[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Madeleine Mc Cann, et al.

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jueves 27 de marzo de 2008
http://madeleine-mccann-blog.blogspot.com/
The sea and Madeleine

The web site located at www.internationalmensorganisation.info contains  
information related to paedophile millionaire men living on luxurious  
private yachts anchored at high seas, from where they order the "purchase"  
of children to become their personal property and sex slaves. According to  
the information, these paedophiles carry on their activity at high seas to  
avoid public view or detection of their deeds.

Some months ago, the Daily News of London published two different articles  
with photographs showing the exact place at a Portuguese beach location  
where an eye witness saw a child covered up with a blanket, being handled  
by two men who gave it to a couple waiting on a speedboat anchored near by  
that minutes later, took off at high speed into the sea with the child on  
board. This information was given by the eye witness to the Portuguese  
police on May 5, 2007 --two days after Madeleine Mc Cann was abducted. The  
Portuguese police ignored the information and kept focusing instead on  
accusing her parents of killing their daughter, while the Portuguese media  
orchestrated the official version in unbridled ways that demonised Gerry  
and Kate Mc Cann with great intensity. Incidentally, the same newspaper  
published recently some news about a book that former Portuguese police  
Paulo Cristovao wrote about the Madeleine Mc Cann case in Portugal. In the  
book, Cristovao categorically and sadistically declares that Madeleine  
"was dumped in the sea and her body has disappeared forever..." It is  
really interesting to note that Cristovao's declaration somehow fit in  
with different theories in which the sea highlights at conclusions related  
to the veil of evil mystery surrounding the whole case. How does Cristovao  
know so much in detail about the sea in connection with the abduction and  
disappearance of Madeleine? What does he know regarding individuals at a  
particular beach location, carrying a child wrapped in a blanket and then  
given it to others, waiting on a speedboat that took off fast towards the  
high sea? Why doesn't he explain this in his book since he knows so much  
about the sea in relation to Madeleine? This writer has stated more than  
once before, that many of the unanswered questions related to the  
abduction and mysterious disappearance of Madeleine, could very possibly  
be within the Portuguese police itself, and those responsible for the  
"investigation" that produced nothing but senseless and false criminal  
accusations against her parents.

In the case of Cristovao, it may be that with his type of criminal  
background in connection with the brutal and systematic torture inflicted  
on detainee Leonor Cipriano, as an extra judicial and savage method to  
force her into admitting guilt just to avoid more torture, and for which  
he and his associate Goncalo Amaral were both indicted and now must face a  
criminal trail, his statements inevitably arouse great suspicion leaning  
our thoughts to think that he probably knows a lot more about the  
abduction and destiny of Madeleine than what we had previously realised. I  
ask again: On what ground does he stand on to declare so categorically  
that Madeleine "was dumped in the sea and here body disappeared forever"?  
How does he know for sure that is exactly what happened to Madeleine after  
her abduction? By using common sense one can only conclude that Cristovao  
does have the answers to these questions since he even wrote a book on the  
subject. Anyone wanting to write a book must have solid knowledge of the  
subject to be written about.

According to the Daily Mail, Cristovao has publicly admitted that he  
intended his book entitled "The Star of Madeleine" to be protective of  
Portugal as place where paedophilia, has been socially accepted sub rosa  
while in parallel unofficially institutionalised for at least fifty years,  
and to infuriate the Mc Cann family. These and other admissions made by  
Cristovao regarding the contents of his book, reveal a sadist mind and  
what may be the true intention behind the number of grotesque statements,  
uttered for the purpose of creating a momentarily upheaval, while he can  
cash in by the sales of his worthless and stupid book. A fair conclusion  
to arrive at, is that Cristovao is nothing more than an opportunist,  
unscrupulous and sadist thug seeking personal gain, at the expense of  
victims who have and continue suffering as a result of criminal deeds  
committed by those with sick and warped minds whom he defends. Cristovao  
should be thoroughly investigated for his possible involvement in other  
criminal activities --besides torturing prisoners-- including

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Neo-Nazi rally was organized by FBI informant//TRUTH is ,this is how most everything is done ...fact.......

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[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Is Cheney betting on Economic Collapse?

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[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Iraqi police in Basra shed their uniforms, kept their rifles and switched sides - Times Online

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March 28, 2008

Iraqi police in Basra shed their uniforms, kept their rifles and switched  

sides

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article3635838.ece

James Hider in Baghdad



Abu Iman barely flinched when the Iraqi Government ordered his unit of  

special police to move against al-Mahdi Army fighters in Basra.



His response, while swift, was not what British and US military trainers  

who have spent the past five years schooling the Iraqi security forces  

would have hoped for. He and 15 of his comrades took off their uniforms,  

kept their government-issued rifles and went over to the other side  

without a second thought.



Such turncoats are the thread that could unravel the British Army’s policy  

in southern Iraq. The military hoped that local forces would be able to  

combat extremists and allow the Army to withdraw gradually from the  

battle-scarred and untamed oil city that has fallen under the sway of  

Islamic fundamentalists, oil smugglers and petty tribal warlords. But if  

the British taught the police to shoot straight, they failed to instil a  

sense of unwavering loyalty to the State.



“We know the outcome of the fighting in advance because we already  

defeated the British in the streets of Basra and forced them to withdraw  

to their base,” Abu Iman told The Times.

Related Links

Basra crisis leaves British withdrawal in ruins

Analysis: Britain must now fight or fail

Iraqi troops take on Shia militia in Basra clash



“If we go back a bit, everyone remembers the fight with the US in Najaf  

and the damage and defeat we inflicted on them. Do you think the Iraqi  

Army is better than those armies? We are right and the Government is  

wrong. [Nouri al] Maliki [the Iraqi Prime Minister] is driving his  

Government into the ground.”



The reason for his apparent switch of sides was simple: the 36-year-old  

was already a member of the al-Mahdi Army which, like other militias, has  

massively infiltrated the British-trained police force in the southern oil  

city. He claimed that hundreds of others from the 16,000-strong force have  

also defected to the rebels’ ranks.Abu Iman joined the new Iraqi police  

force after the invasion, joining the Mugawil, a special police unit  

infamous for brutality, kidnapping and sectarian murders.



“We already heard two weeks ago that we were going to attack the Mahdi  

Army, so we were ready,” he said. “I decided to take off my uniform and  

join my brothers and friends in the Mahdi Army. All these years, we were  

like a scream in the face of the dictator and the occupation.” He said: “I  

joined the police because I believed we have to protect Basra and save it  

with our own hands. You can see we were the first fighters to take on  

Sadd-am and his regime, the best example being the Shabaniya uprising.”



Abu Iman said that the fighting raging in Basra yesterday was intense  

because the al-Mahdi Army was operating on its own turf. He was confident  

that the Shia militia would prevail because its cause was just.



“The Iraqi Army is already defeated from within. They come to Basra with  

fear in their hearts, knowing they have to fight their brothers, the sons  

of Iraq, because of an order from Bush and his friends in the Iraq  

Government. For this reason, all of the battles are going in the Mahdi  

Army’s favour.”



Major-General Abdelaziz Moham-med Jassim, the director of operations at  

the Ministry of Defence, played down reports of defections in the Basra  

police force. “The problem of one policeman doesn’t make up for the whole  

of the force,” he said.



In recent months Major-General Abdul Jalil Khalaf, Basra’s police chief,  

has tried to shake up the force and drive out militia infiltrators, who  

have wrought havoc in the past, often turning police stations into torture  

cells in which factions settled vendettas and power struggles with murder  

and abuse. But he only narrowly escaped an assassination attempt yesterday  

when a suicide car bomb attack in Basra killed three of his policemen. A  

local tribal leader said the police directorate building was later gutted  

by fire.



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[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Why the US is collapsing

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http://falkvinge.com/2008/03/why-us-is-collapsing.html


 


the US went bankrupt in 1971, and has been covering it up through an 
accelerating whack-a-mole borrowing frenzy that is bursting right now. 






  











 



[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] The Plug-in Drug by Mike (in Tokyo) Rogers

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If you have children or plan to have children and want 
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[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] E.U. TREATIES PROCURED BY PAYOLA CORRUPTION

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European Union Treaties Procured By Corruption  
  

  
'The European Union Collective is illegal and so extensively criminalised that 
it has become all but indistinguishable from a criminal organisation. It is 
illegal because key EU treaties were procured by means of slush fund payments. 
It is corrupt because, being born in corruption, its procedures are designed to 
mask the corrupt activities of many of its officials, while it publishes false 
accounts. These findings are published today in the latest issue of 
International Currency Review, the
 London-based Journal of the International Financial Community.' 
  

  
Read  ...   
  
 

  
 
  
  
E.U. TREATIES PROCURED BY PAYOLA CORRUPTION
  
BRUSSELS ACCOUNTS ARE FRAUDULENT: E.C. CREDIT RATING AT RISK
  
Wednesday 12 October 2005 00:16
  
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By Christopher Story, Editor, International Currency Review: 
www.worldreports.org

BRITAIN CAN LEAVE THIS ILLEGAL ‘FESTERING DUSTBIN OF CORRUPTION’ TOMORROW
  


• Note: Intelligence
 on EC/EU fraud and corruption in this report was supplied by and derived from 
research by Ashley Mote MEP, Paul Buitenen MEP, Marta Andreasen, and 
Christopher Arkell. The intelligence on Edward Heath, Geoffrey Rippon, et al, 
and on the EU practice of making corrupt 'payola' payments to key negotiators 
and signatories of specified EU Collective and Accession Treaties in exchange 
for their perverted ongoing cooperation was not obtained from them, but was 
provided inter alia by several intelligence agencies and was cross-
  
 
  
checked prior to publication in 
International Currency Review and on this website. It is noteworthy that one 
month after publication of this report and of the journal, not a single 
statement contained herein had been challenged, denied, or commented upon by 
the officials, journalists and others to whom
 the journal and this report were sent. All hope this will 'go away', so that 
everyone will forget about it – but it won't. 


The European Union Collective is illegal and so extensively criminalised that 
it has become all but indistinguishable from a criminal organisation. It is 
illegal because key EU treaties were procured by means of slush fund payments. 
It is corrupt because, being born in corruption, its procedures are designed to 
mask the corrupt activities of many of its officials, while it publishes false 
accounts.
  


These findings are published today in the latest issue of 
International Currency Review, the London-based Journal of the International 
Financial
 Community.
  


The fraudulence of the European Commission's accounts necessitates urgent 
reconsideration of its Triple-A Credit Rating by the leading Rating Agencies. 
Precise evidence of the fraudulence of the EC’s accounts is presented in the 
issue.
  



International Currency Review has advised the agencies accordingly, and 
anticipates that they will carry out the necessary overdue reassessment of the 
EC’s ‘integrity’. In the event that no action is taken, given the extreme 
gravity of the evidence of institutionalised accounting fraud presented in the 
journal, the integrity of the Credit Rating Agencies themselves may be called 
into question – not least by International Currency
 Review. This may have repercussions for the International Financial Community 
generally.
  


WHY THE EUROPEAN UNION IS ILLEGAL AND ILLEGITIMATE
  

But first things first. The illegitimacy and illegality of the European Union – 
and thus of ALL its constituent structures, including the European Central Bank 
– arises from the following facts:

• The British Treaty of Accession was signed by two agents of the German 
‘Black’ Nazi intelligence continuum, DVD [•see below], based in Dachau, near 
Munich. The two signatories, both of whom received substantial financial 
rewards for their ‘cooperation’, were: Edward Heath and Geoffrey Rippon. 
Together with the late Roy Jenkins, they were recruited/compromised by the 
German Abwehr while studying at Balliol College, Oxford. 

  

• THE E.U.
 TREATIES ARE ROUTINELY PROCURED BY FRAUDULENT MEANS:
  

That is to say, official signatories and senior policymakers/operatives have 
received, and routinely receive, substantial corrupt payments, remitted to 
their secret offshore bank accounts, in exchange for their ‘cooperation’ in 
pushing through successive EU treaties. The bribery funds 

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] [ Entire Counties Disenfranchised in Texas

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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:41 AM


Subject: [ Entire Counties Disenfranchised in Texas]







Election Fraud at its extreme
This is a detailed report on the Tx. count. Check it out, I 
wonder if citizens groups did exit polls? Virginia Brooks



FOR IMMEDIATE 
RELEASE





Richard Hayes 
Phillips, Ph.D.


March 5, 2008








 
Didn’t anybody notice this?





 It is now 24 hours 
after the polls closed in Texas.  In 21 counties, with 100% of 
precincts reporting, nobody voted in the Republican presidential 
primary.  In three counties, with 100% of precincts reporting, 
nobody voted in the Democratic presidential 
primary.


 
In the 21 counties with no Republican voters, there were 87,919 
registered voters, and 36,239 ballots cast, all of them 
Democratic.


    
 In the three counties with no Democratic voters, there 
were 5,212 registered voters, and 1,865 ballots cast, all of them 
Republican.


 In 
Maverick County, all 9,661 ballots cast were Democratic.  
In Hansford County, all 1,235 ballots cast were 
Republican.








ONE-PARTY TEXAS COUNTIES, PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY, 
2008





County  RegisteredRepublican    
Democratic


    
Voters 
   
Votes 
Votes





Armstrong    
1404      
369 
0


Borden    
432 
   
0  
 139


Brooks 
   
   
6385 
   
0  
3185


Cottle 
   
   
1230 
   
0  
 471


Crockett  
   
2654 
   0   
   
1166


Culberson 
   
1959 
   
0  
 526


Dickens   
   
1410 
   
0   
612


Duval 
   
9331 
   
0  
5053


Foard 
   
1043 
   
0   
432


Hall  
   
2110 
   
0   
813


Hansford 
3101 
1235  
   0


Hardeman  
   
2969 
   
0  
1086


Hudspeth  
   
1557 
   
0       
476


Kent  
665 
   
0   
250


La 
Salle  
   
4071 
   
0  
1392


Loving    
116 
   
0  
  22


Maverick    
26224 
   
0  
9661


Reeves    
   
6337 
   
0  
2228


Roberts   
707      
261  
   0


Stonewall    
1087 
   
0  
 483


Throckmorton  
   
1175 
   
0  
 513


Upton    
2139    
0   
823


Zapata    
   
7148 
   
0  
3190


Zavala    
   
7877 
   
0  
3718





 
But don’t take my word for it.  See for 
yourself.





http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_race0.htm


http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_136_race0.htm


http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#TX





 Election officials 
in the State of Texas have some explaining to 
do.








Richard Hayes Phillips is the author of the definitive 
book on the 2004 presidential election in Ohio – “Witness to a Crime: A 
Citizens’ Audit of an American 
Election.”  For more information: [EMAIL PROTECTED]







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[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Top Iraq contractor skirts US taxes offshore - The Boston Globe

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THIS STORY HAS BEEN FORMATTED FOR EASY PRINTING
http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2008/03/06/top_iraq_contractor_skirts_us_taxes_offshore/
Top Iraq contractor skirts US taxes offshore
Shell companies in Cayman Islands allow KBR to avoid Medicare, Social  
Security deductions

By Farah Stockman, Globe Staff  |  March 6, 2008

CAYMAN ISLANDS - Kellogg Brown & Root, the nation's top Iraq war  
contractor and until last year a subsidiary of Halliburton Corp., has  
avoided paying hundreds of millions of dollars in federal Medicare and  
Social Security taxes by hiring workers through shell companies based in  
this tropical tax haven.

More than 21,000 people working for KBR in Iraq - including about 10,500  
Americans - are listed as employees of two companies that exist in a  
computer file on the fourth floor of a building on a palm-studded  
boulevard here in the Caribbean. Neither company has an office or phone  
number in the Cayman Islands.

The Defense Department has known since at least 2004 that KBR was avoiding  
taxes by declaring its American workers as employees of Cayman Islands  
shell companies, and officials said the move allowed KBR to perform the  
work more cheaply, saving Defense dollars.

