[AFMUG] Procera, what features are important?
We are evaluating Procera again. In our deployment we will need two boxes working in tandem. For those of you using it, what addons/features do you find important and must have?
Re: [AFMUG] N-Male to RP-SMA pigtails
Just email Shireen. They make all of our cables nowadays. Really good quality, fast, and cheap. I know right? http://www.shireeninc.com/low-loss-rf-coax-cables-uv-rated/ Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 12/19/2014 03:07 PM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: Hey all, We normally only use RP-SMA pigtails from radio to antenna but we now need to find some good pigtails that are N-Male to RP-SMA. Does anyone have a good quality cable with low loss and if so, what distributor and part # of the pigtail you order? Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com http://www.mnwifi.com/ 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
They're coming to take me away Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 12/17/2014 12:18 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: Are they? *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of James Howard via Af [af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:17 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX They�re? *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX You are all communists.. You are right. You are? you're *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014a59e41275-3e58e7d2-8636-43ab-967c-badfa254f128-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2929320849domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2929320849domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list /You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list./
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
I use 3M Dual Lock http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Adhesives/Tapes/Brands/Dual-Lock-Reclosable-Fasteners/ It works at really low and high temps. Its like velcro but WAY better. Sticks to anything. You can buy it in long rolls and cut it to the size you need. The next step is training everyone to carry it with them when they go to a site to fix something. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 09:20 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Amazon Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 07:58 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Matt, Where do you get that stuff? Looks great! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 8:02 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I use 3M Dual Lock http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Adhesives/Tapes/Brands/Dual-Lock-Reclosable-Fasteners/ It works at really low and high temps. Its like velcro but WAY better. Sticks to anything. You can buy it in long rolls and cut it to the size you need. The next step is training everyone to carry it with them when they go to a site to fix something. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 09:20 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] For Cambium (and WBMFG)
Sounds like we need an AirFiber WaveGuide test adapter. Chuck, are you busy this Thanksgiving weekend? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 11/24/2014 01:44 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: If you were willing to hack apart an existing AF5, you could probably build waveguide from the hollow tubular center feed coming up from the PCB in the center of each of the two dishes, and run it to a waveguide-fed 5 GHz band dish... Such as a pair of 3' diameter Andrew/Commscope. Would probably require hacking of the end reflector of each integrated dish's feed and putting on a custom CNC machined, waveguide adapter. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a waveguide combiner\splitter? If they made both AFs connectorized, could you plumb them both into the same dish for the same path? Would obviously need a dish that accepted waveguide. No clue how the RF performance of a dish would be in both of those bands simultaneously. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 3:37:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] For Cambium I agree, I want an AF5 connectorized. From the perspective of ubnt engineering in Chicago, I bet a connectorized AF5 scares the hell out of them, because they're selling airfibers to enterprise/clueless customers that don't understand the technical properties of different types of PTP microwave dishes. If you could guarantee that a FDD, two dish AF5 setup was always installed with a pair of high quality, 70dB f/b ratio Jirous dishes or similar, it'd work great. When Bubba hooks up a connectorized AF5 to a random pair of noisy, low quality, unshielded PTP dishes, terrible things will happen. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Until they give me what I want (connectorized). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 3:32:48 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] For Cambium he's asking for a 12 mile link... if the goal is to maximize the clean, empty 5.x GHz spectrum for PtMP use by end user customers, an airfiber5 backhaul is ruled out. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Chuck Macenski via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Why not Zoidburg (airFiber)? On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: i would go licensed gear from SAF (or your favorite licensed PTP vendor). we keep all the unlicensed bands available for PMP...we use licensed for PTP. the difference between a wifi backhaul and a licensed backhaul is like the difference between a Ford Focus and a Ferrari F12berlinetta. they are both cars that drive on roads but that's about where the similarities end. same thing with backhauls. 2 cents -sean On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Cambium, Can you please make a suggestion as to what equipment that you recommend to us for this type of problem/solution? Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force For Cambium we have a very remote tower that feeds several other towers. Everything is OSPF but
Re: [AFMUG] What can cause Rx signal drop like this on 900 SM
Interference shouldn't cause a drop in DB level. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 11/21/2014 09:47 AM, David via Af wrote: That or neighbouring wisp with other gear. � On 11/21/2014 10:27 AM, Jerry Richardson via Af wrote: That my first guess as well, alignment. � *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 8:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What can cause Rx signal drop like this on 900 SM � We have seen this when a tree or branch fell on the SM.� Saw something like this when the SM was mounted on a tree and the tree fell down (amazingly, the SM stayed registered, even though the yagi was pointing into the ground). bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService � On 11/21/2014 7:12 AM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote: Attached Cacti plots show a sudden and significant drop in Rx signal from -56 to -65 around 10pm yesterday.� What can cause such a change?� The graphic shows 24 hours.� The SM says it has been registered for 21 hours since we rebooted AP to change channel so the gap in the middle is not a re-reg.� Must be a sample Cacti missed or is it?� Is it a coincidence this missing sample happens right when the signal level changes?� This is a P10 900 SM.� SM and AP running 13.1.3.� Link test is currently 100x100.� 0.3 miles from AP through some trees.� Very rural location.� AP at 65 feet AGL.� SM at 25 feet.� Eight other SMs on this same AP show absolutely no change in their signals when this specific SM has such a dramatic change.� Nothing special about weather last night.� This SM has been having these Rx signal swings for about 3 weeks.� AP has SM Tx power control set to -64. � On the previous channel it would drop when signal was at lower tier so we made this channel change.� None of the SMs hint at interference on any channel although another SM showed signs of interference too.� Our next closest 900 AP is 8.1 miles.� This SM reports beacon from only one AP.� All AP�s are GPS synced. � � PC Blaze Broadband � �
Re: [AFMUG] Need some WAN topology/protocol advice
+1 Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 11/19/2014 04:22 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Mpls. Create vpls tunnels to the edge, have all ip at the core Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 11/19/14, 6:04 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I know a lot of us here span networks across large areas and have multiple providers. I want my IP address space to be redundant and I guess I can either make sure I have a ring with OSPF/ static routes, or I can BGP. Since I sell to other providers that would like BGP and I would like to preserve my routing by /24 classes via BGP. Maybe I should just use BGP at each site/area? That would restrict me to keeping the sites at /24 class size or larger though, since external BGP doesn't like anything smaller. I think that's ok, but it does lend itself to waste if I come short of using the 254 IP's or I just break the barrier into another /24 for the site. But I can't think of any way around it without relying on infrastructure to ring me back to a central BGP point or two, using OSPF inside. What do you guys do?
