Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Robert
Grab one of the ones with the DC power connectors on the front, those 
are the units to verify against IMNSHO...


On 5/19/17 6:33 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yes

-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

Are you using the Mini   All bets off..

On 5/19/17 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

When I put in 55 I get out 55.

*From:* Rory Conaway
*Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 5:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE


They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.



Rory



*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE



I don’t think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.



*From:*George Skorup

*Sent:*Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE



Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products
allow 2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in
current protection?

Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery
power for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W
due to variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always
56VDC. I use a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which
then becomes ~1.57A. Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the
battery is getting low. I'm sure there are/will be folks wanting to run
a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it doesn't matter because the Netonix
internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, doesn't it? I don't know.

On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an
Ethernet fuse board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum
protection of an CAT5/6 circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps
during a major event, this fuse board will blow to prevent damage to
a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 pins to detect blown fuses
if it is a POE circuit.�

�

Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first
run of the pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the
fuses to blow about a bit over 2 amps.�

�

Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal
considerations etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered
by a Netonics doing 54 volts.�

�

It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.�
They say 2 amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they
_actually mean it_.� I was hoping it would survive 2 amps
continuous, but it will not.� So I have a roll of smt fuses that
are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I release a 1.5
amp and a 2 amp version of this product.�

�

RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps
would be a good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two
different amp ratings or one.�







Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

2017-05-19 Thread Jeremy
Our installer makes $18 per hour (40 hour work week - time and a half
beyond 40).  Just offered 50 cents more per hour if he passes the A+ and
$1.00 more per hour if he passes the Network+.  Also, he needs to do it on
his own time, and I have offered to reimburse him for the cost of the tests
if he passes.

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:38 AM, SmarterBroadband  wrote:

> They have to take pictures.  Mounting, cable run, wall penetration,
> inside, etc.
>
> We also check AP and CPE rx levels, CINR, mcs, link test etc.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:54 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages
>
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>
> Do you have someone go out to each site to make sure things were done
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages
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>
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>
> Bonuses are paid two weeks after the install, this gives time to check
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Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Chuck McCown

Yes

-Original Message- 
From: Robert

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

Are you using the Mini   All bets off..

On 5/19/17 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

When I put in 55 I get out 55.

*From:* Rory Conaway
*Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 5:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE


They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.



Rory



*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE



I don’t think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.



*From:*George Skorup

*Sent:*Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE



Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products
allow 2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in
current protection?

Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery
power for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W
due to variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always
56VDC. I use a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which
then becomes ~1.57A. Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the
battery is getting low. I'm sure there are/will be folks wanting to run
a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it doesn't matter because the Netonix
internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, doesn't it? I don't know.

On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an
Ethernet fuse board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum
protection of an CAT5/6 circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps
during a major event, this fuse board will blow to prevent damage to
a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 pins to detect blown fuses
if it is a POE circuit.�

�

Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first
run of the pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the
fuses to blow about a bit over 2 amps.�

�

Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal
considerations etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered
by a Netonics doing 54 volts.�

�

It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.�
They say 2 amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they
_actually mean it_.� I was hoping it would survive 2 amps
continuous, but it will not.� So I have a roll of smt fuses that
are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I release a 1.5
amp and a 2 amp version of this product.�

�

RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps
would be a good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two
different amp ratings or one.�







Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Robert

Are you using the Mini   All bets off..

On 5/19/17 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

When I put in 55 I get out 55.

*From:* Rory Conaway
*Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 5:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE


They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.



Rory



*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE



I don’t think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.



*From:*George Skorup

*Sent:*Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE



Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products
allow 2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in
current protection?

Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery
power for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W
due to variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always
56VDC. I use a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which
then becomes ~1.57A. Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the
battery is getting low. I'm sure there are/will be folks wanting to run
a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it doesn't matter because the Netonix
internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, doesn't it? I don't know.

On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an
Ethernet fuse board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum
protection of an CAT5/6 circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps
during a major event, this fuse board will blow to prevent damage to
a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 pins to detect blown fuses
if it is a POE circuit.�

�

Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first
run of the pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the
fuses to blow about a bit over 2 amps.�

�

Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal
considerations etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered
by a Netonics doing 54 volts.�

�

It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.�
They say 2 amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they
_actually mean it_.� I was hoping it would survive 2 amps
continuous, but it will not.� So I have a roll of smt fuses that
are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I release a 1.5
amp and a 2 amp version of this product.�

�

RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps
would be a good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two
different amp ratings or one.�





Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Mathew Howard
It depends on the model... I'm pretty sure we have a 12 port model that
only regulates the 24v output (if the ports are set to 48v, they just get
whatever is fed in), but I think that particular switch may be discontinued.

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> Which model are you testing.  The WS-6 is the only one that does that.
> The rest have regulators.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 4:09 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE
>
>
>
> When I put in 55 I get out 55.
>
>
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway
>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 5:08 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE
>
>
>
> They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE
>
>
>
> I don’t think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.
>
>
>
> *From:* George Skorup
>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE
>
>
>
> Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products
> allow 2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in
> current protection?
>
> Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery
> power for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W due
> to variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always 56VDC.
> I use a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which then becomes
> ~1.57A. Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the battery is
> getting low. I'm sure there are/will be folks wanting to run a 450m on a
> Netonix. Maybe it doesn't matter because the Netonix internal DC-DC always
> puts out 54VDC, doesn't it? I don't know.
>
> On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an Ethernet
> fuse board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an
> CAT5/6 circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, this
> fuse board will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4
> of the 8 pins to detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.�
>
> �
>
> Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first run of
> the pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the fuses to blow
> about a bit over 2 amps.�
>
> �
>
> Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal considerations
> etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered by a Netonics doing 54
> volts.�
>
> �
>
> It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.� They say
> 2 amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they *actually mean it*.�
> I was hoping it would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will not.� So I
> have a roll of smt fuses that are worth about $650 that I will not be using
> unless I release a 1.5 amp and a 2 amp version of this product.�
>
> �
>
> RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps would
> be a good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two different amp
> ratings or one.�
>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Double check the spec sheets please.. 

there are a couple of models which are showing to provide 2A on the 24HV & 48HV 
ports, most of the others are showing to be rated for 1.5A. 

