Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
I went through about a dozen SMs on 14.2.1 and 15.x where an upgrade key
appeared to work the first time, change QoS settings and reboot, but
they'd boot back up saying it was invalid and the QoS would be capped at
the previous license tier. Apply the key and QoS again, reboot and then
it was fine. Cambium couldn't reproduce it. But the last handful I've
done over the past few months have worked the first time. Maybe it was
just those radios. I have no freakin clue.
On 8/17/2017 11:34 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
So after getting the 450M upgraded, it now has the option to use
EITHER the SFP port or the copper port. Using fiber for payload and
coper for management doesn't seem to be an option, at least yet.
Bidi SFPs seem to work fine. My uncoded FS ones show up like:
SFP Part Details :
Fiberstore SFP-GE-BX, serial number N0707260011, date code 170727
The SFP port on the 450M is not set in the center of the hole but
rather sits closer to the antenna side so clearance is going to be an
issue with some SFPs. The kit has what appears to be a custom
machined extended metal gland which does a pretty good job of fixing
the design flaw with the SFP port.
With the license applied, the Board Model shows up like:
Board Model :
C050045A102A
P005208
P005208
Could be because I went to the license url a second time when I first
set it up and there was still no SFP option showing in the GUI.
Cost for the kit is ~$300 which included the SFP worth $10, the gland
worth $30 (only because they have to have them custom machined to get
around the design problem), and $260 license to use the port.
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Jon Langeler
<jon-ispli...@michwave.net <mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>> wrote:
How much is it?
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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*From: *"Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com
<mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:15:04 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied
it, but I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or
any way to tell it to use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid
and missing something?
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>>
wrote:
Thanks Mark,
Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the
glands that come with Siklu radios which are too big. I've
ordered the 450M kit and I'll see how it fits and test out
BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated DC-DC +48V bus at
the site at least for now unless someone else wants to test
them out for awhile on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish
everyone would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at
least on gear costing multiple Ks.
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh
<m...@amplex.net <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:
Carl,
I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and
for some reason I misread this as a discussion of 820’s
and not 450M.
The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to
fit in the 450m. I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at
the moment. We are supposed to be getting 4 in tomorrow
and I can try it and let you know if it fits.
We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC
supplies through a CMM5
And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I
have not tried a BiDi SFP yet.
Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the
head :-)
Mark
On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetwor
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
So after getting the 450M upgraded, it now has the option to use EITHER the SFP port or the copper port. Using fiber for payload and coper for management doesn't seem to be an option, at least yet. Bidi SFPs seem to work fine. My uncoded FS ones show up like: SFP Part Details : Fiberstore SFP-GE-BX, serial number N0707260011, date code 170727 The SFP port on the 450M is not set in the center of the hole but rather sits closer to the antenna side so clearance is going to be an issue with some SFPs. The kit has what appears to be a custom machined extended metal gland which does a pretty good job of fixing the design flaw with the SFP port. With the license applied, the Board Model shows up like: Board Model : C050045A102A P005208 P005208 Could be because I went to the license url a second time when I first set it up and there was still no SFP option showing in the GUI. Cost for the kit is ~$300 which included the SFP worth $10, the gland worth $30 (only because they have to have them custom machined to get around the design problem), and $260 license to use the port. On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote: > How much is it? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:15:04 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied it, but > I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell > it to use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid and missing something? > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks Mark, >> >> Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come >> with Siklu radios which are too big. I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll >> see how it fits and test out BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated >> DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to >> test them out for awhile on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish everyone >> would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing >> multiple Ks. >> >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: >> >>> Carl, >>> >>> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason >>> I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M. >>> >>> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the >>> 450m. I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment. We are supposed >>> to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits. >>> >>> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a >>> CMM5 >>> >>> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a >>> BiDi SFP yet. >>> >>> Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the head :-) >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Matt, >>> >>> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. >>> >>> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts? >>> >>> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? >>> >>> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and >>> SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In this day and age… >>>> &g
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
How much is it? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:15:04 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied it, but I > can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell it to > use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid and missing something? > >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> >> wrote: >> Thanks Mark, >> >> Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come >> with Siklu radios which are too big. I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll see >> how it fits and test out BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated DC-DC >> +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to test them >> out for awhile on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish everyone would just >> support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing multiple Ks. >> >> >>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: >> >>> Carl, >>> >>> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason I >>> misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M. >>> >>> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the 450m. >>> I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment. We are supposed to be >>> getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits. >>> >>> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a CMM5 >>> >>> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a >>> BiDi SFP yet. >>> >>> Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the head :-) >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Matt, >>> >>> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. >>> >>> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts? >>> >>> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? >>> >>> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP >>> and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. >>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> In this day and age… >>>> >>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett >>>> <af...@ics-il.net> >>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM >>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >>>> >>>> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> >>>> The Brothers WISP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>> >>>> President >>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >>>> >>>> Carl – >>>> >>>> >>>> 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA >>>> module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… >>>> >>>> 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The >>>> kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, >>>> and the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. >&
