Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
ims
>> >> >>>>>> and arent hiding behind a constitution they would sooner wipe
>> >> >>>>>> their
>> >> >>>>>> backsides with when its no longer a convenient shield
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> best thing in this so far, that rawlings blake broad in
>> >> >>>>>> baltimore
>> >> >>>>>> who
>> >> >>>>>> provided a space for the "protesters" to destroy was ousted,
>> >> >>>>>> hopefully she
>> >> >>>>>> moves to cali before they secede,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> regular liberals are neccessary, the offer balance to people
>> >> >>>>>> like
>> >> >>>>>> me,
>> >> >>>>>> i really should have clarified the ultra part in the beginning
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Josh Reynolds
>> >> >>>>>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> They are no different than the kids spray painting racist
>> >> >>>>>>> messages
>> >> >>>>>>> in
>> >> >>>>>>> schools, on monuments, assaulting Muslim women, or throwing
>> >> >>>>>>> human
>> >> >>>>>>> mannequins
>> >> >>>>>>> off of bridges right now with nooses around their necks.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> >> >>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and
>> >> >>>>>>>> harassing
>> >> >>>>>>>> people right now because the peaceful transition of power only
>> >> >>>>>>>> applied to
>> >> >>>>>>>> trump supporters. These people are less than, they are takers
>> >> >>>>>>>> that offer
>> >> >>>>>>>> nothing, they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they
>> >> >>>>>>>> demand
>> >> >>>>>>>> control
>> >> >>>>>>>> over others with no control over them as that would violate
>> >> >>>>>>>> their
>> >> >>>>>>>> rights. Im
>> >> >>>>>>>> not led by the media at all, im led by reality, they are
>> >> >>>>>>>> trashcans, there
>> >> >>>>>>>> are tons of them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off
>> >> >>>>>>>> into the
>> >> >>>>>>>> ocean, sad for the few good folks out there, ill weep without
>> >> >>>>>>>> tears for
>> >> >>>>>>>> their loss, but Ill get over it
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds
>> >> >>>>>>>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> The divide the politicians and media in this country have
>> >> >>>>>>>>> created
>> >> >>>>>>>>> is a huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and
>> >> >>>>>>>>> consider
>> >> >>>>>>>>> the other
>> >> >>>>>>>>> side "less than", then you are part of the problem.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage.
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had
>> >> >>>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
> >> >>>>>>> schools, on monuments, assaulting Muslim women, or throwing
> human
> >> >>>>>>> mannequins
> >> >>>>>>> off of bridges right now with nooses around their necks.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> >> >>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and harassing
> >> >>>>>>>> people right now because the peaceful transition of power only
> >> >>>>>>>> applied to
> >> >>>>>>>> trump supporters. These people are less than, they are takers
> >> >>>>>>>> that offer
> >> >>>>>>>> nothing, they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they
> demand
> >> >>>>>>>> control
> >> >>>>>>>> over others with no control over them as that would violate
> their
> >> >>>>>>>> rights. Im
> >> >>>>>>>> not led by the media at all, im led by reality, they are
> >> >>>>>>>> trashcans, there
> >> >>>>>>>> are tons of them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off
> >> >>>>>>>> into the
> >> >>>>>>>> ocean, sad for the few good folks out there, ill weep without
> >> >>>>>>>> tears for
> >> >>>>>>>> their loss, but Ill get over it
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds
> >> >>>>>>>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> The divide the politicians and media in this country have
> >> >>>>>>>>> created
> >> >>>>>>>>> is a huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and
> consider
> >> >>>>>>>>> the other
> >> >>>>>>>>> side "less than", then you are part of the problem.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage.
> >> >>>>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had
> atrophied.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we
> >> >>>>>>>>> are
> >> >>>>>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and
> >> >>>>>>>>> starved while our handlers teach us that the problem is the
> dogs
> >> >>>>>>>>> in the
> >> >>>>>>>>> other pen.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on
> >> >>>>>>>>>> many.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Guns -  Conservative
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Unions - Conservative
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Environment – Middle of the road
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Corporal punishme

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, I can see it,
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/411023903461903796/

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 7:03 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

I don't believe you know what oligarch means without Google assist or such... 
Funny thing though,  my uncle said I looked Russian... Go figure


On Nov 10, 2016 6:54 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  lol, define compromise, that is a pretty questionable term when dealing with 
entities who roll on conflicting words, hence, the aforementioned rally cry

  On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

Throwing out the idea of "sides", the name-calling, the labeling.
Getting through the bullshit and evaluating each issue on it's own
merits and pitfalls. Realizing that we're all Americans, we just have
different viewpoints on each issue, and different experiences that
make us think that way.

"The Solution" in terms of bringing the country together, one step at
a time, one issue at a time. We'll never agree on everything, but we
can agree to disagree and compromise.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:42 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wasnt aware an off topic thread on a technical email list was, by 
design,
> a global component of "the solution". Now, are we talking about a 
solution,
> as in a mixture, yeah, id say this thread has a pretty varied mixture. Are
> we talking about a solution like in algebra, probably missing a requisite
> variable or two. The Final Solution, no, I dont think its that extreme, 
and
> it didnt work out all that well for the last guy who had one, id prefer to
> not be part of that anyway . I would have to say,
> value toward "the solution" is a pretty vague thing to nail down, so at 
this
> point I would say I cant answer that
>
>

> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:
>>
>> Don't tell me, but ask yourself the following..
>>
>> Was your email part of the solution, or part of continuing the vitrol?
>>
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2016 7:23 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Lol, the rally cry of the left: "STOP LABELING ME, YOU FASCIST,
>> PATRIARCHAL, OLIGARCHICAL, HATE FILLED BIGOT MOTHERFUCKERS"
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It has to.
>>>
>>> When we label, we often demonize. We are all (mostly on this list!)
>>> Americans.
>>>
>>> United we stand, divide we fall.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2016 6:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Venting Josh. It will pass.. .at least I hope it does..
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2016 5:10 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Its important we stop labeling Americans Jaime.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 6:07 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It was rigged... Ha.If Clinton had won your side would have 
claimed
>>>>> that and start getting your guns cleaned and ready..
>>>>> I want see how you Trumpesvites feel 6 months from now...the whole
>>>>> world is watching..  And our enemies with a drink and popcorn... And 
for you
>>>>> that said you would leave your wife or daughter alone with Trump... I
>>>>> honestly don't believe you unless your into that kind of thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:12 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, there are scumbags everywhere. Yes, there are fake "news 
stories"
>>>>>> everywhere to push agendas. It is very hard to sort through what's 
real and
>>>>>> what is fake, very hard. That is a huge problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you can't do is dismiss something because it doesn't meet up 
with
>>>>>> what is in your personal echo chamber. Look at everything and 
consider the
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
t;>>>>> what is fake, very hard. That is a huge problem.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What you can't do is dismiss something because it doesn't meet up
>> with
>> >>>>>> what is in your personal echo chamber. Look at everything and
>> consider the
>> >>>>>> possibility, and consider the ramifications of the act. Look at
>> who gets
>> >>>>>> hurt by it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Not doing your due diligence and picking a side is a threat to our
>> >>>>>> democracy and our country.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Keep in mind that in this election, the popular vote was split in
>> >>>>>> half.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:58 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> >>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> the bulk of those are them doing it themselves, like the college
>> tweet
>> >>>>>> threats that turned out the victim had sent herself from the
>> library... she
>> >>>>>> justified it by saying it was ok because it brought about a
>> conversation
>> >>>>>> there are three media reports today of women who had their hijabs
>> >>>>>> ripped off in walmarts and threats, but no surveillance
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> its ultraliberal trash
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> now the stains a week or two ago that put a noose around their own
>> >>>>>> team mates neck, real scumbags, but they arent pretending to be
>> the victims
>> >>>>>> and arent hiding behind a constitution they would sooner wipe their
>> >>>>>> backsides with when its no longer a convenient shield
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> best thing in this so far, that rawlings blake broad in baltimore
>> who
>> >>>>>> provided a space for the "protesters" to destroy was ousted,
>> hopefully she
>> >>>>>> moves to cali before they secede,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> regular liberals are neccessary, the offer balance to people like
>> me,
>> >>>>>> i really should have clarified the ultra part in the beginning
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> They are no different than the kids spray painting racist
>> messages in
>> >>>>>>> schools, on monuments, assaulting Muslim women, or throwing human
>> mannequins
>> >>>>>>> off of bridges right now with nooses around their necks.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> >>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and harassing
>> >>>>>>>> people right now because the peaceful transition of power only
>> applied to
>> >>>>>>>> trump supporters. These people are less than, they are takers
>> that offer
>> >>>>>>>> nothing, they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they demand
>> control
>> >>>>>>>> over others with no control over them as that would violate
>> their rights. Im
>> >>>>>>>> not led by the media at all, im led by reality, they are
>> trashcans, there
>> >>>>>>>> are tons of them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off
>> into the
>> >>>>>>>> ocean, sad for the few good folks out there, ill weep without
>> tears for
>> >>>>>>>> their loss, but Ill get over it
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds
>> >>>>>>>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
t;>>>>> everywhere to push agendas. It is very hard to sort through what's
>> >>>>>> real and
>> >>>>>> what is fake, very hard. That is a huge problem.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What you can't do is dismiss something because it doesn't meet up
>> >>>>>> with
>> >>>>>> what is in your personal echo chamber. Look at everything and
>> >>>>>> consider the
>> >>>>>> possibility, and consider the ramifications of the act. Look at who
>> >>>>>> gets
>> >>>>>> hurt by it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Not doing your due diligence and picking a side is a threat to our
>> >>>>>> democracy and our country.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Keep in mind that in this election, the popular vote was split in
>> >>>>>> half.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:58 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> >>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> the bulk of those are them doing it themselves, like the college
>> >>>>>> tweet
>> >>>>>> threats that turned out the victim had sent herself from the
>> >>>>>> library... she
>> >>>>>> justified it by saying it was ok because it brought about a
>> >>>>>> conversation
>> >>>>>> there are three media reports today of women who had their hijabs
>> >>>>>> ripped off in walmarts and threats, but no surveillance
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> its ultraliberal trash
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> now the stains a week or two ago that put a noose around their own
>> >>>>>> team mates neck, real scumbags, but they arent pretending to be the
>> >>>>>> victims
>> >>>>>> and arent hiding behind a constitution they would sooner wipe their
>> >>>>>> backsides with when its no longer a convenient shield
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> best thing in this so far, that rawlings blake broad in baltimore
>> >>>>>> who
>> >>>>>> provided a space for the "protesters" to destroy was ousted,
>> >>>>>> hopefully she
>> >>>>>> moves to cali before they secede,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> regular liberals are neccessary, the offer balance to people like
>> >>>>>> me,
>> >>>>>> i really should have clarified the ultra part in the beginning
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Josh Reynolds
>> >>>>>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> They are no different than the kids spray painting racist messages
>> >>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>> schools, on monuments, assaulting Muslim women, or throwing human
>> >>>>>>> mannequins
>> >>>>>>> off of bridges right now with nooses around their necks.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> >>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and harassing
>> >>>>>>>> people right now because the peaceful transition of power only
>> >>>>>>>> applied to
>> >>>>>>>> trump supporters. These people are less than, they are takers
>> >>>>>>>> that offer
>> >>>>>>>> nothing, they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they demand
>> >>>>>>>> control
>> >>>>>>>> over others with no control over them as that would violate their
>> >>>>>>>> rights. Im
>> >>>>>>>> not led by the media at all, im led by reality

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
t;>>>>>
> >>>>>> Keep in mind that in this election, the popular vote was split in
> >>>>>> half.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:58 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> >>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> the bulk of those are them doing it themselves, like the college
> tweet
> >>>>>> threats that turned out the victim had sent herself from the
> library... she
> >>>>>> justified it by saying it was ok because it brought about a
> conversation
> >>>>>> there are three media reports today of women who had their hijabs
> >>>>>> ripped off in walmarts and threats, but no surveillance
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> its ultraliberal trash
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> now the stains a week or two ago that put a noose around their own
> >>>>>> team mates neck, real scumbags, but they arent pretending to be the
> victims
> >>>>>> and arent hiding behind a constitution they would sooner wipe their
> >>>>>> backsides with when its no longer a convenient shield
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> best thing in this so far, that rawlings blake broad in baltimore
> who
> >>>>>> provided a space for the "protesters" to destroy was ousted,
> hopefully she
> >>>>>> moves to cali before they secede,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> regular liberals are neccessary, the offer balance to people like
> me,
> >>>>>> i really should have clarified the ultra part in the beginning
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They are no different than the kids spray painting racist messages
> in
> >>>>>>> schools, on monuments, assaulting Muslim women, or throwing human
> mannequins
> >>>>>>> off of bridges right now with nooses around their necks.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> >>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and harassing
> >>>>>>>> people right now because the peaceful transition of power only
> applied to
> >>>>>>>> trump supporters. These people are less than, they are takers
> that offer
> >>>>>>>> nothing, they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they demand
> control
> >>>>>>>> over others with no control over them as that would violate their
> rights. Im
> >>>>>>>> not led by the media at all, im led by reality, they are
> trashcans, there
> >>>>>>>> are tons of them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off
> into the
> >>>>>>>> ocean, sad for the few good folks out there, ill weep without
> tears for
> >>>>>>>> their loss, but Ill get over it
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds
> >>>>>>>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The divide the politicians and media in this country have created
> >>>>>>>>> is a huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider
> the other
> >>>>>>>>> side "less than", then you are part of the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage.
> >>>>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are
> >>>>>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and
> >>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
k because it brought about a conversation
>>>>>> there are three media reports today of women who had their hijabs
>>>>>> ripped off in walmarts and threats, but no surveillance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> its ultraliberal trash
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now the stains a week or two ago that put a noose around their own
>>>>>> team mates neck, real scumbags, but they arent pretending to be the 
>>>>>> victims
>>>>>> and arent hiding behind a constitution they would sooner wipe their
>>>>>> backsides with when its no longer a convenient shield
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best thing in this so far, that rawlings blake broad in baltimore who
>>>>>> provided a space for the "protesters" to destroy was ousted, hopefully 
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> moves to cali before they secede,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regular liberals are neccessary, the offer balance to people like me,
>>>>>> i really should have clarified the ultra part in the beginning
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are no different than the kids spray painting racist messages in
>>>>>>> schools, on monuments, assaulting Muslim women, or throwing human 
>>>>>>> mannequins
>>>>>>> off of bridges right now with nooses around their necks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and harassing
>>>>>>>> people right now because the peaceful transition of power only applied 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> trump supporters. These people are less than, they are takers that 
>>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>> nothing, they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they demand 
>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>> over others with no control over them as that would violate their 
>>>>>>>> rights. Im
>>>>>>>> not led by the media at all, im led by reality, they are trashcans, 
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> are tons of them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off into the
>>>>>>>> ocean, sad for the few good folks out there, ill weep without tears for
>>>>>>>> their loss, but Ill get over it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds
>>>>>>>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The divide the politicians and media in this country have created
>>>>>>>>> is a huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider the 
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> side "less than", then you are part of the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage.
>>>>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are
>>>>>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and
>>>>>>>>> starved while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> other pen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Guns -  Conservative
>>>>>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
rified the ultra part in the beginning
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They are no different than the kids spray painting racist messages in
>>>>>> schools, on monuments, assaulting Muslim women, or throwing human
>>>>>> mannequins off of bridges right now with nooses around their necks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and harassing
>>>>>>> people right now because the peaceful transition of power only applied 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> trump supporters. These people are less than, they are takers that offer
>>>>>>> nothing, they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they demand control
>>>>>>> over others with no control over them as that would violate their 
>>>>>>> rights.
>>>>>>> Im not led by the media at all, im led by reality, they are trashcans,
>>>>>>> there are tons of them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off into
>>>>>>> the ocean, sad for the few good folks out there, ill weep without tears 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> their loss, but Ill get over it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The divide the politicians and media in this country have created
>>>>>>>> is a huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider the 
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> side "less than", then you are part of the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage.
>>>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are
>>>>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and
>>>>>>>> starved while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the
>>>>>>>> other pen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Guns -  Conservative
>>>>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>>>>>>>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
>>>>>>>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
>>>>>>>>> Unions - Conservative
>>>>>>>>> Environment – Middle of the road
>>>>>>>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
>>>>>>>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
>>>>>>>>> Corporal punishment – Conservative
>>>>>>>>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
>>>>>>>>> Welfare – Tough love liberal
>>>>>>>>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
>>>>>>>>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
>>>>>>>>> Taxes – Ditto
>>>>>>>>> Healthcare – Liberal
>>>>>>>>> Religion – Conservative
>>>>>>>>> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
violate their rights.
>>>>>> Im not led by the media at all, im led by reality, they are trashcans,
>>>>>> there are tons of them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off into
>>>>>> the ocean, sad for the few good folks out there, ill weep without tears 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> their loss, but Ill get over it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The divide the politicians and media in this country have created is
>>>>>>> a huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider the other
>>>>>>> side "less than", then you are part of the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage.
>>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are
>>>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved
>>>>>>> while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other 
>>>>>>> pen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guns -  Conservative
>>>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>>>>>>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
>>>>>>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
>>>>>>>> Unions - Conservative
>>>>>>>> Environment – Middle of the road
>>>>>>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
>>>>>>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
>>>>>>>> Corporal punishment – Conservative
>>>>>>>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
>>>>>>>> Welfare – Tough love liberal
>>>>>>>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
>>>>>>>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
>>>>>>>> Taxes – Ditto
>>>>>>>> Healthcare – Liberal
>>>>>>>> Religion – Conservative
>>>>>>>> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the
>>>>>>>> unreasonable idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe 
>>>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>>>> because all sex is rape
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will
>>>>>>>>> realize that they just drank sand."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters-
>>>>>>>>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal
>>>>>>>>> filth, there would nee