But the use of the loophole results in a significantly greater loss of  
revenue to the government as a whole, particularly to the Social Security  
and Medicare trust funds. And the creation of shell companies in places  
such as the Cayman Islands to avoid taxes has long been attacked by  
members of Congress.

A Globe survey found that the practice is unusual enough that only one  
other ma jor contractor in Iraq said it does something similar.

"Failing to contribute to Social Security and Medicare thousands of times  
over isn't shielding the taxpayers they claim to protect, it's costing our  
citizens in the name of short-term corporate greed," said Senator John F.  
Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee who has  
introduced legislation to close loopholes for companies registering  
overseas.

With an estimated $16 billion in contracts, KBR is by far the largest  
contractor in Iraq, with eight times the work of its nearest competitor.

The no-bid contract it received in 2002 to rebuild Iraq's oil  
infrastructure and a multibillion-dollar contract to provide support  
services to troops have long drawn scrutiny because Vice President Dick  
Cheney was Halliburton's chief executive from 1995 until he joined the  
Republican ticket with President Bush in 2000.

The largest of the Cayman Islands shell companies - called Service  
Employers International Inc., which is now listed as having more than  
20,000 workers in Iraq, according to KBR - was created two years before  
Cheney became Halliburton's chief executive. But a second Cayman Islands  
company called Overseas Administrative Services, which now is listed as  
the employer of 1,020 mostly managerial workers in Iraq, was established  
two months after Cheney's appointment.

Cheney's office at the White House referred questions to his personal  
lawyer, who did not return phone calls.

Heather Browne, a spokeswoman for KBR, acknowledged via e-mail that the  
two Cayman Islands companies were set up "in order to allow us to reduce  
certain tax obligations of the company and its employees."

Social Security and Medicare taxes amount to 15.3 percent of each  
employees' salary, split evenly between the worker and the employer. While  
KBR's use of the shell companies saves workers their half of the taxes, it  
deprives them of future retirement benefits.

In addition, the practice enables KBR to avoid paying unemployment taxes  
in Texas, where the company is registered, amounting to between $20 and  
$559 per American employee per year, depending on the company's rate of  
turnover.

As a result, workers hired through the Cayman Island companies cannot  
receive unemployment assistance should they lose their jobs.

In interviews with more than a dozen KBR workers registered through the  
Cayman Islands companies, most said they did not realize that they had  
been employed by a foreign firm until they arrived in Iraq and were told  
by their foremen, or until they returned home and applied for unemployment  
benefits.

"They never explained it to us," said Arthur Faust, 57, who got a job  
loading convoys in Iraq in 2004 after putting his resume on KBRcareers.com  
and going to orientation with KBR officials in Houston.

But there is one circumstance in which KBR does claim the workers as its  
own: when it comes to receiving the legal immunity extended to employers  
working in Iraq.

In one previously unreported case, a group of Service Employers  
International workers accused KBR of know

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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:29 AM



Subject: [FIREBASEVOICE] VERY important: Forwarded: Numbers don't add up in

Texas...



Of course it is fraud, no other answer to this, when you read about Ron

Paul's own district in TxVirginia



(I am forwarding to all CD captains, and as many Ohio groups as possible):



Very Important on this thread: so keep the thread moving through the

groups.



_I had a Gentleman call me when I got Home from the Kent Meeting last

night from New York. _



He happens to be publishing a book with photos of all of the 2004

Election Fraud Evidence, that was supposed to be published by a company

in Kent State? He literally has the photographs of burned and otherwise

mutilated, destroyed ballots. He is very familiar with how to follow the

fraud, due to his research in the book. I would call him an investigative

Journalist, in Election Fraud.

I don't know him from Adam.

_He called me last night, from New York, upset about huge numbers of

precincts in Texas, where there were thousands of registered voters, and

ZERO votes at all, with 100 of the Precincts reporting in_.

He repeated so I understood.

He is saying there are precincts with over 2000 registered voters, and

the official count is saying NO one voted at all in that precinct after

the precinct has reported in officially!!

He said he has been studying elections now, for years. He has NEVER seen

anything like this.

He said the number of zero precincts, are especially High in the

Panhandle of Texas.

He also mentioned what Ron here is saying in this post.

Ron Paul got more votes in his precinct for Congressman, than he did for

president in the same precinct. He said, by huge amounts.

Even More important, and possibly something we can all do to help... with

this Ron Paul Fraud.



This investigative Journalist is just about to publish the research on

the fraud, and now, the company that was going to print with his book,

has suddenly pulled out, and refusing to publish.

He was supposed to be doing a book signing at Kent on the anniversary of

the shootings, that happens annually there... I guess.

He now has to self publish, which, given the situation, and the fact that

he is the only one with his "manual", puts him in a great deal of danger.

Maybe I am a little paranoid for him, because of my past experience with

revolution researchers and publishers that have suddenly gone missing, or

suddenly commit suicide, over the past ten years. But while we were on

the phone, we were getting echoes, then, three or four voice cut outs for

ten, then 20 then 30 seconds. Finally, we were disconnected, and could

not get reconnected.

I did ask him to write to me so I could foreword the Texas research he

did to all, and let you hear about the Ron Paul Information, since I know

all of you would care a lot.

I explained to him how to get a hold of the Ron Paul Texas Meetups, so

they could investigate, and move on the situation, if they chose.

I am hoping for an email from him this morning.

I will be trying to call him back all day today.

So please to the degree you can, keep an eye on this thread. If I get him

on the phone, I will let you know. He needs some help getting his

information out, and wants to investigate the Ron Paul campaign and

election fraud, on a larger scale.

Will follow up and if he does send an email, I will be sure to post

it to you all

Linda



Ron wrote:

They want us to believe that McCain won Texas in a landslide. A place

where I have never heard anyone mention his name, never seen so much as

a bumper sticker, and clearly a state that is covered by Ron Paul signs.

Just for the sake of discussion let's say it's possible. What I find

seriously hard to believe is this:



* Ron Paul got 70% of the vote in his district for Congress-37,220

votes.



* In that same district they want us to believe he only got 6,697 votes

for president.



* That equates to approximately ONLY 1 in 5 people that voted for him

for Congress supported him for President. They can't be serious. Don't

lie to me!!



Please don't take my word for it. Look at the numbers yourself.

Congressional District 14 Results -

http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_race4.htm



Presidential Race District 14 Results -

http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_race64.htm



Please pass it on. Our votes are not counted people. Restore the

Republic!

Ron Paul 2008, the Revolution has begun!



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SPIEGEL ONLINE - March 5, 2008, 04:10 PM
URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,539502,00.html
BOOM IN LOCALLY GROWN DRUGS
Cannabis Factories in Germany Growing Like Weeds

Criminals are increasingly cultivating cannabis in Germany to get around  
stricter border controls. Experts warn that locally produced weed can be  
four times as potent as conventionally grown drugs.

DPA

Hamburg police raiding a cannabis factory last month: Officers discovered  
1,200 plants in the backroom of a workshop.
The number of cannabis factories in Germany has exploded, drug experts  
warned in a report released this week.

In the study the International Narcotics Control Board, which monitors the  
implementation of the United Nations international drug conventions, said  
cannabis was increasingly being grown in Germany, Belgium and the  
Netherlands.

According to INCB, the increase in home-grown cannabis is a result of  
tighter border controls. In the past, illicit drugs were smuggled into  
Europe from the Caribbean, but less porous borders have forced those in  
the drug business to set up local cultivating operations.

"Since 2002 in Germany the illegal production of cannabis in  
professionally set up green houses has increased frighteningly," Carola  
Lander, a member of the INCB, warned during a presentation of the  
organization's 2007 report in Berlin on Tuesday.

Increased Potency

The hike in locally grown weed has had a marked effect on the strength of  
drugs discovered in Germany, as cannabis grown in green houses can be four  
times as potent as conventionally produced weed, criminal investigators in  
North Rhine-Westphalia recently said. Increased potency is the result of  
professional cultivation and gene-manipulated seeds.

Earlier this week the head of a German drugs clinic warned that cannabis  
users were getting younger and one out of twenty 18 to 24-year-old in  
Germany needed treatment for a condition arising out of their cannabis  
consumption. Professor Rainer Thomasius, of the University Hospital in  
Hamburg's Eppendorf neighborhood, said the average age children first  
tried cannabis fell from 17 years a decade ago to 15 years today. He  
added: "In big cities it stands at 14 years, with children who live in  
difficult circumstances at 12 or 13 years."

According to the INCB report there has been a rise in the use of other  
drugs as well: cocaine consumption in Europe has increased, as have  
cocaine parcels sent specifically to Germany. And the use of heroin shows  
no signs of slowing down, with experts estimating 3.3 million Europeans  
are addicted to the drug.

Almost all of the heroin flooding the European market comes from  
Afghanistan, which, despite international efforts to eradicate poppy  
production, last year produced a record drug harvest, growing 17 per cent  
more opium. It comes via three routes across Europe -- either through  
Turkey, Russia or Pakistan, using planes or ships. Though most countries  
in Western Europe are reporting fewer incidents of seizing heroin  
shipments, Spain and Germany both reporter more cases in the past year.

maw/ap/dpa



© SPIEGEL ONLINE 2008
All Rights Reserved
Reproduction only allowed with the permission of SPIEGELnet GmbH


Related SPIEGEL ONLINE links:
  Cannabis in the Cathedral: German Church Officer Arrested on Drug Dealing  
Charges (06/07/2007)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,487246,00.html
  Marijuana Malcontent: Germany's "McDope" Problem (08/17/2006)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,432078,00.html



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[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Senator Tom Harkin: Marijuana Makes People Sell Their Children

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marijuana and the child slave trade
Senator Tom Harkin: Marijuana Makes People Sell Their Children
http://wonkette.com/363265/senator-tom-harkin-marijuana-makes-people-sell-their-children

It's 2008, and that teenager drug marijuana is still raping our children.  
But why does that have to be illegal? According to The National  
Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), some person wrote  
to Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin "asking him to justify why medicinal cannabis is  
still illegal" after the American College of Physicians recommended it  
shouldn't be. It merited a hilarious reply from Harkin, which noted many  
of pot's notorious doom scenarios: "the small child whose parents are so  
addicted to illegal drugs that they sell everything including perhaps  
their own children to obtain a fix." Harkin knows the routine: smoke up,  
eat gyro, play Legend of Zelda, sell children to pirates for more pot,  
repeat. The full, horrifying letter, after the jump.
Dear :

Thank you for contacting me. I am always glad to hear from you.

I do not believe the answer in solving this country's problem of drug  
abuse and the violence associated with drug trafficking is to make drugs  
legal. I have seen too much of the ill effects of these illegal drugs on  
our nation's young people, as well as this country's law enforcement  
officers, to believe the solution is to make these drugs more readily  
available by legalizing them.

Marijuana is often the drug singled out for legalization. However,  
marijuana is not the recreational drug that many believe it to be. In a  
study completed by the Drug Abuse Warning Network, the number of marijuana  
related emergencies has nearly reached the level of cocaine related  
emergencies. As this statistic indicates, marijuana use often has fatal  
consequences.

I was deeply troubled when I learned of another recent study which found  
that nearly one-third of all eighth graders had tried marijuana. As the  
father of two daughters, it greatly disturbs me that children are exposed  
to drugs at such a young age. I am concerned that legalization of this  
drug will only increase the number of children who gain access to its  
harmful effects.

The victims of the drug war are many - the small child whose parents are  
so addicted to illegal drugs that they sell everything including perhaps  
their own children to obtain a fix; the police officer's family which must  
now learn to cope with the loss of their loved one as a result of a  
violent drug bust gone awry. These are the people I think of when I say  
that drugs pose a significant threat to the security of this nation.

In addition to helping to double federal funds for Iowa's anti-drug  
programs, I am an active supporter of the Smoother Sailing Programs in the  
Des Moines public schools. This program is designed to help children cope  
with the violence, confusion and trauma associated with the abuse of drugs  
in our society.

Legalizing drugs is equivalent to declaring surrender in the war on drugs.  
However we may differ in tactics, I am hopeful that we can work together  
to fight drugs in our communities and to make Iowa drug free.

Again, thanks for sharing your views with me. Please don't hesitate to let  
me know how you feel on any issue that concerns you.

Sincerely,

Tom Harkin

United States Senator

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[cia-drugs] Fwd: Rudolph Diesel and Hemp oil

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Sent: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 7:13 am
Subject: Rudolph Diesel and Hemp oil










Rudolph Diesel, inventor of the diesel engine, designed the diesel to
operate on Hemp oil. The Hemp tree produces four times more oxygen than a
tree, thereby solving the greenhouse effect, produces no toxic exhaust, only
Co-2 and water. The plants use carbon dioxide, Co-2 to make oxygen. IT is
estimated that less than 20 million acres of farmland would supply Americas
fuel requirements annually. It costs just pennies to refine Hemp oil into
Hemp fuel. Smog devices would no longer be needed on engines. To pump and
go, all that is necessary is a simple computer mapping change on fuel
injected cars and trucks, and a small carburetor jet change for older models
and we would be set to operate an efficient, nontoxic and inexpensive
alternate energy source. Do your own research and you will find this message
to be quite factual as well.

--

How DID True Hemp ( Cannabis sativa,
 sub-species sativa ) disappear from American
 family-hemp-farms?

 Starting in the late 1920's, forest-products,
 cotton, oil,
 petrochemical, steel, and perhaps even aluminum
 industries feared
 COMPETITION from a very innovative new technology;
 the HEMP
 DECORTICATOR.

 HEMP DECORTICATORS were just becoming
 commercially-available on True
 Hemp farms. This key technology would have allowed
 family farmers to
 create a carbohydrate economy to replace what is now
 a system dominated
 by hydrocarbons (oil, coal, and natural-gas).

 In fact, in the February, 1938 edition of Popular
 Mechanics, hemp was
 heralded as a 'New Billion Dollar Crop'.

 Exactly what caused the demise of True Hemp
 commodity farming? Well, in
 1917 George W. Schlicten pulled off a sort of
 Eli-Whitney-cotton-gin
 stunt, only way betterhe patented the HEMP
 DECORTICATOR; a
 farm-machine that mechanically seperates the fiber
 in
 the True Hemp stalk. This labor-saving device was
 just barely beginning to kick some
 centralized-polluting-corporate-butt
 in the
 late 1920's.

 Coincidentally, this is exactly when a deliberate
 smear campaign was
 launched (by print, newsreel, and radio) to
 discredit what was THEN a
 very new and mysterious word: marijuana. A negative
 image was assigned
 to that now-dreaded M-word.

 Non-drug, True Hemp simply had to be stopped (if you
 were a wealthy
 industrialist, that is)

 Although the indica sub-species may or may not
 compete with patented,
 synthetic, man-made-chemicals that can be centrally
 controlled by
 pharmaceutical corporations,
 I do believe that sativa
 sub-species-non-drug-True-Hemp commodity
 COMPETITION is what very big business actually
 stopped (by clever
 deception).

 Gary Thomas


Hemp Hurds as Paper-Making Material by Lyster Hoxie Dewey and Jason L.
Merrill 

Creator Dewey, Lyster Hoxie, 1865-1944
Creator Merrill, Jason L.
Title Hemp Hurds as Paper-Making Material
United States Department of Agriculture, Bulletin No. 404
Language English
EText-No. 17855
Release?Date 2006-02-25
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  PREMEDITATED MERGER
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North American Army created – without OK by Congress
U.S., Canada military ink deal to fight domestic emergencies
  

  Posted: February 24, 2008
1:45 pm Eastern

  
  
By Jerome R. Corsi
  

 
 WorldNetDaily   
  
In a ceremony that received virtually no attention in the American media, the 
United States and Canada signed a military agreement Feb. 14 allowing the armed 
forces from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a 
domestic civil emergency, even one that does not involve a cross-border crisis.
  