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:15:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied it, but I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell it to use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid and missing something? On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson < cpeter...@portnetworks.com > wrote: Thanks Mark, Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come with Siklu radios which are too big. I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll see how it fits and test out BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to test them out for awhile on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish everyone would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing multiple Ks. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net > wrote: Carl, I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M. The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the 450m. I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment. We are supposed to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits. We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a CMM5 And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a BiDi SFP yet. Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the head :-) Mark On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson < cpeter...@portnetworks.com > wrote: Matt, While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. 1) What are the supported POE pinouts? 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: In this day and age… From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 From: "Matt Mangriotis" < matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs Carl – 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. Matt From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room for the SFP and connector? -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Yeah check the release notes but I think 15.1 was the first version to support SFP. 15.1.1 is the latest -Sean On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:35 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: > "SFP kits (part numbers C65L008A and C65L009A) are required for > SFP port connectivity. SFP port is not supported in system release 15.0/ > 15.0.0.1." > > Perhaps also not in 15.0.1 > > I'll try new firmware. > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com > > wrote: > >> Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied it, but >> I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell >> it to use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid and missing something? >> >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Thanks Mark, >>> >>> Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come >>> with Siklu radios which are too big. I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll >>> see how it fits and test out BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated >>> DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to >>> test them out for awhile on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish everyone >>> would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing >>> multiple Ks. >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Carl, >>>> >>>> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some >>>> reason I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M. >>>> >>>> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the >>>> 450m. I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment. We are supposed >>>> to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits. >>>> >>>> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a >>>> CMM5 >>>> >>>> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried >>>> a BiDi SFP yet. >>>> >>>> Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the head :-) >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Matt, >>>> >>>> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. >>>> >>>> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts? >>>> >>>> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? >>>> >>>> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and >>>> SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In this day and age… >>>>> >>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett < >>>>> af...@ics-il.net> >>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM >>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >>>>> >>>>> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
"SFP kits (part numbers C65L008A and C65L009A) are required for SFP port connectivity. SFP port is not supported in system release 15.0/15.0.0.1 ." Perhaps also not in 15.0.1 I'll try new firmware. On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: > Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied it, but > I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell > it to use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid and missing something? > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks Mark, >> >> Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come >> with Siklu radios which are too big. I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll >> see how it fits and test out BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated >> DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to >> test them out for awhile on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish everyone >> would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing >> multiple Ks. >> >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: >> >>> Carl, >>> >>> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason >>> I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M. >>> >>> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the >>> 450m. I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment. We are supposed >>> to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits. >>> >>> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a >>> CMM5 >>> >>> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a >>> BiDi SFP yet. >>> >>> Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the head :-) >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Matt, >>> >>> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. >>> >>> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts? >>> >>> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? >>> >>> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and >>> SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In this day and age… >>>> >>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett < >>>> af...@ics-il.net> >>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM >>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >>>> >>>> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>>> President >>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >>>> >>>> Carl – >>>> >>>> >>>> 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering abou
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied it, but I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell it to use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid and missing something? On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: > Thanks Mark, > > Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come > with Siklu radios which are too big. I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll > see how it fits and test out BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated > DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to > test them out for awhile on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish everyone > would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing > multiple Ks. > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: > >> Carl, >> >> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason >> I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M. >> >> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the >> 450m. I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment. We are supposed >> to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits. >> >> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a >> CMM5 >> >> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a >> BiDi SFP yet. >> >> Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the head :-) >> >> Mark >> >> >> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> >> wrote: >> >> Matt, >> >> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. >> >> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts? >> >> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? >> >> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and >> SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. >> >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >> wrote: >> >>> In this day and age… >>> >>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett < >>> af...@ics-il.net> >>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM >>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >>> >>> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>> President >>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >>> >>> Carl – >>> >>> >>> 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for >>> BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… >>> >>> 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The >>> kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and >>> the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. >>> >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >>> >>> >>> 1) I
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Thanks Mark, Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come with Siklu radios which are too big. I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll see how it fits and test out BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to test them out for awhile on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish everyone would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing multiple Ks. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: > Carl, > > I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason I > misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M. > > The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the 450m. > I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment. We are supposed to be > getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits. > > We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a CMM5 > > And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a > BiDi SFP yet. > > Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the head :-) > > Mark > > > On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > wrote: > > Matt, > > While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. > > 1) What are the supported POE pinouts? > > 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? > > It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP > and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: > >> In this day and age… >> >> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett < >> af...@ics-il.net> >> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >> >> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> >> -- >> *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >> >> Carl – >> >> >> 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for >> BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… >> >> 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The >> kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and >> the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. >> >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs >> >> >> 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the >> SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any >> limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so >> we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have >> to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not >> worked? >> >> >> 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very >> little space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium >> gland in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special >> gland with room for the SFP and connector? >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > > > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Carl, I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M. The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the 450m. I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment. We are supposed to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits. We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a CMM5 And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a BiDi SFP yet. Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the head :-) Mark > On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: > > Matt, > > While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. > > 1) What are the supported POE pinouts? > > 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? > > It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP > and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com > <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: > In this day and age… > > From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of > Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com > <mailto:af@afmug.com>> > Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM > To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > > > From: "Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com > <mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > Carl – > > > 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA > module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… > > 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit > consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the > entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. > > > Matt > > <> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On > Behalf Of Carl Peterson > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > > 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP > port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as > to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run > clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. > Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? > > > 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little > space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in > whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room > for the SFP and connector? > > > > > > > > > -- > Carl Peterson > > PORT NETWORKS > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 >
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Matt, While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. 1) What are the supported POE pinouts? 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: > In this day and age… > > From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett < > af...@ics-il.net> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > > > *Gino A. Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > -- > *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > Carl – > > > > 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA > module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… > > 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The > kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and > the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. > > > > Matt > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > > > 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the > SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any > limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so > we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have > to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not > worked? > > > > 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little > space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland > in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with > room for the SFP and connector? > > > > > > > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
In this day and age… From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] From: "Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com<mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs Carl – 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room for the SFP and connector?
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
At least it's got SFP ports :P On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > Carl – > > > > 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA > module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… > > 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The > kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and > the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. > > > > Matt > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > > > 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the > SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any > limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so > we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have > to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not > worked? > > > > 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little > space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland > in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with > room for the SFP and connector? > > > > > > > -- Micah Miller Network/Server Administrator Network Business Systems, Inc. Phone: 309-944-8823
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs Carl – 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room for the SFP and connector?
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
We routinely run Bidi optics in the 820c’s with no issues. Our usual vendor is FlexOptics, which can be programmed to mimic pretty much any locked optic, but we just run a generic profile on them. They work fine though Cambium doesn’t provide any SFP diagnostics (as far as I know they don’t provide diagnostics with the branded optics either). N82L014 PTP 820 Glands_x5_Kit gets you 5 of these: The ID of the threaded end is big enough to clear the face of the SFP even though the SFP protrudes slightly from the radio. Mark > On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Matt Mangriotis > <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > > Further to 1) … I couldn’t find any information on BIDA. However, if you > mean BIDI Simplex, then we don’t currently support this, but have plans to > add this support (via software) in the near future. I don’t yet have a > release this support is targeted for, but it will be on the roadmap once we > do. > > Hope this helps. > > Matt > > > Carl – > > 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA > module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… > 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit > consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the > entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. > > Matt > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On > Behalf Of Carl Peterson > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP > port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as > to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run > clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. > Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? > > 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little > space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in > whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room > for the SFP and connector?
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Thanks Matt, yes, I meant BiDi. Assuming they aren't locked to Cambium SFPs, I'm not sure what would be different about it. Guess I could just try coding a Bidi SFP the same as the cambium SFP that comes with the kit and test it. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:39 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Are we totally stuck with Cambium only optics? > > *From:* Matt Mangriotis > *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:35 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > > *Further to 1) … I couldn’t find any information on BIDA. However, if you > mean BIDI Simplex, then we don’t currently support this, but have plans to > add this support (via software) in the near future. I don’t yet have a > release this support is targeted for, but it will be on the roadmap once we > do.* > > > > *Hope this helps.* > > > > *Matt* > > > > > > Carl – > > > > 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA > module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… > > 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The > kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and > the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. > > > > Matt > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs > > > > 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the > SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any > limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so > we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have > to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not > worked? > > > > 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little > space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland > in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with > room for the SFP and connector? > > > > > > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Are we totally stuck with Cambium only optics? From: Matt Mangriotis Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs Further to 1) … I couldn’t find any information on BIDA. However, if you mean BIDI Simplex, then we don’t currently support this, but have plans to add this support (via software) in the near future. I don’t yet have a release this support is targeted for, but it will be on the roadmap once we do. Hope this helps. Matt Carl – 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room for the SFP and connector?
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Further to 1) … I couldn’t find any information on BIDA. However, if you mean BIDI Simplex, then we don’t currently support this, but have plans to add this support (via software) in the near future. I don’t yet have a release this support is targeted for, but it will be on the roadmap once we do. Hope this helps. Matt Carl – 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room for the SFP and connector?
Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
Carl – 1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… 2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room for the SFP and connector?
[AFMUG] 450M SFPs
1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room for the SFP and connector?