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
f into
>>>>>> the ocean, sad for the few good folks out there, ill weep without tears 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> their loss, but Ill get over it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The divide the politicians and media in this country have created is
>>>>>>> a huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider the other
>>>>>>> side "less than", then you are part of the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage.
>>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are
>>>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved
>>>>>>> while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other 
>>>>>>> pen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guns -  Conservative
>>>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>>>>>>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
>>>>>>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
>>>>>>>> Unions - Conservative
>>>>>>>> Environment – Middle of the road
>>>>>>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
>>>>>>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
>>>>>>>> Corporal punishment – Conservative
>>>>>>>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
>>>>>>>> Welfare – Tough love liberal
>>>>>>>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
>>>>>>>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
>>>>>>>> Taxes – Ditto
>>>>>>>> Healthcare – Liberal
>>>>>>>> Religion – Conservative
>>>>>>>> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the
>>>>>>>> unreasonable idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe 
>>>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>>>> because all sex is rape
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will
>>>>>>>>> realize that they just drank sand."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters-
>>>>>>>>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal
>>>>>>>>> filth, there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over 
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> they exit though, that would be cheating
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
der the other
>>>>>> side "less than", then you are part of the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage.
>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are
>>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved
>>>>>> while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other 
>>>>>> pen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guns -  Conservative
>>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>>>>>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
>>>>>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
>>>>>>> Unions - Conservative
>>>>>>> Environment – Middle of the road
>>>>>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
>>>>>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
>>>>>>> Corporal punishment – Conservative
>>>>>>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
>>>>>>> Welfare – Tough love liberal
>>>>>>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
>>>>>>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
>>>>>>> Taxes – Ditto
>>>>>>> Healthcare – Liberal
>>>>>>> Religion – Conservative
>>>>>>> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the
>>>>>>> unreasonable idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe 
>>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>>> because all sex is rape
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will
>>>>>>>> realize that they just drank sand."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters-
>>>>>>>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal
>>>>>>>> filth, there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over 
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> they exit though, that would be cheating
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your emotions say yes, but it would absolutely fuck the rest of
>>>>>>>>> the country.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> California subsidizes the majority of the red states, but mainly
>>>>>>>>> the south. You'd lose your largest ports, and your only East-Facing 
>>>>>>>>> ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many of your vegetables and fruits would be much more expensive.
>>>>>>>>> Electronics, rubber, rare earth metals 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
rage.
>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are
>>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved
>>>>>> while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other 
>>>>>> pen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guns -  Conservative
>>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>>>>>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
>>>>>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
>>>>>>> Unions - Conservative
>>>>>>> Environment – Middle of the road
>>>>>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
>>>>>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
>>>>>>> Corporal punishment – Conservative
>>>>>>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
>>>>>>> Welfare – Tough love liberal
>>>>>>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
>>>>>>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
>>>>>>> Taxes – Ditto
>>>>>>> Healthcare – Liberal
>>>>>>> Religion – Conservative
>>>>>>> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the
>>>>>>> unreasonable idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe 
>>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>>> because all sex is rape
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will
>>>>>>>> realize that they just drank sand."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters-
>>>>>>>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal
>>>>>>>> filth, there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over 
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> they exit though, that would be cheating
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your emotions say yes, but it would absolutely fuck the rest of
>>>>>>>>> the country.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> California subsidizes the majority of the red states, but mainly
>>>>>>>>> the south. You'd lose your largest ports, and your only East-Facing 
>>>>>>>>> ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many of your vegetables and fruits would be much more expensive.
>>>>>>>>> Electronics, rubber, rare earth metals would be much more expensive. 
>>>>>>>>> Every
>>>>>>>>> state would pay 3-5 times more in federal taxes to make up the loss.
>>>>>>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
>>>>>> Compromise, the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are
>>>>>> told to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved
>>>>>> while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other 
>>>>>> pen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guns -  Conservative
>>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>>>>>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
>>>>>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
>>>>>>> Unions - Conservative
>>>>>>> Environment – Middle of the road
>>>>>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
>>>>>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
>>>>>>> Corporal punishment – Conservative
>>>>>>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
>>>>>>> Welfare – Tough love liberal
>>>>>>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
>>>>>>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
>>>>>>> Taxes – Ditto
>>>>>>> Healthcare – Liberal
>>>>>>> Religion – Conservative
>>>>>>> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the
>>>>>>> unreasonable idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe 
>>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>>> because all sex is rape
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will
>>>>>>>> realize that they just drank sand."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters-
>>>>>>>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal
>>>>>>>> filth, there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over 
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> they exit though, that would be cheating
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your emotions say yes, but it would absolutely fuck the rest of
>>>>>>>>> the country.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> California subsidizes the majority of the red states, but mainly
>>>>>>>>> the south. You'd lose your largest ports, and your only East-Facing 
>>>>>>>>> ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many of your vegetables and fruits would be much more expensive.
>>>>>>>>> Electronics, rubber, rare earth metals would be much more expensive. 
>>>>>>>>> Every
>>>>>>>>> state would pay 3-5 times more in federal taxes to make up the loss.
>>>>>>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guns -  Conservative
>>>>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>>>>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
>>>>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
>>>>>> Unions - Conservative
>>>>>> Environment – Middle of the road
>>>>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
>>>>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
>>>>>> Corporal punishment – Conservative
>>>>>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
>>>>>> Welfare – Tough love liberal
>>>>>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
>>>>>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
>>>>>> Taxes – Ditto
>>>>>> Healthcare – Liberal
>>>>>> Religion – Conservative
>>>>>> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the
>>>>>> unreasonable idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe 
>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>> because all sex is rape
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will
>>>>>>> realize that they just drank sand."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters-
>>>>>>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal
>>>>>>> filth, there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over before
>>>>>>> they exit though, that would be cheating
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your emotions say yes, but it would absolutely fuck the rest of the
>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> California subsidizes the majority of the red states, but mainly
>>>>>>>> the south. You'd lose your largest ports, and your only East-Facing 
>>>>>>>> ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many of your vegetables and fruits would be much more expensive.
>>>>>>>> Electronics, rubber, rare earth metals would be much more expensive. 
>>>>>>>> Every
>>>>>>>> state would pay 3-5 times more in federal taxes to make up the loss.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's a lot more to this, buy it would be decent for California
>>>>>>>> and terrible for the rest of the country.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, Walmart would go out of business mostly, so there's that I
>>>>>>>> guess.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 9:39 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> God that would be the greatest thing ever. get California out of
>>>>>>>>> here, make puerto rico or some other place a state, we dont even have 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> update our flags. win win
>>>>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
They are no different than the kids spray painting racist messages in
schools, on monuments, assaulting Muslim women, or throwing human
mannequins off of bridges right now with nooses around their necks.

On Nov 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and harassing people
> right now because the peaceful transition of power only applied to trump
> supporters. These people are less than, they are takers that offer nothing,
> they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they demand control over others
> with no control over them as that would violate their rights. Im not led by
> the media at all, im led by reality, they are trashcans, there are tons of
> them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off into the ocean, sad for
> the few good folks out there, ill weep without tears for their loss, but
> Ill get over it
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The divide the politicians and media in this country have created is a
>> huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider the other side
>> "less than", then you are part of the problem.
>>
>> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage. Compromise,
>> the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
>>
>> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are told
>> to. If you disagree you are "one of them".
>>
>> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved
>> while our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other pen.
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>>
>>> Guns -  Conservative
>>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
>>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
>>> Unions - Conservative
>>> Environment – Middle of the road
>>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
>>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
>>> Corporal punishment – Conservative
>>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
>>> Welfare – Tough love liberal
>>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
>>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
>>> Taxes – Ditto
>>> Healthcare – Liberal
>>> Religion – Conservative
>>> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>>
>>> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the unreasonable
>>> idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe spaces because all
>>> sex is rape
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will
>>>> realize that they just drank sand."
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters-
>>>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal
>>>> filth, there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over before
>>>> they exit though, that would be cheating
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Your emotions say yes, but it would absolutely fuck the rest of the
>>>>> country.
>>>>>
>>>>> California subsidizes the majority of the red states, but mainly the
>>>>> south. You'd lose your largest ports, and your only East-Facing ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many of your vegetables and fruits would be much more expensive.
>>>>> Electronics, rubber, rare earth metals would be much more expensive. Every
>>>>> state would pay 3-5 times more in federal taxes to make up the loss.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a lot mo

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
ultraliberals are currently out destroying things and harassing people
right now because the peaceful transition of power only applied to trump
supporters. These people are less than, they are takers that offer nothing,
they are rule makers who dont follow rules, they demand control over others
with no control over them as that would violate their rights. Im not led by
the media at all, im led by reality, they are trashcans, there are tons of
them in cali, i wont miss them when they fall off into the ocean, sad for
the few good folks out there, ill weep without tears for their loss, but
Ill get over it

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> The divide the politicians and media in this country have created is a
> huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider the other side
> "less than", then you are part of the problem.
>
> The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage. Compromise,
> the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.
>
> We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are told to.
> If you disagree you are "one of them".
>
> Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved while
> our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other pen.
>
> On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>>
>> Guns -  Conservative
>> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
>> Latino Immigration - Liberal
>> Muslim immigration - Conservative
>> Unions - Conservative
>> Environment – Middle of the road
>> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
>> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
>> Corporal punishment – Conservative
>> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
>> Welfare – Tough love liberal
>> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
>> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
>> Taxes – Ditto
>> Healthcare – Liberal
>> Religion – Conservative
>> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>
>> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the unreasonable
>> idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe spaces because all
>> sex is rape
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will realize
>>> that they just drank sand."
>>>
>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters-
>>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal
>>> filth, there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over before
>>> they exit though, that would be cheating
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your emotions say yes, but it would absolutely fuck the rest of the
>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>> California subsidizes the majority of the red states, but mainly the
>>>> south. You'd lose your largest ports, and your only East-Facing ones.
>>>>
>>>> Many of your vegetables and fruits would be much more expensive.
>>>> Electronics, rubber, rare earth metals would be much more expensive. Every
>>>> state would pay 3-5 times more in federal taxes to make up the loss.
>>>>
>>>> There's a lot more to this, buy it would be decent for California and
>>>> terrible for the rest of the country.
>>>>
>>>> Well, Walmart would go out of business mostly, so there's that I guess.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 9:39 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> God that would be the greatest thing ever. get California out of here,
>>>>> make puerto rico or some other place a state, we dont even have to update
>>>>> our flags. win win
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Jaime Solorza <
>>>&

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
The divide the politicians and media in this country have created is a
huge, huge problem. If you live on either side and consider the other side
"less than", then you are part of the problem.

The only useful political muscle in America anymore is rage. Compromise,
the most valuable and important one, had atrophied.

We threw away our moral compasses, and only walk the lines we are told to.
If you disagree you are "one of them".

Bunch of dogs being led into two different pens - beaten and starved while
our handlers teach us that the problem is the dogs in the other pen.

On Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I am liberal on some things, conservative on others, meh on many.
>
> Guns -  Conservative
> Abortion – Conservative – the normal exceptions
> Latino Immigration - Liberal
> Muslim immigration - Conservative
> Unions - Conservative
> Environment – Middle of the road
> Renewable Energy – Ultra Liberal
> Leash Laws – Get off my lawn – gonna get my gun
> Corporal punishment – Conservative
> LGBT-QRSTUVWZYZ – Meh squared - Meh to the googol
> Welfare – Tough love liberal
> Marijuana Liberalization – Far out man...
> Size of guvmnt – Very Conservative
> Taxes – Ditto
> Healthcare – Liberal
> Religion – Conservative
> Military spending – wish I could get me some
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>
> sorry, ultraliberal would have been more appropriate, the unreasonable
> idiots who are physically harmed by words and need safe spaces because all
> sex is rape
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To quote from the article: "Before long yesterday’s voters will realize
>> that they just drank sand."
>>
>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-voters-
>> elected-president-donald-j-trump-and-why-they-ll-regret-it.html
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> i would have no issue with higher taxes just to remove the liberal filth,
>> there would need to be a wall first so they cant come over before they exit
>> though, that would be cheating
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Your emotions say yes, but it would absolutely fuck the rest of the
>>> country.
>>>
>>> California subsidizes the majority of the red states, but mainly the
>>> south. You'd lose your largest ports, and your only East-Facing ones.
>>>
>>> Many of your vegetables and fruits would be much more expensive.
>>> Electronics, rubber, rare earth metals would be much more expensive. Every
>>> state would pay 3-5 times more in federal taxes to make up the loss.
>>>
>>> There's a lot more to this, buy it would be decent for California and
>>> terrible for the rest of the country.
>>>
>>> Well, Walmart would go out of business mostly, so there's that I guess.
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2016 9:39 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> God that would be the greatest thing ever. get California out of here,
>>>> make puerto rico or some other place a state, we dont even have to update
>>>> our flags. win win
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Jaime Solorza <
>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was watching a report that California protesters want to secede from
>>>>> US!!!  Wow I though Wacko Texans had the exclusive on that idea!!   My
>>>>> grandson called Trumps victory Pyrrhic...interesting for a 13 year old.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 4:01 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was joking...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 3:28 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> . No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's ...
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yeah right.  All us so called liberals are wimps Keep thinking that..

