[AFMUG] Recent licensed link pricing?

[Peter Kranz]

Anyone priced out 18Ghz capable hardware recently? Need to do a new 3 link
build, thinking of using Dragonwave-X Harmony Enhanced MC radios.
http://www.dragonwavex.com/products/packet-microwave/harmony-enhancedmc

 

Curious if any new players in the market are more cost effective than
Dragonwave for a dual-carrier, all outdoor, 2x80Mhz 4096QAM capable radio.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

[AFMUG] surplus NB5-22's

[Peter Kranz]

I have tons of world NB5-22's left over from an old project (150+), is
anyone on here still deploying these and want them?

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] CPE with prism ac gear

[Peter Kranz]

Isn't the focus point for the PBE-G2 radio setup for a -400 dish? I think the 
-500 and -620 radios have a focus point further out..

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Koep
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com; Sam Lambie <samtaos...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE with prism ac gear

Powerbeam Gen2 radio in an old Powerbeam 500 dish or 620 dish


On 12/2/2017 4:22 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> What are you guys using for cpes up to 5 miles on a 120 sector?

Re: [AFMUG] LifePo4 Batts

[Peter Kranz]

I'm using them now, they are approaching the cost of lead acid, but with
higher storage density, and more cycles until failure. 

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] LifePo4 Batts

 

Anyone using them? 


 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Narrowest, most powerful 5 Ghz sector available

[Peter Kranz]

Ubnt has a 30H*8V with 22 dBi gain.

AP-5AC-90-HD

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Narrowest, most powerful 5 Ghz sector available

 

We have to replace a sector with a sector (tower lease thing), and I don't
really care about the beamwidth.  The narrower, the more dB, the better.

 

Any suggestions?5 Ghz

 

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800  

pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> 

www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com> 

www.floridabroadband.com <http://www.floridabroadband.com> 

 

 

[AFMUG] Unresponsive PMP450 AP

[Peter Kranz]

I have a PMP450 AP that seems 'deadish'.. any thoughts?

 

I cannot ping it, telnet into it, HTTP into it

But the yellow traffic indicator light on the unit blinks

It sends out a LLDP_Multicast message every 60 seconds or so with the name
on the unit on it

I've tried the default cable and power cycle procedures

 



 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] GTT as a Tier 1 provider - feedback?

[Peter Kranz]

I use GTT and Cogent for our main provider mix, and I find our load splits 
pretty well between them without much BGP foo. They have been reliable overall 
and I have no complaints. They are also willing to compete on price to match 
most other options.

 

-Peter

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] GTT as a Tier 1 provider - feedback?

 

Looking at bandwidth options in Miami.  

 

Investigating GTT today.  Anybody, besides Faisal , have any feedback on them ?

(Faisal speaks highly of them)

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800  

pa...@pdmnet.net  

www.pdmnet.com  

www.floridabroadband.com  

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Wholesale sip provider

[Peter Kranz]

Flowroute +1

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wholesale sip provider

 

I am enjoying Voip Innovations. 

Flowroute has been pretty good as well.

 

Jim

 

 

 

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone

 

 

 Original message 

From: Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com
<mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com> > 

Date: 4/1/17 1:43 PM (GMT-06:00) 

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: [AFMUG] Wholesale sip provider 

 

Who are you using and why?  Who to stay away from?

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

[Peter Kranz]

It's true, and it is the core business case of many other social network
companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How do they choose not
to use the only ISP in their market?

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

 

I heard a comment today that I had not thought about.  Apparently Google has
been selling this data for years. The ISPs wanted to have the same rights.
Of course, prohibiting Google from selling this information never crossed
their minds.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

 

While the FCC's proposed "Protecting the Privacy of Customers of Broadband
and Other Telecommunication Services" rule might not have been perfect, and
potentially difficult to implement for small ISPs and WISPS, I think the
basic concept was sound. I created a simple non-legally binding pledge that
small ISPs and WISPS can sign up that I feel will demonstrate one of the
clear differentiators between us and larger ISPs who seek to commodify every
aspect of their customer's usage.

 

Check it out at http://privacypledge.us/ 

 

I'm open to comments or revisions, as my goal is not to own this, but to try
to get some visibility for our industry and its unique respect for the end
user.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

[AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

[Peter Kranz]

While the FCC's proposed "Protecting the Privacy of Customers of Broadband
and Other Telecommunication Services" rule might not have been perfect, and
potentially difficult to implement for small ISPs and WISPS, I think the
basic concept was sound. I created a simple non-legally binding pledge that
small ISPs and WISPS can sign up that I feel will demonstrate one of the
clear differentiators between us and larger ISPs who seek to commodify every
aspect of their customer's usage.

 

Check it out at http://privacypledge.us/ 

 

I'm open to comments or revisions, as my goal is not to own this, but to try
to get some visibility for our industry and its unique respect for the end
user.

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu multipoint solutions

[Peter Kranz]

Pricing on the PMP product from Siklu starts at around $800 per subscriber
unit and $2000 per base unit, but they do require license keys for full
performance.

Base sector provides a 90Hx20V degree coverage pattern

Overall sector performance between 500 Mbps and 1.8Gbps depending on license
keys

Link ranges up to around 375 meters

Each base unit can support up to 3?(I think) Subscribers 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 6:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu multipoint solutions

 

What is this stuff going to cost?  Obviously this is for micropops. Can I go
through 1 tree? Can i lay real fiber cheaper?

 

  _  

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of
Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> >
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:27:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu multipoint solutions 

 

The new term is HFW Hybrid Fiber Wireless  

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of
Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 3:27 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu multipoint solutions

 

So are all of us going to have to start calling wireless "fiber" now,
because that's what the big guys are doing?

 

Reminiscent of the Einstein quote, it's like a very long cat, but without
the cat.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu multipoint solutions

 

Aparrently some beta units to big guys like Google Fiberwave

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of
Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 12:14 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Siklu multipoint solutions

 

Heard they are shipping... True? 


 

Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968




 

Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti probe for Siklu?

[Peter Kranz]

I use the same template for both my 1200's and 2200's.. the MIB/Software is
the same.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti probe for Siklu?

 

Will do! 

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of
Steve Utick <sut...@gmail.com <mailto:sut...@gmail.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 11:08 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti probe for Siklu?

 

Please let me know if it works for the 2200, so I know for future reference.

 


 

Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

Thanks! Will try! 

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of
Steve Utick <sut...@gmail.com <mailto:sut...@gmail.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 5:30 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti probe for Siklu?

 

I don't have any 2200's to test on, but if they didn't change the OID's
between the 1200 and the 2200 then...  I've got a 1200 one on my site at:
http://www.north-hill.net/files/cacti-siklu.zip   Worth a shot to try at
least.

 


 

Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

 

 

Anyone has a Cacti probe for Siklu 2200 radios? 

 


 

Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



 

 

[AFMUG] PMP450 SMs

[Peter Kranz]

I have not bought PMP450 SMs in some time.. we had a stock of PMP450 SMs w/
RCL-2 dishes.. We estimated an overall system gain of 25 dbi. 

 

The PMP450d spec sheet indicates 25 dbi as well.

 

Has anyone compared the PMP450+RCL-2 with a PMP450d and can quickly comment
on gain differences.

 

Also am I correct in that PMP450d has a better processor than the original
PMP450 SMs?

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Traffic Shaping Appliance

[Peter Kranz]

If you are crafty you can always just use HTB, or the various HTB wrappers.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

[Peter Kranz]

>> We are using Meanwell TN3000, pure sine wave 3000W inverter charger. It has 
>> a solar plug too. Cost is 950$

Cheap, but lacking adequate SNMP monitoring, which is a must-have for us.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

[Peter Kranz]

This was my thinking as well.. With my AGM setups I’m not comfortable pushing 
beyond 60% DOD.. I’m also paying a lot for 10-year rated large Ah AGM batteries 
these days.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:33 PM
To: af <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

 

Figuring those prices, you're not going to end up too far off from the price of 
the Tesla for the same run time. Tripling the batteries will put you up to 
somewhere around $4500, for basically the same kWh, but if you factor in being 
able to 100% discharge the Tesla setup, you're going to need to add a bunch 
more battery.

I wonder how the life expectancy compares...

 

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

That's the same link I sent earlier, bro.

$3049 is list priceyou'll pay closer to $2500 - $2600.

 

On 10/31/2016 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

This looks like it:

http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-120-240vac.html

�

$3409/12000=28.4 cents per watt.� 

Not too bad considering there is a battery charger in there.

�

From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

�

http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-120-240vac.html

This has a street price of $2500.� The four SLA batteries were (I think) $160 
each.� The 3/0 battery cable was not free, but I don't remember what it 
cost.� This is only 4800 Wh, but it's trivial to add more/bigger 
batteries.� 

This doesn't have any built in network monitoring though.does the Powerwall?

