRS, and the MURS bands,
all of which would technically be illegal to use on a baofeng as
they aren't part 95 certified. Granted that hasn't stopped
thousands of clueless amazon customers from using them on MURS and
FRS frequencies, but it is technically "illegal" and they have
about ten times the output power that's allowed on the FRS band.

Does that mean anything will happen if you punch in MURS
frequencies and turn the output power down to a watt? Doubtful,
I've certainly never heard of any FCC enforcement over this
without quite a bit of written complaints first, but keep in mind
you would technically be outside of legal operation. Other, more
stingy amateur radio operators on the list (KD9DAL here) might
wince at me even mentioning the possibility of you doing so, and I
understand where they're coming from. It's the equivalent of
wireless jaywalking, assuming you keep the output power down and
don't cause any interference there aren't any "victims" and people
do it everyday, but there's the potential to cause interference to
people using the bands legally with type-certified radios

clarification: this is assuming you meant transmitting. If you're
just using it for receive, listen anywhere you please





On 5/17/2016 8:14 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

I bought a couple of Baofong FM/VHF/UHF radios for a race
car.  What frequency range can I program it for that are legal
for the weekend?

*Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

**

“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better
than before.”

-- 


Jon Sands




--
Jon Sands
Fohdeesha Media
http://fohdeesha.com/

Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

[Lewis Bergman]

If you can turn down the power on those things maybe. Assuming, of course,
that they have been type accepted. Some of these radios show up with FCC
stickers and some don't.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:34 AM Rory Conaway  wrote:

> I assumed I could use FRS or GMRS.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Sands
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios
>
>
>
> "Legally"? without an amateur radio license or commercial business license
> (assuming you have one of the few baofeng models that are part 90
> certified) - nowhere.
>
> To use them in the amateur radio bands you'd obviously need an amateur
> radio license, that leaves FRS, GMRS, and the MURS bands, all of which
> would technically be illegal to use on a baofeng as they aren't part 95
> certified. Granted that hasn't stopped thousands of clueless amazon
> customers from using them on MURS and FRS frequencies, but it is
> technically "illegal" and they have about ten times the output power that's
> allowed on the FRS band.
>
> Does that mean anything will happen if you punch in MURS frequencies and
> turn the output power down to a watt? Doubtful, I've certainly never heard
> of any FCC enforcement over this without quite a bit of written complaints
> first, but keep in mind you would technically be outside of legal
> operation. Other, more stingy amateur radio operators on the list (KD9DAL
> here) might wince at me even mentioning the possibility of you doing so,
> and I understand where they're coming from. It's the equivalent of wireless
> jaywalking, assuming you keep the output power down and don't cause any
> interference there aren't any "victims" and people do it everyday, but
> there's the potential to cause interference to people using the bands
> legally with type-certified radios
>
> clarification: this is assuming you meant transmitting. If you're just
> using it for receive, listen anywhere you please
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/17/2016 8:14 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> I bought a couple of Baofong FM/VHF/UHF radios for a race car.  What
> frequency range can I program it for that are legal for the weekend?
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jon Sands
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

[Rory Conaway]

I’ll have to look. I will just get a GMRS license.  You can set the power to 
whatever is legal for the band you use.  I’ll play with the programming tonight.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

If you can turn down the power on those things maybe. Assuming, of course, that 
they have been type accepted. Some of these radios show up with FCC stickers 
and some don't.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:34 AM Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
I assumed I could use FRS or GMRS.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jon Sands
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

"Legally"? without an amateur radio license or commercial business license 
(assuming you have one of the few baofeng models that are part 90 certified) - 
nowhere.

To use them in the amateur radio bands you'd obviously need an amateur radio 
license, that leaves FRS, GMRS, and the MURS bands, all of which would 
technically be illegal to use on a baofeng as they aren't part 95 certified. 
Granted that hasn't stopped thousands of clueless amazon customers from using 
them on MURS and FRS frequencies, but it is technically "illegal" and they have 
about ten times the output power that's allowed on the FRS band.