In my experience Chris S. is a stickler, expect exactly what is listed, nothing 
more nothing less :) 

https://www.netonix.com/media/wysiwyg/ws-specsheet.pdf 
(FWIW, I never noticed the Amp ratting on the POE out on the different netonix 
models until your email) :) 

Regards. 
Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Chuck McCown" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:51:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

> It might be doing that. I will check when I get back to the lab.
> From: Josh Baird
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:43 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE
> 55v out of what exactly? It seems to me that they have internal DC-DC 
> converters
> to regulate voltage per port You can see this if you go to "status" which 
> shows
> 3V/24V/48V board voltages. As an example, I have several WS-12-250-DC models
> that I'm supplying ~54VDC to, but the 48V board voltage shows ~49VDC.
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

>> When I put in 55 I get out 55.
>> From: Rory Conaway
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:08 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

>> They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.

>> Rory

>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

>> I don’t think Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.

>> From: George Skorup

>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM

>> To: af@afmug.com

>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

>> Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products 
>> allow
>> 2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in current
>> protection?

>> Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery power 
>> for
>> >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W due to variables
>> (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always 56VDC. I use a lot of
>> Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which then becomes ~1.57A. Well, it
>> dips down to about 46 volts or so when the battery is getting low. I'm sure
>> there are/will be folks wanting to run a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it doesn't
>> matter because the Netonix internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, doesn't it? 
>> I
>> don't know.

>> On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

>>> I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an Ethernet 
>>> fuse
>>> board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an CAT5/6
>>> circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, this fuse 
>>> board
>>> will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 
>>> pins to
>>> detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.�

>>> �

>>> Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first run of the
>>> pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the fuses to blow 
>>> about a
>>> bit over 2 amps.�

>>> �

>>> Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal considerations
>>> etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered by a Netonics doing 54
>>> volts.�

>>> �

>>> It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.� They say 2 
>>> amps
>>> surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they actually mean it .� I was 
>>> hoping
>>> it would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will not.� So I have a roll of 
>>> smt
>>> fuses that are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I release a 
>>> 1.5
>>> amp and a 2 amp version of this product.�

>>> �

>>> RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps would 
>>> be a
>>> good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two different amp ratings 
>>> or
>>> one.�


Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Chuck McCown
It might be doing that.  I will check when I get back to the lab.  

From: Josh Baird 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

55v out of what exactly?  It seems to me that they have internal DC-DC 
converters to regulate voltage per port  You can see this if you go to "status" 
which shows 3V/24V/48V board voltages.  As an example, I have several 
WS-12-250-DC models that I'm supplying ~54VDC to, but the 48V board voltage 
shows ~49VDC.

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  When I put in 55 I get out 55.  

  From: Rory Conaway 
  Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:08 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

  They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.  



  Rory



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE



  I don’t think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.  



  From: George Skorup 

  Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE



  Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products 
allow 2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in current 
protection?

  Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery power 
for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W due to 
variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always 56VDC. I use 
a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which then becomes ~1.57A. 
Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the battery is getting low. I'm 
sure there are/will be folks wanting to run a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it 
doesn't matter because the Netonix internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, 
doesn't it? I don't know.

  On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an Ethernet 
fuse board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an 
CAT5/6 circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, this fuse 
board will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 
pins to detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.� 

�

Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first run of 
the pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the fuses to blow 
about a bit over 2 amps.� 

�

Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal considerations 
etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered by a Netonics doing 54 
volts.� 

�

It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.� They say 2 
amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they actually mean it.� I was 
hoping it would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will not.� So I have a roll 
of smt fuses that are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I 
release a 1.5 amp and a 2 amp version of this product.� 

�

RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps would 
be a good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two different amp ratings 
or one.� 





Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Rory Conaway
Which model are you testing.  The WS-6 is the only one that does that.  The 
rest have regulators.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

When I put in 55 I get out 55.

From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

I don’t think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.

From: George Skorup
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products allow 
2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in current 
protection?

Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery power 
for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W due to 
variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always 56VDC. I use 
a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which then becomes ~1.57A. 
Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the battery is getting low. I'm 
sure there are/will be folks wanting to run a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it 
doesn't matter because the Netonix internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, 
doesn't it? I don't know.
On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an Ethernet fuse 
board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an CAT5/6 
circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, this fuse board 
will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 pins to 
detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.�
�
Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first run of the 
pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the fuses to blow about a 
bit over 2 amps.�
�
Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal considerations 
etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered by a Netonics doing 54 
volts.�
�
It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.� They say 2 
amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they actually mean it.� I was 
hoping it would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will not.� So I have a roll 
of smt fuses that are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I 
release a 1.5 amp and a 2 amp version of this product.�
�
RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps would be a 
good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two different amp ratings or 
one.�



Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Josh Baird
55v out of what exactly?  It seems to me that they have internal DC-DC
converters to regulate voltage per port  You can see this if you go to
"status" which shows 3V/24V/48V board voltages.  As an example, I have
several WS-12-250-DC models that I'm supplying ~54VDC to, but the 48V board
voltage shows ~49VDC.

