Re: BUS: Re: [Registrar] Deregistrations of Inactive Players

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 2:00 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:40 AM Aris Merchant
>  wrote:
> >
> > Five players were inactivated on April 10. As it has now been 60 days
> > since then, it is time to deregister them. In accordance with the
> > rules, this message is being sent both to agora-business and to the
> > email address of each involved player.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister lucidot.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister JTAC.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Ubercrow.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Noah.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Slam_Joe_Jr_Supreme.
> >
> > To the players listed: We hope you have enjoyed your time in Agora,
> > and that you will consider returning in the future. You may prevent
> > your deregistration by sending a message in reply to this one,
> > addressed to agora-business, stating "I become active."
>
> Whoops. This should have been without 3 objections, rather than with
> notice. I'm going to do it again. Since all of the people have already
> received emails on the subject, and I don't want to spam them if they
> have arranged to no longer receive mail for the lists, this is sent
> solely to a-b.
>
> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister lucidot.

Without 3 objections, I do so.

> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister JTAC.

Without 3 objections, I do so.

> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister Noah.

Without 3 objections, I do so.

-Aris

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Prime Minister

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 4:03 PM ais523 via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2021-06-27 at 14:03 -0700, Edward Murphy via agora-official
> wrote:
> > I initiate an Agoran decision to eslect the winner of the election
> > for Prime Minister.
> >
> >* The Vote Collector is the ADoP (me).
> >
> >* The valid options are ais523, ATMunn, G., R. Lee, and anyone
> >  else who becomes a candidate before voting ends.
> >
> >* The voting method is instant runoff.
>
> I vote {ais523, R. Lee, ATMunn}. (Nothing against G. as a person, but
> I'd prefer a change up at the top echelons.)
>

I vote [ais523, Falsifian, ATMunn, R. Lee]

-Aris

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Notice of Election

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

> On 27/06/2021 20:59, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote:
> > Current term-limited offices:
> >
> > Office Holder Since Last Election Complexity
> > 
> > ADoP ~*Murphy 2020-07-032020-06-271
> > Assessor ~ Jason  2019-07-092020-07-273
> > Ministor ~ nix2020-10-28(never)   1
> > Notary   ~ ATMunn 2020-10-122021-01-172
> > Promotor ~ Aris   2016-10-212017-09-213
> > Rulekeepor   ~ Jason  2019-12-062020-03-073
> > Stonemason   ~ Jason  2020-11-11(never)   1
> > Treasuror~ Trigon 2020-05-012020-05-013
> > Webmastor~ nix2020-06-032020-06-131
> >
> >- Ministor enacted on 2020-10-28
> >- Stonemason enacted on 2020-11-11
> >
> > I publish the following Notice of Election:
> >
> >- Promotor
> >- Rulekeepor
> >- Treasuror
> >- Webmastor

I stand for Promotor.

-Aris

BUS: [Speaker] Ascension Adress

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

One week ago, proposal 8565, "Popularity Contest", passed. Thereupon,
I won the game. Now that its resolution has self-ratified, I am
prepared to deliver my ascension address to the people of Agora.

You are all absolute fools. You have made the mistake of giving me
power, and now that I have it, I shall never relinquish it. I will
grind the game of Agora under my heel, using it as part of my plot to
bring down conquest upon nomics everywhere. I will become your
emperor, and command and destroy at my whim, as you cower in the
terror of my...

Wait. Sorry, I think I pulled out the wrong speech. Let me start over.

Thank you Agorans. I am truly honored that you have seen fit to crown
me as victor of the popularity contest. I could not have done it
without your loyal support. Now that I have been recognized for my
outstanding awesomeness and coolness (/j), I think it is time for me
to thank those who have assisted me in this endeavor.

I cause the rule "Popularity Contest" to grant patent titles as follows:

To ATMunn, Aris, Cuddle Beam, G., Jason, Murphy, Trigon, and
cuddlybanana, the patent title "Popular", for their support in voting
FOR my proposal.

To ATMunn, the patent title "Popular Philanthropist", for asking only
for a patent title when offered a monetary incentive to lend eir aid.

To Jason and Trigon, the patent title "Very Popular", for giving me
the advice that allowed me to complete my ascension. The same title to
myself, because I also came up with a bunch of the schemes, and also
because it allows me to do a nice title pyramid.

To myself, the patent title "Most Popular", as the victor of the
popularity contest.

Furthermore, I give 50 coins each to ATMunn, Cuddle Beam, G., Murphy,
and cuddlybanana, and 100 coins each to Trigon and Jason. This isn't
part of any deal, I just feel like it.

Let me know if I've missed any obligations I can currently fulfill.

Finally, thanks again everyone for your help and support.

-Aris

BUS: Re: [Registrar] Deregistrations of Inactive Players

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 1:59 PM Aris Merchant
 wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:40 AM Aris Merchant
>  wrote:
> >
> > Five players were inactivated on April 10. As it has now been 60 days
> > since then, it is time to deregister them. In accordance with the
> > rules, this message is being sent both to agora-business and to the
> > email address of each involved player.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister lucidot.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister JTAC.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Ubercrow.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Noah.
> >
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Slam_Joe_Jr_Supreme.
> >
> > To the players listed: We hope you have enjoyed your time in Agora,
> > and that you will consider returning in the future. You may prevent
> > your deregistration by sending a message in reply to this one,
> > addressed to agora-business, stating "I become active."
>
> Whoops. This should have been without 3 objections, rather than with
> notice. I'm going to do it again. Since all of the people have already
> received emails on the subject, and I don't want to spam them if they
> have arranged to no longer receive mail for the lists, this is sent
> solely to a-b.
>
> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister lucidot.
>
> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister JTAC.
>
> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister Noah.
>
> I could intend to deregister Slam_Joe_Jr_Supreme. However, e has taken
> game actions in the recent past. I advise em to make emself active as
> soon as possible.

Explanation for why Ubercrow wasn't on this list: I saw that e had
sent a message making emself active. I had assumed that e sent the
message to the public list, but I just realized when compiling the
Agoran Directory that e sent it privately to me. I have emailed em
asking em to send eir activation to the public list.

BUS: [Registrar] Updating Watcher Listings

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

In order to keep the list of watchers up to date, it is necessary to
make sure that people marked as watchers are still watching the Agoran
mailing lists. Accordingly, I am sending this message to all watchers
who have not sent a message to the lists within the last year.
Lykaina, Phlogistique and Steve, if you are interested in remaining
listed as a watcher, I would appreciate it if you could email me.

BUS: Re: [Registrar] Deregistrations of Inactive Players

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:40 AM Aris Merchant
 wrote:
>
> Five players were inactivated on April 10. As it has now been 60 days
> since then, it is time to deregister them. In accordance with the
> rules, this message is being sent both to agora-business and to the
> email address of each involved player.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister lucidot.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister JTAC.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Ubercrow.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Noah.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Slam_Joe_Jr_Supreme.
>
> To the players listed: We hope you have enjoyed your time in Agora,
> and that you will consider returning in the future. You may prevent
> your deregistration by sending a message in reply to this one,
> addressed to agora-business, stating "I become active."

Whoops. This should have been without 3 objections, rather than with
notice. I'm going to do it again. Since all of the people have already
received emails on the subject, and I don't want to spam them if they
have arranged to no longer receive mail for the lists, this is sent
solely to a-b.

I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister lucidot.

I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister JTAC.

I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister Noah.

I could intend to deregister Slam_Joe_Jr_Supreme. However, e has taken
game actions in the recent past. I advise em to make emself active as
soon as possible.

Re: BUS: [Registrar] IRC Forum Change

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:23 AM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I intend, without objection, to flip the publicity of the channel
> ##nomic on freenode to foreign. I will briefly explain the reasoning
> in a follow-up post to Agora Business.

Without objection, I do so.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Investigation of Telna and Indictment (plz support/oppose)

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 3:01 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On 6/18/21 5:29 PM, Rebecca Lee via agora-official wrote:
> > Clearly, Telna pointed this finger for personal gain of a justice card.  E
> > essentially admitted as such on discord. The element of profitability makes
> > an upward variance appropriate (2557). I therefore intend, with 1.5 Agoran
> > consent (this is the procedure under a new proposal,
> > https://agoranomic.org/assessor/proposal/8560.txt) to Indict Telna, levying
> > a fine of 2 blots.
>

I object. 2 blots is pushing it for a class-0 first offense.

-Aris

Re: (mooty moot intent) Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3916 Assigned to ais523

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 2:07 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> On 6/17/2021 5:37 AM, Telna via agora-business wrote:
> > On 2021-06-14 22:40, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> >> Do you really have any doubt that a finger pointed at me for failing to
> >> respond to the petition wouldn't have succeeded?  We'll never know of
> >> course.  But if I'd defended myself by saying "hey, that wasn't directed
> >> at me as PM, it was directed at me as a person" that wouldn't have held
> >> any water - the answer would be "you were the PM, you are you, there's
> no
> >> ambiguity, what's the problem?"
> >>
> >> If I had been the PM, I would have been forced to respond.  But since I
> >> wasn't the PM, it's somehow retroactively ambiguous?  Punished if I am,
> >> punished if I'm not.
> >>
> >> -G.
> >>
> > I support the motion to reconsider.
>
> I intend to enter the judgement of CFJ 3916 into moot, with 2 support.
>
> Reasons:
>
> H. Judge ais523 has followed up to my intent to reconsider with some
> discussion arguments, but I think eir semantic dissections are missing the
> forest for the trees somewhat.  I think this one of the rare cases where a
> moot/democracy may be a better determinate of resolving the controversy.
>
> It is a matter of post-hoc justification for Agora to consider - if I had
> been PM at the time of the petition and didn't respond, would Agora have
> considered it a formal petition, and therefore a penalty?
>
> When I thought I was PM back in February, and had counterscammers arrayed
> against me, I had no doubt they would use every tool in their arsenal,
> including this one.  But maybe I'm wrong!  Hence, perhaps, a polling moot.
>
> -G.


I support. This should not be taken as agreement, just a sign that I want
this to go to a vote.

-Aris

>

BUS: [Registrar] IRC Forum Change

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I intend, without objection, to flip the publicity of the channel
##nomic on freenode to foreign. I will briefly explain the reasoning
in a follow-up post to Agora Business.

I also sent the above text to ##nomic, as required by rule 478.

I'm doing this because freenode was recently taken over, and all of
the volunteer management has resigned. They have created a new
network, libera.chat, which we're planning on adding as a forum as
soon as possible. Currently, we are using the ##nomic channel on that
network. However, we want to see if we can get the channel name #agora
instead, so I'm waiting to see if that goes through before proposing
adding a new IRC forum. I would appreciate it if others with more
knowledge of the situation will post a more detailed description of
the background than I've been able to give.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Ministor] Ministor's Report REVISION 1

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 11:50 AM nix via agora-official
 wrote:
>
> +-+
> |Ministor's Report|
> +-+
>
> Date of this report: 2021-06-14 18:47 UTC
>
> Notices
> ===
>
> Legacy players now grant themselves a victory point. The Card is the
> only thing raffled.
>
> Player Ministry Focuses
> ===
>
> Focus grants a monthly bonus:
>
> * Unfocused - nothing, just the default
> * Compliance - grant yourself a Justice card
> * Legislation - grant yourself a Legislative card
> * Participation - grant yourself a Voting card
> * Legacy - grant yourself a Victory Point and be entered in a monthly
>raffle for a Victory Card (resolved in a separate email)
>
> You can Plan To Flip your own focus by announcement - it will be flipped
> at the start of the next month.
>
> Current Focuses
> 
> Compliance (1): Cuddlebeam
>
> Legacy (4): ATMunn, Falsifian, G., nix
>
> Legislation (6): Aenet, Aris, Gaelan, Jason, Trigon, seventeenMachine

CoE: My focus is still participation. I planned to flip to
legislation, but it won't take effect till next month.