On Nov 10, 2016 12:07 PM, "Sam Morris"  wrote:

> When I read Dan's post I was reminded of this.
>
>
> On 11/10/2016 12:41 PM, Dan Petermann wrote:
>
>> In a break with California with little time for either side to prepare,
>> California would be bankrupted almost immediately.
>>
>> They import over 30% of their electricity. They would have to build new
>> power plants or pay for access.
>>
>> They do not have the refinery capacity to produce their daily needs for
>> gasoline or diesel.
>>
>> 47% of their commodities are imported from other states.
>>
>> Other states would be free to use a much greater percentage of the
>> Colorado river, this would devastate S. California cities as they get a
>> lot of their water from that river.
>>
>> California needs the US more than we need them.
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Sam Morris

When I read Dan's post I was reminded of this.


On 11/10/2016 12:41 PM, Dan Petermann wrote:

In a break with California with little time for either side to prepare,
California would be bankrupted almost immediately.

They import over 30% of their electricity. They would have to build new
power plants or pay for access.

They do not have the refinery capacity to produce their daily needs for
gasoline or diesel.

47% of their commodities are imported from other states.

Other states would be free to use a much greater percentage of the
Colorado river, this would devastate S. California cities as they get a
lot of their water from that river.

California needs the US more than we need them.




Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-10 Thread Sam Morris
Doesn't offend me. But then, I fall into both of those 
stereotypes...can't dance, and well, you know.


(This is not directed at Jaime...)  Seriously though - people need to 
grow some effin skin. You're offended? W. Grow up. If you shoot at 
me, I'll probably take offense. Call me names or stereotype me? So what. 
Makes you look ignorant, not me.



On 11/9/2016 2:24 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Looking at hot chic is one thing..  Touching and having affair is
another... Let me be clear... I have never advocated open border... I
know the law... But the broad paint brush he used to put us all in that
basket.. No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's
...


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
I was joking...

On Nov 9, 2016 3:28 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> . No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's ...
>>
> Hey, I resemble that remark.
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 8:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Can't respond at moment Sam and Paul... Salient points you bring up and
>> will give me perspective.. .getting certification on another camera system
>> family.  A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 8:37 AM, "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:
>>
>> You do know the only party that ever created camps and interred Americans
>> was the Democrats, right? And that Carter postponed Muslim immigration
>>
>> How soon people forget. :)
>>
>>
>> On 11/9/2016 8:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist
>> is not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not
>> racist?  That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we
>> don't teach history anymore without editing to make us angelic and
>> perfect how would the uneducated male who helped him win know... Not
>> that they give a shit..
>>
>> Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in
>> sweatshops out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife
>> and children, is not an issue.   What a crock of shit... I weep for our
>> country...
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration.
>> Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult time
>> discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly label the
>> former group as racist.
>>
>> US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long
>> and difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for
>> the shortcut.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+
>> IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.
>> com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.
>> linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://
>> twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> 
>> 
>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>
>> I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I
>> guess. Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia
>> deal. Mauve I am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code
>> language" or whatever.
>>
>> I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our
>> Latino friends think about this?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza
>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> And Putin is happy.  Wow
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the
>> 1930s and let's Make America White Again theme brought out
>> vote for him.   Many of these rural voters want the country
>> to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will be the
>> judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
>> radioheads and KKK guys probably 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> . No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's ...
>
Hey, I resemble that remark.

On Nov 9, 2016 8:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can't respond at moment Sam and Paul... Salient points you bring up and
> will give me perspective.. .getting certification on another camera system
> family.  A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 8:37 AM, "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:
>
> You do know the only party that ever created camps and interred Americans
> was the Democrats, right? And that Carter postponed Muslim immigration
>
> How soon people forget. :)
>
>
> On 11/9/2016 8:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist
> is not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not
> racist?  That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we
> don't teach history anymore without editing to make us angelic and
> perfect how would the uneducated male who helped him win know... Not
> that they give a shit..
>
> Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in
> sweatshops out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife
> and children, is not an issue.   What a crock of shit... I weep for our
> country...
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>
> Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration.
> Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult time
> discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly label the
> former group as racist.
>
> US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long
> and difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for
> the shortcut.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><
> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>
> --------
> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>
> I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I
> guess. Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia
> deal. Mauve I am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code
> language" or whatever.
>
> I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our
> Latino friends think about this?
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza
> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> And Putin is happy.  Wow
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the
> 1930s and let's Make America White Again theme brought out
> vote for him.   Many of these rural voters want the country
> to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will be the
> judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
> radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves...
> And make your own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>
> Huh?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
So some smart guys are setting up for building the wall Getting cement
prices, rebar,  tools, back hoes, workers, etc They are all on the
Mexican side ...they figure no one of this side wants to work for peanuts
in the desert heat and sun I am trying to find the link.  Tongue in
cheek

On Nov 9, 2016 1:24 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looking at hot chic is one thing..  Touching and having affair is
> another... Let me be clear... I have never advocated open border... I know
> the law... But the broad paint brush he used to put us all in that basket..
> No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's
> ...stereotyping.. Don't care how you cut... It's offensive... I was going
> to write on exploration versus persecution... How Spaniards and Portuguese
> were looking for new trade routes and Pilgrims looking for place to
> practice their religion freely How regardless of reasons it destroyed
> many cultures... And the ramifications of all this into the current
> feelings from isolationists... But I am tired of this already... Let's
> agree that we disagree.   You will never convince that Trump is someone you
> would trust alone with your daughters or wives.   So here go Hold on
> tight...
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 8:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can't respond at moment Sam and Paul... Salient points you bring up and
>> will give me perspective.. .getting certification on another camera system
>> family.  A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 8:37 AM, "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You do know the only party that ever created camps and interred
>>> Americans was the Democrats, right? And that Carter postponed Muslim
>>> immigration
>>>
>>> How soon people forget. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/9/2016 8:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>>> So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist
>>>> is not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not
>>>> racist?  That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we
>>>> don't teach history anymore without editing to make us angelic and
>>>> perfect how would the uneducated male who helped him win know... Not
>>>> that they give a shit..
>>>>
>>>> Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in
>>>> sweatshops out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife
>>>> and children, is not an issue.   What a crock of shit... I weep for our
>>>> country...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
>>>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration.
>>>> Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult time
>>>> discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly label the
>>>> former group as racist.
>>>>
>>>> US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long
>>>> and difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for
>>>> the shortcut.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>>>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>>>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com
>>>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, N

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Looking at hot chic is one thing..  Touching and having affair is
another... Let me be clear... I have never advocated open border... I know
the law... But the broad paint brush he used to put us all in that basket..
No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's
...stereotyping.. Don't care how you cut... It's offensive... I was going
to write on exploration versus persecution... How Spaniards and Portuguese
were looking for new trade routes and Pilgrims looking for place to
practice their religion freely How regardless of reasons it destroyed
many cultures... And the ramifications of all this into the current
feelings from isolationists... But I am tired of this already... Let's
agree that we disagree.   You will never convince that Trump is someone you
would trust alone with your daughters or wives.   So here go Hold on
tight...

On Nov 9, 2016 8:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can't respond at moment Sam and Paul... Salient points you bring up and
> will give me perspective.. .getting certification on another camera system
> family.  A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 8:37 AM, "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:
>
>> You do know the only party that ever created camps and interred Americans
>> was the Democrats, right? And that Carter postponed Muslim immigration
>>
>> How soon people forget. :)
>>
>>
>> On 11/9/2016 8:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>>> So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist
>>> is not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not
>>> racist?  That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we
>>> don't teach history anymore without editing to make us angelic and
>>> perfect how would the uneducated male who helped him win know... Not
>>> that they give a shit..
>>>
>>> Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in
>>> sweatshops out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife
>>> and children, is not an issue.   What a crock of shit... I weep for our
>>> country...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
>>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration.
>>> Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult time
>>> discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly label the
>>> former group as racist.
>>>
>>> US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long
>>> and difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for
>>> the shortcut.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com
>>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>>
>>> I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I
>>> guess. Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia
>>> deal. Mauve I am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code
>>> language" or whatever.
>>>
>>> I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our
>>> Latino friends think about this?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza
>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Wireless Administrator
If he gets even half the things on his platform done, he will be the greatest 
president ever to hold office.

 

I’m with HIM!

 

# Drain the Swamp

 

I just ordered the T-Shirt.

 

Steve B.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 8:24 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

 

And Putin is happy.  Wow

 

On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the  1930s and let's Make 
America White Again theme brought out vote for him.   Many of these rural 
voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will 
be the judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing radioheads and 
KKK guys probably came all over themselves... And make your own tamales.. They 
will be bland with no flavor.   

 

On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

Huh?



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 




  _  

From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

Proves one thing... We are NOT united states

 

On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over the 
devil you do.

 

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless 

 

On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and 
walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the door 
open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do another 180. 
This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the reality sets in 
that they may have really fu**ed up

 

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the right. 
Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.

 

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
the board for our country."



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote for
> their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
> internets reach.
> The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers, their
> constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>
> Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything hes
> so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
> race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
> hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
> Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
> hell of a race
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling has
>> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.
>>
>> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
>>> 1984
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jay Weekley

Too late. I looked on Youtube.  Good job Paul.

Paul McCall wrote:


Kurt,

I will send you a few links OFFLIST.  Not a place to toot my own horn 
(pun somewhat intended)


Paul

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 10:20 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

Paul,

Your in a band!?! This is more shocking news than the election 
results! Where can we find the youtube videos?


Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110


On Nov 9, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net 
<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:


Jaime,

I know this is a sensitive issues culturally, and I know you are
sincere in your concerns.  However, a lot of what was made out of
his statements was highly exaggerated into PC / political talking
points.  Instead of listening for actual plans to develop the
media way overdid it, and took great liberties to distort for a
story line to support their ratings and liberal agenda.

In now particular order…

There are NO automatic granted “rights” for people to be able to
come into this county.  None in the constitution, none in current
policy or law.  There is a policy to apply for legal immigration.

#1 on any county’s list is “sovereign integrity”.  Meaning, the US
has a right to real borders, and has a right to not admit those
who might not be a good fit.  Yep, that is the case and the US has
a duty (not just a right) to protect itself now and in the
future.  The US has given up on that for way too long and is a
very dangerous position because of the relatively small % of “bad
apples” that have let in completely unchecked.  The is almost no
vetting system currently, no structure on protecting who comes
into the country.

That being said…

The “freeze” on Muslims immigrating into our country, until we
know who these people are exactly (and no such vetting system
exists), is simply a wise move.  He never said permanently. I have
Muslim friends and those friends were essentially, vetted by
myself.  Not in a formal action but in getting to know them.  They
are the first to acknowledge the cold hard facts, that percentage
wise, the number of extremists in that religion is a very large
number.  They also support the “freeze” because they don’t want to
be blown up either randomly at a public place by people that place
NO value on your life or theirs.  Trump hasn’t spoke of permanent
internment camps for Muslims; he said simply, we won’t let them in
“until we figure out how to deal with some form of system to vet
them”.  It’s no more complicated than that.  Yet, that’s not what
fear and the media would like you to believe.  To call using
common sense to protect your sovereignty like being a NAZI is far
reaching,

Not being racist, but being wise, I can glady share in detail
(offlist) with you my personal experience In Israel 16 years ago,
and the pure evil I experienced from Muslims who were in their own
eyes, “just normal”.  If there is not enough evidence now to
justify wise actions to protect ourselves domestically from evil
factions from permeating the US sovereign integrity, then we are
really, really missing something.  It IS a cultural thing, and it
is scary.

Since we can’t vet it who is who, a freeze until such time as a
system is developed to properly can do that, is reasonable.  Is
Trump the most eloquent speaker and did he articulate it in a way
that the aggressive media cannot tear apart?  Absolutely not.

On the “wall”, it is a small part, a start if you will, to being
to protect the nation’s sovereignty from the south from ANY
factions, not just Hispanics.  It doesn’t address 75% of the
problem.  But it is a start.  Mexico is discussing the same thing
to protect itself from the south.  I have zero problem with
Mexicans, Hispanics or anybody else.   We employee some great
Hispanics in my country, and one of them has struggled with the
legal system on him staying here.  It’s a mess.  He doesn’t
support no control on immigration.  I play in a Latin band where I
am the only gringo out of 14 players.  None of them would judge as
a racist for trying to look at the problem and eliminate the “2%
bad element” that does cause 90% of the problem for us.   Trump’s
comments about some of them back and forth from Mexico that have
committed horrendous acts, some repeatedly, with no response on
accountability for those shipped back for crimes, IS a problem. 
Again, did Trump articulate this in a way that didn’t offend a

larger block of people in the process?  Not a chance.  But, Can he
start to 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Paul McCall
Kurt,

I will send you a few links OFFLIST.  Not a place to toot my own horn (pun 
somewhat intended)

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 10:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

Paul,

Your in a band!?! This is more shocking news than the election results! Where 
can we find the youtube videos?

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

On Nov 9, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Paul McCall 
<pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
Jaime,

I know this is a sensitive issues culturally, and I know you are sincere in 
your concerns.  However, a lot of what was made out of his statements was 
highly exaggerated into PC / political talking points.  Instead of listening 
for actual plans to develop the media way overdid it, and took great liberties 
to distort for a story line to support their ratings and liberal agenda.

In now particular order…

There are NO automatic granted “rights” for people to be able to come into this 
county.  None in the constitution, none in current policy or law.  There is a 
policy to apply for legal immigration.

#1 on any county’s list is “sovereign integrity”.  Meaning, the US has a right 
to real borders, and has a right to not admit those who might not be a good 
fit.  Yep, that is the case and the US has a duty (not just a right) to protect 
itself now and in the future.  The US has given up on that for way too long and 
is a very dangerous position because of the relatively small % of “bad apples” 
that have let in completely unchecked.  The is almost no vetting system 
currently, no structure on protecting who comes into the country.

That being said…
The “freeze” on Muslims immigrating into our country, until we know who these 
people are exactly (and no such vetting system exists), is simply a wise move.  
He never said permanently. I have Muslim friends and those friends were 
essentially, vetted by myself.  Not in a formal action but in getting to know 
them.  They are the first to acknowledge the cold hard facts, that percentage 
wise, the number of extremists in that religion is a very large number.  They 
also support the “freeze” because they don’t want to be blown up either 
randomly at a public place by people that place NO value on your life or 
theirs.  Trump hasn’t spoke of permanent internment camps for Muslims; he said 
simply, we won’t let them in “until we figure out how to deal with some form of 
system to vet them”.  It’s no more complicated than that.  Yet, that’s not what 
fear and the media would like you to believe.  To call using common sense to 
protect your sovereignty like being a NAZI is far reaching,

Not being racist, but being wise, I can glady share in detail (offlist) with 
you my personal experience In Israel 16 years ago, and the pure evil I 
experienced from Muslims who were in their own eyes, “just normal”.  If there 
is not enough evidence now to justify wise actions to protect ourselves 
domestically from evil factions from permeating the US sovereign integrity, 
then we are really, really missing something.  It IS a cultural thing, and it 
is scary.

Since we can’t vet it who is who, a freeze until such time as a system is 
developed to properly can do that, is reasonable.  Is Trump the most eloquent 
speaker and did he articulate it in a way that the aggressive media cannot tear 
apart?  Absolutely not.