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> When I put in 55 I get out 55.
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 5:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE
>
>
> They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE
>
>
>
> I don’t think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.
>
>
>
> *From:* George Skorup
>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE
>
>
>
> Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products
> allow 2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in
> current protection?
>
> Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery
> power for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W due
> to variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always 56VDC.
> I use a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which then becomes
> ~1.57A. Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the battery is
> getting low. I'm sure there are/will be folks wanting to run a 450m on a
> Netonix. Maybe it doesn't matter because the Netonix internal DC-DC always
> puts out 54VDC, doesn't it? I don't know.
>
> On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an Ethernet
> fuse board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an
> CAT5/6 circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, this
> fuse board will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4
> of the 8 pins to detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.�
>
> �
>
> Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first run of
> the pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the fuses to blow
> about a bit over 2 amps.�
>
> �
>
> Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal considerations
> etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered by a Netonics doing 54
> volts.�
>
> �
>
> It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.� They say
> 2 amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they *actually mean it*.�
> I was hoping it would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will not.� So I
> have a roll of smt fuses that are worth about $650 that I will not be using
> unless I release a 1.5 amp and a 2 amp version of this product.�
>
> �
>
> RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps would
> be a good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two different amp
> ratings or one.�
>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Chuck McCown
When I put in 55 I get out 55.  

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.  

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

 

I don’t think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.  

 

From: George Skorup 

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

 

Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products allow 
2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in current 
protection?

Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery power 
for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W due to 
variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always 56VDC. I use 
a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which then becomes ~1.57A. 
Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the battery is getting low. I'm 
sure there are/will be folks wanting to run a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it 
doesn't matter because the Netonix internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, 
doesn't it? I don't know.

On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an Ethernet fuse 
board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an CAT5/6 
circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, this fuse board 
will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 pins to 
detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.� 

  �

  Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first run of the 
pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the fuses to blow about a 
bit over 2 amps.� 

  �

  Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal considerations 
etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered by a Netonics doing 54 
volts.� 

  �

  It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.� They say 2 
amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they actually mean it.� I was 
hoping it would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will not.� So I have a roll 
of smt fuses that are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I 
release a 1.5 amp and a 2 amp version of this product.� 

  �

  RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps would be 
a good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two different amp ratings or 
one.� 

 


[AFMUG] Will a Netonix power a Cambium 820?

2017-05-19 Thread Rory Conaway


Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"Optimism is going after Moby Dick in rowboat and taking tartar sauce with you."




Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Rory Conaway
They can take 9-72V and put out 24 or 48V.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

I don't think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.

From: George Skorup
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products allow 
2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in current 
protection?

Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery power 
for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W due to 
variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always 56VDC. I use 
a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which then becomes ~1.57A. 
Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the battery is getting low. I'm 
sure there are/will be folks wanting to run a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it 
doesn't matter because the Netonix internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, 
doesn't it? I don't know.
On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an Ethernet fuse 
board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an CAT5/6 
circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, this fuse board 
will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 pins to 
detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.�
�
Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first run of the 
pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the fuses to blow about a 
bit over 2 amps.�
�
Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal considerations 
etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered by a Netonics doing 54 
volts.�
�
It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.� They say 2 
amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they actually mean it.� I was 
hoping it would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will not.� So I have a roll 
of smt fuses that are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I 
release a 1.5 amp and a 2 amp version of this product.�
�
RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps would be a 
good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two different amp ratings or 
one.�



Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread Chuck McCown
I don’t think  Netonix had a DC-DC, it just puts out what it is fed.  

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products allow 
2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in current 
protection?

Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery power 
for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W due to 
variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always 56VDC. I use 
a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which then becomes ~1.57A. 
Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the battery is getting low. I'm 
sure there are/will be folks wanting to run a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it 
doesn't matter because the Netonix internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, 
doesn't it? I don't know.


On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.� It is an Ethernet fuse 
board.�� Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an CAT5/6 
circuit.� If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, this fuse board 
will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.� Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 pins to 
detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.� 
  �
  Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.� Did the first run of the 
pre-production part and started testing.� I tweaked the fuses to blow about a 
bit over 2 amps.� 
  �
  Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal considerations 
etc.� Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.� Powered by a Netonics doing 54 
volts.� 
  �
  It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.� They say 2 
amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.� I think they actually mean it.� I was 
hoping it would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will not.� So I have a roll 
of smt fuses that are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I 
release a 1.5 amp and a 2 amp version of this product.� 
  �
  RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.� 2 amps would be 
a good generic value.� Not sure whether to offer two different amp ratings or 
one.� 



Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license.

2017-05-19 Thread Rick Harnish
Prices have ranged from $500 to $4500. It is very hard to find lower priced licenses anymore. Respectfully,Rick HarnishDirector of WISP MarketsDirect: 972.922.1443Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc.Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DroidOn May 19, 2017 5:54 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists  wrote:There is some legs work included in the number I provided.  YMMVJeff BroadwickConVergence Technologies, Inc.312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadwick@converge-tech.comOn May 19, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:Sold mine for $500On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM Jeff Broadwick - Lists  wrote:Rick Harnish has a small secondary market for them.  Will run $3K or so overall.  He's helped a few of my customers.Jeff BroadwickConVergence Technologies, Inc.312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadwick@converge-tech.comOn May 19, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:What options exist right now for getting a license to use 3.65 gear? For example if we wanted to try out some of the LTE gear available. Thanks Brandon 




Re: [AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread George Skorup
Remember that Forrest's SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector products 
allow 2A per port. But maybe it doesn't matter because of the built-in 
current protection?