  
  
  
  

U.S. Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, commander of USNORTHCOM, signs agreement Feb. 
14, 2008, with Canadian Air Force Lt. Gen. Marc Dumais, commander of Canada 
Command (USNORTHCOM photo)





  
The
 agreement, defined as a Civil Assistance Plan, was not submitted to Congress 
for approval, nor did Congress pass any law or treaty specifically authorizing 
this military agreement to combine the operations of the armed forces of the 
United States and Canada in the event of a wide range of domestic civil 
disturbances ranging from violent storms, to health epidemics, to civil riots 
or terrorist attacks.

In Canada, the agreement paving the way for the militaries of the U.S. and 
Canada to cross each other's borders to fight domestic emergencies was not 
announced either by the Harper government or the Canadian military, prompting 
sharp protest.

"It's kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and 
contentious issues like military integration," Stuart Trew, a researcher with 
the Council of Canadians told the Canwest News Service.  "We see
 that this government is reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is 
readily available on American and Mexican websites."

The military Civil Assistance Plan can be seen as a further incremental step 
being taken toward creating a North American armed forces available to be 
deployed in domestic North American emergency situations.

The agreement was signed at U.S. Army North headquarters, Fort Sam Houston, 
Texas, by U.S. Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, commander of NORAD and U.S. 
Northern Command, or USNORTHCOM, and by Canadian Air Force Lt. Gen. Marc 
Dumais, commander of Canada Command.

"This document is a unique, bilateral military plan to align our respective 
national military plans to respond quickly to the other nation's requests for 
military support of civil authorities," Renuart said in a statement published 
on the USNORTHCOM website.

"In discussing the new bilateral Civil
 Assistance Plan established by USNORTHCOM and Canada Command, Renuart 
stressed, "Unity of effort during bilateral support for civil support 
operations such as floods, forest fires, hurricanes, earthquakes and effects of 
a terrorist attack, in order to save lives, prevent human suffering an mitigate 
damage to property, is of the highest importance, and we need to be able to 
have forces that are flexible and adaptive to support rapid decision-making in 
a collaborative environment."

Lt. Gen. Dumais seconded Renuart's sentiments, stating, "The signing of this 
plan is an important symbol of the already strong working relationship between 
Canada Command and U.S. Northern Command."

"Our commands were created by our respective governme

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Oil money is coming - and there is little the west can do about it | Business | The Guardian

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Subject: [ctrl] Oil money is coming - and there is little the west can do about 
it | Business | The Guardian










http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/mar/01/oil.globaleconomy1

Oil money is coming - and there is little the west can do about it

Energy producing countries are buying global power after decades of  
subjugation
Larry Elliott, economics editor
The Guardian, Saturday March 1 2008

Larry Summers was in full flow. Addressing a packed meeting on sovereign  
wealth funds at the Davos gathering of the World Economic Forum in  
January, the former US treasury secretary told the investment arms of  
foreign governments they should sign up to a code of conduct and be more  
transparent.

In a telling sign of the shift in the balance of global economic power,  
the sovereign wealth funds told Summers to get lost.

The Saudis accused him of double standards: hedge funds were not being  
regulated despite causing mayhem in the financial markets, so why pick on  
SWFs? The Russians - revelling in Washington's discomfort - said American  
attempts to restrict investment were "not helpful".

This week the fears resurfaced. José Manuel Barroso, president of the  
European Commission, said Brussels could not allow non-European funds "to  
be run in an opaque manner or used as an implement of geopolitical  
strategy".

Barroso's main worry is that Russia - which set up an official SWF last  
month - is planning to relaunch the cold war, only this time with oil and  
gas receipts rather than with the Red Army.

Some western governments are suspicious about the motives of sovereign  
funds that have been buying up assets in developed countries.

Washington, which has launched talks with funds in Abu Dhabi and  
Singapore, has concerns over Russia's one-time rival communist superpower  
China, which has grown weary of stockpiling US Treasury bonds and has  
started to size up physical assets in the west.

However, the EU and the US are in a weak position. They would like all  
such funds to follow the example of Norway, which has banked its North Sea  
receipts from the past 30 years in a £300bn-plus long-term investment  
fund, and the International Monetary Fund is finalising a voluntary code  
of practice.

This will be revealed in the coming weeks, but if the SWFs choose not to  
abide by it, there is little Brussels and Washington can do. The fivefold  
increase in the price of crude oil to more than $100 a barrel has provided  
a windfall for the coffers of oil and gas producing countries, while the  
nations of east Asia have amassed huge holdings as a result of export-led  
growth. Britain, as a report by PricewaterhouseCoopers pointed out this  
week, could have built up a £450bn sovereign wealth fund had it not spent  
its North Sea bonanza on politically expedient tax cuts and higher public  
spending.

Elsewhere, sovereign funds are rich, they are growing in size and they  
have been bailing out the west's tottering banks after ill-advised  
speculation saw their assets slashed in value by the American sub-prime  
mortgage crisis. The Abu Dhabi Investment Authority - the world's biggest  
SWF - has taken a $7.5bn (£3.8bn) stake in Citigroup; one of Singapore's  
funds has injected $11bn into the Swiss bank UBS, the other has invested  
$5bn into Morgan Stanley. China has ploughed $5bn into Merrill Lynch.

Train wreck

A study by one of the biggest banks, HSBC, noted: "The owners of emerging  
SWFs look unlikely just to roll over. They are enjoying the boot being on  
the other foot after an awfully long time. The train wreck that was the  
1990s, when they had to go cap-in-hand to the developed world, was bad  
enough.

"Going back further, western jibes about state capitalism would, perhaps,  
have more power had they themselves not ruled many of these countries for  
years via state-licensed companies."

Gerard Lyons, chief economist at Standard Chartered, said: "Sovereign  
wealth funds have existed since 1953 and are here to stay. Their size and  
influence is set to grow. Already valued at $2.2tn, on current trends they  
could reach $13.4tn in a decade.

"There is a serious likelihood of western governments and SWFs clashing  
over what they can buy and where. A protectionist backlash against  
strategic investments is real and threatens global trade."

The growing tension erupted in 2006 when the US prevented Dubai Ports from  
taking control of six American ports on grounds of national security.  
Lyons believes that western governments will seek to protect national  
champions and strategic sectors, but that SWFs are also likely to take a  
tough line. "Many governments will argue that it is their money and why  
should they be so transparent when other areas of the financial markets  
are not," he said.

"Western countries may need to accept the rise 

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] White House column was copied | The Journal Gazette

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Subject: [ctrl] White House column was copied | The Journal Gazette










Last updated: February 29, 2008 2:38 p.m.
Hide photos
White House column was copied
By Sylvia A. Smith
Washington editor
http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080229/NEWS/194943667/1002/LOCAL

File

Tim Goeglein

WASHINGTON - A Fort Wayne native and White House official acknowledged  
Friday he copied large portions of an essay that appeared in a Dartmouth  
College publication and presented them as his own in a News-Sentinel  
column.


"It is true," Tim Goeglein wrote to The Journal Gazette in an e-mail. "I  
am entirely at fault. It was wrong of me. There are no excuses."


He said he wrote to the author of the essay, Jeffrey Hart "to apologize,  
and do so categorically and without exception."


Nancy Nall, a former News-Sentinel columnist who writes a blog from her  
home in Michigan, detailed the nearly word-for-word similarities of eight  
paragraphs of Goeglein's 16-pargraph essay about college education, which  
appeared in the News-Sentinel on Thursday, and Hart's column, which was  
written about a decade ago.


Kerry Hubartt, editor of the News-Sentinel, said his newspaper learned of  
the apparent plagiarism Friday when Nall wrote about it.

He said the newspaper had removed Goeglein's column from its Web site and  
that editors were checking Goeglein's past columns for any other examples  
of copying.


He said when the paper's investigation is complete, readers will be  
notified.


"If we think it's warranted, we will certainly apologize to our readers,"  
Hubartt said, adding that if the investigation substantiates that Goeglein  
copied Hart's writings, "we would not use any columns (of Goeglein's) in  
the future."


Goeglein has worked in the Bush White House since 2001 as the Bush  
administration's liaison to religious organizations. He formerly worked  
for then-Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind.

Copyright © 2008 The Journal Gazette. All rights reserved. News service  
copy is used with permission. The information contained in the report may  
not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior  
written authority of The Journal Gazette or granting news service.

-- 
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Grand Forks, ND, US of A
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SPIEGEL ONLINE - February 28, 2008, 04:50 PM
URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,538412,00.html
UP, UP AND AWAY
What's Really Driving the Price of Oil?

By Beat Balzli and Frank Hornig

The price of crude oil has doubled, from $50 to $100, within months. The  
increase cannot be attributed to the fundamental data, which have hardly  
changed. And the looming recession ought to drive the price down. So why  
is oil getting more expensive?

DPA

Pumps in Oklahoma are less important to the price of oil than pension-fund  
managers.

Cushing is the kind of place where you'd expect to see a cowboy ride  
around the corner and tie his horse to a rail in front of the Buckhorn  
Bar. This sleepy town of 8,000 on the Oklahoma prairie comes complete with  
a main street that could double for a set in a Western. Its biggest  
attractions include a defunct train station and a run-down movie theater,  
where the price of admission is $1.50.

Robert Felts, a friendly old man who works for the Cushing Industrial  
Authority, likes to show visitors the historic oil pump in the middle of  
town. He tells the story of how, in 1912, a giant oil field was discovered  
nearby that placed Cushing on the map and showered it with more than two  
decades of prosperity. Up to 50 million barrels of oil bubbled out of the  
ground each year in those days. "Our refineries could hardly keep up,"  
says Felts. To solve the problem, the oil barons of the day had large  
storage tanks installed in the surrounding prairieland.

 FROM THE MAGAZINE

Find out how you can reprint this DER SPIEGEL article in your publication.

There isn't much to talk about besides oil in this small Oklahoma town.  
But reports on the situation in Cushing get global markets moving at 10:30  
every Wednesday morning. That's when US government officials publish a  
figure that reflects the amount of oil stored in the hundreds of tanks  
which now stretch for miles along the horizon.

Located at a key intersection in the North American pipeline system,  
Cushing is home to the largest oil storage facility in the United States.  
Oil traded on the New York Mercantile Exchange literally changes owners  
here in Cushing. If the tanks are full, prices sink. But if levels in  
these tanks fall, prices rise. A rule of thumb for traders: Supply and  
demand control the market.

Normally, at any rate. But in recent months the conventional wisdom has  
flip-flopped. Within a year the price of a barrel of crude has doubled,  
 from $50 to last week's high of $100. Nothing seems impossible now. Some  
analysts see prices rising to between $120 and $150, which would have  
dramatic consequences for the world economy.

Similarly spectacular price developments have only occurred four times in  
the last few decades: in 1973, when the Organization of Petroleum  
Exporting Countries (OPEC) imposed an embargo for the first time; in 1979,  
as a consequence of the Iranian revolution; a year later, when Iraq  
invaded Iran; and in 1990, when Iraq invaded Kuwait.

Which leads to one the most provocative questions being asked about the  
world economy today: Why are oil prices soaring again?

It's All Speculation

There are plenty of answers. Some hold the crisis in the Middle East and  
constantly growing demand in China responsible. Others blame producing  
countries for keeping the oil spigot half-closed.

But none of it's very convincing. "Supply and demand cannot explain the  
high prices," says Fadel Gheit of Oppenheimer & Co., a leading commodities  
analyst. Like many in his profession, Gheit believes financial investors  
are driving up prices. He's reminded of the Internet bubble around the  
turn of the millennium. According to Gheit, oil is also seeing "excessive  
speculation" at the moment.

OPEC arrives at the same conclusion. "The fundamentals are right," says  
OPEC President Mohammed al-Hamli. In fact, the cartel has expected excess  
supply on markets since early February -- a result of the American  
economic crisis.

This excess supply would normally cause the price per barrel to fall.  
Instead, dealers have now broken through the magic $100 threshold for the  
second time in only a few weeks.

The mood is festive among oil barons, who seem to be unimpressed by global  
recession fears. Exxon Mobil recently reported its profits for 2007: $40.6  
billion, a record for the world's largest energy company, and in  
international economic history. A company has never made so much money in  
a year.

Enormous amounts of money are currently changing hands in the business of  
oil contracts. With the American real estate debacle infecting ever larger  
segments of the capital markets, fro

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Name
  
Year Established
  
College or University
  
Member limit
  
Active or honorary

  
  
The NoZe Brotherhood
  
1924
  
Baylor University
  
Open
  
Active

  
  
Franklin Society
  
1824
  
Brown University
  
?
  
Active

  
  
Bishop James Madison Society
  
1812, 20th century
  
College of William and Mary
  
?
  
?

  
  
Flat Hat Club
  
1750
  
College of William and Mary
  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
Seven Society, Order of the Crown and Dagger
  
?, 1891
  
College of William and Mary
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
The Wren Society
  
1832, 20th century
  
College of William and Mary
  
?
  
Honorary

  
  
The S Society
  
?
  
College of William and Mary
  
?
  
Active

  
  
St. Anthony Hall
  
1847
  
Columbia University
  
?
  
Literary society

  
  
Sphinx Head Society
  
1890
  
Cornell University
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Quill and Dagger
  
1893
  
Cornell University
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Casque and Gauntlet
  
1887
  
Dartmouth College
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
The Sphinx
  
1886
  
Dartmouth College
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Dragon Society
  
1898
  
Dartmouth College
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Fire & Skoal
  
1975
  
Dartmouth College
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Phrygian
  
2005
  
Dartmouth College
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Abaris Society[2]
  
?
  
Dartmouth College
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Cobra Society[3]
  
?
  
Dartmouth College
 
 
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Gryphon Society[4]
  
?
  
Dartmouth College
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Raven's Claw Society
  
1896
  
Dickinson College
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
D.V.S. Senior Honor Society
  
1902
  
Emory University
  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
Burning Spear Society
  
1993
  
Florida State University
  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
ANAK Society
  
1908
  
Georgia Institute of Technology
  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
CHI
  
1900
  
Longwood University
  
open
  
Honorary

  
  
Red Dragon Society
  
18??
  
New York University
  
Senior
  
Society

  
  
Eucleian Society
  
1832
  
New York University
  
?
  
Latin society

  
  
Philomathean Society
  
1832
  
New York University
  
?
  
Latin society

  
  
St. Anthony Hall
  
?
  
Princeton University
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Phalanx
  
1912
  
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
  
Senior
 
 
Honorary

  
  
Cap and Skull
  
1900
  
Rutgers University
  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
Order of the Bull's Blood (actual existence is "highly questionable")
  
1834
  
Rutgers University
  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
The Machine
  
1914
  
University of Alabama
  
Interfraternity
 
 
Class society

  
  
Order of the Golden Bear
  
1901
  
University of California, Berkeley
  
?
  
Free speech society

  
  
Skull & Keys
  
1892
  
University of California, Berkeley
  
?
  
Men's honor society

  
  
Petal and Thorn
  
1927
  
University of Delaware
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Florida Blue Key
  
1923
  
University of Florida
  
?
  
Key society

  
  
The Senior Skull Honor Society
  
1906
  
University of Maine
  
Senior Men
  
Honorary

  
  
Iron Arrow Honor Society
  
1926
  
University of Miami

  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
Order of Angell
  
1902
  
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
  
Senior
  
Active

  
  
QEBH
  
1897
  
University of Missouri-Columbia
  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
Mystical Seven
  
known publicly since 1907
  
University of Missouri-Columbia
  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
Society of Innocents
  
1903
  
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
  
Senior
  
Honorary

  
  
Order of Gimghoul
  
1889
  
University of North Carolina
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Order of the Gorgon's Head
  
1896
  
U
niversity of North Carolina
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
The Philomathean Society
  
1813
  
University of Pennsylvania
  
50
  
Latin society

  
  
The Eyes of Texas
  
1976
  
University of Texas
  
?'
 