Does that mean anything will happen if you punch in MURS frequencies and turn 
the output power down to a watt? Doubtful, I've certainly never heard of any 
FCC enforcement over this without quite a bit of written complaints first, but 
keep in mind you would technically be outside of legal operation. Other, more 
stingy amateur radio operators on the list (KD9DAL here) might wince at me even 
mentioning the possibility of you doing so, and I understand where they're 
coming from. It's the equivalent of wireless jaywalking, assuming you keep the 
output power down and don't cause any interference there aren't any "victims" 
and people do it everyday, but there's the potential to cause interference to 
people using the bands legally with type-certified radios

clarification: this is assuming you meant transmitting. If you're just using it 
for receive, listen anywhere you please





On 5/17/2016 8:14 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
I bought a couple of Baofong FM/VHF/UHF radios for a race car.  What frequency 
range can I program it for that are legal for the weekend?

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”





--

Jon Sands

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Josh Reynolds]

Monkies with fire dude.
On May 17, 2016 4:48 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now i
> remember why i dont ever go there
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i logged
>> in, im curious what its doing
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case we'd
>>> be in trouble.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get beyond
 that customer's radio.

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...   ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Mathew Howard" 
> *To: *"af" 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking the
> management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're 
> probably
> fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I haven't
> been able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately,
> when I was setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs from
> outside our network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from
> being able to get to other customers radios as well... which should break
> the self replicating part of this thing, so even if it does somehow get
> into our network, it shouldn't be able to get far.
>
> That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on at least 5.6.2 right
> away.
> On May 16, 2016 8:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yeah, thats amazing me, one fella was complaining about how much of a
> problem it would be to take a unit offline to get on a bench. I would 
> think
> if things are that bad that your network is progressively shutting down,
> convenience would be the least of your concerns.
>
> I have to investigate a couple anomalies on the network, in the back
> of my mind Im hoping the air routers have been hit to put a nail in their
> coffins so we cam go with mikrotiks as the CPE router instead
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Or threatening to sue because of their own personal ignorance and
>> negligence.
>> On May 16, 2016 8:32 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>>
>>> A good amount of it is just people that don't know any better making
>>> false observations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 8:19:00 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> From what im reading in their forums something set off over the
>>> weekend? or is it ubnt douche nozzles?
>>>
>>> It sounds almost as if this malware is actively being manipulated
>>> (changing from key access to foul 

Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

[Rory Conaway]

Got it. I just looked up the rules, thanks.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robbie Wright
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

Jon is spot on. You could dial down the output power with CHIRP or something 
for MURS and GMRS and probably not get caught. It'd be like running Mikrotik on 
DFS. Not legal and just waiting to get caught, but they chances could be slim.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband
541-902-5101

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
I assumed I could use FRS or GMRS.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jon Sands
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

"Legally"? without an amateur radio license or commercial business license 
(assuming you have one of the few baofeng models that are part 90 certified) - 
nowhere.

To use them in the amateur radio bands you'd obviously need an amateur radio 
license, that leaves FRS, GMRS, and the MURS bands, all of which would 
technically be illegal to use on a baofeng as they aren't part 95 certified. 
Granted that hasn't stopped thousands of clueless amazon customers from using 
them on MURS and FRS frequencies, but it is technically "illegal" and they have 
about ten times the output power that's allowed on the FRS band.

Does that mean anything will happen if you punch in MURS frequencies and turn 
the output power down to a watt? Doubtful, I've certainly never heard of any 
FCC enforcement over this without quite a bit of written complaints first, but 
keep in mind you would technically be outside of legal operation. Other, more 
stingy amateur radio operators on the list (KD9DAL here) might wince at me even 
mentioning the possibility of you doing so, and I understand where they're 
coming from. It's the equivalent of wireless jaywalking, assuming you keep the 
output power down and don't cause any interference there aren't any "victims" 
and people do it everyday, but there's the potential to cause interference to 
people using the bands legally with type-certified radios

clarification: this is assuming you meant transmitting. If you're just using it 
for receive, listen anywhere you please





On 5/17/2016 8:14 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
I bought a couple of Baofong FM/VHF/UHF radios for a race car.  What frequency 
range can I program it for that are legal for the weekend?