Also consider that something like a Medusa could be running on battery 
power for >30 minutes. Say 75W @ 44VDC = ~1.71A worst case. I say 75W 
due to variables (cable length, etc). It's fine if your supply is always 
56VDC. I use a lot of Traco BCMU360s which are regulated 48VDC, which 
then becomes ~1.57A. Well, it dips down to about 46 volts or so when the 
battery is getting low. I'm sure there are/will be folks wanting to run 
a 450m on a Netonix. Maybe it doesn't matter because the Netonix 
internal DC-DC always puts out 54VDC, doesn't it? I don't know.


On 5/19/2017 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.  It is an Ethernet 
fuse board.   Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an 
CAT5/6 circuit.  If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, 
this fuse board will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.  Have 
LEDS on 4 of the 8 pins to detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.
Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.  Did the first run of 
the pre-production part and started testing.  I tweaked the fuses to 
blow about a bit over 2 amps.
Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal 
considerations etc.  Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.  Powered by a 
Netonics doing 54 volts.
It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.  They 
say 2 amps surge, 1.5 amps continuous.  I think they _actually mean 
it_.  I was hoping it would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will 
not.  So I have a roll of smt fuses that are worth about $650 that I 
will not be using unless I release a 1.5 amp and a 2 amp version of 
this product.
RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.  2 amps 
would be a good generic value.  Not sure whether to offer two 
different amp ratings or one.




Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license.

2017-05-19 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Um...legal...

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

> On May 19, 2017, at 5:54 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists  wrote:
> 
> There is some legs work included in the number I provided.  YMMV
> 
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
> 
>> On May 19, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
>> 
>> Sold mine for $500
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM Jeff Broadwick - Lists  
>>> wrote:
>>> Rick Harnish has a small secondary market for them.  Will run $3K or so 
>>> overall.  He's helped a few of my customers.
>>> 
>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>> 
 On May 19, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Brandon Yuchasz  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
 What options exist right now for getting a license to use 3.65 gear? For 
 example if we wanted to try out some of the LTE gear available.
 
  
 
>>> 
 Thanks Brandon
 
  


[AFMUG] Netonix POE

2017-05-19 Thread chuck
I made a circuit board that fits into the APC rack.  It is an Ethernet fuse 
board.   Kinda a belt and suspenders for maximum protection of an CAT5/6 
circuit.  If a surge suppressor clamps during a major event, this fuse board 
will blow to prevent damage to a POE supply.  Have LEDS on 4 of the 8 pins to 
detect blown fuses if it is a POE circuit.  

Been tweaking the fuse values for about a month.  Did the first run of the 
pre-production part and started testing.  I tweaked the fuses to blow about a 
bit over 2 amps.  

Started doing some long term burn in runs to check thermal considerations etc.  
Had the load dialed in to 2 amps.  Powered by a Netonics doing 54 volts.  

It ran for about a half hour before blowing the Netonix port.  They say 2 amps 
surge, 1.5 amps continuous.  I think they actually mean it.  I was hoping it 
would survive 2 amps continuous, but it will not.  So I have a roll of smt 
fuses that are worth about $650 that I will not be using unless I release a 1.5 
amp and a 2 amp version of this product.  

RJ45 pins are rated at a half amp each so 2 amps per jack.  2 amps would be a 
good generic value.  Not sure whether to offer two different amp ratings or 
one.  

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license.

2017-05-19 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
There is some legs work included in the number I provided.  YMMV

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

> On May 19, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
> 
> Sold mine for $500
> 
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM Jeff Broadwick - Lists  
>> wrote:
>> Rick Harnish has a small secondary market for them.  Will run $3K or so 
>> overall.  He's helped a few of my customers.
>> 
>> Jeff Broadwick
>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>> 312-205-2519 Office
>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Brandon Yuchasz  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> What options exist right now for getting a license to use 3.65 gear? For 
>>> example if we wanted to try out some of the LTE gear available.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks Brandon
>>> 
>>>  


Re: [AFMUG] Water tower lease survey to satisfy my town commisioners

2017-05-19 Thread Mitch Koep
We pay 50.00/month per attachment (min of 3) and pay the city 
35.00/month for electricity


or

We have our own meter put in just saves money to pay them

Mitch


On 05/19/2017 01:51 PM, Al Rachide wrote:
We are wanting to rent space on our town's water tower, but the 
commissioners want an idea as to what is a fair and proper annual or 
monthly lease payment for this. This tower has a fiber connection near 
it, so it may be worth a bit more than a non lit water tower. How do 
you handle the electric? We have head that some include it in the 
lease, while others require a separate metered service for the WISP.


Thanks, in advance, for any help we can get on this.

--
Al Rachide
Eastern Carolina Broadband
Pink Hill, NC
252-521-0637

 
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A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell



Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license.

2017-05-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
Sold mine for $500

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
wrote:

> Rick Harnish has a small secondary market for them.  Will run $3K or so
> overall.  He's helped a few of my customers.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On May 19, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Brandon Yuchasz 
> wrote:
>
> What options exist right now for getting a license to use 3.65 gear? For
> example if we wanted to try out some of the LTE gear available.
>
>
>
> Thanks Brandon
>
>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Water tower lease survey to satisfy my town commisioners

2017-05-19 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
We pay 0 (free internet) to 600/mo. Top end has fiber access from 2 carriers.



