Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-15 Thread Mark Radabaugh
There is a ‘sort of’ standard at least with Andrew / ComScope antenna’s.  With 
the Andrew antenna’s the mounting plate and waveguide adapter is 
interchangeable. Kits exist to swap between the various brands of radios.  
I have turned PTP800 Remec mount and SAF branded antenna’s into 820C’s or 
Ceragon mounts.

Mark

> On Feb 15, 2018, at 1:18 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Out of curiousity, why hasnt a standard mount bewn established. Does the 
> secondary adapter market have some kneebreakers on payroll?
> 
> On Feb 14, 2018 4:38 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" <jeffl...@att.net 
> <mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote:
> Remec rectangular.  I believe Trango is round remec.
> 
> Jeff Broadwick
> CTIconnect
> 312-205-2519 <tel:(312)%20205-2519> Office
> 574-220-7826 <tel:(574)%20220-7826> Cell
> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com>
> 
> On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com 
> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
> 
>> PTP800 is remec 
>> 
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
>> Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
>> <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>> Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 3:27 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
>> theTrango List
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> 
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> PTP820 is also Remec is it not?
>>  
>> From: George Skorup <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:20 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
>> theTrango List
>>  
>> Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz ApexPlus. 
>> That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an adapter to move to 
>> IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?
>> 
>> On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a 
>>> connectorized radio. 
>>>  
>>> From: Jeremy <>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
>>> theTrango List
>>>  
>>> Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get me 
>>> some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as well go 
>>> with a manufacturer that is actually in business, and can support their 
>>> products.  I am just going to replace the link with a higher capacity 
>>> product and move it elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you 
>>> know, thanks!
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <>> wrote:
>>> U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually 
>>> exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have 
>>> some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)
>>>  
>>> But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me 
>>> know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish 
>>> install. 
>>>  
>>> From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists <>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
>>> theTrango List
>>>  
>>> I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other 
>>> platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for 
>>> dishes too.
>>> 
>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>> CTIconnect
>>> 312-205-2519 <tel:%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
>>> 574-220-7826 <tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
>>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <>
>>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec 
>>>> heads, even at MSRP.
>>>>  
>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com <&

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Steve Jones
Out of curiousity, why hasnt a standard mount bewn established. Does the
secondary adapter market have some kneebreakers on payroll?

On Feb 14, 2018 4:38 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" <jeffl...@att.net> wrote:

> Remec rectangular.  I believe Trango is round remec.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> CTIconnect
> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>
> On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
> PTP800 is remec
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 3:27 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on
> theTrango List
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> PTP820 is also Remec is it not?
>
> *From:* George Skorup
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on
> theTrango List
>
> Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz
> ApexPlus. That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an adapter to
> move to IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?
>
> On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a
> connectorized radio.
>
> *From:* Jeremy
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on
> theTrango List
>
> Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get me
> some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as well go
> with a manufacturer that is actually in business, and can support their
> products.  I am just going to replace the link with a higher capacity
> product and move it elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you
> know, thanks!
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually
>> exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have
>> some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)
>>
>> But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me
>> know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish
>> install.
>>
>> *From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be
>> on theTrango List
>>
>> I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other
>> platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for
>> dishes too.
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick
>> CTIconnect
>> 312-205-2519 <%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
>> 574-220-7826 <%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec
>> heads, even at MSRP.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I just sent an
>>> Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks ago.  They said they couldn't
>>> repair it, but offered me the option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But
>>> yes, almost everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was initially
>>> working with on the repair was gone from Trango by the time I actually sent
>>> the radio in.
>>>
>>> On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:
>>>
>>> On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is pretty much out
>>> of business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA onlylikely for a limited
>>> time.  Just tried to get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nah.  Just funnin ya
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No way
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Remec rectangular.  I believe Trango is round remec.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> 
> PTP800 is remec 
> 
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 3:27 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
> theTrango List
> 
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> PTP820 is also Remec is it not?
>  
> From: George Skorup
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:20 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
> theTrango List
>  
> Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz ApexPlus. 
> That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an adapter to move to 
> IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?
> 
>> On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a 
>> connectorized radio. 
>>  
>> From: Jeremy
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
>> theTrango List
>>  
>> Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get me 
>> some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as well go 
>> with a manufacturer that is actually in business, and can support their 
>> products.  I am just going to replace the link with a higher capacity 
>> product and move it elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you 
>> know, thanks!
>>  
>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>> U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually 
>>> exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have 
>>> some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)
>>>  
>>> But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me 
>>> know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish 
>>> install. 
>>>  
>>> From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
>>> theTrango List
>>>  
>>> I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other 
>>> platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for 
>>> dishes too.
>>> 
>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>> CTIconnect
>>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec 
>>>> heads, even at MSRP.
>>>>  
>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>>> They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I just sent an 
>>>>> Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks ago.  They said they 
>>>>> couldn't repair it, but offered me the option to buy a new one at full 
>>>>> MSRP.  But yes, almost everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was 
>>>>> initially working with on the repair was gone from Trango by the time I 
>>>>> actually sent the radio in.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:
>>>>>> On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is pretty much out 
>>>>>> of business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA onlylikely for a limited 
>>>>>> time.  Just tried to get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno 
>>>>>> dice.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>>>>>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Nah.  Just funnin ya
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> No way
>>>>>>>>  
>>