On the “wall”, it is a small part, a start if you will, to being to protect the 
nation’s sovereignty from the south from ANY factions, not just Hispanics.  It 
doesn’t address 75% of the problem.  But it is a start.  Mexico is discussing 
the same thing to protect itself from the south.  I have zero problem with 
Mexicans, Hispanics or anybody else.   We employee some great Hispanics in my 
country, and one of them has struggled with the legal system on him staying 
here.  It’s a mess.  He doesn’t support no control on immigration.  I play in a 
Latin band where I am the only gringo out of 14 players.  None of them would 
judge as a racist for trying to look at the problem and eliminate the “2% bad 
element” that does cause 90% of the problem for us.   Trump’s comments about 
some of them back and forth from Mexico that have committed horrendous acts, 
some repeatedly, with no response on accountability for those shipped back for 
crimes, IS a problem.  Again, did Trump articulate this in a way that didn’t 
offend a larger block of people in the process?  Not a chance.  But, Can he 
start to make changes?  I believe he can.

Someone mentioned KKK previously. Trump strongly disavowed their support 
recently.

As far as hypocrisy, that certainly is evident based on his past.  I can’t and 
won’t defend that in itself.  He seems to mean what he says though, without 
carefully sculptured PC rhetoric, and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Can't respond at moment Sam and Paul... Salient points you bring up and
will give me perspective.. .getting certification on another camera system
family.  A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...

On Nov 9, 2016 8:37 AM, "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:

> You do know the only party that ever created camps and interred Americans
> was the Democrats, right? And that Carter postponed Muslim immigration
>
> How soon people forget. :)
>
>
> On 11/9/2016 8:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
>> So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist
>> is not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not
>> racist?  That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we
>> don't teach history anymore without editing to make us angelic and
>> perfect how would the uneducated male who helped him win know... Not
>> that they give a shit..
>>
>> Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in
>> sweatshops out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife
>> and children, is not an issue.   What a crock of shit... I weep for our
>> country...
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration.
>> Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult time
>> discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly label the
>> former group as racist.
>>
>> US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long
>> and difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for
>> the shortcut.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.
>> com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>>     <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> 
>> 
>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>
>> I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I
>> guess. Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia
>> deal. Mauve I am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code
>> language" or whatever.
>>
>> I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our
>> Latino friends think about this?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza
>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> And Putin is happy.  Wow
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the
>> 1930s and let's Make America White Again theme brought out
>> vote for him.   Many of these rural voters want the country
>> to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will be the
>> judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
>> radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves...
>> And make your own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
You do know the only party that ever created camps and interred 
Americans was the Democrats, right? And that Carter postponed Muslim 
immigration


How soon people forget. :)


On 11/9/2016 8:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist
is not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not
racist?  That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we
don't teach history anymore without editing to make us angelic and
perfect how would the uneducated male who helped him win know... Not
that they give a shit..

Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in
sweatshops out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife
and children, is not an issue.   What a crock of shit... I weep for our
country...


On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration.
Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult time
discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly label the
former group as racist.

US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long
and difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for
the shortcut.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I
guess. Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia
deal. Mauve I am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code
language" or whatever.

I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our
Latino friends think about this?


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

And Putin is happy.  Wow


On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the
1930s and let's Make America White Again theme brought out
vote for him.   Many of these rural voters want the country
to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will be the
judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves...
And make your own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.

On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

Huh?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>


*From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
*To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] O

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Robert
And the other viewpoint would be that under Trump everything might be 
for sale to the highest bidder..  Not that that would have been any 
different under Clinton


On 11/9/16 6:22 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:

+1!

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


A Trump president and republican controlled congress is good for
WISPS. I'm looking forward to the next 5 years where the fixed
wireless industry is expected to double in size and hopefully we see
some small business friendly legislation that will allow us to hire
employees and pay less taxes and get away from this Obamacare
nightmare

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

Huh?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
*To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

Proves one thing... We are NOT united states


On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you
don't know over the devil you do.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
<mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless


On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are
trying to backpedal and walkback all the nonsense
theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the door
open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so
they can do another 180. This is probably the best
thing to watch of the night as the reality sets in
that they may have really fu**ed up

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on
the left, Trump on the right. Is populist = = bad?
Maybe not.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

Somebody mentioned on the news that "This
wasn't... Trump wasn't
running on a platform of unifying our
country.. he wasn't a unity
candidate. This is going to have very, very
deep consequences across
the board for our country."



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy
/sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the 
public would vote for
> their candidate. they overvalued their influence and 
undervalued the
> internets reach.
> The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers 
days are numbers, their
> constituents have spoken. America is a better place 
without it.
>
> Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an 
independent than anything hes
> so across the board on the major issues. He could 
have run an independent
  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
e seems to mean what he says though, 
> without carefully sculptured PC rhetoric, and he has said openly at each 
> example on his business, taxes….  ”Those loopholes shouldn’t exist.  I 
> shouldn’t be allowed exploit those.  I know all these because I have taken 
> advantage of most of them.  Now, let’s created legislation that STOPS ME from 
> doing so!”  I believe his intentions are good in that stance.
>  
> As far as who voted for Trump yesterday, obviously a LOT of people who tired 
> enough of being PC, that when they went in the voting booth and “flipped that 
> lever” for something other than the PC garbage that has swarmed a country and 
> been completely ineffective, yet incredibly divisive for the past 8 years.
>  
> I would say give him a chance.  I don’t think it is nearly the gloom and doom 
> that the media has stroked into existence.
>  
> Respectfully,
>  
> Pablo (Paul)  J
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 9:16 AM
> To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>  
> So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist is 
> not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not racist?  
> That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we don't teach 
> history anymore without editing to make us angelic and perfect how would the 
> uneducated male who helped him win know... Not that they give a shit..
> 
> Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in sweatshops 
> out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife and children, 
> is not an issue.   What a crock of shit... I weep for our country...
> 
>  
> On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration. Those that 
> did not come here legally or have a difficult time discerning legal from 
> illegal immigration ignorantly label the former group as racist.
> 
> US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long and 
> difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for the shortcut.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
> 
> I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I guess. Maybe 
> I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia deal. Mauve I am just 
> insensitive to what is interpreted as"code language" or whatever.
> 
> I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our Latino 
> friends think about this?
> 
>  
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And Putin is happy.  Wow
> 
>  
> On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the  1930s and let's 
> Make America White Again theme brought out vote for him.   Many of these 
> rural voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. 
> Time will be the judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing 
> radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves... And make your 
> own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.  
> 
> On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> Huh?
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
> 
> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
> 
>  
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over the 
> devil you do.
> 
>  
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
> 
>  
> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and 
> walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, bu

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Paul McCall
 think it is nearly the gloom and doom 
that the media has stroked into existence.

Respectfully,

Pablo (Paul)  ☺




From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 9:16 AM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day


So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist is not 
racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not racist?  That's 
how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we don't teach history anymore 
without editing to make us angelic and perfect how would the uneducated male 
who helped him win know... Not that they give a shit..

Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in sweatshops 
out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife and children, is 
not an issue.   What a crock of shit... I weep for our country...

On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration. Those that 
did not come here legally or have a difficult time discerning legal from 
illegal immigration ignorantly label the former group as racist.

US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long and 
difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for the shortcut.


-
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From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I guess. Maybe I 
want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia deal. Mauve I am just 
insensitive to what is interpreted as"code language" or whatever.

I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our Latino 
friends think about this?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

And Putin is happy.  Wow

On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the  1930s and let's Make 
America White Again theme brought out vote for him.   Many of these rural 
voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will 
be the judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing radioheads and 
KKK guys probably came all over themselves... And make your own tamales.. They 
will be bland with no flavor.
On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Huh?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Rory Conaway
Yea except that Arizona passed a minimum wage bill.  More economic ignoramuses 
telling me how to run my business.  For the record, everyone in my company 
makes more than what they voted for already but the idea of students or summer 
interns coming in is gone.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 5:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

A Trump president and republican controlled congress is good for WISPS. I'm 
looking forward to the next 5 years where the fixed wireless industry is 
expected to double in size and hopefully we see some small business friendly 
legislation that will allow us to hire employees and pay less taxes and get 
away from this Obamacare nightmare

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Mike Hammett 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Huh?


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From: "Jaime Solorza" 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

Proves one thing... We are NOT united states

On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over the 
devil you do.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless

On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and 
walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the door 
open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do another 180. 
This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the reality sets in 
that they may have really fu**ed up

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the right. 
Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
the board for our country."



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote for
> their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
> internets reach.
> The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers, their
> constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>
> Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything hes
> so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
> race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
> hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
> Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
> hell of a race
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> <j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
>>
>> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>> first 3 consecutive ter

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Rory Conaway
Even Fox News said he was going to lose.  Pretty amazing.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Morris
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 7:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

This is the same media who has been saying all along that Trump was not going 
to win.

We know how that turned out.

On 11/9/2016 2:32 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> The media by the way is actually saying the words: economies all over 
> the world have collapsed as a result of the outcome of this election,
>   nothing suspect about that kind of reporting



Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
This is the same media who has been saying all along that Trump was not 
going to win.


We know how that turned out.

On 11/9/2016 2:32 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

The media by the way is actually saying the words: economies all over
the world have collapsed as a result of the outcome of this election,
  nothing suspect about that kind of reporting




Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
There is no rape case against Trump. And show me a man who says he's 
never checked out a hot woman, and I'll show you a liar.


On 11/8/2016 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or Bill
Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at daughters are
a piece of shit... So what happens now, with lawsuits against him?  And
rape hearing in December?   I tired of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW
Fuck Trump


On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> wrote:

either result would have proven that

I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in the
WISP industry for 4 more years just to come back and see youre VOTE
TRUMP tagline Jaime. I think once the dust settles and the media
bias subsides, youll see the candidate in a different light, and
over the next 4 years the crow will become a gourmet meal.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

Proves one thing... We are NOT united states


On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
> wrote:

I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you
don't know over the devil you do.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
> wrote:

Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless


On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> wrote:

oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are
trying to backpedal and walkback all the nonsense
theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the door
open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so
they can do another 180. This is probably the best
thing to watch of the night as the reality sets in
that they may have really fu**ed up

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman
> wrote:

The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on
the left, Trump on the right. Is populist = =
bad? Maybe not.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

Somebody mentioned on the news that "This
wasn't... Trump wasn't
running on a platform of unifying our
country.. he wasn't a unity
candidate. This is going to have very, very
deep consequences across
the board for our country."



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One
Guy /sarcasm
> wrote:
 > they skewed their models hoping the hive
mind of the public would vote for
 > their candidate. they overvalued their
influence and undervalued the
 > internets reach.
 > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the
never trumpers days are numbers, their
 > constituents have spoken. America is a
better place without it.
 >
 > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes
more an independent than anything hes
 > so across the board on the major issues.
He could have run an independent
 > race but would have just split the right.
Even if she pulls a last minute
 > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for
the long term of our governance.
 > Bernie broke the democrats, they just
dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
 > hell of a race
 >
 > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh
Reynolds > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Not all Mexicans were called rapists and not all Muslims were called 
terrorists. It's simple ensuring nothing is getting through unaccounted for and 
then ensuring that you have as complete knowledge as you can on someone before 
giving them the keys to the kingdom. Everyone should be for that. 

Interment camps? First I've heard of that happening outside of tin foil hat 
wearers and FEMA. Internment camps, like FDR's? 

Uneducated simply means without an increasingly worthless college degree. 

You've been baited, Jaime, hook, line and sinker. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:15:36 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 


So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist is not 
racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not racist? That's 
how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we don't teach history anymore 
without editing to make us angelic and perfect how would the uneducated male 
who helped him win know... Not that they give a shit.. 
Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in sweatshops 
out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife and children, is 
not an issue. What a crock of shit... I weep for our country... 


On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration. Those that 
did not come here legally or have a difficult time discerning legal from 
illegal immigration ignorantly label the former group as racist. 

US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long and 
difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for the shortcut. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 


I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I guess. Maybe I 
want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia deal. Mauve I am just 
insensitive to what is interpreted as"code language" or whatever. 
I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our Latino 
friends think about this? 


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: 



And Putin is happy. Wow 




On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: 





The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the 1930s and let's Make 
America White Again theme brought out vote for him. Many of these rural voters 
want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will be the 
judge... I think the world skipped a beat. Right Wing radioheads and KKK guys 
probably came all over themselves... And make your own tamales.. They will be 
bland with no flavor. 







On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 












Huh? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 


Proves one thing... We are NOT united states 


On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over the 
devil you do. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless 


On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and 
walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the door 
open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do another 180. 
This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the reality sets in 
that they may have really fu**ed up 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the right. 
Is populist = = bad? Maybe not. 




On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 


Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't 
running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jon Langeler
+1!

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> A Trump president and republican controlled congress is good for WISPS. I'm 
> looking forward to the next 5 years where the fixed wireless industry is 
> expected to double in size and hopefully we see some small business friendly 
> legislation that will allow us to hire employees and pay less taxes and get 
> away from this Obamacare nightmare
> 
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>> Huh?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>> 
>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over 
>>> the devil you do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and 
>>>> walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the 
>>>> door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do 
>>>> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the 
>>>> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the 
>>>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>>>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>>>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>>>> the board for our country."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote 
>>>> > for
>>>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>>>> > internets reach.
>>>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers, 
>>>> > their
>>>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything 
>>>> > hes
>>>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
>>>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
>>>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
>>>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
>>>> > hell of a race
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>>>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>>>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling 
>>>> >> has
>>>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist is
not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not
racist?  That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we don't
teach history anymore without editing to make us angelic and perfect how
would the uneducated male who helped him win know... Not that they give a
shit..

Talking about jobs leaving US when you make suits and clothing in
sweatshops out of Asia, welching on deals and contacts, cheating on wife
and children, is not an issue.   What a crock of shit... I weep for our
country...

On Nov 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration. Those
> that did not come here legally or have a difficult time discerning legal
> from illegal immigration ignorantly label the former group as racist.
>
> US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long and
> difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for the shortcut.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
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> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --------------
> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>
> I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I guess.
> Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia deal. Mauve I
> am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code language" or whatever.
>
> I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our
> Latino friends think about this?
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And Putin is happy.  Wow
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the  1930s and let's
>> Make America White Again theme brought out vote for him.   Many of these
>> rural voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part..
>> Time will be the judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
>> radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves... And make your
>> own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>
>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
>> the devil you do.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One G

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jay Weekley
Anyone that has talked to someone that is trying to get US citizenship 
the right way knows what you are talking about.  Somehow certain groups 
are selected for expedited citizenship.


Mike Hammett wrote:
Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration. 
Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult time 
discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly label the former 
group as racist.


US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long 
and difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for the 
shortcut.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I guess. 
Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia deal. 
Mauve I am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code language" 
or whatever.


I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our 
Latino friends think about this?



On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


And Putin is happy.  Wow


On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the 
1930s and let's Make America White Again theme brought out

vote for him.   Many of these rural voters want the country to
go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will be the
judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves...
And make your own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.

On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

Huh?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>


*From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
        <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
*To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

Proves one thing... We are NOT united states


On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil
you don't know over the devil you do.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
<mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Just watching the fear on those people's faces is
priceless


On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks
are trying to backpedal and walkback all the
   

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Talking to several of them now. Also an African, and a guy from Puerto Rico
- all coworkers.

They are legitimately terrified. All are us citizens. They say they are
tired of getting profiled... Pulled over all the time just to have their
vehicles searched and then be let go.

I didn't realize it was that bad.

On Nov 9, 2016 8:03 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I guess.
> Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia deal. Mauve I
> am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code language" or whatever.
>
> I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our
> Latino friends think about this?
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And Putin is happy.  Wow
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the  1930s and let's
>> Make America White Again theme brought out vote for him.   Many of these
>> rural voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part..
>> Time will be the judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
>> radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves... And make your
>> own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>
>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
>> the devil you do.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal
>> and walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving
>> the door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
>> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
>> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>> the board for our country."
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>> for
>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>> > internets reach.
>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>> their
>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>> >
>> > Remember, trump isnt a republic

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jay Weekley
You took the words right out of my mouth. We had 25 to 30 candidates 
from both sides at one point but our choice came to Clinton and Trump.


