DIS: [attn. non-Contestants] Diplonomic Teammate Request

2020-07-08 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion

Diplonomic 2020 is starting soon, and Aris and Trigon (a non-contestant)
are planning to team up and play as one, and submit a proposal to allow it.

Is there anyone else who was interested in playing but didn't get in in
time? I would be happy to have a teammate.
--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood russian notary here :)


DIS: [Rulekeepor] Unofficial ACORN

2020-07-08 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
THE AGORA NOMIC CODE OF REGULATIONS 

These ACORNs are also online at http://agoranomic.org/ruleset/

Date of this ACORN: 9 Jul 2020


The Birthday Tournament
   This section has the regulations governing the Birthday Tournament.

Regulation BT0/0
Birthday Tournament 0

  P.S.S. CANNOT win this Tournament or become a Contestant. P.S.S.
  is the Gamemaster and Judge of this game.
  

Regulation BT2/1
Birthday Tournament 2

  The Gamemaster CAN cause any person to cease to be a Contestant by
  announcement. The Gamemaster CAN cause any consenting person to
  become a Contestant by announcement. The Gamemaster CAN, by
  announcement, amend the gamestate by substituting one Contestant
  into all instances of another Contestant.  The Gamemaster CAN
  amend the text of the Diplonomic 2020 rules arbitrarily in order
  to prevent breaches of Agoran custom or rules. The Gamemaster
  SHOULD NOT take any actions permitted by this section unless it is
  in the best interests of the game.
  

Regulation BT3/0
Birthday Tournament 3

  When all contestants except one have been eliminated from the
  contest, the victor is the last contestant remaining. The judge
  SHALL then, with 2 days notice, announce them as winners,
  whereupon they win the tournament and the tournament is concluded.
  If the judge believes that more than one person is deserving of
  the win, e CAN announce them all as winners. The judge SHOULD
  award a badge to all participants in the Tournament, broadly
  construed, after the conclusion of the Tournament unless it has
  not been completed in a satisfactory manner.
  

Regulation BT4/0
Birthday Tournament 4

  The judge is the final arbitor on matters of this tournament, and
  eir decisions can be overturned if and only if a CFJ finds eir
  decisions were made with arbitrary or capricious disregard for the
  terms of these regulations. The judge shall adjudicate these
  regulations in an equitable manner, with emphasis placed on the
  intent of the clauses and the fair treatment of all parties.
  

Regulation BT26/0
Birthday Tournament 26

  This year's Birthday Tournament shall be known as "Diplonomic
  2020" and governed by these regulations and the Diplonomic 2020
  rules.  
  

Regulation BT27/0
Birthday Tournament 27

  The Diplonomic 2020 rules SHALL be promulgated by the Gamemaster
  no later than July 10. All Contestants and the Gamemaster SHALL
  obide by them. The Gamemaster CAN amend the Diplonomic 2020 rules
  in accordance with those rules and these regulations.
  

Regulation BT28/1
Birthday Tournament 28

  Unless explicitly permitted by the Diplonomic 2020 rules, all
  Contestants SHALL NOT engage in any behaviors outside of
  Diplonomic 2020 as part of negotiations or other activities
  intended to influence the course of Diplonomic 2020.
  
  Unless explicitly prohibited by the Diplonomic 2020 rules,
  Contestants are encouraged to lie and cheat each other and SHOULD
  NOT be found in violation of "No Faking" for actions taken within
  Diplonomic 2020.  
  




DIS: Re: BUS: Temporary Lockbox [attn. Notary, Treasuror]

2020-07-08 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion

On 7/8/2020 2:33 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 7/7/20 5:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

I consent to, and create, a contract whose title is "Anti-Trigon
Lockbox" and with the following text:

{

Jason is the only party to this contract. If any other person becomes
party to this contract, e immediately ceases being party to this contract.

Jason, acting as emself, CAN by announcement transfer assets from this
contract.

}

I do not consent to other persons joining this contract.


I transfer the above contract every liquid asset in my possession except
for 20 coins.



If the above contract has no assets (which I think it doesn't), I
consent to its destruction and destroy it.