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”





--

Jon Sands

Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

[Robbie Wright]

Jon is spot on. You could dial down the output power with CHIRP or
something for MURS and GMRS and probably not get caught. It'd be like
running Mikrotik on DFS. Not legal and just waiting to get caught, but they
chances could be slim.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband 
541-902-5101

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> I assumed I could use FRS or GMRS.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Sands
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios
>
>
>
> "Legally"? without an amateur radio license or commercial business license
> (assuming you have one of the few baofeng models that are part 90
> certified) - nowhere.
>
> To use them in the amateur radio bands you'd obviously need an amateur
> radio license, that leaves FRS, GMRS, and the MURS bands, all of which
> would technically be illegal to use on a baofeng as they aren't part 95
> certified. Granted that hasn't stopped thousands of clueless amazon
> customers from using them on MURS and FRS frequencies, but it is
> technically "illegal" and they have about ten times the output power that's
> allowed on the FRS band.
>
> Does that mean anything will happen if you punch in MURS frequencies and
> turn the output power down to a watt? Doubtful, I've certainly never heard
> of any FCC enforcement over this without quite a bit of written complaints
> first, but keep in mind you would technically be outside of legal
> operation. Other, more stingy amateur radio operators on the list (KD9DAL
> here) might wince at me even mentioning the possibility of you doing so,
> and I understand where they're coming from. It's the equivalent of wireless
> jaywalking, assuming you keep the output power down and don't cause any
> interference there aren't any "victims" and people do it everyday, but
> there's the potential to cause interference to people using the bands
> legally with type-certified radios
>
> clarification: this is assuming you meant transmitting. If you're just
> using it for receive, listen anywhere you please
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/17/2016 8:14 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> I bought a couple of Baofong FM/VHF/UHF radios for a race car.  What
> frequency range can I program it for that are legal for the weekend?
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jon Sands
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically applied. The
forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit indescriminately.



-Ty

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> All your hate are belong to us.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack of
> hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it for a
> better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>
> *From:* Ty Featherling 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you
> know that place is a hell-hole.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now i
>> remember why i dont ever go there
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i
>>> logged in, im curious what its doing
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard < 
>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case we'd
 be in trouble.

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
 mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get beyond
> that customer's radio.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett < 
> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...   ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"af" < af@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking the
>> management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're 
>> probably
>> fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I haven't
>> been able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately,
>> when I was setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs from
>> outside our network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from
>> being able to get to other customers radios as well... which should break
>> the self replicating part of this thing, so even if it does somehow get
>> into our network, it shouldn't be able to get far.
>>
>> That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on at least 5.6.2 right
>> away.
>> On May 16, 2016 8:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> yeah, thats amazing me, one fella was complaining about how much of a
>> problem it would be to take a unit offline to get on a bench. I would 
>> think
>> if things are that bad that your network is progressively shutting down,
>> convenience would be the least of your concerns.
>>
>> I have to investigate a couple anomalies on the network, in the back
>> of my mind Im hoping the air routers have been hit to put a nail in their
>> coffins so we cam go with mikrotiks as the CPE router instead
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Or threatening to sue because of their own personal ignorance and
>>> negligence.
>>> On May 16, 2016 8:32 PM, "Mike Hammett" < 
>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
 A good amount of it is just people that don't know any better
 making false observations.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

[Rory Conaway]

I assumed I could use FRS or GMRS.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Sands
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

"Legally"? without an amateur radio license or commercial business license 
(assuming you have one of the few baofeng models that are part 90 certified) - 
nowhere.

To use them in the amateur radio bands you'd obviously need an amateur radio 
license, that leaves FRS, GMRS, and the MURS bands, all of which would 
technically be illegal to use on a baofeng as they aren't part 95 certified. 
Granted that hasn't stopped thousands of clueless amazon customers from using 
them on MURS and FRS frequencies, but it is technically "illegal" and they have 
about ten times the output power that's allowed on the FRS band.