Re: [AFMUG] Need some WAN topology/protocol advice
Is this for fiber? Are you building fiber rings? If so, you may want to look into G.8032v2 designs. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 11/19/2014 02:04 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: I know a lot of us here span networks across large areas and have multiple providers. I want my IP address space to be redundant and I guess I can either make sure I have a ring with OSPF/ static routes, or I can BGP. Since I sell to other providers that would like BGP and I would like to preserve my routing by /24 classes via BGP. Maybe I should just use BGP at each site/area? That would restrict me to keeping the sites at /24 class size or larger though, since external BGP doesn't like anything smaller. I think that's ok, but it does lend itself to waste if I come short of using the 254 IP's or I just break the barrier into another /24 for the site. But I can't think of any way around it without relying on infrastructure to ring me back to a central BGP point or two, using OSPF inside. What do you guys do?
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
+1 Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 11/13/2014 08:15 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af wrote: I’ll make a deal with you, the day you stop making me fill out the stupid form when I want to download a spec sheet, is the day that I will start to use your forum. And I am not joking. Please start the petition now by adding a +1 to this post. /Craig R. Schmaderer/ /CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc./ /Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058/ /Direct: 402-372-1052/ *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Mangriotis via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:12 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Not trying to take away from conversation here at all… AFMUG will never die! Just saying that more of the Cambium employees will see the messages at our community, so if there’s something that requires more Cambium eyes, it might get you an answer sooner to discuss there… *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Sounds like we need to have a rumble, Cambium can be the jets, we will be the Sharks, we need to find some broad named Maria On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Users keeping it strong on AFMUG. Cambium keeps trying to pull people to this 1998 forum =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: n On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Does it exist ?
I have deployed a few. Also tested them against the Cambium PMP450 5ghz Antenna. I didn't find them lacking. The case leaves something to be desired for quality, but they performed fine. I am using them and ordering more. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 11/03/2014 12:42 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: I know of ITElite � do they actually work well? Are there other options? Paul *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af *Sent:* Monday, November 03, 2014 3:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Does it exist ? Dual Polarity, Dual Band (2.4 / 5 Ghz) sector antennas? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service.
I am using an RB2011 as a VPLS NID to provide 100meg DIA to a customer. It works great. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 05:56 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: We do similar and if the customer doesnt have these things at the termination point we offer a lease or purchase for the extended equipment. I still cant get away from Mikrotiks CCR routers instead of the latter. On 10/29/2014 7:29 PM, Paul Stewart via Af wrote: That pricing is similar to what we charge when using PTP600 directly back to a fiber fed hub site. At the customer site, we install an APC 1500 UPS (with SNMP management) and a Juniper SRX router - fully managed and monitored from NOC. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:00 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service. Base Price: 1yr Contract: $1980/mo 2yr Contract: $1870/mo 3yr Contract: $1760/mo We negotiate discounts from those prices. Usually end up giving customers 20-30% off to make a deal. DIA services are always negotiable. Sometimes we have to add to them to deal with all the upgrades necessary to get to the customer. Install depends on required equipment. Airfiber is usually not a big deal. Licensed link could be the cost of the link spread over term of contract. You also have to consider what it takes from your backbone to deliver that. How many sites from your upstream is it? Do you need to charge enough to cover future upgrades to your backhauls, routers, etc? What about upgrades to UPSes in the path? Just some things to consider. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 01:25 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: No Comcast here. No ATT here. Others as well. Only real competition at this site would be bonded T1 lines. Qty 1 T1 in this location would be ~~ $500 per month. There might be another Wireless provider that could get through the hole in the trees, but the number would be very, very limited. bp On 10/29/2014 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: What are Comcast\TW\ATT\Zayo\etc. selling 100 megs for? That's where you want to sell your 100 megs, assuming you're not losing your ass at that rate. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+Intelligent ComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligen t-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL - --- *From: *Bill Prince via Afaf@afmug.com *To: *Motorola IIIaf@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:57:39 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service. We have a new subscriber we're providing dedicated 24x24 service right now. He's asked for a quote for dedicated 100x100 service. The link is ~~ 8.5 miles. Right now, I'm thinking we need to put in a licensed link. The site is active with 2 PMP450 APs, and I do not want to interfere on a site with relatively tight spectrum demands, so anything in 5.8 is out of the question. I don't really need technical advice, but I'm looking for advice on how to price this. Typically, we charge 30-50 % of the equipment cost and then price the monthly recurring to recover the remaining equipment cost over 12 months. However, I would like to entertain alternatives. -- bp --
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
All will do 1gbps. I think these are listed in order of price. I am using Exalt now. Looking heavily at the PTP820c for QoS and OAM features. Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k) Exalt ExtremeAir with XPIC and 80mhz channel, 256QAM (~$25k) Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM (I think this is about $35k?) Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/28/2014 10:41 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote: What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now? I'm assuming it will be 80mhz and 2048qam+? On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Or thereabouts. Our newest link was engineered for -43. No smoke. bp On 10/28/2014 4:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: What do ya engineer it for? Most of the licensed stuff I've dealt with has been engineered to be hotter than -40. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the threshold required to run at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down to 256QAM and no longer be a 1 Gbps radio? If I recall right an IP20C requires an RSSI of something like -57.5 to operate at 2048QAM and will become a 256QAM radio at -63 or thereabouts. Not much fade margin. Not something you can reliably predict as a five nines true 1Gbps link pretending to be a fiber patch cable between two routers. Unless you're running it at sub-4km distances with 60cm size antennas and the normal RSL is -35.0 On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We just put up a Ceragon IP20c link last week, 3.5 miles, one 60Mhz frequency pair, 1030Mbps full duplex using 2048QAM, uses two cores (same frequency) in a single FODU chasis and a combiner on the antenna. Looks like any other single FODU install, very clean. Not inexpensive however. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Cambium PTP820c Exalt ExtremeAir Both will give you 1gig in a single radio. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 On 10/27/2014 03:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best bargain? *Peter Kranz *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 tel:510-868-1614%20x100 Mobile: 510-207- tel:510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting
If you want to mount a 4' dish on a non-pen mount use a Rohn BRM6 (http://www.rohnnet.com/filedownload/downloadfile/fileid/47/filenum/0/src/@random4a720ea8974f5). I prefer the BRM64510M so I can put the dish at whatever height I want. I have a 4' HP and a 3' HP dish on one of these with about 1500lbs of ballast. Yes thats a LOT of cinder blocks. Been there for years without missing a beat. I like running a 6 gauge ground wire from the mount to the building ground. We don't have grain anything in the forest so I don't know what kind of grounding might already be available for you. But usually there will be a ground rod sunk somewhere. Just run a massive ground wire to it and ground everything else to that. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/28/2014 10:24 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: I have two goals, mounting the bastard and grounding the bastard If you knew the volume of fecal matter I have had to ea tot get this achieved you would understand my very short fuse about dealing with dickheads like me that I have. I need to first mount this thing. Its likely to be a SAF link, and thats that. Im going to take a moment to say that regardless of what this final project ends up being, if you want one hell of a sales guy to work with, Jerrod from Moonblink(Jarrod Washington [jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com mailto:jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com]) is the shit, if you badmouth him, I will come to your house, I will castrate you, I will fry your man parts in olive oil, give them a slight garlic and rosemary seasoning and serve them to you over some white rice with a cane vinegar brandy. I float out told this guy that after he did all the work, my bosses would likely flat out price shop his parts list. He didnt blink and kept on doing his thing. If my daughter was old enough, Id marry her to him. In a perfect world, both sites will be non penetrating mounts. One side is 3' the other 4'. The side that wiull have the 4' hast the option of being mounted on a set of 25g we have running up the wall. The problem is the wall mount is currently only secured every 20' with a 2 deep concrete anchor, Im pretty sure this wont be sufficient for a 4' antenna (currently we only mount 2' parabolics to it) We have the option to plow through the wall with plates, but if we go to that expenses we might as well go to a full non pen for a 4 antenna at the top. Any advice on a non pen mount that can support a 4 parabolic? This side we can do pretty much whatever, but still want the smallest footprint. The other side, for non pen, our partner claims to have an 8' x 8' footprint mount, the best I ever specced was 10x10 so Im suspiscious. Both sites are grain elevators. Im looking for the minimum grounding to achieve a respectable level of protection. If you send me an NEC link, you have no value to me, Im not asking because I already know the NEC spec and just want to brag about my testicles. I just want a rough Idea of what it would take to get to a point where with factory spec installation of a Lumina I can meet the minimum ground/bond at an elevator and grow from there. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting
I checked our PO database and discovered I linked the wrong one. I use the BRM4 (http://www.rohnnet.com/filedownload/downloadfile/fileid/46/filenum/0/src/@random4a720e6be1bdd). Model: BRM44510 which has a 10ft 4.5 mast. Cost from Tessco is about $1000. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 06:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: What do these cost you? -Original Message- From: Matt Jenkins via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting If you want to mount a 4' dish on a non-pen mount use a Rohn BRM6 (http://www.rohnnet.com/filedownload/downloadfile/fileid/47/filenum/0/src/@random4a720ea8974f5). I prefer the BRM64510M so I can put the dish at whatever height I want. I have a 4' HP and a 3' HP dish on one of these with about 1500lbs of ballast. Yes thats a LOT of cinder blocks. Been there for years without missing a beat. I like running a 6 gauge ground wire from the mount to the building ground. We don't have grain anything in the forest so I don't know what kind of grounding might already be available for you. But usually there will be a ground rod sunk somewhere. Just run a massive ground wire to it and ground everything else to that. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/28/2014 10:24 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: I have two goals, mounting the bastard and grounding the bastard If you knew the volume of fecal matter I have had to ea tot get this achieved you would understand my very short fuse about dealing with dickheads like me that I have. I need to first mount this thing. Its likely to be a SAF link, and thats that. Im going to take a moment to say that regardless of what this final project ends up being, if you want one hell of a sales guy to work with, Jerrod from Moonblink(Jarrod Washington [jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com mailto:jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com]) is the shit, if you badmouth him, I will come to your house, I will castrate you, I will fry your man parts in olive oil, give them a slight garlic and rosemary seasoning and serve them to you over some white rice with a cane vinegar brandy. I float out told this guy that after he did all the work, my bosses would likely flat out price shop his parts list. He didnt blink and kept on doing his thing. If my daughter was old enough, Id marry her to him. In a perfect world, both sites will be non penetrating mounts. One side is 3' the other 4'. The side that wiull have the 4' hast the option of being mounted on a set of 25g we have running up the wall. The problem is the wall mount is currently only secured every 20' with a 2 deep concrete anchor, Im pretty sure this wont be sufficient for a 4' antenna (currently we only mount 2' parabolics to it) We have the option to plow through the wall with plates, but if we go to that expenses we might as well go to a full non pen for a 4 antenna at the top. Any advice on a non pen mount that can support a 4 parabolic? This side we can do pretty much whatever, but still want the smallest footprint. The other side, for non pen, our partner claims to have an 8' x 8' footprint mount, the best I ever specced was 10x10 so Im suspiscious. Both sites are grain elevators. Im looking for the minimum grounding to achieve a respectable level of protection. If you send me an NEC link, you have no value to me, Im not asking because I already know the NEC spec and just want to brag about my testicles. I just want a rough Idea of what it would take to get to a point where with factory spec installation of a Lumina I can meet the minimum ground/bond at an elevator and grow from there. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
Last time I looked at SAF Integra it didn't do 1gig in 11ghz on one channel with XPIC. Also I don't have to combine the data at the bottom of the tower. Its all one radio interface which is much easier for routing. For us those were huge requirements. Exalt has done that for a couple of years. PTP820c looks better since it will have full QoS control and OAM. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 10:28 AM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote: matt i'd suggest looking at the SAF integra. You could almost buy 2 links for the prices you quoted from the other brands ;-) On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: All will do 1gbps. I think these are listed in order of price. I am using Exalt now. Looking heavily at the PTP820c for QoS and OAM features. Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k) Exalt ExtremeAir with XPIC and 80mhz channel, 256QAM (~$25k) Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM (I think this is about $35k?) Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 On 10/28/2014 10:41 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote: What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now? I'm assuming it will be 80mhz and 2048qam+? On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Or thereabouts. Our newest link was engineered for -43. No smoke. bp On 10/28/2014 4:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: What do ya engineer it for? Most of the licensed stuff I've dealt with has been engineered to be hotter than -40. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the threshold required to run at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down to 256QAM and no longer be a 1 Gbps radio? If I recall right an IP20C requires an RSSI of something like -57.5 to operate at 2048QAM and will become a 256QAM radio at -63 or thereabouts. Not much fade margin. Not something you can reliably predict as a five nines true 1Gbps link pretending to be a fiber patch cable between two routers. Unless you're running it at sub-4km distances with 60cm size antennas and the normal RSL is -35.0 On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We just put up a Ceragon IP20c link last week, 3.5 miles, one 60Mhz frequency pair, 1030Mbps full duplex using 2048QAM, uses two cores (same frequency) in a single FODU chasis and a combiner on the antenna. Looks like any other single FODU install, very clean. Not inexpensive however. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Cambium PTP820c Exalt ExtremeAir Both will give you 1gig in a single radio. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 On 10/27/2014 03:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
Right. The price was meant as a very rough estimate. Quantity discounts from vendors and different feature sets can change those prices quite a bit too. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 11:43 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af wrote: There are a large number of possible software licenses available for these platforms that can really move the price around. Some are needed, others unlikely for most of our applications. Hard to compare like for like without a side by side BOM comparison. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That's my current understanding. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some unmentioned caveats. bp On 10/29/2014 10:05 AM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: A question on your list: Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k) Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM (I think this is about $35k?) These are the same radios right? So I assume the PTP820c can do 2048QAM as well..? but it sounds like its being offered for a lower price than the Ceragon variant? Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service.