-Aris

Re: OFF: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) election

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 3:33 PM Edward Murphy via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> G. wrote:
>
> > On 6/13/2021 2:24 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote:
> >> I wrote:
> >> Sorry, no, my action here was unambiguously ineffective. (If G.
> >> deputised, then e already initiated the election; if not, then it's
> >> not interim and thus I can't initiate one by announcement.)
> >>
> >
> > Oops good point.  We're past 90 days, so I intend to initiate an election
> > for Prime Minister with 2 support.  Second supporter feel free to to so.
>
> I support.
>

I support and do so.

-Aris

>

BUS: Final Setup

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I grant myself a voting card.

I pay 4 cards as a set to gain 10 extra votes.

If that didn't work, I pay 3 cards as a set to gain 6 extra votes.

I do the following 6 times: {I pay an extra vote to buy strength.}
I do the following 4 times: {I pay an extra vote to buy strength.}

-Aris

BUS: [Promotor] Index of Proposals

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I apologize; my Promotor's report is going to be late this week. I
thought I could finish it, but there are a ton of proposals and it's
taking longer than I expected. It shouldn't be more than a few days
late. In the meantime, here's an index of proposals you can check.

-Aris
---
ID  Author(s)   AITitle
---
8574&   Trigon, Jason, Aris 1.0   mending the quill
8575&   Jason, Gaelan   2.0   Stone Win Delay v2
8576*   Jason, Aris, Murphy 3.0   "By announcement" loosening
8577*   Jason   3.0   Festival intent eligibility
8578&   Jason, Trigon   2.0   Auction limitation
8579*   Jason, Trigon   3.0   AI voting method clarification v2
8580*   Jason, ais523, Trigon   3.0   Strength Buying Separation v2
8581&   Aris1.0   Grants on Resets
8582&   Aris2.0   The Artistry Lies in the Art
8583*   Murphy  3.0   Clarify switches
8584*   Murphy  3.0   Effective deference
8585*   Murphy  3.0   Clarify variable voting period
8586*   Murphy  3.0   Clarify deputisation
8587&   Murphy, G.  2.0   Clarify nomination period
8588&   Murphy, G.  2.0   Clarify stone retrieval
8589&   ATMunn  1.0   Secret proposal A
8590&   ATMunn  1.0   Secret proposal B

Re: BUS: [Proposal] Applause

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I retract this proposal. I'm hoping I can do better.

-Aris

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 2:06 AM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> If we come up with improved phrasing, I'll withdraw this version.
>
> I submit the following proposal.
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Title: Applause
> Adoption index: 2.0
> Author: Aris
> Co-author(s): G.
>
>
> [Who wants to have their art peer reviewed?]
>
> Amend Rule 1367, "Degrees", by replacing:
>
>   It SHOULD only be awarded for the publication of an original
>   thesis of scholarly worth (including responses to peer-review),
>   published with explicit intent to qualify for a degree. The
>   Herald SHOULD coordinate the peer-review process and the
>   awarding of degrees.
>
> with:
>
>   It SHOULD only be awarded for the publication of an original
>   thesis of scholarly or artistic worth, published with explicit
>   intent to qualify for a degree, that has passed through review
>   and been judged worthy of the degree in question.
>
>   For scholarly degrees, the review process should consist of peer-review,
>   with responses by the candidate. For artistic degrees, the review
>   process should consist of the reviewers applauding the candidate
>   and pointing out the virtues of the thesis. The Herald SHOULD
>   coordinate the review process and the awarding of degrees.
>
> [I'll note that "scholarly or artistic" is a bit clunky; if someone
> comes up with a substantial improvement, that would be lovely,
> and we can make that a new version of the proposal.]
>
> Amend Rule 2496, Rewards, by replacing:
>
>   * Having a Thesis pass peer-review and be granted a Degree based
> on its merit: 20 boatloads of coins (Herald)
>
> with:
>
> * Having a Thesis pass review and be granted a Degree based
>   on its merit: 20 boatloads of coins (Herald)

BUS: (no subject)

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I grant Trigon the following promise:
{

Cashing conditions:
* The bearer is Trigon.
* It is strictly before 14 June 2021 UTC.
* The bearer has, in the message in which e cashed this promise,
transferred me 1 voting card for the sole purpose of cashing this promise.

I transfer the bearer 300 coins.
}

-Aris

Re: BUS: Yet another promise [attn. Notary]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 9:41 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant Aris the following promise:
> {
>
> Cashing conditions:
> * The bearer is Aris.
> * It is strictly before 16 June 2021 UTC.
> * The bearer has, in the message in which e cashed this promise,
> transferred me 300 coins for the sole purpose of cashing this promise.
>
> I transfer the bearer one Voting Card.
> }
>
I pay Jason 300 coins. I cash the above promise.

-Aris

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8561-8572

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:10 AM Falsifian via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 05:17:25PM +0100, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> > On Sun, 2021-06-06 at 16:14 -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-official
> > wrote:
> > > ID: 8565
> > > Enact a new power 1.0 Rule entitled "Popularity Contest",
> > > with the following text:
> > >
> > >   Immediately after the adoption of this rule, Aris wins the
> > >   game.
> > > [...]
> > I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to make this proposal democratic.
>
> I support.


I object. I withdraw my objection.

-Aris

>

BUS: Re: [Registrar] Deregistrations of Inactive Players

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

There was an error in lucidiot's name and in their email.

I intend, with notice, to deregister lucidiot.

lucidiot, if you're just seeing this, please refer to the below message.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:40 AM Aris Merchant
 wrote:
>
> Five players were inactivated on April 10. As it has now been 60 days
> since then, it is time to deregister them. In accordance with the
> rules, this message is being sent both to agora-business and to the
> email address of each involved player.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister lucidot.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister JTAC.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Ubercrow.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Noah.
>
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Slam_Joe_Jr_Supreme.
>
> To the players listed: We hope you have enjoyed your time in Agora,
> and that you will consider returning in the future. You may prevent
> your deregistration by sending a message in reply to this one,
> addressed to agora-business, stating "I become active."

BUS: [Registrar] Deregistrations of Inactive Players

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

Five players were inactivated on April 10. As it has now been 60 days
since then, it is time to deregister them. In accordance with the
rules, this message is being sent both to agora-business and to the
email address of each involved player.

I intend, with notice, to deregister lucidot.

I intend, with notice, to deregister JTAC.

I intend, with notice, to deregister Ubercrow.

I intend, with notice, to deregister Noah.

I intend, with notice, to deregister Slam_Joe_Jr_Supreme.

To the players listed: We hope you have enjoyed your time in Agora,
and that you will consider returning in the future. You may prevent
your deregistration by sending a message in reply to this one,
addressed to agora-business, stating "I become active."

Re: BUS: [Registrar] Deactivation

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 1:21 AM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I intend, with notice, to make Aenet inactive.
With notice, I do so.

> I intend, with notice, to make Jumble inactive.
With notice, I do so.

BUS: Even More Pending [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

For each of the following proposals, I pay a pendant to pend it:
* Grants on Resets
* The Artistry Lies in the Art
* Applause

-Aris

BUS: [Proposal] Applause

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

If we come up with improved phrasing, I'll withdraw this version.

I submit the following proposal.

-Aris
---
Title: Applause
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Aris
Co-author(s): G.


[Who wants to have their art peer reviewed?]

Amend Rule 1367, "Degrees", by replacing:

  It SHOULD only be awarded for the publication of an original
  thesis of scholarly worth (including responses to peer-review),
  published with explicit intent to qualify for a degree. The
  Herald SHOULD coordinate the peer-review process and the
  awarding of degrees.

with:

  It SHOULD only be awarded for the publication of an original
  thesis of scholarly or artistic worth, published with explicit
  intent to qualify for a degree, that has passed through review
  and been judged worthy of the degree in question.

  For scholarly degrees, the review process should consist of peer-review,
  with responses by the candidate. For artistic degrees, the review
  process should consist of the reviewers applauding the candidate
  and pointing out the virtues of the thesis. The Herald SHOULD
  coordinate the review process and the awarding of degrees.

[I'll note that "scholarly or artistic" is a bit clunky; if someone
comes up with a substantial improvement, that would be lovely,
and we can make that a new version of the proposal.]

Amend Rule 2496, Rewards, by replacing:

  * Having a Thesis pass peer-review and be granted a Degree based
on its merit: 20 boatloads of coins (Herald)

with:

* Having a Thesis pass review and be granted a Degree based
  on its merit: 20 boatloads of coins (Herald)

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8561-8572

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 4:19 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I vote as follows:

> > 8563&   Aris1.7   Determinacy is a Good Thing
> PRESENT

I change my vote to FOR (this is going to be democratic, so I'm not as
worried about exerting too much influence).

-Aris

BUS: [Proposal] Grants on Resets

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal.

-Aris
---
Title: Grants on Resets
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: Aris
Co-author(s):


Amend Rule 2621, "VP Wins", by replacing:

  When a player takes over the economy, e wins the game. If a player
  Took Over the Economy 4 days ago, all Cards and all Products are
  destroyed, then each active player is granted 1 card of each type.

with:

  When a player takes over the economy, e wins the game. Four days
  later, all Cards and all Products are destroyed. Then, each
  active player gains 1 card of each type and eir grant (if any).

Each player hereby gains eir grant (if any).

BUS: [Proposal] The Artistry Lies in the Art

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal.

-Aris
---
Title: The Artistry Lies in the Art
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Aris
Co-author(s):


[I used "Artistry" rather than "Art" to distinguish it from references
to the liberal arts. Later, I realized that those references use
"Arts" as in "Bachelor of Arts". So we're fine to just use Art here.]

Amend Rule 1367, "Degrees", by replacing each instance of "Artistry"
with "Art".

Change each instance of the patent title "Associate of Nomic
Artistry" to "Associate of Nomic Arts".

BUS: Nothing to Worry About [attn. Treasuror, Assessor]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I give Trigon 120 coins.

I pay 4 voting cards as set to gain 10 extra votes.
I pay 2 voting cards as a set to gain 3 extra votes.

I give Trigon 8 extra votes.

I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.
I buy strength.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [Proposal] Determinacy is a Good Thing

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 8:37 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
 wrote:
>
>
> On 6/5/2021 4:55 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > I submit the following proposal.
> >
> > -Aris
> > ---
> > Title: Determinacy is a Good Thing
> > Adoption index: 1.7
> > Author: Aris
> > Co-authors:
>
> I intend to flip the above-referenced proposal's class to Democratic, with
> 2 Agoran Consent.
>
> Aris, if by this:
> > This is intended as a referendum on whether we want to have wins by
> > paradox.
> you meant referendum in the popular sense not agoran definition sense, do
> you mind supporting so it's a fairly-weighted referendum?
>

Fine by me!