Brett A Mansfield wrote:
I keep hoping that I'm going to wake up to find I've been in a coma or 
sleeping and having the worst nightmare imaginable. How the hell did 
Trump not only become the nominee, but actually won the presidency. 
This moron that I used to make fun of on reality TV is now the 
President Elect??? WTF?


But I'd have a similar thought if Hillary won.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Nov 9, 2016, at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
> wrote:



trump actually looks fearful, a mix of WTF and im about to get shot

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Robert > wrote:


The interesting thing is how well Michael Moore nailed it
two-three months ago...Nobody wanted to listen to him, but
all 5 points are what got executed on.


http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/



On 11/8/16 10:17 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Huh...well Jamie. I can only day that thank God this nation
is more than
just one elected official. No matter who wins I am convinced
we will
survive it.


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 12:15 AM That One Guy /sarcasm

>> wrote:

lol, the "rape" allegations were rescinded, for the third
time now.
Youll come around, hes potentially got 4 years to grow on
you. Once
you see the people you know who are undocumented coming
back through
the wall and being able to actually have a life in the
US, youll
soften. Hell, we will have so many mexicans by the time
hes done
mexico will be begging them to come back cause all they
have left
are the rapists trump kicked out. But we wont let them
go, because
we will have the best tamales

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza

>> wrote:

Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind
about him or
Bill Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men
who gawk at
daughters are a piece of shit... So what happens now,
with
lawsuits against him?  And rape hearing in December? 
 I tired

of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump


On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

>>
wrote:

either result would have proven that

I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins
to stay in
the WISP industry for 4 more years just to come
back and see
youre VOTE TRUMP tagline Jaime. I think once the dust
settles and the media bias subsides, youll see
the candidate
in a different light, and over the next 4 years
the crow
will become a gourmet meal.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza

>> wrote:

Proves one thing... We are NOT united states


On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"

>> wrote:

I guess this proves sometimes people
prefer the
devil you don't know over the devil you do.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
 >>
wrote:

Just watching the fear on those
people's faces
is priceless


On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One
Guy /sarcasm"


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration. Those that 
did not come here legally or have a difficult time discerning legal from 
illegal immigration ignorantly label the former group as racist. 

US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long and 
difficult process. Those that work for it hate those going for the shortcut. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:03:03 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 


I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I guess. Maybe I 
want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia deal. Mauve I am just 
insensitive to what is interpreted as"code language" or whatever. 
I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our Latino 
friends think about this? 


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: 



And Putin is happy. Wow 




On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: 





The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the 1930s and let's Make 
America White Again theme brought out vote for him. Many of these rural voters 
want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will be the 
judge... I think the world skipped a beat. Right Wing radioheads and KKK guys 
probably came all over themselves... And make your own tamales.. They will be 
bland with no flavor. 







On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 












Huh? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 


Proves one thing... We are NOT united states 


On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over the 
devil you do. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless 


On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and 
walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the door 
open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do another 180. 
This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the reality sets in 
that they may have really fu**ed up 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the right. 
Is populist = = bad? Maybe not. 




On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 


Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't 
running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity 
candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across 
the board for our country." 



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
< thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote for 
> their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the 
> internets reach. 
> The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers, their 
> constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it. 
> 
> Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything hes 
> so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent 
> race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute 
> hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance. 
> Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a 
> hell of a race 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 
> wrote: 
>> 
>> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the 
>> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the 
>> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling has 
>> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected. 
>> 
>> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well. 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gma

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jay Weekley
There was so much more to the election than whitey hates Mexicans and 
blacks.  If you had just chosen Sanders he probably would have won by a 
huge margin.  Both parties chose the worst possible candidate and this 
election was the result.  A deep analysis would probably find, in my 
opinion, that they voted for the least worst.


Jaime Solorza wrote:


The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the  1930s and 
let's Make America White Again theme brought out vote for him.   Many 
of these rural voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the 
saddest part.. Time will be the judge... I think the world skipped a 
beat.Right Wing radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over 
themselves... And make your own tamales.. They will be bland with no 
flavor.



On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:


Huh?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
*To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

Proves one thing... We are NOT united states


On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you
don't know over the devil you do.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
<mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless


On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are
trying to backpedal and walkback all the nonsense
theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the door
open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so
they can do another 180. This is probably the best
thing to watch of the night as the reality sets in
that they may have really fu**ed up

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on
the left, Trump on the right. Is populist = = bad?
Maybe not.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

Somebody mentioned on the news that "This
wasn't... Trump wasn't
running on a platform of unifying our
country.. he wasn't a unity
candidate. This is going to have very, very
deep consequences across
the board for our country."



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy
/sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> they skewed their models hoping the hive
mind of the public would vote for
> their candidate. they overvalued their
influence and undervalued the
> internets reach.
> The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never
trumpers days are numbers, their
> constituents have spoken. America is a
better place without it.
>
> Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more
   

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I guess.
Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia deal. Mauve I
am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code language" or whatever.

I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our Latino
friends think about this?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 7:23 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> And Putin is happy.  Wow
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the  1930s and let's
> Make America White Again theme brought out vote for him.   Many of these
> rural voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part..
> Time will be the judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
> radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves... And make your
> own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> Huh?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>
> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
> the devil you do.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and
> walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the
> door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
> the board for our country."
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
> for
> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
> > internets reach.
> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
> their
> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
> >
> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything
> hes
> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
> > hell of a race
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
> has
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
And Putin is happy.  Wow

On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the  1930s and let's
> Make America White Again theme brought out vote for him.   Many of these
> rural voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part..
> Time will be the judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
> radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves... And make your
> own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Huh?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>>
>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know
>>> over the devil you do.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal
>>>> and walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving
>>>> the door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
>>>> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
>>>> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>>>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>>>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>>>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>>>> the board for our country."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would
>>>> vote for
>>>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>>>> > internets reach.
>>>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>>>> their
>>>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>>>> anything hes
>>>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>>>> independent
>>>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>>>> minute
>>>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>>>> governance.
>>>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to
>>>> be a
>>>> > hell of a race
>>>> >
>>>> > On

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the  1930s and let's
Make America White Again theme brought out vote for him.   Many of these
rural voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part..
Time will be the judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing
radioheads and KKK guys probably came all over themselves... And make your
own tamales.. They will be bland with no flavor.

On Nov 9, 2016 5:11 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Huh?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>
> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
>> the devil you do.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal
>>> and walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving
>>> the door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
>>> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
>>> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>>> the board for our country."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>>> for
>>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>>> > internets reach.
>>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>>> their
>>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>>> >
>>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>>> anything hes
>>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>>> independent
>>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>>> minute
>>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>>> governance.
>>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to
>>> be a
>>> > hell of a race
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their
>>> modeling has
>>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>>> expe

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
A Trump president and republican controlled congress is good for WISPS. I'm
looking forward to the next 5 years where the fixed wireless industry is
expected to double in size and hopefully we see some small business
friendly legislation that will allow us to hire employees and pay less
taxes and get away from this Obamacare nightmare

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Huh?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>
> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
>> the devil you do.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal
>>> and walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving
>>> the door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
>>> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
>>> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>>> the board for our country."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>>> for
>>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>>> > internets reach.
>>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>>> their
>>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>>> >
>>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>>> anything hes
>>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>>> independent
>>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>>> minute
>>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>>> governance.
>>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to
>>> be a
>>> > hell of a race
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their
>>> modeling has
>>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>>> expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> Recreational and medical mariju

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Huh? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:26:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 


Proves one thing... We are NOT united states 


On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over the 
devil you do. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless 


On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and 
walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the door 
open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do another 180. 
This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the reality sets in 
that they may have really fu**ed up 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the right. 
Is populist = = bad? Maybe not. 




On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 


Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't 
running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity 
candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across 
the board for our country." 



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
< thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote for 
> their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the 
> internets reach. 
> The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers, their 
> constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it. 
> 
> Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything hes 
> so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent 
> race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute 
> hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance. 
> Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a 
> hell of a race 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 
> wrote: 
>> 
>> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the 
>> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the 
>> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling has 
>> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected. 
>> 
>> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well. 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > 
>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since 
>>> 1984 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying 
>>>> "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and it 
>>>> was 
>>>> filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't know 
>>>> what Trump's policies would be if elected as President". 
>>>> 
>>>> This is a fascinating election. 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson < c...@infowest.com > 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We’re up quite a bit. Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams 
>>>>> are up as well. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>>>> < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> they can be the beta testers for the walls 
>>>>> 
>>>>> suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i 
>>>>> expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre 
>>>>> watching on satellite or already ate their bullets 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup < geo...@cbcast.com > 
>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have a cobwebs to attend tomorrow. Still doing that. I also have to buy a
light bulb. Doing that as well. Life will go on.

I didn't vote for Obama but after the election I said I hoped he did such a
great job I would vote for him the next time. I hope the same for the
orange haired wizard. I hope we ask are doing so great we can't help but to
vote for him. I hope he at least manages to do something about the VA as
they deserve it.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 2:44 AM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 2:32 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> because we have a fu**ed up political system that has been spiraling out
> of control. the DNC cheated the guy who could have beat him out of the
> nomination
>
> give the guy a chance, quit getting your info from the news, listen to his
> actual statements, he said hes going to unify us whether we want to or not,
> how can you not give that a chance.
>
> The media by the way is actually saying the words: economies all over the
> world have collapsed as a result of the outcome of this election,  nothing
> suspect about that kind of reporting
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Brett A Mansfield <
> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>
> I keep hoping that I'm going to wake up to find I've been in a coma or
> sleeping and having the worst nightmare imaginable. How the hell did Trump
> not only become the nominee, but actually won the presidency. This moron
> that I used to make fun of on reality TV is now the President Elect??? WTF?
>
> But I'd have a similar thought if Hillary won.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Nov 9, 2016, at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> trump actually looks fearful, a mix of WTF and im about to get shot
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Robert  wrote:
>
> The interesting thing is how well Michael Moore nailed it two-three months
> ago...Nobody wanted to listen to him, but all 5 points are what got
> executed on.
>
>
> http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
>
>
> On 11/8/16 10:17 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Huh...well Jamie. I can only day that thank God this nation is more than
> just one elected official. No matter who wins I am convinced we will
> survive it.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 12:15 AM That One Guy /sarcasm
> > wrote:
>
> lol, the "rape" allegations were rescinded, for the third time now.
> Youll come around, hes potentially got 4 years to grow on you. Once
> you see the people you know who are undocumented coming back through
> the wall and being able to actually have a life in the US, youll
> soften. Hell, we will have so many mexicans by the time hes done
> mexico will be begging them to come back cause all they have left
> are the rapists trump kicked out. But we wont let them go, because
> we will have the best tamales
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza
> > wrote:
>
> Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or
> Bill Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at
> daughters are a piece of shit... So what happens now, with
> lawsuits against him?  And rape hearing in December?   I tired
> of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> >
> wrote:
>
> either result would have proven that
>
> I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in
> the WISP industry for 4 more years just to come back and see
> youre VOTE TRUMP tagline Jaime. I think once the dust
> settles and the media bias subsides, youll see the candidate
> in a different light, and over the next 4 years the crow
> will become a gourmet meal.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza
>  > wrote:
>
> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
>  > wrote:
>
> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the
> devil you don't know over the devil you do.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
> >
> wrote:
>
> Just watching the fear on those people's faces
> is priceless
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Mathew Howard
+1

On Nov 9, 2016 2:32 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> because we have a fu**ed up political system that has been spiraling out
> of control. the DNC cheated the guy who could have beat him out of the
> nomination
>
> give the guy a chance, quit getting your info from the news, listen to his
> actual statements, he said hes going to unify us whether we want to or not,
> how can you not give that a chance.
>
> The media by the way is actually saying the words: economies all over the
> world have collapsed as a result of the outcome of this election,  nothing
> suspect about that kind of reporting
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Brett A Mansfield <
> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> I keep hoping that I'm going to wake up to find I've been in a coma or
>> sleeping and having the worst nightmare imaginable. How the hell did Trump
>> not only become the nominee, but actually won the presidency. This moron
>> that I used to make fun of on reality TV is now the President Elect??? WTF?
>>
>> But I'd have a similar thought if Hillary won.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> trump actually looks fearful, a mix of WTF and im about to get shot
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Robert  wrote:
>>
>>> The interesting thing is how well Michael Moore nailed it two-three
>>> months ago...Nobody wanted to listen to him, but all 5 points are what
>>> got executed on.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/8/16 10:17 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
 Huh...well Jamie. I can only day that thank God this nation is more than
 just one elected official. No matter who wins I am convinced we will
 survive it.


 On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 12:15 AM That One Guy /sarcasm
 > wrote:

 lol, the "rape" allegations were rescinded, for the third time now.
 Youll come around, hes potentially got 4 years to grow on you. Once
 you see the people you know who are undocumented coming back through
 the wall and being able to actually have a life in the US, youll
 soften. Hell, we will have so many mexicans by the time hes done
 mexico will be begging them to come back cause all they have left
 are the rapists trump kicked out. But we wont let them go, because
 we will have the best tamales

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza
 >
 wrote:

 Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or
 Bill Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at
 daughters are a piece of shit... So what happens now, with
 lawsuits against him?  And rape hearing in December?   I tired
 of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump


 On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
 >
 wrote:

 either result would have proven that

 I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in
 the WISP industry for 4 more years just to come back and see
 youre VOTE TRUMP tagline Jaime. I think once the dust
 settles and the media bias subsides, youll see the candidate
 in a different light, and over the next 4 years the crow
 will become a gourmet meal.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza
 > wrote:

 Proves one thing... We are NOT united states


 On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
 > wrote:

 I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the
 devil you don't know over the devil you do.


 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
 >
 wrote:

 Just watching the fear on those people's faces
 is priceless


 On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
 > wrote:

 oh, this is so funny to watch, the media
 folks are trying to backpedal and walkback
   

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
because we have a fu**ed up political system that has been spiraling out of
control. the DNC cheated the guy who could have beat him out of the
nomination

give the guy a chance, quit getting your info from the news, listen to his
actual statements, he said hes going to unify us whether we want to or not,
how can you not give that a chance.

