Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Mathew Howard]

Well, the passively cooled CCR1009 with already take 14-57VDC, so that's a
start.

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:58 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> Honestly, what I'd rather see is a DC-DC converter built into the CCR
> chassis. DC lugs/terminals in place of the AC input. 20-60VDC input. Input
> polarity agnostic (for +24, +48 or -48 sites). Obviously the output side
> would be regulated +24.
>
> Sure, that can all be done externally, but I can still dream, right?
>
>
> On 7/5/2016 7:49 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
>
> It would also be helpful if it worked with the other CCR models.  Then,
> all we need is a DC power supply option for the CCR1072.
>
> On 07/05/2016 09:11 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> If you have what you removed for me to measure etc, it would help if I was
> to do something custom that fits properly and does what folks need.
>
> *From:* Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 05, 2016 10:09 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
> cooling?
>
>
> We’ve gutted a few CCR1009’s and done exactly this.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [ <af-boun...@afmug.com>mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 3:04 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
> cooling?
>
>
>
> I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year
> where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to
> go at the larger sites.
>
> Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that
> would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my
> sites and extra for new ones.
>
> I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a
> few Rack mount series.
>
> All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the few
> we have with generators.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but Mikrotik
> is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in Africa.
> The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had
> terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
> Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs,
> which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy
> mikrotik".
>
> On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" < <dmilho...@wletc.com>
> dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>
> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!
>
> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...
>
> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for
> power
>
> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>
> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>
> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke < <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites, such
> as
> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
> sectors...
> >
> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
> >
> > <http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
> >
> >
> <http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf>
> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[George Skorup]

Honestly, what I'd rather see is a DC-DC converter built into the CCR 
chassis. DC lugs/terminals in place of the AC input. 20-60VDC input. 
Input polarity agnostic (for +24, +48 or -48 sites). Obviously the 
output side would be regulated +24.


Sure, that can all be done externally, but I can still dream, right?

On 7/5/2016 7:49 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
It would also be helpful if it worked with the other CCR models. Then, 
all we need is a DC power supply option for the CCR1072.


On 07/05/2016 09:11 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
If you have what you removed for me to measure etc, it would help if 
I was to do something custom that fits properly and does what folks 
need.

*From:* Chris Wright <mailto:ch...@velociter.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 05, 2016 10:09 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive 
cooling?


We’ve gutted a few CCR1009’s and done exactly this.

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
*Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 3:04 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive 
cooling?


I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each 
year where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik 
switches to go at the larger sites.


Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module 
that would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough 
for all my sites and extra for new ones.


I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only 
for a few Rack mount series.


All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes 
the few we have with generators.


On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but
Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing
nations in Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a
place never had terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort
to begin with.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of
WISPs, which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of
"people who deploy mikrotik".

On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
wrote:

WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

[I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...

How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC
connect for power

Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.

On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net
<mailto:can...@believewireless.net> wrote:

You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

The dual power supply version went in at a different place
last week.


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid
solar sites, such as
> a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a
few sectors...
>
> $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>
>
http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Bruce Robertson]

It would also be helpful if it worked with the other CCR models. Then, 
all we need is a DC power supply option for the CCR1072.


On 07/05/2016 09:11 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
If you have what you removed for me to measure etc, it would help if I 
was to do something custom that fits properly and does what folks need.

*From:* Chris Wright <mailto:ch...@velociter.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 05, 2016 10:09 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive 
cooling?


We’ve gutted a few CCR1009’s and done exactly this.

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
*Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 3:04 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive 
cooling?


I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year 
where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik 
switches to go at the larger sites.


Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module 
that would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough 
for all my sites and extra for new ones.


I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only 
for a few Rack mount series.


All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the 
few we have with generators.


On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but
Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing
nations in Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a
place never had terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to
begin with.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of
WISPs, which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of
"people who deploy mikrotik".

On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com
<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:

WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

[I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...

How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC
connect for power

Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.

On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net
<mailto:can...@believewireless.net> wrote:

You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

The dual power supply version went in at a different place
last week.


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar
sites, such as
> a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a
few sectors...
>
> $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>
>
http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Chris Wright]

I’ll see if I can get info on what the wizard used. Wish I had one lying around 
to show you what the finished version looks like, it’s pretty slick!