Base Price: 1yr Contract: $1980/mo 2yr Contract: $1870/mo 3yr Contract: $1760/mo We negotiate discounts from those prices. Usually end up giving customers 20-30% off to make a deal. DIA services are always negotiable. Sometimes we have to add to them to deal with all the upgrades necessary to get to the customer. Install depends on required equipment. Airfiber is usually not a big deal. Licensed link could be the cost of the link spread over term of contract. You also have to consider what it takes from your backbone to deliver that. How many sites from your upstream is it? Do you need to charge enough to cover future upgrades to your backhauls, routers, etc? What about upgrades to UPSes in the path? Just some things to consider. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 01:25 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: No Comcast here. No ATT here. Others as well. Only real competition at this site would be bonded T1 lines. Qty 1 T1 in this location would be ~~ $500 per month. There might be another Wireless provider that could get through the hole in the trees, but the number would be very, very limited. bp On 10/29/2014 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: What are Comcast\TW\ATT\Zayo\etc. selling 100 megs for? That's where you want to sell your 100 megs, assuming you're not losing your ass at that rate. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com *To: *Motorola III af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:57:39 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service. We have a new subscriber we're providing dedicated 24x24 service right now. He's asked for a quote for dedicated 100x100 service. The link is ~~ 8.5 miles. Right now, I'm thinking we need to put in a licensed link. The site is active with 2 PMP450 APs, and I do not want to interfere on a site with relatively tight spectrum demands, so anything in 5.8 is out of the question. I don't really need technical advice, but I'm looking for advice on how to price this. Typically, we charge 30-50 % of the equipment cost and then price the monthly recurring to recover the remaining equipment cost over 12 months. However, I would like to entertain alternatives. -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
Cambium PTP820c Exalt ExtremeAir Both will give you 1gig in a single radio. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/27/2014 03:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best bargain? *Peter Kranz *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP feature
I found room by replacing most of our Ubnt. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/28/2014 08:50 AM, Heith Petersen via Af wrote: Great! I will need to look again, and try to find a place in this congested network to finally deploy -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP feature Yep you can. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/28/2014 07:43 AM, Heith Petersen via Af wrote: I haven�t looked at mine for 6 months, still on the bench. On the newest firmware are you able to view SNMP or IP via the AP interface, and maybe clickable links? Last time I looked I could only see the MAC address and stats Heith *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Wireless Admin via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:12 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] ePMP feature Anyone know when Cambium is going to add a management IP address for ePMP when configured to run NAT/PPPoE. The lack of management IP is really getting to be a PIA. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Help ptp650 stuck at 5x5
Did you Disarm the Installation Agent? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/24/2014 02:54 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: I'm running out of daylight. Has anybody come across this before? Was modulating higher. I switched to 5.4 then 5.2 then back to 5.8 now it won't go above 5x5 on any channel size
Re: [AFMUG] Help ptp650 stuck at 5x5
I would call support at this point. +1-888-863-5250 Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/24/2014 03:36 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: yes I did the spectrum is shit, I knew this going into it I unlocket the full throughput eval now its going above 5 but by 5x5 I mean 5.00 x 5.00 with 2:1 1:1 1:2, on every channel, on every channel size not 4.96 x 5.01 flat out 5.00 x 5.00 I have never seen a ptp stay at a single number like that While we were peaking it out it was running up where it was expected aggregate around 19 or something this didnt start until I switched bands I went to 5.4 it was where it was expected for a 10.3 mile link I went to 5.2 when I went here I switched to the biggest channel, thats when it started 5.00 x 5.00 Switched back to 5.8 had to move the transmit power back to 27 from -4 5.00 x 5.00, no matter the channel size Im guessing this is a bug, what im wondering is if it corrupted the generic lite key or something like that when its in the trial it ignores the key anybody know what happens if theres no good key? On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Did you Disarm the Installation Agent? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 On 10/24/2014 02:54 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: I'm running out of daylight. Has anybody come across this before? Was modulating higher. I switched to 5.4 then 5.2 then back to 5.8 now it won't go above 5x5 on any channel size -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] 13.2(Build 35) Open Beta
Wouldn't it be nice if... When the stable version comes out, CNUT could identify that build 35 was a final build and change the APs and SMs to show that its running on stable software without having to update the entire network again. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/24/2014 04:48 PM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: If you aren't seeing it on build 34, you are unlikely to need the fix, but you are still at risk. The customer who was seeing it readily would see it mostly occur during the CNUT upgrade phase when using AP as the file server. Once the upgrade was done, the event log recovery message very rarely showed up. If you can, I would go to build 35 just because that is what would become the release build if we are able to proceed next week. Thanks, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 6:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 13.2(Build 35) Open Beta Changes in this build include an updated fix for the remaining 13.2 release blocker. As I discussed with many of you at Wispapalooza, that issue was related to the “Ethernet Tx Ring stall” message that may show up in the event log, where very rarely, the recovery didn’t recover. Because that non-recovery condition led to an AP that had to be remotely rebooted, we Should we update all all our build 34 to 35 to avoid this or is it unlikely to happen if build 34 is running fine? Just updated to 34. were unable to release. Over the past couple of weeks we have been able to get this reproduced at will internally and verify a fix that took care of the problem. This build has been running a customer site for a couple of days that saw the issue readily on previous loads, and the issue has not been seen. This build also contains a fix for the SM’s color code rescan timer display (which is new to 13.2) and an update to help with some registration issues. This is a release candidate build and we are hoping to have the release available next week. Please load it and send feedback if you can.
[AFMUG] MTU on PTP650?
Does anyone know where in the documentation it shows the MTU of the PTP650?
Re: [AFMUG] MTU on PTP650?
I finally found it. Page 165 of the manual: Max Ethernet frame size 9600 bytes Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/21/2014 11:26 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: Does anyone know where in the documentation it shows the MTU of the PTP650?
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium, improve PMP450 frame size?
I am still on 12.1.x. I looked through the user guide and specs and couldn't find where it stated it was increased. I plan to go to 13.2 as soon as its stable. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/21/2014 12:45 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: What version are you on? It's over 1700 bytes now. 13.1.3 has been pretty stable. I've had a couple sectors on 13.2 beta for weeks now and it has been amazing, can't wait for official. On 10/21/2014 2:22 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: Cambium, Any chance you are working to improve the max frame size on the PMP450 to be more than 1522 bytes? I would really like to see at least 1598 to support full QinQ VPLS configurations.
