Re: Kernel updating to 2.6.32-3 ABI

2010-02-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 23 February 2010, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 I has been informated that tomorrow (02/24/2010) a new kernel with ABI 3
 will be uploaded. In front of that, I've asked to ftp-masters to ignore
 the package I uploaded today.

Why? It makes no difference at all for D-I if the ABI is different.
Let's just go ahead with the current kernel and update to 3 (or 4 or 
whatever) later.

It will take some time for ABI 3 to be built everywhere anyway. And it may 
give us a chance to fix issues that are discovered with an upload now.

Let's move forward and not delay unnecessarily. Why throw away a perfectly 
good upload?


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Bug#498731: debootstrap: Move setup_devices to second_stage (or hurd-i386 fails)

2010-02-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 19 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 If you could test the patch (and no one else objects) I'll make sure it
 gets included in the next upload.

With D-I alpha1 released, a new version of debootstrap has been uploaded 
(not including a patch for this BR). But it does mean my proposed patch 
can be tested against the current package in unstable.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#571035: [squeeze alpha1] installationsreport: grub2: machine doesn't boot

2010-02-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 24 February 2010, Holger Wansing wrote:
 This image is an image only containing a vmlinuz kernel, no initrd

They never do... The initrd always gets generated when a kernel package is 
installed.

 I installed that, and booted:
 system starts and gets a kernel panic, because root file system is
 unable to be found.

It's not exactly a kernel panic, but I know what you mean.

 That means at least, that grub2 is not the problem, what was my very
 first thought.

Well, not being able to find the root FS may well be because GRUB is not 
configured correctly. When you are dropped into the debug shell, check the 
contents of /dev and /dev/disk/by-uuid to see if your hard disk and root 
partition are present.

But the fact that 2.6.30 does boot that far while 2.6.32 hangs earlier 
probably means that there is a kernel problem with .32.



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Bug#571044: [Debian-hebrew-package] Bug#571044: Seeing this with debconf prompts

2010-02-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 23 February 2010, أحمد المحمودي wrote:
 That's debconf right ?

 Both debconf  D-I use newt, am I right about this ?

Yes, that's correct. You should probably also be able to reproduce the 
issue using whiptail.

Note that D-I uses cdebconf (C implementation) and not debconf (perl 
implementation). That could possibly make a difference, although I doubt 
it.



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Re: mirror-sync and build_all.sh (debian-cd)

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, mancyb...@gmail.com wrote:
 ./easy-build.sh NETINST

 cp: cannot stat
 
`/media/mike2/srv/mirror/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/cdrom/initrd.gz':
 
No such file or directory FAILED: error 1
 Failed to start disc 1, error 256

You don't have the Debian Installer images included on your mirror. You can 
either add them (you'll need debmirror from testing for that), or you can 
configure easy-build.sh to load the D-I images from an external mirror.

For the last, see the comments in the easy-build.sh script.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: mirror-sync and build_all.sh (debian-cd)

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, mancyb...@gmail.com wrote:
 note the '--section=main,main/debian-installer'

That includes the *udebs* for the installer, but not the *images*.
Just look at the file name from the error message and check your mirror; 
you'll see that it's imply not there.

To also mirror the images, you need the --di-dist and/or --di-arch options.


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Re: mirror-sync and build_all.sh (debian-cd)

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Monday 22 February 2010, mancyb...@gmail.com wrote:
  note the '--section=main,main/debian-installer'

 That includes the *udebs* for the installer, but not the *images*.
 Just look at the file name from the error message and check your mirror;
 you'll see that it's imply not there.
   ^--- simply

 To also mirror the images, you need the --di-dist and/or --di-arch
 options.


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Accepted auto-install 1.7 (source all)

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
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Format: 1.8
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 01:14:01 +0100
Source: auto-install
Binary: ai-localechooser ai-kbd-chooser ai-console-setup-udeb auto-install 
auto-install-nonet
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 ai-console-setup-udeb - Delayed configuration of keyboard for auto-install 
(udeb)
 ai-kbd-chooser - Delayed configuration of keyboard for auto-install (udeb)
 ai-localechooser - Delayed configuration of locale for auto-install (udeb)
 auto-install - Support for automatic installs (udeb)
 auto-install-nonet - Support for automatic installs (udeb)
Closes: 568292
Changes: 
 auto-install (1.7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Upgrade to debhelper v7.
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Remove no longer needed Lintian override for missing Standards-Version
 field.
   * auto-install: depend on configured-network instead of netcfg.
   * Add separate udeb 'auto-install-nonet' for inclusion in images that should
 not include netcfg. Closes: #568292.
   * Split ai-choosers udeb into a separate udeb for each chooser. The current
 assumption that an image will always include both localechooser and
 kbd-chooser is not valid.
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  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install-nonet_1.7_all.udeb
auto-install_1.7.dsc
  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install_1.7.dsc
auto-install_1.7.tar.gz
  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install_1.7.tar.gz
auto-install_1.7_all.udeb
  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install_1.7_all.udeb


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Accepted auto-install 1.8 (source all)

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:34:08 +0100
Source: auto-install
Binary: ai-localechooser ai-kbd-chooser ai-console-setup-udeb auto-install 
auto-install-nonet
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.8
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 ai-console-setup-udeb - Delayed configuration of keyboard for auto-install 
(udeb)
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 ai-localechooser - Delayed configuration of locale for auto-install (udeb)
 auto-install - Support for automatic installs (udeb)
 auto-install-nonet - Support for automatic installs (udeb)
Changes: 
 auto-install (1.8) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Tune menu item numbers for ai-choosers to ensure language/locale selection
 gets run before keyboard selection.
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ai-localechooser_1.8_all.udeb
  to main/a/auto-install/ai-localechooser_1.8_all.udeb
auto-install-nonet_1.8_all.udeb
  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install-nonet_1.8_all.udeb
auto-install_1.8.dsc
  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install_1.8.dsc
auto-install_1.8.tar.gz
  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install_1.8.tar.gz
auto-install_1.8_all.udeb
  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install_1.8_all.udeb


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Accepted auto-install 1.9 (source all)

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:42:06 +0100
Source: auto-install
Binary: ai-localechooser ai-kbd-chooser ai-console-setup-udeb auto-install 
auto-install-nonet
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.9
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 ai-console-setup-udeb - Delayed configuration of keyboard for auto-install 
(udeb)
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 ai-localechooser - Delayed configuration of locale for auto-install (udeb)
 auto-install - Support for automatic installs (udeb)
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Changes: 
 auto-install (1.9) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Keep language/locale selection before clock-setup.
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  to main/a/auto-install/ai-localechooser_1.9_all.udeb
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  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install-nonet_1.9_all.udeb
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  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install_1.9.dsc
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  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install_1.9.tar.gz
auto-install_1.9_all.udeb
  to main/a/auto-install/auto-install_1.9_all.udeb


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Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 06:47:44AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  I guess for the icon issue you mean #561902? I don't see any problem
  with the search engine dropdown list without libgnomeui-0 installed
  under KDE.

 No, I mean a different issue. #561902 only requires gtk. But I can still
 be wrong, there is maybe no issue. The code linked from #555162 looks
 like it is used for moz-icon:// urls, which, in turn, are heavily used
 in the default theme.

If I look at the code the BR refers to, then that looks to be protected by 
tests to see if it is running in a Gnome environment: if it's there it's 
used, if not, no problem.

I see no reason for a dependency from that, but I may be wrong.

  Can't tell about external handlers without knowing what exactly to
  try.

 Edit  Preferences  Applications, opening a downloaded file, opening
 a downloaded file containing folder, etc.

I tested it for mailto:
I was asked what application to use. kmail was not listed, so I added it 
and told it to remember that. After that iceweasel perfectly opened 
kmail's composer for me every time.

I also tried downloading a .deb, which did not yet have a handler. In the 
open/save file dialog I told it to open .deb files with kpackage and to 
remember that setting. Works fine.
If I don't tell it to remember the setting, it will show the open with/save 
as dialog again.

I've checked against iceweasel 3.06 and that works identically.



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Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 Could you send the output for reportbug --template xulrunner-1.9.1 on
 your machine ?

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-trunk-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages xulrunner-1.9.1 depends on:
ii  libasound2  1.0.22-2 shared library for ALSA applicatio
ii  libatk1.0-0 1.28.0-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libbz2-1.0  1.0.5-4  high-quality block-sorting file co
ii  libc6   2.10.2-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libcairo2   1.8.8-2  The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libdbus-1-3 1.2.20-2 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libfontconfig1  2.8.0-2  generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype62.3.11-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgcc1 1:4.4.3-2GCC support library
ii  libglib2.0-02.22.4-1 The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgtk2.0-0 2.18.7-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libhunspell-1.2-0   1.2.8-6  spell checker and morphological an
ii  libjpeg62   6b-16.1  The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libmozjs2d  1.9.1.8-3The Mozilla SpiderMonkey JavaScrip
ii  libnspr4-0d 4.8.3-1  NetScape Portable Runtime Library
ii  libnss3-1d  3.12.5-2 Network Security Service libraries
ii  libpango1.0-0   1.26.2-1 Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpng12-0  1.2.42-2 PNG library - runtime
ii  libreadline66.1-1GNU readline and history libraries
ii  libsqlite3-03.6.22-1 SQLite 3 shared library
ii  libstartup-notification 0.10-1   library for program launch feedbac
ii  libstdc++6  4.4.3-2  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-62:1.3.3-1X11 client-side library
ii  libxrender1 1:0.9.5-1X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  libxt6  1:1.0.7-1X11 toolkit intrinsics library
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages xulrunner-1.9.1 recommends:
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2  0.84-1 simple interprocess messaging syst
pn  libgconf2-4   none (no description available)
pn  libgnome2-0   none (no description available)
pn  libgnomeui-0  none (no description available)
pn  libgnomevfs2-0none (no description available)

xulrunner-1.9.1 suggests no packages.

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Bug#570949: Overrides: please change priority for partman-reiserfs to optional

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
Package: ftp.debian.org
Tags: d-i

We are making support for reiserfs in Debian Installer optional (i.e. only 
available if explicitly selected) as the file system is no longer as 
relevant as a few years ago and is only marginally maintained upstream.

The priority change in $subject is needed for that.

Thanks,
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Bug#567866: reiserfsprogs: Minor improvements for the udebs

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
Now that the alpha1 release of D-I has been released I've started the 
process of making reiserfs support optional.

There's no great rush, but an upload of reiserfsprogs with these changes 
would be appreciated as it will help testing.

TIA,
FJP



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Bug#569589: Request for additional kernel modules in D-I for s390

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
tag 569589 pending
thanks

On Friday 12 February 2010, Stephen Powell wrote:
 dasd_fba_mod is essential to support FBA DASD.

This module is already included in dasd-modules.

 dasd_diag_mod is necessary when using the DIAG driver, which can be used
 with either CKD DASD or FBA DASD.

I've added this in a new udeb dasd-extra-modules. This udeb will *NOT* be 
loaded by default, but can be selected as an optional component in expert 
mode or when installing with priority=medium.
Possibly it could be included by default, but have chosen this solution as 
I have no way to check that and don't want to risk affecting regular 
installs by maybe making devices visible that are not actually supported.