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread George Skorup

Cool. And I assume that's no coincidence with Trango calling it quits.

On 2/14/2018 1:36 PM, Jeremy wrote:
No, PTP820 is Ceragon.  They just released an adapter that will 
interface with the Trango dishes.


On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


PTP820 is also Remec is it not?
*From:* George Skorup
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:20 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .....Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This
should be on theTrango List
Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz
ApexPlus. That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an
adapter to move to IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?

On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you
choose a connectorized radio.
*From:* Jeremy
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .....Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This
should be on theTrango List
Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could
maybe get me some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four
radios I may as well go with a manufacturer that is actually in
business, and can support their products.  I am just going to
replace the link with a higher capacity product and move it
elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you know, thanks!
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:

U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that
does actually exist, (even though Gino is probably given up
hope that that is so.  I have some done for Gino.  Just not
shipped yet.)
But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to
anything, let me know.  I can typically do one for less than
the cost of a new dish/dish install.
*From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .....Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This
    should be on theTrango List
I expect that there will be a robust used market as people
move to other platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer
that has Trango adapters for dishes too.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 <tel:%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
574-220-7826 <tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
wrote:


My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get
any Remec heads, even at MSRP.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke
<n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

They must still have a stockpile of equipment
somewhere.  I just sent an Apex Plus radio in for repair
a couple weeks ago.  They said they couldn't repair it,
but offered me the option to buy a new one at full MSRP.
But yes, almost everyone is gone from Trango.  The
person I was initially working with on the repair was
gone from Trango by the time I actually sent the radio in.

On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:

On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is
pretty much out of business?  No sales force, no sales,
RMA onlylikely for a limited time.  Just tried to
get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nah. Just funnin ya

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

No way
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola]
I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List
...someone say Lents ending?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I remember that and made some comment later
about the animal farm attitude or nature of
what had happened... Chuck ran with it and
AFMUG was born. Something like that...too
many Tecates since then but it's my reality
and you all just live in it .. thinking of
giving up Lent for Lent tomorrow...

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"
<par..

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
PTP800 is remec

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 3:27 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

PTP820 is also Remec is it not?

From: George Skorup
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz ApexPlus. 
That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an adapter to move to 
IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?

On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a 
connectorized radio.

From: Jeremy
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get me some 
Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as well go with a 
manufacturer that is actually in business, and can support their products.  I 
am just going to replace the link with a higher capacity product and move it 
elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you know, thanks!

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually exist, 
(even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have some done 
for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)

But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me know.  
I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish install.

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other 
platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for 
dishes too.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519<tel:%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
574-220-7826<tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec heads, 
even at MSRP.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I just sent an Apex 
Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks ago.  They said they couldn't repair 
it, but offered me the option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But yes, almost 
everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was initially working with on the 
repair was gone from Trango by the time I actually sent the radio in.