Re: [AFMUG] does SM ext gain setting matter in 5.7 GHz?
We tested it on 450 and saw no significant difference setting the gain. However as a good practice all techs are required to set the value during an install, in case we ever switch to a 5.4 frequency while dealing with interference. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/19/2014 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: At the AP it matters because of regulatory limits on EIRP. In DFS frequencies it matters for the DFS algorithm. But if you forget to set the external gain on a 5.7 GHz SM when you add an external antenna or reflector dish, does it matter? Is there something in the performance that is affected?
Re: [AFMUG] PTP-820S
I really like the looks of the products too. I hope they post spec sheets soon. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/13/2014 10:25 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: I like the specs. What's the waveguide interface, Remec? But what about pricing? 820G is also interesting. Is the all-indoor version really all indoor with the radio built into the IDU? Isn't that what the 810i is/was?
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to bachaul 1gig fiber 1 mile?
Do you have the radios something like 20ft of vertical separation to make this work? if they are too close together wouldn't the tx interfere with the rx of the link next to it shooting the same direction? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/13/2014 11:58 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: That's incorrect. You have link 1 on one set of freqs, then on link 2 you swap the TX/RX freqs. We have a site with 5 AF24s on it currently. No problems. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/13/2014 05:49 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: No you can't, in 750Mbps mode an af24 link takes all available 24 GHz bandwidth in both polarities. Will not work in parallel ptp between the same two sites. Will work if one af24 is aimed off-azimuth at least 10 degrees at another third site. On Oct 13, 2014 4:48 PM, Jerry Richardson via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: 1 Gig both ways? You **could** theoretically use two AF24’s and a Mikrotik router to bond the connections. This would give them 1.0Gbps with redundancy. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 3:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cheapest way to bachaul 1gig fiber 1 mile? What is the cheapest method of backhauling a 1gig fiber about 1 mile? I'm assuming you can't reliably bond or aggregate airfiber 24's can you? TJ
Re: [AFMUG] BBDGE Grounding Question
We use the shielded EZ-RF45 ends with this cable all the time. You don't fold the copper back. Instead you treat it more like putting an end on a heliax cable. Leave a bit of the inner jacket sticking out and only expose enough of the copper to go into the shielded end and get crimped down. We also qualify all ends with a fluke tester. All of our infrastructure sites for the past couple of years have been built this way. This cable is actually very easy to work with once you get the hang of it. When I get back from wispapalooza I will do a little video showing how I make the ends. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/11/2014 01:22 PM, Tyler Treat via Af wrote: For all you guys that rock BBDGE at tower sites - Are you using shielded ends - Does the copper cladding fit up into the connector? Care to attach a picture of what you consider a proper connection?? The only time I've messed with this cable, it was a huge PITA to get the copper cladding up into the shielded connector. Not sure if that was even the proper method.? Do you also bond the shield to ground the same way you would LMR cable with the ground kit? Similar to this: https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=445755WT.mc_id=google_basesp=true Thanks Tyler
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to bachaul 1gig fiber 1 mile?
Siklu 80ghz will do 1gig at a mile. Very cost effective product. I recently installed a pair for our county. The interface is in java and therefore a bit nit picky on browser. But its a good product from my experience. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/13/2014 03:59 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote: What is the cheapest method of backhauling a 1gig fiber about 1 mile? I'm assuming you can't reliably bond or aggregate airfiber 24's can you? TJ
Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads
I have lots of PTP600 and PTP650 links up. I always use LMR400 or for long leads LMR600 Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/09/2014 11:55 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: I hate lmr400 which is what we have always used. Is N-N LMR 195 lead sufficient, or what flexible leads are folks using for antenna connections -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] ePMP on 2.2, run remote spectrum, can't get back in...
Cambium, I am trying to run spectrum on an ePMP AP remotely. I changed the unit to Spectrum Analyzer and lost access. However I can ping the unit from the router on 169.254.1.1. So I got out another radio and set it up in the office and the same thing happened. It is accessible on 169.254.1.1 and 192.168.0.3, but not that IP it originally was configured with. The one on the tower is over an hour drive away. How do I get it back on it original IP so I can run spectrum remotely?
Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz Survey - Request for Info
FHSS in 900 is the product that I want/need. Something to work alongside SmartMeters. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/06/2014 12:54 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: FHSS is capable of high speeds. WaveSpans dual 5GHz system used FHSS Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Survey doneI'm going to address a question you didn't ask in the survey: There are two things I hate about 900mhz: First is the lower capacity, and a lot of the survey questions were pertinent to that. The second is there is a ton of interference and that makes it unreliable. I think it would be nice if a product could deliver higher capacity in 900mhz, but I also think it would be nice if we could get some rock solid IP connectivity without line of sight, even if it was at a low speed. I won't presume to tell Cambium how to do that, but maybe your next product could have an option for very small channels, or FHSS, or maybe tx and rx on different channels so I can avoid listening on a noisy channel at the tower but still transmit on it. I'd love to have more options in the toolbox to make a NLOS link keep on chugging along for telemetry, or remote desktop, or a single camera, or whatever. As some of you may already be aware, we are conducting some inquiries surrounding the 900 MHz band in order to properly address concerns in using this band, and help provide us the information needed to develop the product that you need to deliver service to your customers. The survey is just over 20 questions, and is located here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/XNS38W6 Please help us help you! Any information we gather will help us to make sure we’re developing the right product for your needs, and this info will not be used for any commercial or solicitation purposes. It’s optional to fill in the contact info at the end, but I encourage you to do so, in case further exploration of a few of the responses could help even more. The survey will stay open for about 2 weeks, so try to get to it soon. Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing the survey. Thanks, *Matt Mangriotis* Senior Product Manager* Cambium Networks** *3800 Golf Road, Suite 360 Rolling Meadows, IL 60008 www.cambiumnetworks.com http://www.cambiumnetworks.com* **O: *847-439-6379 tel:847-439-6379 *M: *630-308-9394 tel:630-308-9394* E: *m...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:m...@cambiumnetworks.com CN_logo_horizontal_blueIcon_blackName
[AFMUG] Packetflux Sync Injector and Cambium PTP-Sync?
Does anyone (Forrest) know if a Sync Injector can feed a sync pulse to a PTP-Sync device for synchronizing PTP650s?
Re: [AFMUG] Where is CNUT on the Cambium Website?