I've added the vmcp module to core-modules as you suggested.

Cheers,
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Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 M... looks like I was too conservative... Let's try to demote these
 to suggests once the current version hits testing.

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Bug#570905: iceweasel is no longer a desktop environment independent browser

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 In that case I personally don't think we can maintain iceweasel's status
 as desktop independent browser for new installations and we'll have to
 consider removing it from the common desktop task in tasksel.
 Given that the default browsers for the various desktop environments
 have become much more mature since Sarge, I don't actually see that as a
 big problem. It may even help relieve some of the pressure for CD1.
 Possibly we should keep it as the default browser for XFCE and/or LXDE.

Latest is that the Gnome library Recommends should be demoted to Suggests 
with the next upload. Not sure if that will be done for all four of them 
or only for some.

However, I think it's still worth considering removing iceweasel from the 
general desktop task and including it only for desktop environments that 
don't have a full-featured, mature web browser of their own.



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Bug#571044: fribidi: new version causes regressions in Debian Installer

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
Package: fribidi
Version: 0.19.2-1
Severity: serious
Tags: d-i

We're seeing regressions in the newt frontend with the new version of the 
fribidi udeb, as these screenshots show:
http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/daily-borked2.png
http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/daily-borked3.png

Note the line with the window title and the Go Back button.

If I build a D-I image using the fribidi version from testing, the problems 
disappear.



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Bug#571045: syslinux: Incorrect display of boot screen image in D-I

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
Package: syslinux
Version: 2:3.85+dfsg-1
Severity: important

The regression can be seen in this screenshot:
http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/daily-borked1.png

The image is supposed to fill the screen and not be tiled.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.31.1 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages syslinux depends on:
ii  dosfstools 3.0.9-1   utilities for making and checking 
ii  libc6  2.10.2-6  Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  mtools 4.0.12-1  Tools for manipulating MSDOS files
ii  syslinux-common2:3.85+dfsg-1 Kernel loader which uses a FAT, ex

syslinux recommends no packages.

syslinux suggests no packages.

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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 06:47:44AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  I guess for the icon issue you mean #561902? I don't see any problem
  with the search engine dropdown list without libgnomeui-0 installed
  under KDE.

 No, I mean a different issue. #561902 only requires gtk. But I can still
 be wrong, there is maybe no issue. The code linked from #555162 looks
 like it is used for moz-icon:// urls, which, in turn, are heavily used
 in the default theme.

If I look at the code the BR refers to, then that looks to be protected by 
tests to see if it is running in a Gnome environment: if it's there it's 
used, if not, no problem.

I see no reason for a dependency from that, but I may be wrong.

  Can't tell about external handlers without knowing what exactly to
  try.

 Edit  Preferences  Applications, opening a downloaded file, opening
 a downloaded file containing folder, etc.

I tested it for mailto:
I was asked what application to use. kmail was not listed, so I added it 
and told it to remember that. After that iceweasel perfectly opened 
kmail's composer for me every time.

I also tried downloading a .deb, which did not yet have a handler. In the 
open/save file dialog I told it to open .deb files with kpackage and to 
remember that setting. Works fine.
If I don't tell it to remember the setting, it will show the open with/save 
as dialog again.

I've checked against iceweasel 3.06 and that works identically.


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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 Could you send the output for reportbug --template xulrunner-1.9.1 on
 your machine ?

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-trunk-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages xulrunner-1.9.1 depends on:
ii  libasound2  1.0.22-2 shared library for ALSA applicatio
ii  libatk1.0-0 1.28.0-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libbz2-1.0  1.0.5-4  high-quality block-sorting file co
ii  libc6   2.10.2-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libcairo2   1.8.8-2  The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libdbus-1-3 1.2.20-2 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libfontconfig1  2.8.0-2  generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype62.3.11-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgcc1 1:4.4.3-2GCC support library
ii  libglib2.0-02.22.4-1 The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgtk2.0-0 2.18.7-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libhunspell-1.2-0   1.2.8-6  spell checker and morphological an
ii  libjpeg62   6b-16.1  The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libmozjs2d  1.9.1.8-3The Mozilla SpiderMonkey JavaScrip
ii  libnspr4-0d 4.8.3-1  NetScape Portable Runtime Library
ii  libnss3-1d  3.12.5-2 Network Security Service libraries
ii  libpango1.0-0   1.26.2-1 Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpng12-0  1.2.42-2 PNG library - runtime
ii  libreadline66.1-1GNU readline and history libraries
ii  libsqlite3-03.6.22-1 SQLite 3 shared library
ii  libstartup-notification 0.10-1   library for program launch feedbac
ii  libstdc++6  4.4.3-2  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-62:1.3.3-1X11 client-side library
ii  libxrender1 1:0.9.5-1X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  libxt6  1:1.0.7-1X11 toolkit intrinsics library
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages xulrunner-1.9.1 recommends:
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2  0.84-1 simple interprocess messaging syst
pn  libgconf2-4   none (no description available)
pn  libgnome2-0   none (no description available)
pn  libgnomeui-0  none (no description available)
pn  libgnomevfs2-0none (no description available)

xulrunner-1.9.1 suggests no packages.

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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 M... looks like I was too conservative... Let's try to demote these
 to suggests once the current version hits testing.

Cool. Thanks Mike.


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Re: [RFH] Next Debian Installer release

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 I plan to do a test with updated kernel packages tomorrow and depending
 how it looks upload it. 

I've just fixed the last few dependency and build problems, so all that's 
needed is the check for new modules since 2.6.30.


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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 06:47:44AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  I guess for the icon issue you mean #561902? I don't see any problem
  with the search engine dropdown list without libgnomeui-0 installed
  under KDE.

 No, I mean a different issue. #561902 only requires gtk. But I can still
 be wrong, there is maybe no issue. The code linked from #555162 looks
 like it is used for moz-icon:// urls, which, in turn, are heavily used
 in the default theme.

If I look at the code the BR refers to, then that looks to be protected by 
tests to see if it is running in a Gnome environment: if it's there it's 
used, if not, no problem.

I see no reason for a dependency from that, but I may be wrong.

  Can't tell about external handlers without knowing what exactly to
  try.

 Edit  Preferences  Applications, opening a downloaded file, opening
 a downloaded file containing folder, etc.

I tested it for mailto:
I was asked what application to use. kmail was not listed, so I added it 
and told it to remember that. After that iceweasel perfectly opened 
kmail's composer for me every time.

I also tried downloading a .deb, which did not yet have a handler. In the 
open/save file dialog I told it to open .deb files with kpackage and to 
remember that setting. Works fine.
If I don't tell it to remember the setting, it will show the open with/save 
as dialog again.

I've checked against iceweasel 3.06 and that works identically.


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massbuild: support for building kfreebsd kernel udebs added

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
It looks to work correctly (even on a linux host), but the resulting udebs 
have not been checked in detail.

Running depmod is simply skipped; AFAICT it's not relevant for kfreebsd 
kernels. If some other form of module dependency calculation is used, then 
it probably needs more work.

To build kfreebsd udebs for all (both) kfreebsd arches use:
$ ./massbuild kbuild --bsd

Or for a specific architecture (the kfreebsd- prefix is optional):
$ ./massbuild kbuild --bsd amd64
$ ./massbuild kbuild --bsd kfreebsd-i386

Other operations (kclean/krelease) and options should all work analogous to 
massbuilding for linux.

Cheers,
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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 Could you send the output for reportbug --template xulrunner-1.9.1 on
 your machine ?

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-trunk-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages xulrunner-1.9.1 depends on:
ii  libasound2  1.0.22-2 shared library for ALSA applicatio
ii  libatk1.0-0 1.28.0-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libbz2-1.0  1.0.5-4  high-quality block-sorting file co
ii  libc6   2.10.2-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libcairo2   1.8.8-2  The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libdbus-1-3 1.2.20-2 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libfontconfig1  2.8.0-2  generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype62.3.11-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgcc1 1:4.4.3-2GCC support library
ii  libglib2.0-02.22.4-1 The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgtk2.0-0 2.18.7-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libhunspell-1.2-0   1.2.8-6  spell checker and morphological an
ii  libjpeg62   6b-16.1  The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libmozjs2d  1.9.1.8-3The Mozilla SpiderMonkey JavaScrip
ii  libnspr4-0d 4.8.3-1  NetScape Portable Runtime Library
ii  libnss3-1d  3.12.5-2 Network Security Service libraries
ii  libpango1.0-0   1.26.2-1 Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpng12-0  1.2.42-2 PNG library - runtime
ii  libreadline66.1-1GNU readline and history libraries
ii  libsqlite3-03.6.22-1 SQLite 3 shared library
ii  libstartup-notification 0.10-1   library for program launch feedbac
ii  libstdc++6  4.4.3-2  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-62:1.3.3-1X11 client-side library
ii  libxrender1 1:0.9.5-1X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  libxt6  1:1.0.7-1X11 toolkit intrinsics library
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages xulrunner-1.9.1 recommends:
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2  0.84-1 simple interprocess messaging syst
pn  libgconf2-4   none (no description available)
pn  libgnome2-0   none (no description available)
pn  libgnomeui-0  none (no description available)
pn  libgnomevfs2-0none (no description available)

xulrunner-1.9.1 suggests no packages.

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Bug#569589: Request for additional kernel modules in D-I for s390

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
tag 569589 pending
thanks

On Friday 12 February 2010, Stephen Powell wrote:
 dasd_fba_mod is essential to support FBA DASD.

This module is already included in dasd-modules.

 dasd_diag_mod is necessary when using the DIAG driver, which can be used
 with either CKD DASD or FBA DASD.

I've added this in a new udeb dasd-extra-modules. This udeb will *NOT* be 
loaded by default, but can be selected as an optional component in expert 
mode or when installing with priority=medium.
Possibly it could be included by default, but have chosen this solution as 
I have no way to check that and don't want to risk affecting regular 
installs by maybe making devices visible that are not actually supported.

I've added the vmcp module to core-modules as you suggested.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 M... looks like I was too conservative... Let's try to demote these
 to suggests once the current version hits testing.

Cool. Thanks Mike.


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Bug#570905: iceweasel is no longer a desktop environment independent browser

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 In that case I personally don't think we can maintain iceweasel's status
 as desktop independent browser for new installations and we'll have to
 consider removing it from the common desktop task in tasksel.
 Given that the default browsers for the various desktop environments
 have become much more mature since Sarge, I don't actually see that as a
 big problem. It may even help relieve some of the pressure for CD1.
 Possibly we should keep it as the default browser for XFCE and/or LXDE.

Latest is that the Gnome library Recommends should be demoted to Suggests 
with the next upload. Not sure if that will be done for all four of them 
or only for some.

However, I think it's still worth considering removing iceweasel from the 
general desktop task and including it only for desktop environments that 
don't have a full-featured, mature web browser of their own.



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FYI: daily images borked; cause not yet known

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
Looks like syslinux has a regression:
http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/daily-borked1.png

There's also something wrong with the newt frontend:
http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/daily-borked2.png
http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/daily-borked3.png

I also saw that a few days ago with another local build, so it's not from 
today's uploads. There have been no new versions of newt and slang, so I'm 
not sure what the cause could be.