�

 

On 10/31/2016 2:14 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:

The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now that it 
has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most of my sites 
for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of our standard AGM 
cells and inverter, I think this price is quite reasonable.

�

https://www.tesla.com/powerwall

�

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

�

 

 

 

[AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

[Peter Kranz]

The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now that
it has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most of my
sites for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of our
standard AGM cells and inverter, I think this price is quite reasonable.

 

https://www.tesla.com/powerwall

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Peter Kranz]

Like many of you I typically have sworn by the steel shank/steel toe work boots 
for tower work... But as of the last couple years I have really started to move 
toward the ultra-light approach. I find myself a lot less exhausted after a day 
on the work site when I’ve removed loads of weight from my feet.

 

These are currently my tower shoe of choice: 
https://www.scarpa.com/zen-pro-mid-gtx

 

They are scary light, but have enough support to not be an issue on ladders for 
me. If I need to sit around on a rung for extended periods I always have the 
integrated bosun chair on my harness to chill out on. I’ve used these for 
inclement weather backpacking and done 20 mile days in these things without 
discomfort or blisters.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

[Peter Kranz]

My experience is that with AC PRISM APs, the need for sync has been reduced, so 
I am happy they are working on backwards compatibility first. 

 

I’ve been able to pack more APs on my towers where I went all PRISM than I was 
able to with the previous generation.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

Re: [AFMUG] bridgewave eagle 80ghz

[Peter Kranz]

The Siklu EH-2500 is a 2Gbps product for a lower price point than the Eagle.. 
If you need 3 Gbps, I think the Eagle is the only option at this time..

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Gerlach
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 10:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] bridgewave eagle 80ghz

Who is using it? Is it a good product? something better on the market?

THX

Daniel

Re: [AFMUG] Linux traffic shaper with GUI?

[Peter Kranz]

PFSense solution doesn't really work well with lots of users on the same 
interface alas, too cumbersome.

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Linux traffic shaper with GUI?

Not linux based (BSD!), but I concur it is a good solution if that's your bag.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:11 PM, ccie4526 <ccie4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> PFsense does a pretty good job if you follow these directions:
> http://www.squidworks.net/2012/08/pfsense-2-0-limiting-users-upload-an
> d-download-speeds-by-limiting-bandwidth/
>
> I'm using it to limit public hotspot users up/down speeds per IP.
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Josh Luthman 
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Mikrotik.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone using a linux based traffic shaper to shaper customer 
>>> connections with a reasonably nice GUI? I was using WebHTB but I 
>>> cannot get it to work with the latest Ubunutu 16.04.01 release anymore..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Kranz
>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-
>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] Durham, NC provider?

[Peter Kranz]

Anyone service this address, contact me off-list

 

Winchester Place

4309 Emperor Blvd. Suite 100

Durham, NC 27703

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

[AFMUG] Linux traffic shaper with GUI?

[Peter Kranz]

Anyone using a linux based traffic shaper to shaper customer connections
with a reasonably nice GUI? I was using WebHTB but I cannot get it to work
with the latest Ubunutu 16.04.01 release anymore.. 

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone purchased an Eltek rectifier system recently?

[Peter Kranz]

I’d give ebay a scan, usually there are a few flatpack units there..

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Anyone purchased an Eltek rectifier system recently?

 

Looking for a ballpark price estimate off list on this:

http://www.eltek.com/detail_products.epl?id=1142848 
<http://www.eltek.com/detail_products.epl?id=1142848=24677=1>
 =24677=1

It has a distribution bus/fuse/breaker panel in the top 1U, the bottom 1U 
populated with 4 x 2000W rectifiers. 

Or something else equivalent that is 2U to max 3U in size, 8kW rated at 
230/240VAC input.

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

[Peter Kranz]

Cogent is great as long as you have another peer to balance out “issues”. They 
have a shitload of the internet as directly connected customers. 

 

-PK

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 6:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

 

Location does make a big difference. I would in no way use them for a single 
upstream. For one, Cogent doesn't have the entire IPv6 Internet. They are great 
in a mix, especially if you have a route management platform or take only 
customer routes.



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 




  _  

From: "Jason McKemie"  >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:52:04 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cogent

Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad, ugly? 
I assume the service location makes some difference as well.

 

-Jason

 

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

[Peter Kranz]

“Originally, the connector was designed to carry signals at frequencies up to 1 
GHz <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GHz>  in military applications, but today's 
common Type N easily handles frequencies up to 11 GHz. More recent precision 
enhancements to the design by Julius Botka at Hewlett Packard 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hewlett_Packard>  have pushed this to 18 GHz.”

 

http://inmet.apitech.com/inmet/micro-inmet-between-typen.cfm

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

 

Yeah, I think this is a case of somebody bowing their neck - a pissing contest 
between a boss and underlings at UBNT.  

 

From: Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:19 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

 

I have never in my life personally seen an N connector rated above 11 GHz. 
High-quality/expensive N connectors are used extensively in two way satellite - 
such as with 3.0 meter C-band Tx/Rx earth station dishes...  But you only use N 
for the 50 ohm coax cables from the modem (indoors) to the electronics which 
lives directly attached to the waveguide/feed on the dish (Rx LNB and Tx 
SSPA/BUC). 

The coax is used between 1.2 to 1.8 GHz to communicate with the Tx and Rx 
electronics on the dish. A satellite LNB on the Rx side is basically a 10:1 
ratio downconverter.

Like so: http://beta.satcomresources.com/sca/images/NORS3120N_detail-3.jpg

There's your single polarity waveguide interface on one side, N on the other. 

 

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

First of all, I have never seen an N connector rated above 11 GHz, and those 
are extra expensive.

If there is an 18 GHz version, it will be even more expensive.  

 

This will not be a cable you can make yourself in the field and it will be very 
sensitive to being fully seated so you will probably have to use a torque 
wrench to make it work at 18 GHz.  

 

Silly.  You can weatherproof an SMA just as easy as an N connector.  Good 
heatshrink can be found for both.  

Folks trying to use N connectors at 18 GHz are going to quickly get introduced 
to the world of return loss problems.  

 

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] Im Auftrag 
von Rob Genovesi
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2016 01:32
An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

 

>From Gary-UBNT:

"We are working on data sheets right now so hopefully you will get more 
questions answered shortly.  The reason for N connectors relates to demand for 
higher mechanical robustness and the ability for the connectors to be 
weather-proof as a stand alone connector (fully weatherproof gaskets and the 
ability to accept larger diameter jumpers readily).  The N connectors we use 
are rated to 18+ GHz."

An active thread on the UBNT forums right now, more available here: 
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/Some-AF11X-details/td-p/1512145

-Rob

 

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I'm looking at all the other AF-nnX radios from UBNT, and they all use SMA 
connectors. What reason would they have to use N instead of SMA? Seems the SMA 
connector would have fewer issues at 11 GHz. 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..

[Peter Kranz]

I’m feeling like the Ceragon IP20C is still the most highest performance radio 
out there..  alas missing 10G SFP+, so 2 port lag required.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 2:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..

 

Can this do FCC standard channel sizes in 18 GHz?  Reading the spec sheet it 
looks very nice, but ETSI channel sizes only, and one polarity in a 56 MHz wide 
channel at 4096QAM is nowhere near 1 Gbps.

In 2+0 yes, but then once you convert Euros to dollars and buy four radio heads 
the cost is approaching the cost of an existing high capacity 1 Gbps 18 GHz 
product like the Exalt ExtremeAir (dual polarity 18 GHz 80 MHz wide 256QAM 
radio).