Does that mean anything will happen if you punch in MURS frequencies and turn 
the output power down to a watt? Doubtful, I've certainly never heard of any 
FCC enforcement over this without quite a bit of written complaints first, but 
keep in mind you would technically be outside of legal operation. Other, more 
stingy amateur radio operators on the list (KD9DAL here) might wince at me even 
mentioning the possibility of you doing so, and I understand where they're 
coming from. It's the equivalent of wireless jaywalking, assuming you keep the 
output power down and don't cause any interference there aren't any "victims" 
and people do it everyday, but there's the potential to cause interference to 
people using the bands legally with type-certified radios

clarification: this is assuming you meant transmitting. If you're just using it 
for receive, listen anywhere you please





On 5/17/2016 8:14 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
I bought a couple of Baofong FM/VHF/UHF radios for a race car.  What frequency 
range can I program it for that are legal for the weekend?

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”





--

Jon Sands

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Bill Prince]

All your hate are belong to us.


bp


On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack 
of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it 
for a better time and place... afmug: higher quality hate

*From:* Ty Featherling 
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you 
know that place is a hell-hole.

-Ty
-Ty
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
> wrote:


holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of
hate, now i remember why i dont ever go there
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> wrote:

wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it
since i logged in, im curious what its doing
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard
> wrote:

...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in
which case we'd be in trouble.
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard
> wrote:

True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still
shouldn't get beyond that customer's radio.
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett
> wrote:

Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or
something else...   ;-)



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions



Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 






*From: *"Mathew Howard" >
*To: *"af" >
*Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

If you have firewall rules at the edge of the
network blocking the management ports ti the
airrouters that are on public IPs, they're
probably fine. We still have some radios that are
on old firmware, but   I haven't been able to find
anything on our network that's infected.
Fortunately, when I was setting up the firewall
rules to block access to the CPEs from outside our
network, I decided it was desirable to block
customers from being able to get to other
customers radios as well... which should break the
self replicating part of this thing, so even if it
does somehow get into our network, it shouldn't be
able to get far.

That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on
at least 5.6.2 right away.

On May 16, 2016 8:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> wrote:

yeah, thats amazing me, one fella was
complaining about how much of a problem it
would be to take a unit offline to get on a
bench. I would think if things are that bad
that your network is progressively shutting
down, convenience would be the least of your
concerns.
I have to investigate a couple anomalies on
the network, in the back of my mind Im hoping
the air routers have been hit to put a nail in
their coffins so we cam go with 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Chuck McCown]

Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack of hate. 
 We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it for a better time 
and place...  afmug: higher quality hate

From: Ty Featherling 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you know 
that place is a hell-hole. 

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now i 
remember why i dont ever go there

  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular 
one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i logged 
in, im curious what its doing

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard  
wrote:

  ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case we'd 
be in trouble.


  On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard  
wrote:

True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get beyond 
that customer's radio.


On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

  Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...   ;-)




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "Mathew Howard" 
  To: "af" 
  Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware


  If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking the 
management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're probably 
fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I haven't been 
able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately, when I was 
setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs from outside our 
network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from being able to get 
to other customers radios as well... which should break the self replicating 
part of this thing, so even if it does somehow get into our network, it 
shouldn't be able to get far. 

  That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on at least 5.6.2 right 
away. 

  On May 16, 2016 8:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

yeah, thats amazing me, one fella was complaining about how much of 
a problem it would be to take a unit offline to get on a bench. I would think 
if things are that bad that your network is progressively shutting down, 
convenience would be the least of your concerns. 

I have to investigate a couple anomalies on the network, in the 
back of my mind Im hoping the air routers have been hit to put a nail in their 
coffins so we cam go with mikrotiks as the CPE router instead

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

  Or threatening to sue because of their own personal ignorance and 
negligence.

  On May 16, 2016 8:32 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

A good amount of it is just people that don't know any better 
making false observations.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:19:00 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] ubnt malware


From what im reading in their forums something set off over the 
weekend? or is it ubnt douche nozzles? 

It sounds almost as if this malware is actively being 
manipulated (changing from key access to foul username/password, wandering 
control ports, etc, like script kiddies found a new toy?

is this thing self propagating from the device?