I couldn't find CNUT easily. A google search turns up: http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/management-tools/cnut Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/06/2014 01:57 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: Did I miss a Memo that CNS is replacing CNUT, or is there a special place you have to go to get it? Under Downloads I have access to the .pkg3 files for all the platforms, but I can't find anywhere to actually download CNUT. Am I missing it, or is it gone? All I see is the CNS Server. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Where is CNUT on the Cambium Website?
Most web sites leverage google to index and provide search for their site. You can do google searches like site:cambiumnetworks.com cnut where it only looks at cambiumnetworks.com. I use this all the time for finding stuff on thepiratebay. It's much more reliable than their own search. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/06/2014 02:05 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: oh that's awesome, And we're trusting them to route packets around for us? On 10/6/2014 4:00 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: I couldn't find CNUT easily. A google search turns up: http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/management-tools/cnut Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/06/2014 01:57 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: Did I miss a Memo that CNS is replacing CNUT, or is there a special place you have to go to get it? Under Downloads I have access to the .pkg3 files for all the platforms, but I can't find anywhere to actually download CNUT. Am I missing it, or is it gone? All I see is the CNS Server. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Where is CNUT on the Cambium Website?
In hindsight, I probably shouldn't admit to that... Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/06/2014 03:29 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: LOL :) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/06/2014 01:11 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: Most web sites leverage google to index and provide search for their site. You can do google searches like site:cambiumnetworks.com cnut where it only looks at cambiumnetworks.com. I use this all the time for finding stuff on thepiratebay. It's much more reliable than their own search. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/06/2014 02:05 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: oh that's awesome,� And we're trusting them to route packets around for us? On 10/6/2014 4:00 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: I couldn't find CNUT easily. A google search turns up: http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/management-tools/cnut Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/06/2014 01:57 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: Did I miss a Memo that CNS is replacing CNUT, or is there a special place you have to go to get it? Under Downloads I have access to the .pkg3 files for all the platforms, but I can't find anywhere to actually download CNUT. Am I missing it, or is it gone?� All I see is the CNS Server. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Cacti templates for PTP650?
Thanks Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/30/2014 11:05 AM, Eric Muehleisen via Af wrote: I took a PTP500 and changed it slightly. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1578608/Public/cacti_host_template_cambium_ptp_650_bh.xml On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Once again, I am on a quest for a Cacti template. This time for the PTP650. Any one constructed one? I'll wait a couple of days, then probably construct one of my own. Tnx. -- bp
[AFMUG] Cacti Template for ePMP?
Has anyone made and willing to share a cacti template for ePMP?
Re: [AFMUG] BTEST server in the Internet ?
Both are results from RB1100AHx2 routers in our network directly behind the Cisco. You can traceroute the IPs to see what path you take to get there. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/01/2014 11:35 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: Also, if anybody can hit me with a btest on 208.99.240.158 I'm curious what you can get on it. Does anybody have a btest server on gigE with upload capacity to spare? I wanted to test download on a new gigE link. I got 350meg on Sterling's. Thanks Sterling. I have an open one at 50.114.231.72 I think it’s good for at least 300-400Mbps. I’ve seen it go as high as 1.2Gbps. So it just depends what your router/carrier is to us at that IP. *From:* af@afmug.com [mailto:af@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:28 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BTEST server in the Internet ? How much speed are you looking for? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Image removed by sender. https://www.facebook.com/ICSILImage removed by sender. https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbImage removed by sender. https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionsImage removed by sender. https://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:21:36 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] BTEST server in the Internet ? Anyone have a TIK with the Bandwidth Server enabled we can test to ? We just need a more reliable test (Mikrotik) vs. using speedtest.net and the like Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe clamps and tower mount suppliers
Wireless Beehive Tower Mounts will fit 90% of your needs. Most major WISP suppliers carry them. http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?CID=3 Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/29/2014 10:31 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: Hey guys, We are looking for a reasonably priced source for pipe to pipe clamps and other hardware to attach our mounts to towers and railings on grain legs, etc. We are looking to strengthen our future tower builds and move up from our more amateur way of attaching pipes to our tower structures. What suppliers do you recommend for mounting gear and what kind of standoffs are you using the most for different types of mounting surfaces (tower leg, railings on grain legs, etc.)? Do you find any local suppliers have them to save on shipping costs and if so, what kind of suppliers should we be looking for? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com http://www.mnwifi.com/ 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] Fall colors
I am having serious tower envy right now. Your coverage potential is astounding! Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/29/2014 12:20 PM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote: i thought y'all might enjoy some pics from one of our towers.
Re: [AFMUG] Props to powercode
Don't you mean phablet? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/26/2014 04:34 PM, timothy steele via Af wrote: 6plus not a phone that's a tablet — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: the old version looks great on an iphone 6+ Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sep 25, 2014, at 5:09 PM, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The new version have a smart phone friendly web site or app for installer schedules? — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: You change your meds or something Steve? First the props to the PTP650, now this. Makes me think that someone has you tied up in a closet or something, and is posting in your place bp On 9/25/2014 10:44 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: I never have much good to say about anything, but this is a credit where credit is due thing. They have done alot of work on this new version they have out. We are in the process of demoing it and just did a live import of data from our old version The features in this are slick, the interface doesnt look like something from 1982 anymore It seems responsive and intuitive The big thing today was the 477 export. I personally did not want to have to learn any of the back end stuff on prepping the 477 to file for something that doesnt benefit us and is only done twice a year. I allocated until the filing deadline all my time to focusing on actually reading the FCC crap, collecting the data, formatting it, etc. Powercode just released their functional tool, so i set aside two of those days to get a build live and import our data, I had a couple issues, but it was mainly my dumb ass causing them. Got the live data running, ran the tool and uploaded our stuff. The whole process took around ten minutes, and I still dont even know or care exactly what the FCC is getting, all I know is its done, assuming its correct, and I didnt have to stab anybody. If you are looking for a platform that does your goodness for you (this issue comes up about once a month) Powercode has become a top notch product. Managing your guys time is one of the features just implemented, it needs a little fine tuning, but you can have utter morons handling your scheduling and the system makes sure things dont get too out of hand handling your business with helpdesk ticketing just became a real option with this build too, centralized, tied to your actual customers... nice The billing features have been good for a long time, not alot of changes to that, but for the most part there didnt need to be. Monitoring your network has gotten great, trend base probing and alerting. This does alot of what a fully functional stand alone NMS does. And they added a cloud for the userbase to share probes, no more asking guys how to do this and thet, then getting a vague answer you have to figure out how to implement - genius Buy powercode today while supplies last!! This message brought to you by adderal and vicodin -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Installer attire
Provide company logo sweatshirts and jackets? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/25/2014 08:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
[AFMUG] Cambium Force100 Assembly Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qCE44yo_PQ Took him 13 minutes to put it together. Yes, there was a bit of time for commentary, but not of unboxing. Lets see a video of someone from cambium start with a boxed up unit and and assembly this outside in freezing rain. 1. It shouldn't take more than a few minutes to assemble anything by installers. 2. There should be no parts than can't be worked with while wearing waterproof gloves. 3. All nuts should be accessible with a socket. If a deep socket is required, like for a U-Bolt, then there should be plenty of room to get the socket on and off said nut. 4. All parts should be keyed in a manner to prevent them being installed sideways or upside down. 5. There should be nothing that cannot get wet. If things like N-connectors can get wet, they should come with rubber caps to prevent that until the unit is assembled and an umbrella/cover can be used to prevent rain/snow from getting on the connectors. 6. Many other smaller issues with this Maybe someone else can add what they see.