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Al Rachide 
Date: 5/19/17 1:51 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Water tower lease survey to satisfy my town commisioners

We are wanting to rent space on our town's water tower, but the commissioners 
want an idea as to what is a fair and proper annual or monthly lease payment 
for this. This tower has a fiber connection near it, so it may be worth a bit 
more than a non lit water tower. How do you handle the electric? We have head 
that some include it in the lease, while others require a separate metered 
service for the WISP.

Thanks, in advance, for any help we can get on this.

--
Al Rachide
Eastern Carolina Broadband
Pink Hill, NC
252-521-0637

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[AFMUG] Water tower lease survey to satisfy my town commisioners

2017-05-19 Thread Al Rachide
We are wanting to rent space on our town's water tower, but the
commissioners want an idea as to what is a fair and proper annual or
monthly lease payment for this. This tower has a fiber connection near it,
so it may be worth a bit more than a non lit water tower. How do you handle
the electric? We have head that some include it in the lease, while others
require a separate metered service for the WISP.

Thanks, in advance, for any help we can get on this.

-- 
Al Rachide
Eastern Carolina Broadband
Pink Hill, NC
252-521-0637


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Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

2017-05-19 Thread SmarterBroadband
They have to take pictures.  Mounting, cable run, wall penetration, inside, etc.

We also check AP and CPE rx levels, CINR, mcs, link test etc.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:54 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

 

Do you have someone go out to each site to make sure things were done right?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

 

You may want to consider bonuses.  Instead of giving a Hourly Rate increase we 
started giving a successful install bonus.

Each installer gets a bonus for his successful installs.  Must be to our 
specifications.  

Front office gets a bonus based on all successful installs per week.

Bonuses are paid two weeks after the install, this gives time to check specs 
and ensure no complaints.

 

All staff know that if the company was to shrink (hope not), bonuses could be 
reduced or go away.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:48 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org  ; af@afmug.com 
 
Subject: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

 

Just sitting here thinking about raises...

 

For those of you with employees, care to share what you pay for:

 

Office support staff-

Field installers / repair tech -

Tower tech -

 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr.   
Franklin, IN 46131   
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net

 

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[AFMUG] Final hours to vote for the Cambium Community

2017-05-19 Thread Ray Savich
Final  Hours to vote! The Cambium Community is a finalist for the Lithium 
Social Media Award. Give our application a kudo. 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Welcome-Board/Vote-for-the-Cambium-Community/m-p/72924#U72924

Join the Conversation
Cambium Networks Community Forum



Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

2017-05-19 Thread Jason McKemie
Interesting.  Given the other picks on this list, a WISP is certainly the
odd-man-out.

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Ken Patrick  wrote:

> No it doesn't. But you get the opportunity to work with one of the Top
> startups in the last batch of Y Combinator
> https://techcrunch.com/gallery/y-combinator/slide/4/
> 
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 5:19 PM Keefe John  wrote:
>
>> Does it come with a $1,000,000 bonus from a Nigerian prince? All you have
>> to do is send your bank account information.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2017 4:35:52 AM CDT, Ken Patrick  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Please find job description for Large WISP based in Lagos, Nigeria.
>>> We have been covered in Techcrunch
>>> 
>>> and Muniwireless
>>> 
>>> .
>>> We also have openings for Operations folks with  less experience than
>>> below.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Chief Technology Officer – CTO*
>>>
>>> TIZETI Inc. is looking for a Chief Technical Officer to work in Lagos,
>>> Nigeria
>>>
>>>
>>> *ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES*
>>>
>>> · Monitoring new technologies and assessing their potential to
>>> become new products or services, Overseeing the selection of projects to
>>> insure that they have the potential to add value to the company, Explain
>>> company products and future plans to the trade media
>>>
>>> · Participating in government and industry groups
>>>
>>> · Integrating technology-based activities into the corporate
>>> strategy
>>>
>>> · Make decisions about which technologies are most likely to
>>> generate the highest rate of return
>>>
>>> · Deal with strategic decisions about the future direction of
>>> the company
>>>
>>> · Developing new products based on new technology
>>>
>>> · Improve our core Unlimited Internet Service offering
>>>
>>> · Must be able to communicate clearly and effectively with
>>> people from all types of backgrounds.
>>>
>>> *Requirements*
>>>
>>> This is an executive-level, highly responsible position directing TIZETI
>>> Inc. activities of communications, computer operations, systems management,
>>> and network administration and programming functions.
>>>
>>> · Minimum 7 years’ experience in the Wireless ISP or Telecom
>>> field and role in Senior Management.
>>>
>>> · Experience with Cisco Networking equipment
>>>
>>> · Experience with Ubiquiti and Cambium based Wireless Network
>>>
>>> · Experience running licensed and Mitigating interference in
>>> Unlicensed Frequencies wireless networks
>>>
>>> · Experience with MicroWave and mmWave networks
>>>
>>> · Working Knowledge of Linux
>>>
>>> · Knowledge of PHP is an Asset
>>>
>>> · Willing to work out of Lagos, Nigeria
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *APPLICATION PROCESS*
>>>
>>> Please send resume and cover letter to car...@tizeti.com
>>>  or reply
>>> to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *About TIZETI*
>>>
>>> TIZETI Inc. dba Wifi.com.ng is the Wireless “ISP for Africa”. We are
>>> backed by Y Combinator and are leveraging the large wireless capacity
>>> available with Wi-fi and plummeting cost of solar panels to create a low
>>> capex/opex network of owned & operated towers to offer disruptive,
>>> customer-friendly pricing for unlimited internet. Our coverage is in Lagos,
>>> Nigeria and we are expanding to the South South Region as well as other
>>> cities in West Africa.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