Hmmm. If I compare the MANIFEST.udebs from testing and my build the only 
thing that jumps out is:
-   libfribidi0-udeb 0.10.9-1+b1 amd64
+   libfribidi0-udeb 0.19.2-1 amd64

And that looks like a very likely candidate for this breakage.

I'll verify and file bugs.


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Bug#571044: fribidi: new version causes regressions in Debian Installer

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
Package: fribidi
Version: 0.19.2-1
Severity: serious
Tags: d-i

We're seeing regressions in the newt frontend with the new version of the 
fribidi udeb, as these screenshots show:
http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/daily-borked2.png
http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/daily-borked3.png

Note the line with the window title and the Go Back button.

If I build a D-I image using the fribidi version from testing, the problems 
disappear.



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Bug#570770: Debian Edu squeeze images

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 21 February 2010, Holger Levsen wrote:
 What VCS are you using, are you using one? ;)

Isn't that hard to find:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-cd.html



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Accepted hw-detect 1.76 (source all amd64)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.8
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:29:28 +0100
Source: hw-detect
Binary: hw-detect ethdetect disk-detect archdetect
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 1.76
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 archdetect - Hardware architecture detector (udeb)
 disk-detect - Detect disk drives (udeb)
 ethdetect  - Detect network hardware and load kernel drivers for it (udeb)
 hw-detect  - Detect hardware and load kernel drivers for it (udeb)
Changes: 
 hw-detect (1.76) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Joey Hess ]
   * check-missing-firmware: Try probing once for missing firmware before
 prompting for it to be provided.
   * Add new preseedable ethdetect/prompt_missing_firmware, which will
 be used by oldsys-preseed to avoid firmware prompting happening
 before network-console starts.
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Queue pciutils for installation if the system has a pci bus.
   * Drop --no-recommends option for installation of acpi-related packages.
 Requires base-installer 1.105.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Israt Jahan
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
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Accepted live-installer 17 (source all amd64)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Version: 17
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 live-installer - Install the system (udeb)
 live-installer-launcher - Debian Installer desktop launcher for live systems
Changes: 
 live-installer (17) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Update waypoints in line with changes in base-installer.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
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Accepted partman-auto 90 (source amd64)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:15:54 +0100
Source: partman-auto
Binary: partman-auto
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 90
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-auto - Automatically partition storage devices (partman) (udeb)
Changes: 
 partman-auto (90) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Merge from Ubuntu:
 - Remove explicit $primary{ } specifiers from standard recipes. We only
   need them to be primary if no other primary partitions exist already.
   * Change expert recipe error message to focus on the available disk space
 being too small, not the recipe being too large (idea from Rorschach,
 LP: #415488).
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Remove no longer needed Lintian override for missing Standards-Version
 field.
   * After choosing biggest free option followed by backing up from the recipe
 dialog, don't exit to main menu but return to initial partman-auto dialog.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
   * Galician (gl.po) by Marce Villarino
   * Italian (it.po) by Milo Casagrande
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
   * Thai (th.po) by Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
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Accepted partman-auto-crypto 13 (source all)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:11:35 +0100
Source: partman-auto-crypto
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Architecture: source all
Version: 13
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-auto-crypto - Automatically partition storage devices using crypto and 
LVM (udeb)
Closes: 564718
Changes: 
 partman-auto-crypto (13) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Upgrade to debhelper v7.
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Remove no longer needed Lintian override for missing Standards-
 Version field.
   * Invoke clean_method early so that existing swap partitions get untagged as
 such to avoid triggering unsafe_swap while preparing LVM. Closes: #564718.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Asturian (ast.po) by Marcos Antonio Alvarez Costales
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Israt Jahan
   * Esperanto (eo.po) by Felipe Castro
   * French (fr.po)
   * Hindi (hi.po)
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Accepted partman-auto-lvm 34 (source all)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:12:43 +0100
Source: partman-auto-lvm
Binary: partman-auto-lvm
Architecture: source all
Version: 34
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-auto-lvm - Automatically partition storage devices using LVM (udeb)
Changes: 
 partman-auto-lvm (34) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Upgrade to debhelper v7.
   * Merge from Ubuntu:
 - Ensure that there is always at least one primary partition after
   autopartitioning, considering only the non-LVM parts of the recipe.
 - Strip leading whitespace from output of 'vgs' (LP: #49).
   * The automatic LVM envelope partition doesn't necessarily need to be
 primary.  /boot is probably a better candidate for being primary if
 nothing's explicitly specified, and ensure_primary will take care of
 that.
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Remove no longer needed Lintian override for missing Standards-Version
 field.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Asturian (ast.po) by Marcos Antonio Alvarez Costales
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Israt Jahan
   * Danish (da.po) by Ask Hjorth Larsen
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
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   * Estonian (et.po) by Mattias Põldaru
   * Basque (eu.po) by Piarres Beobide
   * Hindi (hi.po)
   * Italian (it.po) by Milo Casagrande
   * Korean (ko.po) by Changwoo Ryu
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
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Accepted partman-base 138 (source amd64)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Source: partman-base
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 138
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-base - Partition the storage devices (partman) (udeb)
 partman-utils - Utilities related to partitioning (udeb)
Changes: 
 partman-base (138) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Fix display of partman/text/dmraid_volume.  'dmraid -s -c -c superset'
 doesn't seem to work (at least not for ISW), but 'dmraid -s -c -c
 device' works and produces the information we need.
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * base.sh: fix incorrect variable use for kfreebsd in humandev().
   * Add post-base-installer.d script to apt-install dmraid into target.
 Included here as dmraid does not have a separate partman component.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Israt Jahan
   * Panjabi (pa.po) by A S Alam
   * Romanian (ro.po) by Eddy Petrișor
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
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Accepted partman-basicmethods 44 (source all)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:17:09 +0100
Source: partman-basicmethods
Binary: partman-basicmethods
Architecture: source all
Version: 44
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-basicmethods - Basic partition usage methods for partman (udeb)
Changes: 
 partman-basicmethods (44) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Upgrade to debhelper v7.
   * Don't send the SET_FLAGS command when the new flags are the same as the
 old ones; this avoids partition tables being rewritten when all we did
 was set the method to don't use (LP: #445067).
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Remove no longer needed Lintian override for missing Standards-Version
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 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Asturian (ast.po) by Marcos Antonio Alvarez Costales
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * Hindi (hi.po)
   * Italian (it.po) by Milo Casagrande
   * Polish (pl.po) by Bartosz Fenski
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
   * Simplified Chinese (zh_CN.po) by 苏运强
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Accepted partman-crypto 41 (source all amd64)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Source: partman-crypto
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Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 41
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-crypto - Add to partman support for block device encryption (udeb)
 partman-crypto-dm - Add to partman support for dm-crypt encryption (udeb)
 partman-crypto-loop - Add to partman support for loop-AES encryption (udeb)
Changes: 
 partman-crypto (41) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Move installation of dmsetup to post-base-installer hook script.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Arabic (ar.po) by Ossama M. Khayat
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * Bulgarian (bg.po) by Damyan Ivanov
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Israt Jahan
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
   * Greek, Modern (1453-) (el.po)
   * Galician (gl.po) by Marce Villarino
   * Bokmål, Norwegian (nb.po) by Hans Fredrik Nordhaug
   * Panjabi (pa.po) by A S Alam
   * Polish (pl.po) by Bartosz Fenski
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
   * Simplified Chinese (zh_CN.po) by 苏运强
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  to main/p/partman-crypto/partman-crypto_41.tar.gz
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Accepted partman-ext3 59 (source all)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:18:34 +0100
Source: partman-ext3
Binary: partman-ext3
Architecture: source all
Version: 59
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-ext3 - Add to partman support for ext3 and ext4 (udeb)
Closes: 504397 509799
Changes: 
 partman-ext3 (59) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Upgrade to debhelper v7.
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Remove no longer needed Lintian override for missing Standards-Version
 field.
 .
   [ Christian Perrier ]
   * Drop double spaces after period in templates.
 .
   [ Martin Michlmayr ]
   * check.d/ext2_or_ext3_boot: when a RAID1 partition is used for /boot
 don't check whether it's the 1st primary partition.  There's no good
 way to map a RAID partition to its physical partition at the moment.
 (Closes: #504397).
   * check.d/ext2_or_ext3_boot: ensure that the /boot partition has the
 bootable flag (Closes: #509799).
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Amharic (am.po) by Tegegne Tefera
   * Arabic (ar.po) by Ossama M. Khayat
   * Asturian (ast.po) by marquinos
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * Bulgarian (bg.po) by Damyan Ivanov
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Israt Jahan
   * Czech (cs.po) by Miroslav Kure
   * Danish (da.po) by Ask Hjorth Larsen
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
   * Greek, Modern (1453-) (el.po)
   * Esperanto (eo.po) by Felipe Castro
   * Spanish (es.po) by Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
   * Estonian (et.po) by Mattias Põldaru
   * Basque (eu.po) by Piarres Beobide
   * Finnish (fi.po) by Esko Arajärvi
   * French (fr.po) by Christian Perrier
   * Galician (gl.po) by Marce Villarino
   * Hindi (hi.po)
   * Hungarian (hu.po) by SZERVÁC Attila
   * Italian (it.po) by Milo Casagrande
   * Japanese (ja.po) by Kenshi Muto
   * Korean (ko.po) by Changwoo Ryu
   * Lithuanian (lt.po) by Kęstutis Biliūnas
   * Marathi (mr.po) by Sampada
   * Bokmål, Norwegian (nb.po) by Hans Fredrik Nordhaug
   * Dutch (nl.po) by Frans Pop
   * Polish (pl.po) by Bartosz Fenski
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   * Romanian (ro.po) by Eddy Petrișor
   * Russian (ru.po) by Yuri Kozlov
   * Slovak (sk.po) by Ivan Masár
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
   * Swedish (sv.po) by Daniel Nylander
   * Thai (th.po) by Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
   * Turkish (tr.po) by Mert Dirik
   * Vietnamese (vi.po) by Clytie Siddall
   * Wolof (wo.po) by Mouhamadou Mamoune Mbacke
   * Simplified Chinese (zh_CN.po) by 苏运强
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Accepted partman-lvm 69 (source all)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:05:41 +0100
Source: partman-lvm
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Version: 69
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-lvm - Adds support for LVM to partman (udeb)
Changes: 
 partman-lvm (69) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Upgrade to debhelper v7.
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Remove no longer needed Lintian override for missing Standards-
 Version field.
   * Move installation of lvm2 to post-base-installer hook script.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Arabic (ar.po) by Ossama M. Khayat
   * Asturian (ast.po) by Marcos Antonio Alvarez Costales
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * Bulgarian (bg.po) by Damyan Ivanov
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Israt Jahan
   * Danish (da.po) by Ask Hjorth Larsen
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
   * Greek, Modern (1453-) (el.po)
   * Esperanto (eo.po) by Felipe Castro
   * Estonian (et.po) by Mattias Põldaru
   * Finnish (fi.po) by Esko Arajärvi
   * Galician (gl.po) by Marce Villarino
   * Korean (ko.po) by Changwoo Ryu
   * Lithuanian (lt.po) by Kęstutis Biliūnas
   * Bokmål, Norwegian (nb.po) by Hans Fredrik Nordhaug
   * Dutch (nl.po) by Frans Pop
   * Panjabi (pa.po) by A S Alam
   * Polish (pl.po) by Bartosz Fenski
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
   * Thai (th.po) by Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
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   * Vietnamese (vi.po) by Clytie Siddall
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Accepted partman-md 50 (source all)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Source: partman-md
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Version: 50
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-md - Add to partman support for MD (udeb)
Changes: 
 partman-md (50) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Move installation of mdadm to post-base-installer hook script.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Israt Jahan
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
   * Finnish (fi.po) by Esko Arajärvi
   * Panjabi (pa.po) by A S Alam
   * Polish (pl.po) by Bartosz Fenski
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
   * Simplified Chinese (zh_CN.po) by 苏运强
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  to main/p/partman-md/partman-md_50.tar.gz
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  to main/p/partman-md/partman-md_50_all.udeb