4096QAM 

 

 

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Daniel Gerlach <danielgerl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:danielgerl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

we like the Intracom 4096 QAM for 5k€ with antennas...with right pdf


2016-06-28 22:18 GMT+02:00 Daniel Gerlach <danielgerl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:danielgerl...@gmail.com> >:
> we like the Intracom 4096 QAM for 5k€ with antennas.
>
> 2016-06-28 20:41 GMT+02:00 Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >:

>> Come on man, leak it!  You know you want to...
>>
>> From: Jaime Fink
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:36 PM
>> To: SmarterBroadband ; af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..
>>
>> Geez, we get beat up for pre-announcing, and then people want to know what
>> we’re building when we don’t!  ;)
>>
>> Safe to say with the strong interest and shipments of B11, it’s an area we
>> expect to expand to have more distance options beyond 11 GHz, but I can’t
>> really comment on which frequencies and timing at this point.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jaime Fink • Mimosa • CPO & Co-Founder
>>
>> On June 28, 2016 at 11:22:59 AM, SmarterBroadband
>> (li...@smarterbroadband.com <mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com> ) wrote:
>>
>> Any plans?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On 
>> Behalf Of Jaime Fink
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:00 AM
>> To: Peter Kranz; af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..
>>
>>
>>
>> Nope!
>>
>>
>>
>> Jaime Fink • Mimosa • CPO & Co-Founder
>>
>>
>>
>> On June 28, 2016 at 10:58:10 AM, Peter Kranz (pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
>> <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> ) wrote:
>>
>> Has Mimosa showed any pre-release systems in bands above 11Ghz?
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter Kranz
>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.UnwiredLtd.com> 
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>> Mobile: 510-207-
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On 
>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:56 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..
>>
>>
>>
>> I am very interested to hear if Mimosa will have 18 GHz soon.  I would
>> expect it from them.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Peter Kranz
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:46 AM
>>
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
>>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok follow up to my dragonwave question..
>>
>>
>>
>> Opinions on the best 18Ghz radio currently available on the market at this
>> time with actual product availability?
>>
>>
>>
>> Features of interest:
>>
>>
>>
>> Channel bonding
>>
>> 100 Mhz channels
>>
>> H/V mimo
>>
>> At least 1.25 Gbps uncompressed throughput
>>
>> Hitless modulation adaptation
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter Kranz
>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.UnwiredLtd.com> 
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>> Mobile: 510-207-
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 
>>
>>

 

Re: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..

[Peter Kranz]

Has Mimosa showed any pre-release systems in bands above 11Ghz?

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..

 

I am very interested to hear if Mimosa will have 18 GHz soon.  I would
expect it from them.  

 

From: Peter Kranz <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:46 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..

 

Ok follow up to my dragonwave question..

 

Opinions on the best 18Ghz radio currently available on the market at this
time with actual product availability?

 

Features of interest:

 

Channel bonding

100 Mhz channels

H/V mimo

At least 1.25 Gbps uncompressed throughput

Hitless modulation adaptation

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..

[Peter Kranz]

Yes.. it a 50Mhz+50Mhz.

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..

On 6/28/16 10:46, Peter Kranz wrote:
> 100 Mhz channels
>

In FCC land?

~Seth

[AFMUG] Best 18Ghz radio on the market..

[Peter Kranz]

Ok follow up to my dragonwave question..

 

Opinions on the best 18Ghz radio currently available on the market at this
time with actual product availability?

 

Features of interest:

 

Channel bonding

100 Mhz channels

H/V mimo

At least 1.25 Gbps uncompressed throughput

Hitless modulation adaptation

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

[AFMUG] Dragonwave 18Ghz mount compatibility?

[Peter Kranz]

What other vendors use the same mount as Dragonwave?

 



 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[Peter Kranz]

Illustrating the directional multi-spectrum technology?

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it?

 

I found Baicells new animated marketing logo

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEjHKpLe4Ax4v8VzO/giphy.gif

rt of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

[Peter Kranz]

But the gain is all wrong.. 14db.. suckage.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

Compare this to putting 8 PMP450 APs on one ETI antenna. The ETI antenna alone 
is $10K. The 8 APs are ~~ $2500 each. Total cost is ~~ $30K.

 

So this is like getting the ETI antenna for $7K, and the 8 APs are negative 
cost.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 6/22/2016 10:46 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

$7K

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

30 grand to light up one tower. *puke*

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

$6,995



-
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 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
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<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
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 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 





  _  


From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> >
To: "af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:35:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

I thought he said $6k

 

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

5x the throughput and only 3x the price though




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com 
<mailto:cr...@skywaveconnect.com> > wrote:

7K msrp….   Ouch, but dam that thing is sweet

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:33 AM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

Photos?

 

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists <mailto:jeffl...@att.net>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:24 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

No slip up.  That's correct

Jeff Broadwick 

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519   Office

574-220-7826   Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com <mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com> 


On Jun 22, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com 
<mailto:cr...@skywaveconnect.com> > wrote:

I don't know if he slipped up, but he said ships in September?  Really, they 
were saying 1st quarter next year a few months ago


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

On 6/22/16 08:21, Craig Schmaderer wrote:

Oh boy, it has a sfp�.

 



Are the SFP gods satisfied?

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

[Peter Kranz]

With the ETI beamformer antenna.. you get ~20db gain since you have the 
electrical capture of all the active antennas going on.. in theory creating a 
high gain very narrow spot beam of 15 degrees or so.. 14 implies something 
else.. 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

They beam-form the power coming in.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 6/22/2016 9:40 AM, Craig Schmaderer wrote:

Over poe though?  That’s pushing a lot of watts over it, I didn’t hear them say 
it had a separate power port?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

48v to 56 or 59v I believe

 

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com 
<mailto:cr...@skywaveconnect.com> > wrote:

Spec sheet says 70watts, how are we going to power this thing, they never said 
the power options did they?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Daniel White
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:37 AM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

Yes there is a GigE roadmap that includes 40MHz channels.  

 

Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> 

dwh...@converge-tech.com <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

Any plans to offer 40mhz channel on this thing for 800-1000mbps throughput?

 

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

That does a lot of nothing now.



-
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 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
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  _  


From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:21:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

Take whatever you like from here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9JfpcaZRA

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 6/22/2016 9:17 AM, Matt wrote:

There is a webinar going on now as we speak introducing the product.

Is there anywhere to download slides or video from the webinar?

 

 

 

 


 
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Virus-free.  
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link>
 www.avast.com 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

[Peter Kranz]

This gain seems low.. If its beamforming via all antennas at the same time, it 
should have higher gain with the combined antennas..

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

 



 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

I'm curious about the vertical beam width. Are there more than one vertical 
beams?

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 6/22/2016 8:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

That is a bit better.  

 

From: Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:45 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

There is one beam forming antenna with 90° coverage (3db roll-off). It can (and 
has been) used in a 120° sector with a 6db roll-off.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 6/22/2016 8:41 AM, Craig Schmaderer wrote:

90 degree, I think it is like 15dbi 7 beam form arrays

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

What kind of decent sector coverage do you get with it?

 

From: Craig Schmaderer <mailto:cr...@skywaveconnect.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:38 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

Well, it looks like I got to put my order in for 4 of them :), tower is 
waiting…..

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

oh... yeah, I guess I wasn't paying attention.

 

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

$6,995



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From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> >
To: "af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:35:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

I thought he said $6k

 

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

5x the throughput and only 3x the price though




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com 
<mailto:cr...@skywaveconnect.com> > wrote:

7K msrp….   Ouch, but dam that thing is sweet

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:33 AM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

Photos?

 

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists <mailto:jeffl...@att.net>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:24 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

 

No slip up.  That's correct

Jeff Broadwick 

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519   Office

574-220-7826   Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com <mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com> 


On Jun 22, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com 
<mailto:cr...@skywaveconnect.com> > wrote:

I don't know if he slipped up, but he said ships in September?  Really, they 
were saying 1st quarter next year a few months ago


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m

On 6/22/16 08:21, Craig Schmaderer wrote:

Oh boy, it has a sfp�.

 



Are the SFP gods satisfied?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone used the ETI antennas

[Peter Kranz]

Check the archives, I did an extensive write-up of my experiences with ETI.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Has anyone used the ETI antennas

 

If so, did you use Cambium radios or something else?  Just trying to get
some feedback for a project on if they are worth it.

 

Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO

4226 S. 37th Street . Phoenix . AZ 85040

602-426-0542

 <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> r...@triadwireless.net

 <http://www.triadwireless.net/> www.triadwireless.net

 

"In Baseball Heaven .. The balls in the batting cage pick themselves up."  -
Lessons from Baseball

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

[Peter Kranz]

112 Mhz.. your right.. gets you there..

 

Has anyone been able to swing this approach to deploy 112Mhz channels in the 
US..? Seems like you could use 4x30Mhz channels

 

From

FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS

COMMISSION

47 CFR Parts 1, 2, 74, 78, and 101

[WT Docket No. 04–143; FCC 06–141]

Rechannelization of the 17.7–19.7 GHz

Frequency Band for Fixed Microwave

Services

 

“C. Aggregation

11. We also proposed, in the NPRM, to permit applicants to request any amount 
of available spectrum based on their specific needs, on the condition that 
aggregated channels are contiguous channels, except for channels that are 
already licensed to someone else in the area, and are thus blocked. Comsearch 
asks us to clarify whether applicants also may skip any segments that would be 
affected by interference with other links. We conclude that allowing 
aggregation conditioned upon the proposed requirement that aggregated channels 
be contiguous is necessary to prevent licensees from spacing their channels in 
a manner that effectively could prevent others from using the remaining 
spectrum in the same area. We also, however, agree with Comsearch that where an 
applicant seeks to operate in a particular segment that is unavailable in the 
relevant area, whether due to co-channel licenses or adjacent channel 
interference as determined under our rules (including requirements to comply 
with any applicable agreements with Canada or Mexico in these bands), then it 
is appropriate to allow the applicant to skip that “blocked” segment of 
spectrum.