-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see 
your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you know
that place is a hell-hole.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now i
> remember why i dont ever go there
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i logged
>> in, im curious what its doing
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case we'd
>>> be in trouble.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get beyond
 that customer's radio.

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...   ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Mathew Howard" 
> *To: *"af" 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking the
> management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're 
> probably
> fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I haven't
> been able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately,
> when I was setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs from
> outside our network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from
> being able to get to other customers radios as well... which should break
> the self replicating part of this thing, so even if it does somehow get
> into our network, it shouldn't be able to get far.
>
> That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on at least 5.6.2 right
> away.
> On May 16, 2016 8:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yeah, thats amazing me, one fella was complaining about how much of a
> problem it would be to take a unit offline to get on a bench. I would 
> think
> if things are that bad that your network is progressively shutting down,
> convenience would be the least of your concerns.
>
> I have to investigate a couple anomalies on the network, in the back
> of my mind Im hoping the air routers have been hit to put a nail in their
> coffins so we cam go with mikrotiks as the CPE router instead
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Or threatening to sue because of their own personal ignorance and
>> negligence.
>> On May 16, 2016 8:32 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>>
>>> A good amount of it is just people that don't know any better making
>>> false observations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 8:19:00 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> From what im reading in their forums something set off over the
>>> weekend? or is it ubnt douche nozzles?
>>>
>>> It sounds almost as if 

Re: [AFMUG] Airgrid XW 5.5.1.0 firmware -5 error?

[can...@believewireless.net]

Download the new Ubnt Java patch and run that against the IPs. It will
upgrade the radios.

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Josh Reynolds 
wrote:

> Sounds like a memory leak. If it's still connected via air control you can
> try using it to reboot it
> On May 16, 2016 9:12 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>
>> oops I confused this with another one I'm working on, I actually just got
>> this one to update through SSH using the ubnt removal tool., I have another
>> that has no ssh, no web ui but is passing traffic, I suspect is infected
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:11 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>
>>> Can't get in via SSH as well, I'll try to get the customer to do a hard
>>> reboot, then make a truck roll if that doesn't work
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Usually a software reboot works...it doesn't have room for whatever
 reason.

 Have you tried wget and fwupdate ?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:07 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

> Yeah, tried that as well. UI reboot anyway. Not a full power cycle.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Try to reboot it first, then upgrade.
>> On May 16, 2016 9:00 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>>> I tried XW and XM, really strange
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:00 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>
 Firmware Version: XW.v5.5.10   Upload Firmware:
 Build Number: 24238

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Josh Reynolds <
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Make sure you're using upgrade and not upload... Also probably
> should be xm firmware, not xw.
> On May 16, 2016 8:30 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>
>> Anyone know the upgrade path or why this airgrid won't upgrade?
>>
>> XW 5.5.10 , tried almost all firmware revisions and keep getting
>> failed -5 error?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TJ
>>
>

>>>
>

>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

[Jon Sands]

"Legally"? without an amateur radio license or commercial business 
license (assuming you have one of the few baofeng models that are part 
90 certified) - nowhere.


To use them in the amateur radio bands you'd obviously need an amateur 
radio license, that leaves FRS, GMRS, and the MURS bands, all of which 
would technically be illegal to use on a baofeng as they aren't part 95 
certified. Granted that hasn't stopped thousands of clueless amazon 
customers from using them on MURS and FRS frequencies, but it is 
technically "illegal" and they have about ten times the output power 
that's allowed on the FRS band.


Does that mean anything will happen if you punch in MURS frequencies and 
turn the output power down to a watt? Doubtful, I've certainly never 
heard of any FCC enforcement over this without quite a bit of written 
complaints first, but keep in mind you would technically be outside of 
legal operation. Other, more stingy amateur radio operators on the list 
(KD9DAL here) might wince at me even mentioning the possibility of you 
doing so, and I understand where they're coming from. It's the 
equivalent of wireless jaywalking, assuming you keep the output power 
down and don't cause any interference there aren't any "victims" and 
people do it everyday, but there's the potential to cause interference 
to people using the bands legally with type-certified radios


clarification: this is assuming you meant transmitting. If you're just 
using it for receive, listen anywhere you please






On 5/17/2016 8:14 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


I bought a couple of Baofong FM/VHF/UHF radios for a race car.  What 
frequency range can I program it for that are legal for the weekend?


*Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

**

“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”




--
Jon Sands

[AFMUG] Baofong radios

[Rory Conaway]

I bought a couple of Baofong FM/VHF/UHF radios for a race car.  What frequency 
range can I program it for that are legal for the weekend?

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"I wish I could play little league now.  I'd be way better than before."

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now i
remember why i dont ever go there

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i logged
> in, im curious what its doing
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case we'd
>> be in trouble.
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get beyond
>>> that customer's radio.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>>
 Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...   ;-)



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 
 
 The Brothers WISP 
 


 
 --
 *From: *"Mathew Howard" 
 *To: *"af" 
 *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

 If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking the
 management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're probably
 fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I haven't
 been able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately,
 when I was setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs from
 outside our network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from
 being able to get to other customers radios as well... which should break
 the self replicating part of this thing, so even if it does somehow get
 into our network, it shouldn't be able to get far.

 That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on at least 5.6.2 right
 away.
 On May 16, 2016 8:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 yeah, thats amazing me, one fella was complaining about how much of a
 problem it would be to take a unit offline to get on a bench. I would think
 if things are that bad that your network is progressively shutting down,
 convenience would be the least of your concerns.

 I have to investigate a couple anomalies on the network, in the back of
 my mind Im hoping the air routers have been hit to put a nail in their
 coffins so we cam go with mikrotiks as the CPE router instead

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

> Or threatening to sue because of their own personal ignorance and
> negligence.
> On May 16, 2016 8:32 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> A good amount of it is just people that don't know any better making
>> false observations.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 8:19:00 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> From what im reading in their forums something set off over the
>> weekend? or is it ubnt douche nozzles?
>>
>> It sounds almost as if this malware is actively being manipulated
>> (changing from key access to foul username/password, wandering control
>> ports, etc, like script kiddies found a new toy?
>>
>> is this thing self propagating from the device?
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

[George Skorup]

I've seen less than 20 Canopy radios bad out of the box. Ever. Out of 
~3k over the years. Shit happens. They replace them.


On 5/17/2016 3:09 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:


Considering the cost of the 450 AP or SM, I don't see how you're so 
relaxed about that, compared to the quality control on a $120 ATX 
motherboard, which is a significantly more complicated PCB than any 
450... I know I've never unboxed one and had pieces rattling around 
even on the very cheapest.


On May 16, 2016 8:08 PM, "George Skorup" > wrote:


FYI, I got a couple 450 APs (not 450i's) with busted LEDs. One the
power LED simply doesn't light up. The other one is one of the GPS
or session LEDs. Both seemed to work fine, so we said screw it and
installed.

Then we got a new 5GHz 450 SM that wouldn't power up. Tweak the
cable just right and it would come on. I suspect a bad solder
joint on the RJ45. And a new 3GHz SM had a component rattling
around inside. Small surface mount ceramic cap or resistor fell out.

This is probably out of the hundred or so we've bought so far this
year. Not a very high out of box defective rate at all. Just
wanted to mention it. The pessimist in me says they're having some
soldering problems in Mexico. But what do I know.

On 5/16/2016 9:34 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:


We’re looking into this Ken… our engineering team is trying to
replicate.

Will update your forum thread with results once figured out.

Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 9:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only
running 100Mbps

No, the reason I’m asking is I’m seeing the LED totally off when
running at 1000 Mbps.  Not orange like the user guide says.  What
I am seeing on the actual AP is:

10M: red

100M: green

1000M: off, nothing, nada, zilch, dark, devoid of visible radiation

It really screwed me up because I thought there was no link,
until I realized it was working fine at 1000FDX and reporting
1000FDX in the GUI.

*From:*Eric Kuhnke 

*Sent:*Monday, May 16, 2016 8:51 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only
running 100Mbps

I've seen this a lot - the Intel 1000BaseT server NICs all use
yellow-orange for an active 1000Mbps link, and green for 100Mbps.
Seems counter intuitive but it is sort of a 'standard'.