I support.

-Aris

BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] Forbes 439

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 4:49 PM Trigon via agora-official
 wrote:
>
> 
>  FORBES FOUR HUNDRED THIRTY-NINE
>    or   
> TREASUROR'S WEEKLY REPORT
> 
>
> Reports available online at: 
>
> DATES OF PUBLICATION  (contains no data)
> 
>
> (all times and dates in UTC)
>
> Date of previous original report: 28 May 2021
> Date of first report this week:   6 June 2021
>
>
> NOTES ON REPORT   (contains no data)
> 
>
> * Find my report drafts on Discord or IRC.
> * As always, please check the general accuracy of this report.
>
>
> BUOYANCY (self-ratifies)
> 
>
> Total Buoyancy : 34495
> Buoyancy Target: 34495
>
>
> ASSET BALANCES   (self-ratifies)
> 
>
> Player(+a)  cn wcjclcvcwpbgpdxv
>   ==  ==                
>   Aenet  428 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
>   Aris  5152 0 0 2 5 0 0 6 0

CoE: My vc and xv holdings are inaccurate, as they do not reflect the
two promise transactions that I have completed most recently.

-Aris

Re: BUS: Clearance on Voting Cards [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Rose Strong via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I grant Aris a promise with the following text: "I Cuddlybanana transfer 1
> Voting Card to Aris with the cashing condition
> Aris has transferred me 200 coins in the same message."

I transfer 200 coins to Cuddlybanana.
I cash the above promise.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [promise] Liquidation [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 1:22 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I grant Aris an instance of the following promise 7 times:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions:
>
> * It is strictly before June 8, 2021, UTC.
>
> * The bearer has transferred me 42 coins for the sole purpose of cashing
> this instance of this promise.
>
>
> I transfer the bearer one Extra Vote.
>
> }

I do the following 7 times: {
I transfer Jason 42 coins for the sole purpose of cashing an instance
of the above promise.
I cash an instance of the above promise.
}

-Aris

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8561-8572

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I vote as follows:

> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8561&   G., nix 2.0   Election Cycle
PRESENT
> 8562*   ATMunn, Aris3.0   Officializing Discord
PRESENT; please do not endorse me (including as Registrar) on this proposal.

> 8563&   Aris1.7   Determinacy is a Good Thing
PRESENT
> 8564&   Aris1.0   Sponsorship is not Co-authorship
FOR
> 8565&   Aris1.0   Popularity Contest
FOR
> 8566*   Jason   3.0   Anti-AI escalation
FOR
> 8567*   Jason   3.0   AI voting method clarification
Endorse Jason; I believe e is planning to submit a revised version of this.

> 8568*   Jason   3.0   Supporter/Objector clarification
FOR
> 8569*   Jason, Aris, Murphy 3.0   Fixing Festivals
AGAINST; this is kinda hard to read.

> 8570*   Jason   3.1   Emergency Regulation Clarification
FOR
> 8571&   Jason   2.0   Gauntlet announcement patch
FOR
> 8572&   Jason, Trigon   2.0   Thou shalt not disobey Trigon
FOR

-Aris

BUS: Pending Proposals [attn. Promotor, Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

For each of the following proposals, I pay a pendant to cause it to
become pending.

* Determinacy is a Good Thing
* Sponsorship is not Co-authorship
* Popularity Contest

BUS: [Proposal] Popularity Contest

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal.

-Aris
---
Title: Popularity Contest
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors:


Enact a new power 1.0 Rule entitled "Popularity Contest",
with the following text:

  Immediately after the adoption of this rule, Aris wins the
  game. Then, for each person who voted unconditionally FOR the
  referendum on the proposal that enacted this rule, this
  rule causes that person to earn a Black Ribbon.

  Aris CAN cause this rule to make a specified player
  earn a Black Ribbon by announcement. Aris can
  cause this rule to award a specified player
  a specified patent title containing the
  string "Popular" by announcement.

  If it has been at least one month since this rule
  was adopted, any person CAN End the Contest
  by announcement, causing this rule to repeal itself.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Pending is not Co-authorship

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 6:52 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
 wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 5:16 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
>  wrote:
> >
> > I submit the following proposal.
> >
> > -Aris
> > ---
> > Title: Pending is not Co-authorship
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: Aris
> > Co-authors:
>
> I retract this proposal (came up with a better title). I submit the
> following proposal.
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Title: Sponsorship is not Co-authorship
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Aris
> Co-authors:
>
>
> [It's always felt weird to me that pending a proposal now
> makes you a co-author. That's not what co-authorship
> means, IMO. Also, it goes against my mental invariant
> that proposals are immutable after creation.]
>
> Amend rule 2622, "Pending Proposals", by deleting the text:
>
>   If the player did not create the proposal and is not
>   listed in the list of co-authors of the proposal,
>   e is added to the list of co-authors.
>
> [For context, here's the current text of the paragraph:
>
>   Any player CAN pay 1 Pendant to flip the Pended switch of a
>   specified proposal to True. If the player did not create the
>   proposal and is not listed in the list of co-authors of the
>   proposal, e is added to the list of co-authors. When e does so,
>   the proposal becomes sponsored.]

TTttPF. My apologies to the Agoran public and the Promotor.

-Aris

BUS: [Proposal] Pending is not Co-authorship

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal.

-Aris
---
Title: Pending is not Co-authorship
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors:


[It's always felt weird to me that pending a proposal now
makes you a co-author. That's not what co-authorship
means, IMO. Also, it goes against my mental invariant
that proposals are immutable after creation.]

Amend rule 2622, "Pending Proposals", by deleting the text:

  If the player did not create the proposal and is not
  listed in the list of co-authors of the proposal,
  e is added to the list of co-authors.

[For context, here's the current text of the paragraph:

  Any player CAN pay 1 Pendant to flip the Pended switch of a
  specified proposal to True. If the player did not create the
  proposal and is not listed in the list of co-authors of the
  proposal, e is added to the list of co-authors. When e does so,
  the proposal becomes sponsored.]

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Officializing Discord [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 4:57 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
 wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 1:29 PM ATMunn via agora-business
>  wrote:
> > With all that said, I submit (but do not pend) the following proposal.
> >
> > Title: Officializing Discord
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: ATMunn
> > Co-authors:
> >
> > {
> >The Publicity switch of the Discord server having the ID of
> >724077429412331560 and being accessible from the permanent invite link
> >of https://discord.gg/tz2u6m7 is hereby flipped to Discussion.
> > }
> >
> > --
> > ATMunn
> > friendly neighborhood notary :)
>
> I pend this proposal. Please note that this does not convey
> endorsement, merely that I think this should be voted upon.
>
> -Aris

TTttPF.

-Aris

BUS: [Proposal] Determinacy is a Good Thing

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal.

-Aris
---
Title: Determinacy is a Good Thing
Adoption index: 1.7
Author: Aris
Co-authors:


[Note that Gaelan's win should have been processed by the time
this is adopted, unless there's an appeal.]

Amend Rule 591, "Delivering Judgements", by removing the text:

  * PARADOXICAL, appropriate if the statement is logically
undecidable as a result of a paradox or or other irresovable
logical situation. PARADOXICAL is not appropriate if IRRELEVANT
is appropriate, nor is it appropriate if the undecidability
arises from the case itself or in reference to it.

and:

  DISMISS is not appropriate if PARADOXICAL is appropriate.

Repeal Rule 2553, "Win by Paradox".

BUS: CFJ 3907 Judged PARADOXICAL

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

Judge's Arguments for CFJ 3907

Gaelan pledged "I pledge to violate this pledge,
with a time window of one day." (Eir other pledge,
which may or may not exist, is substantively equivalent
for the purposes of this CFJ.) A day passed. Did Gaelan
violate this pledge?

There are two possibilities.

1) Gaelan created a pledge that refers to itself,
causing an infinite loop. In this case, the CFJ is
PARADOXICAL.

2) Gaelan's purported pledge does not properly specify
actions to perform or refrain from performing, since
determining the actions results in an infinite loop.
In this case, the CFJ is DISMISS.

Another way of looking at it is that this all depends
on whether the action can have a parameter. In other
words, can I pledge, for all Y "I pledge to take an
action X, such that X accomplishes Y"? Can I never
pledge this? Or can I only pledge this if it's clear
what sort of X accomplishes Y? This is determinative
because Gaelan's pledge can be translated to "I pledge
to take an action X, such that X violates this pledge".

I think it's clear that "I pledge to not violate the
rules" is a valid pledge. We have a reasonably clear
notion of what sorts of things violate the rules.
I think it's equally clear that, as G. pointed out,
"I pledge that the sun will rise tomorrow" is invalid,
given that the sun rising is not an action taken by
any Agoran (unless Helios happens to be a player).
The question in this case is, would the
pledge "I pledge not to do anything that would
cause the sun not rise is valid" be valid?
That's harder to figure out.

"But Aris," you say, "you haven't looked at the
text. Surely the text solves this problem and you're
just making things more complicated than
they need to be." Alright, let's look at the text.

Rule 2450/10, "Pledges", says "If a consenting Player
makes a clear public pledge (syn. Oath) to perform
(or refrain from performing) certain actions, then
breaking the pledge is ILLEGAL".

One thing is certain: pledges must be clear.
Unfortunately, this doesn't resolve the case. The
relevant question is whether the "certain actions"
must be clear. That is, do I need to know the
specific actions that would violate the pledge,
or merely the categories of actions that might.
The text can be read either way. Textually,
I would say that these interpretations are
equally plausible.

Can we resolve this problem through game custom?
If we error trap anything that can cause a paradox,
we will have no paradoxes. Does game custom
say this is a good or a bad thing? The answer is
unfortunately rather mixed. For many years,
Agora had a way to win by paradox. In such a system,
I would guess that  while people tried to prevent
paradoxes, they would be tolerant of the notion that
they might arise anyway. Then that win method
was repealed. Agora went through a period where
paradoxes didn't help anything, simply making
the state of the game more confusing. In this
period, judges avoided paradox wherever possible.
Then, we reenacted wins by paradox. Now, it
is culturally unclear whether paradoxes are to be
avoided or embraced in judicial interpretation.

However, there is one norm that is abundantly
clear. Actions cannot be structured to be
paradoxical in and of themselves: if an
action is specified in a way that resolves
to an infinite loop, it is not taken at all.
For instance, "If this sentence is false, I..."
doesn't work. When taken, an action must be
fully and completely specified.

One final point about game custom. While it is
not necessarily the most persuasive factor,
Agorans in general take a fairly
math/logic/programming view of the game.
In this view, allowing things to be defined
parametrically seems natural. Nevertheless,
I do not feel this is a strong enough basis
that it determines the result of the case.

If game custom does not resolve the matter, is
there another guide? Let's look at the
best interests of the game. At first,
I avoided looking at the best interests
of the game when conducting this analysis.
After all, it seems fairly unclear whether
allowing paradoxes to arise is in the best
interests of the game. Are they fun or
destructive? However, there is another way
of applying the best interests of the game.
It is indisputably in the best interests
of the game for interpretation to be
congruent with the spirit of the rules. If
we assumed that all paradoxes were
impossible, we wouldn't have a PARADOXICAL
verdict or wins by paradox.

