Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
So would a Juniper SRX240 be comparable to a Cisco 7301 performance-wise? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: Those guys will combine shipping, if you buy 2, 3 or 4 units it costs a lot less than $80 per unit. On 2/20/15 8:21 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/191300871212?lpid=82chn=ps :: Josh Reynolds, CIO, SPITwSPOTS - Pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile device On Feb 20, 2015 10:57 AM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: ebay, yeah. It can't hurt to google used cisco routers and send an email RFQ to a bunch of random dealers, only takes a few minutes. Whatever you do don't give them your phone number! On 2/20/15 7:44 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Do you have a source you would recommend for the 7301? Ebay or otherwise? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: Sure, depends on your climate and install location. If you want something smaller and not too expensive that will handle up to gigE buy a 7301, it's the same routing engine as either a NPE-G100 (in a 7304) or a NPE-G1 in a 7206VXR. 1U rackmount, three gigE, you can add a single PA for an additional two 100BaseTX or a single PA-GE for a 4th gigE. I've been buying 7301 for right around $250 a piece for edge stuff. The 7201 is the same thing as an NPE-G2 and still too much . On 2/20/15 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and have a space heater too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com e...@kuhnke-international.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, February 20, 2015 1:17:04 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
I see a lot of these in the DC version and they appear to be cheaper than AC. I could go that route, but given my current setup AC would be easier. Also, I see this in the throughput specs: Process - PPS:79,000 Mbps:40.448 Fast/CEF PPS:1,018,000 Mbps:521.22 Are these just very conservative or does this look about right? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/191300871212?lpid=82chn=ps :: Josh Reynolds, CIO, SPITwSPOTS - Pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile device On Feb 20, 2015 10:57 AM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: ebay, yeah. It can't hurt to google used cisco routers and send an email RFQ to a bunch of random dealers, only takes a few minutes. Whatever you do don't give them your phone number! On 2/20/15 7:44 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Do you have a source you would recommend for the 7301? Ebay or otherwise? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: Sure, depends on your climate and install location. If you want something smaller and not too expensive that will handle up to gigE buy a 7301, it's the same routing engine as either a NPE-G100 (in a 7304) or a NPE-G1 in a 7206VXR. 1U rackmount, three gigE, you can add a single PA for an additional two 100BaseTX or a single PA-GE for a 4th gigE. I've been buying 7301 for right around $250 a piece for edge stuff. The 7201 is the same thing as an NPE-G2 and still too much . On 2/20/15 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and have a space heater too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com e...@kuhnke-international.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, February 20, 2015 1:17:04 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
and have a space heater too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:17:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: blockquote This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: blockquote L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: blockquote I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
a few hundred megabit? a 7304 with dual AC power supplies, NPE-G100 and a couple of extra gigE interfaces will total you under $300 if you look in the right places. On 2/20/15 6:35 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
Do you have a source you would recommend for the 7301? Ebay or otherwise? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: Sure, depends on your climate and install location. If you want something smaller and not too expensive that will handle up to gigE buy a 7301, it's the same routing engine as either a NPE-G100 (in a 7304) or a NPE-G1 in a 7206VXR. 1U rackmount, three gigE, you can add a single PA for an additional two 100BaseTX or a single PA-GE for a 4th gigE. I've been buying 7301 for right around $250 a piece for edge stuff. The 7201 is the same thing as an NPE-G2 and still too much . On 2/20/15 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and have a space heater too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com e...@kuhnke-international.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, February 20, 2015 1:17:04 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
ebay, yeah. It can't hurt to google "used cisco routers" and send an email RFQ to a bunch of random dealers, only takes a few minutes. Whatever you do don't give them your phone number! On 2/20/15 7:44 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Do you have a source you would recommend for the 7301? Ebay or otherwise? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: Sure, depends on your climate and install location. If you want something smaller and not too expensive that will handle up to gigE buy a 7301, it's the same routing engine as either a NPE-G100 (in a 7304) or a NPE-G1 in a 7206VXR. 1U rackmount, three gigE, you can add a single PA for an additional two 100BaseTX or a single PA-GE for a 4th gigE. I've been buying 7301 for right around $250 a piece for edge stuff. The 7201 is the same thing as an NPE-G2 and still too much . On 2/20/15 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and have a space heater too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Eric Kuhnke" e...@kuhnke-international.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:17:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
He asked for a replacement for a Cisco Nexus SWITCH. He didn't ask about a router that I saw. Maybe I am misunderstanding what he was looking for. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
Maybe my wording was confusing. The Cisco Nexus switch is at the OTHER end of the link. The CCR is at my end. I'm trying (unsuccessfully) to link up to it via dark fiber. We did some testing and the problem wound up having something to do with the Mikrotik. Therefore I'm looking for an alternative. -Jason On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: He asked for a replacement for a Cisco Nexus SWITCH. He didn't ask about a router that I saw. Maybe I am misunderstanding what he was looking for. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a thread to this effect a long time ago, but wanted to see if there are any new thoughts. I'm having some difficulty getting a Mikrotik CCR to link up correctly to a Cisco Nexus switch via SFP. Therefore, I'm looking to go with Cisco or Juniper on my end, but would probably be looking at something besides the brand new models. It does need to be able to handle GigE, however. Any recommendations? Thanks. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
he said "edge router" not "L3 capable switch"... the only sort of thing that resembles a switch and is a real edge router (enough RAM to take full tables, etc) is the ME3600X or similar, which is . On 2/20/15 8:03 PM, Jeremy wrote: He asked for a replacement for a Cisco Nexus SWITCH. He didn't ask about a router that I saw. Maybe I am misunderstanding what he was looking for. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: L3. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need L3 or just L2? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I started a
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper / Cisco GE Recommendations
If you have the space and power/heat budget for it, a 6503E with dual sup32 and a 16-port WS-X6516 GBIC blade can be built for under $1200-1400, giving you 32 ports of modular gigE... choose AC or DC power. The AC power 2700W power supplies and PEMs (power entry modules) are still somewhat expensive in the resale market. I have put 6503E on plywood backboards in condo MDFs using decent 4U rackmount brackets. On 2/20/15 8:07 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Maybe my wording was confusing. The Cisco Nexus switch is at the OTHER end of the link. The CCR is at my end. I'm trying (unsuccessfully) to link up to it via dark fiber. We did some testing and the problem wound up having something to do with the Mikrotik. Therefore I'm looking for an alternative. -Jason On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: He asked for a replacement for a Cisco Nexus SWITCH. He didn't ask about a router that I saw. Maybe I am misunderstanding what he was looking for. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: a 3560X or a 3750 is not really a router. it's a switch that wishes it were a router. for under $500 you can build a 6506E with dual sup32 that will run circles around it in real world routing performance and can do things like MPLS... or buy a 7606 or 7609 and equip similarly for under $800. On 2/20/15 6:58 PM, Jeremy wrote: 3560X? With the four-SFP module. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: This will be an edge router, I'm not looking to do any BGP at the moment, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have that option for the future. Ultimately, I'd like for it to be able to move around a gigabit, but a few hundred megabit would probably suffice for now if the price was right. Features needed are basic routing / simple firewall with possibly the ability of terminating VPN connections. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of feature set are you looking for? Are you using this for edge routing (eg eBGP) or just switching? What other features do you need? How much traffic are you looking to push? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com