2017-05-19 Thread Ken Patrick
No it doesn't. But you get the opportunity to work with one of the Top
startups in the last batch of Y Combinator
https://techcrunch.com/gallery/y-combinator/slide/4/


Regards


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 5:19 PM Keefe John  wrote:

> Does it come with a $1,000,000 bonus from a Nigerian prince? All you have
> to do is send your bank account information.
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2017 4:35:52 AM CDT, Ken Patrick  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please find job description for Large WISP based in Lagos, Nigeria.
>> We have been covered in Techcrunch
>> 
>> and Muniwireless
>> 
>> .
>> We also have openings for Operations folks with  less experience than
>> below.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Chief Technology Officer – CTO*
>>
>> TIZETI Inc. is looking for a Chief Technical Officer to work in Lagos,
>> Nigeria
>>
>>
>> *ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES*
>>
>> · Monitoring new technologies and assessing their potential to
>> become new products or services, Overseeing the selection of projects to
>> insure that they have the potential to add value to the company, Explain
>> company products and future plans to the trade media
>>
>> · Participating in government and industry groups
>>
>> · Integrating technology-based activities into the corporate
>> strategy
>>
>> · Make decisions about which technologies are most likely to
>> generate the highest rate of return
>>
>> · Deal with strategic decisions about the future direction of
>> the company
>>
>> · Developing new products based on new technology
>>
>> · Improve our core Unlimited Internet Service offering
>>
>> · Must be able to communicate clearly and effectively with
>> people from all types of backgrounds.
>>
>> *Requirements*
>>
>> This is an executive-level, highly responsible position directing TIZETI
>> Inc. activities of communications, computer operations, systems management,
>> and network administration and programming functions.
>>
>> · Minimum 7 years’ experience in the Wireless ISP or Telecom
>> field and role in Senior Management.
>>
>> · Experience with Cisco Networking equipment
>>
>> · Experience with Ubiquiti and Cambium based Wireless Network
>>
>> · Experience running licensed and Mitigating interference in
>> Unlicensed Frequencies wireless networks
>>
>> · Experience with MicroWave and mmWave networks
>>
>> · Working Knowledge of Linux
>>
>> · Knowledge of PHP is an Asset
>>
>> · Willing to work out of Lagos, Nigeria
>>
>>
>>
>> *APPLICATION PROCESS*
>>
>> Please send resume and cover letter to car...@tizeti.com
>>  or reply
>> to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> *About TIZETI*
>>
>> TIZETI Inc. dba Wifi.com.ng is the Wireless “ISP for Africa”. We are
>> backed by Y Combinator and are leveraging the large wireless capacity
>> available with Wi-fi and plummeting cost of solar panels to create a low
>> capex/opex network of owned & operated towers to offer disruptive,
>> customer-friendly pricing for unlimited internet. Our coverage is in Lagos,
>> Nigeria and we are expanding to the South South Region as well as other
>> cities in West Africa.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>


Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

2017-05-19 Thread Keefe John
Does it come with a $1,000,000 bonus from a Nigerian prince? All you have to do 
is send your bank account information.


On May 19, 2017 4:35:52 AM CDT, Ken Patrick  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Please find job description for Large WISP based in Lagos, Nigeria.
>We have been covered in Techcrunch
>
>and Muniwireless
>.
>We also have openings for Operations folks with  less experience than
>below.
>
>
>
>*Chief Technology Officer – CTO*
>
>TIZETI Inc. is looking for a Chief Technical Officer to work in Lagos,
>Nigeria
>
>
>*ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES*
>
>· Monitoring new technologies and assessing their potential to
>become new products or services, Overseeing the selection of projects
>to
>insure that they have the potential to add value to the company,
>Explain
>company products and future plans to the trade media
>
>· Participating in government and industry groups
>
>· Integrating technology-based activities into the corporate
>strategy
>
>· Make decisions about which technologies are most likely to
>generate the highest rate of return
>
>· Deal with strategic decisions about the future direction of
>the
>company
>
>· Developing new products based on new technology
>
>· Improve our core Unlimited Internet Service offering
>
>· Must be able to communicate clearly and effectively with
>people
>from all types of backgrounds.
>
>*Requirements*
>
>This is an executive-level, highly responsible position directing
>TIZETI
>Inc. activities of communications, computer operations, systems
>management,
>and network administration and programming functions.
>
>· Minimum 7 years’ experience in the Wireless ISP or Telecom
>field
>and role in Senior Management.
>
>· Experience with Cisco Networking equipment
>
>· Experience with Ubiquiti and Cambium based Wireless Network
>
>· Experience running licensed and Mitigating interference in
>Unlicensed Frequencies wireless networks
>
>· Experience with MicroWave and mmWave networks
>
>· Working Knowledge of Linux
>
>· Knowledge of PHP is an Asset
>
>· Willing to work out of Lagos, Nigeria
>
>
>
>*APPLICATION PROCESS*
>
>Please send resume and cover letter to car...@tizeti.com
> or reply
>to
>me.
>
>
>
>*About TIZETI*
>
>TIZETI Inc. dba Wifi.com.ng is the Wireless “ISP for Africa”. We are
>backed
>by Y Combinator and are leveraging the large wireless capacity
>available
>with Wi-fi and plummeting cost of solar panels to create a low
>capex/opex
>network of owned & operated towers to offer disruptive,
>customer-friendly
>pricing for unlimited internet. Our coverage is in Lagos, Nigeria and
>we
>are expanding to the South South Region as well as other cities in West
>Africa.