 
Honorary

  
  
Episkopon
  
1858
  
University of Trinity College
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
IMP Society
  
1902
  
University of Virginia
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Raven Society
  
1904
  
University of Virginia
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Seven Society
  
1905
  
University of Virginia
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Z Society
  
1892
  
University of Virginia
  
Senior
  
Class society

  
  
Malt & Barley Editors
  
1989
  
University of Wisconsin-Madison
  
Law school
  
Review editors

  

  
Iron Cross (Secret Society)
  
1902
  
University of Wisconsin-Madison
  
Junior & Senior
  
Honor

  
  
Theta Nu Epsilon
  
1870
  
Wesleyan University
  
Sophomore
  
Class society

  
  
Skull and Bone

#43646 [NEW]: incorrect error message on recursive interface implementation error

2007-12-20 Thread weyrick at roadsend dot com
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Operating system: all
PHP version:  5.2.5
PHP Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function
Bug description:  incorrect error message on recursive interface implementation 
error

Description:

A simple typo in the error message. This is originally from bug #30922,
and the regression test will have to be changed as well.


Reproduce code:
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Expected result:

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_http://bookclub.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/11/16/12635/421_ 
(http://bookclub.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/11/16/12635/421)  
Until that September 11, 2001, the two men most responsible for popularizing 
the idea of a clash of civilizations, Bernard Lewis and Samuel Huntington, 
were regarded as curiosities by mainstream national security and foreign policy 
experts. Their Ivy League credentials and access to prestigious publications 
such as Foreign Affairs, and the edgy radicalism of their theories, guaranteed 
that they would generate controversy, and they did. But few took their ideas 
seriously, except for a scattered array of neoconservatives, who, in the 1990s, 
resided on the fringe themselves. The Lewis-Huntington thesis was hit by a 
withering salvo of counterattacks from many journalists, academics, and foreign 
policy gurus.
Samuel Huntington, whose controversial book The Clash of Civilizations 
amounted to a neoconservative declaration of war, wrote that the enemy was not 
the 
Islamic right, but the religion of the Koran itself:

The underlying problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is 
Islam, a different civilization whose people are convinced of the superiority 
of 
their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power. The problem 
for Islam is not the CIA or the U.S. Department of Defense. It is the West, a 
different civilization whose people are convinced of the universality of 
their culture and believe that their superior, if declining power imposes on 
them 
the obligation to extend that culture throughout the world.

What followed from Huntington's manifesto, of course, was that the 
Judeo-Christian world and the Muslim world were locked in a state of permanent 
cultural 
war. The terrorists--such as Al Qaeda, which was still taking shape when 
Huntington's book came out--were not just a gang of fanatics with a political 
agenda, but the manifestation of a civilizational conflict. Like a modern 
oracle of 
Delphi, Huntington suggested that the gods had foreordained the collision, 
and mere humans could not stop it.  
Huntington acknowledged--without mentioning the role of the United 
States--that Islam had been a potent force against the left during the Cold 
War. "At one 
time or another during the Cold War many governments, including those of 
Algeria, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt and Israel, encouraged and supported Islamists 
as a 
counter to communist or hostile nationalist movements," he wrote. "At least 
until the Gulf War, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states provided massive funding 
to the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamist groups in a variety of countries."  
But he had a neat explanation of how the alliance between the West and the 
Islamists unraveled. "The collapse of communism removed a common enemy of the 
West 
and Islam and left each the perceived major threat to the other," he wrote.  
"In the 1990s many saw a `civilizational cold war' again developing between 
Islam and the West."  Huntington, who is not an expert on Islam, observed a 
"connection between Islam and militarism,"  and he asserted: "Islam has from 
the 
start been a religion of the sword and it glorifies military virtues."  Just to 
make sure that no one could miss his point, he quoted an unnamed U.S. army 
officer who said, "The southern tier"--i.e., the border between Europe and the 
Middle East--"is rapidly becoming NATO's new front line."  
Huntington quotes his guru on matters Islamic, Bernard Lewis, in order to 
prove that Islam presents an existential threat to the very survival of the 
West:

`For almost a thousand years,' Bernard Lewis observes, `from the first 
Moorish landing in Spain to the 

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Neofeudalism
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neofeudalism_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neofeudalism)  
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Unbalanced_scales.svg) 
The _neutrality_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view)  of this article 
is _disputed_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV_dispute) .
Please see the discussion on the _talk page_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Neofeudalism) .
Please do not remove this message until the _dispute is resolved._ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NPOVD#What_is_an_NPOV_dispute.3F) 
Neofeudalism literally means "New _Feudalism_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism) " and implies a contemporary rebirth 
of policies of _governance_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governance)  and _economy_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy)  reminiscent of those present in many 
_pre-industrial_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-industrial)  feudal societies. The concept is 
one in 
which government policies are instituted with the effect (deliberate or 
otherwise) of systematically increasing the _wealth_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth)  _gap_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_distribution)  between the 
rich and the poor while increasing the power of the rich and decreasing the 
power of the poor (also see _wealth condensation_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_condensation) ). This effect is considered 
to be similar to the 
effects of traditional feudalism. The precise meaning of the term is in 
question and 
can be employed as a _pejorative term_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorative_term)  to attack _political_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political)  
opponents. 
General 
Among the concerns of those who perceive (correctly or otherwise) an 
emergence of neofeudalism in contemporary society are class stratification, 
_globalization_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization) , _multinational 
corporations_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_corporation) , and 
"_corporatism_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism) ."_[1]_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neofeudalism#_note-0)  
Neofeudalism is part of the controversy over _income redistribution_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_redistribution)  born out of massive 
societal 
shifts during the _industrial revolution_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_revolution) . At the time the issue 
was wealth disparity between _classes_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class) , landholders, entrepreneurs, 
peasants, workers, and other economic and social groups. Neofeudalism 
encompasses 
the current debate over globalization to include entire societies, countries, 
regions ("North" versus "South," "Western" versus "non-Western"), and 
supra-national non-state actors. Unlike other _geopolitical_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geopolitics)  issues such as _environmentalism_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmentalism)  and _security_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security) 
, the charge of "neofeudalism" largely focuses on _economics_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics) . 
In a party-neutral definition of the term, the traits ascribed to a 
supposedly emerging neofeudalism would not belong to one political party alone 
but are 
emergent throughout the whole political system in all or at least several 
major parties. Under this description the common factor linking neofeudal 
characteristics could best be described as "the business interests catered to 
by a 
given party" which describes a version of neofeudalism with its origin squarely 
in the realm of business interests and the interests of business owners 
advancing agendas that benefit them perso

[CTRL] Fwd: Scorecard for Past Skirmishes between Israeli and American Interests

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SKIRMISHES BETWEEN THE ISRAEL LOBBY 
AND OTHER ELITES WHICH ZIONISTS WON
_http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=1605&lists=newslog_ 
(http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=1605&lists=newslog)  
- 1930's: Career British diplomats issued a government backed white paper 
suggesting tying Jewish immigration to Palestine to Palestinian economic 
interests, not just the Yishuv capacity.  Weissman and other British Zionists 
mobilized their forces en masse and the effort succeeded in reversing this 
policy 
quickly (well discussed in Tom Segev’s excellent book on this period). 
-1940-1945: When there was strong sentiment in the US to help European Jews 
fleeing Nazi Germany, the Zionist lobby both in Britain and the US lobbied to 
limit Jewish immigration to the west and keep the door open only for one 
destination: Palestine (see Naeim Giladi’s book “Ben Gurion Scandals” and Lenni 
Brenner’s “51 Documents: History of the Nazi-Zionist collaboration). 
- 1948: When the State Department, the Pentagon, and all major career 
diplomats in the US stood against support for the establishment of Israel, 
President 
Truman explained his decision to his cabinet (privately) very clearly as 
relating to the lobby and voting adding that “I have no Arab constituency” 
(Truman 
papers and many history books).  The US went on to twist the arms of other 
countries to support partition and the imposing of a Jewish state on Palestine. 
- June 1967: Israeli forces attacked the USS Liberty in international waters. 
 Naval demands of an investigation were immediately attacked by the lobby in 
Congress.  Senior Navy officers (and all survivors of the attack) were angry, 
but could do nothing in the face of a concerted media silencing campaign.   
Even in 2003 when new evidence emerged, little was reported on it (see 
_http://www.ussliberty.org/_ (http://www.ussliberty.org/) ) 
- 1980's: Israel uses US technology and financing to develop its own arms 
export industry competing with US arms exporters but also giving advanced 
technologies to US competitors.  Many US arms industry leaders are unhappy, and 
some 
even complain openly, and Israeli-made "Python II" missiles now arm Chinese 
warplanes and in one instance threatened US planes. (see 
_http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/p-krane.html_ 
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/p-krane.html) ). 
- May 1987: The Reagan administration notified Congress of its intention to 
sell 1600 Maverick anti-tank missiles to Saudi Arabia.  According to the NY 
Times: "Within half an hour, lobbyists from the American Israel Public 
Affairs Committee, the only group registered to lobby Congress on legislation 
affecting Israel, were on the telephone to lawmakers about the proposal. Over 
the 
next 13 days, the committee mobilized its nationwide network of supporters with 
a series of memorandums and telephone calls urging them to lobby Congress. 
Though it is unclear whether the committee, known as AIPAC, can take all the 
credit, more than 260 members of Congress co-sponsored resolutions to block the 
sale, prompting President Reagan to withdraw it." 
_http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/pg-nyt2.html_ 
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/pg-nyt2.html)  
- Early 1991: Israel asked the US for $10 billion in loan guarantees to 
settle Russian Jews. George HW Bush told Shamir that Israel could have the 
guarantees if it freezes settlement building and promises that no Russian Jews 
would 
be settled in the occupied areas. Shamir simply called the lobby leaders to 
help.  Mobilization was so swift and powerful that Bush received a barrage of 
media questions in a Press conference in 1991.. Bush utter

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November 3rd, 2007
http://www.alternet.org
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SHOCKING BUT TRUE: IMUS RETURNS TO RADIO
By Rory O'Connor, AlterNet
The "Rasputin of radio" is back, ready to beat down the
defenseless for more cheap laughs. 
http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/66814/

BUSH IS RIGHT TO WORRY IF WATERBOARDING IS DEFINED AS TORTURE
By Jane Smiley, HuffingtonPost.com
We should take the criminality of the Bush administration's
torture policy seriously, and that means making sure they
are not above the law. (Also: A waterboarding simulation
photoseries.)
http://www.alternet.org/rights/66831/

AMERICA'S ARMAGEDDONITES PUSH FOR MORE WAR
By Jon Basil Utley, Foreign Policy in Focus
Some fundamentalist evangelicals have moved from forecasting
Armageddon to actually trying to bring it about.
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/65845/

RAPTURE RESCUE 911: DISASTER RESPONSE FOR THE CHOSEN
By Naomi Klein, The Nation
With disaster services being privatized, the rich are buying
their way out of catastrophe.
http://www.alternet.org/stories/66743/

WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO BUILD A SUSTAINABLE U.S.
By Kenny Ausubel, AlterNet
We must imagine a new way of life in order to avoid the
devastating environmental crises that face humanity, argues
the visionary founder of the Bioneers conference.
http://www.alternet.org/environment/66725/

BRING ON THE RECESSION
By George Monbiot, Monbiot.com
How else will the destructive effects of growth be stopped?
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/66629/

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GIULIANI'S HEALTH CARE LIES COME BACK TO HAUNT HIM
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Supermodel joins hedge fund managers in dumping dollars

By Bo Nielsen and Adriana Brasileiro
Bloomberg News Service
Monday, November 5, 2007

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCs.keWwNdiY&refer=home

Gisele Bundchen wants to remain the world's richest model and is insisting that 
she be paid in almost any currency but the U.S. dollar. 

Like billionaire investors Warren Buffett and Bill Gross, the Brazilian 
supermodel, who Forbes magazine says earns more than anyone in her industry, is 
at the top of a growing list of rich people who have concluded that the 
currency can only depreciate because Americans, led by President George W. 
Bush, are living beyond their means. 

Even after the dollar lost 34 percent since 2001, the biggest investors and 
most accurate forecasters say it will weaken further as home sales fall and the 
Federal Reserve cuts interest rates. The dollar plummeted to its lowest ever 
last week against the euro, Canadian dollar, Chinese yuan, and the cheapest in 
26 years against the British pound. 

"We've told all our clients that if you had only one idea, one investment, it 
would be to buy an investment in a non-dollar currency," said Gross, the chief 
investment officer of Pacific Investment Management Co. in Newport Beach, 
California, and manager of the world's biggest bond fund. "That should be on 
top of the list," said Gross, whose firm is a unit of Munich-based insurer 
Allianz SE. 

The dollar fell 0.8 percent last week to $1.4505, the weakest since the euro 
started trading in 1999. It lost 2.8 percent against the Canadian dollar to 
93.51 cents and 1.8 percent versus the pound to $2.09. The Fed's U.S. Trade 
Weighted Major Currency Dollar index tumbled to 76.3, from 112.89 in January 
2004. 

...Bundchen's Demands 

BNP Paribas chief currency strategist Hans-Guenter Redeker, the most accurate 
foreign-exchange forecaster last quarter in a Bloomberg survey, said the dollar 
may drop to $1.50 per euro by year-end. The median estimate of 44 strategists 
surveyed by Bloomberg is for the currency to end the year at $1.43. Among those 
surveyed last week, the forecast ranges from $1.42 to $1.50. 

When Bundchen, 27, signed a contract in August to represent Pantene hair 
products for Cincinnati-based Procter & Gamble Co., she demanded payment in 
euros, according to Veja, Brazil's biggest weekly magazine. She'll also get 
euros for the deal she reached last October with Dolce & Gabbana SpA in Milan 
to promote the Italian designer's new fragrance, The One, Veja reported. 
Bundchen earned $33 million in the year through June, Forbes reported in July. 

"Contracts starting now are more attractive in euros because we don't know what 
will happen to the dollar," Patricia Bundchen, the model's twin sister and 
manager in Brazil, said in a telephone interview in September from Sao Paulo. 
She declined to discuss details of the arrangements last week, as did Anne 
Nelson, Bundchen's agent in New York at IMG Models. 

...Dollar Support 

Procter & Gamble's Sao Paulo-based external relations director for Brazil, 
Andre Quadra, said he couldn't give details of the Pantene contract because of 
a confidentiality agreement. 

Analysts in a Bloomberg survey expect the dollar to strengthen in coming months 
as stronger-than-forecast reports suggest U.S. consumers will keep the economy 
out of recession. Payrolls grew by 166,000 in October, double the median 
forecast of economists in a Bloomberg survey. 

The dollar will rise to $1.43 per euro this year and $1.35 by the end of 2008, 
according to the median estimate in the survey. 

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(http://bookclub.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/11/16/12635/421)  
Until that September 11, 2001, the two men most responsible for popularizing 
the idea of a clash of civilizations, Bernard Lewis and Samuel Huntington, 
were regarded as curiosities by mainstream national security and foreign policy 
experts. Their Ivy League credentials and access to prestigious publications 
such as Foreign Affairs, and the edgy radicalism of their theories, guaranteed 
that they would generate controversy, and they did. But few took their ideas 
seriously, except for a scattered array of neoconservatives, who, in the 1990s, 
resided on the fringe themselves. The Lewis-Huntington thesis was hit by a 
withering salvo of counterattacks from many journalists, academics, and foreign 
policy gurus.
Samuel Huntington, whose controversial book The Clash of Civilizations 
amounted to a neoconservative declaration of war, wrote that the enemy was not 
the 
Islamic right, but the religion of the Koran itself:

The underlying problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is 
Islam, a different civilization whose people are convinced of the superiority 
of 
their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power. The problem 
for Islam is not the CIA or the U.S. Department of Defense. It is the West, a 
different civilization whose people are convinced of the universality of 
their culture and believe that their superior, if declining power imposes on 
them 
the obligation to extend that culture throughout the world.

