Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-05 Thread Paul McCall
We have been using Smartsheet.  Very powerful, flexible and cheap.  Like Excel 
on a "Serena Williams" dosage of Steroids

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

I don't know if this has already been suggested but I really like the One Page 
Project Management excel sheet...  There are lots of resources relating to 
using this resource well:

https://oppmi.com/


Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com<mailto:yourt...@gmail.com>
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com<mailto:supp...@joshaven.com>



On Aug 5, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Randy Cosby 
mailto:dco...@infowest.com>> wrote:

We also use Asana.  It's pretty nice and quite flexible.  Haven't compared many 
other tools though.


On 8/4/2015 10:01 AM, brianbek1...@gmail.com<mailto:brianbek1...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

We've been trying out Asana + Instagantt. Working fairly well so far,  the iOS 
/ Android clients are pretty handy for the techs in the field.



Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Paul Stewart 
mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote:

MS Project is great for large scale stuff .. not cheap software...

For simpler, less powerful approach I really like Basecamp

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
happy with?






Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-05 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
I don’t know if this has already been suggested but I really like the One Page 
Project Management excel sheet…  There are lots of resources relating to using 
this resource well:

https://oppmi.com/ <https://oppmi.com/>


Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On Aug 5, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
> 
> We also use Asana.  It's pretty nice and quite flexible.  Haven't compared 
> many other tools though.
> 
> 
> On 8/4/2015 10:01 AM, brianbek1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> We've been trying out Asana + Instagantt. Working fairly well so far,  the 
>> iOS / Android clients are pretty handy for the techs in the field.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
>>> 
>>> MS Project is great for large scale stuff .. not cheap software...
>>> 
>>> For simpler, less powerful approach I really like Basecamp
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:11 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
>>> 
>>> I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
>>> moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
>>> happy with?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 



Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-05 Thread Randy Cosby
We also use Asana.  It's pretty nice and quite flexible.  Haven't 
compared many other tools though.



On 8/4/2015 10:01 AM, brianbek1...@gmail.com wrote:

We've been trying out Asana + Instagantt. Working fairly well so far,  the iOS 
/ Android clients are pretty handy for the techs in the field.



Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

MS Project is great for large scale stuff .. not cheap software...

For simpler, less powerful approach I really like Basecamp

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
happy with?







Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Adam Moffett
Have you tried interrogating Patrick Leary yet?  He's no fun at all.  
Most vendors squirm when you corner themPatrick turns into a wolverine.



On 8/4/2015 2:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


I am pretty well known for my excellent questions. you should come 
visit Animal Farm and see me interrogate ubiquiti or cambium


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Simon Westlake" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
Date: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 1:04 PM

That is an excellent question.

On 8/4/2015 12:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
so...simonwhen are we going to get to find out what your new day 
job is?


- Original Message -
*From:* Simon Westlake <mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com>
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:33 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

A good transition from Excel sheets to something else is Trello.
It's
free, lets you set deadlines, has a calendar, can separate tasks by
person, etc. I use it a lot. It seems perhaps overly simplistic
at first
glance, but if your needs fit into a spreadsheet, it will give you
everything you gain from that plus a lot more.

On 8/4/2015 10:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
> Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but
structure the sheet such that it would easily convert to a
relational database table(s). The problem with most project
management programs is that they are designed for really large
projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks using
the package. It still requires a lot of setup and customization
for your particular project. If you are proficient in excel you
can get it done quicker there.
>
> The real reason one needs project management software is to
keep track of multiple tasks, but just as importantly the
forecasting of those tasks completions. I used to be a project
troubleshooter for a tower company, the typical reason for
projects falling behind and getting out of control was the lack
of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine those
dates on a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and
contractors and helps them manage their priorities and workload.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
    > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
>
> I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic
here at the moment.  Is there a project management package that
anybody here is really happy with?
>
>
>







Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Simon Westlake

OK, I will!

On 8/4/2015 1:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


I am pretty well known for my excellent questions. you should come 
visit Animal Farm and see me interrogate ubiquiti or cambium


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Simon Westlake" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
Date: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 1:04 PM

That is an excellent question.

On 8/4/2015 12:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
so...simonwhen are we going to get to find out what your new day 
job is?


- Original Message -
*From:* Simon Westlake <mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com>
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:33 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

A good transition from Excel sheets to something else is Trello.
It's
free, lets you set deadlines, has a calendar, can separate tasks by
person, etc. I use it a lot. It seems perhaps overly simplistic
at first
glance, but if your needs fit into a spreadsheet, it will give you
everything you gain from that plus a lot more.

