Re: DIS: ATTN omd / Distributor (was Re: jobs)
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 5:48 PM James Cook wrote: > Our H. Distributor tried in June to enable from-address-rewriting for > messages with this problem, but I'm not sure it worked. See for > example my 2019-07-01 message to the discussion list [0]. > > omd, do you have any insight on what is going on? > > [0] > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2019-July/054651.html Well, protonmail.com has p=quarantine, and Mailman is set to munge >From for both p=quarantine and p=reject, so it should be rewriting From... yet it isn't. Hmm. *sigh* I see. From munging is performed by the SpamDetect pass, and I had manually disabled that pass because – according to a comment I left at the time – it caused Python errors related to Unicode handling. So it never actually took effect. I just re-enabled the pass, and also upgraded Mailman to the tip of the 2.1 branch just in case it fixes the Unicode issue. If it doesn't, the list might start dropping messages fitting whatever pattern was triggering the issue in the past, in which case I'll have to actually find the bug and fix it. For now, though... I just sent a test message from a ProtonMail account, and From rewriting now seems to be working.
Re: DIS: ATTN omd / Distributor (was Re: jobs)
Thanks for looking into it! Original Message On Oct 27, 2019, 7:15 PM, omd wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 5:48 PM James Cook wrote: >> Our H. Distributor tried in June to enable from-address-rewriting for >> messages with this problem, but I'm not sure it worked. See for >> example my 2019-07-01 message to the discussion list [0]. >> >> omd, do you have any insight on what is going on? >> >> [0] >> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2019-July/054651.html > > Well, protonmail.com has p=quarantine, and Mailman is set to munge > From for both p=quarantine and p=reject, so it should be rewriting > From... yet it isn't. Hmm. > > *sigh* I see. From munging is performed by the SpamDetect pass, and I > had manually disabled that pass because – according to a comment I > left at the time – it caused Python errors related to Unicode > handling. So it never actually took effect. > > I just re-enabled the pass, and also upgraded Mailman to the tip of > the 2.1 branch just in case it fixes the Unicode issue. If it > doesn't, the list might start dropping messages fitting whatever > pattern was triggering the issue in the past, in which case I'll have > to actually find the bug and fix it. > > For now, though... I just sent a test message from a ProtonMail > account, and From rewriting now seems to be working.
DIS: ATTN omd / Distributor (was Re: jobs)
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 16:55, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 16:23 +, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > > It's not just you who isn't receiving it. I'm not receiving Nch's > > mail either. > > > > Nch, could you send an email directly to my mailserver at > > ? That might help to debug whatever issues > > are going wrong with the mail verification. > > Based on the verification information I saw from this, it's going to be > pretty difficult for Nch's emails to appear genuine if going through > the mailing list; there are multiple verification steps that seem > almost impossible to comply with after the list has altered the > message. > > I wonder whether it might be a sensible idea to get the mailing list to > rewrite From: addresses, thus making the entire From-address > verification step moot? (Perhaps only in the case of known problematic > mail providers; does our software have an option for that?) Our H. Distributor tried in June to enable from-address-rewriting for messages with this problem, but I'm not sure it worked. See for example my 2019-07-01 message to the discussion list [0]. omd, do you have any insight on what is going on? [0] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2019-July/054651.html -- - Falsifian