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 9:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

If you have what you removed for me to measure etc, it would help if I was to 
do something custom that fits properly and does what folks need.

From: Chris Wright<mailto:ch...@velociter.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 10:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

We’ve gutted a few CCR1009’s and done exactly this.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 3:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?


I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year where I 
have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to go at the 
larger sites.

Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that would 
replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my sites and 
extra for new ones.

I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a few 
Rack mount series.

All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the few we 
have with generators.



On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but Mikrotik is 
wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in Africa. The line 
between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had terrestrial/wireline 
infrastructure of any sort to begin with.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs, which is 
a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy mikrotik".
On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" 
<dmilho...@wletc.com<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:

WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

[I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...

How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for power

Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.



On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, 
can...@believewireless.net<mailto:can...@believewireless.net> wrote:
You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites, such as
> a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few sectors...
>
> $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>
> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Chuck McCown]

If you have what you removed for me to measure etc, it would help if I was to 
do something custom that fits properly and does what folks need.  

From: Chris Wright 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 10:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

We’ve gutted a few CCR1009’s and done exactly this. 

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 3:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

 

I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year where I 
have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to go at the 
larger sites.

Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that would 
replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my sites and 
extra for new ones.

I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a few 
Rack mount series.

All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the few we 
have with generators.

 

 

On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

  Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but Mikrotik is 
wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in Africa. The line 
between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had terrestrial/wireline 
infrastructure of any sort to begin with.

   

  On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs, which 
is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy mikrotik".

  On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:

  WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

  [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ... 

  How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for power

  Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.

   

   

  On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

 

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites, such 
as
> a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few sectors...
>
> $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>
> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>
>

 

   

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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Chris Wright]

We’ve gutted a few CCR1009’s and done exactly this.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 3:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?


I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year where I 
have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to go at the 
larger sites.

Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that would 
replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my sites and 
extra for new ones.

I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a few 
Rack mount series.

All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the few we 
have with generators.



On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but Mikrotik is 
wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in Africa. The line 
between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had terrestrial/wireline 
infrastructure of any sort to begin with.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs, which is 
a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy mikrotik".
On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" 
<dmilho...@wletc.com<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:

WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

[I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...

How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for power

Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.



On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, 
can...@believewireless.net<mailto:can...@believewireless.net> wrote:
You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites, such as
> a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few sectors...
>
> $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>
> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Justin Wilson]

Have had one on top of a grain leg for over a year now.  Replaced an x86 
maxxwave that was getting close to thermal issues.  Also allowed us to 
eliminate a media converter.  Works great.

Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

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> On Jun 30, 2016, at 10:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net 
>  wrote:
> 
> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds  > wrote:
> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
> 
> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke  > wrote:
> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites, such as
> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few sectors...
> >
> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
> >
> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC 
> > 
> >
> > http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf 
> > 
> >
> >
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Kade Sullivan]

You can easily do direct DC using a POE breakout plug.  I have little plugs
that plug into an ethernet port and give you + and - DC lugs

I just deployed one of these to a site feeding an Edgepoint 16 via fiber up
the tower.  Worked out incredibly well as I could power the mikrotik
directly off the load port on the charger along with sending DC up the
tower.

Seems to be working great so far

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:18 PM, David Milholen  wrote:

> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!
>
> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...
>
> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for
> power
>
> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.
>
>
>
> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>
> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>
>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke < 
>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>> such as
>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>> sectors...
>> >
>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>> >
>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>> >
>> >
>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Chuck McCown]

OK, now starting to understand it.  I will need one of them thar internal power 
supplies to measure up etc...

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 11:39 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

Most of the CCR's (with the exception of the passively cooled models, which 
just have a barrel connector on the back) have an internal 24v power supply - I 
think what people are wanting is a box tat will fit in place of the power 
supply and give them DC terminals where the AC plug currently is. 


On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  So the device is already DC powered and you need to have terminals rather 
than the barrel connectors.  Do I have a basic understanding?

  From: Joe Novak 
  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 10:29 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

  I'll try to snap some pictures on Tuesday when I'm back at the office. I 
really want some DC terminals on my cloud cores.

  On Jul 3, 2016 8:57 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

Still not totally sure what that photo of the PCB means.  