On 8/4/2015 10:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
> Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but
structure the sheet such that it would easily convert to a
relational database table(s). The problem with most project
management programs is that they are designed for really large
projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks using
the package. It still requires a lot of setup and customization
for your particular project. If you are proficient in excel you
can get it done quicker there.
>
> The real reason one needs project management software is to
keep track of multiple tasks, but just as importantly the
forecasting of those tasks completions. I used to be a project
troubleshooter for a tower company, the typical reason for
projects falling behind and getting out of control was the lack
of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine those
dates on a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and
contractors and helps them manage their priorities and workload.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
>
> I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic
here at the moment.  Is there a project management package that
anybody here is really happy with?
>
>
>







Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I am pretty well known for my excellent questions. you should come visit 
Animal Farm and see me interrogate ubiquiti or cambium

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Simon Westlake" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
Date: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 1:04 PM

That is an excellent question.



On 8/4/2015 12:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
wrote:







 

so...simonwhen are we going to get to
find out what your new day job is?




- Original Message - 

From: Simon
Westlake 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Tuesday, August 04,
2015 12:33 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
Project Management Software





A good transition from Excel sheets to something else is Trello.
It's 

free, lets you set deadlines, has a calendar, can separate tasks
by 

person, etc. I use it a lot. It seems perhaps overly simplistic
at first 

glance, but if your needs fit into a spreadsheet, it will give
you 

everything you gain from that plus a lot more.



On 8/4/2015 10:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:

> Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project
but structure the sheet such that it would easily convert to a
relational database table(s). The problem with most project
management programs is that they are designed for really large
projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks
using the package. It still requires a lot of setup and
customization for your particular project. If you are proficient
in excel you can get it done quicker there.

>

> The real reason one needs project management software is to
keep track of multiple tasks, but just as importantly the
forecasting of those tasks completions. I used to be a project
troubleshooter for a tower company, the typical reason for
projects falling behind and getting out of control was the lack
of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine those
dates on a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and
contractors and helps them manage their priorities and workload.

>

>

>

> Thank You,

> Brian Webster

> www.wirelessmapping.com

> www.Broadband-Mapping.com

>

>

> -Original Message-

> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam
Moffett

> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM

> To: af@afmug.com

> Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

>

> I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot
topic here at the moment.  Is there a project management package
that anybody here is really happy with?

>

>

>

Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Simon Westlake

That is an excellent question.

On 8/4/2015 12:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
so...simonwhen are we going to get to find out what your new day 
job is?


- Original Message -
*From:* Simon Westlake <mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com>
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:33 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

A good transition from Excel sheets to something else is Trello. It's
free, lets you set deadlines, has a calendar, can separate tasks by
person, etc. I use it a lot. It seems perhaps overly simplistic at
first
glance, but if your needs fit into a spreadsheet, it will give you
everything you gain from that plus a lot more.

On 8/4/2015 10:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
> Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but
structure the sheet such that it would easily convert to a
relational database table(s). The problem with most project
management programs is that they are designed for really large
projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks using
the package. It still requires a lot of setup and customization
for your particular project. If you are proficient in excel you
can get it done quicker there.
>
> The real reason one needs project management software is to keep
track of multiple tasks, but just as importantly the forecasting
of those tasks completions. I used to be a project troubleshooter
for a tower company, the typical reason for projects falling
behind and getting out of control was the lack of task completion
forecast dates and a failure to examine those dates on a daily
basis. These dates set goals for employees and contractors and
helps them manage their priorities and workload.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
    > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
>
> I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic
here at the moment.  Is there a project management package that
anybody here is really happy with?
>
>
>





Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Platypus.

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software


so...simonwhen are we going to get to find out what your new day job is?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon Westlake 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

  A good transition from Excel sheets to something else is Trello. It's 
  free, lets you set deadlines, has a calendar, can separate tasks by 
  person, etc. I use it a lot. It seems perhaps overly simplistic at first 
  glance, but if your needs fit into a spreadsheet, it will give you 
  everything you gain from that plus a lot more.

  On 8/4/2015 10:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
  > Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but structure 
the sheet such that it would easily convert to a relational database table(s). 
The problem with most project management programs is that they are designed for 
really large projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks using 
the package. It still requires a lot of setup and customization for your 
particular project. If you are proficient in excel you can get it done quicker 
there.
  >
  > The real reason one needs project management software is to keep track of 
multiple tasks, but just as importantly the forecasting of those tasks 
completions. I used to be a project troubleshooter for a tower company, the 
typical reason for projects falling behind and getting out of control was the 
lack of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine those dates on 
a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and contractors and helps 
them manage their priorities and workload.
  >
  >
  >
  > Thank You,
  > Brian Webster
  > www.wirelessmapping.com
  > www.Broadband-Mapping.com
  >
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
  > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
  > To: af@afmug.com
  > Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
  >
  > I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
happy with?
  >
  >
  >


Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

so...simonwhen are we going to get to find out what your new day job is?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon Westlake 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software


  A good transition from Excel sheets to something else is Trello. It's 
  free, lets you set deadlines, has a calendar, can separate tasks by 
  person, etc. I use it a lot. It seems perhaps overly simplistic at first 
  glance, but if your needs fit into a spreadsheet, it will give you 
  everything you gain from that plus a lot more.