On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:
On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is pretty much out of 
business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA onlylikely for a limited time.  
Just tried to get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Nah.  Just funnin ya

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
No way

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the 
Trango List

...someone say Lents ending?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
I remember that and made some comment later about the animal farm attitude or 
nature of what had happened... Chuck ran with it and AFMUG was born.  Something 
like that...too many Tecates since then but it's my reality and you all just 
live in it .. thinking of giving up Lent for Lent tomorrow...

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

is this the one?

a few messages later i see messages like this -

To: CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
Subject: Part-15 list

Are you having problems posting to the list?  I'm getting bounce messages when
I try, and it even bounced when I tried to email bullit directly.

Here is the message:
Invalid final delivery userid: motor...@part-15.org

---

- Original Message -
From: Bullit
To: motor...@part-15.org
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List

LOL, you reall

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Ceragon

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 3:27 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

PTP820 is also Remec is it not?

From: George Skorup
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz ApexPlus. 
That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an adapter to move to 
IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?

On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a 
connectorized radio.

From: Jeremy
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get me some 
Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as well go with a 
manufacturer that is actually in business, and can support their products.  I 
am just going to replace the link with a higher capacity product and move it 
elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you know, thanks!

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually exist, 
(even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have some done 
for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)

But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me know.  
I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish install.

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other 
platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for 
dishes too.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519<tel:%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
574-220-7826<tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec heads, 
even at MSRP.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I just sent an Apex 
Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks ago.  They said they couldn't repair 
it, but offered me the option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But yes, almost 
everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was initially working with on the 
repair was gone from Trango by the time I actually sent the radio in.

On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:
On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is pretty much out of 
business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA onlylikely for a limited time.  
Just tried to get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Nah.  Just funnin ya

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
No way

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the 
Trango List

...someone say Lents ending?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
I remember that and made some comment later about the animal farm attitude or 
nature of what had happened... Chuck ran with it and AFMUG was born.  Something 
like that...too many Tecates since then but it's my reality and you all just 
live in it .. thinking of giving up Lent for Lent tomorrow...

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

is this the one?

a few messages later i see messages like this -

To: CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
Subject: Part-15 list

Are you having problems posting to the list?  I'm getting bounce messages when
I try, and it even bounced when I tried to email bullit directly.

Here is the message:
Invalid final delivery userid: motor...@part-15.org

---

- Original Message -
From: Bullit
To: motor...@part-15.org
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List

LOL, you really hate t

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Jeremy
No, PTP820 is Ceragon.  They just released an adapter that will interface
with the Trango dishes.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> PTP820 is also Remec is it not?
>
> *From:* George Skorup
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .....Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on
> theTrango List
>
> Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz
> ApexPlus. That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an adapter to
> move to IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?
>
> On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a
> connectorized radio.
>
> *From:* Jeremy
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on
> theTrango List
>
> Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get me
> some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as well go
> with a manufacturer that is actually in business, and can support their
> products.  I am just going to replace the link with a higher capacity
> product and move it elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you
> know, thanks!
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually
>> exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have
>> some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)
>>
>> But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me
>> know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish
>> install.
>>
>> *From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be
>> on theTrango List
>>
>> I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other
>> platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for
>> dishes too.
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick
>> CTIconnect
>> 312-205-2519 <%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
>> 574-220-7826 <%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec
>> heads, even at MSRP.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I just sent an
>>> Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks ago.  They said they couldn't
>>> repair it, but offered me the option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But
>>> yes, almost everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was initially
>>> working with on the repair was gone from Trango by the time I actually sent
>>> the radio in.
>>>
>>> On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:
>>>
>>> On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is pretty much out
>>> of business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA onlylikely for a limited
>>> time.  Just tried to get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nah.  Just funnin ya
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No way
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should
>>>>> be on the Trango List
>>>>>
>>>>> ...someone say Lents ending?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember that and made some comment later about the animal farm
>>>>>> attitude or nature of what had happened... Chuck ran with it and AFMUG 
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> born.  Something like that...too many Tecates since then but it's my
>>>>>> reality and you all just live in it .. thinking of giving up Lent for 
>>>>>> Lent
>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Dave

I believe so


On 02/14/2018 01:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

PTP820 is also Remec is it not?
*From:* George Skorup
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:20 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be 
on theTrango List
Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz 
ApexPlus. That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an 
adapter to move to IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?