Pledges aren't error trapped in the same way
other things are. The action specified by a
pledge isn't a final action being taken by a
player, it's an abstract specification of what
sorts of things a player is or isn't allowed
to do. We do allow paradoxes when something
isn't error trapped and an infinite loop can be
created. Given all that, I conclude that pledges
can be parametric and Gaelan's pledge was
validly specified. This case is PARADOXICAL.

I have some final notes. First, we need to
resolve the cultural dissonance between
a model that is 

Re: BUS: *sigh*

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 8:57 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I plan to flip my focus to Legislation.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason


As do I.

-Aris

Re: BUS: A Business Dealing [attn. Notary]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 12:42 AM Aris Merchant
 wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 12:17 AM Aris Merchant via agora-business
>  wrote:
> >
> > I create and join the following contract:
> >
> > {
> > If Aris has paid Murphy 350 coins, Aris CAN once
> > cause Murphy to transfer a single victory card to em.
> > E SHALL pay the coins and complete the transfer in a timely fashion.
> >
> > Alternatively, if Murphy does not have a victory card and
> > has not transferred one to Aris, then Aris may once create
> > 2 blots in Murphy's possession; e need not pay Murphy
> > to do so.
> >
> > If it is after the beginning of July 1, 2021, any party may terminate
> > this contract by announcement.
> > }
>
>
> Uhh, I destroy this contract. False alarm.

I don't suppose I can convince y'all that I'm not trying to take over
the economy at this point?

Also, I've been advised to mention the UNDEAD. I'm sure that's nothing
to worry about though.

-Aris

Re: BUS: A Business Dealing [attn. Notary]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 12:17 AM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I create and join the following contract:
>
> {
> If Aris has paid Murphy 350 coins, Aris CAN once
> cause Murphy to transfer a single victory card to em.
> E SHALL pay the coins and complete the transfer in a timely fashion.
>
> Alternatively, if Murphy does not have a victory card and
> has not transferred one to Aris, then Aris may once create
> 2 blots in Murphy's possession; e need not pay Murphy
> to do so.
>
> If it is after the beginning of July 1, 2021, any party may terminate
> this contract by announcement.
> }


Uhh, I destroy this contract. False alarm.

-Aris

BUS: A Business Dealing [attn. Notary]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I create and join the following contract:

{
If Aris has paid Murphy 350 coins, Aris CAN once
cause Murphy to transfer a single victory card to em.
E SHALL pay the coins and complete the transfer in a timely fashion.

Alternatively, if Murphy does not have a victory card and
has not transferred one to Aris, then Aris may once create
2 blots in Murphy's possession; e need not pay Murphy
to do so.

If it is after the beginning of July 1, 2021, any party may terminate
this contract by announcement.
}

-Aris

Re: BUS: A Contractual Agreement

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 1:33 PM Rose Strong via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> Only Aris and Cuddlybanana can join this contract; they can
> each do so by announcement.
>
> If Aris publishes a text with the hash
> a2dea1a0bfb01b57cd3a52667ca6bbb4146d729f627746a6c1910f995a1ddeba81bf11d1a578ca05fa7acb219d9a65bbd7bdb81db6ee99513cedb69f34a9c3fa
> and states that e amends this contract to have that text,
> it is so amended.
>
> If it is after July 1, 2021, any party may destroy it by
> announcement.

I join this contract.

-Aris

BUS: [Registrar] Deactivation

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I intend, with notice, to make R. Lee inactive.
I intend, with notice, to make Aenet inactive.
I intend, with notice, to make cuddlybanana inactive.
I intend, with notice, to make Jumble inactive.

BUS: Collecting My Due [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I gain a voting card, per my focus.

-Aris

Re: BUS: There's no way this works, right?

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I favor this CFJ. I have some vague thoughts, but I don't actually know how
I'm going to rule yet, so arguments are quite welcome.

-Aris

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:32 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> CFJ: I have violated one of the quoted pledges.
>
> Gaelan
>
> > On May 22, 2021, at 5:45 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >> On May 22, 2021, at 5:44 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I pledge to violate this pledge, with a time window of one hour.
> >>
> >> (There has to be a paradox protection for pledges somewhere, right?
> Right But I can't find it, so let's find out)
> >>
> >> Gaelan
> >
> > wait, oops: I pledge to violate this pledge, with a time window of one
> day.
> >
> > Gaelan
>
>

BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal 8558 [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 1:11 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
 wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:38 PM Jason Cobb via agora-official
>  wrote:
> >
> > RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8558
> > 
> >
> > IDTitle  Result
> > 
> > 8558  Silver Quill 2020  ADOPTED
> >
> > I hereby resolve the Agoran decisions to adopt the below proposals.
> >
> > The quorum for all below decisions was 3.
> >
> > The following sponsored adopted proposals have the highest popularity 
> > (0.800): 8558 (by Aris).
>
> I gain a legislative card.
>
> -Aris

TTttPF.

-Aris

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Awarding the Silver Quill [attn. Herald, Rulekeepor, Tailor]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 1:10 AM Aris Merchant via agora-official
 wrote:
>
> THEREFORE, LET IT BE KNOWN that we, hereby bestow the
> Patent Title Silver Quill 2020 upon each of nix and Aris; and
>
> FURTHERMORE, LET IT BE KNOWN that we hereby cause rule 2650,
> "Silver Quill 2020", which has completed its purpose, to repeal
> itself.

Flagging this for the Herald and Rulekeepor.

Also, I award each of nix and myself violet glitter.

-Aris

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8558

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 6:17 PM Falsifian via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 09, 2021 at 01:59:06PM -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-official 
> wrote:
> > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
> >
> > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> > and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote 
> > collector
> > is the Assessor, the quorum is 3, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> > valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> > conditional votes).
> >
> > ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> > ---
> > 8558&   Aris2.0   Silver Quill 2020

I vote FOR. Thank you, everyone, for the support and endorsements.

-Aris

BUS: [Proposal] Silver Quill 2020 [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal and pay a pendant to pend it.

-Aris
---
Title: Silver Quill 2020
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors:


[This enables me to award the Silver Quill, and is necessary
because one of the proposals was selected after the official deadline.
I set it up as a temporary rule because I still want to do the
big announcement where I actually award the title.]

Enact a power 2.0 rule, entitled "Silver Quill 2020", with
the following text:

  The Promotor CAN once, by announcement, award the patent title
  Silver Quill 2020 to nix for eir authorship of Proposal 8408,
  "Sets v1.4".

  The Promotor CAN once, by announcement, award the patent title
  Silver Quill 2020 to Aris for eir authorship of Proposal 8514,
  "The Buoyant Economy".

  The Promotor CAN cause this rule to repeal itself by announcement,
  and SHALL do so in a timely fashion after its enactment.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Registrar] Deregistrations of Inactive Players

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 3:52 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
 wrote:
>
>
> > On May 1, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business 
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister Nathan.
> >
> > Without 3 objections, I do so.
>
> This fails, as Nathan just became active.

Whoops. Somehow totally missed that message. It was marked as read, so
I must have clicked on it but... in any case, sending this to BUS so
that there's a public record of the failure.

-Aris

BUS: Re: [Registrar] Deregistrations of Inactive Players

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 1:55 PM Aris Merchant
 wrote:
>
> Three players were inactivated on February 14. As it has now been more
> than 60 days since then, it is time to deregister them. In accordance
> with the rules, this message is being sent both to agora-business and
> to the email address of each involved player.
>
> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister grok.

Without 3 objections, I do so.

> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister Nathan.

Without 3 objections, I do so.

> I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister Shy Owl.

Without 3 objections, I do so.

Re: BUS: [Promotor] Silver Quill Process and Nominees

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 4:14 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> There were a lot of proposals last year: by my very rough count,
> the most of any year since 2013, and more than twice as many as in 2019.
> Given the large number of worthy proposals, I'm choosing
> a bit of an unusual structure this year.
>
> I have divided proposals into two categories. First are the nominees,
> which consist of those excellent proposals that prompted significant
> gameplay, adding to the story of Agora. Second are the honorable
> mentions, which consist the larger number of proposals that were
> interesting or creative enough to make me smile when I was looking
> through the proposals, but did not have the same degree of gameplay impact,
> and in some cases did not even pass.
>
> There will now be a few days of discussion. During this time, people
> can say which proposals they think will receive the final award,
> as well as suggesting any proposals that should be added or moved
> between lists. Given the outstanding showing this year, I will consider
> awarding the Quill to between 1 and 3 proposals. If you are pressed for
> time, I suggest not going over the honorable mentions, and just looking
> at my nominees and any proposals nominated by other players.
>
>
> Nominees:
>
> IDAuthor(s)AITitle
> ---
> 8360  Alexis   3.0   Social Distancing
> 8407  G.   2.0   no stinking auction definitions
> 8408  nix, [1] 3.0   Sets v1.4
> 8483  G.   1.0   a minor adjustment
> 8514  Aris, nix, Trigon, [2]   3.0   The Buoyant Economy
> 8521  Jason, G., [3]   2.0   Stones


I'm planning to write up a lengthier nomination statement, but the
month is almost gone, so I'll have to get the intent going and write
up the nomination statement later. I'd appreciate it if people could
hold off supporting and objecting for a day or two until I get that
sorted out. Anyone reading this in the history in the distant future,
check next month's BUS and OFF logs for more details.

I intend, with 2 Agoran consent, to award nix the patent title Silver
Quill 2020, for eir authorship of proposal 8408, "Sets v1.4".

Re: BUS: (@treasuror) where did april go

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:32 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
 wrote:
>
>
> I grant myself a legislative card (focus).  -G.

I gain a voting card, from my focus.

-Aris

BUS: [Promotor] Silver Quill Proposed Honorable Mentions

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

Proposed honorable mentions:

IDAuthor(s)AITitle
---
8291  Bernie, [4]  3.0   Interesting Chambers v3.1
8303  Aris, [5]3.0   Contract Patency v3
8336  Jason3.0   Define "publicly"
8354  Alexis, [6]  3.0   Statutory Instrumentation
8363  Warrigal 1.0   Somebody gets a coin
8388  nix  1.0   The Webmastor
8402  Aris, Falsifian  3.0   Promises
8409  Aris 3.0   College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences
8441  nix, Trigon  1.0   Transmutation
8476  ATMunn, [7]  1.0   Contract charities
8487  Murphy, R. Lee   3.0   Simpler ribbon switches
#NaN  Gaelan   2.0   Agoran Bit-streaming

[4] Trigon, Aris, Gaelan, G., Jason, twg
[5] Gaelan, Jason, Falsifian
[6] Murphy, Aris, Gaelan
[7] G., Falsifian, PSS


The full text of all proposed honorable mentions is below. For reasons
of space, the full text of the nominees is in a seperate message.

//
ID: 8360
Title: Social Distancing
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Alexis
Co-authors:


Enact a new power-3.01 rule entitled "Eclipse Light", reading as follows:
{{
  An emergency message is one whose subject line contains the text
"[Emergency]".

  The Prime Minister CAN, in an emergency message and with 3 Agoran
  consent, enact, amend, or repeal Emergency Regulations, provided that
  the intent to do so was also contained in an emergency message.