  On 8/4/2015 10:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
  > Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but structure 
the sheet such that it would easily convert to a relational database table(s). 
The problem with most project management programs is that they are designed for 
really large projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks using 
the package. It still requires a lot of setup and customization for your 
particular project. If you are proficient in excel you can get it done quicker 
there.
  >
  > The real reason one needs project management software is to keep track of 
multiple tasks, but just as importantly the forecasting of those tasks 
completions. I used to be a project troubleshooter for a tower company, the 
typical reason for projects falling behind and getting out of control was the 
lack of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine those dates on 
a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and contractors and helps 
them manage their priorities and workload.
  >
  >
  >
  > Thank You,
  > Brian Webster
  > www.wirelessmapping.com
  > www.Broadband-Mapping.com
  >
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
  > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
  > To: af@afmug.com
  > Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
  >
  > I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
happy with?
  >
  >
  >


Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Simon Westlake
A good transition from Excel sheets to something else is Trello. It's 
free, lets you set deadlines, has a calendar, can separate tasks by 
person, etc. I use it a lot. It seems perhaps overly simplistic at first 
glance, but if your needs fit into a spreadsheet, it will give you 
everything you gain from that plus a lot more.


On 8/4/2015 10:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:

Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but structure the 
sheet such that it would easily convert to a relational database table(s). The 
problem with most project management programs is that they are designed for 
really large projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks using 
the package. It still requires a lot of setup and customization for your 
particular project. If you are proficient in excel you can get it done quicker 
there.

The real reason one needs project management software is to keep track of 
multiple tasks, but just as importantly the forecasting of those tasks 
completions. I used to be a project troubleshooter for a tower company, the 
typical reason for projects falling behind and getting out of control was the 
lack of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine those dates on 
a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and contractors and helps 
them manage their priorities and workload.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
happy with?







Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown

http://www.ganttproject.biz/

-Original Message- 
From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 10:41 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software 


If you like Gantt charts, this one is free:GanttProject

-Original Message- 
From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:10 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software 

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is 
really happy with?





Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown

If you like Gantt charts, this one is free:GanttProject

-Original Message- 
From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:10 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software 

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is 
really happy with?





Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Paul Stewart
That's a great analogy!  I'll have to remember that one when meeting with my 
staff ;)

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 12:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

I was always a great believer that everyone is a project manager.  If they are 
just reporting the slips to the overall project manager, the project is doomed 
to fail.  As Brian says, all employees and contractors should be managing their 
priorities and workload to meet their commitments if at all possible, and to 
yell for help before the slip is a done deal.  Don't you love the guy who 
reports a 1 month slip the day before his deadline?

I remember some project management instructor who used the example of rowing a 
boat across a swiftly moving river to reach a dock on the other side. 
Issuing updates on where you expect to land on the other side is not project 
management.  Actually landing at the dock is project management.


-Original Message-
From: Paul Stewart
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

The only challenge I've seen with spreadsheets is sharing the spreadsheet 
amongst the people involved with the project.  I've seen people though use 
Google Docs for stuff like that .. also OneNote is great for real time sharing 
too.

The overall challenge with project management I find is getting people to 
actually do updates and keep things current ... takes time and discipline ;)

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

Interesting thought.

On 8/4/2015 11:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
> Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but 
> structure the sheet such that it would easily convert to a relational 
> database table(s). The problem with most project management programs 
> is that they are designed for really large projects with many people 
> and typically PMP certified folks using the package. It still requires 
> a lot of setup and customization for your particular project. If you 
> are proficient in excel you can get it done quicker there.
>
> The real reason one needs project management software is to keep track 
> of multiple tasks, but just as importantly the forecasting of those 
> tasks completions. I used to be a project troubleshooter for a tower 
> company, the typical reason for projects falling behind and getting 
> out of control was the lack of task completion forecast dates and a 
> failure to examine those dates on a daily basis. These dates set goals 
> for employees and contractors and helps them manage their priorities and 
> workload.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
>
> I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at 
> the moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here 
> is really happy with?
>
>
>






Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
I was always a great believer that everyone is a project manager.  If they 
are just reporting the slips to the overall project manager, the project is 
doomed to fail.  As Brian says, all employees and contractors should be 
managing their priorities and workload to meet their commitments if at all 
possible, and to yell for help before the slip is a done deal.  Don't you 
love the guy who reports a 1 month slip the day before his deadline?


