Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
I was thinking water balloon with slingshot :) On 05/14/2015 07:41 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Squirrels build their nests in trees around here. Steve's tactic could be tricky. David Milholen wrote: Coyote PEE does wonders LOL On 5/13/2015 8:00 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Bbdge and finding the squirrels nest and pissing in it resolved our squirrel issues On May 11, 2015 6:47 PM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Yeah, thats the ticket !! On 5/11/2015 8:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Set up a roadside squirrel stand like the squirrel lady in the movie “Rat Race”. “You should have bought a squirrel.” *From:* David Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable make a large funnel with a deep enclosure for the funnel to fit on top of so the base of the funnel is inside the drum/enclosure. place some peanut butter in the base of the drum and coat the inside of the funnel with teflon oh and yes be sure the base of the funnel has a large enough hole big enough to allow them to get in and it must have a neck on the funnel. Give them a plank to walk over the funnel. This way the little suckers will fall into the drum and if its deep enough cant get out. Or you could get some of the larger rodent traps at farm supply that do the same thing accept they lay flat on the ground I dont like catching the big ones that are larger than the trap cuz they get a little angry. On 5/10/2015 11:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s now they won't be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us mailto:af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *Sean Heskett
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
Squirrels build their nests in trees around here. Steve's tactic could be tricky. David Milholen wrote: Coyote PEE does wonders LOL On 5/13/2015 8:00 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Bbdge and finding the squirrels nest and pissing in it resolved our squirrel issues On May 11, 2015 6:47 PM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Yeah, thats the ticket !! On 5/11/2015 8:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Set up a roadside squirrel stand like the squirrel lady in the movie “Rat Race”. “You should have bought a squirrel.” *From:* David Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable make a large funnel with a deep enclosure for the funnel to fit on top of so the base of the funnel is inside the drum/enclosure. place some peanut butter in the base of the drum and coat the inside of the funnel with teflon oh and yes be sure the base of the funnel has a large enough hole big enough to allow them to get in and it must have a neck on the funnel. Give them a plank to walk over the funnel. This way the little suckers will fall into the drum and if its deep enough cant get out. Or you could get some of the larger rodent traps at farm supply that do the same thing accept they lay flat on the ground I dont like catching the big ones that are larger than the trap cuz they get a little angry. On 5/10/2015 11:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s now they won't be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us mailto:af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *Sean
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
Are you saying Steve is a Coyote? ...that could explain some things :P On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:14 AM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Coyote PEE does wonders LOL On 5/13/2015 8:00 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Bbdge and finding the squirrels nest and pissing in it resolved our squirrel issues On May 11, 2015 6:47 PM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Yeah, thats the ticket !! On 5/11/2015 8:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Set up a roadside squirrel stand like the squirrel lady in the movie “Rat Race”. “You should have bought a squirrel.” *From:* David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable make a large funnel with a deep enclosure for the funnel to fit on top of so the base of the funnel is inside the drum/enclosure. place some peanut butter in the base of the drum and coat the inside of the funnel with teflon oh and yes be sure the base of the funnel has a large enough hole big enough to allow them to get in and it must have a neck on the funnel. Give them a plank to walk over the funnel. This way the little suckers will fall into the drum and if its deep enough cant get out. Or you could get some of the larger rodent traps at farm supply that do the same thing accept they lay flat on the ground I dont like catching the big ones that are larger than the trap cuz they get a little angry. On 5/10/2015 11:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s now they won't be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
Bbdge and finding the squirrels nest and pissing in it resolved our squirrel issues On May 11, 2015 6:47 PM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Yeah, thats the ticket !! On 5/11/2015 8:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Set up a roadside squirrel stand like the squirrel lady in the movie “Rat Race”. “You should have bought a squirrel.” *From:* David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable make a large funnel with a deep enclosure for the funnel to fit on top of so the base of the funnel is inside the drum/enclosure. place some peanut butter in the base of the drum and coat the inside of the funnel with teflon oh and yes be sure the base of the funnel has a large enough hole big enough to allow them to get in and it must have a neck on the funnel. Give them a plank to walk over the funnel. This way the little suckers will fall into the drum and if its deep enough cant get out. Or you could get some of the larger rodent traps at farm supply that do the same thing accept they lay flat on the ground I dont like catching the big ones that are larger than the trap cuz they get a little angry. On 5/10/2015 11:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s now they won't be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
I feel like piss on it makes up around half of Steve's troubleshooting flowchart solutions. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Bbdge and finding the squirrels nest and pissing in it resolved our squirrel issues On May 11, 2015 6:47 PM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Yeah, thats the ticket !! On 5/11/2015 8:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Set up a roadside squirrel stand like the squirrel lady in the movie “Rat Race”. “You should have bought a squirrel.” *From:* David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable make a large funnel with a deep enclosure for the funnel to fit on top of so the base of the funnel is inside the drum/enclosure. place some peanut butter in the base of the drum and coat the inside of the funnel with teflon oh and yes be sure the base of the funnel has a large enough hole big enough to allow them to get in and it must have a neck on the funnel. Give them a plank to walk over the funnel. This way the little suckers will fall into the drum and if its deep enough cant get out. Or you could get some of the larger rodent traps at farm supply that do the same thing accept they lay flat on the ground I dont like catching the big ones that are larger than the trap cuz they get a little angry. On 5/10/2015 11:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s now they won't be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