Re: [AFMUG] routing to/from 169.254.0.0
+1 Oh yeah. Thanks for the reminder Paul. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/23/2014 09:39 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: You guys are making this hard I think Hang a 168.254.x.x IP on the Tik interface. Telnet from the Tik to the Canopy radio Change its IP through telnet ip -1 123.123.123.50 (or whatever) Change its netmask through telnet netmask -1 255.255.255.0 (or whatever) Change its gateway through telnet netgateway 123.123.123.1 (or whatever) reboot through telnet reset Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:58 AM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] routing to/from 169.254.0.0 Is there a way to route to/from a Cambium radio that is on the default IP (169.254.1.1) through a Mikrotik? I think the issue is that the default configuration does not have a gateway. So it doesn't know the way back. I put the interface on the MT on 169.254.1.3/16, but don't get replies unless I go directly from the MT. -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities
tongue in cheek Like that customer who's Internet went down last week and they figured it would just automagically come up again without calling in? /tongue in cheek Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/23/2014 07:44 AM, Andreas Wiatowski via Af wrote: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities I do too...I was just hoping it would automagically go away ;. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski Director / CEO /Silo Wireless Inc. /p: 519 449-5656 / 1-866-727-4138 x600 _http://silowireless.com/_ _http://twitter.com/#!/silowireless http://twitter.com/#%21/silowireless_ _http://www.facebook.com/silowireless_ /This email and any files transmitted with it are CONFIDENTIAL and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. / *From: *AFMUG LIST af@afmug.com *Reply-To: *AFMUG LIST af@afmug.com *Date: *Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:25:09 + *To: *AFMUG LIST af@afmug.com *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities Is it just me, or do you all see your replies twice? When I post, I see my post, then I see it come through again via AF On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: All integrated SMs, all with KP Reflectors. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Glen Waldrop via Af af@afmug.com wrote: A B hooked to the same polarity on each client? - Original Message - *From:* Kade Sullivan via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:10 AM *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities So I have our second 450 3.65 AP up, and every single AP at this site is showing a ~10dbi gap between the 2 polarities on the Uplink side of things (from the SM's perspective). The strangest part is that the 10db gap seems to go back and forth between the A side being the stronger signal and the B side. It seems random, and I have included a shot of each of the link status pages on this AP. All these SMs are in the same general geographic area, within 10 degrees of each in relation to the AP. You can see the top SM here actually has the A side with a better signal, while the other 4 show a B side with the higher signal. What in the crap is going on here. Do we have a bad antenna on the AP? I can't seem to make any sense of this at all. All these SMs have the same KP reflector, and they have all been visited twice to ensure they are peaked. I'm at a loss here. Help me AFMUG!
Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day
In thunderbird I don't get threads anymore either. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/22/2014 12:49 PM, David via Af wrote: Why dont the replies to the original thread stay in a thread :( On 09/22/2014 02:08 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an ethernet-over-powerlines adapter, do you get infinite energy?
Re: [AFMUG] TVWS Alive or Dead? Was: Re: Dear Cambium
I don't know how much you know about LTE vs WiMAX, but as a fixed operator there aren't many advantages to LTE. The biggest LTE advantage is 20mhz channels, which are unlikely in TVWS. You do get a bit of reduced latency (30ms), but by sacrificing link stability features. Also LTE adds a LOT of backend systems that are not needed for WiMAX. I personally would rather have TVWS in WiMAX over LTE for now. I see TVWS as a residential only service for those customers who have no other option. We have 900 Canopy FSK deployed on a 100ft tower here: 39.172642 -120.832321. Back when our noise floor was -90ish (6 years ago) we successfully installed 3 customers in the attached polygon. The three that were installed were all tree installs at least 120ft up, the rest didn't even connect. We have over 100 service requests we have mapped and attempted installs on at least half. We are hoping a few TVWS APs will let us provide service to those people. Once we try it, we will know for sure. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/20/2014 08:04 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: Ah, that sucks, I was thinking it was LTE-based. On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Jon Langeler via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Wimax. 60ms ish. Not great but not bad... Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Sep 20, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: Any idea what the latency is on these? On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: Base Station is approx $6200. One Base Station can be more than one AP (see attached) Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/20/2014 06:13 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: AP cost ? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TVWS Alive or Dead? Was: Re: Dear Cambium I think its 350 each + Antenna. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/20/2014 05:23 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: What is the CPE cost on the Runcom gear? On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: You don't need WiMAX/LTE voodoo for TVWS. Sure there are some advantages but there are also disadvantages. What you do need is a tight enough spectral mask and the TX power. Runcom already had a WiMAX product that operated from 700mhz to 5ghz built on an SDR designed to use 5mhz or 6mhz channels and supported channel bonding. They were able to modify their existing product to work within TVWS frequencies. Using 5mhz channels (or 10mhz for channel bonding) they were able to meet the spectral mask requirements for TVWS. Their product already had a call home feature for a central management system. I wouldn't be surprised if they leveraged most of that design to work with the database. They didn't have to bring an entirely new product to market. One of the other major consideration is TX power. Fixed stations can transmit 30dbm and have a 6db antenna (36db EIRP). There isn't a lot of antenna gain available without getting very large. So radios need to have very high TX power built in. If Cambium were to build a 450 product they would need to reevaluate their stance on TX power. I would want to see a radio with at least 28db of TX power available. 900mhz, even in clean spectrum, still doesn't provide the coverage a lot of this county needs to reach the rural areas. TVWS can go as low as 470mhz. Even the upper channels around 600mhz have significantly more foliage penetration than that of 900mhz. I would like to see a DSSS product whereby an AP
Re: [AFMUG] Exalt?
