Re: [agi] Emergent ethics via training - eg. game playing
Hi Jonathan, I think Sim City and many of the Sim games would be good but Civilization 3 and Alpha Centauri and Black White are highly competitive and allow huge scope for being combative. Compared to earlier versions, Civilisation 3 has added more options for non-war based domination but unless players are committed to a peaceful approach the program is largely a war game. I don't know Black White personally but I picked up a review at: http://www.game-revolution.com/games/pc/strategy/black_and_white.htm The premise is simple: you're a god and it's your task to convert as many nonbelievers to your cause as possible, thereby gaining power. You can be a good god or a bad god, an evil master of destruction or a benevolent flower daddy - or any of the millions of shades in between. By managing your villages and fighting other gods, you vie for ultimate control. I'm not sure that Black White would be good training for an AGI. Do we really want it to limber up as a dominating god - maybe benevolent and maybe not?? Cheers, Philip --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [agi] Emergent ethics via training - eg. game playing
I'm not sure that Black White would be good training for an AGI. Do we really want it to limber up as a dominating god - maybe benevolent and maybe not?? Obviously, not... but still it might make for an interesting test of charactor. -- I WANT A DEC ALPHA!!! =) 21364: THE UNDISPUTED GOD OF ALL CPUS. http://users.rcn.com/alangrimes/ [if rcn.com doesn't work, try erols.com ] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [agi] Emergent ethics via training - eg. game playing
Indeed, I regretted those choices as soon as I hit the send button ... Hi Jonathan, I think Sim City and many of the Sim games would be good but Civilization 3 and Alpha Centauri and Black White are highly competitive and allow huge scope for being combative. Compared to earlier versions, Civilisation 3 has added more options for non-war based domination but unless players are committed to a peaceful approach the program is largely a war game. I don't know Black White personally but I picked up a review at: http://www.game-revolution.com/games/pc/strategy/black_and_white.htm The premise is simple: you're a god and it's your task to convert as many nonbelievers to your cause as possible, thereby gaining power. You can be a good god or a bad god, an evil master of destruction or a benevolent flower daddy - or any of the millions of shades in between. By managing your villages and fighting other gods, you vie for ultimate control. I'm not sure that Black White would be good training for an AGI. Do we really want it to limber up as a dominating god - maybe benevolent and maybe not?? Cheers, Philip --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[agi] Emergent ethics via training - eg. game playing
A very large number of computer games are based on competition and frequently combat. If we train an AGI on an average selection of current computer games is it possible that a lot of implicit ethical training will happen at the same time (ie. the AGI starts to see the world as revolving around competition and even worse, combat?) I'm having to deal with this problem in raising two young kids and I wonder why an AGI would not have the same problem. Other games are based on mastery/competence improvement etc. Is anyone working on selecting training games that are chosen on the basis of both skills/knowledge development and ethical development as well? Cheers, Philip --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [agi] Emergent ethics via training - eg. game playing
Sim City, Black White, the Sims, civ3 the related Alpha Centauri All good choices I think --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