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Accepted partman-partitioning 73 (source amd64)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:19:51 +0100
Source: partman-partitioning
Binary: partman-partitioning
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 73
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-partitioning - Partitioning operations for partman (udeb)
Changes: 
 partman-partitioning (73) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Merge from Ubuntu:
 - When creating a new partition, default to logical if a primary
   partition already exists, since there are stricter constraints on
   primary partitions and the only real reasons for them are Microsoft
   operating systems or boot partitions (LP: #218938).
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Remove no longer needed Lintian override for missing Standards-Version
 field.
   * Drop support for the discontinued lpia architecture.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Arabic (ar.po) by Ossama M. Khayat
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * Bulgarian (bg.po) by Damyan Ivanov
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Israt Jahan
   * Danish (da.po) by Ask Hjorth Larsen
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
   * Greek, Modern (1453-) (el.po)
   * Esperanto (eo.po) by Felipe Castro
   * Spanish (es.po) by Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
   * Finnish (fi.po) by Esko Arajärvi
   * Galician (gl.po) by Marce Villarino
   * Hebrew (he.po) by Lior Kaplan
   * Hindi (hi.po)
   * Hungarian (hu.po) by SZERVÁC Attila
   * Italian (it.po) by Milo Casagrande
   * Japanese (ja.po) by Kenshi Muto
   * Lithuanian (lt.po) by Kęstutis Biliūnas
   * Bokmål, Norwegian (nb.po) by Hans Fredrik Nordhaug
   * Dutch (nl.po) by Frans Pop
   * Panjabi (pa.po) by A S Alam
   * Polish (pl.po) by Bartosz Fenski
   * Romanian (ro.po) by Eddy Petrișor
   * Slovak (sk.po) by Ivan Masár
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
   * Thai (th.po) by Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
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Accepted partman-target 65 (source all)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Format: 1.8
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:13:45 +0100
Source: partman-target
Binary: partman-target
Architecture: source all
Version: 65
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-target - Provides partman with ability to prepare /target (udeb)
Changes: 
 partman-target (65) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Merge from Ubuntu:
 - Rather than pretending that partitions have no longer been formatted
   after the partitioner is complete, reset their intended state from
   format the partition to keep and use the existing data. This still
   solves the original problem reported in Debian bug #256090 while also
   stopping partitions from being needlessly reformatted if you go back
   to the partitioner after base system installation and then forward
   again (LP: #29712).
   * Use ${var:-alternative} syntax in active_partition/method/choices rather
 than writing out an 'if' block.
   * Only run display.d/init_help the first time.
 .
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Remove no longer needed Lintian override for missing Standards-Version
 field.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Arabic (ar.po) by Ossama M. Khayat
   * Asturian (ast.po) by astur
   * Belarusian (be.po) by Pavel Piatruk
   * Bulgarian (bg.po) by Damyan Ivanov
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
   * Spanish (es.po) by Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
   * Galician (gl.po) by Marce Villarino
   * Dutch (nl.po) by Frans Pop
   * Panjabi (pa.po) by A S Alam
   * Polish (pl.po) by Bartosz Fenski
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
   * Simplified Chinese (zh_CN.po) by 苏运强
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Accepted pkgsel 0.27 (source all)

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:38:23 +0100
Source: pkgsel
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Architecture: source all
Version: 0.27
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 pkgsel - Select and install packages (udeb)
Changes: 
 pkgsel (0.27) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Use apt-install instead of apt-get to install popularity-contest. Use the
 --no-recommends option to avoid pulling in an MTA (exim4).
   * Ensure installation of popularity-contest is done late to keep its dialog
 as close as possible to tasksel.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * German (de.po) by Holger Wansing
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
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  to main/p/pkgsel/pkgsel_0.27.tar.gz
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Bug#570749: vlc-data: file conflict with Lenny version of vlc

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
Package: vlc-data
Version: 1.0.5-1
Severity: serious

I backported vlc myself for Lenny from unstable.

During the upgrade (from version 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) I got the following
error:

Unpacking vlc-data (from .../vlc-data_1.0.5-1~bpo1_all.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/vlc-data_1.0.5-1~bpo1_all.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/pixmaps/vlc.png', which is also in package vlc

As I did not make any changes that would affect this, I expect the file
conflict will also affect Lenny-Squeeze upgrades.



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Bug#533535: Bug#546045: hdparm: Specifying a disk using the by-id etc. links does not work with udev/hotplug

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
There's an alternative patch floating around on launchpad [1]. It's
against Ubuntu's udev script but also applies against our init script.

Main difference is that it also works for the non-udev case, and I see no 
good reason why it should not apply for both, especially as long as hdparm 
is also called from an init script at boot time.

It would be great to have this change included in Squeeze.

I'm CCing #533535 as, if applied, this change should not get lost if
the init script is dropped in favor of a udev script.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hdparm/+bug/222458

--- /lib/udev/hdparm2008-06-19 10:46:49.0 +0200
+++ /tmp/udev/hdparm2009-01-19 23:08:10.0 +0100
@@ -90,7 +90,12 @@ egrep -v '^[[:space:]]*(#|$)' /etc/hdpar
   IN_BLOCK=0
   ;;
 *)
-  DISC=$KEY
+  if [ -h $KEY ]
+  then
+DISC=$(readlink -m $KEY)
+  else
+DISC=$KEY
+  fi
   OPTIONS=$DEFAULT
   OPT_QUIET=$DEF_QUIET
   WAS_RUN=0



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Bug#570770: Debian Edu squeeze images

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 21 February 2010, Holger Levsen wrote:
 What VCS are you using, are you using one? ;)

Isn't that hard to find:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-cd.html



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Bug#570789: [squeeze alpha1] installationsreport: problem configuring console keymap

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 570789 busybox 1:1.10.2-2
thanks

On Sunday 21 February 2010, Holger Wansing wrote:
 In german we have umlauts (öäüß), which are correctly displayed on
 the console, when I type them, but it seems they are not completely
 deleted, when I delete them.

This is a very old issue. I've seen it quite a few times before, but no 
idea what the cause is. The most likely candidate is busybox' shell.

That seems to be confirmed as I can reproduce the same effect 
after 'busybox sh' on an installed system.

So let's reassign it there. I'm setting the version to Lenny as I'm certain 
that's affected too.



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Bug#512679: initramfs-tools: 'more' pager is broken in initramfs shell

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 512679 initramfs-tools 0.92o
thanks

I can reproduce the problem for Lenny in the initramfs debug shell, but 
more works fine if I do 'busybox sh' and then 'find | more'.

I guess that the most likely cause of the problem is either console or 
keyboard configuration in the initramfs environment, so reassigning back.



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Bug#570789: [squeeze alpha1] installationsreport: problem configuring console keymap

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
tag 570789 fixed-upstream
thanks

On Sunday 21 February 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 It needs to be utf-8 aware, yes.  I'm not sure upstream will likely
 include that, however.

Looks like they will :-) Fixed in 1.16.0.



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Bug#568292: auto-install: pulls netcfg into images that should not have it

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 03 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 Here's a final patch set that should address the current deficiencies
 (and allows for console-setup too).

Now that alpha1 has been released I've committed and uploaded this.

Will commit changes in pkg-lists when auto-install has been accepted from 
NEW and I'll also do some basic testing after that.



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Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
clone 570579 -1
reassign -1 tasksel 2.81
retitle -1 iceweasel is no longer a desktop environment independent browser
thanks

(Fairly full quote because of CCs.)

Thanks a lot for your detailed reply Mike.

On Saturday 20 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:18:09PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  But I question if the Recommends of those packages is policy compliant
  as Recommends should only be used for packages that would be found
  together with this one in all but unusual installations [1].
  And that's only true for systems running a GNOME desktop environment.
  For systems running KDE the GNOME packages are not needed and even in
  a lot of cases very much not desired.

 Except that Iceweasel has various things that break when the gnome
 libraries are not installed, such as icons for libgnomeui, and external
 handlers for libgnomevfs and libgconf (it still does broken things under
 KDE, but it actually works better than without).

I guess for the icon issue you mean #561902? I don't see any problem with 
the search engine dropdown list without libgnomeui-0 installed under KDE.

Can't tell about external handlers without knowing what exactly to try.

I'm unlikely to encounter issues myself as I run Lenny on my desktop 
systems and as I'm only a very light user of iceweasel anyway (only for 
sites that konqueror does not handle correctly).

 The only one that really isn't strictly required in the libdbus-glib
 one.

  As iceweasel is supposed to be desktop environment independent, I urge
  you to reconsider this change. IMO the current Recommends make
  iceweasel unsuitable for default installation.
  I also feel that for packages like iceweasel integration support for
  specific desktop environments should always be optional.

 Reality is different from theory. While Iceweasel is supposed to be DE
 independent, it really isn't. Sad reality, but still reality.

That is indeed very sad. One would hope upstreams, especially ones for 
important software such as ice*, would have more clue.

 Now, as I said, there are several things that will break if these
 libraries are not installed (note you can still prove me wrong), but
 there are things we can probably do to make things better:

 - As said above, libdbus-glib-1-2 is not strictly necessary.
 - IIRC, in 1.9.2, upstream switched most gnomevfs uses to gio, which is
   in glib. That may help making the dependencies lighter.
 - There are patches for better KDE integration in opensuse, but we can't
   take them as-is.

 The first two above could be worked in the squeeze time-frame. I doubt
 the latter can.

 In any case, dependencies on libgnome2-0, libgnomeui-0 and libgconf2-4
 are here to stay, IMHO. I'd go as far as saying they should be strong
 dependencies, but I allow those people that don't like gnome libraries
 and who want to shoot themselves in the foot to do it.

In that case I personally don't think we can maintain iceweasel's status as 
desktop independent browser for new installations and we'll have to 
consider removing it from the common desktop task in tasksel.
Given that the default browsers for the various desktop environments have 
become much more mature since Sarge, I don't actually see that as a big 
problem. It may even help relieve some of the pressure for CD1.
Possibly we should keep it as the default browser for XFCE and/or LXDE.

Therefore cloning to tasksel for further discussion.

I'm leaving the original report against xulrunner as I personally still do 
consider this whole issue a regression when compared to earlier Debian 
releases, but I appreciate that your hands are tied. I hope that things 
will improve.