Such as the i350-T2 and others.



http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/intel-gigabit-server-adapters/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-series/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-t2.html


On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm
familiar with.

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof > wrote:

I have a question while we are on the topic:  what color
is the last LED on your 450i AP when it is running at
1000 Mbps?  I know it’s green at 100 Mbps, but what about
1000 Mbps? I know the user guide says orange, but is that
what your AP actually does?

*From:*David 

*Sent:*Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
only running 100Mbps

I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw
anything at me for not reading the whole thread.
450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios
they are rated for cambium std 29v
This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes
to 48v plant as its base supply.

On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I have an idea.  Working on an experiment.

*From:*Wireless Administrator 

*Sent:*Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium
450i only running 100Mbps

Thanks for having a look at this for us.  It sure
doesn’t make sense to me.  The system continues to
run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the Cambium
units.  I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like
this one’s above my pay grade.

Steve B.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

[Eric Kuhnke]

Considering the cost of the 450 AP or SM, I don't see how you're so relaxed
about that, compared to the quality control on a $120 ATX motherboard,
which is a significantly more complicated PCB than any 450... I know I've
never unboxed one and had pieces rattling around even on the very cheapest.
On May 16, 2016 8:08 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> FYI, I got a couple 450 APs (not 450i's) with busted LEDs. One the power
> LED simply doesn't light up. The other one is one of the GPS or session
> LEDs. Both seemed to work fine, so we said screw it and installed.
>
> Then we got a new 5GHz 450 SM that wouldn't power up. Tweak the cable just
> right and it would come on. I suspect a bad solder joint on the RJ45. And a
> new 3GHz SM had a component rattling around inside. Small surface mount
> ceramic cap or resistor fell out.
>
> This is probably out of the hundred or so we've bought so far this year.
> Not a very high out of box defective rate at all. Just wanted to mention
> it. The pessimist in me says they're having some soldering problems in
> Mexico. But what do I know.
>
> On 5/16/2016 9:34 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
>
> We’re looking into this Ken… our engineering team is trying to replicate.
>
>
>
> Will update your forum thread with results once figured out.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 9:23 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
> 100Mbps
>
>
>
> No, the reason I’m asking is I’m seeing the LED totally off when running
> at 1000 Mbps.  Not orange like the user guide says.  What I am seeing on
> the actual AP is:
>
>
>
> 10M:  red
>
> 100M:  green
>
> 1000M:  off, nothing, nada, zilch, dark, devoid of visible radiation
>
>
>
> It really screwed me up because I thought there was no link, until I
> realized it was working fine at 1000FDX and reporting 1000FDX in the GUI.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 8:51 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
> 100Mbps
>
>
>
> I've seen this a lot - the Intel 1000BaseT server NICs all use
> yellow-orange for an active 1000Mbps link, and green for 100Mbps. Seems
> counter intuitive but it is sort of a 'standard'.
>
> Such as the i350-T2 and others.
>
>
>
> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/intel-gigabit-server-adapters/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-series/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-t2.html
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm familiar with.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I have a question while we are on the topic:  what color is the last LED
> on your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps?  I know it’s green at 100
> Mbps, but what about 1000 Mbps?  I know the user guide says orange, but is
> that what your AP actually does?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
> 100Mbps
>
>
>
> I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything at me for
> not reading the whole thread.
> 450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they are rated for
> cambium std 29v
> This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to 48v plant as
> its base supply.
>
> On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> I have an idea.  Working on an experiment.
>
>
>
> *From:* Wireless Administrator 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
> 100Mbps
>
>
>
> Thanks for having a look at this for us.  It sure doesn’t make sense to
> me.  The system  continues to run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the
> Cambium units.  I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like this one’s
> above my pay grade.
>
>
>
> Steve B.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
> ] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
> 100Mbps
>
>
>
> No Joy.  Everything checks out 100%.
>
>
>
> I bought one the cambium units for comparison.  Its impulse breakdown
> voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to
> ground.  Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but
> normally that is not an issue.
>
>
>
> Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the
> cambium unit.
>
>
>
> They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out.
>
> Something that is not related to surge suppression.
>