“

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 11:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

 

Well, what do they get at a 112 MHz channel instead of an 80 MHz channel? 
Europe has 112 MHz channels available now. Before, SIAE had some very good spec 
sheets, so ask for them.

I also think they can do 4096QAM? 4096 QAM and 112 MHz channels might get you 
there.



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From: "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 12:47:09 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

Has anyone worked with the SIAE AlfoPlus2 yet? They promise “ALFOplus2 full 
outdoor solution offers 2Gbps guaranteed throughput, enabling successful launch 
of LTE, by providing best TCO while boosting capacity and availability of the 
network.”

 

And

 

“first full outdoor supporting up to two channels at 80/112MHz in single ODU”

 

I can’t quite figure out how they are getting 2 Gbps..

 

1x80Mhz Channel at 2048QAM = 623 Mbps in my book

2x80Mhz Channel at 2048QAM = 1245 Mbps 

 

So are they really using 4 channels?

 

Channel 1 HxV for 1245

Channel 2 HxV for 1245

 

Total = 2490 Mbps..

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

 

[AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

[Peter Kranz]

Has anyone worked with the SIAE AlfoPlus2 yet? They promise "ALFOplus2 full
outdoor solution offers 2Gbps guaranteed throughput, enabling successful
launch of LTE, by providing best TCO while boosting capacity and
availability of the network."

 

And

 

"first full outdoor supporting up to two channels at 80/112MHz in single
ODU"

 

I can't quite figure out how they are getting 2 Gbps..

 

1x80Mhz Channel at 2048QAM = 623 Mbps in my book

2x80Mhz Channel at 2048QAM = 1245 Mbps 

 

So are they really using 4 channels?

 

Channel 1 HxV for 1245

Channel 2 HxV for 1245

 

Total = 2490 Mbps..

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

[Peter Kranz]

Weird interface option..   You need to use the SFP + 2 Coppers to get the 3 
Gbps out of it.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

Approximate price?

Looks like the specs are intended mostly for European sales. 1000 MHz wide 
channel is usable in the USA and would survive rain a lot better (you can go 
down to QPSK with certain code rates and still do 1Gbps FDD). 

Though it's good to see it's still >1Gbps at 500 MHz 16QAM.

 

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Daniel Gerlach <danielgerl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:danielgerl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

@stefan

check the Ultralink-FX80..It achieves throughputs of up to 3 Gbit/s, while 
offering a complete set of networking and packet synchronization features 
necessary for 4G RAN backhaul!
* 60 cm / 51 dBi (Compliant with ETSI EN 302 217 Class 3)

and the Price is cheaper than Siklu and Bridgewave!

Daniel

 

2016-04-14 3:33 GMT+02:00 Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >:

Next time 

On Apr 13, 2016 7:15 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

I hate the spring loaded version with a passion.. Try the commscope ones and I 
bet you will be a convert too.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:02 PM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

Oops...not those..  I was a stop light and hadn't zoomed in.the spring 
loaded version 

On Apr 13, 2016 5:54 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Those are them 

On Apr 13, 2016 5:29 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

If you haven’t tried the commscope mounts with the Siklus you should also try 
them.. 100x times better than the standard siklu mount.

 



 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:47 AM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

I prefer Siklu over Bridgewave for one important reason... mounting and 
alignment brackets...better thought process into aligning at such critical 
frequencies 

On Apr 13, 2016 11:09 AM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

This is no longer true.. Check out the EtherHaul-2500’s .. I offers the same 
output power as the Bridgewave units.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

Max transmit power on the Siklus is +7 or +10 (which you can put into a 51.5 
dBi gain 60cm antenna), so you will never go as far at five nines reliability 
as a more expensive, high powered 80 GHz link (Bridgewave, E-Band) which has 
+18 or +19 Tx power.

It depends on how far you're trying to go and your rain zone/rain rate in 
mm/hour.

Of course there is serious rain fade, it's 80 GHz. You just have to engineer 
the link right.

 

 

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 1:19 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net 
<mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote:

Experience with 80GHz on short links (Looking for a 1mile link)?

Rain Fade?

Stability of Hardware?

 

There is no planning tool on their website, no manual, no firmware download 
site.

Looks like you’ve to pay even for SW-Fixes?

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

[Peter Kranz]

I hate the spring loaded version with a passion.. Try the commscope ones and I 
bet you will be a convert too.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:02 PM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

Oops...not those..  I was a stop light and hadn't zoomed in.the spring 
loaded version 

On Apr 13, 2016 5:54 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Those are them 

On Apr 13, 2016 5:29 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

If you haven’t tried the commscope mounts with the Siklus you should also try 
them.. 100x times better than the standard siklu mount.

 



 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:47 AM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

I prefer Siklu over Bridgewave for one important reason... mounting and 
alignment brackets...better thought process into aligning at such critical 
frequencies 

On Apr 13, 2016 11:09 AM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

This is no longer true.. Check out the EtherHaul-2500’s .. I offers the same 
output power as the Bridgewave units.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

Max transmit power on the Siklus is +7 or +10 (which you can put into a 51.5 
dBi gain 60cm antenna), so you will never go as far at five nines reliability 
as a more expensive, high powered 80 GHz link (Bridgewave, E-Band) which has 
+18 or +19 Tx power.

It depends on how far you're trying to go and your rain zone/rain rate in 
mm/hour.

Of course there is serious rain fade, it's 80 GHz. You just have to engineer 
the link right.

 

 

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 1:19 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net 
<mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote:

Experience with 80GHz on short links (Looking for a 1mile link)?

Rain Fade?

Stability of Hardware?

 

There is no planning tool on their website, no manual, no firmware download 
site.

Looks like you’ve to pay even for SW-Fixes?

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

[Peter Kranz]

If you haven’t tried the commscope mounts with the Siklus you should also try 
them.. 100x times better than the standard siklu mount.

 



 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:47 AM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

I prefer Siklu over Bridgewave for one important reason... mounting and 
alignment brackets...better thought process into aligning at such critical 
frequencies 

On Apr 13, 2016 11:09 AM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

This is no longer true.. Check out the EtherHaul-2500’s .. I offers the same 
output power as the Bridgewave units.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

Max transmit power on the Siklus is +7 or +10 (which you can put into a 51.5 
dBi gain 60cm antenna), so you will never go as far at five nines reliability 
as a more expensive, high powered 80 GHz link (Bridgewave, E-Band) which has 
+18 or +19 Tx power.

It depends on how far you're trying to go and your rain zone/rain rate in 
mm/hour.

Of course there is serious rain fade, it's 80 GHz. You just have to engineer 
the link right.

 

 

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 1:19 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net 
<mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote:

Experience with 80GHz on short links (Looking for a 1mile link)?

Rain Fade?

Stability of Hardware?

 

There is no planning tool on their website, no manual, no firmware download 
site.

Looks like you’ve to pay even for SW-Fixes?

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

[Peter Kranz]

This is no longer true.. Check out the EtherHaul-2500’s .. I offers the same 
output power as the Bridgewave units.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu

 

Max transmit power on the Siklus is +7 or +10 (which you can put into a 51.5 
dBi gain 60cm antenna), so you will never go as far at five nines reliability 
as a more expensive, high powered 80 GHz link (Bridgewave, E-Band) which has 
+18 or +19 Tx power.

It depends on how far you're trying to go and your rain zone/rain rate in 
mm/hour.

Of course there is serious rain fade, it's 80 GHz. You just have to engineer 
the link right.

 

 

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 1:19 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net 
<mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote:

Experience with 80GHz on short links (Looking for a 1mile link)?

Rain Fade?

Stability of Hardware?

 

There is no planning tool on their website, no manual, no firmware download 
site.

Looks like you’ve to pay even for SW-Fixes?

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

[Peter Kranz]

Nobody has an 80Ghz SFP+ capable radio avail yet that I know of.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 3:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

 

Looking at the 2200FX it has regular SFP ports, so at 2Gbps (500 MHz channel 
32QAM?) FDD, you can only achieve 2Gbps by doing an 802.3ad between two 
routers. In which case no single customer data stream will exeed 1Gbps. Not 
quite the same thing as having a radio with a SFP+ 10GbE interface.

That said it will probably be less costly than the equivalent options from 
Bridgewave, E-Band or perhaps SIAE.

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

[Peter Kranz]

Siklu has both a high power and low power 2Gbps radio now. The high power unit 
is not on their website but due next month and its really much more than the 
cheap one honestly. 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 1:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

 

Without violating any manufacturer's NDA, this is the tip of an iceberg, the 
Russians just happen to be publishing info a tiny bit earlier than the other 80 
GHz radio manufacturers. There are 10GbE 256QAM FDD radios in development and 
field testing from all of the significant players in the industry. 