Thanks,
FJP



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Bug#570906: w3m: Recommends for migemo should be lowered to Suggests

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
Package: w3m
Version: 0.5.2-2.1
Justification: Policy 7.2
Severity: serious

Given the package description for migemo installing it as a Recommends
and thus by default for all users of w3g is IMO not correct.
Recommends should only be used (see policy 7.2) for packages that are
found together in all but unusual installation.

It is especially problematic because of the very heavy dependencies
migemo has: it pulls in emacs and ruby. Both of those are completely
irrelevant for w3m's base functionality and I would think that migemo
is only relevant for Japanese users.

So IMO it completely fails the requirements for a status as Recommends.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-trunk-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages w3m depends on:
ii  libc6   2.10.2-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libgc1c21:6.8-1.2conservative garbage collector for
ii  libgpm2 1.20.4-3.3   General Purpose Mouse - shared lib
ii  libncurses5 5.7+20090803-2   shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libssl0.9.8 0.9.8k-8 SSL shared libraries
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages w3m recommends:
ii  ca-certificates   20090814   Common CA certificates

Versions of packages w3m suggests:
ii  man-db2.5.7-1on-line manual pager
ii  menu  2.1.43 generates programs menu for all me
pn  migemonone (no description available)
ii  mime-support  3.48-1 MIME files 'mime.types'  'mailcap
pn  w3m-elnone (no description available)
pn  w3m-img   none (no description available)

-- no debconf information



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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
clone 570579 -1
reassign -1 tasksel 2.81
retitle -1 iceweasel is no longer a desktop environment independent browser
thanks

(Fairly full quote because of CCs.)

Thanks a lot for your detailed reply Mike.

On Saturday 20 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:18:09PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  But I question if the Recommends of those packages is policy compliant
  as Recommends should only be used for packages that would be found
  together with this one in all but unusual installations [1].
  And that's only true for systems running a GNOME desktop environment.
  For systems running KDE the GNOME packages are not needed and even in
  a lot of cases very much not desired.

 Except that Iceweasel has various things that break when the gnome
 libraries are not installed, such as icons for libgnomeui, and external
 handlers for libgnomevfs and libgconf (it still does broken things under
 KDE, but it actually works better than without).

I guess for the icon issue you mean #561902? I don't see any problem with 
the search engine dropdown list without libgnomeui-0 installed under KDE.

Can't tell about external handlers without knowing what exactly to try.

I'm unlikely to encounter issues myself as I run Lenny on my desktop 
systems and as I'm only a very light user of iceweasel anyway (only for 
sites that konqueror does not handle correctly).

 The only one that really isn't strictly required in the libdbus-glib
 one.

  As iceweasel is supposed to be desktop environment independent, I urge
  you to reconsider this change. IMO the current Recommends make
  iceweasel unsuitable for default installation.
  I also feel that for packages like iceweasel integration support for
  specific desktop environments should always be optional.

 Reality is different from theory. While Iceweasel is supposed to be DE
 independent, it really isn't. Sad reality, but still reality.

That is indeed very sad. One would hope upstreams, especially ones for 
important software such as ice*, would have more clue.

 Now, as I said, there are several things that will break if these
 libraries are not installed (note you can still prove me wrong), but
 there are things we can probably do to make things better:

 - As said above, libdbus-glib-1-2 is not strictly necessary.
 - IIRC, in 1.9.2, upstream switched most gnomevfs uses to gio, which is
   in glib. That may help making the dependencies lighter.
 - There are patches for better KDE integration in opensuse, but we can't
   take them as-is.

 The first two above could be worked in the squeeze time-frame. I doubt
 the latter can.

 In any case, dependencies on libgnome2-0, libgnomeui-0 and libgconf2-4
 are here to stay, IMHO. I'd go as far as saying they should be strong
 dependencies, but I allow those people that don't like gnome libraries
 and who want to shoot themselves in the foot to do it.

In that case I personally don't think we can maintain iceweasel's status as 
desktop independent browser for new installations and we'll have to 
consider removing it from the common desktop task in tasksel.
Given that the default browsers for the various desktop environments have 
become much more mature since Sarge, I don't actually see that as a big 
problem. It may even help relieve some of the pressure for CD1.
Possibly we should keep it as the default browser for XFCE and/or LXDE.

Therefore cloning to tasksel for further discussion.

I'm leaving the original report against xulrunner as I personally still do 
consider this whole issue a regression when compared to earlier Debian 
releases, but I appreciate that your hands are tied. I hope that things 
will improve.

Thanks,
FJP


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Re: pac207: problem with Trust USB webcam

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 17 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 Thanks a lot to you both for the pointers! I've gotten vlc to work using
 v4l1compat.so. The image is recognizable, but the color etc is way off.
 Haven't found a way to correct that yet.

 But the main thing for me ATM is that it's working now.

JFYI

I've backported vlc 1.0.5 (which has proper v4l2 support) to Debian stable 
and that works beautifully.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Switching g-i from DirectFB to X11 -- specific issues/comments

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 19 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 In this mail some more specific issues I noticed while
 testing/reviewing.

I forgot something here.

Please use
   XC-Package-Type: udeb
instead of
   Package-Type: udeb
for all new udebs.

The advantage of the first is that it will prevent that line from being 
included in the udeb's control file and thus in dpkg status file (which 
saves some memory).

The fact that it's a udeb is only relevant for the build process and not 
inside the udeb itself.


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Bug#570789: [squeeze alpha1] installationsreport: problem configuring console keymap

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 570789 busybox 1:1.10.2-2
thanks

On Sunday 21 February 2010, Holger Wansing wrote:
 In german we have umlauts (öäüß), which are correctly displayed on
 the console, when I type them, but it seems they are not completely
 deleted, when I delete them.

This is a very old issue. I've seen it quite a few times before, but no 
idea what the cause is. The most likely candidate is busybox' shell.

That seems to be confirmed as I can reproduce the same effect 
after 'busybox sh' on an installed system.

So let's reassign it there. I'm setting the version to Lenny as I'm certain 
that's affected too.



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Bug#512679: initramfs-tools: 'more' pager is broken in initramfs shell

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 512679 initramfs-tools 0.92o
thanks

I can reproduce the problem for Lenny in the initramfs debug shell, but 
more works fine if I do 'busybox sh' and then 'find | more'.

I guess that the most likely cause of the problem is either console or 
keyboard configuration in the initramfs environment, so reassigning back.



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Bug#570789: [squeeze alpha1] installationsreport: problem configuring console keymap

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
tag 570789 fixed-upstream
thanks

On Sunday 21 February 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 It needs to be utf-8 aware, yes.  I'm not sure upstream will likely
 include that, however.

Looks like they will :-) Fixed in 1.16.0.



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Re: [RFC] Draft of announcement and errata, last chance of change

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 21 February 2010, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 Thanks by helping improving/fixing it.

Shouldn't this errata item be expanded?
It looks fairly confusing and meaningless as it is.

! GRUB stuff
! Something about issues introduced by GRUB 2. See #477094


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Bug#568292: auto-install: pulls netcfg into images that should not have it

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 03 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 Here's a final patch set that should address the current deficiencies
 (and allows for console-setup too).

Now that alpha1 has been released I've committed and uploaded this.

Will commit changes in pkg-lists when auto-install has been accepted from 
NEW and I'll also do some basic testing after that.



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Re: Processing of netcfg_1.52_amd64.changes

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
This is brilliant. You've just seriously broken installations in unstable.

On Monday 22 February 2010, Archive Administrator wrote:
 netcfg_1.52_amd64.changes uploaded successfully to localhost

This should *never* have been uploaded before a new busybox, because the 
busybox dhcp client does not work with the current version.

 base-installer_1.105_amd64.changes uploaded successfully to localhost

This included a very clear instruction in the changelog:
  * Drop install_filesystems step as that is now being taken care of by
post-base-installer.d hook scripts.
!   Requires: partman-base (138), partman-md (50), partman-lvm (69),
!   partman-crypto (41).

Thanks a lot!


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Re: Processing of netcfg_1.52_amd64.changes

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 This is brilliant. You've just seriously broken installations in
 unstable.

 On Monday 22 February 2010, Archive Administrator wrote:
  netcfg_1.52_amd64.changes uploaded successfully to localhost

 This should *never* have been uploaded before a new busybox, because the
 busybox dhcp client does not work with the current version.

I've added a workaround for this by temporarily including dhcp3-client-udeb 
in all images.

  base-installer_1.105_amd64.changes uploaded successfully to localhost

 This included a very clear instruction in the changelog:
   * Drop install_filesystems step as that is now being taken care of by
 post-base-installer.d hook scripts.
 !   Requires: partman-base (138), partman-md (50), partman-lvm (69),
 !   partman-crypto (41).

I'll upload these packages, as well as live-installer.
I'd have liked to do some additional testing first, but well.


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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
clone 570579 -1
reassign -1 tasksel 2.81
retitle -1 iceweasel is no longer a desktop environment independent browser
thanks

(Fairly full quote because of CCs.)

Thanks a lot for your detailed reply Mike.

On Saturday 20 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:18:09PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  But I question if the Recommends of those packages is policy compliant
  as Recommends should only be used for packages that would be found
  together with this one in all but unusual installations [1].
  And that's only true for systems running a GNOME desktop environment.
  For systems running KDE the GNOME packages are not needed and even in
  a lot of cases very much not desired.

 Except that Iceweasel has various things that break when the gnome
 libraries are not installed, such as icons for libgnomeui, and external
 handlers for libgnomevfs and libgconf (it still does broken things under
 KDE, but it actually works better than without).

I guess for the icon issue you mean #561902? I don't see any problem with 
the search engine dropdown list without libgnomeui-0 installed under KDE.

Can't tell about external handlers without knowing what exactly to try.

I'm unlikely to encounter issues myself as I run Lenny on my desktop 
systems and as I'm only a very light user of iceweasel anyway (only for 
sites that konqueror does not handle correctly).

 The only one that really isn't strictly required in the libdbus-glib
 one.

  As iceweasel is supposed to be desktop environment independent, I urge
  you to reconsider this change. IMO the current Recommends make
  iceweasel unsuitable for default installation.
  I also feel that for packages like iceweasel integration support for
  specific desktop environments should always be optional.

 Reality is different from theory. While Iceweasel is supposed to be DE
 independent, it really isn't. Sad reality, but still reality.

That is indeed very sad. One would hope upstreams, especially ones for 
important software such as ice*, would have more clue.

 Now, as I said, there are several things that will break if these
 libraries are not installed (note you can still prove me wrong), but
 there are things we can probably do to make things better:

 - As said above, libdbus-glib-1-2 is not strictly necessary.
 - IIRC, in 1.9.2, upstream switched most gnomevfs uses to gio, which is
   in glib. That may help making the dependencies lighter.
 - There are patches for better KDE integration in opensuse, but we can't
   take them as-is.

 The first two above could be worked in the squeeze time-frame. I doubt
 the latter can.

 In any case, dependencies on libgnome2-0, libgnomeui-0 and libgconf2-4
 are here to stay, IMHO. I'd go as far as saying they should be strong
 dependencies, but I allow those people that don't like gnome libraries
 and who want to shoot themselves in the foot to do it.

In that case I personally don't think we can maintain iceweasel's status as 
desktop independent browser for new installations and we'll have to 
consider removing it from the common desktop task in tasksel.
Given that the default browsers for the various desktop environments have 
become much more mature since Sarge, I don't actually see that as a big 
problem. It may even help relieve some of the pressure for CD1.
Possibly we should keep it as the default browser for XFCE and/or LXDE.