  Emergency Regulations CAN:
- Extend any deadline provided for by any instrument other than this
  rule, including a deadline for an obligation to be met, or deadline
  prior to which an action must be performed in order to be valid, such
  as the end of voting period. Such an extension CANNOT cause the total
  time period, such as the time from when an obligation was created to
  the deadline or the whole of a voting period, to be more than double
  its original length.
- Create, destroy, or transfer assets, or require or forbid their
  creation, destruction, or transfer.
- Cause one or more players to win Agora.
- Appoint or remove officeholders.
- Modify the Festivity.
- Award Patent Titles not mentioned in any Rule and Badges.
- Modify the Publicity of Fora.

  The Prime Minister CAN, in an emergency message and with 4 Agoran
  Consent, provided that the intent to do so was also contained in an
  emergency message, Extend the Emergency.

  If the Prime Minister has not Extended the Emergency in the past
  month, any player CAN cause this rule to repeal all Emergency
  Regulations and then itself.

  If the Prime Minister has not sent a message to a public forum in the
  preceding four days, the Speaker CAN exercise eir powers under this
  rule as if e were the Prime Minister, and notwithstanding any rule
  that would prohibit a single player from holding both offices.
}}

[I don't think we actually need an emergency rule. But deadline
extensions might be nice, and I figure a little bit of levity might
help us all.]

[Knowing us, we will manage to not only pass it too late, but also too soon.]

//
ID: 8407
Title: no stinking auction definitions
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: G.
Co-authors:


Repeal Rule 2584 (Free Auctions)
Repeal Rule 2552 (Auction Termination)
Repeal Rule 2551 (Auction End)
Repeal Rule 2550 (Bidding)
Repeal Rule 2549 (Auction Initiation)

Amend Rule 2545 (Auctions) to read in full:

  An auction is a way for entities to give away specified assets
  (items), grouped into lots, in exchange for a currency. A lot is a
  non-empty list of items to be transferred to a single recipient
  (an auction winner).

  When the rules authorize a person (the auctioneer) to conduct an
  auction, e CAN do so by any wholly public method that would be
  generally recognizable, as specified by the auctioneer at the
  start of the auction, and under common definitions and terms used
  in auctions, as a fair, equitable, and timely means of determining
  the auction winners from among the current players, and enabling
  the appropriate exchange of goods.

  The rule that authorizes the auction further authorizes the
  auctioneer or auction winners to transfer said items as necessary
  to conduct the auction in a manner consistent with the auction
  method. If the authorization is to auction "new" items, it further
  authorizes the creation of said items as per the chosen method.

  The Treasuror is the promulgator for regulations that define
  specific auction methods (i.e. "the default auction method") and
  SHOULD do in order to aid trade and commerce.  For the purposes of
  interpreting auction definitions, such methods are treated as if
  they are defined in this rule. To further aid trade and commerce,
  auction 

BUS: [Promotor] Silver Quill Process and Nominees

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

There were a lot of proposals last year: by my very rough count,
the most of any year since 2013, and more than twice as many as in 2019.
Given the large number of worthy proposals, I'm choosing
a bit of an unusual structure this year.

I have divided proposals into two categories. First are the nominees,
which consist of those excellent proposals that prompted significant
gameplay, adding to the story of Agora. Second are the honorable
mentions, which consist the larger number of proposals that were
interesting or creative enough to make me smile when I was looking
through the proposals, but did not have the same degree of gameplay impact,
and in some cases did not even pass.

There will now be a few days of discussion. During this time, people
can say which proposals they think will receive the final award,
as well as suggesting any proposals that should be added or moved
between lists. Given the outstanding showing this year, I will consider
awarding the Quill to between 1 and 3 proposals. If you are pressed for
time, I suggest not going over the honorable mentions, and just looking
at my nominees and any proposals nominated by other players.


Nominees:

IDAuthor(s)AITitle
---
8360  Alexis   3.0   Social Distancing
8407  G.   2.0   no stinking auction definitions
8408  nix, [1] 3.0   Sets v1.4
8483  G.   1.0   a minor adjustment
8514  Aris, nix, Trigon, [2]   3.0   The Buoyant Economy
8521  Jason, G., [3]   2.0   Stones

Proposed honorable mentions:

IDAuthor(s)AITitle
---
8291  Bernie, [4]  3.0   Interesting Chambers v3.1
8303  Aris, [5]3.0   Contract Patency v3
8336  Jason3.0   Define "publicly"
8354  Alexis, [6]  3.0   Statutory Instrumentation
8363  Warrigal 1.0   Somebody gets a coin
8388  nix  1.0   The Webmastor
8402  Aris, Falsifian  3.0   Promises
8409  Aris 3.0   College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences
8441  nix, Trigon  1.0   Transmutation
8476  ATMunn, [7]  1.0   Contract charities
8487  Murphy, R. Lee   3.0   Simpler ribbon switches
#NaN  Gaelan   2.0   Agoran Bit-streaming

[1] Trigon, Falsifian, PSS, Jason, Aris, G., ais523
[2] nix, Trigon, G., Jason, ATMunn
[3] G., Aris, nix, Trigon, Gaelan, Falsifian
[4] Trigon, Aris, Gaelan, G., Jason, twg
[5] Gaelan, Jason, Falsifian
[6] Murphy, Aris, Gaelan
[7] G., Falsifian, PSS

The full text of all nominees is below. For reasons of space,
the full text of the proposed honorable mentions will be in a seperate
message.

//
ID: 8360
Title: Social Distancing
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Alexis
Co-authors:


Enact a new power-3.01 rule entitled "Eclipse Light", reading as follows:
{{
  An emergency message is one whose subject line contains the text
"[Emergency]".

  The Prime Minister CAN, in an emergency message and with 3 Agoran
  consent, enact, amend, or repeal Emergency Regulations, provided that
  the intent to do so was also contained in an emergency message.

  Emergency Regulations CAN:
- Extend any deadline provided for by any instrument other than this
  rule, including a deadline for an obligation to be met, or deadline
  prior to which an action must be performed in order to be valid, such
  as the end of voting period. Such an extension CANNOT cause the total
  time period, such as the time from when an obligation was created to
  the deadline or the whole of a voting period, to be more than double
  its original length.
- Create, destroy, or transfer assets, or require or forbid their
  creation, destruction, or transfer.
- Cause one or more players to win Agora.
- Appoint or remove officeholders.
- Modify the Festivity.
- Award Patent Titles not mentioned in any Rule and Badges.
- Modify the Publicity of Fora.

  The Prime Minister CAN, in an emergency message and with 4 Agoran
  Consent, provided that the intent to do so was also contained in an
  emergency message, Extend the Emergency.

  If the Prime Minister has not Extended the Emergency in the past
  month, any player CAN cause this rule to repeal all Emergency
  Regulations and then itself.

  If the Prime Minister has not sent a message to a public forum in the
  preceding four days, the Speaker CAN exercise eir powers under this
  rule as if e were the Prime Minister, and notwithstanding any rule
  that would prohibit a single player from holding both offices.
}}

[I don't think we actually need an emergency rule. But deadline
extensions might be nice, and I figure a little bit of levity might
help us all.]

[Knowing us, we will manage to not 

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Awards Month - Employee of the Year nominations

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 2:14 PM ATMunn via agora-business
 wrote:
> > For each of the following players, I intend (with 2 Agoran consent) to
> > award Employee of the Year to em: Aris, ATMunn, Falsifian, G., Jason,
> > Murphy, PSS, Trigon.
>
> I support the intent for Trigon. (Nothing against the others, I just
> think Trigon has put in a lot of hard work and has one of the toughest
> jobs right now.)

ATMunn's reasoning makes sense. I support the intent for Trigon.

-Aris

BUS: [Registrar] Deregistrations of Inactive Players

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

Three players were inactivated on February 14. As it has now been more
than 60 days since then, it is time to deregister them. In accordance
with the rules, this message is being sent both to agora-business and
to the email address of each involved player.

I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister grok.

I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister Nathan.

I intend, without 3 objections, to deregister Shy Owl.

If you are one of the players listed, you may prevent your
deregistration by sending a message in reply to this one, addressed to
agora-business, stating "I become active." Before you do this, please
consider whether there's actually a chance you might want to resume
active play.

BUS: [Promotor] Removal

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:09 AM nix via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On Saturday, April 3, 2021 8:42:46 AM CDT nix via agora-business wrote:
> > Amen R2154,
>
> Drat.
>
> I withdraw the proposal "The Election Cycle" and submit the following
> proposal:
>
> {
>
> Title: The Election Cycle v1.1
> Adoption index: 2
> Author: nix
> Co-authors: G., Aris

I remove this proposal from the proposal pool.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Intent to award a degree to Jason for "Voting Thesis"

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 7:10 PM nix via agora-official
 wrote:
> I intend, with 2 Agoran consent, to award Jason the degree of Doctorate
> of Nomic Science.

I support.

Normally, I think this would be about the level of a Magisteriate. The
quality is high, the analysis is interesting, and the research has
sparked a lot of discussions about whether us agreeing so much is a
good thing or a bad thing. I think the contribution is at about the
"remarkable" target for a Magisteriate level degree.

However, the candidate already has a Magisteriate. This leaves us two
choices: we can go down, or we can go up. There are a few factors that
make me want to go up.

First, I have long believed that we are too sparing with high-level
degrees. I think that the standards of Agora in general are too high.
At our recent standard, barely any work in the entire history of the
game would qualify for a Doctorate. ais523's thesis on the
"Paraconsistency is overrated" debacle might, but I don't know what
else would. I believe it would do us good to push back, just a bit,
against that standard.

Second, Rule 1367 notes that "Any degree at the Doctorate level SHOULD
take into account the awardee's academic history and participation in
Agora over time." It is manifestly against this idea for us to punish
past academic success with a lower degree rather than rewarding it
with a higher one.

Finally, I come back to the quality of the work. Although this work
feels around the level of Magisteriate, I would say that, between the
"substantial" contribution for a Baccalaureate and the "exceptional"
contribution Doctorate, this work seems closer to the Doctoral level.
This is amplified by the type of Doctorate the thesis committee now
considers awarding. This is a Doctorate of Nomic Science, not a
Doctorate of Nomic Philosophy. The lack of subtle insight is little
obstacle to us awarding *this* degree. Simply put, this is one of the
most interesting analyses of a dataset I have seen in my time in
Agora, quite possibly the most interesting. Jason has taken the data e
had as Assessor and ran with it, putting it through nearly every kind
of analysis that I can think of and some that I probably couldn't
have. This thesis sets a new standard for Agoran science. In that
sense, it truly is an exceptional contribution to the game.

-Aris

BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal 8557 [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jason Cobb via agora-official
 wrote:
>
> RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8557
> 
>
> IDTitle  Result
> 
> 8557  Archimedes' Principle  ADOPTED
>
> I hereby resolve the Agoran decisions to adopt the below proposals.
>
> The quorum for all below decisions was 3.
>
> The following sponsored adopted proposals have the highest popularity 
> (0.800): 8557 (by Aris).

I gain a legislative card for popular proposing.

-Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cyan Ribbon Claim [attn. Tailor]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:37 PM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion <
agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> Aris wrote:
>
> > I award myself a cyan ribbon.
>
> Ineffective, you already had one.
>
I claim cyan glitter.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [Registrar] Deactivation

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 3:48 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I intend, with notice, to make lucidiot inactive.

With notice, I do so.

> I intend, with notice, to make JTAC inactive.