Tried calling and leaving messages. No response. Emailed multiple contacts. No response. They have been repairing a radio for 2 months. Supposed to have taken less than 30 days to turn it around. We are expanding and need that link back operational. The backup is not fast enough for the demand now that school is back. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/19/2014 04:47 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: Just call them Jaime Solorza On Sep 19, 2014 3:16 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Not sure there is validity to this claim. References please? Pics of the for sale sign on the offices? :) Maybe a press release? Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/19/2014 01:10 PM, Bob Hrbek (Loganet) via Af wrote: Holy crap, I nearly bought a link last month� On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Josh Baird via Afaf@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So were they just dumping inventory with the recent G2 promotions? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Jose Burgos via Afaf@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Yes, I heard that they closed their doors two (2) days ago. Sent from Jose's iPhone - Pinnacle Wireless On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Matt Jenkins via Afaf@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I heard a rumor that Exalt went out of business. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
What is a Comopact device? For more information about SG Compact and Spectrum Comopact devices, please visit SAF booth #4058 at the CTIA show in Las Vegas during September 9-11, or contact your local SAF sales manager! Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/18/2014 07:49 AM, Daniel White via Af wrote: Just found out PDF's are allowed now. Now see the attachment. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? attachment? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: SAF announced two products at CTIA. Please see the attachment. Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? Does anyone know what new product announcements were made? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
Re: [AFMUG] PTP650
I know its probably not feasible, but I would really like them to support 45mhz Tx and 10mhz Rx channel sizes as well. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/18/2014 02:43 PM, Roland Houin via Af wrote: yes. roland Can the PTP650 do split TX and RX freqs? (example:Tx on 5740, RX on 5800)
Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Also here are the headers from thunderbird. The senders email address is not in there anywhere, let alone in the from or sender field. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/17/2014 09:57 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: This is how Thunderbird shows the emails. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/17/2014 05:33 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Thanks for the input. The dust has not settled on it yet and we fully expected to deal with some of this when it went live :) There is a lot of thoughts, technical discussion, etc. that I could spent a lot of time on, but I want to be clear that we would rather focus time (at the moment anyways) looking at the different options on improving it. Since we have had to my mail server is having trouble with your mail server general connection issues, its not a huge deal for us to look at continued options. Steady plodding (as the bible says), which in the tech business translates to persistence and patience (not necessarily in that order) :) Paul From - Wed Sep 17 10:03:35 2014 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: 014884919048-67c3b4a8-273e-46b2-b6e3-bcaa41b4817c-000...@amazonses.com Received: from a9-91.smtp-out.amazonses.com ([54.240.9.91]) by mx.perfora.net (mxeueus001) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0Le3je-1Y6avr1GQu-00ptrk for m...@smarterbroadband.net; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 19:03:27 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=224i4yxa5dv7c2xz3womw6peuasteono; d=amazonses.com; t=1410973405; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:To:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Sender:Feedback-ID; bh=mVbnmAd7G66UMnbvO3Ml4lmf9n26HBYSuZfjRiG/7T4=; b=QeH34GNJEwHswJvZi3phUX6igOMf8UiDH6wfqAOSlr65KFQWXAZyzTO4ExN+6BWf Ra7PA7ZHKs8ZvN2GF3bfq0bi894SjPn8cxCGH2zWwHq2oURNDgrBPEeMKFmkI4f46EK yKthhjvgIO1Vzg28bW5fNH1SnIcdUcRNCo9kLcDg= X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=EcxGQZWC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=rcbtdQGuPFtN9R+ZKREELQ==:117 a=jmxVE3rWo+o6kYeGwW9Uqw==:17 a=pq4jwCgg:8 a=OF-CdTOG:8 a=97QQx2eq6K0A:10 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=KwhCqyGwUzIA:10 a=fWyK7gR5GDkA:10 a=w33smXeKSvsA:10 a=_j2FLZox:8 a=EdW7D8OI:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=1sjWJj6N:8 a=8DQ8phkEzFfCF_h-F7kA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=khpdD0X9LoYA:10 a=6E-hi-gu8FYA:10 a=54lB3uqfNtUA:10 a=B8ibFTVm:8 a=OpEl6HMqjR55yEVsew8A:9 a=vtHtJ2j4GRpr-AlS:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=svvutLH48tAA:10 a=gvp9h1jznREzaC2cSCgA:9 a=J_IH2hTnDEqlf0cp:18 a=HXjIzolwW10A:10 Message-ID: 014884919048-67c3b4a8-273e-46b2-b6e3-bcaa41b4817c-000...@email.amazonses.com Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:03:25 + Organization: Skyline Broadband Service User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: af@afmug.com References: 5419ad78.4080...@sbbinc.net 0148848c5017-5c3fc4bf-66db-4708-9caf-d5a10f0bc174-000...@email.amazonses.com In-Reply-To: 0148848c5017-5c3fc4bf-66db-4708-9caf-d5a10f0bc174-000...@email.amazonses.com X-EN-UserInfo: dfa453bac296f6f3b4736d4866fea1e9:931c98230c6409dcc37fa7e93b490c27 X-EN-AuthUser: part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com X-EN-OrigIP: 199.73.114.66 X-EN-OrigHost: mail.csi-sbs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments X-BeenThere: af@afmug.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Animal Farm af.afmug.com List-Unsubscribe: http://afmug.com/mailman/options/af, mailto:af-requ...@afmug.com?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://afmug.com/pipermail/af/ List-Post: mailto:af@afmug.com List-Help: mailto:af-requ...@afmug.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af, mailto:af-requ...@afmug.com?subject=subscribe From: Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com Errors-To: af-boun...@afmug.com Sender: Af af-boun...@afmug.com X-SES-Outgoing: 2014.09.17-54.240.9.91 Feedback-ID: us-east-1.YWYtYm91bmNlc0BhZm11Zy5jb20=:AmazonSES Envelope-To: m...@smarterbroadband.net X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:6TDiwdV3nQg=:61fiL6E2JJitbRKorpqfr0wdvj q4iPYNRo2oh3+h1/Nbfy0wrS7HMuiCboeTQaZpU7mYbYvY5JGmaciUOL8sceuxJ1BMOmHx2WI rbEMqsO++kNivlD69d/YmN1LVod9wdibe5hrodYieuKtg5qt84TpR7Q3JRExcPFuZTFMvcxOD WOoLN3Yysl8aZYL5YquepYmalwBUAGYsJ+yTZgGu2mbXFcLJdiM8CtTg4Q8Bk08j/6dyad+Pa cgCfwBY6+ycV7KTkmuTgdP5+KuMm6B59UCpV+01ohM4gDbzqPdSwIDjEPqqnFQiYJ0/m8ilTJ 9vu/k8gCSxz7FSSGM2Xs2zjOU7aYjt8hqswGInuwGE+/Q+YSRLjwlIjMCY5h0/zg+sCaSNRsq IpjrKPr+MbZ3fFWu5Xj7fHQ2Q