Therefore cloning to tasksel for further discussion.

I'm leaving the original report against xulrunner as I personally still do 
consider this whole issue a regression when compared to earlier Debian 
releases, but I appreciate that your hands are tied. I hope that things 
will improve.

Thanks,
FJP


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Re: Thai support in framebuffer d-i: test images available

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 Update: I saw commit logs in d-i SVN regarding this.
 So, I have tried d-i squeeze alpha 1 image, and Thai
 is not in the language list yet. What's wrong?

It's not included in the alpha release. Try a daily built image.


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Bug#570749: vlc-data: file conflict with Lenny version of vlc

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
Package: vlc-data
Version: 1.0.5-1
Severity: serious

I backported vlc myself for Lenny from unstable.

During the upgrade (from version 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) I got the following
error:

Unpacking vlc-data (from .../vlc-data_1.0.5-1~bpo1_all.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/vlc-data_1.0.5-1~bpo1_all.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/pixmaps/vlc.png', which is also in package vlc

As I did not make any changes that would affect this, I expect the file
conflict will also affect Lenny-Squeeze upgrades.



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Bug#512679: initramfs-tools: 'more' pager is broken in initramfs shell

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 512679 initramfs-tools 0.92o
thanks

I can reproduce the problem for Lenny in the initramfs debug shell, but 
more works fine if I do 'busybox sh' and then 'find | more'.

I guess that the most likely cause of the problem is either console or 
keyboard configuration in the initramfs environment, so reassigning back.


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Bug#570749: vlc-data: file conflict with Lenny version of vlc

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
Package: vlc-data
Version: 1.0.5-1
Severity: serious

I backported vlc myself for Lenny from unstable.

During the upgrade (from version 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) I got the following
error:

Unpacking vlc-data (from .../vlc-data_1.0.5-1~bpo1_all.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/vlc-data_1.0.5-1~bpo1_all.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/pixmaps/vlc.png', which is also in package vlc

As I did not make any changes that would affect this, I expect the file
conflict will also affect Lenny-Squeeze upgrades.



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Bug#570906: w3m: Recommends for migemo should be lowered to Suggests

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
Package: w3m
Version: 0.5.2-2.1
Justification: Policy 7.2
Severity: serious

Given the package description for migemo installing it as a Recommends
and thus by default for all users of w3g is IMO not correct.
Recommends should only be used (see policy 7.2) for packages that are
found together in all but unusual installation.

It is especially problematic because of the very heavy dependencies
migemo has: it pulls in emacs and ruby. Both of those are completely
irrelevant for w3m's base functionality and I would think that migemo
is only relevant for Japanese users.

So IMO it completely fails the requirements for a status as Recommends.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-trunk-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages w3m depends on:
ii  libc6   2.10.2-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libgc1c21:6.8-1.2conservative garbage collector for
ii  libgpm2 1.20.4-3.3   General Purpose Mouse - shared lib
ii  libncurses5 5.7+20090803-2   shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libssl0.9.8 0.9.8k-8 SSL shared libraries
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages w3m recommends:
ii  ca-certificates   20090814   Common CA certificates

Versions of packages w3m suggests:
ii  man-db2.5.7-1on-line manual pager
ii  menu  2.1.43 generates programs menu for all me
pn  migemonone (no description available)
ii  mime-support  3.48-1 MIME files 'mime.types'  'mailcap
pn  w3m-elnone (no description available)
pn  w3m-img   none (no description available)

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Re: [RFC] Draft of announcement and errata, last chance of change

2010-02-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 20 February 2010, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 Please look at errata draft at
 http://people.debian.org/~otavio/d-i/errata.en.html

 Country names not properly sorted
 The country names, in Choose mirror step, are sorted by the country
 code being difficult to find some countries on the list.

Should be:
  Country names not properly sorted in English
  During mirror selection the list of country name is sorted by
  country codes instead of country names, which can make it difficult
  to find some countries on the list. This only affects installations
  in English.

 Some USB keyboards may not work
 Some USB kerboards require specific kernel modules for proper support.
 Those are missing in current installer. See #561036,  #567431. Fixed for
 next release.

Incorrect indentation.
s/kerboards/keyboards/
s/Fixed/Will be fixed/

 sparc: silo bootloader installation problem
 The installation of the silo bootloader to the target system fails.
 See #565639.  

Should be:
  The silo bootloader is not correctly installed to the target system.
  Because of this the reboot will fail. See #565639 for details.


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Re: Thai support in framebuffer d-i: test images available

2010-02-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 20 February 2010, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 In fact, what I observed was not true. When I checked it again, I found
 that not all cases had this problem. Only one or two did. And the lines
 with this problem happened to be long enough to touch the dialog border.
 So, I tend to believe it's newt's problem.

So you think the problem is incorrect calculation of line length and thus 
incorrect line wrapping? I guess the combining chars could throw off that 
calculation.


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Bug#498731: debootstrap: Move setup_devices to second_stage (or hurd-i386 fails)

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 19 February 2010, Michael Banck wrote:
 I will NMU debootstrap in the next days with the proposed patch if I
 don't hear anything back.

I think I'd prefer the attached patch as it makes the exception much 
clearer. Also, this patch will work for all hurd-* arches and not just 
hurd-i386 (which is more consistent with existing code).

For the fakechroot case I don't see how it would make any difference when 
the symlink is created, so I've left that in first stage for all arches.

If you could test the patch (and no one else objects) I'll make sure it 
gets included in the next upload.

Cheers,
FJP

diff --git a/packages/debootstrap/functions b/packages/debootstrap/functions
index 14f86ff..ff80a84 100644
--- a/packages/debootstrap/functions
+++ b/packages/debootstrap/functions
@@ -943,11 +943,16 @@ setup_proc_fakechroot () {
 }
 
 setup_devices () {
+	if doing_variant fakechroot; then
+		setup_devices_fakechroot
+		return 0
+	fi
+
 	case $ARCH in
+	hurd-*)
+		: ;; # delayed until second stage
 	kfreebsd-*)
 		in_target mount -t devfs devfs /dev ;;
-	hurd-*)
-		setup_devices_hurd ;;
 	*)
 		if [ -e $DEVICES_TARGZ ]; then
 			zcat $DEVICES_TARGZ | (cd $TARGET; tar -xf -)
diff --git a/packages/debootstrap/scripts/sid b/packages/debootstrap/scripts/sid
index 42c4785..e11e902 100644
--- a/packages/debootstrap/scripts/sid
+++ b/packages/debootstrap/scripts/sid
@@ -51,11 +51,7 @@ first_stage_install () {
 		cp $TARGET/usr/bin/md5sum.textutils $TARGET/usr/bin/md5sum
 	fi
 
-	if doing_variant fakechroot; then
-		setup_devices_fakechroot
-	else
-		setup_devices
-	fi
+	setup_devices
 
 	x_feign_install () {
 		local pkg=$1
@@ -76,6 +72,11 @@ Status: install ok installed  $TARGET/var/lib/dpkg/status
 }
 
 second_stage_install () {
+	case $ARCH in
+	hurd-*)
+		setup_devices_hurd ;;
+	esac
+
 	x_core_install () {
 		smallyes '' | in_target dpkg --force-depends --install $(debfor $@)
 	}


Bug#498731: debootstrap: Move setup_devices to second_stage (or hurd-i386 fails)

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
I will of course also change the call to setup_devices in 
first_stage_install() for all other scripts.

Note that the change is backwards compatible, so custom scripts that use 
the old call will not break.



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Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
Package: xulrunner
Version: 1.9.1.8-2
Severity: important
Tags: d-i
X-Debbugs-CC: task...@packages.debian.org

I was very surprised when I upgraded a KDE system to find that xulrunner 
tried to pull in all sorts of GNOME packages. It was quite a bit of work 
to unselect everything that got pulled in through those Recommends.

I'm talking about the Recommends for:
- libdbus-glib-1-2
- libgconf2-4
- libgnome2-0
- libgnomeui-0
- libgnomevfs2-0
And the deps for those packages are far from trivial.

I guess the change was introduced in 1.9.1.6-2 with:
   Merge xulrunner-1.9.1-gnome-support into xulrunner-1.9.1.

But I question if the Recommends of those packages is policy compliant as 
Recommends should only be used for packages that would be found together 
with this one in all but unusual installations [1].
And that's only true for systems running a GNOME desktop environment. For 
systems running KDE the GNOME packages are not needed and even in a lot of 
cases very much not desired.

I also question the value of the Recommends: if a user is running GNOME 
they will all be installed already anyway!

As Debian Installer now installs Recommends by default and the desktop 
tasks installs iceweasel for all desktops, this means that all those GNOME 
packages would get installed on KDE desktop systems by default, 

As iceweasel is supposed to be desktop environment independent, I urge you 
to reconsider this change. IMO the current Recommends make iceweasel 
unsuitable for default installation.
I also feel that for packages like iceweasel integration support for 
specific desktop environments should always be optional.

Cheers,
FJP

[1]http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps



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Fwd: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
FYI

Please follow up to the BR (#570579) if you have anything to add to it.

Cheers,
FJP

--  Forwarded Message  --
Package: xulrunner
Version: 1.9.1.8-2
Severity: important
Tags: d-i
X-Debbugs-CC: task...@packages.debian.org

I was very surprised when I upgraded a KDE system to find that xulrunner 
tried to pull in all sorts of GNOME packages. It was quite a bit of work 
to unselect everything that got pulled in through those Recommends.

I'm talking about the Recommends for:
- libdbus-glib-1-2
- libgconf2-4
- libgnome2-0
- libgnomeui-0
- libgnomevfs2-0
And the deps for those packages are far from trivial.

I guess the change was introduced in 1.9.1.6-2 with:
   Merge xulrunner-1.9.1-gnome-support into xulrunner-1.9.1.

But I question if the Recommends of those packages is policy compliant as 
Recommends should only be used for packages that would be found together 
with this one in all but unusual installations [1].
And that's only true for systems running a GNOME desktop environment. For 
systems running KDE the GNOME packages are not needed and even in a lot of 
cases very much not desired.

I also question the value of the Recommends: if a user is running GNOME 
they will all be installed already anyway!

As Debian Installer now installs Recommends by default and the desktop 
tasks installs iceweasel for all desktops, this means that all those GNOME 
packages would get installed on KDE desktop systems by default, 

As iceweasel is supposed to be desktop environment independent, I urge you 
to reconsider this change. IMO the current Recommends make iceweasel 
unsuitable for default installation.
I also feel that for packages like iceweasel integration support for 
specific desktop environments should always be optional.

Cheers,
FJP

[1]http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps
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Re: Status of g-i / showing x11 based g-i prototype at CeBIT

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 19 February 2010, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
 Short version:
 May / should we show kibi's prototype of an x11 based installer at the
 upcoming CeBIT?

I don't see why not.

BUT...

Please don't make a big deal out of it! From a user perspective there is 
nothing new as the X-based graphical installer looks and works EXACTLY the 
same as the graphical installer we allready had in Etch and Lenny.

So you could just as well just show babelbox for Lenny [1] and it would 
only be a very, very savvy user who would see any difference.