Well, if you were a squirrel and that happened to your nest, would you come back or move as far away as you possibly could? On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: I feel like piss on it makes up around half of Steve's troubleshooting flowchart solutions. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Bbdge and finding the squirrels nest and pissing in it resolved our squirrel issues On May 11, 2015 6:47 PM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Yeah, thats the ticket !! On 5/11/2015 8:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Set up a roadside squirrel stand like the squirrel lady in the movie “Rat Race”. “You should have bought a squirrel.” *From:* David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable make a large funnel with a deep enclosure for the funnel to fit on top of so the base of the funnel is inside the drum/enclosure. place some peanut butter in the base of the drum and coat the inside of the funnel with teflon oh and yes be sure the base of the funnel has a large enough hole big enough to allow them to get in and it must have a neck on the funnel. Give them a plank to walk over the funnel. This way the little suckers will fall into the drum and if its deep enough cant get out. Or you could get some of the larger rodent traps at farm supply that do the same thing accept they lay flat on the ground I dont like catching the big ones that are larger than the trap cuz they get a little angry. On 5/10/2015 11:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s now they won't be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
Set up a roadside squirrel stand like the squirrel lady in the movie “Rat Race”. “You should have bought a squirrel.” From: David Milholen Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable make a large funnel with a deep enclosure for the funnel to fit on top of so the base of the funnel is inside the drum/enclosure. place some peanut butter in the base of the drum and coat the inside of the funnel with teflon oh and yes be sure the base of the funnel has a large enough hole big enough to allow them to get in and it must have a neck on the funnel. Give them a plank to walk over the funnel. This way the little suckers will fall into the drum and if its deep enough cant get out. Or you could get some of the larger rodent traps at farm supply that do the same thing accept they lay flat on the ground I dont like catching the big ones that are larger than the trap cuz they get a little angry. On 5/10/2015 11:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s now they won't be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com -- From: Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com To: af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com -- From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com --
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s now they won't be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
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Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix
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Where are they chewing it? They seem to like platforms. Maybe put the cable through some flexible conduit or LDPE tubing where the chewing occurs. If cost is the issue, maybe look around for a good price on irrigation tubing, not sure how big that comes. A determined squirrel could chew through it, but as your photos show, they tend to chew a bit one place then try somewhere else. I even used smurf tube once and while clearly that’s not the best choice it seemed to work. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix
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There are two little holes spaced apart about as far as a squirrel's tooth would be. They're all over, though as Ken noted, mostly absent when there's not a platform, angle iron, etc. for them to stand on. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:37:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable That looks like an installation problem, not squirrels. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 10, 2015 4:21 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com /blockquote /blockquote
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I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix
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Yeah, that would be better. Squirrels are very inquisitive and persistent creatures. They would probably bite all your other cables to determine if they get shocks from all of them. I used to have pear trees. The squirrels would take one bite out of each green pear to see if it was ripe. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
That looks like an installation problem, not squirrels. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 10, 2015 4:21 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix
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Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix
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Whoops sorry about that! I was reading to fast lol On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix
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I felt like I was on Ars. ;-) BTW: Ken, are you kkken? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 5:05:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Whoops sorry about that! I was reading to fast lol On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
I use irrigation pipe a lot for various things in-ground. That might work. Someone suggested coyote\fox urine. Then again, I think they might be living in the leg. I saw a decent sized rust hole. Maybe the problem will be gone next time they need to move corn? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:55:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Where are they chewing it? They seem to like platforms. Maybe put the cable through some flexible conduit or LDPE tubing where the chewing occurs. If cost is the issue, maybe look around for a good price on irrigation tubing, not sure how big that comes. A determined squirrel could chew through it, but as your photos show, they tend to chew a bit one place then try somewhere else. I even used smurf tube once and while clearly that’s not the best choice it seemed to work. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
That's what happens to my Dad's peach trees. Nope, that' one's not ripe. Let's try this one. Nope. Hey, there's another. Darnit. Ken Hohhof wrote: Yeah, that would be better. Squirrels are very inquisitive and persistent creatures. They would probably bite all your other cables to determine if they get shocks from all of them. I used to have pear trees. The squirrels would take one bite out of each green pear to see if it was ripe. *From:* Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix
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I put conduit and breakout boxes up every tower / silo / grain elevator. It has been awesome. I run a ton of extra cables and two or three extra mule tape to each box as well. When the extra cables get used it is cake to pull a new one, and then I leave the 2nd mule tape in the box and pull it back through the next time, so there is always one in there. Also, when it comes time to run fiber to every AP (hey, one can always dream) it will be super easy. I can't imagine ever building out any other way now. I started out using grey pvc conduit, but have since graduated to shielded liqui-tite. The pvc conduit, male adapters, and boxes ran about $100 per site. The shielded 1 1/2 liqui-tite runs about $400-600 per site. On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: That's what happens to my Dad's peach trees. Nope, that' one's not ripe. Let's try this one. Nope. Hey, there's another. Darnit. Ken Hohhof wrote: Yeah, that would be better. Squirrels are very inquisitive and persistent creatures. They would probably bite all your other cables to determine if they get shocks from all of them. I used to have pear trees. The squirrels would take one bite out of each green pear to see if it was ripe. *From:* Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto: af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix