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

Most of the CCRs have 1 PSU, but two header power connectors, if you look 
at Faisal's links you can see what we mean.  It really would be a simple 
product to produce.  low input cost, probably could sell for $25/piece.  It 
should have screw terminals labeled with input voltage allowed and pos /neg.  
You could even put in some type of fused /surge protected solution if you 
wanted to get creative :) 


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  I have not really been following this thread.  Give me some reference 
links so I can understand what it  is you need.  

  From: Erich Kaiser 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:25 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive 
cooling?

  Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug 
hole it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck? 


  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower
  er...@northcentraltower.com
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291


  On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> 
wrote:

FYI... 

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422


http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en

:)



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




  From: "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive 
cooling?

  I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each 
year where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to 
go at the larger sites.

  Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module 
that would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all 
my sites and extra for new ones.

  I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only 
for a few Rack mount series.

  All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes 
the few we have with generators.





  On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but 
Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in 
Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had 
terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of 
WISPs, which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy 
mikrotik".

  On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> 
wrote:

WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

[I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ... 


How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC 
connect for power

  

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Mathew Howard]

Most of the CCR's (with the exception of the passively cooled models, which
just have a barrel connector on the back) have an internal 24v power supply
- I think what people are wanting is a box tat will fit in place of the
power supply and give them DC terminals where the AC plug currently is.

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> So the device is already DC powered and you need to have terminals rather
> than the barrel connectors.  Do I have a basic understanding?
>
> *From:* Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 03, 2016 10:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
> cooling?
>
>
> I'll try to snap some pictures on Tuesday when I'm back at the office. I
> really want some DC terminals on my cloud cores.
> On Jul 3, 2016 8:57 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Still not totally sure what that photo of the PCB means.
>>
>> *From:* Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:18 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
>> cooling?
>>
>> Most of the CCRs have 1 PSU, but two header power connectors, if you look
>> at Faisal's links you can see what we mean.  It really would be a simple
>> product to produce.  low input cost, probably could sell for $25/piece.  It
>> should have screw terminals labeled with input voltage allowed and pos
>> /neg.  You could even put in some type of fused /surge protected solution
>> if you wanted to get creative :)
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have not really been following this thread.  Give me some reference
>>> links so I can understand what it  is you need.
>>>
>>> *From:* Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:25 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
>>> cooling?
>>>
>>> Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug
>>> hole it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck?
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FYI...
>>>>
>>>> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
>>>> cooling?
>>>>
>>>> I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year
>>>> where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to
>>>> go at the larger sites.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that
>>>> would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my
>>>> sites and extra for new ones.
>>>>
>>>> I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for
>>>> a few Rack mount series.
>>>>
>>>> All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the
>>>> few we have with generators.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not so much in the USA, where electri

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Chuck McCown]

So the device is already DC powered and you need to have terminals rather than 
the barrel connectors.  Do I have a basic understanding?

From: Joe Novak 
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

I'll try to snap some pictures on Tuesday when I'm back at the office. I really 
want some DC terminals on my cloud cores.

On Jul 3, 2016 8:57 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Still not totally sure what that photo of the PCB means.  

  From: Erich Kaiser 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:18 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

  Most of the CCRs have 1 PSU, but two header power connectors, if you look at 
Faisal's links you can see what we mean.  It really would be a simple product 
to produce.  low input cost, probably could sell for $25/piece.  It should have 
screw terminals labeled with input voltage allowed and pos /neg.  You could 
even put in some type of fused /surge protected solution if you wanted to get 
creative :) 


  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower
  er...@northcentraltower.com
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291


  On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

I have not really been following this thread.  Give me some reference links 
so I can understand what it  is you need.  

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug 
hole it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck? 


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> 
wrote:

  FYI... 

  http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422

  
http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en

  :)



  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive 
cooling?

I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year 
where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to go 
at the larger sites.

Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that 
would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my 
sites and extra for new ones.

I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for 
a few Rack mount series.

All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the 
few we have with generators.





On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

  Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but 
Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in 
Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had 
terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.


  On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:

Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of 
WISPs, which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy 
mikrotik".

On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> 
wrote:

  WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

  [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ... 


  How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC 
connect for power

  Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.





  On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

  The dual power supply version went in at a different place 
last week.