I'm super idiotic. I was searching the list for where you transferred
all its assets back to yourself before realizing it was in the message
right above.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary here :)


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
thanks guys 

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:57 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion  wrote:

> On 7/8/20 10:56 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> > What would be the fix? I don't entirely understand the mistake, sorry.
> It's
> > trivial for me to destroy the contract and remake it with a shorter
> timer.
> > I just made it 24h for the gravitas lol.
>
> It's simply a typo: it says "contact" where it should read "contract".
>
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:38 PM ATMunn via agora-business <
> > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 7/8/2020 1:59 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Cuddlebeam is the sole member to this contract. After 24 hours have
> >>> passed since this instance of this contract has been created, a copy of
> >>> this contact (a new instance of it) is made. Cuddlebeam consents and
> >> agrees
> >>> with themselves that these new contracts are made in this specific way.
> >>> 
> >>
> >> I'd like to point out that this says "a copy of this *contact*", not
> >> contract. I know our custom tends to be that typos don't matter if you
> >> know what the person meant, but this might be significant enough to
> >> break it.
> >>
> >> Sending this to a-b so it can be considered a gratuitous argument for
> >> the CFJ that will inevitably be called.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ATMunn
> >> friendly neighborhood notary here :)
> >>
>
>
> --
> 
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
> Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
>


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 7/8/20 10:56 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> What would be the fix? I don't entirely understand the mistake, sorry. It's
> trivial for me to destroy the contract and remake it with a shorter timer.
> I just made it 24h for the gravitas lol.

It's simply a typo: it says "contact" where it should read "contract".

> 
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:38 PM ATMunn via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/8/2020 1:59 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cuddlebeam is the sole member to this contract. After 24 hours have
>>> passed since this instance of this contract has been created, a copy of
>>> this contact (a new instance of it) is made. Cuddlebeam consents and
>> agrees
>>> with themselves that these new contracts are made in this specific way.
>>> 
>>
>> I'd like to point out that this says "a copy of this *contact*", not
>> contract. I know our custom tends to be that typos don't matter if you
>> know what the person meant, but this might be significant enough to
>> break it.
>>
>> Sending this to a-b so it can be considered a gratuitous argument for
>> the CFJ that will inevitably be called.
>>
>> --
>> ATMunn
>> friendly neighborhood notary here :)
>>


-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
What would be the fix? I don't entirely understand the mistake, sorry. It's
trivial for me to destroy the contract and remake it with a shorter timer.
I just made it 24h for the gravitas lol.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:38 PM ATMunn via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 7/8/2020 1:59 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
> > 
> > Cuddlebeam is the sole member to this contract. After 24 hours have
> > passed since this instance of this contract has been created, a copy of
> > this contact (a new instance of it) is made. Cuddlebeam consents and
> agrees
> > with themselves that these new contracts are made in this specific way.
> > 
>
> I'd like to point out that this says "a copy of this *contact*", not
> contract. I know our custom tends to be that typos don't matter if you
> know what the person meant, but this might be significant enough to
> break it.
>
> Sending this to a-b so it can be considered a gratuitous argument for
> the CFJ that will inevitably be called.
>
> --
> ATMunn
> friendly neighborhood notary here :)
>


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 7/8/2020 7:33 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 7/8/2020 2:26 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
>> As fun as this is, contracts cannot perform actions automatically. I 
>> guess you could amend it so that you CAN do so, but at that point, 
>> there's no real reason for the contracts to fork like this since you can 
>> just create a large number of dummy contracts and that would be probably 
>> just as effective at annoying the heck out of the Notary.

But players can create contracts with consent, and we've allowed contract
texts to "automatically determine consent".  That's the only reason things
like "a new party can join by announcement" in a contract's text works.

So if this doesn't work, then a contract text saying "people can join by
announcement" or anything similar doesn't work, either.

-G.



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion

On 7/8/2020 2:26 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
As fun as this is, contracts cannot perform actions automatically. I 
guess you could amend it so that you CAN do so, but at that point, 
there's no real reason for the contracts to fork like this since you can 
just create a large number of dummy contracts and that would be probably 
just as effective at annoying the heck out of the Notary.