I would expect the 'new' 5Gbps to 10Gbps radios to ship in the US at a price 
point under $20k per link including antennas, which will occupy the price tier 
previously occupied by the 1Gbps high-powered 80 GHz stuff that began shipping 
3.5 to 4 years ago. Then you have the lower powered less expensive 80 GHz stuff 
like Siklu which has a max Tx power of +8 or +10 and will come down further 
from its already-low price under $10k/link.

 

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

Putting 2 and 2 together, from a FB post, it looks like they're 20k GBP per 
link. That sounds simply awesome if they are.



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP






  _  


From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 5:42:25 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

http://www.elva-1.com/news_events/a40107

http://www.elva-1.com/products/a40106

http://www.elva-1.com/data/files/Datasheets/2016_02_24_PPC-10G.pdf



2000 MHz wide channel and 256QAM for 10 Gbps in the FDD 71-86 GHz bands. 
Question is...  What's the Rx level needed for that, and how quickly does it 
drop off with rain?



 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

[Peter Kranz]

Hi Chuck, How long until this is in distribution? If it’s not available for 30 
days, have you checked out that CommScope unit?

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 5:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

 

Actually my new one is much better.  

Not on the web site yet or in the dealer price lists.  

 

From: Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>  

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 5:27 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

 

http://www.mccowntech.com/chain-mount/

 

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

Need to mount a 24” dish and a sector antenna to a telephone pole.. Anyone used 
these things? The right way to go? It’s a heavy wind area.. Kinda looks like 
you just throw some lag bolts in and you are good to go.

 

https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=367000

 



Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

[Peter Kranz]

Its $145 on Tessco, pipe is 1.9” OD by 25.0” in length.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

 

Maybe you should first state the price available to your of the item you are 
referencing, along with any additional requirements.

 

All you showed was a picture of something GSA catalog related - which means it 
normally costs a bazillion dollars :)

 

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

Less pipe, a lot more expensive if I need to buy 2 of them and 1 longer 
connecting pipe designed for it...

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

 

http://www.mccowntech.com/chain-mount/

 

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

Need to mount a 24” dish and a sector antenna to a telephone pole.. Anyone used 
these things? The right way to go? It’s a heavy wind area.. Kinda looks like 
you just throw some lag bolts in and you are good to go.

 

https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=367000

 



Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

[Peter Kranz]

Less pipe, a lot more expensive if I need to buy 2 of them and 1 longer 
connecting pipe designed for it...

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

 

http://www.mccowntech.com/chain-mount/

 

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

Need to mount a 24” dish and a sector antenna to a telephone pole.. Anyone used 
these things? The right way to go? It’s a heavy wind area.. Kinda looks like 
you just throw some lag bolts in and you are good to go.

 

https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=367000

 



Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

 

[AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

[Peter Kranz]

Need to mount a 24" dish and a sector antenna to a telephone pole.. Anyone
used these things? The right way to go? It's a heavy wind area.. Kinda looks
like you just throw some lag bolts in and you are good to go.

 

https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=367000

 



Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Need FSK APs, will travel

[Peter Kranz]

I may have some connectorized units here in Berkeley, CA in the warehouse.
If you want them I can dig around.

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need FSK APs, will travel

Oh, and connectorized.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:07 AM
To: 'AF Cambium List (af@afmug.com)' <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Need FSK APs, will travel

I'm in the market for 3-6 FSK APs today somewhere in central California.
I'll come pick them up!  Please hit me off-list if you have any, boards
without cases OK.  We're searching our inventory now for spares.  Or call
209-838-1221 x905.

Thx,
Scott

[AFMUG] Here's an idea... a POE+ powered power injector..

[Peter Kranz]

So all this talk of power injectors lately brought this idea to mind..

 

What about a tower mounted box, that could be powered by 48V 60W POE+

It would provide 4 switchable outputs of 24V Cambium or UBNT output.
Allowing you to overload a single ethernet cable up your tower with 4 access
points.

 

Perhaps an interesting accessory to these various power injector options..

 



 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

[Peter Kranz]

18 ports sounds reasonable to me, it will fit the needs to most any site. I 
could see myself buying 2 units and stacking them such that 50% of my APs were 
connected to unit #1 and 50% connected to unit #2.

 

On pricing, if you don’t require sync, this unit would somewhat compete with 
the UBNT EdgeSwitch, ES-16-150W, that unit is $300 for 16 24V and PoE+ ports. 
But it does lack several features you provide.

 

The alternative Netonix WS-12-400AC is $399.95

 

So the $800 price is a great deal compared to the CTM-2 product, but about 
double the UBNT and Netonix competitor.

 

I think the uplift from $400 to $800 would be worth it if it supported more 
voltage standards than the UBNT product, and provided redundant power options 
that both of those devices lacked.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:41 AM
To: af <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

 

Well, it looks like it might actually be finally happening. 

 

We are about 98% sure we have a rackmount enclosure manufacturer which we can 
work with. Domestic.  Product looks decent.  Price is right.

 

Which means it's time to nail down a few details here, such as number of ports, 
so I can get some enclosures cut and boards made and hopefully get this 
elephant out of the room  

 

 So I need some input:

 

The rough figures I'm working with here is $800 for a 18 port rackmount power 
injector.  Voltage and pinning jumper selectable per port. Per-port control of 
power and sync.  Probably some redundant power and other things built in, but 
I'm still nailing those details down (a lot of it comes down to space on the 
front panel of the enclosure).

 

PLEASE NOTE:  The prices here are soft - until I get the design completed I 
won't know what I can sell this for - as many of  you know I try to price 
things at a fair price as opposed to what the market will bear.

 

The main questions I have for the list are:

 

Is 18 the correct number of ports?   18 is looking like about the most I can 
fit based on front panel dimensions.  This corresponds to 3 blocks of 6 ports 
(if you lose a port and need to replace it, you'd replace 6 at a time).   

 

Other options are 16 (4 blocks of 4), and pretty much any smaller quantities of 
ports which are divisible by 4 or 6.   

 

I guess what I'm really asking here is whether the 18 port version for $800 is 
the only version of this I should make or carry, or does it make sense to sell 
(as an example) an 8 port version for $400 instead of or in addition to this?   

 




 

-- 


Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602

 <mailto:forre...@imach.com> forre...@imach.com |  <http://www.packetflux.com/> 
http://www.packetflux.com

 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>   <http://facebook.com/packetflux>   
<http://twitter.com/@packetflux> 

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Re: [AFMUG] Startups undercutting pricing

[Peter Kranz]

Just outcompete them on the quality of your product and services. If they suck, 
the customers will come back to you in the long run.  Find a cheaper source of 
bandwidth. Honestly bandwidth charges are the least of my concerns at this 
point in my business. Other costs eclipse this cost by such large margins it 
doesn’t even show up on my map.

 

-PK

Re: [AFMUG] Is this a typo? Google builds 100kW 80 GHz transmitter.

[Peter Kranz]

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/29/project-skybender-google-drone-tests-internet-spaceport-virgin-galactic

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 10:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this a typo? Google builds 100kW 80 GHz transmitter.

 

I actually know why they are building it.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 6:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] Is this a typo? Google builds 100kW 80 GHz transmitter.

 

http://hackaday.com/2016/03/02/google-is-building-a-100kw-radio-transmitter-at-a-spaceport-and-no-one-knows-why/

Based on the eirp sounds like a typo or copy/paste error.

Re: [AFMUG] Is this a typo? Google builds 100kW 80 GHz transmitter.

[Peter Kranz]

I actually know why they are building it.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 6:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Is this a typo? Google builds 100kW 80 GHz transmitter.

 

http://hackaday.com/2016/03/02/google-is-building-a-100kw-radio-transmitter-at-a-spaceport-and-no-one-knows-why/

Based on the eirp sounds like a typo or copy/paste error.

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage powerinjector withredundant power..

[Peter Kranz]

Do you want surge suppressors on each circuit? I personally do not require 
surge suppressors, I’ve always assumed the surge suppression should be outside 
the shack, not in the rack.

 

Do you want individually replaceable circuits or all on one board? Assuming the 
board is designed not to grenade under reasonable failure scenarios it can be 
all one board

 

How many ports? 24 ports.

 

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

[Peter Kranz]

You are right, the CTM2 _is_ pretty damn close but:

 

They are very pricey

They only have 8 ports

The AC power supplies are built into the unit and cannot be replaced without 
taking the device out of service... I guess DC power is a solution to this

It has unwanted (by me) timing features

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant 
power..

 

Aren't the CTM2's like 2k/each?