  On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid 
solar sites, such as
  > a hilltop used as an interme

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Joe Novak]

I'll try to snap some pictures on Tuesday when I'm back at the office. I
really want some DC terminals on my cloud cores.
On Jul 3, 2016 8:57 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Still not totally sure what that photo of the PCB means.
>
> *From:* Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
> cooling?
>
> Most of the CCRs have 1 PSU, but two header power connectors, if you look
> at Faisal's links you can see what we mean.  It really would be a simple
> product to produce.  low input cost, probably could sell for $25/piece.  It
> should have screw terminals labeled with input voltage allowed and pos
> /neg.  You could even put in some type of fused /surge protected solution
> if you wanted to get creative :)
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I have not really been following this thread.  Give me some reference
>> links so I can understand what it  is you need.
>>
>> *From:* Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:25 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
>> cooling?
>>
>> Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug
>> hole it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck?
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> FYI...
>>>
>>> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422
>>>
>>>
>>> http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
>>> cooling?
>>>
>>> I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year
>>> where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to
>>> go at the larger sites.
>>>
>>> Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that
>>> would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my
>>> sites and extra for new ones.
>>>
>>> I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for
>>> a few Rack mount series.
>>>
>>> All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the
>>> few we have with generators.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but
>>> Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in
>>> Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had
>>> terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs,
>>>> which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy
>>>> mikrotik".
>>>> On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!
>>>>>
>>>>> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...
>>>>>
>>>>> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect
>>>>> for power
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>>>>>> such as
>>>>>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>>>>>> sectors...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Chuck McCown]

Still not totally sure what that photo of the PCB means.  

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

Most of the CCRs have 1 PSU, but two header power connectors, if you look at 
Faisal's links you can see what we mean.  It really would be a simple product 
to produce.  low input cost, probably could sell for $25/piece.  It should have 
screw terminals labeled with input voltage allowed and pos /neg.  You could 
even put in some type of fused /surge protected solution if you wanted to get 
creative :) 


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  I have not really been following this thread.  Give me some reference links 
so I can understand what it  is you need.  

  From: Erich Kaiser 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:25 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

  Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug hole 
it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck? 


  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower
  er...@northcentraltower.com
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291


  On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> 
wrote:

FYI... 

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422


http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en

:)



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




  From: "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive 
cooling?

  I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year 
where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to go 
at the larger sites.

  Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that 
would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my 
sites and extra for new ones.

  I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a 
few Rack mount series.

  All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the 
few we have with generators.





  On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but 
Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in 
Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had 
terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:

  Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of 
WISPs, which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy 
mikrotik".

  On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:

WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

[I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ... 


How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect 
for power

Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.





On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

  You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

  On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

The dual power supply version went in at a different place last 
week.


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar 
sites, such as
> a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a 
few sectors...
>
> $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>
> 
http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>
>




-- 





  -- 

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Erich Kaiser]

Most of the CCRs have 1 PSU, but two header power connectors, if you look
at Faisal's links you can see what we mean.  It really would be a simple
product to produce.  low input cost, probably could sell for $25/piece.  It
should have screw terminals labeled with input voltage allowed and pos
/neg.  You could even put in some type of fused /surge protected solution
if you wanted to get creative :)


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I have not really been following this thread.  Give me some reference
> links so I can understand what it  is you need.
>
> *From:* Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
> cooling?
>
> Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug
> hole it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck?
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
>> FYI...
>>
>> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422
>>
>>
>> http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> ----------
>>
>> *From: *"David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
>> cooling?
>>
>> I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year
>> where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to
>> go at the larger sites.
>>
>> Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that
>> would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my
>> sites and extra for new ones.
>>
>> I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a
>> few Rack mount series.
>>
>> All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the
>> few we have with generators.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>
>> Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but
>> Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in
>> Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had
>> terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs,
>>> which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy
>>> mikrotik".
>>> On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!
>>>>
>>>> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...
>>>>
>>>> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for
>>>> power
>>>>
>>>> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>>>>> such as
>>>>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>>>>> sectors...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Chuck McCown]

I have not really been following this thread.  Give me some reference links so 
I can understand what it  is you need.  

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug hole 
it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck? 


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

  FYI... 

  http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422

  
http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en

  :)



  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year 
where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to go 
at the larger sites.

Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that 
would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my 
sites and extra for new ones.