On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a 
connectorized radio.

*From:* Jeremy
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should 
be on theTrango List
Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz. She said that she could maybe get 
me some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as 
well go with a manufacturer that is actually in business, and can 
support their products.  I am just going to replace the link with a 
higher capacity product and move it elsewhere.  If I need a custom 
adapter I'll let you know, thanks!

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does
actually exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that
that is so.  I have some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)
But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything,
let me know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a
new dish/dish install.
*From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This
should be on theTrango List
I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move
to other platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has
Trango adapters for dishes too.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 <tel:%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
574-220-7826 <tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:


My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any
Remec heads, even at MSRP.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com>
wrote:

They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I
just sent an Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks
ago. They said they couldn't repair it, but offered me the
option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But yes, almost
everyone is gone from Trango. The person I was initially
working with on the repair was gone from Trango by the time
I actually sent the radio in.

On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:

On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is
pretty much out of business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA
onlylikely for a limited time.  Just tried to get
radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nah. Just funnin ya

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

No way
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I
QUIT - This should be on the Trango List
...someone say Lents ending?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I remember that and made some comment later
about the animal farm attitude or nature of
what had happened... Chuck ran with it and
AFMUG was born. Something like that...too many
Tecates since then but it's my reality and you
all just live in it .. thinking of giving up
Lent for Lent tomorrow...

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

is this the one?
a few messages later i see messages like
this -
*To:* CBB - Jay Fuller
*Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
*Subject:* Part-15 list
Are you having problems posting to the
list?  I'm getting bounce messages when
I try, and it even bounced when I tried to
email bullit directly.

Here is th

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Dave
If you goto an S you limit yourself to a single core performance but if 
you ever want to push a Gig in one direction I would say
go C to give you that option even though you may not do it right away it 
will be there to turn up instead of going back for a redo



On 02/14/2018 01:20 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz 
ApexPlus. That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an 
adapter to move to IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?


On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a 
connectorized radio.

*From:* Jeremy
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should 
be on theTrango List
Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe 
get me some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I 
may as well go with a manufacturer that is actually in business, and 
can support their products.  I am just going to replace the link with 
a higher capacity product and move it elsewhere.  If I need a custom 
adapter I'll let you know, thanks!

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does
actually exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that
that is so.  I have some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)
But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything,
let me know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a
new dish/dish install.
*From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This
should be on theTrango List
I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move
to other platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has
Trango adapters for dishes too.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 <tel:%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
574-220-7826 <tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:


My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any
Remec heads, even at MSRP.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com>
wrote:

They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I
just sent an Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks
ago.  They said they couldn't repair it, but offered me the
option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But yes, almost
everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was initially
working with on the repair was gone from Trango by the time
I actually sent the radio in.

On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:

On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is
pretty much out of business? No sales force, no sales, RMA
onlylikely for a limited time.  Just tried to get
radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nah.  Just funnin ya

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

No way
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I
QUIT - This should be on the Trango List
...someone say Lents ending?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I remember that and made some comment later
about the animal farm attitude or nature of
what had happened... Chuck ran with it and
AFMUG was born. Something like that...too many
Tecates since then but it's my reality and you
all just live in it .. thinking of giving up
Lent for Lent tomorrow...

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

is this the one?
a few messages later i see messages like
this -
*To:* CBB - Jay Fuller
*Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
*Subject:* Part-15 list
Are you having problems posting to the
list?  I'm getting bounce messages when
I try, and it even bounced when I tried to
ema

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown
PTP820 is also Remec is it not?

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz ApexPlus. 
That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an adapter to move to 
IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?


On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a 
connectorized radio.  

  From: Jeremy 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

  Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get me 
some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as well go with 
a manufacturer that is actually in business, and can support their products.  I 
am just going to replace the link with a higher capacity product and move it 
elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you know, thanks!

  On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually 
exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have 
some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)

But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me 
know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish 
install.  

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other 
platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for 
dishes too.


Jeff Broadwick 
CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:


  My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec 
heads, even at MSRP.