The media by the way is actually saying the words: economies all over the
world have collapsed as a result of the outcome of this election,  nothing
suspect about that kind of reporting

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Brett A Mansfield <
li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:

> I keep hoping that I'm going to wake up to find I've been in a coma or
> sleeping and having the worst nightmare imaginable. How the hell did Trump
> not only become the nominee, but actually won the presidency. This moron
> that I used to make fun of on reality TV is now the President Elect??? WTF?
>
> But I'd have a similar thought if Hillary won.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Nov 9, 2016, at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> trump actually looks fearful, a mix of WTF and im about to get shot
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Robert  wrote:
>
>> The interesting thing is how well Michael Moore nailed it two-three
>> months ago...Nobody wanted to listen to him, but all 5 points are what
>> got executed on.
>>
>>
>> http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
>>
>>
>> On 11/8/16 10:17 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>>> Huh...well Jamie. I can only day that thank God this nation is more than
>>> just one elected official. No matter who wins I am convinced we will
>>> survive it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 12:15 AM That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> lol, the "rape" allegations were rescinded, for the third time now.
>>> Youll come around, hes potentially got 4 years to grow on you. Once
>>> you see the people you know who are undocumented coming back through
>>> the wall and being able to actually have a life in the US, youll
>>> soften. Hell, we will have so many mexicans by the time hes done
>>> mexico will be begging them to come back cause all they have left
>>> are the rapists trump kicked out. But we wont let them go, because
>>> we will have the best tamales
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or
>>> Bill Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at
>>> daughters are a piece of shit... So what happens now, with
>>> lawsuits against him?  And rape hearing in December?   I tired
>>> of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> either result would have proven that
>>>
>>> I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in
>>> the WISP industry for 4 more years just to come back and see
>>> youre VOTE TRUMP tagline Jaime. I think once the dust
>>> settles and the media bias subsides, youll see the candidate
>>> in a different light, and over the next 4 years the crow
>>> will become a gourmet meal.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the
>>> devil you don't know over the devil you do.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces
>>> is priceless
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media
>>> folks are trying to backpedal and walkback
>>> all the nonsense theyve pulled this year,
>>> but theyre leaving the door open to not go
>>> too far if hillary still flips its so they
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I keep hoping that I'm going to wake up to find I've been in a coma or sleeping 
and having the worst nightmare imaginable. How the hell did Trump not only 
become the nominee, but actually won the presidency. This moron that I used to 
make fun of on reality TV is now the President Elect??? WTF? 

But I'd have a similar thought if Hillary won.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>  wrote:
> 
> trump actually looks fearful, a mix of WTF and im about to get shot
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Robert  wrote:
>> The interesting thing is how well Michael Moore nailed it two-three months 
>> ago...Nobody wanted to listen to him, but all 5 points are what got 
>> executed on.
>> 
>> 
>> http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/8/16 10:17 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>> Huh...well Jamie. I can only day that thank God this nation is more than
>>> just one elected official. No matter who wins I am convinced we will
>>> survive it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 12:15 AM That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> lol, the "rape" allegations were rescinded, for the third time now.
>>> Youll come around, hes potentially got 4 years to grow on you. Once
>>> you see the people you know who are undocumented coming back through
>>> the wall and being able to actually have a life in the US, youll
>>> soften. Hell, we will have so many mexicans by the time hes done
>>> mexico will be begging them to come back cause all they have left
>>> are the rapists trump kicked out. But we wont let them go, because
>>> we will have the best tamales
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or
>>> Bill Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at
>>> daughters are a piece of shit... So what happens now, with
>>> lawsuits against him?  And rape hearing in December?   I tired
>>> of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> either result would have proven that
>>> 
>>> I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in
>>> the WISP industry for 4 more years just to come back and see
>>> youre VOTE TRUMP tagline Jaime. I think once the dust
>>> settles and the media bias subsides, youll see the candidate
>>> in a different light, and over the next 4 years the crow
>>> will become a gourmet meal.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the
>>> devil you don't know over the devil you do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces
>>> is priceless
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media
>>> folks are trying to backpedal and walkback
>>> all the nonsense theyve pulled this year,
>>> but theyre leaving the door open to not go
>>> too far if hillary still flips its so they
>>> can do another 180. This is probably the
>>> best thing to watch of the night as the
>>> reality sets in that they may have really
>>> fu**ed up
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis
>>> Bergman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The whole "populist" candidate
>>> thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>>>  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
trump actually looks fearful, a mix of WTF and im about to get shot

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Robert  wrote:

> The interesting thing is how well Michael Moore nailed it two-three months
> ago...Nobody wanted to listen to him, but all 5 points are what got
> executed on.
>
>
> http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
>
>
> On 11/8/16 10:17 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
>> Huh...well Jamie. I can only day that thank God this nation is more than
>> just one elected official. No matter who wins I am convinced we will
>> survive it.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 12:15 AM That One Guy /sarcasm
>> > wrote:
>>
>> lol, the "rape" allegations were rescinded, for the third time now.
>> Youll come around, hes potentially got 4 years to grow on you. Once
>> you see the people you know who are undocumented coming back through
>> the wall and being able to actually have a life in the US, youll
>> soften. Hell, we will have so many mexicans by the time hes done
>> mexico will be begging them to come back cause all they have left
>> are the rapists trump kicked out. But we wont let them go, because
>> we will have the best tamales
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or
>> Bill Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at
>> daughters are a piece of shit... So what happens now, with
>> lawsuits against him?  And rape hearing in December?   I tired
>> of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump
>>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> either result would have proven that
>>
>> I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in
>> the WISP industry for 4 more years just to come back and see
>> youre VOTE TRUMP tagline Jaime. I think once the dust
>> settles and the media bias subsides, youll see the candidate
>> in a different light, and over the next 4 years the crow
>> will become a gourmet meal.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the
>> devil you don't know over the devil you do.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces
>> is priceless
>>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media
>> folks are trying to backpedal and walkback
>> all the nonsense theyve pulled this year,
>> but theyre leaving the door open to not go
>> too far if hillary still flips its so they
>> can do another 180. This is probably the
>> best thing to watch of the night as the
>> reality sets in that they may have really
>> fu**ed up
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis
>> Bergman > > wrote:
>>
>> The whole "populist" candidate
>> thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh
>> Reynolds > > wrote:
>>
>> Somebody mentioned on the news that
>> "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>> running on a platform of unifying
>> our country.. he wasn't a unity
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Robert
The interesting thing is how well Michael Moore nailed it two-three 
months ago...Nobody wanted to listen to him, but all 5 points are 
what got executed on.



http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/


On 11/8/16 10:17 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Huh...well Jamie. I can only day that thank God this nation is more than
just one elected official. No matter who wins I am convinced we will
survive it.


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 12:15 AM That One Guy /sarcasm
> wrote:

lol, the "rape" allegations were rescinded, for the third time now.
Youll come around, hes potentially got 4 years to grow on you. Once
you see the people you know who are undocumented coming back through
the wall and being able to actually have a life in the US, youll
soften. Hell, we will have so many mexicans by the time hes done
mexico will be begging them to come back cause all they have left
are the rapists trump kicked out. But we wont let them go, because
we will have the best tamales

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or
Bill Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at
daughters are a piece of shit... So what happens now, with
lawsuits against him?  And rape hearing in December?   I tired
of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump


On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>
wrote:

either result would have proven that

I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in
the WISP industry for 4 more years just to come back and see
youre VOTE TRUMP tagline Jaime. I think once the dust
settles and the media bias subsides, youll see the candidate
in a different light, and over the next 4 years the crow
will become a gourmet meal.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

Proves one thing... We are NOT united states


On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
> wrote:

I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the
devil you don't know over the devil you do.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard
>
wrote:

Just watching the fear on those people's faces
is priceless


On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> wrote:

oh, this is so funny to watch, the media
folks are trying to backpedal and walkback
all the nonsense theyve pulled this year,
but theyre leaving the door open to not go
too far if hillary still flips its so they
can do another 180. This is probably the
best thing to watch of the night as the
reality sets in that they may have really
fu**ed up

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis
Bergman > wrote:

The whole "populist" candidate
thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh
Reynolds > wrote:

Somebody mentioned on the news that
"This wasn't... Trump wasn't
running on a platform of unifying
our country.. he wasn't a unity
candidate. This is going to have
very, very deep consequences across
the board for our country."



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM,
That One Guy /sarcasm


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
Huh...well Jamie. I can only day that thank God this nation is more than
just one elected official. No matter who wins I am convinced we will
survive it.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 12:15 AM That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> lol, the "rape" allegations were rescinded, for the third time now.
> Youll come around, hes potentially got 4 years to grow on you. Once you
> see the people you know who are undocumented coming back through the wall
> and being able to actually have a life in the US, youll soften. Hell, we
> will have so many mexicans by the time hes done mexico will be begging them
> to come back cause all they have left are the rapists trump kicked out. But
> we wont let them go, because we will have the best tamales
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or Bill
> Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at daughters are a
> piece of shit... So what happens now, with lawsuits against him?  And rape
> hearing in December?   I tired of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> either result would have proven that
>
> I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in the WISP
> industry for 4 more years just to come back and see youre VOTE TRUMP
> tagline Jaime. I think once the dust settles and the media bias subsides,
> youll see the candidate in a different light, and over the next 4 years the
> crow will become a gourmet meal.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
> the devil you do.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and
> walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the
> door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
> the board for our country."
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
> for
> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
> > internets reach.
> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
> their
> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
> >
> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything
> hes
> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
> > hell of a race
>
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
> has
> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.
> >>
> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
> >>> 1984
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
> 
>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
> it was
>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
> know
>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
> 
>  This is a fascinating election.
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
lol, the "rape" allegations were rescinded, for the third time now.
Youll come around, hes potentially got 4 years to grow on you. Once you see
the people you know who are undocumented coming back through the wall and
being able to actually have a life in the US, youll soften. Hell, we will
have so many mexicans by the time hes done mexico will be begging them to
come back cause all they have left are the rapists trump kicked out. But we
wont let them go, because we will have the best tamales

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or Bill
> Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at daughters are a
> piece of shit... So what happens now, with lawsuits against him?  And rape
> hearing in December?   I tired of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> either result would have proven that
>
> I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in the WISP
> industry for 4 more years just to come back and see youre VOTE TRUMP
> tagline Jaime. I think once the dust settles and the media bias subsides,
> youll see the candidate in a different light, and over the next 4 years the
> crow will become a gourmet meal.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know
>>> over the devil you do.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless

 On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal
 and walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving
 the door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
 another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
 reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

 The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
 right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

 Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
 running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
 candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
 the board for our country."



 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
  wrote:
 > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would
 vote for
 > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
 > internets reach.
 > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
 their
 > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
 >
 > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
 anything hes
 > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
 independent
 > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
 minute
 > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
 governance.
 > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to
 be a
 > hell of a race

 >
 > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:
 >>
 >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been
 the
 >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of
 the
 >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their
 modeling has
 >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
 expected.
 >>
 >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
 >>
 >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
 >> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here
 since
 >>> 1984
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
 wrote:
 
  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is
 saying
  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel,
 and it was
  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really
 don't know
  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
 
  This is 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or Bill
Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who gawk at daughters are a
piece of shit... So what happens now, with lawsuits against him?  And rape
hearing in December?   I tired of this whole thing... Oh yes BTW Fuck Trump

On Nov 8, 2016 10:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

either result would have proven that

I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in the WISP
industry for 4 more years just to come back and see youre VOTE TRUMP
tagline Jaime. I think once the dust settles and the media bias subsides,
youll see the candidate in a different light, and over the next 4 years the
crow will become a gourmet meal.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
>> the devil you do.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>>
>>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal
>>> and walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving
>>> the door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
>>> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
>>> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>>> the board for our country."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>  wrote:
>>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>>> for
>>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>>> > internets reach.
>>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>>> their
>>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>>> >
>>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>>> anything hes
>>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>>> independent
>>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>>> minute
>>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>>> governance.
>>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to
>>> be a
>>> > hell of a race
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their
>>> modeling has
>>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>>> expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here
>>> since
>>> >>> 1984
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is
>>> saying
>>>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel,
>>> and it was
>>>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
>>> know
>>>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>>> 
>>>  This is a fascinating election.
>>> 
>>>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <
>>> c...@infowest.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams.
>>> Upstreams
>>> > are up as well.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
>>> >
>>> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>>> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe
>>> theyre
>>> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
either result would have proven that

I will say this though, Ill do my best if he wins to stay in the WISP
industry for 4 more years just to come back and see youre VOTE TRUMP
tagline Jaime. I think once the dust settles and the media bias subsides,
youll see the candidate in a different light, and over the next 4 years the
crow will become a gourmet meal.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Proves one thing... We are NOT united states
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
>> the devil you do.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>>
>>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal
>>> and walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving
>>> the door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
>>> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
>>> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>>> the board for our country."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>  wrote:
>>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>>> for
>>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>>> > internets reach.
>>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>>> their
>>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>>> >
>>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>>> anything hes
>>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>>> independent
>>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>>> minute
>>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>>> governance.
>>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to
>>> be a
>>> > hell of a race
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their
>>> modeling has
>>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>>> expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here
>>> since
>>> >>> 1984
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is
>>> saying
>>>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel,
>>> and it was
>>>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
>>> know
>>>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>>> 
>>>  This is a fascinating election.
>>> 
>>>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <
>>> c...@infowest.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams.
>>> Upstreams
>>> > are up as well.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
>>> >
>>> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>>> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe
>>> theyre
>>> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then
>>> Cook
>>> >> County.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood
>>> than
>>> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>>> >>
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
who I feel bad for the most after tonight if he pulls it off is the secret
service. I cant see a scenario where he wont get shot at before January

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
> the devil you do.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal
>> and walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving
>> the door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
>> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
>> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>> the board for our country."
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>> for
>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>> > internets reach.
>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>> their
>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>> >
>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>> anything hes
>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>> independent
>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>> minute
>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>> governance.
>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be
>> a
>> > hell of a race
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
>> has
>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>> expected.
>> >>
>> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
>> >>> 1984
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
>> it was
>>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
>> know
>>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>> 
>>  This is a fascinating election.
>> 
>>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson > >
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams.
>> Upstreams
>> > are up as well.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
>> >
>> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
>> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
>> >> County.
>> >>
>> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood
>> than
>> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
>> >>> crime rate alone?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>>  WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>>  71%.
>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Proves one thing... We are NOT united states

On Nov 8, 2016 10:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
> the devil you do.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal
>> and walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving
>> the door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
>> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
>> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>> the board for our country."
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>> for
>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>> > internets reach.
>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>> their
>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>> >
>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>> anything hes
>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>> independent
>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>> minute
>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>> governance.
>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be
>> a
>> > hell of a race
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
>> has
>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>> expected.
>> >>
>> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
>> >>> 1984
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
>> it was
>>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
>> know
>>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>> 
>>  This is a fascinating election.
>> 
>>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson > >
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams.
>> Upstreams
>> > are up as well.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
>> >
>> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
>> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
>> >> County.
>> >>
>> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood
>> than
>> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
>> >>> crime rate alone?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>>  WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>>  71%.
>> 
>> 
>>  On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" > >
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
I guess this proves sometimes people prefer the devil you don't know over
the devil you do.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:20 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and
> walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the
> door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
> the board for our country."
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
> for
> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
> > internets reach.
> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
> their
> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
> >
> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything
> hes
> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
> > hell of a race
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
> has
> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.
> >>
> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
> >>> 1984
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
> 
>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
> it was
>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
> know
>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
> 
>  This is a fascinating election.
> 
>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
>  wrote:
> >
> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
> > are up as well.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> >  wrote:
> >
> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
> >
> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
> >> County.
> >>
> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> >>
> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than
> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
> >>> crime rate alone?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>  71%.
> 
> 
>  On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > George is right. My write in might win.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This
> >> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Just watching the fear on those people's faces is priceless

On Nov 8, 2016 11:12 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and
> walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the
> door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
> another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
> reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>>> the board for our country."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>  wrote:
>>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>>> for
>>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>>> > internets reach.
>>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>>> their
>>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>>> >
>>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>>> anything hes
>>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>>> independent
>>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>>> minute
>>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>>> governance.
>>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to
>>> be a
>>> > hell of a race
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their
>>> modeling has
>>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>>> expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here
>>> since
>>> >>> 1984
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is
>>> saying
>>>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel,
>>> and it was
>>>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
>>> know
>>>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>>> 
>>>  This is a fascinating election.
>>> 
>>>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <
>>> c...@infowest.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams.
>>> Upstreams
>>> > are up as well.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
>>> >
>>> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>>> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe
>>> theyre
>>> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then
>>> Cook
>>> >> County.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood
>>> than
>>> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> >>  wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
>>> >>> crime rate alone?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>>>  71%.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <
>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > George is right. My write in might win.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
>>> >  wrote:
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
I wonder how many movies will be made about this. You really don't need a
writer...you couldn't write this stuff.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:15 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

>
> ​
> ​^ This is the crazy part. Clinton may very well win the popular vote once
> California votes finish coming in.​
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:12 PM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
>
> My distaste for both candidates is well known for those the know me but I
> have a sense of  "oh my God, what have I done".
>
>
> Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
> the board for our country."
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
>
> they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote for
> their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
> internets reach.
> The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers, their
> constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>
> Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything
> hes
> so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
> race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
> hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
> Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
> hell of a race
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling has
> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.
>
> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
> 1984
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
> Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
> "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and it was
> filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't know
> what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>
> This is a fascinating election.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
> wrote:
>
> We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
> are up as well.
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
>
> they can be the beta testers for the walls
>
> suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
> expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
> watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
> County.
>
> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than
> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
>
> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
> crime rate alone?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
> 71%.
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
> wrote:
>
> George is right. My write in might win.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
>  wrote:
>
> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This
> whole thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier
> than popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud
> passes.
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>
> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand
> by her word to accept the results
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman
>  wrote:
>
> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
>
> by now i expected a clinton lead
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
​
​^ This is the crazy part. Clinton may very well win the popular vote once
California votes finish coming in.​


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:12 PM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> My distaste for both candidates is well known for those the know me but I
> have a sense of  "oh my God, what have I done".
>
>
> Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>> the board for our country."
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>>> for
>>> their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>>> internets reach.
>>> The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>>> their
>>> constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>>>
>>> Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything
>>> hes
>>> so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
>>> race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
>>> hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
>>> Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
>>> hell of a race
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
 first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
 century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
 has
 been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.

 Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
> 1984
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>> Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>> "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
>> it was
>> filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
>> know
>> what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>>
>> This is a fascinating election.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
>>> are up as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> they can be the beta testers for the walls
>>>
>>> suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>>> expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
>>> watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
 County.

 On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

 I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than
 DC. it was set apart for a reason.


 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
  wrote:

> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
> crime rate alone?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>> 71%.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> George is right. My write in might win.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This
 whole thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only
 thing scarier
 than popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are
 in.


 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds <
 j...@kyneticwifi.com>
 wrote:

 Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud
 passes.


 On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup" 
 wrote:

 I'm 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Jay Weekley
My distaste for both candidates is well known for those the know me but 
I have a sense of  "oh my God, what have I done".


Josh Reynolds wrote:

Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
the board for our country."



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:

they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote for
their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
internets reach.
The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers, their
constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.

Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything hes
so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
hell of a race

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling has
been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.

Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
1984


On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
"The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and it was
filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't know
what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".

This is a fascinating election.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
wrote:

We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
are up as well.


On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:

they can be the beta testers for the walls

suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
watching on satellite or already ate their bullets

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
County.

On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than
DC. it was set apart for a reason.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:

thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
crime rate alone?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
wrote:

WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
71%.


On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
wrote:

George is right. My write in might win.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
 wrote:

If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This
whole thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier
than popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds 
wrote:

Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud
passes.


On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.

On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand
by her word to accept the results


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman
 wrote:

Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:

by now i expected a clinton lead

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard
 wrote:

What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...


On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
 wrote:

what the hell is going on in ohio?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:

They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...


On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
wrote:

Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:

trump is pulling forward there now.
If texas went to hillary its a given the race will 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
She will lose PA. Trump pulled ahead there 48.3 there to Clinton's
48.2, and the rest of the votes are normally red areas. If Trump wins
PA, he will win the Presidency.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
> OMG within 5000 votes of taking PA. I can't believe she is that close to
> losing PA. Damn...those factory workers must be pissed.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:07 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:
>>
>> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
>> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>>
>>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>>> the board for our country."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>  wrote:
>>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>>> > for
>>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>>> > internets reach.
>>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>>> > their
>>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>>> >
>>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>>> > anything hes
>>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>>> > independent
>>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>>> > minute
>>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>>> > governance.
>>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be
>>> > a
>>> > hell of a race
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
>>> >> has
>>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>>> >> expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here
>>> >>> since
>>> >>> 1984
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is
>>>  saying
>>>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
>>>  it was
>>>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
>>>  know
>>>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>>> 
>>>  This is a fascinating election.
>>> 
>>>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson
>>>  
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams.
>>> > Upstreams
>>> > are up as well.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
>>> >
>>> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>>> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe
>>> > theyre
>>> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then
>>> >> Cook
>>> >> County.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood
>>> >> than
>>> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> >>  wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
>>> >>> crime rate alone?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>>>  71%.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
>>>  
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > George is right. My write in might win.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
oh, this is so funny to watch, the media folks are trying to backpedal and
walkback all the nonsense theyve pulled this year, but theyre leaving the
door open to not go too far if hillary still flips its so they can do
another 180. This is probably the best thing to watch of the night as the
reality sets in that they may have really fu**ed up

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>> the board for our country."
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>> for
>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>> > internets reach.
>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>> their
>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>> >
>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than
>> anything hes
>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>> independent
>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>> minute
>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>> governance.
>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be
>> a
>> > hell of a race
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
>> has
>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>> expected.
>> >>
>> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
>> >>> 1984
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
>> it was
>>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
>> know
>>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>> 
>>  This is a fascinating election.
>> 
>>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson > >
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams.
>> Upstreams
>> > are up as well.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
>> >
>> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
>> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
>> >> County.
>> >>
>> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood
>> than
>> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
>> >>> crime rate alone?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>>  WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>>  71%.
>> 
>> 
>>  On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" > >
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > George is right. My write in might win.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This
>> >> whole thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only
>> thing scarier
>> >> than popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are
>> in.
>> >>
>> >>
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
People are scrambling to do the math. It's very possible that Trump
wins the electoral college and loses the popular vote once the numbers
from California come in.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
>> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
>> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
>> the board for our country."
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>
>>  wrote:
>> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
>> > for
>> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
>> > internets reach.
>> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
>> > their
>> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>> >
>> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything
>> > hes
>> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
>> > independent
>> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last
>> > minute
>> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
>> > governance.
>> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be
>> > a
>> > hell of a race
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
>> >> has
>> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them
>> >> expected.
>> >>
>> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
>> >>> 1984
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>> 
>>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
>>  it was
>>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
>>  know
>>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>> 
>>  This is a fascinating election.
>> 
>>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams.
>> > Upstreams
>> > are up as well.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
>> >
>> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
>> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
>> >> County.
>> >>
>> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood
>> >> than
>> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
>> >>> crime rate alone?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds
>> >>> 
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>>  WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>>  71%.
>> 
>> 
>>  On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > George is right. My write in might win.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This
>> >> whole thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only
>> >> thing scarier
>> >> than popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are
>> >> in.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
OMG within 5000 votes of taking PA. I can't believe she is that close to
losing PA. Damn...those factory workers must be pissed.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:07 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
> right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
> the board for our country."
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
> for
> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
> > internets reach.
> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
> their
> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
> >
> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything
> hes
> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
> > hell of a race
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
> has
> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.
> >>
> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
> >>> 1984
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
> 
>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
> it was
>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
> know
>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
> 
>  This is a fascinating election.
> 
>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
>  wrote:
> >
> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
> > are up as well.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> >  wrote:
> >
> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
> >
> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
> >> County.
> >>
> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> >>
> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than
> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
> >>> crime rate alone?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>  71%.
> 
> 
>  On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > George is right. My write in might win.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This
> >> whole thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only
> thing scarier
> >> than popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are
> in.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud
> >> passes.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm staying in the basement with 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
The whole "populist" candidate thing...Bernie on the left, Trump on the
right. Is populist = = bad? Maybe not.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:01 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
> running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
> candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
> the board for our country."
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
> > they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote
> for
> > their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
> > internets reach.
> > The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers,
> their
> > constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
> >
> > Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything
> hes
> > so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
> > race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
> > hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
> > Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
> > hell of a race
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
> >> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
> >> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling
> has
> >> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.
> >>
> >> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
> >>> 1984
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
> 
>  Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>  "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and
> it was
>  filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't
> know
>  what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
> 
>  This is a fascinating election.
> 
>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
>  wrote:
> >
> > We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
> > are up as well.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> >  wrote:
> >
> > they can be the beta testers for the walls
> >
> > suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
> > expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
> > watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
> >> County.
> >>
> >> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> >>
> >> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than
> >> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
> >>> crime rate alone?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
>  71%.
> 
> 
>  On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > George is right. My write in might win.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This
> >> whole thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only
> thing scarier
> >> than popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are
> in.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud
> >> passes.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
> >>
> >> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> >>
> >> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will
> stand
> >> by 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Somebody mentioned on the news that "This wasn't... Trump wasn't
running on a platform of unifying our country.. he wasn't a unity
candidate. This is going to have very, very deep consequences across
the board for our country."



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:
> they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote for
> their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
> internets reach.
> The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers, their
> constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.
>
> Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything hes
> so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an independent
> race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a last minute
> hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our governance.
> Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is going to be a
> hell of a race
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
>> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
>> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling has
>> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.
>>
>> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
>>> 1984
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

 Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
 "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and it was
 filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't know
 what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".

 This is a fascinating election.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
 wrote:
>
> We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
> are up as well.
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
>
> they can be the beta testers for the walls
>
> suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
> expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
> watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>>
>> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
>> County.
>>
>> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than
>> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
>>> crime rate alone?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:

 WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by
 71%.


 On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
 wrote:
>
> George is right. My write in might win.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
>  wrote:
>>
>> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This
>> whole thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing 
>> scarier
>> than popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud
>> passes.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>>
>> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>>
>> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand
>> by her word to accept the results
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>>
>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
LMAO

I cant wait for the "if trump wins, im leaving" meme wars tomorrow if he
pulls this off, that alone is going to account for half my day


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
they skewed their models hoping the hive mind of the public would vote for
their candidate. they overvalued their influence and undervalued the
internets reach.
The GOP is dead, thats good, all the never trumpers days are numbers, their
constituents have spoken. America is a better place without it.

Remember, trump isnt a republican, hes more an independent than anything
hes so across the board on the major issues. He could have run an
independent race but would have just split the right. Even if she pulls a
last minute hail mary and wins it, this is a win for the long term of our
governance. Bernie broke the democrats, they just dont know it, 2020 is
going to be a hell of a race

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
> first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
> century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling has
> been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.
>
> Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since
>> 1984
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>
>>> Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>>> "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and it was
>>> filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't know
>>> what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>>>
>>> This is a fascinating election.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
 are up as well.


 On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 they can be the beta testers for the walls

 suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
 expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
 watching on satellite or already ate their bullets

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
> County.
>
> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than
> DC. it was set apart for a reason.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
>> crime rate alone?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>> WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> George is right. My write in might win.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
>> thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier 
>> than
>> popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>>
>> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>>
>> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by
>> her word to accept the results
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman <
>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>>
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
If a Democrat were to have won this Presidency, it would have been the
first 3 consecutive terms since that happened beyond the middle of the
century. The polling people are freaking out, as all of their modeling has
been quite far off. This has been MUCH closer than any of them expected.

Recreational and medical marijuana is growing as well.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since 1984
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>> Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying
>> "The party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and it was
>> filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't know
>> what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>>
>> This is a fascinating election.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
>>> are up as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> they can be the beta testers for the walls
>>>
>>> suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>>> expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
>>> watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>>
 If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
 County.

 On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

 I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than
 DC. it was set apart for a reason.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their crime
> rate alone?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
> wrote:
>
> George is right. My write in might win.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
> thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
> popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>
> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by
> her word to accept the results
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman  > wrote:
>
> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> by now i expected a clinton lead
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
> wrote:
>
> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> trump is pulling forward there now.
> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> always vote! always!
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I voted proudly... That's what count
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
> wrote:
>
> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I
> always vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Mathew Howard
They called Wisconsin for Trump A Republican hasn't won here since 1984

On Nov 8, 2016 10:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> Dow futures down near 700 points. GOP commentator on the tv is saying "The
> party of Regan is dead. The GOP had become an empty vessel, and it was
> filled up with Trumpish. NATO partners are nervous. We really don't know
> what Trump's policies would be if elected as President".
>
> This is a fascinating election.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
> wrote:
>
>> We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams
>> are up as well.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> they can be the beta testers for the walls
>>
>> suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i
>> expected alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre
>> watching on satellite or already ate their bullets
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook
>>> County.
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than DC.
>>> it was set apart for a reason.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their crime
 rate alone?

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

 WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.

 On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
 wrote:

 George is right. My write in might win.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

 If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
 thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
 popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

 Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.

 On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

 I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.

 On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by
 her word to accept the results


 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

 Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 by now i expected a clinton lead

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

 What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...

 On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 what the hell is going on in ohio?

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...

 On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
 wrote:

 Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 trump is pulling forward there now.
 If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT

 On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 always vote! always!

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I voted proudly... That's what count

 On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
 wrote:

 Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I
 always vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there
 are so many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.

 I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up.
 We might get some appreciation.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

 Damn.  Eric and I are dumb

 On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
 [image: Inline image 1]

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Nathan Anderson
Shockingly we are not seeing much of a change in average usage one way or the 
other.  I expected to be up as well.

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 8:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

We’re up quite a bit.  Lots of Google/Akamai cache streams. Upstreams are up as 
well.



On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

they can be the beta testers for the walls

suprisingly my network is down right now about 40 percent usage, i expected 
alot of peope would be streaming the election, maybe theyre watching on 
satellite or already ate their bullets

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM, George Skorup 
<geo...@cbcast.com<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook County.
On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than DC. it was 
set apart for a reason.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their crime rate 
alone?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.

On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

George is right. My write in might win.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole thing is 
another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than popular vote 
determination is the convoluted crap we are in.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.

On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup" 
<geo...@cbcast.com<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her word 
to accept the results

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
by now i expected a clinton lead

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...

On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
what the hell is going on in ohio?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...

On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
trump is pulling forward there now.
If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT

On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
always vote! always!

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I voted proudly... That's what count

On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always vote 
but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so many die 
hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.

I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We might 
get some appreciation.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Damn.  Eric and I are dumb

On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<thatonegu

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Jay Weekley

Pull America out of Washington.  Democracy is a lost cause there.

George Skorup wrote:
If there was ever a place to wall off, start with DC. And then Cook 
County.


On 11/8/2016 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:


I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than 
DC. it was set apart for a reason.



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm 
> wrote:


thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their
crime rate alone?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood
by 71%.


On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
> wrote:

George is right. My write in might win.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman
> wrote:

If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is
right. This whole thing is another exampleof the
electoral mess. The only thing scarier than popular
vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds
>
wrote:

Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the
toxic cloud passes.


On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"
> wrote:

I'm staying in the basement with my 870
loaded until dawn.

On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
wrote:


i want trump to pull california, just to see
if clinton will stand by her word to accept
the results




On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis
Bergman > wrote:

Come on, they could have called Texas 2
years ago.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One
Guy /sarcasm > wrote:

by now i expected a clinton lead

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM,
Mathew Howard > wrote:

What's wrong with Ohio? Looks
fine to me...


On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That
One Guy /sarcasm"
>
wrote:

what the hell is going on in
ohio?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09
PM, Jaime Solorza
>
wrote:

They are calling
Texas Wow.   People
still in line here...