With notice, I do so.

> I intend, with notice, to make Ubercrow inactive.

With notice, I do so.

> I intend, with notice, to make Noah inactive.

With notice, I do so.

> I intend, with notice, to make Slam_Joe_Jr_Supreme inactive.

With notice, I do so.

> Note: I could make omd inactive, but I am currently disinclined to do so.

BUS: Voting for Justice

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I gain the following promise to myself and transfer it to the library:

{
Cashing condition: The bearer has transferred me a voting card in the
same message.

I transfer the bearer a justice card.
}

-Aris

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8557

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 2:37 PM Trigon via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On 4/5/21 5:17 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
> >
> > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> > and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote 
> > collector
> > is the Assessor, the quorum is 3, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> > valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> > conditional votes).
> >
> > ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> > ---
> > 8557&   Aris, Trigon, nix   2.0   Archimedes' Principle
I vote FOR.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [Registrar] Officializing Discord

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 4:13 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I intend, without objection, to modify the publicity of the Agora
> Nomic Chat Server (current invite: https://discord.gg/JCC6YGc) to
> discussion.

I object.

-Aris

BUS: [Promotor] Draft

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

Here's my draft.

-Aris
---
PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW

I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector
is the Assessor, the quorum is 3, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
conditional votes).

ID  Author(s)   AITitle
---
8557&   Aris, Trigon, nix   2.0   Archimedes' Principle

The proposal pool currently contains the following proposal(s):

Author(s)   AITitle
---
nix, G., Aris   2.0   The Election Cycle v1.1


Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
& : Ordinary proposal.
~ : Unsponsored proposal.

The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
the information shown above shall control.

//
ID: 8557
Title: Archimedes' Principle
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Aris
Co-author(s): Trigon, nix


[Changes:
  -The Treasuror sets a target for the Total Buoyancy every week;
   the most recent target takes effect at the beginning of the month
  -The Unit of Floatation is now rounded, so people can actually remember
   it (unlike the draft, I'm rounding up, to deal with cases
   where it's evenly between two integers)
  -The Treasuror no longer has a monthly report, and is instead
   just encouraged to make sure the Total Buoyancy and Unit of Floatation
   are published
]

Amend Rule 2634, "Buoyancy Control", by changing it to read in full:

  The Total Buoyancy and Buoyancy Target are singleton
  integer switches, tracked by the Treasuror in eir weekly report.

  The Treasuror CAN, by announcement, set the Buoyancy Target
  to a specified value approximately equal to the sum of all coin
  balances at a specified point within the last week,
  and SHALL do so each time e publishes eir weekly report.

  The Treasuror may exercise reasonable judgement in calculating the
  Buoyancy Target. The Buoyancy Target will be deemed set so long as
  the value chosen by the Treasuror is not obviously and grossly
  incorrect. However, the Treasuror SHALL NOT deliberately introduce
  error into the Buoyancy Target.

  At the beginning of each month, the Total Buoyancy is flipped to
  the Buoyancy Target.

Amend Rule 2635, "Floating Rate Fleet", by changing it to read in full:

  The Unit of Flotation is equal to 1/2500 times the Total Buoyancy,
  rounded up, and is tracked in the Treasuror's weekly report.
  A boatload of something is a quantity of that thing equal
  in count to the Unit of Floatation.

  The Treasuror is ENCOURAGED to arrange for the new Total Buoyancy
  and Unit of Flotation to be published as close as possible
  to the beginning of the month.


[No clue why this should be secured — granting assets isn't secured.
The reason I'm amending this is to make the payday happen
after the boatload value update; I'm open to other phrasings.]

Amend Rule 2559, "Paydays", by replacing:

  The occurrence of Paydays is secured. At the beginning of each
  month, a Payday occurs.

with:

  At the beginning of each month, after all other events that
  take place at the beginning of the month, a Payday occurs.


  Amend Rule 2559, "Paydays", by replacing:

The occurrence of Paydays is secured. At the beginning of each
month, a Payday occurs.

  with:

At the beginning of each month, after all other events that
take place at the beginning of the month, a Payday occurs.

//
ID: 8557
Title: Archimedes' Principle
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Aris
Co-author(s): Trigon, nix


[Changes:
  -The Treasuror sets a target for the Total Buoyancy every week;
   the most recent target takes effect at the beginning of the month
  -The Unit of Floatation is now rounded, so people can actually remember
   it (unlike the draft, I'm rounding up, to deal with cases
   where it's evenly between two integers)
  -The Treasuror no longer has a monthly report, and is instead
   just encouraged to make sure the Total Buoyancy and Unit of Floatation
   are published
]

Amend Rule 2634, "Buoyancy Control", by changing it to read in full:

  The Total Buoyancy and Buoyancy Target are singleton
  integer switches, tracked by the Treasuror in eir weekly report.

  The Treasuror CAN, by announcement, set the Buoyancy Target
  to a specified value approximately equal to the sum of all coin
  balances at a specified point within the last week,
  and SHALL do so each time e publishes eir weekly report.

  The Treasuror may exercise reasonable judgement in calculating the
  Buoyancy Target. The Buoyancy Target will be deemed set so long as
  

BUS: [Proposal] Archimedes' Principle

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal and pay a pendant to pend it.

-Aris
---
Title: Archimedes' Principle
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Aris
Co-author(s): Trigon, nix


[Changes:
  -The Treasuror sets a target for the Total Buoyancy every week;
   the most recent target takes effect at the beginning of the month
  -The Unit of Floatation is now rounded, so people can actually remember
   it (unlike the draft, I'm rounding up, to deal with cases
   where it's evenly between two integers)
  -The Treasuror no longer has a monthly report, and is instead
   just encouraged to make sure the Total Buoyancy and Unit of Floatation
   are published
]

Amend Rule 2634, "Buoyancy Control", by changing it to read in full:

  The Total Buoyancy and Buoyancy Target are singleton
  integer switches, tracked by the Treasuror in eir weekly report.

  The Treasuror CAN, by announcement, set the Buoyancy Target
  to a specified value approximately equal to the sum of all coin
  balances at a specified point within the last week,
  and SHALL do so each time e publishes eir weekly report.

  The Treasuror may exercise reasonable judgement in calculating the
  Buoyancy Target. The Buoyancy Target will be deemed set so long as
  the value chosen by the Treasuror is not obviously and grossly
  incorrect. However, the Treasuror SHALL NOT deliberately introduce
  error into the Buoyancy Target.

  At the beginning of each month, the Total Buoyancy is flipped to
  the Buoyancy Target.

Amend Rule 2635, "Floating Rate Fleet", by changing it to read in full:

  The Unit of Flotation is equal to 1/2500 times the Total Buoyancy,
  rounded up, and is tracked in the Treasuror's weekly report.
  A boatload of something is a quantity of that thing equal
  in count to the Unit of Floatation.

  The Treasuror is ENCOURAGED to arrange for the new Total Buoyancy
  and Unit of Flotation to be published as close as possible
  to the beginning of the month.


[No clue why this should be secured — granting assets isn't secured.
The reason I'm amending this is to make the payday happen
after the boatload value update; I'm open to other phrasings.]

Amend Rule 2559, "Paydays", by replacing:

  The occurrence of Paydays is secured. At the beginning of each
  month, a Payday occurs.

with:

  At the beginning of each month, after all other events that
  take place at the beginning of the month, a Payday occurs.


  Amend Rule 2559, "Paydays", by replacing:

The occurrence of Paydays is secured. At the beginning of each
month, a Payday occurs.

  with:

At the beginning of each month, after all other events that
take place at the beginning of the month, a Payday occurs.

Re: BUS: [Registrar] Officializing Discord

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 4:13 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I intend, without objection, to modify the publicity of the Agora
> Nomic Chat Server (current invite: https://discord.gg/JCC6YGc) to
> discussion.
>
> There have been several concerns raised that have prevented us from
> doing this before now. One is that the platform is proprietary.
> However, it has demonstrated that it is likely to stay around for a
> while, and is certainly no worse from a data retention perspective
> than IRC, which is totally ephemeral. We could even ask Jason if e
> would be willing to bridge some of the channels that aren't currently
> bridged to IRC so people could access it that way.
>
> Furthermore, the lack of "official recognition" has not prevented the
> widespread unofficial use of the Discord server. Not everyone has
> joined, but according to G., about as many players have taken part in
> the Discord as took part in our IRC channel in its heyday. I do not
> think there is any benefit to withholding recognition under these
> circumstances — the effect of doing so is simply to have a misleading
> fora list.

Let the record reflect that a copy of the preceding message has now
been relayed to the Discord server.

BUS: [Registrar] Officializing Discord

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I intend, without objection, to modify the publicity of the Agora
Nomic Chat Server (current invite: https://discord.gg/JCC6YGc) to
discussion.

There have been several concerns raised that have prevented us from
doing this before now. One is that the platform is proprietary.
However, it has demonstrated that it is likely to stay around for a
while, and is certainly no worse from a data retention perspective
than IRC, which is totally ephemeral. We could even ask Jason if e
would be willing to bridge some of the channels that aren't currently
bridged to IRC so people could access it that way.

Furthermore, the lack of "official recognition" has not prevented the
widespread unofficial use of the Discord server. Not everyone has
joined, but according to G., about as many players have taken part in
the Discord as took part in our IRC channel in its heyday. I do not
think there is any benefit to withholding recognition under these
circumstances — the effect of doing so is simply to have a misleading
fora list.

BUS: [Registrar] Deactivation

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I intend, with notice, to make lucidiot inactive.
I intend, with notice, to make JTAC inactive.
I intend, with notice, to make Ubercrow inactive.
I intend, with notice, to make Noah inactive.
I intend, with notice, to make Slam_Joe_Jr_Supreme inactive.

Note: I could make omd inactive, but I am currently disinclined to do so.

BUS: Cyan Ribbon Claim [attn. Tailor]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I award myself a cyan ribbon.

-Aris

BUS: Trying Out Judging Again [attn. Arbitor]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I'm interested in judging a case sometime. If possible, I request one
that isn't incredibly complex.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [CFJ] R. Lee's vote

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 9:09 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I CFJ, barring R. Lee: "R. Lee's votes on the referendums on proposals
> 8549 and 8552-8555 were clearly specified."
>
> Caller's arguments:
>
> On the relevant decisions, R. Lee voted "I vote AGAINST all agoran
> decisions that add overall text to the ruleset, and PRESENT on the
> rest." This is clearly an attempted conditional vote. The question is
> whether it is clearly specified under Rule 2127.
>
> Per Rule 2127, they are clearly specified if and only if they were
> determinate at the end of the voting period, and they are determinate if
> the values can be "reasonably determined [...] from information
> reasonably available" (the other possibilities clearly do not apply).
>
> The information that this depends on is certainly "reasonably
> available", as it is just the text of the proposals as well as the text
> of the rules (assuming we are correct in our understanding of the text
> of the rules, which is hopefully the case). This means that this case
> depends on whether the vote can be "reasonably determined" from that
> information.
>
> In general, evaluating proposals to determine whether they add or remove
> text is arguably not "reasonably determined", as it involves evaluating
> potentially arbitrary text. However, real distributions do not contain
> proposals with arbitrary text, and the proposals in this specific
> distribution are, individually, relatively easy to count characters
> added/removed on. Perhaps that's sufficient for this specific case to be
> considered "reasonable effort", but that's potentially opening a can of
> worms for large, perhaps unreasonable, workloads for the Assessor.
>

Gratuitous:

I think opening this particular can of worms is a bad idea. It's just
too hard to expect the Assessor, or anyone really, to interpret the
effects of a proposal. First of all, it would basically require the
Assessor to start doing ruleset diffs to resolve proposals, which is
potentially a lot of extra work. Secondly, we often have proposals
whose effects are incorrectly understood; for instance, due to
insufficient power. This would put the Assessor in the position of
having to figure out which portions of a proposal would be effective
to resolve it. This sort of burden might be reasonable determination
for the Rulekeepor, but it isn't reasonable for the Assessor, even if
they happen to be the same person at the moment. Furthermore, I'd
consider it preferable for *everyone* to be able to determine how a
vote resolves with reasonable effort. If it's unreasonable to ask the
Assessor to do this, it's even more unreasonable to ask the average
player who's just trying to tally the votes on each side of the
proposal for their own reference to do it.