What followed from Huntington's manifesto, of course, was that the 
Judeo-Christian world and the Muslim world were locked in a state of permanent 
cultural 
war. The terrorists--such as Al Qaeda, which was still taking shape when 
Huntington's book came out--were not just a gang of fanatics with a political 
agenda, but the manifestation of a civilizational conflict. Like a modern 
oracle of 
Delphi, Huntington suggested that the gods had foreordained the collision, 
and mere humans could not stop it.  
Huntington acknowledged--without mentioning the role of the United 
States--that Islam had been a potent force against the left during the Cold 
War. "At one 
time or another during the Cold War many governments, including those of 
Algeria, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt and Israel, encouraged and supported Islamists 
as a 
counter to communist or hostile nationalist movements," he wrote. "At least 
until the Gulf War, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states provided massive funding 
to the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamist groups in a variety of countries."  
But he had a neat explanation of how the alliance between the West and the 
Islamists unraveled. "The collapse of communism removed a common enemy of the 
West 
and Islam and left each the perceived major threat to the other," he wrote.  
"In the 1990s many saw a `civilizational cold war' again developing between 
Islam and the West."  Huntington, who is not an expert on Islam, observed a 
"connection between Islam and militarism,"  and he asserted: "Islam has from 
the 
start been a religion of the sword and it glorifies military virtues."  Just to 
make sure that no one could miss his point, he quoted an unnamed U.S. army 
officer who said, "The southern tier"--i.e., the border between Europe and the 
Middle East--"is rapidly becoming NATO's new front line."  
Huntington quotes his guru on matters Islamic, Bernard Lewis, in order to 
prove that Islam presents an existential threat to the very survival of the 
West:

`For almost a thousand years,' Bernard Lewis observes, `from the first 
Moorish landing in Spain to the second Turkish siege of Vienna, Europe was 
under 
constant threat from Islam.' Islam is the only civilization which has put the 
survival of the West in doubt, and it has done that at least twice.
How exactly the weak, impoverished, and fragmented countries of the Middle 
East and south Asia could "put the survival of the West in doubt" was not 
explained. But it was a thesis that Bernard Lewis had been refining since the 
1950s. 
 
Lewis, a former British intelligence officer and long-time supporter of the 
Israeli right, has been a propagandist and apologist for imperialism and 
Israeli expansionism for more than half a century. He first used the term clash 
of 
civilizations in 1956, in an article that appeared in the Middle East Journal, 
in which he endeavored to explain "the present anti-Western mood of the Arab 
states." Lewis asserted then that Arab anger was not the result of the 
"Palestine problem," nor was it related to the "struggle against imperialism." 
Instead, he argued, it was "something deeper and vaster": 
What we are seeing in our time is not less than a clash between civilizations 
-- more specifically, a revolt of the world of Islam against the shattering 
impact o

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 (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2796774.ece) 
 
 
Tom Bawden in New York 
November 3, 2007, The Times (UK)
_http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2796774.ece_ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2796774.ece) 

_Meredith Whitney: The $360bn analyst_ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2793366.ece)  | 
_Citigroup fears send Wall Street 
reeling _ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article2783520.ece) | 
_Citigroup chief is about to quit amid mounting woes_ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article27
96487.ece)  | _Wall St braced for $10bn more credit crunch hits_ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2790862.ece)  
Meredith Whitney, the analyst who prompted a $369 billion (£177 billion) 
plunge in the value of US shares on Thursday by issuing a negative note on 
Citigroup, hit out at Wall Street’s culture of intimidation yesterday after 
receiving 
several death threats from investors in the bank.  
Ms Whitney, a CIBC analyst who is married to the former World Wrestling 
Entertainment champion Death Mask, prompted a near 7 per cent drop in 
Citigroup’s 
shares on Thursday, after suggesting that the bank needed to raise more than 
$30 billion to restore its capital cushion.  
She also downgraded her recommendation on Citigroup’s shares to “market 
underperform” in the note that set off America’s biggest stock market decline 
since August.  
Ms Whitney, Forbes’s second-highest ranked stock picker for 2007, told The 
Times: “People are scared to be negative, especially when a company has such a 
wide holding. Clients are not pleased with my call and I have had several death 
threats.  
“But it was the most straightforward call I’ve made in my career and I am 
surprised my peer analysts have been resistant. It’s so straightforward, it’s 
indisputable.”  
Ms Whitney, whose marriage to John Charles Layfield, the wrestler, 2½ years 
ago was detailed in The New York Times, said that she has never felt any 
pressure from the Wall Street firms themselves to be positive. But she said 
investors could be “nasty and belligerent” if they felt you had lost them a lot 
of 
money by influencing the price of their shares.  
“No one had the moxie to put in print what I put in print,” she said.  
Ms Whitney’s note came two weeks after Citigroup reported a 57 per cent drop 
in its third-quarter profits, following a $6.5 billion writedown, much of 
which related to the credit crunch.  
That writedown intensified recurring calls for Chuck Prince, Citigroup’s 
head, to stand down, although he remains at the helm of the world’s biggest 
bank.  
But in a move that will fuel speculation about his position, Mr Prince 
yesterday cancelled a speech he had been due to give tomorrow at the US Japan 
Business Conference. A Citigroup spokesman said he had cancelled the appearance 
to 
prepare for the company’s new listing on the Tokyo Stock Exchange on Monday.  
Ms Whitney, 37, met Mr Layfield in 2003 when they were panelists on Bulls & 
Bears, a programme on Fox News.  
Mr Layfield credits Ms Whitney with helping to make him more sophisticated. 
The New York Times reported him saying at their wedding: “She took a country 
boy like me and kind of refined me. I know what fork to use now at the dinner 
table, and I drink my beer from a glass.”  
 
Fed has biggest day of 
injections since Sept 2001
 
Thu Nov 1, 2007 9:43am ET
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Supermodel joins hedge fund managers in dumping dollars

By Bo Nielsen and Adriana Brasileiro
Bloomberg News Service
Monday, November 5, 2007

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCs.keWwNdiY&refer=home

Gisele Bundchen wants to remain the world's richest model and is insisting that 
she be paid in almost any currency but the U.S. dollar. 

Like billionaire investors Warren Buffett and Bill Gross, the Brazilian 
supermodel, who Forbes magazine says earns more than anyone in her industry, is 
at the top of a growing list of rich people who have concluded that the 
currency can only depreciate because Americans, led by President George W. 
Bush, are living beyond their means. 

Even after the dollar lost 34 percent since 2001, the biggest investors and 
most accurate forecasters say it will weaken further as home sales fall and the 
Federal Reserve cuts interest rates. The dollar plummeted to its lowest ever 
last week against the euro, Canadian dollar, Chinese yuan, and the cheapest in 
26 years against the British pound. 

"We've told all our clients that if you had only one idea, one investment, it 
would be to buy an investment in a non-dollar currency," said Gross, the chief 
investment officer of Pacific Investment Management Co. in Newport Beach, 
California, and manager of the world's biggest bond fund. "That should be on 
top of the list," said Gross, whose firm is a unit of Munich-based insurer 
Allianz SE. 

The dollar fell 0.8 percent last week to $1.4505, the weakest since the euro 
started trading in 1999. It lost 2.8 percent against the Canadian dollar to 
93.51 cents and 1.8 percent versus the pound to $2.09. The Fed's U.S. Trade 
Weighted Major Currency Dollar index tumbled to 76.3, from 112.89 in January 
2004. 

...Bundchen's Demands 

BNP Paribas chief currency strategist Hans-Guenter Redeker, the most accurate 
foreign-exchange forecaster last quarter in a Bloomberg survey, said the dollar 
may drop to $1.50 per euro by year-end. The median estimate of 44 strategists 
surveyed by Bloomberg is for the currency to end the year at $1.43. Among those 
surveyed last week, the forecast ranges from $1.42 to $1.50. 

When Bundchen, 27, signed a contract in August to represent Pantene hair 
products for Cincinnati-based Procter & Gamble Co., she demanded payment in 
euros, according to Veja, Brazil's biggest weekly magazine. She'll also get 
euros for the deal she reached last October with Dolce & Gabbana SpA in Milan 
to promote the Italian designer's new fragrance, The One, Veja reported. 
Bundchen earned $33 million in the year through June, Forbes reported in July. 

"Contracts starting now are more attractive in euros because we don't know what 
will happen to the dollar," Patricia Bundchen, the model's twin sister and 
manager in Brazil, said in a telephone interview in September from Sao Paulo. 
She declined to discuss details of the arrangements last week, as did Anne 
Nelson, Bundchen's agent in New York at IMG Models. 

...Dollar Support 

Procter & Gamble's Sao Paulo-based external relations director for Brazil, 
Andre Quadra, said he couldn't give details of the Pantene contract because of 
a confidentiality agreement. 

Analysts in a Bloomberg survey expect the dollar to strengthen in coming months 
as stronger-than-forecast reports suggest U.S. consumers will keep the economy 
out of recession. Payrolls grew by 166,000 in October, double the median 
forecast of economists in a Bloomberg survey. 

The dollar will rise to $1.43 per euro this year and $1.35 by the end of 2008, 
according to the median estimate in the survey. 

"So far the data has shown the U.S. economy may not be slowing to the extent 
the majority of the market had expected," said Omer Esiner, an analyst at 
currency-trading company Ruesch International Inc. in Washington who expects 
the U.S. currency to strengthen to as much as $1.38 per euro. "That could 
temper policy easing down the road and lend support for the dollar." 

...'Moving to Asia' 

Buffett, whom Forbes in April ranked as the world's third-richest person behind 
Bill Gates and Carlos Slim, told reporters in South Korea last month that he is 
bearish on the U.S. currency. 

"We still are negative on the dollar relative to most major currencies, so we 
bought stocks in companies that earn their money in other currencies," Buffett 
said Oct. 25. Buffett, 77, is chairman of Omaha, Nebraska-based Berkshire 
Hathaway Inc. 

Jim Rogers, a former partner of investor George Soros, said last month he's 
selling his house and all his possessions in the U.S. currency to buy China's 
yuan. 

"The dollar is collapsing," Rogers said last week in an interview. 'I'm moving 
to Asia because moving to Asia now is like moving to New York in 1907 or London 
in 1807. It's the wave of the future." 

...Better Returns 

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November 4, 2007
News Analysis
Straying Partner Leaves White House in a Lurch 
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and HELENE COOPER

WASHINGTON, Nov. 3 - For more than five months the United States has been 
trying to orchestrate a political transition in Pakistan that would 
manage to somehow keep Gen. Pervez Musharraf in power without making a 
mockery of President Bush´s promotion of democracy in the Muslim world.

On Saturday, those carefully laid plans fell apart spectacularly. Now the 
White House is stuck in wait-and-see mode, with limited options and a 
lack of clarity about the way forward. 

General Musharraf´s move to seize emergency powers and abandon the 
Constitution left Bush administration officials close to their nightmare: 
an American-backed military dictator who is risking civil instability in 
a country with nuclear weapons and an increasingly alienated public. 

Mr. Bush entered a delicate dance with Pakistan immediately after the 
attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, when General Musharraf pledged his cooperation 
in the fight against Al Qaeda, whose top leaders, including Osama bin 
Laden, are believed to be hiding out in the mountainous border region 
between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The United States has given Pakistan more than $10 billion in aid, mostly 
to the military, since 2001. Now, if the state of emergency drags on, the 
administration will be faced with the difficult decision of whether to 
cut off that aid and risk undermining Pakistan´s efforts to pursue 
terrorists - a move the White House believes could endanger the security 
of the United States.

Adm. William J. Fallon, the senior American military commander in the 
Middle East, told General Musharraf and his top generals in Islamabad on 
Friday that he would put that aid at risk if he seized emergency powers. 

But after the declaration on Saturday, there was no immediate action by 
the administration to accompany the tough talk, as officials monitored 
developments in Pakistan. Inside the White House the hope is that the 
state of emergency will be short-lived and that General Musharraf will 
fulfill his promise to abandon his post as Army chief of staff and hold 
elections by Jan. 15. 

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, traveling in the Middle East, called 
Mr. Musharraf´s move "highly regrettable," while her spokesman, Sean D. 
McCormack, said the United States was "deeply disturbed." 

Teresita Schaffer, an expert on Pakistan at the Center for Strategic and 
International Studies in Washington, called General Musharraf´s action "a 
big embarrassment" for the administration. But she said there was not 
much the United States could do.

"There´s going to be a lot of visible wringing of hands, and urging 
Musharraf to declare his intentions," she said. "But I don´t really see 
any alternative to continuing to work with him. They can´t just decide 
they´re going to blow off the whole country of Pakistan, because it sits 
right next to Afghanistan, where there are some 26,000 U.S. and NATO 
troops." 

The hand-wringing began even before General Musharraf imposed military 
rule. Ms. Rice said she has had several conversations with General 
Musharraf in the past few weeks - the last one two days ago - in which 
she appealed to him not to declare emergency powers. The American 
ambassador to Pakistan, Anne W. Patterson, had also been exhorting 
General Musharraf and his top deputies against making that step, Ms. Rice 
said. 

"We were clear that we did not support it," Ms. Rice said, speaking to 
reporters aboard a flight from Istanbul to Israel, where she is traveling 
for regional talks. "We were clear that we didn´t support it because it 
would take Pakistan away from the path of democratic rule."

But even as she criticized General Musharraf´s power grab, Ms. Rice 
stopped short of outright condemnation of General Musharraf himself, even 
going so far as to credit him for doing "a lot" - in the past - toward 
preparing Pakistan for what she called a "path to democratic rule."

That seeming contradiction highlights the quandary in which the Bush 
administration now finds itself. 

There has long been a deep fear within the administration, particularly 
among intelligence officials, that an imperfect General Musharraf is 
better for American interests than an unknown in a volatile country that 
is central to the administration´s fight against terrorism. In recent 
months the White House had been hoping that a power-sharing alliance 
between General Musharraf and Pakistan´s former prime minister, Benazir 
Bhutto, would help the general cling to power while putting a democratic 
face on his regime. 

Now, experts predict that the United States will be watching Pakistan 
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As a deep Iran-Contra operative Thompson is himself linked with
megalithic CIA cocaine smuggling, which is mostly what CIA trojan
horse "Iran-Contra" fake support for the Nicaraguan contras was about.
The contras did not receive half a percent of drug proceeds, or else
they would have had Stinger missiles and helicopters instead of cheap
Chinese  rifles that can't hit the side of a barn.

This about a Thompson aide smuggling a few pounds of marijunana seems
like a limited hangout in comparison of Thompson's support for CIA
cocaine smuggling, and Republican links to two recently captured CIA
cocaine flights in Mexico involving tons of cocaine, and Republican
links to 911 heroin smuggling and quid pro quo liberation of Lebanese
and Afghan-Pak poppies as payback for 911 heroin funding for Porter
Goss and Air America CIA.

-Bob

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/03/AR2007110301153_pf.html

Thompson Adviser Has Criminal Past

By Matthew Mosk
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 4, 2007; A01

Republican presidential candidate Fred D. Thompson has been
crisscrossing the country since early this summer on a private jet
lent to him by a businessman and close adviser who has a criminal
record for drug dealing.

Thompson selected the businessman, Philip Martin, to raise seed money
for his White House bid. Martin is one of four campaign co-chairmen
and the head of a group called the "first day founders." Campaign
aides jokingly began to refer to Martin, who has been friends with
Thompson since the early 1990s, as the head of "Thompson's Airforce."

Thompson's frequent flights aboard Martin's twin-engine Cessna 560
Citation have saved him more than $100,000, because until the law
changed in September, campaign-finance rules allowed presidential
candidates to reimburse private jet owners for just a fraction of the
true cost of flights.

Martin entered a plea of guilty to the sale of 11 pounds of marijuana
in 1979; the court withheld judgment pending completion of his
probation. He was charged in 1983 with violating his probation and
with multiple counts of felony bookmaking, cocaine trafficking and
conspiracy. He pleaded no contest to the cocaine-trafficking and
conspiracy charges, which stemmed from a plan to sell $30,000 worth of
the drug, and was continued on probation.

Thompson's campaign said the candidate was not aware of the multiple
criminal cases, for which Martin served no jail time. All are
described in public court records.

Karen Hanretty, Thompson's deputy communications director, said
yesterday that "Senator Thompson was unaware of the information until
this afternoon. Phil Martin has been a friend of the senator since the
mid-1990s and remains so today." Thompson communications director Todd
Harris added that Martin was not subjected to the campaign's standard
vetting process because "he's a longtime friend."