:)

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary here :)


DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-07-08 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
no u

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:48 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 7/8/20 2:25 AM, omd via agora-business wrote:
> > at 6:27 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official 
>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> 8464  You can certify, but you can't win ever!  REJECTED
> > CoE: Proposal 8464 was not validly distributed, because the
> distribution
> > message was internally inconsistent as to who authored it (and its
> validity
> > did not self-ratify because I CoEd it along with my vote).
>
>
> Denied.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
>


DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-07-08 Thread omd via agora-discussion
at 11:43 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business  
 wrote:



On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:00 PM omd via agora-business
 wrote:


CoE: The distribution message is inconsistent about who authored this
proposal.  If it was validly distributed, AGAINST.


Denied. The message said: "Where the information shown below differs
from the information shown above, the information shown above shall
control." The notice as a whole was consistent and correct.


Oh, fair enough.  Didn’t see that.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
how would they become publicly unavailable though?

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:26 AM N. S. via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> well,,, it might not work. there could be a problem with the reproduction
> being "a change that would make the contract's text  publicly unavailable"
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 5:20 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > I don't intend to overload our Notary with work. Once I have the
> > Contracolis reproduce once or twice my intention is to CfJ to confirm
> that
> > they have reproduced and then destroy them all.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:50 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2020-07-08 00:39, N. S. via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > > yep, i'm also quite sure that this works, a person can consent
> entirely
> > > by
> > > > contract and consenting is sufficient to create a contract. this
> could
> > be
> > > > called, quite circular.
> > >
> > > Well, dang. Sorry, ATMunn. I tried.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Trigon
> > >
> > > I LOVE SPAGHETTI
> > > transfer Jason one coin
> > > nch was here
> > > I hereby
> > > don't... trust... the dragon...
> > > don't... trust... the dragon...
> > > Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> From R. Lee
>


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
well,,, it might not work. there could be a problem with the reproduction
being "a change that would make the contract's text  publicly unavailable"

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 5:20 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I don't intend to overload our Notary with work. Once I have the
> Contracolis reproduce once or twice my intention is to CfJ to confirm that
> they have reproduced and then destroy them all.
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:50 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2020-07-08 00:39, N. S. via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > yep, i'm also quite sure that this works, a person can consent entirely
> > by
> > > contract and consenting is sufficient to create a contract. this could
> be
> > > called, quite circular.
> >
> > Well, dang. Sorry, ATMunn. I tried.
> >
> > --
> > Trigon
> >
> > I LOVE SPAGHETTI
> > transfer Jason one coin
> > nch was here
> > I hereby
> > don't... trust... the dragon...
> > don't... trust... the dragon...
> > Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
> >
>


-- 
>From R. Lee


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
I don't intend to overload our Notary with work. Once I have the
Contracolis reproduce once or twice my intention is to CfJ to confirm that
they have reproduced and then destroy them all.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:50 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 2020-07-08 00:39, N. S. via agora-discussion wrote:
> > yep, i'm also quite sure that this works, a person can consent entirely
> by
> > contract and consenting is sufficient to create a contract. this could be
> > called, quite circular.
>
> Well, dang. Sorry, ATMunn. I tried.
>
> --
> Trigon
>
> I LOVE SPAGHETTI
> transfer Jason one coin
> nch was here
> I hereby
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
>


DIS: Re: BUS: Doubloon Intent

2020-07-08 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
Yarr, I support as well.

Let's haul in this here buxom loot, mateys!

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:36 AM omd via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> at 4:52 PM, N. S. via agora-business 
> wrote:
>
> > I intent to transfer 125 coins (the current amount it has) from the L
> > department to the Plundership, w/o objection
>
> I support.
>


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Public Lockers

2020-07-08 Thread omd via agora-discussion
at 11:30 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion  
 wrote:



Damn it. I broke that one way, and then my fix broke it another way.
You are referring, I presume, to the fact that one doesn't need to
consent to create a promise?


Yeah.


At least I can't think of a situation where that's exploitable where
you wouldn't be able to do something under R2519(2) anyway.


Hmm... R2519(2) wouldn’t apply in the case of other sources of  
act-on-behalf besides contracts, but I suppose none of them are exploitable:
- Zombies: you already patched the zombies rule to forbid making a zombie  
create a promise.
- The Administrative State: creating a promise probably doesn’t count as an  
officer “exercising eir official powers”.  (But I’d love to see a case  
where it did.)
- Promises themselves: not applicable since being able to manufacture  
consent through promises is by design.