I remember some project management instructor who used the example of rowing 
a boat across a swiftly moving river to reach a dock on the other side. 
Issuing updates on where you expect to land on the other side is not project 
management.  Actually landing at the dock is project management.



-Original Message- 
From: Paul Stewart

Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

The only challenge I've seen with spreadsheets is sharing the spreadsheet 
amongst the people involved with the project.  I've seen people though use 
Google Docs for stuff like that .. also OneNote is great for real time 
sharing too.


The overall challenge with project management I find is getting people to 
actually do updates and keep things current ... takes time and discipline ;)


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

Interesting thought.

On 8/4/2015 11:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but structure 
the sheet such that it would easily convert to a relational database 
table(s). The problem with most project management programs is that they 
are designed for really large projects with many people and typically PMP 
certified folks using the package. It still requires a lot of setup and 
customization for your particular project. If you are proficient in excel 
you can get it done quicker there.


The real reason one needs project management software is to keep track of 
multiple tasks, but just as importantly the forecasting of those tasks 
completions. I used to be a project troubleshooter for a tower company, 
the typical reason for projects falling behind and getting out of control 
was the lack of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine 
those dates on a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and 
contractors and helps them manage their priorities and workload.




Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
happy with?










Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Mike Hammett
We use Basecamp. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Adam Moffett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 10:10:56 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software 

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment. Is there a project management package that anybody here is 
really happy with? 





Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Paul Stewart
The only challenge I've seen with spreadsheets is sharing the spreadsheet 
amongst the people involved with the project.  I've seen people though use 
Google Docs for stuff like that .. also OneNote is great for real time sharing 
too.

The overall challenge with project management I find is getting people to 
actually do updates and keep things current ... takes time and discipline ;)

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

Interesting thought.

On 8/4/2015 11:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
> Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but structure the 
> sheet such that it would easily convert to a relational database table(s). 
> The problem with most project management programs is that they are designed 
> for really large projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks 
> using the package. It still requires a lot of setup and customization for 
> your particular project. If you are proficient in excel you can get it done 
> quicker there.
>
> The real reason one needs project management software is to keep track of 
> multiple tasks, but just as importantly the forecasting of those tasks 
> completions. I used to be a project troubleshooter for a tower company, the 
> typical reason for projects falling behind and getting out of control was the 
> lack of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine those dates 
> on a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and contractors and 
> helps them manage their priorities and workload.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
>
> I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
> moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
> happy with?
>
>
>




Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread brianbek1981
We've been trying out Asana + Instagantt. Working fairly well so far,  the iOS 
/ Android clients are pretty handy for the techs in the field.



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> On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
> 
> MS Project is great for large scale stuff .. not cheap software...
> 
> For simpler, less powerful approach I really like Basecamp
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software
> 
> I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
> moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
> happy with?
> 
> 
> 


Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Adam Moffett

Interesting thought.

On 8/4/2015 11:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:

Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but structure the 
sheet such that it would easily convert to a relational database table(s). The 
problem with most project management programs is that they are designed for 
really large projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks using 
the package. It still requires a lot of setup and customization for your 
particular project. If you are proficient in excel you can get it done quicker 
there.

The real reason one needs project management software is to keep track of 
multiple tasks, but just as importantly the forecasting of those tasks 
completions. I used to be a project troubleshooter for a tower company, the 
typical reason for projects falling behind and getting out of control was the 
lack of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine those dates on 
a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and contractors and helps 
them manage their priorities and workload.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
happy with?







Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Brian Webster
Start with a good excel spreadsheet if it a smaller project but structure the 
sheet such that it would easily convert to a relational database table(s). The 
problem with most project management programs is that they are designed for 
really large projects with many people and typically PMP certified folks using 
the package. It still requires a lot of setup and customization for your 
particular project. If you are proficient in excel you can get it done quicker 
there.

The real reason one needs project management software is to keep track of 
multiple tasks, but just as importantly the forecasting of those tasks 
completions. I used to be a project troubleshooter for a tower company, the 
typical reason for projects falling behind and getting out of control was the 
lack of task completion forecast dates and a failure to examine those dates on 
a daily basis. These dates set goals for employees and contractors and helps 
them manage their priorities and workload.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
happy with?





Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Paul Stewart
MS Project is great for large scale stuff .. not cheap software...

For simpler, less powerful approach I really like Basecamp

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really 
happy with?





Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Ty Featherling
I would love an answer to this too. Microsoft Project looks like it does it
all but it isn't cheap.

-Ty

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the
> moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is really
> happy with?
>
>
>


[AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-04 Thread Adam Moffett
I know this has been covered before.but it's a hot topic here at the 
moment.  Is there a project management package that anybody here is 
really happy with?