I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a 
few Rack mount series.

All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the few 
we have with generators.





On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

  Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but 
Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in 
Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had 
terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.


  On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:

Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs, 
which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy 
mikrotik".

On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:

  WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

  [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ... 


  How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect 
for power

  Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.





  On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

  The dual power supply version went in at a different place last 
week.


  On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar 
sites, such as
  > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few 
sectors...
  >
  > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
  >
  > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
  >
  > 
http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
  >
  >




  -- 





-- 

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Mathew Howard]

The passively cooled CCR does already run directly off DC (it doesn't have
an internal AC power supply, like the others)... some kind of screw
terminals instead of the barrel connector would be nice, but it does work.

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Sounds like more of a Brian Vargyas / Maxxwave project.
>
> *From:* Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 6:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
> cooling?
>
> Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug
> hole it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck?
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
>> FYI...
>>
>> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422
>>
>>
>> http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> ----------
>>
>> *From: *"David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
>> cooling?
>>
>> I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year
>> where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to
>> go at the larger sites.
>>
>> Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that
>> would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my
>> sites and extra for new ones.
>>
>> I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a
>> few Rack mount series.
>>
>> All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the
>> few we have with generators.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>
>> Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but
>> Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in
>> Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had
>> terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs,
>>> which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy
>>> mikrotik".
>>> On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!
>>>>
>>>> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...
>>>>
>>>> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for
>>>> power
>>>>
>>>> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>>>>> such as
>>>>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>>>>> sectors...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Ken Hohhof]

Sounds like more of a Brian Vargyas / Maxxwave project.

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 6:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug hole 
it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck? 


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

  FYI... 

  http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422

  
http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en

  :)



  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year 
where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to go 
at the larger sites.

Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that 
would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my 
sites and extra for new ones.

I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a 
few Rack mount series.

All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the few 
we have with generators.





On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

  Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but 
Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in 
Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had 
terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.


  On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:

Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs, 
which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy 
mikrotik".

On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:

  WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

  [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ... 


  How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect 
for power

  Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.





  On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

  The dual power supply version went in at a different place last 
week.


  On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar 
sites, such as
  > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few 
sectors...
  >
  > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
  >
  > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
  >
  > 
http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
  >
  >




  -- 





-- 

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Erich Kaiser]

Would be nice if they made a module that would fit into existing AC Plug
hole it could have the primary and secondary terminals on it.  Chuck?


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> FYI...
>
> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422
>
>
> http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive
> cooling?
>
> I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year
> where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to
> go at the larger sites.
>
> Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that
> would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my
> sites and extra for new ones.
>
> I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a
> few Rack mount series.
>
> All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the few
> we have with generators.
>
>
>
> On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but Mikrotik
> is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in Africa.
> The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had
> terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs,
>> which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy
>> mikrotik".
>> On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!
>>>
>>> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...
>>>
>>> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for
>>> power
>>>
>>> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>>
>>> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>>>
>>>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>>>> such as
>>>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>>>> sectors...
>>>> >
>>>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>>>> >
>>>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>
>
> --
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Faisal Imtiaz]

FYI... 

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=69422 

http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en
 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:04:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

> I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year where I
> have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches to go at the
> larger sites.

> Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that would
> replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all my sites 
> and
> extra for new ones.

> I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for a few
> Rack mount series.

> All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the few we
> have with generators.

> On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

>> Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but Mikrotik is
>> wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in Africa. The 
>> line
>> between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had terrestrial/wireline
>> infrastructure of any sort to begin with.

>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 
>> wrote:

>>> Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs, 
>>> which is
>>> a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy mikrotik".
>>> On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote:

>>>> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

>>>> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...

>>>> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for 
>>>> power

>>>> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.

>>>> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

>>>>> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

>>>>>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.

>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites, 
>>>>>> > such as
>>>>>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few 
>>>>>> > sectors...

>>>>>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+

>>>>>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC

>>>>>> > http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf



>>>> --

> --

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[David Milholen]

I am not a large WIsp but with 20 sites and more being added each year 
where I have a Mikrotik at every site plus additional Mikrotik switches 
to go at the larger sites.


Maybe a small drop in the bucket but hey even if they had a module that 
would replace the power supply with terminals I would buy enough for all 
my sites and extra for new ones.