  On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I just sent 
an Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks ago.  They said they couldn't 
repair it, but offered me the option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But yes, 
almost everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was initially working with 
on the repair was gone from Trango by the time I actually sent the radio in.  


On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:

  On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is pretty much 
out of business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA onlylikely for a limited 
time.  Just tried to get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.

  On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nah.  Just funnin ya


Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  No way

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should 
be on the Trango List

  ...someone say Lents ending?

  On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I remember that and made some comment later about the animal 
farm attitude or nature of what had happened... Chuck ran with it and AFMUG was 
born.  Something like that...too many Tecates since then but it's my reality 
and you all just live in it .. thinking of giving up Lent for Lent 
tomorrow...


Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


  is this the one?

  a few messages later i see messages like this - 

  To: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
  Subject: Part-15 list

  Are you having problems posting to the list?  I'm getting 
bounce messages when 
  I try, and it even bounced when I tried to email bullit 
directly.

  Here is the message:
  Invalid final delivery userid: motor...@part-15.org

  ---


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bullit 
  To: motor...@part-15.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 10:22 AM
  Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango 
List

  LOL, you really hate the list traffic compared to a forum. 
I'll commend you
  on

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread George Skorup
Possibly stupid question. Most of what we have deployed are 11GHz 
ApexPlus. That is a Remec circular/round interface. Is there an adapter 
to move to IP20/PTP820 S and/or C?


On 2/14/2018 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a 
connectorized radio.

*From:* Jeremy
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be 
on theTrango List
Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get 
me some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as 
well go with a manufacturer that is actually in business, and can 
support their products.  I am just going to replace the link with a 
higher capacity product and move it elsewhere.  If I need a custom 
adapter I'll let you know, thanks!

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does
actually exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that
that is so.  I have some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)
But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything,
let me know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a
new dish/dish install.
*From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This
should be on theTrango List
I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to
other platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango
adapters for dishes too.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 <tel:%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
574-220-7826 <tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:


My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any
Remec heads, even at MSRP.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com>
wrote:

They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I
just sent an Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks
ago. They said they couldn't repair it, but offered me the
option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But yes, almost
everyone is gone from Trango. The person I was initially
working with on the repair was gone from Trango by the time I
actually sent the radio in.

On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:

On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is
pretty much out of business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA
onlylikely for a limited time.  Just tried to get radios
for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nah.  Just funnin ya

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

No way
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I
QUIT - This should be on the Trango List
...someone say Lents ending?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I remember that and made some comment later
about the animal farm attitude or nature of what
had happened... Chuck ran with it and AFMUG was
born. Something like that...too many Tecates
since then but it's my reality and you all just
live in it .. thinking of giving up Lent for
Lent tomorrow...

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

is this the one?
a few messages later i see messages like this -
*To:* CBB - Jay Fuller
*Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
*Subject:* Part-15 list
Are you having problems posting to the
list?  I'm getting bounce messages when
I try, and it even bounced when I tried to
email bullit directly.

Here is the message:
Invalid final delivery userid:
motor...@part-15.org

---
- Original Message -
*From:* Bullit
*To:* motor...@part-15.o

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown
I can build N connector adapters for the antenna too if you choose a 
connectorized radio.  

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get me some 
Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as well go with a 
manufacturer that is actually in business, and can support their products.  I 
am just going to replace the link with a higher capacity product and move it 
elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you know, thanks!

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually 
exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have 
some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)

  But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me 
know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish 
install.  

  From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

  I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other 
platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for 
dishes too.


  Jeff Broadwick 
  CTIconnect

  312-205-2519 Office
  574-220-7826 Cell
  jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

  On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:


My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec 
heads, even at MSRP.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

  They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I just sent an 
Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks ago.  They said they couldn't 
repair it, but offered me the option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But yes, 
almost everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was initially working with 
on the repair was gone from Trango by the time I actually sent the radio in.  


  On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:

On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is pretty much out 
of business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA onlylikely for a limited time.  
Just tried to get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Nah.  Just funnin ya


  Jaime Solorza

  On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

No way

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should 
be on the Trango List

...someone say Lents ending?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

  I remember that and made some comment later about the animal farm 
attitude or nature of what had happened... Chuck ran with it and AFMUG was 
born.  Something like that...too many Tecates since then but it's my reality 
and you all just live in it .. thinking of giving up Lent for Lent 
tomorrow...