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license.

2017-05-19 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Rick Harnish has a small secondary market for them.  Will run $3K or so 
overall.  He's helped a few of my customers.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

> On May 19, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:
> 
> What options exist right now for getting a license to use 3.65 gear? For 
> example if we wanted to try out some of the LTE gear available.
>  
> Thanks Brandon
>  


Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

2017-05-19 Thread Bill Prince

and a flak jacket...

bp


On 5/19/2017 7:27 AM, Mitch Koep wrote:

Hope the job comes with a "Get out of Jail Free" card




Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license.

2017-05-19 Thread Mitch Koep

Brandon

Hit me off list

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell

mi...@abwisp.com


On 05/19/2017 09:35 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 5/19/17 7:31 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

What options exist right now for getting a license to use 3.65 gear? For
example if we wanted to try out some of the LTE gear available.





You would need to buy one from someone who isn't using it.

~Seth



--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell



Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license.

2017-05-19 Thread Seth Mattinen

On 5/19/17 7:31 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

What options exist right now for getting a license to use 3.65 gear? For
example if we wanted to try out some of the LTE gear available.





You would need to buy one from someone who isn't using it.

~Seth


[AFMUG] 3.65 license.

2017-05-19 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
What options exist right now for getting a license to use 3.65 gear? For
example if we wanted to try out some of the LTE gear available.

 

Thanks Brandon

 



Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

2017-05-19 Thread Ken Patrick
You sure about that ? Never heard of that


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:24 PM Cameron Crum  wrote:

> Isn't this where they are tearing out equipment and arresting people for
> providing internet?
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:35 AM, Ken Patrick  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please find job description for Large WISP based in Lagos, Nigeria.
>> We have been covered in Techcrunch
>> 
>> and Muniwireless
>> 
>> .
>> We also have openings for Operations folks with  less experience than
>> below.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Chief Technology Officer – CTO*
>>
>> TIZETI Inc. is looking for a Chief Technical Officer to work in Lagos,
>> Nigeria
>>
>>
>> *ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES*
>>
>> · Monitoring new technologies and assessing their potential to
>> become new products or services, Overseeing the selection of projects to
>> insure that they have the potential to add value to the company, Explain
>> company products and future plans to the trade media
>>
>> · Participating in government and industry groups
>>
>> · Integrating technology-based activities into the corporate
>> strategy
>>
>> · Make decisions about which technologies are most likely to
>> generate the highest rate of return
>>
>> · Deal with strategic decisions about the future direction of
>> the company
>>
>> · Developing new products based on new technology
>>
>> · Improve our core Unlimited Internet Service offering
>>
>> · Must be able to communicate clearly and effectively with
>> people from all types of backgrounds.
>>
>> *Requirements*
>>
>> This is an executive-level, highly responsible position directing TIZETI
>> Inc. activities of communications, computer operations, systems management,
>> and network administration and programming functions.
>>
>> · Minimum 7 years’ experience in the Wireless ISP or Telecom
>> field and role in Senior Management.
>>
>> · Experience with Cisco Networking equipment
>>
>> · Experience with Ubiquiti and Cambium based Wireless Network
>>
>> · Experience running licensed and Mitigating interference in
>> Unlicensed Frequencies wireless networks
>>
>> · Experience with MicroWave and mmWave networks
>>
>> · Working Knowledge of Linux
>>
>> · Knowledge of PHP is an Asset
>>
>> · Willing to work out of Lagos, Nigeria
>>
>>
>>
>> *APPLICATION PROCESS*
>>
>> Please send resume and cover letter to car...@tizeti.com
>>  or reply
>> to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> *About TIZETI*
>>
>> TIZETI Inc. dba Wifi.com.ng is the Wireless “ISP for Africa”. We are
>> backed by Y Combinator and are leveraging the large wireless capacity
>> available with Wi-fi and plummeting cost of solar panels to create a low
>> capex/opex network of owned & operated towers to offer disruptive,
>> customer-friendly pricing for unlimited internet. Our coverage is in Lagos,
>> Nigeria and we are expanding to the South South Region as well as other
>> cities in West Africa.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

2017-05-19 Thread Mitch Koep

Hope the job comes with a "Get out of Jail Free" card


On 05/19/2017 09:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Isn't this where they are tearing out equipment and arresting people 
for providing internet?


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:35 AM, Ken Patrick > wrote:


Hi,

Please find job description for Large WISP based in Lagos, Nigeria.
We have been covered in Techcrunch


and Muniwireless
.
We also have openings for Operations folks with  less experience
than below.

*_Chief Technology Officer – CTO_*

TIZETI Inc. is looking for a Chief Technical Officer to work in
Lagos, Nigeria


*_ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES_*

·Monitoring new technologies and assessing their potential to
become new products or services, Overseeing the selection of
projects to insure that they have the potential to add value to
the company, Explain company products and future plans to the
trade media

·Participating in government and industry groups

·Integrating technology-based activities into the corporate strategy

·Make decisions about which technologies are most likely to
generate the highest rate of return

·Deal with strategic decisions about the future direction of the
company

·Developing new products based on new technology

·Improve our core Unlimited Internet Service offering

·Must be able to communicate clearly and effectively with people
from all types of backgrounds.

*_Requirements_*

This is an executive-level, highly responsible position directing
TIZETI Inc. activities of communications, computer operations,
systems management, and network administration and programming
functions.

·Minimum 7 years’ experience in the Wireless ISP or Telecom field
and role in Senior Management.