I am sure Someone (Chuck) could figure it out. Even if it were only for 
a few Rack mount series.


All of our sites have some sort of DC backup no UPS. This includes the 
few we have with generators.




On 6/30/2016 9:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but 
Mikrotik is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations 
in Africa. The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never 
had terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote:


Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of
WISPs, which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of
"people who deploy mikrotik".

On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen" > wrote:

WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

[I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...

How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC
connect for power

Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.



On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net
 wrote:

You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

The dual power supply version went in at a different
place last week.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke
> wrote:
> I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid
solar sites, such as
> a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also
has a few sectors...
>
> $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one
with SFP+
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>
>

http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>
>




-- 





--

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Eric Kuhnke]

Maybe not so much in the USA, where electricity is plentiful, but Mikrotik
is wildly popular in places like Nepal and developing nations in Africa.
The line between WISP and ISP is blurry when a place never had
terrestrial/wireline infrastructure of any sort to begin with.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs,
> which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy
> mikrotik".
> On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen"  wrote:
>
>> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!
>>
>> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...
>>
>> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for
>> power
>>
>> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>
>> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>>
>>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke < 
>>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>>> such as
>>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>>> sectors...
>>> >
>>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>>> >
>>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Josh Reynolds]

Not many. To be fair, "remote deployments" are a tiny subset of WISPs,
which is a tiny subset of ISPs, which is a subset of "people who deploy
mikrotik".
On Jun 30, 2016 9:18 PM, "David Milholen"  wrote:

> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!
>
> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...
>
> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for
> power
>
> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.
>
>
>
> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>
> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>
>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>> such as
>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>> sectors...
>> >
>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>> >
>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>> >
>> >
>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Eric Kuhnke]

It is nice that it will run on the 'unregulated' charging voltage (27.5VDC
something or 53.5VDC) of a 24VDC or 48VDC system without damage. Easy to
wire up as a direct load, if you want to get fancy put a $10 DIN rail mount
5A DC circuit breaker.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:18 PM, David Milholen  wrote:

> WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!
>
> [I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...
>
> How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for
> power
>
> Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.
>
>
>
> On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>
> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>
>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke < 
>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>> such as
>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>> sectors...
>> >
>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>> >
>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>> >
>> >
>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Josh Reynolds]

You'd have to use 802.3at, which is in most switches at this point. Many
cameras and 802.11ac APs require 802.3at now.

802.3af is around 15W, with 802.3at at 30W.
On Jun 30, 2016 9:16 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:

> If it draws 30W, isn't that double what a standard 802.3af switch can
> provide? It'd need to be 802.3at or a passive nonstandard 48VDC
> higher-amperage PoE source.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>>
>>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>>> such as
>>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>>> sectors...
>>> >
>>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>>> >
>>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[David Milholen]

WHOOPIE POE BIG DEAL!

[I want my MTV...] External Power lugs Come On Mikrotik ...

How many of us use these at remote sites and have direct DC connect for 
power


Makes for efficient and less heat when doing UPS deployments.



On 6/30/2016 9:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote:


I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke
> wrote:
> I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar
sites, such as
> a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
sectors...
>
> $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>
>
http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>
>




--

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Eric Kuhnke]

If it draws 30W, isn't that double what a standard 802.3af switch can
provide? It'd need to be 802.3at or a passive nonstandard 48VDC
higher-amperage PoE source.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:08 PM, can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>>
>> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites,
>> such as
>> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
>> sectors...
>> >
>> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>> >
>> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>> >
>> >
>> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[can...@believewireless.net]

You can also power them off a standard PoE switch which is cool.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.
>
> The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
> > I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites, such
> as
> > a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few
> sectors...
> >
> > $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
> >
> > http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
> >
> > http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
> >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Josh Reynolds]

I actually just deployed 2 today as 1Gbps active demarcs.

The dual power supply version went in at a different place last week.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites, such as
> a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few sectors...
>
> $425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC
>
> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf
>
>

[AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

[Eric Kuhnke]

I could see this being quite useful for small off-grid solar sites, such as
a hilltop used as an intermediate PTP relay that also has a few sectors...

$425 for the version without SFP+, $495 for the one with SFP+

http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC

http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/CCR1009-8G-1S-1SplusPC-151223131816.pdf