 

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

You just described the last mile gear CTM2

 

-Sean 



On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

Here is my ideal solution:

 

-  Solid state fusing on each radio, so that I get cable or radio 
damage it doesn’t take down my entire +24V power rail, it just shuts down that 
port

-  The ability to enable/disable the power rail remotely to each port 
for hard resets

-  A power rail that accepts two power supplies and will handle the 
failure of either device without dropping the APs

-  19” rack mountable

-  If device requires fans or internal power supplies, they should be 
replaceable without having to take the unit out of service.

 

Nice to have (but not a deal killer)

 

-  Multi-voltage capable... 48V UPOE for Siklus, 24V for UBNT and 
Cambium 

 

What I don’t want

 

-  A built in switch, I already have fancy ass switches, why do I need 
another switch in the way, probably with crappy features and poor buffers.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk:  <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile:   510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:27 PM
To:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector withredundant power..

 

The power bus can be done.  But price will jump quite a bit.  I have worked up 
a design for this but always backed off due to the cost.  One of the problems 
is that there is a connector I need that cannot be put on the circuit board by 
machine.  Lots of hand work.  So if I build it will anyone come?

 

From: Peter Kranz 

Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:55 PM

To:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector withredundant power..

 

I like the idea, but no solid state fusing, no power buss, tons of wiring, it’s 
a mess to deploy this when you have over 20 APs on a single tower.. 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk:  <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile:   510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 10:35 AM
To:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant 
power..

 

 

 

GigE-POE- APC 
http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-gige-poe-apc-surge-suppressor-power-inserter-protector/

 

You can load 24 of them in a 1U rack

 

-Sean 

On Monday, February 29, 2016, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

Curious if anyone has recommendations on a mid-span power injector that 
supports multiple voltages and provides redundant power, ideally hot-swappable. 
I don’t really want a switch like the netonix boxes, I’d rather just have a 
mid-span device. 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk:  <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile:   510-207-
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com');

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector withredundant power..

[Peter Kranz]

Here is my ideal solution:

 

-  Solid state fusing on each radio, so that I get cable or radio 
damage it doesn’t take down my entire +24V power rail, it just shuts down that 
port

-  The ability to enable/disable the power rail remotely to each port 
for hard resets

-  A power rail that accepts two power supplies and will handle the 
failure of either device without dropping the APs

-  19” rack mountable

-  If device requires fans or internal power supplies, they should be 
replaceable without having to take the unit out of service.

 

Nice to have (but not a deal killer)

 

-  Multi-voltage capable... 48V UPOE for Siklus, 24V for UBNT and 
Cambium 

 

What I don’t want

 

-  A built in switch, I already have fancy ass switches, why do I need 
another switch in the way, probably with crappy features and poor buffers.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector withredundant power..

 

The power bus can be done.  But price will jump quite a bit.  I have worked up 
a design for this but always backed off due to the cost.  One of the problems 
is that there is a connector I need that cannot be put on the circuit board by 
machine.  Lots of hand work.  So if I build it will anyone come?

 

From: Peter Kranz <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>  

Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:55 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector withredundant power..

 

I like the idea, but no solid state fusing, no power buss, tons of wiring, it’s 
a mess to deploy this when you have over 20 APs on a single tower.. 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 10:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant 
power..

 

 

 

GigE-POE- APC 
http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-gige-poe-apc-surge-suppressor-power-inserter-protector/

 

You can load 24 of them in a 1U rack

 

-Sean 

On Monday, February 29, 2016, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

Curious if anyone has recommendations on a mid-span power injector that 
supports multiple voltages and provides redundant power, ideally hot-swappable. 
I don’t really want a switch like the netonix boxes, I’d rather just have a 
mid-span device. 

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com');

 

Re: [AFMUG] 40G

[Peter Kranz]

The sup6t comes out in a few weeks.. and these cards work fine with a sup720, 
or sup2t.. once the sup6t is available, I would expect the other two cards to 
be worth almost nothing.  

 

Also use the 6807-xl chassis now if you want 100g capabilities.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 40G

 

Though you need the whole platform to go with them, a pair of sup2t routing 
engines are not cheap. At least the chassis is. The 6500 will never die.

On Feb 29, 2016 10:46 AM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

These cards are a steal...

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-WS-X6904-40G-2T-4-Port-40G-Fiber-Module-w-DFC4-1-Year-Warranty-/271954878441?hash=item3f51c61fe9:g:KDsAAOSw9N1VylhW

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 8:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] 40G

 

For those of you that have looked at 40G, what are your thoughts on the 
hardware available? I'm looking at primarily switching, though something that 
does VPLS, CE or similar features would be nice. Something with TRILL or a 
TRILL derivative would be nice too.

I'm not talking Juniper MX scale. Light on power is one of the biggest 
priorities.

It doesn't need to have a million ports, either. I do like the Nexus 9k that 
we've got, but in some areas, something with more functionality would be nice.

I'm perfectly aware that what I want feature wise may not be available cost 
wise.



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
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<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

[Peter Kranz]

I like the idea, but no solid state fusing, no power buss, tons of wiring, it’s 
a mess to deploy this when you have over 20 APs on a single tower.. 

 

Peter Kranz
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Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 10:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant 
power..

 

 

 

GigE-POE- APC 
http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-gige-poe-apc-surge-suppressor-power-inserter-protector/

 

You can load 24 of them in a 1U rack

 

-Sean 

On Monday, February 29, 2016, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

Curious if anyone has recommendations on a mid-span power injector that 
supports multiple voltages and provides redundant power, ideally hot-swappable. 
I don’t really want a switch like the netonix boxes, I’d rather just have a 
mid-span device. 

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com');> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 40G

[Peter Kranz]

These cards are a steal...

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-WS-X6904-40G-2T-4-Port-40G-Fiber-Module-w-DFC4-1-Year-Warranty-/271954878441?hash=item3f51c61fe9:g:KDsAAOSw9N1VylhW

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 8:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 40G

 

For those of you that have looked at 40G, what are your thoughts on the 
hardware available? I'm looking at primarily switching, though something that 
does VPLS, CE or similar features would be nice. Something with TRILL or a 
TRILL derivative would be nice too.

I'm not talking Juniper MX scale. Light on power is one of the biggest 
priorities.

It doesn't need to have a million ports, either. I do like the Nexus 9k that 
we've got, but in some areas, something with more functionality would be nice.

I'm perfectly aware that what I want feature wise may not be available cost 
wise.



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 

[AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

[Peter Kranz]

Curious if anyone has recommendations on a mid-span power injector that
supports multiple voltages and provides redundant power, ideally
hot-swappable. I don't really want a switch like the netonix boxes, I'd
rather just have a mid-span device. 

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 10G switches with more than 4 ports?

[Peter Kranz]

Is a ASR903 populated very affordable? I would guess lots of pesos.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 2:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G switches with more than 4 ports?

Try the ASR903 for your “core” switch need?  Dual power (AC/DC), Dual RSPs (if 
you want) and mix/match your interfaces you want.  Copper/Fiber 1G/10G/etc

Wont do full BGP tables, but for MPLS/switching you’ll be good with it.

I’m looking at replacing a 6504 with one.

> On Feb 12, 2016, at 2:47 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> Anyone familiar with some 10G sfp+ switches that have more than 4 ports, that 
> are on the "less" expensive side?
> 
> Also is there such a thing as a "core" switch that offers redundancy with 
> multiple supervisors ?

Re: [AFMUG] 500 Foot Cat-5 Run

[Peter Kranz]

These things are the bomb for this kinda of situation… POE powered mid-span 
extender.. Gets you to 660 feet possible..

 



 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 12:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 500 Foot Cat-5 Run

 

I have a ~500 foot buried cat-5 run that works fine at 10base FDX but not 
100base.  Anyone know of a way to get it to run 100base?  I need about 20mbps 
out of this.

Re: [AFMUG] What brand is this antenna?

[Peter Kranz]

Naw.. it’s a Cisco AIR-ANT5140NV-R TNC 5GHz MIMO Wall-Mounted Omnidirectional 
Antenna

 

-PK

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 6:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What brand is this antenna?

 

This maybe?

http://www.l-com.com/tabbeditem_mobi.aspx?id=69566

On Feb 7, 2016 8:01 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  > wrote:

Outside Walmart 

Re: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?

[Peter Kranz]

If you require full BGP tables it will radically change the routers available 
to you, as many of the cavium based and Broadcom based cheap routers cannot 
handle more than 256k TCAM entries. Global routing tables IPv4+IPv6 are well 
over 600k routes these days.

 

There are several commodity linux based software routers that are capable of 
10G and cheap, but I don’t know if I would bet the bank on them.

 

Both Juniper and Cisco have small 1U/2U devices currently that support both 
full tables and a large quantity of 10G ports using custom silicon. Some grey 
market inventory available, especially on the Juniper side.