·Experience with Cisco Networking equipment

·Experience with Ubiquiti and Cambium based Wireless Network

·Experience running licensed and Mitigating interference in
Unlicensed Frequencies wireless networks

·Experience with MicroWave and mmWave networks

·Working Knowledge of Linux

·Knowledge of PHP is an Asset

·Willing to work out of Lagos, Nigeria

*_APPLICATION PROCESS_*

Please send resume and cover letter to car...@tizeti.com
 or
reply to me.

*__*

*_About TIZETI_*

TIZETI Inc. dba Wifi.com.ng  is the Wireless
“ISP for Africa”. We are backed by Y Combinator and are leveraging
the large wireless capacity available with Wi-fi and plummeting
cost of solar panels to create a low capex/opex network of owned &
operated towers to offer disruptive, customer-friendly pricing for
unlimited internet. Our coverage is in Lagos, Nigeria and we are
expanding to the South South Region as well as other cities in
West Africa.





--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell



Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

2017-05-19 Thread Cameron Crum
Isn't this where they are tearing out equipment and arresting people for
providing internet?

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:35 AM, Ken Patrick  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please find job description for Large WISP based in Lagos, Nigeria.
> We have been covered in Techcrunch
> 
> and Muniwireless
> 
> .
> We also have openings for Operations folks with  less experience than
> below.
>
>
>
> *Chief Technology Officer – CTO*
>
> TIZETI Inc. is looking for a Chief Technical Officer to work in Lagos,
> Nigeria
>
>
> *ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES*
>
> · Monitoring new technologies and assessing their potential to
> become new products or services, Overseeing the selection of projects to
> insure that they have the potential to add value to the company, Explain
> company products and future plans to the trade media
>
> · Participating in government and industry groups
>
> · Integrating technology-based activities into the corporate
> strategy
>
> · Make decisions about which technologies are most likely to
> generate the highest rate of return
>
> · Deal with strategic decisions about the future direction of the
> company
>
> · Developing new products based on new technology
>
> · Improve our core Unlimited Internet Service offering
>
> · Must be able to communicate clearly and effectively with people
> from all types of backgrounds.
>
> *Requirements*
>
> This is an executive-level, highly responsible position directing TIZETI
> Inc. activities of communications, computer operations, systems management,
> and network administration and programming functions.
>
> · Minimum 7 years’ experience in the Wireless ISP or Telecom
> field and role in Senior Management.
>
> · Experience with Cisco Networking equipment
>
> · Experience with Ubiquiti and Cambium based Wireless Network
>
> · Experience running licensed and Mitigating interference in
> Unlicensed Frequencies wireless networks
>
> · Experience with MicroWave and mmWave networks
>
> · Working Knowledge of Linux
>
> · Knowledge of PHP is an Asset
>
> · Willing to work out of Lagos, Nigeria
>
>
>
> *APPLICATION PROCESS*
>
> Please send resume and cover letter to car...@tizeti.com
>  or reply
> to me.
>
>
>
> *About TIZETI*
>
> TIZETI Inc. dba Wifi.com.ng is the Wireless “ISP for Africa”. We are
> backed by Y Combinator and are leveraging the large wireless capacity
> available with Wi-fi and plummeting cost of solar panels to create a low
> capex/opex network of owned & operated towers to offer disruptive,
> customer-friendly pricing for unlimited internet. Our coverage is in Lagos,
> Nigeria and we are expanding to the South South Region as well as other
> cities in West Africa.
>
>
>
>


[AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

2017-05-19 Thread Ken Patrick
Hi,

Please find job description for Large WISP based in Lagos, Nigeria.
We have been covered in Techcrunch

and Muniwireless
.
We also have openings for Operations folks with  less experience than below.



*Chief Technology Officer – CTO*

TIZETI Inc. is looking for a Chief Technical Officer to work in Lagos,
Nigeria


*ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES*

· Monitoring new technologies and assessing their potential to
become new products or services, Overseeing the selection of projects to
insure that they have the potential to add value to the company, Explain
company products and future plans to the trade media

· Participating in government and industry groups

· Integrating technology-based activities into the corporate
strategy

· Make decisions about which technologies are most likely to
generate the highest rate of return

· Deal with strategic decisions about the future direction of the
company

· Developing new products based on new technology

· Improve our core Unlimited Internet Service offering

· Must be able to communicate clearly and effectively with people
from all types of backgrounds.

*Requirements*

This is an executive-level, highly responsible position directing TIZETI
Inc. activities of communications, computer operations, systems management,
and network administration and programming functions.

· Minimum 7 years’ experience in the Wireless ISP or Telecom field
and role in Senior Management.

· Experience with Cisco Networking equipment

· Experience with Ubiquiti and Cambium based Wireless Network

· Experience running licensed and Mitigating interference in
Unlicensed Frequencies wireless networks

· Experience with MicroWave and mmWave networks

· Working Knowledge of Linux

· Knowledge of PHP is an Asset

· Willing to work out of Lagos, Nigeria



*APPLICATION PROCESS*

Please send resume and cover letter to car...@tizeti.com
 or reply to
me.



*About TIZETI*

TIZETI Inc. dba Wifi.com.ng is the Wireless “ISP for Africa”. We are backed
by Y Combinator and are leveraging the large wireless capacity available
with Wi-fi and plummeting cost of solar panels to create a low capex/opex
network of owned & operated towers to offer disruptive, customer-friendly
pricing for unlimited internet. Our coverage is in Lagos, Nigeria and we
are expanding to the South South Region as well as other cities in West
Africa.