The only change is technical, not functional. It may have some benefits for 
porting to other arches, but that's about it.

And please DO NOT announce it as a new feature for Squeeze as:
1) the switch is not 100% certain yet (although very likely)
2) there's not really anything new

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/BabelBox


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Bug#498731: debootstrap: Move setup_devices to second_stage (or hurd-i386 fails)

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 19 February 2010, Michael Banck wrote:
 I will NMU debootstrap in the next days with the proposed patch if I
 don't hear anything back.

I think I'd prefer the attached patch as it makes the exception much 
clearer. Also, this patch will work for all hurd-* arches and not just 
hurd-i386 (which is more consistent with existing code).

For the fakechroot case I don't see how it would make any difference when 
the symlink is created, so I've left that in first stage for all arches.

If you could test the patch (and no one else objects) I'll make sure it 
gets included in the next upload.

Cheers,
FJP

diff --git a/packages/debootstrap/functions b/packages/debootstrap/functions
index 14f86ff..ff80a84 100644
--- a/packages/debootstrap/functions
+++ b/packages/debootstrap/functions
@@ -943,11 +943,16 @@ setup_proc_fakechroot () {
 }
 
 setup_devices () {
+	if doing_variant fakechroot; then
+		setup_devices_fakechroot
+		return 0
+	fi
+
 	case $ARCH in
+	hurd-*)
+		: ;; # delayed until second stage
 	kfreebsd-*)
 		in_target mount -t devfs devfs /dev ;;
-	hurd-*)
-		setup_devices_hurd ;;
 	*)
 		if [ -e $DEVICES_TARGZ ]; then
 			zcat $DEVICES_TARGZ | (cd $TARGET; tar -xf -)
diff --git a/packages/debootstrap/scripts/sid b/packages/debootstrap/scripts/sid
index 42c4785..e11e902 100644
--- a/packages/debootstrap/scripts/sid
+++ b/packages/debootstrap/scripts/sid
@@ -51,11 +51,7 @@ first_stage_install () {
 		cp $TARGET/usr/bin/md5sum.textutils $TARGET/usr/bin/md5sum
 	fi
 
-	if doing_variant fakechroot; then
-		setup_devices_fakechroot
-	else
-		setup_devices
-	fi
+	setup_devices
 
 	x_feign_install () {
 		local pkg=$1
@@ -76,6 +72,11 @@ Status: install ok installed  $TARGET/var/lib/dpkg/status
 }
 
 second_stage_install () {
+	case $ARCH in
+	hurd-*)
+		setup_devices_hurd ;;
+	esac
+
 	x_core_install () {
 		smallyes '' | in_target dpkg --force-depends --install $(debfor $@)
 	}


Bug#498731: debootstrap: Move setup_devices to second_stage (or hurd-i386 fails)

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
I will of course also change the call to setup_devices in 
first_stage_install() for all other scripts.

Note that the change is backwards compatible, so custom scripts that use 
the old call will not break.



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Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
Package: xulrunner
Version: 1.9.1.8-2
Severity: important
Tags: d-i
X-Debbugs-CC: task...@packages.debian.org

I was very surprised when I upgraded a KDE system to find that xulrunner 
tried to pull in all sorts of GNOME packages. It was quite a bit of work 
to unselect everything that got pulled in through those Recommends.

I'm talking about the Recommends for:
- libdbus-glib-1-2
- libgconf2-4
- libgnome2-0
- libgnomeui-0
- libgnomevfs2-0
And the deps for those packages are far from trivial.

I guess the change was introduced in 1.9.1.6-2 with:
   Merge xulrunner-1.9.1-gnome-support into xulrunner-1.9.1.

But I question if the Recommends of those packages is policy compliant as 
Recommends should only be used for packages that would be found together 
with this one in all but unusual installations [1].
And that's only true for systems running a GNOME desktop environment. For 
systems running KDE the GNOME packages are not needed and even in a lot of 
cases very much not desired.

I also question the value of the Recommends: if a user is running GNOME 
they will all be installed already anyway!

As Debian Installer now installs Recommends by default and the desktop 
tasks installs iceweasel for all desktops, this means that all those GNOME 
packages would get installed on KDE desktop systems by default, 

As iceweasel is supposed to be desktop environment independent, I urge you 
to reconsider this change. IMO the current Recommends make iceweasel 
unsuitable for default installation.
I also feel that for packages like iceweasel integration support for 
specific desktop environments should always be optional.

Cheers,
FJP

[1]http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps



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Re: Thai support in framebuffer d-i: test images available

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
Quoting Theppitak Karoonboonyanan (t...@debian.org):
 One small problem, though, is that if a line is ended with
 combining character, that combining character will not
 shown. But this is not so serious, and may be
 bterm's (or newt's) problem, not d-i's by itself.

That's certainly a bug that needs to be reported though. The problem is 
most likely in bogl-bterm.

So please file a bug report, and I'd suggest that you CC Eugeniy (although 
his original patch is from 2004, so...). Or maybe you know someone in the 
Thai community that could look into it?

Cheers,
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Re: [RFC] Draft of announcement and errata, last chance of change

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 20 February 2010, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 The Debian Installer Team[1] is pleased to announce the Debian Installer
 6.0 Alpha1. This is our first release since Lenny and brings a lot of
 new features and improvements.

Better: This first release since Lenny brings a lot of new features and 
improvements

 As most people has noticed, this release has taken more time then

s/has/will have/
s/then/than/

 usual. This was due a lot of different reasons that goes from technical

s/goes/go/

 (major changes in installer itself and other components that affect us)
 to lack of man power to manage all needed things in timely way. We

s/man power/manpower/

 really need more people to help us and contribute, please contact us if
 you're interested in help.

s/in help/in helping/

IMO you should mention here that the graphical version of the installer has 
been disabled for this release and why. That's not just an erratum.

 Bellow goes the most important new features and improvements.

s/goes//

 Help during the installation process
 
 The dialogs presented during the installation process now have the
 possibility to offer a help option for user. This is already in use in
 some dialogs during the installation and its usage will grow during next
 releases. We belive this is going to improve the user experience during
 the installation process for new users.

s/belive/believe/
s/is going to/will/
s/process for/process, especially for/


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Re: [D-I] Info needed for partman restructuring

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 06 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 I'm working on some changes in Debian Installer affecting the display of
 descriptions for block devices. For that I need to know which devices
 can occur on kfreebsd.

Thanks to Kenyon for his reply, but I had hoped for somewhat more 
comprehensive comments.

For now I've made the assumptions as listed below. Note that any devices 
that are listed as not included for BSD are still supported. They will 
only lack a more readable description of the device; instead the raw 
device name will be displayed.

Enabling readable descriptions for certain devices later on will of course 
be possible.

 IIUC these are the most common block device names for kfreebsd:
 - /dev/ad*
 - /dev/da*

Those are of course included (only for BSD, not for Linux).

 But can any of the following also occur?
 - /dev/loop*
 - /dev/mapper/*
 - /dev/md*
 - /dev/*vd[a-z]* (virtual disks)

Included for all.

 - /dev/hd*
 - /dev/sd*
 - /dev/cciss/{host,disc}*

 - /dev/mmcblk* (MMC/SD cards)
 - dev/{ide,scsi}/host* (devfs style names)

Not included for BSD.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Alpha1 images, last tests and announce on friday

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 We can't use the daily images for testing in many arches (mips, mipsel,
 powerpc, ...).

Nonsense. You're failing to distinguish between daily *D-I* builds and 
daily *CD* builds. Sure, the daily *D-I* builds for mips are failing, but 
that has nothing at all to do with the squeeze_d-i daily CD builds.

The squeeze_d-i daily CD builds are based on the version of D-I you 
uploaded, not on the failing daily D-I builds!

The daily D-I builds only affect the sid_d-i daily CD builds.

 Steve, can you do that for us?

No, there is no need. The squeeze_d-i CD builds should be fine for *all* 
arches!

Cheers,
FJP

P.S. I hope the weekly builds have now been switched back to using the D-I 
version from testing rather than daily D-I builds?


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Re: Has anybody recently done a Debian install on a playstation-3?

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, Julian Hernandez Gomez wrote:
 What is the contents of /proc/cpuinfo for a PS3?

 [cpuinfo]
 
  Also, what is the output of 'archdetect' when run in a debug shell of
  the installer?

 powerpc/ps3

Thanks. I've added support for kernel selection for ps3 in SVN for the next 
upload of base-installer.

If you want to test it before then, you can do so by manually making the 
following changes in /usr/lib/base-installer/kernel.sh before you get to 
the base-installer stage (e.g. during partitioning):
- on the line just below 'case $CPU in', add '|cell' before the ')'
- on the line just below 'case $SUBARCH in', add '|ps3' before the ')'

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#570410: partman-base: Please default to GB

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, maximilian attems wrote:
 if one partitions and neglects to add a suffix partman falls back
 to use megabytes. noticed on a goofed installed where debootstrap
 failed due to full disk. better default to gigabytes these days.

One reason to stay with MB could be that fdisk uses MB by default.

Another, more important reason is that IIRC we always display the suggested 
size with a MB suffix, which makes it logical that that's also the default 
units if no suffix is entered. If we make this change we should also 
consider changing the default display unit to GB.
Main disadvantage of that is that we will either lose precision in the 
displayed MINSIZE and MAXSIZE for the partition, or we'll have to use 
variable units for that depending on the size of the partition, or we'll 
have to display more decimals.

Also, the patch by itself is not enough. We will also need to change 
relevant templates.

- partman-partitioning/new_size
  Currently does not mention the default units (which may have contributed
  to the error). IMO that should be added.
- partman-partitioning/bad_new_size
  That template _does_ mention the default unit.
- others?
  There may also be other templates that need changing, for example for
  LV size. I did not do a full scan!

All in all, not a change to make lightly.

As an alternative to the proposed patch we could simply mention the default 
units in the partman-partitioning/new_size dialog.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#570273: debian-installer: netboot stops after loading pxelinux.cfg/default

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 570273 installation-reports
thanks

On Thursday 18 February 2010, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
 All right, I think I got it... syslinux/pxelinux.txt states, that:

Cool. I'd half forgotten about that, but it is documented.

 I would suggest to put some notes regarding this issue in the
 Installation Guide:
 a) add a huge warning note about using Debian's tftpd package in
 conjunction with Network boot, and

Something like the Note here you mean?
   http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s06.html.en
(Note that that's the Sarge version of the manual, so it's been in there 
for some time :-)

 b) strongly suggest atftp to the disadvantage of tftpd-hpa.

IIRC atftp had problems with some architectures. We mention both, but we've 
found that across the board there are the least issues with tftpd-hpa.

 Depending on what you think about using this bug to modify the
 Installation Guide I'll either clone or reassign it to syslinux.

The first seems unnecessary. If you decide not to reassign it, then please 
close the BR. Reassigning to installation-reports for now as there's no 
actual issue in the installer.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#554493: Bug#551646: installation-reports: [i386] installation failed using netboot

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
 Wanted to install a stable Debian version on a Vaio (PCG-GRT816S) with
 XPE and a netboot, I've been faced to a similar bug as #497212!

 The screen turn black!