"There's not a campaign in the world that has the ability to research
every one of its supporters going back more than 20 years," Harris said.

Martin could not be reached in the past week, and lawyers for him in
Tennessee and Florida declined to comment on the criminal cases.
Hanretty said she forwarded detailed questions from The Washington
Post to Martin yesterday afternoon.

Martin, 49, is one of several top political fundraisers with a
criminal past to gain access this year to a presidential contender.
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton decided in September to return more than
$800,000 raised by Norman Hsu, one of her top bundlers, after
newspapers disclosed that he had been convicted of fraud and had an
outstanding warrant for his arrest.

Martin has been more than just a key fu

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Top US analyst hits back after death threats over Citigroup downgrade
 (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2796774.ece) 
 
 
Tom Bawden in New York 
November 3, 2007, The Times (UK)
_http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2796774.ece_ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2796774.ece) 

_Meredith Whitney: The $360bn analyst_ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2793366.ece)  | 
_Citigroup fears send Wall Street 
reeling _ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article2783520.ece) | 
_Citigroup chief is about to quit amid mounting woes_ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article27
96487.ece)  | _Wall St braced for $10bn more credit crunch hits_ 
(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article2790862.ece)  
Meredith Whitney, the analyst who prompted a $369 billion (£177 billion) 
plunge in the value of US shares on Thursday by issuing a negative note on 
Citigroup, hit out at Wall Street’s culture of intimidation yesterday after 
receiving 
several death threats from investors in the bank.  
Ms Whitney, a CIBC analyst who is married to the former World Wrestling 
Entertainment champion Death Mask, prompted a near 7 per cent drop in 
Citigroup’s 
shares on Thursday, after suggesting that the bank needed to raise more than 
$30 billion to restore its capital cushion.  
She also downgraded her recommendation on Citigroup’s shares to “market 
underperform” in the note that set off America’s biggest stock market decline 
since August.  
Ms Whitney, Forbes’s second-highest ranked stock picker for 2007, told The 
Times: “People are scared to be negative, especially when a company has such a 
wide holding. Clients are not pleased with my call and I have had several death 
threats.  
“But it was the most straightforward call I’ve made in my career and I am 
surprised my peer analysts have been resistant. It’s so straightforward, it’s 
indisputable.”  
Ms Whitney, whose marriage to John Charles Layfield, the wrestler, 2½ years 
ago was detailed in The New York Times, said that she has never felt any 
pressure from the Wall Street firms themselves to be positive. But she said 
investors could be “nasty and belligerent” if they felt you had lost them a lot 
of 
money by influencing the price of their shares.  
“No one had the moxie to put in print what I put in print,” she said.  
Ms Whitney’s note came two weeks after Citigroup reported a 57 per cent drop 
in its third-quarter profits, following a $6.5 billion writedown, much of 
which related to the credit crunch.  
That writedown intensified recurring calls for Chuck Prince, Citigroup’s 
head, to stand down, although he remains at the helm of the world’s biggest 
bank.  
But in a move that will fuel speculation about his position, Mr Prince 
yesterday cancelled a speech he had been due to give tomorrow at the US Japan 
Business Conference. A Citigroup spokesman said he had cancelled the appearance 
to 
prepare for the company’s new listing on the Tokyo Stock Exchange on Monday.  
Ms Whitney, 37, met Mr Layfield in 2003 when they were panelists on Bulls & 
Bears, a programme on Fox News.  
Mr Layfield credits Ms Whitney with helping to make him more sophisticated. 
The New York Times reported him saying at their wedding: “She took a country 
boy like me and kind of refined me. I know what fork to use now at the dinner 
table, and I drink my beer from a glass.”  
 
Fed has biggest day of 
injections since Sept 2001
 
Thu Nov 1, 2007 9:43am ET
_http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?News&storyID=2007-11-01T1
44304Z_01_N01419222_RTRIDST_0_MARKETS-FEDOPS-WRAPUP.XML_ 
(http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?News&storyID=2007-11-01T144304Z_01_N01419222_R
TRIDST_0_MARKETS-FEDOPS-WRAPUP.XML) 
NEW YORK, Nov 1 (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Reserve added a total of $41 
billion in temporary reserves to the banking system on Thursday, the biggest 
single day of such injections since September 2001. 
The Fed's infusions may reflect the central bank's efforts to bring the 
federal funds rate down nearer to its target just one day after a widely 
expected 
rate cut. 
Fed funds last traded at 4.625 percent on the open market, above the Fed's 
target rate of 4.50 percent. 
A Fed spokesman would not comment on the total size of the operations, but 
did say it was the largest single day of operations since a total of $50.35 
billion was injected on Sept. 19, 2001, following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks 
on 
the World Trade Center. 
On Thursday, the central bank conducted $8 billion of 14-day repurchases, $21 
billion of seven-day repurchases and $12 billion of overnight repurchase 
agreements. 
The total on Thursday surpassed the $38 billion the Fed injected on Aug. 10, 
wh

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Hosted by
George Noory
Guest(s)
Daniel Estulin


Tuesday, November 6
Investigative journalist Daniel Estulin has been researching the Bilderberg 
Group for more than 14 years. He'll discuss the far-reaching influence the 
group has over domestic and world affairs.



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From: Barbara Cox 
To: Angels group 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: [DiscerningAngels] More Good Things about Blackwater


  California Fires, Blackwater involved?
  By 
http://redpill8.blogspot.com/2007/10/who-is-responsible-for-california-fires.html
  Oct 28, 2007, 20:09

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Are the fires in Southern California a result of terrorism as some on Fox News 
have suggested? Fox News quoted a 2003 FBI memo that alerted law enforcement 
agencies that an al-Qaeda terrorist being held in detention had taled of 
masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the 
western United States. Of course, "al Qaeda" is always the operative word when 
Fox refers to terrorism, but what if there is someone else behind these fires, 
someone who could clearly benefit from getting rid of problematic neighbors and 
getting big government contracts from disaster relief operations?

I recently got two emails that are pretty disturbing. The first one links to 
the National Terror Alert Response Center and is sourced from ChicoER (although 
ChicoER's link is now down). It describes suspicious activity by men with 
cameras visiting various Northern California Fire Stations and running off when 
detected. see 
www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/20/suspicious-activity-at-california-fire-stations-terrorism-center-issue-watch-request

The second one is about the town of Potrero where the citizens were planning a 
major fight against Blackwater, the mercenary company that is planning to build 
a 824-acre facility in in their community. This article describes how the 
citizens of Potrero saw no firetrucks until long after their houses burned 
down, found all roads blocked, and heard no reverse 911 calls warning them to 
evacuate.

Obviously, we don't have enough information to come to any conclusions as to 
what this might mean, maybe we never will, but these are very suspicious 
stories that need some examination. 

Here's the first story:

  SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY AT CALIFORNIA FIRE STATIONS

  Posted on September 20th, 2007

  During the last week of July, fire officials in the Bay Area city of Campbell 
reported that two men had been seen videotaping routine activities at a fire 
station.

  The men were reportedly in their 20s or early 30s, and one was using a 
sophisticated news media-style camera.

  When firefighters attempted to talk with the men, they reportedly jumped into 
a waiting car and sped off.

  The incident prompted the Sacramento Regional Terrorism Threat Assessment 
Center to send out a request for Northern California fire stations to watch for 
similar incidents, and report them immediately.

  The day the request went out, Sept. 6, a second, similar incident was 
reported at a fire station in Yuba City.

  According to officials, a fire captain encountered two men parked outside the 
city's main fire station. One of the men got out and allegedly began taking 
pictures of the fire station's administration building. When the captain 
approached the men, to tell them they were in a no-parking zone, the 
photographer jumped in the vehicle and the men left.

  The man who took the photos was described as being between 30 and 40 years of 
age.

  On Sept. 12, Fresno Fire Department officials spotted two men in a vehicle 
allegedly observing activities at a fire training center. When questioned, the 
driver reportedly said they were just checking things out, then left 
immediately.

  Two days later, on Sept. 14, personnel from the Sacramento Metro Fire 
Department noticed two men taking photos of a fire station. A third man sat in 
the back of a car, and appeared to be drawing or taking notes. When fire 
officials walked toward them, the two taking pictures jumped in the vehicle and 
sped away.

  The men allegedly took pictures in front of the station, and in the rear. 
They ranged in age from late teens to about 60, officials recalled.

  Tim Johnstone, a commander with the threat assessment center in Sacramento, 
said all of the incidents are being investigated, but there is no indication 
they might be related.

  "We aren't considering this a specific threat at this time; we're just asking 
our public safety partners to be on the watch for suspicious activity," he said.

  He said the threat assessment center was formed to act as a collection point 
for homeland security intelligence, and disseminate it appropriately.

  Jay Alan, deputy director of communication for the Governor's Office of 
Homeland Security, said Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is concerned about security 
agencies sharing information, and has made it a top priority.

  Local officials said no suspicious incidents involving videotaping or photos 
have been reported at fire stations.

  Fire department pe

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from:
High Times
November 2007
 The Parts Left Out of the Good Shepherd
 Hollywood recently released the first behind-the-curtain account of the 
creation of the Central Intelligence Agency and its relationship with a secret 
society at Yale University known as Skull and Bones. HIGH TIMES asked the 
world's 
leading authority on the group to help us separate truth from fiction. 

By Kris Millegan


  I hope you are lucky enough to meet someone you trust. I regret to say. I 
haven't.
—Dr, Fredricks [Michael Gambon] in The Good Shepherd

 The Good Shepherd is Robert De Niro's effort to mine the dramatic materials 
at the very real-life nexus of secret societies, intelligence agencies and 
recorded history, apparently in an attempt to forge a Godfather-style franchise.
 
 But one is left wincing at the thought of The Good Shepherd.  Part II, given 
that the film begins and ends with the failed Bay of Pigs invasion and its 
aftermath, with the assassination of JFK and its attendant wilderness of 
conspiracy lurking just over the horizon, Will the "right people" end up 
washing the 
blood off their hands in a sequel, laying the action off on some mob operation 
gone rogue, which then had to be covered up for "the good of the country"? 
All just an honest mistake 

 But I seem to be getting ahead of myself. I have often been asked. 'What do 
you think of the movie The Good Shepherd? And the best response I could 
usually offer was: "Well. I haven't seen it yet." I'd been aware of the film 
for 
several years, and followed its progress to the silver screen, but I don't get 
out much. Then, finally, the DVD version of the film wound its way to our local 
store, and I picked up a copy to see what I could find.  My first viewing 
brought up a host of indignant furies, all riled at the historical hubris of 
the 
tale and the simple fact that most of the characters in it and even the film's 
central story of betrayal are amalgamations at best, and total confabulations 
at worst. Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that you shouldn't watch this 
movie, As a matter of fact. I recommend it highly — but with caveats, as will 
soon become clear. 

 Similar emotions were probably experienced by the relatives of Mafia members 
when The Godfather came out: contempt for its errors, but still a 
satisfaction at seeing a film with some semblance of reality, accurately 
portraying the 
Mafia's attitudes, atmosphere and activities while, at the same time, exposing 
a very tragic and very real group that plays by its own rules and affects us 
all … immensely. Being an intelligence brat. I can only speak about The Good 
Shepherd, but if you're interested in the views of Mafia whelps. I suggest 
reading Mafia Princess by Antoinette Giancana, or maybe watching some Growing 
Up 
Gotti on A&E. 

 But then, my own dad wasn't a big boss; he was just a lesser boss, someone 
who had been in some very interesting places at some very interesting times, 
which had given him an overview of the agency beyond the standard 
compartmentalization. The last overt job that my father, Lloyd S. Millegan, had 
with the CIA 
was serving as a branch chief, the head of the East Asia Research Analysis 
Office. Before that, he'd been in the Office of Strategic Services (0SS) and a 
few of the other alpha-named agencies that eventually morphed into the CIA. 
After his initial contact with the intelligence community in 1936. as an 
18-year-old exchange student at the University of Shanghai. He joined the OSS 
before 
World War II. In 1943, he entered the world of deep politics, "monitoring" Gen, 
Douglas MacArthur and his staff 

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 (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2007/868/_in2.htm)Sarkozy   

 
As if his marital challenges were not enough cause for concern, "Sarco the 
Sayan" has suddenly emerged as the most infamous accolade of French President 
Nicolas Sarkozy. The influential French daily Le Figaro last week revealed that 
the French leader once worked for -- and perhaps still does, it hinted -- 
Israeli intelligence as a sayan (Hebrew for helper), one of the thousands of 
Jewish citizens of countries other than Israel who cooperate with the katsas 
(Mossad case-officers). 
A letter dispatched to French police officials late last winter -- long 
before the presidential election but somehow kept secret -- revealed that 
Sarkozy 
was recruited as an Israeli spy. The French police is currently investigating 
documents concerning Sarkozy's alleged espionage activities on behalf of 
Mossad, which Le Figaro claims dated as far back as 1983. According to the 
author of 
the message, in 1978, Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin ordered the 
infiltration of the French ruling Gaullist Party, Union pour un Mouvement 
Populaire. Originally targeted were Patrick Balkany, Patrick Devedjian and 
Pierre 
Lellouche. In 1983, they recruited the "young and promising" Sarkozy, the 
"fourth 
man".  
Ex-Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky describes how sayanim function in By Way Of 
Deception: The Making and Unmaking of a Mossad Officer. They are usually 
reached through relatives in Israel. An Israeli with a relative in France, for 
instance, might be asked to draft a letter saying the person bearing the letter 
represents an organisation whose main goal is to help save Jewish people in the 
Diaspora. Could the French relative help in any way? They perform many 
different roles. A car sayan, for example, running a rental car agency, could 
help 
the Mossad rent a car without having to complete the usual documentation. An 
apartment sayan would find accommodation without raising suspicions, a bank 
sayan 
could fund someone in the middle of the night if needs be, a doctor sayan 
would treat a bullet wound without reporting it to the police.  
And, a political sayan ? It's rather obvious what this could mean. The 
sayanim are a pool of people at the ready who will keep quiet about their 
actions 
out of loyalty to "the cause", a non-risk recruitment system that draws from 
the 
millions of Jewish people outside Israel.  
Such talk sends chills down spines, especially Arab and Muslim ones. Indeed, 
the revelation did not go unnoticed in Arab capitals or come as much of a 
surprise. Paris can be a sunny place for shady people. When it comes to 
intelligence gathering on behalf of Israel, a question mark is immediately 
raised on the 
moral calibre of the person in question. But, how does this scandal influence 
France's foreign and domestic politics?  
It is of symbolic significance that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was on 
a state visit to France in the immediate aftermath of Le Figaro 's exposé -- 
ostensibly to discuss Iran's nuclear agenda and the Palestinian question. 
Proud and prickly France under its supposedly savvy new president hopes to play 
a 
more prominent role in the perplexing world of Middle Eastern politics. On 
Monday, Sarkozy flew to Morocco, the ancestral home of many of France's Jewry, 
soon after his Mossad connection was made public. There is no clear evidence 
that the revelation is to make Fra

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Title:  Planned American Dictatorship Has Started Creation of Their "Thought 
Police"
Subtitle: We have expected this type of law since the attacks of 9/11. While 
California was burning, the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed a 
"Thought Crime" bill which will classify Patriot and/or Christian dissidents as 
"Homegrown Terrorists"!
Since the 9/11 attacks, Cutting Edge has been warning that the Illuminati was 
planning to use the attacks as cover for implementing a severe dictatorship 
upon America. Gradually, and always operating under the guise of "saving 
American freedom", Skull & Bones President Bush has cooperated with an equally 
committed Illuminist Congress, has consistently passed laws which remove all 
our freedoms and Constitutional protections. 

If you have ever actually read Patriot Acts 1 and 2, you will realize that our 
government can arrest anyone on any pretense, without specific charges, with no 
right to a lawyer, no right for a public jury trial, and no right to appeal any 
sentence. Furthermore, the victim can be jailed at a secret location, his 
family has no right to know where he is, and he can be executed secretly and 
buried just as secretly, with the government under no requirement to notify the 
family that he was executed. 