 

-PK

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 3:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?

 

What are some options for 10G capable routers that won't break the bank that 
have 3+ 10G ports? Was planning two ccr1072 with ibgp but maybe I should be 
considering something else ?

Also what are some models of 10G switches (sfp+) that have 4+ ports?

Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

[Peter Kranz]

There is a new NCS 5000 router out from Cisco which looks interesting.. It’s a 
single rack unit, and it provides 40 1/10G ports and 4 100G ports.. Its list 
price is $50k I think which could be a game changer if true. 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 1:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

 

care to give some specific's in pricing and models of routers that can do 100G 
routing and cost less than $100k ? 

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> 

 

  _  

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 10:03:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

Less than $100k. The chassis, enhanced scbs and high end routing engines are 
fairly cheap. 100Gbps line cards are in demand and very hard to find, as 
there's no real upgrade from there.

10Gbps is cheap and has been replaced by 40/100Gbps gear, so there is plentiful 
equipment on the great market.

On Feb 5, 2016 8:57 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> > wrote:



It's not un-common to do 100Gpbs as follows:-
   Bonding 10x 10G circuits
   Bonding a combination of 40G circuits.

providing 100G switched transport is easy.
Having a router, to do 100G transport is not,
Expect to pay approx $100k for a router (loaded ready to go, on the 2ndary 
markets)

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> 

- Original Message -
> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net> 
> >
> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
> >
> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 1:01:09 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

> So... Let's just say, for a minute, that I could sell Adobe a 100Gbps line.
>
> What would that be priced at?
>
> I think I can do it technically with a pair of fiber I can get end to end.
>
> Are their LD optics at 100Gbps yet?
>
> Or are we still talking dense wave multiplexing?

 

Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

[Peter Kranz]

PS The NCS-5001 can’t handle full tables, so you have to do FIB optimization if 
you want to use full tables. If you need full routes without FIB optimization 
look at the Juniper PTX1000 as an alternative. 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

 

Actually the global price list says for the NCS-5001 says $40k

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 2:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

 

There is a new NCS 5000 router out from Cisco which looks interesting.. It’s a 
single rack unit, and it provides 40 1/10G ports and 4 100G ports.. Its list 
price is $50k I think which could be a game changer if true. 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

[Peter Kranz]

Actually the global price list says for the NCS-5001 says $40k

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 2:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

 

There is a new NCS 5000 router out from Cisco which looks interesting.. It’s a 
single rack unit, and it provides 40 1/10G ports and 4 100G ports.. Its list 
price is $50k I think which could be a game changer if true. 

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

[Peter Kranz]

A decent price for a 100G point to point circuit is ~$12k/month in a
competitive market. I've paid as low as $8k for a 100G point to point with a
lot of competition involved.

Cost of deploying will vary greatly based on how you decide to approach it..
If you do anything layer2 or higher, it will cost you more to deploy.

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:01 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

So... Let's just say, for a minute, that I could sell Adobe a 100Gbps line.

What would that be priced at?

I think I can do it technically with a pair of fiber I can get end to end.

Are their LD optics at 100Gbps yet?

Or are we still talking dense wave multiplexing?

Re: [AFMUG] UPS

[Peter Kranz]

The Alpha UPS units are my favorites right now.. Not quite 1U, but reasonably 
priced and loaded with features.
http://www.alpha.ca/solutions/solutions-alpha-catalog/standard-systems/outdoor-ups-solutions


Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] UPS

Is there such a thing as a small 1U rack mount UPS that has no internal 
batteries but only external battery terminal?  Would be nice for some of our 
bigger sites with auto start generators.

Re: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

[Peter Kranz]

Sorry . I'm looking for a RADIO that provides >= 2 Gbps without requiring
Etherchannl or LAG..

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 11:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

 

Is there anything out there supporting 10G ports yet? I need to install
several 2G links for a large event and don't want to aggregate 1G ports..

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

[Peter Kranz]

Checking into it.. I’ll report back.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

 

yes it was Dragonwave

 

sorry 

 

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> 

 





On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:03 PM -0800, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

See, it isn't just me that wants SFP+ ports on radios...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 


  _  


From: "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 1:42:57 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

Is there anything out there supporting 10G ports yet? I need to install several 
2G links for a large event and don’t want to aggregate 1G ports..

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

 

[AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

[Peter Kranz]

Is there anything out there supporting 10G ports yet? I need to install
several 2G links for a large event and don't want to aggregate 1G ports..

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

[Peter Kranz]

Dragonwave:

 

“Our Harmony Enhanced Multi-Channel Radio will have a 10 G port, but 

That feature isn’t scheduled to be released until early next year.

“

 

Bridgewave:

 

“that is being added late Q2 2016 or early Q3 2016”

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

 

Checking into it.. I’ll report back.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> ; af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

 

yes it was Dragonwave

 

sorry 

 

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> 

 

 

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:03 PM -0800, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

See, it isn't just me that wants SFP+ ports on radios...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 


  _  


From: "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 1:42:57 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

Is there anything out there supporting 10G ports yet? I need to install several 
2G links for a large event and don’t want to aggregate 1G ports..

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Fusion Splicers

[Peter Kranz]

I have a INNO View 5.. Happy with it, no problems so far.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Utick
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:48 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Fusion Splicers

 

Anyone have any experience or feedback on INNO View 5 & 7 Fusion splicers, or 
Orientek T40?Interesting pricing on those, but wanted to see if anyone here 
had any practical real world experience, how well they work, reliability, 
availability of service and parts if needed?

Thanks!

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.

[Peter Kranz]

How do you make money at $2k per sub? If the sub is paying $49/month for 
internet, that will take forever to pay off.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.

 

If I do a simple calculation of money invested/loaned and number of subs I get 
$2088 per sub.

 

That’s active Ethernet, full burial conduit to each house/unit with lots of 
miles of overbuild and miles and miles of extra fiber/conduit.

 

We also build at cost, not full retail (partners are build crews).

 

I expect from here on out to be nearer half that using existing infrastructure 
and possibly GPON.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.

 

How are all of you fiber guys paying to get this stuff in the ground ? All self 
financing ?

What is a good estimate to bore say 100 or 500 houses passed in a suburban 
neighborhood that's all asphalt and concrete sidewalks with ~5000sqft lots for 
pon? I know it could vary vastly but just a ball park ? $1000 per house passed 
? 

Re: [AFMUG] I'll be late for dinner

[Peter Kranz]

Well that certainly blows..

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 2:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] I'll be late for dinner

How's your day going?

[AFMUG] Fiber to the home...

[Peter Kranz]

What do you people generally spend for each lateral to a home assuming it is
an aerial lateral?

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Large slabs of wood

[Peter Kranz]

Hey Chuck, this is a 6/4 slab, sanded down to 5/4. Its 103" long and 44"
wide. For 46 bdft. The list price was $1384 but it came with a 40% discount
of $553.. So since shipping was free, it was a $831 slab. 

 

Since the slab came pre-sanded, final finishing was actually significantly
easier and cost me less in supplies than processing non sanded slabs.

 

-PK

Re: [AFMUG] OT Large slabs of wood

[Peter Kranz]

How do you keep something that wide from curling? Attaching some kind of cross 
grain stabalizing board?

 

These slabs are all hardwoods, so I guess they are more resistant to that kind 
of thing. They also are kilned and rather thick. I’ve not noticed any 
dimensional changes working with African Mahogany or Bubinga in 6/4 
thicknesses. I’ve made four full slab desktops out of the stuff now. 

 

I did insert butterflies along defects however.

Re: [AFMUG] How much space in 70 ghz?

[Peter Kranz]

Don’t forget the Siklu’s are a single polarity... So you can also add another 
set of radios on the alternative polarity. This gives you a total of 16 1 Gbps 
paths or 16 2 Gbps paths for the new 2200..

 

-PK

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How much space in 70 ghz?

 

Hmm, looking at the spec sheet, the 2200 does 2g @ 500 so you could use up to 8 

http://www.siklu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/EH2200F-Data-SheetFX-web.pdf




On Jan 16, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Gino Villarini  > wrote:

any way to squeeze 5? trying 10G

 

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Carl Peterson  > wrote:


8 Siklus at a gig FD by my math.  With the 2200 I would guess 4 at 2G FD each.


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini   > wrote:
>
> Wondering how many PTP links could be aggregated on the same path

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Large slabs of wood

[Peter Kranz]

I've done several projects like this, I've found this outfit to be my go-to.
They offer free shipping with adequate board-ft purchased, and have some
really great wood. I made several bubinga tables with their slabs last year.

 

https://www.westpennhardwoods.com/

 

 

-PK

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Large slabs of wood

 

I  need to build a large large table.  Like to find someone that has to
large slabs of trees.