We've had another report of possibly the same issue where the cause was 
identified. It's a known limitation of syslinux, which is documented in 
the installation guide. See the Note here:
   http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s05.html.en

What tftp server were you using? Does it work if you switch to tftpd-hpa.

Sorry for the late reply.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Alpha1 images, last tests and announce on friday

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 We can't use the daily images for testing in many arches (mips, mipsel,
 powerpc, ...).

Nonsense. You're failing to distinguish between daily *D-I* builds and 
daily *CD* builds. Sure, the daily *D-I* builds for mips are failing, but 
that has nothing at all to do with the squeeze_d-i daily CD builds.

The squeeze_d-i daily CD builds are based on the version of D-I you 
uploaded, not on the failing daily D-I builds!

The daily D-I builds only affect the sid_d-i daily CD builds.

 Steve, can you do that for us?

No, there is no need. The squeeze_d-i CD builds should be fine for *all* 
arches!

Cheers,
FJP

P.S. I hope the weekly builds have now been switched back to using the D-I 
version from testing rather than daily D-I builds?


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Re: Has anybody recently done a Debian install on a playstation-3?

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, Julian Hernandez Gomez wrote:
 What is the contents of /proc/cpuinfo for a PS3?

 [cpuinfo]
 
  Also, what is the output of 'archdetect' when run in a debug shell of
  the installer?

 powerpc/ps3

Thanks. I've added support for kernel selection for ps3 in SVN for the next 
upload of base-installer.

If you want to test it before then, you can do so by manually making the 
following changes in /usr/lib/base-installer/kernel.sh before you get to 
the base-installer stage (e.g. during partitioning):
- on the line just below 'case $CPU in', add '|cell' before the ')'
- on the line just below 'case $SUBARCH in', add '|ps3' before the ')'

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Alpha1 images, last tests and announce on friday

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, Ian Campbell wrote:
 Please can somebody confirm which multi-arch netinst images I should be
 testing to ensure I am testing this alpha1 release?

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/squeeze_d-i/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/


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Re: Switching g-i from DirectFB to X11

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 This is how I would fix the nl keyboard:
[...]
 I chose a variant without deadkeys in levels 1 and 2 (I suppose this is
 what the people want).  AltGr combinations can be used to produce
 deadkeys.

Yes, that looks correct although I'd need to try it to be sure. The name is 
sufficiently clear as well.

Thanks Anton.


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Re: Switching g-i from DirectFB to X11

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Could you discuss directly on the bugzilla, maybe?  Also, in my
 understanding it would be better to use the us layout by default as it
 seems to be the majority in NL?

Yes, the US layout definitely needs to be the default. That's why for 
console-setup I set the default for NL to the us layout some time ago.

That may have been incorrect because at the time I misunderstood the 
concept of origin (which I still find very counterintuitive).

But it should be 100% obvious to users that normally they should choose the 
US layout and the Dutch layout only if they actually have one. The Dutch 
layout should not be called something like Dutch standard, but rather 
something like Localized Dutch layout or Original Dutch layout.

The Dutch layout is increasingly rare, although some companies still use 
it, but even then in general only for their desktop systems and not for 
laptops.


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Bug#570410: partman-base: Please default to GB

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, maximilian attems wrote:
 if one partitions and neglects to add a suffix partman falls back
 to use megabytes. noticed on a goofed installed where debootstrap
 failed due to full disk. better default to gigabytes these days.

One reason to stay with MB could be that fdisk uses MB by default.

Another, more important reason is that IIRC we always display the suggested 
size with a MB suffix, which makes it logical that that's also the default 
units if no suffix is entered. If we make this change we should also 
consider changing the default display unit to GB.
Main disadvantage of that is that we will either lose precision in the 
displayed MINSIZE and MAXSIZE for the partition, or we'll have to use 
variable units for that depending on the size of the partition, or we'll 
have to display more decimals.

Also, the patch by itself is not enough. We will also need to change 
relevant templates.

- partman-partitioning/new_size
  Currently does not mention the default units (which may have contributed
  to the error). IMO that should be added.
- partman-partitioning/bad_new_size
  That template _does_ mention the default unit.
- others?
  There may also be other templates that need changing, for example for
  LV size. I did not do a full scan!

All in all, not a change to make lightly.

As an alternative to the proposed patch we could simply mention the default 
units in the partman-partitioning/new_size dialog.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#570273: debian-installer: netboot stops after loading pxelinux.cfg/default

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 570273 installation-reports
thanks

On Thursday 18 February 2010, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
 All right, I think I got it... syslinux/pxelinux.txt states, that:

Cool. I'd half forgotten about that, but it is documented.

 I would suggest to put some notes regarding this issue in the
 Installation Guide:
 a) add a huge warning note about using Debian's tftpd package in
 conjunction with Network boot, and

Something like the Note here you mean?
   http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s06.html.en
(Note that that's the Sarge version of the manual, so it's been in there 
for some time :-)

 b) strongly suggest atftp to the disadvantage of tftpd-hpa.

IIRC atftp had problems with some architectures. We mention both, but we've 
found that across the board there are the least issues with tftpd-hpa.

 Depending on what you think about using this bug to modify the
 Installation Guide I'll either clone or reassign it to syslinux.

The first seems unnecessary. If you decide not to reassign it, then please 
close the BR. Reassigning to installation-reports for now as there's no 
actual issue in the installer.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#554493: Bug#551646: installation-reports: [i386] installation failed using netboot

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
 Wanted to install a stable Debian version on a Vaio (PCG-GRT816S) with
 XPE and a netboot, I've been faced to a similar bug as #497212!

 The screen turn black!

We've had another report of possibly the same issue where the cause was 
identified. It's a known limitation of syslinux, which is documented in 
the installation guide. See the Note here:
   http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s05.html.en

What tftp server were you using? Does it work if you switch to tftpd-hpa.

Sorry for the late reply.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Alpha1 images, last tests and announce on friday

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 February 2010, Rick Thomas wrote:
 When I try to download the multiarch (i386/amd64) DVD-1 using
 bittorrent,
 I get Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker

 Am I doing something wrong?  Or is the problem on the other end?

They won't be seeded until the actual release. use jigdo instead.


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Re: [D-I] Info needed for partman restructuring

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 06 February 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 I'm working on some changes in Debian Installer affecting the display of
 descriptions for block devices. For that I need to know which devices
 can occur on kfreebsd.

Thanks to Kenyon for his reply, but I had hoped for somewhat more 
comprehensive comments.

For now I've made the assumptions as listed below. Note that any devices 
that are listed as not included for BSD are still supported. They will 
only lack a more readable description of the device; instead the raw 
device name will be displayed.

Enabling readable descriptions for certain devices later on will of course 
be possible.

 IIUC these are the most common block device names for kfreebsd:
 - /dev/ad*
 - /dev/da*

Those are of course included (only for BSD, not for Linux).

 But can any of the following also occur?
 - /dev/loop*
 - /dev/mapper/*
 - /dev/md*
 - /dev/*vd[a-z]* (virtual disks)

Included for all.

 - /dev/hd*
 - /dev/sd*
 - /dev/cciss/{host,disc}*

 - /dev/mmcblk* (MMC/SD cards)
 - dev/{ide,scsi}/host* (devfs style names)

Not included for BSD.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Switching g-i from DirectFB to X11 -- general reflections

2010-02-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 08 February 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 this is a summary of the needed steps to switch from DirectFB to X11.
 After some time hacking in the wild, I then looked into providing
 (possibly) clean patches for each package, which I've just finished.

Sorry for the delay in replying. Things kept coming up that prevented me 
sitting down and writing things up.

I'll split my reply over several mails to hopefully keep any following 
discussions more separate. This is the only reply I'll cross-post. My more 
detailed replies will be sent only to d-boot; I'll leave it up to Cyril or 
Julien to take back things to the X.Org or Gnome lists if they feel it 
needs wider discussion. I'll try to provide some background in my replies 
for some issues.

Note that anything in my replies is nothing more than my personal current 
take on the proposal and patches. As far as I'm concerned everything is 
open for discussion. I'm no expert on X.Org or libraries, so please 
correct any mistakes.

A small correction on Josselin's original blog post. Losing G-I does *not* 
mean losing support for RTL languages. Both Hebrew and Arabic are 
supported in the newt frontend, with proper RTL display.


As I've said before I'm very impressed with how the X.Org-bases graphical 
installer currently works. Cyril and all others who've contributed to that 
deserve huge thanks.


General reflections on DirectFB versus X.Org for D-I

The DirectFB and the X.Org solutions both have positive and negative 
aspects.

The DirectFB implementation has been remarkably stable and reliable for 
both Etch and Lenny and there have been no real issues with it on any x86 
hardware. But the lack of upstream support, both for directfb itself and 
its integration in cairo and gtk, is a real problem and is the direct 
cause for the current situation.
We've had excellent help from various people getting DirectFB working for 
D-I, but unfortunately the D-I team no longer has (and has never really 
had) anyone willing to fill that gap in upstream support.

So what are, from my PoV, the main characteristics of both?

DirectFB:
+ relatively simple and lightweight solution
+ requires only a few (additional) source packages to provide udebs
- has proven to be more difficult to port than initially expected (but
  that's mostly due to lack of development)
- Debian is only user of cairo and gtk integration
- lack of upstream support is constant threat

X.Org:
+ should be easier to port
+ much better upstream and Debian packaging support
+ much less risk of breakage in integration with cairo and gtk
- heavyweight and complex solution; X.Org is designed for much more
  complex tasks and environments than the installer will ever need
- in current implementation means significant size increase of initrd
- explosion of number of source packages that need to build udebs
- possibly greater risk of weird breakages after e.g. X.Org updates
  that will need to be investigated and followed up on
- effectively requires a switch to console-setup-udeb which still has
  important technical and usability issues for use in D-I

A few quick comments on some of the negative points mentioned for X.Org.
* You may have noted that I mention initrd size and not memory usage as
  issue. For me this is a major issue; I'll explain why in a later mail.
* The explosion of the number of udebs is a lesser problem now than it
  would have been for Lenny. This is due to the fact that we now have
  (basic?) support in britney for migration of udebs to testing. However,
  it *will* create a heavier workload for both Debian and D-I RM,
  especially in the final stages before a new Debian stable release.

I'm very happy that the new X.Org based implementation will continue to use 
the framebuffer. Needing to include and support all the various (kernel) 
video drivers would IMO have been a disaster.

  - Even if someone steps in to fix some bugs (I heard somebody has
    started to publish some patches recently), it might lead to a

Is that true? Are there patches and do they fix the current breakage [1]?
Who worked on it? I'd very much like to see his input.

    dependency on a very single person, who might vanish at any
    time. Going the X11 way ensures that we have a few more folks
    working on it on the long run.

Dependency on a single person is a fact of life in various FOSS 
(sub)projects. Very often a new person only steps up if there's a real 
need. And IIUC the X.Org Debian packaging team currently also has a 
manpower problem. But yes, in general it should be a lot better.


My conclusion after the past few weeks is that from a *functional* 
perspective there's no real difference between the two. From a *technical* 
perspective DirectFB is still the better solution for D-I and if there is 
someone willing to work on the issues I'd personally prefer sticking with 
DirectFB, at least for Squeeze [2]. But from a *practical* 

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