The only reason we Americans still think we are free is that our government 
leaders have decided to not implement any of these draconian laws right away. 
Following the example set by Adolf Hitler, our leaders are gradually setting 
these dictatorial laws in place but not implementing them until the total Plan 
is ready to set in motion. When the time has come for the next terrorist attack 
and/or the next environmental disaster to occur, FEMA and/or Homeland Security 
can totally dissolve our Constitutional government, and start arresting 
dissidents, completely protected by law. Again, this is the path traveled by 
Adolf Hitler 

The Horror of H.R. 1955: "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism 
Prevention Act of 2007" 

NEWS BRIEF: "House Passes Thought Crime Prevention Bill", BY Lee Rogers, Rogue 
Government.com, 10-25-2007 

"The U.S. House of Representatives recently passed HR 1955 titled the Violent 
Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007. This bill is one 
of the most blatant attacks against the Constitution yet, and actually defines 
thought crimes as homegrown terrorism. If passed into law, it will also 
establish a commission and a Center of Excellence to study and defeat so called 
thought criminals. Unlike previous anti-terror legislation, this bill 
specifically targets the civilian population of the United States and uses 
vague language to define homegrown terrorism." 

Please note the following troubling provisions: 

1) Civilian populations of the United States -- American citizens -- are 
targeted. Starting in late, 2001, Cutting Edge warned repeatedly that the 
danger in disallowing non-citizens their normal rights under American law was 
that the day would soon come when native-born American citizens would be 
disallowed their Constitutional rights. But, because the targets following 9/11 
were Islamic terrorists, the average American on the street uttered not one 
word of protest. 

Now this bill substantiates the truth of the Cutting Edge position: American 
citizens were the ultimate targets after all! 

2) "Vague language" is always the friend of the dictator, and always proves the 
complete undoing of the dissident. 

3) American citize

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Thompson Adviser Has Criminal Past

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Thompson Adviser Has Criminal Past

By Matthew Mosk
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 4, 2007; A01


Republican presidential candidate Fred D. Thompson has been crisscrossing 
the country since early this summer on a private jet lent to him by a 
businessman and close adviser who has a criminal record for drug dealing.

Thompson selected the businessman, Philip Martin, to raise seed money for 
his White House bid. Martin is one of four campaign co-chairmen and the 
head of a group called the "first day founders." Campaign aides jokingly 
began to refer to Martin, who has been friends with Thompson since the 
early 1990s, as the head of "Thompson's Airforce."

Thompson's frequent flights aboard Martin's twin-engine Cessna 560 
Citation have saved him more than $100,000, because until the law changed 
in September, campaign-finance rules allowed presidential candidates to 
reimburse private jet owners for just a fraction of the true cost of 
flights.

Martin entered a plea of guilty to the sale of 11 pounds of marijuana in 
1979; the court withheld judgment pending completion of his probation. He 
was charged in 1983 with violating his probation and with multiple counts 
of felony bookmaking, cocaine trafficking and conspiracy. He pleaded no 
contest to the cocaine-trafficking and conspiracy charges, which stemmed 
from a plan to sell $30,000 worth of the drug, and was continued on 
probation.

Thompson's campaign said the candidate was not aware of the multiple 
criminal cases, for which Martin served no jail time. All are described 
in public court records.

Karen Hanretty, Thompson's deputy communications director, said yesterday 
that "Senator Thompson was unaware of the information until this 
afternoon. Phil Martin has been a friend of the senator since the mid-
1990s and remains so today." Thompson communications director Todd Harris 
added that Martin was not subjected to the campaign's standard vetting 
process because "he's a longtime friend."

"There's not a campaign in the world that has the ability to research 
every one of its supporters going back more than 20 years," Harris said.

Martin could not be reached in the past week, and lawyers for him in 
Tennessee and Florida declined to comment on the criminal cases. Hanretty 
said she forwarded detailed questions from The Washington Post to Martin 
yesterday afternoon.

Martin, 49, is one of several top political fundraisers with a criminal 
past to gain access this year to a presidential contender. Sen. Hillary 
Rodham Clinton decided in September to return more than $800,000 raised 
by Norman Hsu, one of her top bundlers, after newspapers disclosed that 
he had been convicted of fraud and had an outstanding warrant for his 
arrest.

Martin has been more than just a key fundraiser to Thompson, though. The 
use of his plane eases a major logistical burden stemming from the 
intense demands on presidential candidates this year for appearances in 
more than 20 states holding early primaries. It also may have saved the 
campaign at least $120,000, given that Federal Election Commission rules 
allowed Thompson to reimburse Martin for the use of the private jet at 
the commercial ticket rate until Congress changed the rules in September.

Thompson has reported reimbursing Martin $102,330, without specifying 
precisely where he flew on the plane, or when. But a comparison of flight 
records for the plane, kept by the tracking firm FlightAware, and news 
accounts of Thompson's campaign appearances this year shows that since 
June the plane has made more than two dozen stops that coincided with 
Thompson campaign events.

The destinations included a GOP fundraising luncheon in South Carolina, 
rallies in Houston and Dallas, a leadership conference in Indianapolis, 
and the Minnesota State Fair. The most recent trip was on Thursday, when 
the plane left Las Vegas with Thompson on board, bound for Washington, 
where Thompson has long been an industry lobbyist.

The Web site JetTrip.com estimates that the hourly charter rate for use 
of a plane similar to Martin's would be between $1,500 and $2,400, which 
means these flights would normally cost at least $220,000, more than 
double what Thompson paid.

Several other presidential candidates use private aircraft supplied by 
key political supporters. Former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, for 
instance, has paid $279,000 to Elliott Asset Management, a firm headed by 
campaign adviser and New York financier Paul Singer, to reimburse the 
firm for using an airplane. Democrat John Edwards has paid $628,052 to 
longtime backer Fred Baron, a Dallas lawyer, for the use

[CTRL] Fwd: [SPY NEWS] Ex-Saudi ambassador: Kingdom could have helped U.S. prevent 9/11

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/01/saudiarabia.terrorism/index.html
Ex-Saudi ambassador: Kingdom could have helped U.S. prevent 9/11

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/WORLD/meast/11/01/saudiarabia.terrorism/art.binsultan.afp.gi.jpg

* Story Highlights
* Prince Bandar bin Sultan: U.S. did not engage Saudis in serious,
credible way
* All but four of September 11 hijackers were Saudi nationals
* U.S. official: Bandar's comments should be taken "with a grain
of salt"
* Bandar was the Saudi ambassador to Washington for nearly 22 years 

 (CNN) -- Saudi Arabia could have helped the United States prevent al
Qaeda's 2001 attacks on New York and Washington if American officials
had consulted Saudi authorities in a "credible" way, the kingdom's
former ambassador said in a documentary aired Thursday.
art.binsultan.afp.gi.jpg

Prince Bandar said that Saudi intelligence was "actively following"
most of the 9/11 plotters "with precision."

The comments by Prince Bandar bin Sultan are similar to the remarks
this week by Saudi King Abdullah that suggested Britain could have
prevented the July 2005 train bombings in London if it had heeded
warnings from Riyadh.

Speaking to the Arabic satellite network Al-Arabiya on Thursday,
Bandar -- now Abdullah's national security adviser -- said Saudi
intelligence was "actively following" most of the September 11, 2001,
plotters "with precision."

"If U.S. security authorities had engaged their Saudi counterparts in
a serious and credible manner, in my opinion, we would have avoided
what happened," he said. Video Watch Bandar's comments »

Bandar was the Saudi ambassador to Washington for nearly 22 years
before he was replaced in 2005. A knowledgeable U.S. official told CNN
that Bandar's comments should be taken "with a grain of salt."

On Monday, Abdullah told the BBC that Saudi Arabia had sent warnings
to British authorities before the London subway bombings that killed
52 people -- the city's bloodiest day since World War II.

"We have sent information to Great Britain before the terrorist
attacks in Britain," Abdullah said. "But unfortunately, no action was
taken, and it may have been able to avert the tragedy."

 The September 11 attacks killed nearly 3,000 people in New York,
Washington and Pennsylvania. All but four of the suicide hijackers who
carried out the plot were Saudi nationals, and after the attacks, the
kingdom was widely criticized for having tolerated Islamic militancy.

The Saudis have called the criticism unfair, pointing out that al
Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden's original grievance was against the
country's ruling family, which invited U.S. troops into the kingdom
after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990.
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A string of attacks on Western compounds, oil installations and Saudi
institutions between 2003 and 2006 were blamed on al Qaeda's followers.

And Saudi officials say that since 9/11, they have taken steps to
ensure charitable donations do not fall into the hands of al Qaeda. 


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Rice, Hadley to be subpoenaed in Israel lobby spy case
_http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jfqsMUGt_xLUPtGJWuJBhG2dOpCA_ 
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WASHINGTON (AFP) — A judge ruled Friday that Secretary of State Condoleezza 
Rice and White House National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley can be subpoenaed 
to testify in a sensitive spying case that has focused attention on Israel's 
powerful US lobbying. 
Federal court judge T.S. Ellis ruled to allow the request by lawyers for 
Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman, former employees of the influential pro-Israel 
lobby American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), to subpoena Rice, 
Hadley 
and 13 other current and former top government officials to testify in the 
case, according to court documents. 
Rosen and Weissman, accused of passing secret US defense information to 
unauthorized people while they worked for AIPAC, hope the testimony of the 
government officials will support their defense that they were not engaged in 
spying. 
"The defendants claim that testimony from these current and former officials 
will tend to show that the overt acts reflect nothing more than the 
well-established official Washington practice of engaging in 'back-channel' 
communication," according to Friday's ruling issued in Alexandria, Virginia. 
The White House and the State Department declined to comment on the ruling, 
which rejected government arguments that the officials' testimony in the case, 
which involves key issues of national security, would be immaterial and even 
harmful to the defendants. 
"We are aware of the order authorizing the potential issuance of subpoenas in 
the Rosen and Weissman case should the case go to trial," said National 
Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe. 
"It is our understanding that no subpoenas have been issued at this time. We 
cannot comment further because this is an ongoing criminal prosecution." 
"We are not going to comment on an ongoing legal matter," said State 
Department spokesman Tom Casey. 
Rosen and Weissman and Department of Defense official Lawrence Franklin were 
charged in 2005 under the Espionage Act with conspiracy to communicate 
national defense information after they were documented in a lengthy FBI 
investigation sharing sensitive US intelligence with each other and with 
Israel. 
US officials alleged that between 1999 and 2004 Franklin passed secrets to 
Israel using AIPAC as the conduit; at the time Rosen was the lobby's policy 
director and Weissman an analyst on Iran. 
The sealed indictments, according to court documents, record 57 overt acts in 
the mishandling of the secrets, including meetings and telephone calls 
involving communicating the information with both US and foreign nationals. 
The intelligence involved terrorist activities in Central Asia, US 
intelligence and policy regarding Middle Eastern countries, and Al Qaeda, 
according to 
the court documents. 
Rosen and Weissman maintain that the secrets were not closely held by the US 
government and their disclosure did no damage to the country, the court 
documents said. 
Franklin, a former assistant to former undersecretary of defense Douglas 
Feith, pleaded guilty after a series of closed hearings and was sentenced in 
January 2006 to 12 years and seven months in prison and a 10,000 dollar fine. 
The pre-trial ruling will allow Rosen and Weissman's lawyers to proceed with 
subpoenas for Rice, Hadley, former senior State Department officials Richard 
Armitage, Marc Grossman, Matthew Bryza and William Burns, former top defense 
department officials Feith and Paul Wolfowitz, and others from US defense, 
diplomatic and

[cia-drugs] Fwd: "Les ROOTS" -- Sarkozy, Israeli Mole

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 (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2007/868/_in2.htm)Sarkozy   

 
As if his marital challenges were not enough cause for concern, "Sarco the 
Sayan" has suddenly emerged as the most infamous accolade of French President 
Nicolas Sarkozy. The influential French daily Le Figaro last week revealed that 
the French leader once worked for -- and perhaps still does, it hinted -- 
Israeli intelligence as a sayan (Hebrew for helper), one of the thousands of 
Jewish citizens of countries other than Israel who cooperate with the katsas 
(Mossad case-officers). 
A letter dispatched to French police officials late last winter -- long 
before the presidential election but somehow kept secret -- revealed that 
Sarkozy 
was recruited as an Israeli spy. The French police is currently investigating 
documents concerning Sarkozy's alleged espionage activities on behalf of 
Mossad, which Le Figaro claims dated as far back as 1983. According to the 
author of 
the message, in 1978, Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin ordered the 
infiltration of the French ruling Gaullist Party, Union pour un Mouvement 
Populaire. Originally targeted were Patrick Balkany, Patrick Devedjian and 
Pierre 
Lellouche. In 1983, they recruited the "young and promising" Sarkozy, the 
"fourth 
man".  
Ex-Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky describes how sayanim function in By Way Of 
Deception: The Making and Unmaking of a Mossad Officer. They are usually 
reached through relatives in Israel. An Israeli with a relative in France, for 
instance, might be asked to draft a letter saying the person bearing the letter 
represents an organisation whose main goal is to help save Jewish people in the 
Diaspora. Could the French relative help in any way? They perform many 
different roles. A car sayan, for example, running a rental car agency, could 
help 
the Mossad rent a car without having to complete the usual documentation. An 
apartment sayan would find accommodation without raising suspicions, a bank 
sayan 
could fund someone in the middle of the night if needs be, a doctor sayan 
would treat a bullet wound without reporting it to the police.  
And, a political sayan ? It's rather obvious what this could mean. The 
sayanim are a pool of people at the ready who will keep quiet about their 
actions 
out of loyalty to "the cause", a non-risk recruitment system that draws from 
the 
millions of Jewish people outside Israel.  
Such talk sends chills down spines, especially Arab and Muslim ones. Indeed, 
the revelation did not go unnoticed in Arab capitals or come as much of a 
surprise. Paris can be a sunny place for shady people. When it comes to 
intelligence gathering on behalf of Israel, a question mark is immediately 
raised on the 
moral calibre of the person in question. But, how does this scandal influence 
France's foreign and domestic politics?  
It is of symbolic significance that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was on 
a state visit to France in the immediate aftermath of Le Figaro 's exposé -- 
ostensibly to discuss Iran's nuclear agenda and the Palestinian question. 
Proud and prickly France under its supposedly savvy new president hopes to play 
a 
more prominent role in the perplexing world of Middle Eastern politics. On 
Monday, Sarkozy flew to Morocco, the ancestral home of many of France's Jewry, 
soon after his Mossad connection was made public. There is no clear evidence 
that the revelation is to make France any more unpopular in the Arab world than 
it already is, especially not in official circles.  
On the domestic front, however, there are many conflicting considerations. 
The Jews of France now display a touch of the vapours, in sharp contrast to the 
conceited triumphalism with which they greeted his election: "we are persuaded 
that the new president will continue eradicating anti-Israeli resistance," 
Sammy Ghozlan, president of the Jewish Community of Paris pontificated soon 
after Sarkozy's election. France is home to 500,000 Jews, mostly Sephardic Jews 
originally from North Africa and Mediterranean countries.  
Sarkozy's own [Jewish] maternal grandfather Aron Mallah, hailed from 
Salonika, Greece, and is said to have exercised considerable influence on his 
grandson. Even though raised as a Roman Catholic, "Sarkozy played a critical 
role in 
moving the French government to do what is necessary to address the ill winds 
that threaten the largest Jewish community in Western Europe," noted David 
Harris, the executive director of the American Jewish Committee. Sarkozy, after 
all, was a political product of the predominantly Jewish elite neighbourhood of 
Neuilly-sur-Seine, wher

[cia-drugs] The Parts Left Out of the Good Shepherd

2007-11-04 Thread roadsend
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from:
High Times
November 2007
 The Parts Left Out of the Good Shepherd
 Hollywood recently released the first behind-the-curtain account of the 
creation of the Central Intelligence Agency and its relationship with a secret 
society at Yale University known as Skull and Bones. HIGH TIMES asked the 
world's 
leading authority on the group to help us separate truth from fiction. 