I'd honestly consider this a misuse of conditionals. The primary goal
of conditionals is to account for uncertainty or future changes, not
to offload work from the players to the responsible officers. This
conditional is too far in that direction.

As a final minor note, "overall text" is poorly defined in general.
Are we counting words or characters? While this is a decidedly
secondary consideration, the vote may have been insufficiently clearly
phrased.

-Aris

BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] The Notes (pledges & promises)

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 7:49 AM ATMunn via agora-official
 wrote:
>
> This is a continuation of the Notary's weekly report. Information about
> contracts can be found in a separate message.
>
> 
>  HISTORY OF PLEDGES & PROMISES =
> 
>
> 21 Mar 2021: Jason made the pledge "General objection"
> -- time of last report --
> 11 Mar 2021: The pledge "You can make it happen, R. Lee!" expired
> -- 2 reports ago --
> 09 Mar 2021: Aris cashed the promise e created
> 09 Mar 2021: Aris created a promise
> 06 Mar 2021: The pledge "Referee Electoral Pledge" expired
> 01 Mar 2021: The pledge "CFJ annotations please" expired
> 28 Feb 2021: G. cashed the promise "Neverending PRESENT"[2]
> 28 Feb 2021: G. created the promise "Neverending PRESENT"
> -- 3 reports ago --
> 20 Feb 2021: Falsifian destroyed the promise "Hopefully Last Assignment
> Fallback" w/o objection
> 20 Feb 2021: Falsifian destroyed the promise "Another Assginment
> Fallback" w/o objection
> 20 Feb 2021: Falsifian destroyed the promise "Assignment Fallback" w/o
> objection
> 17 Feb 2021: G. cashed an instance of the promise "Two by two"
> 14 Feb 2021: Falsifian created the promise "Hopefully Last Assignment
> Fallback"
> 14 Feb 2021: Jason cashed the promise created by Falsifian
> 14 Feb 2021: Falsifian created a promise
> 14 Feb 2021: Murphy granted nix the promise "Ratification compensation"
> 11 Feb 2021: Aris cashed the promise "Guess That Agoran"
> 08 Feb 2021: Trigon cashed the promise created by Jason
> 08 Feb 2021: Jason created a promise
> 08 Feb 2021: nix's pledge expired
> 06 Feb 2021: Jason cashed the promise nix granted em
> 06 Feb 2021: nix granted Jason a promise
> 06 Feb 2021: Jason cashed the promise created by Gaelan
> 04 Feb 2021: ATMunn[1] created the promise "Guess That Agoran"
> 03 Feb 2021: Falsifian cashed the promise nix granted em
> 03 Feb 2021: nix granted Falsifian an promise
> 03 Feb 2021: G. made the pledge "Rational dictatorship"
> 03 Feb 2021: Gaelan made the pledge "Keeping secrecy"
> 03 Feb 2021: Gaelan created a promise
> 02 Feb 2021: nix cashed the promise created by Aris
> 02 Feb 2021: Aris created a promise
> 02 Feb 2021: nix made a pledge
>
> [1] Sent from the email address "bunny.voo...@gmail.com"; this player
>  was later revealed to be ATMunn.
> [2] The promise purports to create another promise upon cashing and then
>  immediately cash that new promise; the effectiveness of this is
>  PARADOXICAL under CFJ 3901.

CoE: This is a misreading of CFJ 3901. CFJ 3901 stated that the
statement "The cashing of one or more promises created by G. has been
EFFECTIVE at changing the final vote tally and/or number of voters  on
the referendum to adopt Proposal 8543, for the purposes of R208, R879,
and/or R2623." was PARADOXICAL. The PARADOX was in the effect of the
promise, not the cashing; the promise was unambiguously cashed. Unless
I'm mistaken, the promise no longer exists, so the portion of your
report saying it does is in error.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [RWO Intent] 25000 coins

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:08 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> RWO might not work, but this is important enough to try.
>
> I intend to ratify the following document, without objection:
>
> "The Lost and Found Department owns 2282 coins"
>
> As it stands right now, the Treasuror's report draft indicate that the
> number of coins is 24954, and that the unit of flotation based on this
> would be 9.9816. My goal is to make this a round number because it's so
> tantalizingly close. I see this as not a rules-mandated but a moral
> obligation to the Agoran community.

I support.

I would support this under any circumstances. Trigon is right, this is
necessary. How could we live with ourselves if we passed such an
opportunity up?

However, there is an additional factor. I intend to submit a proposal
that will, among other things, round boatloads in the near future.
This would simplify the transition to the new regime.

The boatload is dead. Long live the boatload!

-Aris

Re: BUS: last-minute planning

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:44 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> I grant myself a voting card (ministry of participation).
>
> I plan to flip my ministry focus to legislation.
>
> -G.


If I have not yet done so this month, I gain a voting card.

-Aris

>

Re: BUS: Glitter Thread

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:55 AM Reuben Staley via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On 3/29/21 5:25 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> > I award myself Violet Glitter.
> >
> > [I suggest that others also claim their glitter in this thread to help
> > out the Tailor.]
> >
>
> I do the same.

I also claim violet glitter.


-Aris

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8554-8555 and Index of Proposals

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I vote as follows:

> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8549&   Aris, Gaelan, G.2.2   You Can Only Stack Turtles So High
FOR.
> 8552&   Jason, ais523   1.0   Apathy for all
AGAINST. I don't support this without a limitation to current and
former players, or a SHOULD limiting it to people involved with the
game. This will inevitably lead to "all humans" or "all persons"
winning at some point, which would be a mess.

> 8553&   Jason   1.0   Slightly less apathetic
AGAINST. This over-complicates the rule, which is currently sweet and simple.

> 8554&   Aris, nix   2.2   I Want My Promise Back!
FOR.
> 8555&   G.  1.0   something to vote on
PRESENT. Not a big fan of this (got bored of these ages ago), but I
don't want to ruin the fun. I may change my vote later (probably to
AGAINST, but who knows?).


-Aris

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8549-8553

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 5:41 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On 3/20/21 6:55 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> > ID: 8551
> > Title: I Want My Promise Back!
> > Author: Aris
> > Co-authors: nix
> > Adoption index: 2.2
> >
> >
> > The player who voted unambiguously FOR, and had the highest
> > unique[*] voting strength (at the end of the voting period) on,
> > the decision to adopt this proposal
> >
> >   is hereby granted
> >
> >     1 Victory Card   *
> >
> > [* "Highest unique" means if the top two are 15 and the next
> > highest is 14, and no one else is at 14, the 14 wins].
>
>
> CoE: this is an incorrect text/metadata pairing.

This CoE is correct. A revision will be published shortly, and it
would be appreciated if people could refrain from voting until then.
I'm sorry, everyone.

Solely to simplify the paperwork, I deny the above claim of error.
(I'll submit a new one in the fix message.)

-Aris

Re: BUS: [Treasuror] [Auction Regulations] Timing leniency amendments

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 1:57 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On 3/15/21 4:52 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> > I intended to publish something like this a few months ago but life
> > happened. My strict timing really did not help anything.
> >
> > I intend, with 2 Agoran consent, to apply the following amendment to the
> > auction regulations:
> >
> > ---
> > Amend AM0 by replacing the following text in the fourth bullet point
> > under "4. AWARDING":
> >within, four days after the ending of that auction,
> > with:
> >after the ending of that auction
> >
> > Then, by changing the following text under under CLAIMING:
> >For a period of seven days after an auction ends
> > with:
> >During the period from the end of the auction until 7 days after
> >the publication of the termination message
> > ---
> >

I support.

-Aris

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Resolution of Proposals 8545-8548 [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 5:35 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 3/9/21 8:31 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM Jason Cobb via agora-official
> >  wrote:
> >> RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8544-8548
> >> =
> >>
> >> IDTitle  Result
> >> 
> >> 8545  Uncanny Fixes  ADOPTED
> >> 8546  Talisn't   ADOPTED
> >> 8547  ER office restriction  ADOPTED
> >> 8548  Stone defaults ADOPTED
> >>
> >> I hereby resolve the Agoran decisions to adopt the below proposals.
> >>
> >> The quorum for all below decisions was 5.
> >>
> >> The following sponsored adopted proposals have the highest popularity
> (1.000): 8545 (by Aris).
> > I gain a legislative card for popular proposing.
> >
> > I pay 4 legislative cards as a set to gain 10 pendants.
> >
> > -Aris
>
>
> This fails. The referendum on P8544 was initiated in the same message
> and remains unresolved.


Alright, I'll give it another go. Should work now.

I gain a legislative card for popular proposing.

I pay 4 legislative cards as a set to gain 10 pendants.

-Aris

>

BUS: [Proposals] Promise Fixes

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I submit, and pay a pendant to pend, each of the following proposals.

-Aris
---
Title: You Can Only Stack Turtles So High
Adoption index: 2.2
Author: Aris
Co-authors: Gaelan, G.


[This fixes G.'s scam, which would otherwise allow indeterminacy to be
created through infinite promise loops.]

Amend Rule 2618, "Promises", by inserting, after the text:

  A promise's bearer CAN, by announcement, cash the promise,
  provided that any conditions for cashing it specified by its text
  are unambiguously met. By doing so, e acts on the creator of the
  promise's behalf, causing the creator to act as if e published the
  promise's text, and destroys the promise.

the text:

  However, to limit recursion, no promise can be cashed during the execution
  of another promise unless it existed before the execution of that promise
  began.

---
Title: I Want My Promise Back!
Adoption index: 2.2
Author: Aris
Co-authors: nix


[This is intended to remove the need to put in a special provision
to a promise allow the creator to destroy a promise in the possession of
the Library. Since that's usually what's wanted, this makes it the
default behavior, while still allowing the creator to override it.]

Amend Rule 2618, "Promises", by inserting, after the text:

  The Library is an entity and CAN own promises. Any player CAN take
  a specified promise from the Library by announcement, provided e
  cashes the promise in the same message.

the text:

  The creator of a promise CAN take or revoke it from the Library by
  announcement, unless the promise's text unambiguously designates
  it as irrevocable.

BUS: Re: OFF: Resolution of Proposals 8545-8548 [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM Jason Cobb via agora-official
 wrote:
>
> RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8544-8548
> =
>
> IDTitle  Result
> 
> 8545  Uncanny Fixes  ADOPTED
> 8546  Talisn't   ADOPTED
> 8547  ER office restriction  ADOPTED
> 8548  Stone defaults ADOPTED
>
> I hereby resolve the Agoran decisions to adopt the below proposals.
>
> The quorum for all below decisions was 5.
>
> The following sponsored adopted proposals have the highest popularity 
> (1.000): 8545 (by Aris).

I gain a legislative card for popular proposing.

I pay 4 legislative cards as a set to gain 10 pendants.

-Aris

Re: BUS: Buying a Legislative Card [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 4:52 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I gain the following promise and transfer it to the Library.
>
> {
> If I am the bearer of this promise, I may cash this promise at any
> time and it has no effect.
>
> Otherwise, the bearer can cash this promise if e has transferred a
> legislative card to me in the same message.
>
> I give the bearer 200 coins.
> }

If I have not already done so, I take the promise I created above from
the Library and cash it.

-Aris

BUS: Re: Buying a Legislative Card [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 3:29 PM Aris Merchant
 wrote:
>
> I gain the following promise and transfer it to the Library.
>
> {
> If I am the bearer of this promise, I may cash this promise at any
> time and it has no effect.
>
> Otherwise, the bearer can cash this promise if e has transferred a
> legislative card to me in the same message.
>
> I give the bearer 200 coins.
> }
>

I take the promise I created above from the Library and cash it.

-Aris

BUS: Buying a Legislative Card [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I gain the following promise and transfer it to the Library.

{
If I am the bearer of this promise, I may cash this promise at any
time and it has no effect.

Otherwise, the bearer can cash this promise if e has transferred a
legislative card to me in the same message.

I give the bearer 200 coins.
}

-Aris

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolutions of Proposals 8541-8543 [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 1:45 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 7:50 PM Jason Cobb via agora-official
>  wrote:
> >
> > RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8541-8543
> > =
> >
> > IDTitle Result
> > ---
> > 8541  You CAN, CAN'T You?   ADOPTED
> > 8542  Stone Excitement Act  ADOPTED
> > 8543  En Passant v2 ADOPTED
> >
> > I hereby resolve the Agoran decisions to adopt the below proposals.
> >
> > The quorum for all below decisions was 5.
> >
> > The following sponsored adopted proposals have the highest popularity 
> > (1.000): 8541 (by Aris), 8542 (by Jason).
>
> If I haven't done so yet, I gain a legislative card for popular proposing.

Wait, not sure that worked.

If I haven't done so yet this week, I gain a legislative card for
popular proposing.


-Aris

BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolutions of Proposals 8541-8543 [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 7:50 PM Jason Cobb via agora-official
 wrote:
>
> RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8541-8543
> =
>
> IDTitle Result
> ---
> 8541  You CAN, CAN'T You?   ADOPTED
> 8542  Stone Excitement Act  ADOPTED
> 8543  En Passant v2 ADOPTED
>
> I hereby resolve the Agoran decisions to adopt the below proposals.
>
> The quorum for all below decisions was 5.
>
> The following sponsored adopted proposals have the highest popularity 
> (1.000): 8541 (by Aris), 8542 (by Jason).

If I haven't done so yet, I gain a legislative card for popular proposing.

-Aris

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8544-8548

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I vote as follows:
>
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8544*   Murphy  3.0   Clarify dependent actions
PRESENT. To be honest, even with the diff someone provided, I have no
clue what this actually winds up changing; however, that isn't really
Murphy's fault in this case. I may reconsider if some others are able
to figure out what's going on.

> 8545*   Aris, Murphy3.0   Uncanny Fixes
FOR
> 8546*~  G.  3.0   Talisn't
FOR
> 8547*~  Jason, G.   3.0   ER office restriction
FOR
> 8548&~  Jason   2.0   Stone defaults
FOR

-Aris

BUS: [Proposal] Uncanny Fixes

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal and pend it with a pendant.

-Aris
---
Title: Uncanny Fixes
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors: Murphy



[CAN requires a method, but there are a bunch of places it occurs
without a method or is otherwise used incorrectly. For instance,
all caps CAN is used in a bunch of places where its narrow, technical
meaning doesn't quite seem to apply.]


Amend Rule 2505, "Random Choices", by replacing:


  The choice CAN be made using any physical or computational process
  whose probability distribution among the possible outcomes is
  reasonably close to that required by the Rules, and for which the
  final choice is not trivially predictable by the selecting person
  in advance.

with:

  The choice can be made using any physical or computational process
  whose probability distribution among the possible outcomes is
  reasonably close to that required by the Rules, and for which the
  final choice is not trivially predictable by the selecting person
  in advance.


Amend Rule 2619, "Indictment", by replacing:

  When an investigator has issued an Indictment, the perpetrator CAN
  state a defence.

with:

  When an investigator has issued an Indictment, the perpetrator may
  state a defence.

Amend Rule 591, "Delivering Judgements", by replacing:

  A CFJ judged as INSUFFICIENT CAN and SHOULD be
  submitted again with sufficient arguments/evidence.

with:

  A CFJ judged as INSUFFICIENT SHOULD be submitted again with
  sufficient arguments/evidence.


Amend Rule 2634, "Buoyancy Control", by replacing:

  The Treasuror CAN and MAY exercise reasonable judgement in
  calculating the Total Buoyancy. The Total Buoyancy will be deemed
  set so long as the value chosen by the Treasuror is not obviously
  and grossly incorrect. The Treasuror CAN and MAY set the Total
  Buoyancy more than once a month, but SHOULD NOT do so unless there
  is reason to believe eir previous setting of the value failed.

with:

  The Treasuror may exercise reasonable judgement in
  calculating the Total Buoyancy. The Total Buoyancy will be deemed
  set so long as the value chosen by the Treasuror is not obviously
  and grossly incorrect. The Treasuror may set the Total
  Buoyancy more than once a month, but SHOULD NOT do so unless there
  is reason to believe eir previous setting of the value failed.


Amend Rule 2231, "Order of the Hero of Agora Nomic", by replacing:

  Grand Hero of Agora Nomic (GHAN) -- This title CAN be awarded to
  any person obviously and directly responsible for the existence of
  Agora and/or Nomic in general. As this title is the highest honour
  that Agora may bestow, a Bearer of this title OUGHT to be treated
  right good forever.

  Hero of Agora Nomic (HAN) -- This title CAN be awarded to any
  person for outstanding meritorious service to Agora above and
  beyond the call of duty.

with:

  Grand Hero of Agora Nomic (GHAN) -- This title may be awarded to
  any person obviously and directly responsible for the existence of
  Agora and/or Nomic in general. As this title is the highest honour
  that Agora may bestow, a Bearer of this title OUGHT to be treated
  right good forever.

  Hero of Agora Nomic (HAN) -- This title may be awarded to any
  person for outstanding meritorious service to Agora above and
  beyond the call of duty.


[Unless there's an objection, just going to yank this. No reason for
free tournaments to be treated differently than other kinds of tournament.]

Amend Rule 2566, "Free Tournaments", by removing:

  Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, only players CAN win the game
  via a free tournament.

Amend Rule 2614, "Eclipse Light", by replacing:

  Emergency Regulations CAN:

with:

  Emergency Regulations CAN, as part of their effect:


Amend Rule 107, "Initiating Agoran Decisions", by replacing:

  The vote collector for a decision with less than two options
  CAN and SHALL end the voting period by announcement, if it has not
  ended already, and provided that e resolves the decision in the
  same message.

with:

  The vote collector for a decision with less than two options
  CAN end the voting period by announcement, if it has not
  ended already, and provided that e resolves the decision in the
  same message.

Amend Rule 2573, "Impeachment", by replacing:

  A player CAN be expelled (impeached) from a specified elected
  office which e holds with 2 Agoran consent.

with:

  Any player CAN, with 2 Agoran consent, expel (impeach) the
  holder of a specified elected office.

Re: BUS: [proposal] ER Patch

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 3:24 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-business
 wrote:
>
>  I support each such intent.
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 11:40 PM Falsifian via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 02:18:20PM -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/28/2021 1:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > > > On 2/28/21 4:36 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > > >> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 9:37 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
> > > >> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I submit the following proposal and request its ceritifcation:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Title: ER office restriction
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Author: Jason
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Coauthors: G.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Adoption index: 3.0
> > > >>>
> > > >>> {
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Amend Rule 2614 ("Eclipse Light") by replacing "Appoint or remove
> > > >>> officeholders." with "Appoint or remove officeholders, other than
> > Prime
> > > >>> Minister or Speaker."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> }
> > > >>
> > > >> I intend, for N from 2 through 5, to certify (pend) this proposal
> > with N
> > > >> support.
> > > >>
> > > >> -Aris
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I support each such intent.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I also support each intent
> >
> > I also support each intent.
> >
> > --
> > Falsifian

With 4 support, I do so.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [proposal] talisman bugfix

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 3:23 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-business
 wrote:
>
>  I support each such intent.
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 11:48 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 2/28/2021 2:33 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > > On 2/28/21 5:32 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > >> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 2:27 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I create the following proposal, "Talisn't", AI-3, and request
> > certification.
> > >> For N from 2 through 5, I intend with N support to certify (pend) this
> > proposal.
> > >>
> > >> -Aris
> > >
> > >
> > > I support each such intent.
> > >
> >
> > I also support each such intent.
> >
> > -G.

With 3 support, I do so.


-Aris

Re: BUS: [proposal] Stone clarification

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 3:12 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
 wrote:
>
>
> On 2/28/2021 1:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 2/28/21 4:33 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> >> On 2/28/21 4:32 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 2:15 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
> >>> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >>>> I submit the following proposal and request its certification:
> >>>>
> >>>> Title: Stone defaults
> >>>>
> >>>> Author: Jason
> >>>>
> >>>> Coauthors:
> >>>>
> >>>> Adoption index: 2.0
> >>>>
> >>> I intend, for N from 2 through 5, to certify (pend) this proposal with N
> >>> support.
> >>>
> >>> -Aris
> >>
> >> I support.
> >>
> >
> > *sigh*
> >
> > If I haven't already, I support each such intent.
> >
>
> As do I.  -G.

With 2 support, I do so.


-Aris

BUS: Thanks All Around [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I give G., Jason, Falsifian, and CuddleBeam 5 coins each, as thanks
for supporting my last minute certifications.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [proposal] talisman bugfix

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 2:27 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
 wrote:
>
>
> I create the following proposal, "Talisn't", AI-3, and request certification.

For N from 2 through 5, I intend with N support to certify (pend) this proposal.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [proposal] ER Patch

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 9:37 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I submit the following proposal and request its ceritifcation:
>
> Title: ER office restriction
>
> Author: Jason
>
> Coauthors: G.
>
> Adoption index: 3.0
>
> {
>
> Amend Rule 2614 ("Eclipse Light") by replacing "Appoint or remove
> officeholders." with "Appoint or remove officeholders, other than Prime
> Minister or Speaker."
>
> }


I intend, for N from 2 through 5, to certify (pend) this proposal with N
support.

-Aris

>

Re: BUS: [proposal] Stone clarification

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 2:15 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> I submit the following proposal and request its certification:
>
> Title: Stone defaults
>
> Author: Jason
>
> Coauthors:
>
> Adoption index: 2.0
>

I intend, for N from 2 through 5, to certify (pend) this proposal with N
support.

-Aris