Also, I
think there's a pretty fair argument that R869's anti-mousetrap clause
requires consent anyway, though again, R2519(2) likely provides it for
the case of contract exploits.


Heh, I forgot that Rule 869’s anti-mousetrap clause was still there.  Rule  
2519’s definition of consent is at power 3, but I wonder if there could be  
some difference between “consent” and Rule 869’s “willful consent”.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion

On 2020-07-08 00:39, N. S. via agora-discussion wrote:

yep, i'm also quite sure that this works, a person can consent entirely by
contract and consenting is sufficient to create a contract. this could be
called, quite circular.


Well, dang. Sorry, ATMunn. I tried.

--
Trigon

I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
yep, i'm also quite sure that this works, a person can consent entirely by
contract and consenting is sufficient to create a contract. this could be
called, quite circular.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:30 PM omd via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> at 11:26 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
>  wrote:
>
> > On 2020-07-07 23:59, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
> >> I have no idea if this works, but it might be useful for certain
> >> applications. Experimentation!!!
> >> I create the following contract called "Contracoli":
> >> 
> >> Cuddlebeam is the sole member to this contract. After 24 hours have
> >> passed since this instance of this contract has been created, a copy of
> >> this contact (a new instance of it) is made. Cuddlebeam consents and
> >> agrees
> >> with themselves that these new contracts are made in this specific way.
> >> 
> >> I hereby publicly consent to and agree with myself to have Contracoli
> >> contracts be generated in the way described above.
> >
> > As fun as this is, contracts cannot perform actions automatically. I
> > guess you could amend it so that you CAN do so, but at that point,
> > there's no real reason for the contracts to fork like this since you
> can
> > just create a large number of dummy contracts and that would be
> probably
> > just as effective at annoying the heck out of the Notary.
>
> They can’t perform actions in general automatically.  But by Rule 2519
> they
> can give consent, and CFJs 3849-50 held that consent is actually the
> mechanism for contract changes.  So I think this works.
>


-- 
>From R. Lee


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Public Lockers

2020-07-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 11:20 PM omd via agora-discussion
 wrote:
>
> at 11:06 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
>  wrote:
>
> > I think that having single-party contracts feels / is safer. You can
> > arbitrarily amend it without needing to rely on anyone else and nobody else
> > can join it which adds another layer of speculative protection.
>
> I don’t think single-party contracts are secure, though.  Regardless of
> what the text says about amendment, by R1742 it can always be done “with
> the consent of all existing parties”.  Consent can’t be given by someone
> acting on behalf of you, since R2519(1) says “acting as emself”… but it
> doesn’t have to be.  If the concern is that you’d get caught in a mousetrap
> contract that would allow others to act on behalf of you, that contract can
> also make you consent by R2519(2).
>
> There's also a certain loophole in R2519 that makes the “acting as emself”
> guard useless...

Damn it. I broke that one way, and then my fix broke it another way.
You are referring, I presume, to the fact that one doesn't need to
consent to create a promise?

At least I can't think of a situation where that's exploitable where
you wouldn't be able to do something under R2519(2) anyway. Also, I
think there's a pretty fair argument that R869's anti-mousetrap clause
requires consent anyway, though again, R2519(2) likely provides it for
the case of contract exploits.


-Aris


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread omd via agora-discussion
at 11:26 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion  
 wrote:



On 2020-07-07 23:59, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:

I have no idea if this works, but it might be useful for certain
applications. Experimentation!!!
I create the following contract called "Contracoli":

Cuddlebeam is the sole member to this contract. After 24 hours have
passed since this instance of this contract has been created, a copy of
this contact (a new instance of it) is made. Cuddlebeam consents and  
agrees

with themselves that these new contracts are made in this specific way.

I hereby publicly consent to and agree with myself to have Contracoli
contracts be generated in the way described above.


As fun as this is, contracts cannot perform actions automatically. I  
guess you could amend it so that you CAN do so, but at that point,  
there's no real reason for the contracts to fork like this since you can  
just create a large number of dummy contracts and that would be probably  
just as effective at annoying the heck out of the Notary.


They can’t perform actions in general automatically.  But by Rule 2519 they  
can give consent, and CFJs 3849-50 held that consent is actually the  
mechanism for contract changes.  So I think this works.


DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-08 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion

On 2020-07-07 23:59, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:

I have no idea if this works, but it might be useful for certain
applications. Experimentation!!!

I create the following contract called "Contracoli":


Cuddlebeam is the sole member to this contract. After 24 hours have
passed since this instance of this contract has been created, a copy of
this contact (a new instance of it) is made. Cuddlebeam consents and agrees
with themselves that these new contracts are made in this specific way.


I hereby publicly consent to and agree with myself to have Contracoli
contracts be generated in the way described above.


As fun as this is, contracts cannot perform actions automatically. I 
guess you could amend it so that you CAN do so, but at that point, 
there's no real reason for the contracts to fork like this since you can 
just create a large number of dummy contracts and that would be probably 
just as effective at annoying the heck out of the Notary.


--
Trigon

I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Public Lockers

2020-07-08 Thread omd via agora-discussion
at 11:06 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion  
 wrote:



I think that having single-party contracts feels / is safer. You can
arbitrarily amend it without needing to rely on anyone else and nobody else
can join it which adds another layer of speculative protection.


I don’t think single-party contracts are secure, though.  Regardless of  
what the text says about amendment, by R1742 it can always be done “with  
the consent of all existing parties”.  Consent can’t be given by someone  
acting on behalf of you, since R2519(1) says “acting as emself”… but it  
doesn’t have to be.  If the concern is that you’d get caught in a mousetrap  
contract that would allow others to act on behalf of you, that contract can  
also make you consent by R2519(2).


There's also a certain loophole in R2519 that makes the “acting as emself”  
guard useless...


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: just a normal action

2020-07-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 11:15 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> > ATEOISIDTIDWHPAFALT
>
> lmfao what is this


See this [1].

[1] http://zenith.homelinux.net/agora_acronyms.php

-Aris


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: just a normal action

2020-07-08 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
it's a nonsense acronym meant to refer to "ISIDTID" (i said i did therefore
i did), which is the agoran fallacy that you can do anything as long as you
say so.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> > ATEOISIDTIDWHPAFALT
>
> lmfao what is this
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:12 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:00 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 7/7/20 7:55 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> > > > I cease to exist.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This is probably a regulated action because it would change information
> > > for which the Registrar is the recordkeepor, and thus you would need a
> > > method provided by a statute to cease to exist
> >
> >
> > Even if it weren't, this is blatantly ATEOISIDTIDWHPAFALT.
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


-- 
>From R. Lee


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: just a normal action

2020-07-08 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
> ATEOISIDTIDWHPAFALT

lmfao what is this

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:12 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:00 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On 7/7/20 7:55 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> > > I cease to exist.
> > >
> >
> > This is probably a regulated action because it would change information
> > for which the Registrar is the recordkeepor, and thus you would need a
> > method provided by a statute to cease to exist
>
>
> Even if it weren't, this is blatantly ATEOISIDTIDWHPAFALT.
>
> -Aris
>
> >
> >
>


DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Public Lockers

2020-07-08 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
I think that having single-party contracts feels / is safer. You can
arbitrarily amend it without needing to rely on anyone else and nobody else
can join it which adds another layer of speculative protection.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:03 AM ATMunn via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I've noticed a few people making "locker" contracts for themselves to
> hold their assets. I thought it might be nice to have one contract that
> everyone can use instead of everybody making their own contracts. Let me
> know if there's any issues with the wording here.
>
> I create, consent to, and become a party to the following contract,
> entitled "The Bank":
>
> {
>
> Any person CAN become a party, or cease to be a party, to this contract
> by announcement.
>
> When a person transfers any number of assets to this contract, those
> assets are considered to be in eir account. A party to this contract CAN
> transfer any number of assets from eir account to emself. Attempts to
> transfer more assets to emself than are in eir account are INEFFECTIVE.
>
> The person who has been party to this contract the longest is known as
> the Bankor. The Bankor SHOULD publish the contents of all accounts in a
> report weekly.
>
> Any party to this contract CAN propose an amendment to this contract by
> announcement. Once all parties have publicly consented to that
> amendment, then the person who proposed the amendment CAN cause this
> contract's text to be modified in the way specified originally by
> announcement.
>
> This contract CANNOT be destroyed if any person has assets in eir
> account.
>
> }
>
> --
> ATMunn
> friendly neighborhood notary here :)
>