 

I am thinking of a wrought iron looking base for it but large slabs on the
top.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Large slabs of wood

[Peter Kranz]

I used this slab to make my standing desk:

 

 
 

 

-PK 

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

[Peter Kranz]

>> Does that include transport costs or local loop?

These are priced from an on-net data center.. you would be responsible for 
transport.

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

[Peter Kranz]

Jesus.. I spend under $.50/meg.. Can buy capacity on that PRBI fiber span to 
Miami?

 

Peter Kranz
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Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:51 AM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

 

a bit below $10 per meg 

 

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com 
<mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > wrote:

How much does bandwidth cost you in Puerto Rico?  Figured it would be
quite high there.



On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> hi guys! spent most of the weekend doing a website for our new mdu project
>
> please check it out! feedback appreciated!
>
> its currently being hosted on a test site:
>
> http://gigabit1.x10host.com/
>
> please let me know if a background image is being loaded in the faq page...
> its not loading for me!

 

Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile Deploying 5 GHz Yet?

[Peter Kranz]

I guess I agree with your assertion that LTE in unlicensed spectrum will not be 
on high level cell towers, but you might want to look at this presentation from 
one of the cell phone chipset vendors: 
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/making-best-use-unlicensed-spectrum-presentation
 

Notice all the places they show LTE in Unlicensed Spectrum being used. Imagine 
the effect if thousands of devices deployed in these environments used the 5Ghz 
band, especially that supermarket scenario where the sector is mounted outside 
the building. 

 



 

This is how they are going to share the spectrum fairly. Imagine the fun with 
these pulsing interference sources. I.e. a jammer for 50ms on and then off.

 



 

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Mobile: 510-207-
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Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

[Peter Kranz]

https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=472603

 

Cheaper.. but thinner as well..

 

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Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 1:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

 

Yes, tractor supply pen mats work great. 

 

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/rubber-mat-black-4-ft-x-6-ft

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Best autocorrect of the day.

 

 

From: Lewis Bergman <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:25 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

 

We bought 100 foot rolls from tractor supply. I think they are used for animal 
poems or something. Cheapest we found for a heavy rubber pad.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016, 3:16 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

Where do you guys get your rubber mats?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 4:09 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually... I’ve 
seen plenty of examples where other company’s non-pen’s have eaten holes 
through rooftops.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

 

If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the bottom, will 
this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?  Are weld beads OK.

 

Do you always use rubber mats under them?

 

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

[Peter Kranz]

I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually...
I've seen plenty of examples where other company's non-pen's have eaten
holes through rooftops.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

 

If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the bottom,
will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?  Are weld
beads OK.

 

Do you always use rubber mats under them?

Re: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

[Peter Kranz]

I've used ESGOB for about a year, I have not had any trouble with it so far.
It's very easy to set up and free, so there is not much downside to just
giving it a go.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 6:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

 

What is the history of this?Who here has been using them for a year or
so?

 

I ask because it says they currently host "thousands of zones".  On the one
hand that may seem like a large number, but we are a small ISP and have 100+
zones just by ourselves.  I could see one large ISP having thousands of
zones by themselves.  Wouldn't they be open to DNS attacks (possibly more
because of their exposure) that we would have no control of mitigating ?

 

Hoping that we can get some input on this

 

Paul

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

 

Paul,

Check this out: https://noc.esgob.com/secondary_dns

 

Location map: https://noc.esgob.com/

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 7:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

 

Anybody want to host a simple DNS VM in exchange for the same?  Just a
little easier than hosting something like that on AWS.

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com/> 

pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

[Peter Kranz]

Paul,

Check this out: https://noc.esgob.com/secondary_dns

 

Location map: https://noc.esgob.com/

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 7:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

 

Anybody want to host a simple DNS VM in exchange for the same?  Just a
little easier than hosting something like that on AWS.

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com/> 

pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Ruckus Gear Rental

[Peter Kranz]

Gino,

I have 10x ZoneFlex T301’s (120 degree beam) and 2x ZoneFlex T300 (Omni 
pattern) that I use for temp event coverage. I have not thought of leasing 
them, but might.. What is the duration you would need the equipment for and the 
environment they would be in?

 

-PK

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 5:35 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ruckus Gear Rental

 

Anyone knows of an outfit that rents Ruckus gear for events? need about 15 
outdoor APs 

Re: [AFMUG] 48v Rectifier Recommendations

[Peter Kranz]

I’d stay away from any rectifier without hot-swappable components.
Eltek-Valere is the normal go-to source for this kind of thing. Lots of
surplus on ebay if you know what you are looking for. Expensive if you buy
new.

 

-PK

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48v Rectifier Recommendations

 

I throw this name out there alot but dont know if anyone ever bites because
the Cheaper solutions prevail. 
When it comes to power I do not want to keep going back to revise or figure
out what doesnt work.
�
Have a look at these babies from Duracomm. The price is right on these to.
We are having to update a majority of our sites since the release of pmp450i
We also invested in the dc -dc converters and isolators for the -48 needed
for ptp microwave gear.
http://www.duracomm.com/product-category/rack-mount-power-supplies/he1u-mu-s
eries/

�

On 12/31/2015 11:35 AM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:

I need to upgrade several sites from AC to DC.  Usage is 15A or less at
48vdc.  Desire a robust, rack mount, with SNMP solution.  Any specific
recommendations?

 

-- 

Re: [AFMUG] Wise to sell colo services?

[Peter Kranz]

It’s hard to make money in colocation in my experience.. I have 350kW of 
colocaiton (about 100 racks) and basically break even due the challenge of 
keeping it all full. Lots of churn to cloud based services.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 1:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Wise to sell colo services?

 

Would it be wise to do some colo and sell all this unused upstream capacity or 
not worth the trouble? 

[AFMUG] OSHA Injury and Illness Prevention Program..

[Peter Kranz]

Has anyone created one of these? I've got OSHA requesting a copy of ours.
I'd like to "borrow" someone's if they have one.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Injury and Illness Prevention Program..

[Peter Kranz]

We have a job site across the street from the main OSHA headquarters for 
California apparently.

 

The tower on the site passes all the normal visual health checks, and has 
climbing pegs installed. The climber was using appropriate PPE. However, since 
the tower did not have a plaque affixed to it indicating it was man-rated, they 
argue that we did not know if the tower was rated for climbing. I’ve never 
heard this requirement, I’ve always gone with if it passes the health check, 
and has a ladder or pegs installed, it was engineered to allow climbing at the 
time of installation.

 

Peter Kranz
 <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Injury and Illness Prevention Program..

 

How does one get themselves on the OSHA radar?

 

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

I have had good success in hiring OSHA consultants to look me over before OSHA 
has a chance to do the same.  

Cheap insurance.  

 

From: Lewis Bergman <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 11:51 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Injury and Illness Prevention Program..

 

I have one in word that I am pretty sure I gave to WISPA but I have never been 
able to find anything I gave them anywhere.

 

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:16 PM Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> > wrote:

Has anyone created one of these? I’ve got OSHA requesting a copy of ours. I’d 
like to “borrow” someone’s if they have one.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> 
Mobile: 510-207-  
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 





 

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Peter Kranz]

For any new builds you should use 50um since it is 10-Gig compatible. 62.5 is 
being phased out.

 

Peter Kranz
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Mobile: 510-207-
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[AFMUG] What's WinnAIR?

[Peter Kranz]

Some product I have never heard of.. Some kind of wireless NMS. Anyone seen
it?



 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] if you missed it....ubnt tonight in vegas

[Peter Kranz]

>> Hopefully not the test conducted off this radio?

 

That’s the one, in-line attenuation and crap antennas to make that test 
environment as challenging as possible for the hardware/software combination. 

 

>> Why does it show average and Max as the same value in this pic?

 

I’m not sure.. Sometimes they come back the same.. sometimes different.. Here 
are two tests to the same client as in the demo showing both situations:

 



 



 

Peter Kranz
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Mobile: 510-207-
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Re: [AFMUG] New Speedtest.net server for us

[Peter Kranz]

Got this from my desktop.

 



 

Peter Kranz
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Mobile: 510-207-
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Re: [AFMUG] What do you climbers think of this video?

[Peter Kranz]

Well honestly not scary at all. they actually have a deck to walk on and 
extensive safety gear.

Now if you got rid of the walking deck, added wind, water, and some hard to 
reach pipes that you had to clip onto one after another, then it would be more 
interesting.

Then carry a bunch of tools and try to perform various tasks involving bolts 
and wrenches.

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 2:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] What do you climbers think of this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2JbZX33qMo

Gave me white knuckles watching them do it.  I know I'd get used to it but I 
still have a hard time watching others do it.  Hat is off to you climbers

... signed

A desk jockey..