  Jaime Solorza

  On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


is this the one?

a few messages later i see messages like this - 

To: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
Subject: Part-15 list

Are you having problems posting to the list?  I'm getting 
bounce messages when 
I try, and it even bounced when I tried to email bullit 
directly.

Here is the message:
Invalid final delivery userid: motor...@part-15.org

---


- Original Message - 
From: Bullit 
To: motor...@part-15.org 
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango 
List

LOL, you really hate the list traffic compared to a forum. I'll 
commend you
on your steadfast devotion.

Michael

-Original Message-
From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org 
[mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On
Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:18 AM
To: motor...@part-15.org
Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango 
List

Maybe I'm not the only one, but when a thread like this starts 
up I just
read a couple of words to get the gist and then dump i

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Jeremy
Yeah, this particular link is 6GHz.  She said that she could maybe get me
some Wavelab heads, but if I am replacing all four radios I may as well go
with a manufacturer that is actually in business, and can support their
products.  I am just going to replace the link with a higher capacity
product and move it elsewhere.  If I need a custom adapter I'll let you
know, thanks!

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually
> exist, (even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have
> some done for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)
>
> But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me
> know.  I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish
> install.
>
> *From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .....Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on
> theTrango List
>
> I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other
> platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for
> dishes too.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> CTIconnect
> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>
> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec
> heads, even at MSRP.
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I just sent an
>> Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks ago.  They said they couldn't
>> repair it, but offered me the option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But
>> yes, almost everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was initially
>> working with on the repair was gone from Trango by the time I actually sent
>> the radio in.
>>
>> On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:
>>
>> On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is pretty much out of
>> business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA onlylikely for a limited
>> time.  Just tried to get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Nah.  Just funnin ya
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No way
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be
>>>> on the Trango List
>>>>
>>>> ...someone say Lents ending?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I remember that and made some comment later about the animal farm
>>>>> attitude or nature of what had happened... Chuck ran with it and AFMUG was
>>>>> born.  Something like that...too many Tecates since then but it's my
>>>>> reality and you all just live in it .. thinking of giving up Lent for Lent
>>>>> tomorrow...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is this the one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a few messages later i see messages like this -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* CBB - Jay Fuller
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Part-15 list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you having problems posting to the list?  I'm getting bounce
>>>>>> messages when
>>>>>> I try, and it even bounced when I tried to email bullit directly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the message:
>>>>>> Invalid final delivery userid: motor...@part-15.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> *From:* Bullit
>>>>>> *To:* motor...@part-15.org
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2008 10:22 AM
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the T

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown
U.. there is a strange AF11x to Remec adapter that does actually exist, 
(even though Gino is probably given up hope that that is so.  I have some done 
for Gino.  Just not shipped yet.)

But if you need a interspecies adapter from anything to anything, let me know.  
I can typically do one for less than the cost of a new dish/dish install.  

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on 
theTrango List

I expect that there will be a robust used market as people move to other 
platforms.  I know at least one manufacturer that has Trango adapters for 
dishes too.


Jeff Broadwick 
CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:


  My radios are Remecand Laurie says she can no longer get any Remec heads, 
even at MSRP.

  On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

They must still have a stockpile of equipment somewhere.  I just sent an 
Apex Plus radio in for repair a couple weeks ago.  They said they couldn't 
repair it, but offered me the option to buy a new one at full MSRP.  But yes, 
almost everyone is gone from Trango.  The person I was initially working with 
on the repair was gone from Trango by the time I actually sent the radio in.  


On 2/14/2018 9:45 AM, Jeremy wrote:

  On another note; Did everyone here know that Trango is pretty much out of 
business?  No sales force, no sales, RMA onlylikely for a limited time.  
Just tried to get radios for a 2+0 of our existing linkno dice.

  On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nah.  Just funnin ya


Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 6:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  No way

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:26 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be 
on the Trango List

  ...someone say Lents ending?