On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM,
"Lewis Bergman"
>
wrote:

Yea. Nobody would
believe it, nor
should they.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016,
7:55 PM That One Guy
/sarcasm
>
wrote:

trump is pulling
forward 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
I forgot about American Samoa!

Agreed. DC should stay a separate entity.

On Nov 8, 2016 9:27 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than DC.
> it was set apart for a reason.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their crime
>> rate alone?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>> WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>> George is right. My write in might win.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
>> thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
>> popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>>
>> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>>
>> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
>> word to accept the results
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> trump is pulling forward there now.
>> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> always vote! always!
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I voted proudly... That's what count
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
>> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
>> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>>
>> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
>> might get some appreciation.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
>> lackeys
>> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
>> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
>> "certain group"!.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>
>> It could happen...
>>
>> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque
>> De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
>> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>> ...


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
I would rather see American Samoa and Puerto Rico get statehood than DC. it
was set apart for a reason.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:22 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their crime
> rate alone?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> George is right. My write in might win.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
> thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
> popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>
> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
> word to accept the results
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> by now i expected a clinton lead
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> trump is pulling forward there now.
> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> always vote! always!
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> I voted proudly... That's what count
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>
> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
> might get some appreciation.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
> lackeys
> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
> "certain group"!.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>
> It could happen...
>
> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque
> De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/senate
this map has been updating pretty well

any better maps there? I like this one because you can drill down to
counties

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their crime
> rate alone?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>>> George is right. My write in might win.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
 thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
 popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

 Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.

 On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

 I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.

 On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by
 her word to accept the results


 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

 Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 by now i expected a clinton lead

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

 What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...

 On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 what the hell is going on in ohio?

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...

 On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
 wrote:

 Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 trump is pulling forward there now.
 If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT

 On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 always vote! always!

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I voted proudly... That's what count

 On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
 wrote:

 Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I
 always vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there
 are so many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.

 I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up.
 We might get some appreciation.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

 Damn.  Eric and I are dumb

 On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
 [image: Inline image 1]

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
 lackeys
 just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
 numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
 "certain group"!.

 On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

 It could happen...

 Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky
 Roque De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
 impressive name of any of the candidates.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
thats should be interesting, are they going to petition on their crime rate
alone?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> George is right. My write in might win.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
>>> thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
>>> popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>>
>>> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by
>>> her word to accept the results
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> trump is pulling forward there now.
>>> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> always vote! always!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I voted proudly... That's what count
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
>>> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
>>> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>>>
>>> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
>>> might get some appreciation.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
>>> lackeys
>>> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
>>> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
>>> "certain group"!.
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>>
>>> It could happen...
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky
>>> Roque De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
>>> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Per Google's classification of swing states, Trump has a 50 point lead. 




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From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 8:41:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 


Vigo County, IN has picked the Presidential winner 30 out of the last 32 
elections, including every one since 1952. Currently Vigo County (home of 
Joink) is 56.2% Trump and 39.4% Hillary with Johnson at 4.4%. That's at 67 out 
of 89 precincts reporting. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Tushar Patel" <tpa...@ecpi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 4:25:08 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 

Anybody interested in the early reporting on the results check following 
article and for results minute by minute go to website listed 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/us/politics/election-results-voting.html 

http://votecastr.us/ 

Tushar 






Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
US Virgin Islands

Also, here: https://www.reddit.com/live/xw7hncgk1gi7

(This is one of the reasons I love reddit)

On Nov 8, 2016 9:15 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> E, 53, not 53%.
>
>
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> --------------
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 8, 2016 9:13:46 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>
> WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> George is right. My write in might win.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
>>> thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
>>> popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by
>>> her word to accept the results
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> trump is pulling forward there now.
>>> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> always vote! always!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I voted proudly... That's what count
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
>>> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
>>> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>>>
>>> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
>>> might get some ap

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Time to get PR and... whom else to make that 53%? :-p 




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- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 9:13:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 


WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%. 


On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



George is right. My write in might win. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole thing is 
another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than popular vote 
determination is the convoluted crap we are in. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 



Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes. 




On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote: 





I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn. 









On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 










i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her word 
to accept the results 













On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
> wrote: 



by now i expected a clinton lead 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 





What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me... 


On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



what the hell is going on in ohio? 




On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



They are calling Texas Wow. People still in line here... 




On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
> wrote: 



trump is pulling forward there now. 
If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT 


On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



always vote! always! 




On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



I voted proudly... That's what count 




On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always vote 
but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so many die 
hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference. 
I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We might 
get some appreciation. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Damn. Eric and I are dumb 


On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private 
Inline
  image 1



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps lackeys 
just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record numbers... 
We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a "certain 
group"!. 




On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 




It could happen... 

Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque De La 
Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most impressive name of 
any of the candidates. 









-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 











-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 







-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 









-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 









-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Mike Hammett
E, 53, not 53%. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 9:13:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 


WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%. 


On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



George is right. My write in might win. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole thing is 
another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than popular vote 
determination is the convoluted crap we are in. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 



Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes. 




On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote: 





I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn. 









On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 










i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her word 
to accept the results 













On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
> wrote: 



by now i expected a clinton lead 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 





What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me... 


On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



what the hell is going on in ohio? 




On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



They are calling Texas Wow. People still in line here... 




On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
> wrote: 



trump is pulling forward there now. 
If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT 


On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



always vote! always! 




On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



I voted proudly... That's what count 




On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always vote 
but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so many die 
hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference. 
I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We might 
get some appreciation. 


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Damn. Eric and I are dumb 


On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private 
Inline
  image 1



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps lackeys 
just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record numbers... 
We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a "certain 
group"!. 




On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 




It could happen... 

Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque De La 
Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most impressive name of 
any of the candidates. 









-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 











-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 







-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 









-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 









-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 







-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 












Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
WOW Washington DC just elected to support a bid for statehood by 71%.

On Nov 8, 2016 9:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> George is right. My write in might win.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
>> thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
>> popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>>
>> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>>
>> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
>> word to accept the results
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> trump is pulling forward there now.
>> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> always vote! always!
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I voted proudly... That's what count
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
>> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
>> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>>
>> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
>> might get some appreciation.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
>> lackeys
>> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
>> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
>> "certain group"!.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>
>> It could happen...
>>
>> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque
>> De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
>> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
George is right. My write in might win.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole
> thing is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
> popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>
> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
> word to accept the results
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> by now i expected a clinton lead
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> trump is pulling forward there now.
> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> always vote! always!
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> I voted proudly... That's what count
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>
> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
> might get some appreciation.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
> lackeys
> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
> "certain group"!.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>
> It could happen...
>
> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque
> De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Cool, then they can fold in to the constitution or libertarian parties and
we can actually have a decent election... Kind of.

On Nov 8, 2016 8:59 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> The Republicans in charge don’t want Trump to win.  If he does, they will
> lose a lot of seats next election, much of their donors, and probably won’t
> be able to maintain enough votes to pass anything.  Which is actually quite
> good, Republicans will see who they need to clean out next election.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2016 7:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day
>
>
>
> the most petrifying thing, and note im a right wing nut job, is how close
> the senate still is and the gain in the house. I dont want to live in a
> world where republicans control the government, luckily, trump is not GOP
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> That would be kind of awesome...
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
> word to accept the results
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> by now i expected a clinton lead
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> trump is pulling forward there now.
>
> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> always vote! always!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I voted proudly... That's what count
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>
> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
> might get some appreciation.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
> lackeys
> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
> "certain group"!.
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It could happen...
>
> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque
> De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
If Trump won cali I would demand a recount. Josh is right. This whole thing
is another exampleof the electoral mess. The only thing scarier than
popular vote determination is the convoluted crap we are in.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:59 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>
> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
> word to accept the results
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> by now i expected a clinton lead
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> trump is pulling forward there now.
> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> always vote! always!
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> I voted proudly... That's what count
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>
> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
> might get some appreciation.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
> lackeys
> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
> "certain group"!.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>
> It could happen...
>
> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque
> De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread George Skorup

The Cubs won the world series. Shit's all kinda weird this year.

On 11/8/2016 8:54 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:


That would be kind of awesome...


On Nov 8, 2016 8:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:


i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand
by her word to accept the results

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman
> wrote:

Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
>
wrote:

by now i expected a clinton lead

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard
> wrote:

What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...


On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> wrote:

what the hell is going on in ohio?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

They are calling Texas Wow.   People still
in line here...


On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
> wrote:

Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy
/sarcasm > wrote:

trump is pulling forward there now.
If texas went to hillary its a given
the race will be contested

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime
Solorza > wrote:

So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST
THAT IS DIFFERENT


On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One
Guy /sarcasm"
>
wrote:

always vote! always!

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48
PM, Jaime Solorza
>
wrote:

I voted proudly... That's
what count


On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM,
"Lewis Bergman"
>
wrote:

Jaimie...I sympathize
with your likely
feelings of
irrelevance. I always
vote but in such a red
state it doesn't
matter how you vote
there are so many die
hard Republicans it
doesn't make a
difference.

I wish we could throw
some libertarians in
there and shake things
up. We might get some
appreciation.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016,
5:58 PM Jaime Solorza
>
   

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Might wanna hang out there for awhile until the toxic cloud passes.

On Nov 8, 2016 8:57 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.
>
> On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
> word to accept the results
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> trump is pulling forward there now.
>>> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> always vote! always!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I voted proudly... That's what count
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
>>> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
>>> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>>>
>>> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
>>> might get some appreciation.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
>>> lackeys
>>> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
>>> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
>>> "certain group"!.
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>>
>>> It could happen...
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky
>>> Roque De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
>>> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Rory Conaway
The Republicans in charge don’t want Trump to win.  If he does, they will lose 
a lot of seats next election, much of their donors, and probably won’t be able 
to maintain enough votes to pass anything.  Which is actually quite good, 
Republicans will see who they need to clean out next election.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 7:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

the most petrifying thing, and note im a right wing nut job, is how close the 
senate still is and the gain in the house. I dont want to live in a world where 
republicans control the government, luckily, trump is not GOP

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That would be kind of awesome...

On Nov 8, 2016 8:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her word 
to accept the results

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
by now i expected a clinton lead

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...

On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
what the hell is going on in ohio?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...

On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
trump is pulling forward there now.
If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT

On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
always vote! always!

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I voted proudly... That's what count

On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always vote 
but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so many die 
hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.

I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We might 
get some appreciation.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Damn.  Eric and I are dumb

On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
[Inline image 1]

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps lackeys
just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record numbers... 
We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a "certain 
group"!.

On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard" 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It could happen...
Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque De La 
Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most impressive name of 
any of the candidates.



--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread George Skorup

I'm staying in the basement with my 870 loaded until dawn.

On 11/8/2016 8:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by 
her word to accept the results


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman > wrote:


Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
> wrote:

by now i expected a clinton lead

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard
> wrote:

What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...


On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> wrote:

what the hell is going on in ohio?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

They are calling Texas Wow. People still in
line here...


On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
> wrote:

Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy
/sarcasm > wrote:

trump is pulling forward there now.
If texas went to hillary its a given the
race will be contested

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime
Solorza > wrote:

So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT
IS DIFFERENT


On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy
/sarcasm" > wrote:

always vote! always!

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM,
Jaime Solorza
>
wrote:

I voted proudly... That's what
count


On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis
Bergman"
>
wrote:

Jaimie...I sympathize with
your likely feelings of
irrelevance. I always vote
but in such a red state it
doesn't matter how you
vote there are so many die
hard Republicans it
doesn't make a difference.

I wish we could throw some
libertarians in there and
shake things up. We might
get some appreciation.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58
PM Jaime Solorza
>
wrote:

Damn.  Eric and I are
dumb


On Nov 8, 2016 4:52
PM, "That One Guy
/sarcasm"
>
wrote:

Jaime forgot to
mark his facebook
   

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Trump winning California would be like Clinton winning Texas.

On Nov 8, 2016 8:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
> word to accept the results
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> trump is pulling forward there now.
>>> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> always vote! always!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I voted proudly... That's what count
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
>>> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
>>> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>>>
>>> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
>>> might get some appreciation.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
>>> lackeys
>>> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
>>> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
>>> "certain group"!.
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>>
>>> It could happen...
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky
>>> Roque De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
>>> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
the most petrifying thing, and note im a right wing nut job, is how close
the senate still is and the gain in the house. I dont want to live in a
world where republicans control the government, luckily, trump is not GOP

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> That would be kind of awesome...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
>> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
>> word to accept the results
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 by now i expected a clinton lead

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

 What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...

 On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 what the hell is going on in ohio?

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...

 On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
 wrote:

 Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 trump is pulling forward there now.
 If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT

 On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 always vote! always!

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I voted proudly... That's what count

 On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
 wrote:

 Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I
 always vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there
 are so many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.

 I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up.
 We might get some appreciation.

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

 Damn.  Eric and I are dumb

 On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
 [image: Inline image 1]

 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
 lackeys
 just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
 numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
 "certain group"!.

 On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

 It could happen...

 Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky
 Roque De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
 impressive name of any of the candidates.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Mathew Howard
That would be kind of awesome...

On Nov 8, 2016 8:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
> word to accept the results
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> trump is pulling forward there now.
>>> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> always vote! always!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I voted proudly... That's what count
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
>>> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
>>> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>>>
>>> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
>>> might get some appreciation.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
>>> lackeys
>>> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
>>> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
>>> "certain group"!.
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>>
>>> It could happen...
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky
>>> Roque De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
>>> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i want trump to pull california, just to see if clinton will stand by her
word to accept the results

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> by now i expected a clinton lead
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> trump is pulling forward there now.
>> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> always vote! always!
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I voted proudly... That's what count
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
>> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
>> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>>
>> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
>> might get some appreciation.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
>> lackeys
>> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
>> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
>> "certain group"!.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>
>> It could happen...
>>
>> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque
>> De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
>> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
Come on, they could have called Texas 2 years ago.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 8:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> by now i expected a clinton lead
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> What's wrong with Ohio? Looks fine to me...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 8:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> what the hell is going on in ohio?
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> They are calling Texas Wow.   People still in line here...
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:57 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> Yea. Nobody would believe it, nor should they.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 7:55 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> trump is pulling forward there now.
> If texas went to hillary its a given the race will be contested
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> So far Texas is 48 vs 48...JUST THAT IS DIFFERENT
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> always vote! always!
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> I voted proudly... That's what count
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 5:39 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> Jaimie...I sympathize with your likely feelings of irrelevance. I always
> vote but in such a red state it doesn't matter how you vote there are so
> many die hard Republicans it doesn't make a difference.
>
> I wish we could throw some libertarians in there and shake things up. We
> might get some appreciation.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Damn.  Eric and I are dumb
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 4:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> Jaime forgot to mark his facebook selfie private
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Wow I have been called setback, beaner, spik to name a few but Trumps
> lackeys
> just came up with new one in Nevada where Latinos are voting record
> numbers... We are now a "certain group"aaaugghhh ...Bad Hombre from a
> "certain group"!.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 10:18 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>
> It could happen...
>
> Unfortunately, Vermin Supreme wasn't on the ballot here, but "Rocky Roque
> De La Fuente" was... I have no idea who he is, but he had the most
> impressive name of any of the candidates.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Vigo County, IN has picked the Presidential winner 30 out of the last 32 
elections, including every one since 1952. Currently Vigo County (home of 
Joink) is 56.2% Trump and 39.4% Hillary with Johnson at 4.4%. That's at 67 out 
of 89 precincts reporting. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Tushar Patel"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 4:25:08 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day 

Anybody interested in the early reporting on the results check following 
article and for results minute by minute go to website listed 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/us/politics/election-results-voting.html 

http://votecastr.us/ 

Tushar 





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