  On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I remember that and made some comment later about the animal farm 
attitude or nature of what had happened... Chuck ran with it and AFMUG was 
born.  Something like that...too many Tecates since then but it's my reality 
and you all just live in it .. thinking of giving up Lent for Lent 
tomorrow...


Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 3:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


  is this the one?

  a few messages later i see messages like this - 

  To: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
  Subject: Part-15 list

  Are you having problems posting to the list?  I'm getting bounce 
messages when 
  I try, and it even bounced when I tried to email bullit directly.

  Here is the message:
  Invalid final delivery userid: motor...@part-15.org

  ---


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bullit 
  To: motor...@part-15.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 10:22 AM
  Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List

  LOL, you really hate the list traffic compared to a forum. I'll 
commend you
  on your steadfast devotion.

  Michael

  -Original Message-
  From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org 
[mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On
  Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:18 AM
  To: motor...@part-15.org
  Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List

  Maybe I'm not the only one, but when a thread like this starts up 
I just
  read a couple of words to get the gist and then dump it.

  So you all do whatever it is you think is necessary, but the
  community/list will live on in whatever form (hopefully a forum 
mode
  next time, LOL!)



  -Original Message-
  From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org 
[mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On
  Behalf Of Bullit
  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:30 AM
  To: motor...@part-15.org
  Subject: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List

  Do you all want all the lists to be free?

  If so, I'll close up PART-15.ORG and you all can do whatever you 
want.

  I'm sick of all this B.S. If you don't want to support 
PART-15.ORG then
  don't and GO AWAY. Start your own damn lists somewhere else 
because

Re: [AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango List

2018-02-13 Thread chuck
Yeah, timing could not have been more perfectly bad for poor old Michael.  We 
really thought he quit, as in he pulled the plug.
So we fired up a list so we could hang out.  

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] .Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on theTrango 
List


is this the one?

a few messages later i see messages like this - 

To: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM
Subject: Part-15 list


Are you having problems posting to the list?  I'm getting bounce messages when 
I try, and it even bounced when I tried to email bullit directly.

Here is the message:
Invalid final delivery userid: motor...@part-15.org

---


- Original Message - 
From: Bullit 
To: motor...@part-15.org 
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List

LOL, you really hate the list traffic compared to a forum. I'll commend you
on your steadfast devotion.

Michael

-Original Message-
From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org [mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On
Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:18 AM
To: motor...@part-15.org
Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List

Maybe I'm not the only one, but when a thread like this starts up I just
read a couple of words to get the gist and then dump it.

So you all do whatever it is you think is necessary, but the
community/list will live on in whatever form (hopefully a forum mode
next time, LOL!)



-Original Message-
From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org [mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On
Behalf Of Bullit
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:30 AM
To: motor...@part-15.org
Subject: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List

Do you all want all the lists to be free?

If so, I'll close up PART-15.ORG and you all can do whatever you want.

I'm sick of all this B.S. If you don't want to support PART-15.ORG then
don't and GO AWAY. Start your own damn lists somewhere else because
PART-15.ORG will just fade away which appears to be what you guys want
and I
have no problem with that idea.

And you know what Chuck, if people like Charles Wu would ever pay his
bills/debts that he owes PART-15.ORG maybe he could get back on the
lists.
As far as the others go, the hell with them as far as I'm concerned.
They
don't want to support PART-15.ORG so why the hell should I let them in
for
free? B.S. I'm fed up folks.

Michael



-Original Message-
From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org [mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:16 AM
To: motor...@part-15.org
Subject: Re: [Motorola] This should be on the Trango List

Trango is still a free list.  No so moto.
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Handiboe" <mich...@horizonbroadband.net>
To: <motor...@part-15.org>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Motorola] This should be on the Trango List


> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>> I can think of more than 5 that are no longer here.  I have not heard

>> from any of these guys since the list went paid (I don't think):
> 
>> David Sovreen
>> Dan Peterman
> 
> I thought I saw these guys  ... Peterman just the other day (?) ... 
> maybe that was on the Mikrotik list.   I miss the rest of them.
> 
> Funny thing, though, in my Thunderbird (email client ...) all the
Trango 
> chat ended up in my Trango folder anyway!  :-P
> 
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