By Kris Millegan


  I hope you are lucky enough to meet someone you trust. I regret to say. I 
haven't.
—Dr, Fredricks [Michael Gambon] in The Good Shepherd

 The Good Shepherd is Robert De Niro's effort to mine the dramatic materials 
at the very real-life nexus of secret societies, intelligence agencies and 
recorded history, apparently in an attempt to forge a Godfather-style franchise.
 
 But one is left wincing at the thought of The Good Shepherd.  Part II, given 
that the film begins and ends with the failed Bay of Pigs invasion and its 
aftermath, with the assassination of JFK and its attendant wilderness of 
conspiracy lurking just over the horizon, Will the "right people" end up 
washing the 
blood off their hands in a sequel, laying the action off on some mob operation 
gone rogue, which then had to be covered up for "the good of the country"? 
All just an honest mistake 

 But I seem to be getting ahead of myself. I have often been asked. 'What do 
you think of the movie The Good Shepherd? And the best response I could 
usually offer was: "Well. I haven't seen it yet." I'd been aware of the film 
for 
several years, and followed its progress to the silver screen, but I don't get 
out much. Then, finally, the DVD version of the film wound its way to our local 
store, and I picked up a copy to see what I could find.  My first viewing 
brought up a host of indignant furies, all riled at the historical hubris of 
the 
tale and the simple fact that most of the characters in it and even the film's 
central story of betrayal are amalgamations at best, and total confabulations 
at worst. Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that you shouldn't watch this 
movie, As a matter of fact. I recommend it highly — but with caveats, as will 
soon become clear. 

 Similar emotions were probably experienced by the relatives of Mafia members 
when The Godfather came out: contempt for its errors, but still a 
satisfaction at seeing a film with some semblance of reality, accurately 
portraying the 
Mafia's attitudes, atmosphere and activities while, at the same time, exposing 
a very tragic and very real group that plays by its own rules and affects us 
all … immensely. Being an intelligence brat. I can only speak about The Good 
Shepherd, but if you're interested in the views of Mafia whelps. I suggest 
reading Mafia Princess by Antoinette Giancana, or maybe watching some Growing 
Up 
Gotti on A&E. 

 But then, my own dad wasn't a big boss; he was just a lesser boss, someone 
who had been in some very interesting places at some very interesting times, 
which had given him an overview of the agency beyond the standard 
compartmentalization. The last overt job that my father, Lloyd S. Millegan, had 
with the CIA 
was serving as a branch chief, the head of the East Asia Research Analysis 
Office. Before that, he'd been in the Office of Strategic Services (0SS) and a 
few of the other alpha-named agencies that eventually morphed into the CIA. 
After his initial contact with the intelligence community in 1936. as an 
18-year-old exchange student at the University of Shanghai. He joined the OSS 
before 
World War II. In 1943, he entered the world of deep politics, "monitoring" Gen, 
Douglas MacArthur and his staff for the OSS and its boss, President Franklin 
Delano Roosevelt. 

 Dad had many interesting adventures in those days, including running 
guerrillas and (ironically) getting sued by the Japanese government for his 
actions 
in sequestering the Japanese-puppet Filipino government's library during the 
Battle of Manila, before the US troops arrived there in 1945. 

 My father quit the CIA in 1959. He'd already started toward the exit after a 
trip to South Vietnam in 1956, where he'd met an interesting real-life 
character named Edwin Lansdale, who could conceivably play a big part in The 
Good 
Shepard. Part II [assuming there is one], and who had recently taken control of 
the opium trade in the Golden Triangle, Dad started talking to me about all 
this in 1969, which led me to begin exploring a phenomenon that officially 
doesn't exist: CIA involvement in narco-trafficking.   

 Which leads to my biggest beef with the film: Instead of touching on the 
CIA's illicit drug-trade connections, now well documented as going back to the 
early postwar era, the story offers up the standard Hollywood-cliche mole maze, 
set against the disingenuous dialectic of the Cold War. Thus, the first major 
sin of The Good Shepherd is one of omission: no mention of the long-standing 
role that drug trafficking

[CTRL] Fwd: Welcome to Stalin's America: Cruel & Unusual Punishment for Antiwar Protestors

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Since when has it become "accepted" U.S. legal procedure
to CONTINUE to PUNISH those convicted of misdemeanors 
--AFTER they've served their sentence and been released-- 
by placing long-term (1-year to 10-year) legal restrictions on 
any exercise of freedom guaranteed by the Constitution: 
freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of movement?
 
Theoretically, then, the US government can deny you, for a lifetime, 
every freedom granted by the Bill of Rights for ... a DUI conviction. 
 
 
Banned From Canada for a Year for War Protest

By Ann Wright
_http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/103007A.shtml_ 
(http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/103007A.shtml) 
Tuesday 30 October 2007 
_http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/103007A.shtml_ 
(http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/103007A.shtml)  
The invitation said six members of the Canadian Parliament were to speak 
October 25 on Canada's Parliament Hill as members of a panel called 
"Peacebuilders 
Without Borders: Challenging the Post-9/11 Canada-US Security Agenda." I 
arrived at the Ottawa airport on the morning of October 25 expecting to be met 
by 
three members of Parliament and to hold a press conference at the airport. 
Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Codepink Women for Peace and Global Exchange, 
was also invited by the Parliamentarians, but the previous day had been 
arrested for holding up two fingers in the form of a peace sign during the US 
House 
of Representatives Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing in which Secretary of 
State Condoleezza Rice testified on Iraq, Iran and Israel-Palestinian issues. 
The October 24 committee hearing began with Codepink peace activist Desiree 
Fairooz holding up her red, paint-stained hands to Rice and shouting, "The 
blood 
of millions of Iraqis is on your hands." As Capitol Hill police took her out 
of the House hearing, Fairooz yelled over her shoulder, "War criminal, take her 
to the Hague."  
Shortly thereafter, two Codepinkers were arrested for just being in the room, 
and brutally hauled out of the hearing by Capitol police. An hour later, 
Medea and a male Codepinker were arrested for no reason. Four of the five had 
to 
stay overnight in the District of Columbia jail; Medea was one of those and 
missed the trip to Ottawa. 
I presented immigration officials our letter of invitation from the 
Parliamentarians that explained Medea and I had been denied entry to Canada at 
the 
Niagara Falls border crossing on October 3, 2007, because we had been convicted 
in 
the United States of peaceful, non-violent protests against the war on Iraq, 
including sitting on the sidewalk in front of the White House with 400 others, 
speaking out against torture during Congressional hearings, and other 
misdemeanors.  
The Canadian government knew of these offenses as they now have access to the 
FBI's National Crime Information database on which we are listed. The 
database was created to identify members of violent gangs and terrorist 
organizations, foreign fugitives, patrol violators and sex offenders -- not for 
[misdemeanors by] peace activists peacefully protesting illegal actions of 
their 
government. 
The immigration officer directed me to a secondary screening, where my 
request to call the members of Parliament waiting outside the customs' doors 
was 
denied. My suggestion that the letter of invitation from the Parliamentarians 
might be valuable in assessing the need for me to be in Canada was dismissed 
with 
the comment that members of Parliament do not have a role in determining who 
enters Canada. I suggested the laws enacted by the Parliament were the basis 
of that determination. I added that the reason I had been invited to Ottawa 

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New rift looms with Putin as Russia's 'most wanted' oligarch seeks asylum in 
Britain
By WILL STEWART and JASON LEWIS - 
Last updated at 22:08pm on 27th October 2007 
_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=4
90168&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source_ 
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 =One of 
Russia's richest and most wanted men has secretly applied for political 
asylum in Britain, fuelling the ongoing row between president Putin and Gordon 
Brown.  
Mikhail Gutseriyev, former head of massive oil and gas firm Russneft, is 
understood to be in hiding in the UK and appealing for Government protection.  
He fled Russia with a reputed £1.5 billion after a warrant was issued for his 
arrest on major fraud and tax evasion charges.  
But the 49-year-old billionaire - a bitter rival of Chelsea owner Roman 
Abramovich - claims he was hounded out of his business by the Kremlin for 
political 
reasons.  
 
In hiding: Gutseriyev claims he was hounded by the Kremlin
A former member of the Russian parliament, Mr Gutseriyev disappeared from 
Russia several weeks ago and is understood to have been smuggled to Britain 
where, Whitehall sources said, he has made an asylum application to the Home 
Office.  
The Government received the paperwork in the past two weeks and it is 
understood that it is being rushed through.  
His presence in Britain is likely to deepen the rift with Russia.  
Relations are already at a low over Moscow's decision to block the 
extradition of the prime suspect in the murder of former KGB man Alexander 
Litvinenko in 
London last year and Britain's protection of Boris Berezovsky, who has 
declared he wants to oust Mr Putin.  
The Russian interior ministry says Mr Gutseriyev was involved in "illegal 
activities committed by an organised group on a grand scale".  
He was charged by a Russian court on May 4 after a ten month investigation 
into his firm.  
Now the Moscow-based prosecutor general's office says it has applied to put 
Mr Gutseriyev's name on Interpol's international wanted list.  
Interpol is understood to be considering the case.  
Last week his Moscow lawyer Alla Yaminskaya said: "Gutseriyev is an honest 
man who follows the law, an upstanding person. All court decisions relating to 
this issue are illegal and will be appealed."  
Mr Gutseriyev apparently incurred the Kremlin's wrath by buying assets from 
Yukos, a rival oil company, before its bankruptcy last year and by refusing to 
sell his own company to Mr Putin's allies.  
Mr Putin has used Yukos's assets to build Rosneft, the state-run petroleum 
company, into the country's largest producer of crude oil.  
Yukos, the one-time market leader, was bankrupted and dismantled through a 
series of forced auctions after the state claimed more than £15billion in back 
taxes.  
Its former owner, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, once Russia's richest man, was jailed 
for fraud and tax evasion.  
He has said he was punished for opposing Mr Putin. Mr Gutseriyev has been 
labelled "the second Khodorkovsky".  
The latest twist comes after the mysterious death of Mr Gutseriyev's 
Harrow-educated son Chingiskhan, 22, in Moscow last August, after crashing his 
Ferrari.  
Forensic tests for the family are said to have concluded that his death was 
"not accidental".  
Friends say Mr Gutseriyev was unable to attend his son's funeral for fear he 
would be arrested.  
Last night the Home Office refused to confirm or deny that Mr Gutseriyev was 
in Britain and asking for asylum.  
But a spokesman added: "The Government is committed to providing protection 
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FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds 
Will Tell All Now -- and Face Charges if Necessary -- to Any Major Television 
Network That Will Let Her
 
She's Prepared to Name Names, Including Those of Two 'Well-Known' Congress 
Members Involved in Criminal Corruption
 
The 'Most Gagged Person in U.S. History' Tells The BRAD BLOG She's Now 
Exhausted All Other Channels...
 
-- By Brad Friedman 
_http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5197_ (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5197)  
Attention CBS 60 Minutes: we've got a huge scoop for you. If you want it. 
Remember the _exclusive story you aired on Sibel Edmonds_ 
(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/25/60minutes/main526954.shtml) , 
originally on October 
27th, 2002, when she was not allowed to tell you everything that she heard 
while 
serving as an FBI translator after 9/11 because she was gagged by the 
rarely-invoked "States Secret Privilege"? Well, she's still gagged. In fact, as 
the 
ACLU first described her, she's "the most gagged person in the history of the 
United States of America." 
But if you'll sit down and talk with her for an unedited interview, she has 
now told _The BRAD BLOG_ (http://www.bradblog.com/)  during an exclusive 
interview, she will now tell you everything she knows. 
Everything she hasn't been allowed to tell since 2002, about the criminal 
penetration of the FBI where she worked, and at the Departments of State and 
Defense; everything she heard concerning the corruption and illegal activities 
of 
several well-known members of Congress; everything she's aware of concerning 
information omitted and/or covered up in relation to 9/11. All of the 
information gleaned from her time listening to and translating wire-taps made 
prior to 
9/11 at the FBI. 
Here's a _handy bullet-point list_ (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2498) , as we 
ran it in March of 2006, for reference, of what she's now willing to tell you 
about. 
"People say, 'why doesn't she just come forward and spill the beans?' I have 
gone all the way to the Supreme Court and was shut down, I went to Congress 
and now consider that shut down," she told _The BRAD BLOG_ 
(http://www.bradblog.com/)  last week when we spoke with her for comments in 
relation to _our 
story_ (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5163)  on former House Speaker Dennis 
Hastert's 
original attempt to move a resolution through the U.S. House in 2000 declaring 
the 1915 massacre of 1.5 million ethnic Armenians in Turkey as "genocide." 
"Here's my promise to the American Public: If anyone of the major networks 
--- ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX --- promise to air the entire segment, 
without editing, I promise to tell them everything that I know," about 
everything 
mentioned above, she told us. 
"I can tell the American public exactly what it is, and what it is that they 
are covering up," she continued. "I'm not compromising ongoing 
investigations," Edmonds explained, because "they've all been shut down since." 
"She's Very Credible" 
She has, in fact, spent years taking every reasonable step to see that the 
information she has goes through the proper channels. The Supreme Court refused 
to hear her whistleblower lawsuit, even in light of the Department of Justice 
forcing the removal of both her and her own attorneys from the courtroom when 
they made their arguments concerning why it was that she still had to remain 
gagged under the "States Secrets Privilege." 
On the morning that the SCOTUS refused to hear her case, the _facade cracked_ 
(http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2086)  on the front of the building. In a 
ridiculously ironic metaphor which would have been rejected by any credible 
screen-writer, a chunk of marble --- just above an allegorica

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Michael Chertoff was "central in 
shaping the Bush terror strategy"
_http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4165507.stm_ 
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4165507.stm) 
 

_http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33359&Disp=0_ 
(http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33359&Disp=0) 
 
U.S. federal prosecutors suppressed critical evidence in trial of 1993 World 
Trade Center bombers. According to U.S. intelligence sources, the FBI and 
Justice Department sat on volumes of translations of Arabic telephone 
intercepts 
gathered before the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center from U.S.- and 
Sudan-based Muslim militants who once worked for U.S. intelligence in the 
mujaheddin war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.  
The critical intelligence, which demonstrated a link between the CIA and 
"Afghan Arab" muhajeddin forces, including those loyal to Osama bin Laden, was 
never introduced into the trial of the Brooklyn- and Jersey City-based based 
cell 
that included the blind Egyptian cleric Shaikh Omar Abdul Rahman, Ramzi 
Yousef, and Eyad Ismail.. The New York and New Jersey cell also included Ali 
Mohammed, a graduate of the U.S. Army's Special Forces School at Fort Bragg, 
North 
Carolina, who, while an active duty member of the Special Forces, secretly 
traveled to Afghanistan to train Bin Laden's forces and provide special 
intelligence on U.S. "soft targets" for terrorist attacks, and Wadih el-Hage, 
Osama bin 
Laden's personal secretary, who was also a resident of the United States.  
A classified French intelligence report stated that Osama bin Laden and his 
["Al Qaeda"] forces remained under the operational control of the CIA until 
1995.  _http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Darunta2.JPG_ 
(http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Darunta2.JPG) One of the men responsible 
for the [suppression of] 
intelligence evidence in the 1993 World Trade Center bombers was the main 
federal prosecutor for New Jersey in the case -- Michael Chertoff.


 

 
_http://www.deesillustration.com_ (http://www.deesillustration.com) 
 
 
CHERTOFF Means: "of the Devil" 
("Diabolical") or "Son of the Devil" 
 
_http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/2007/10/chertoff-means-of-devil-or-son-of-devi
l.html_ 
(http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/2007/10/chertoff-means-of-devil-or-son-of-devil.html)
 
 
 
 

 
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_Gg1XBoQsJ2A/RydW_twyg6I/Dv4/WV71WGSzeXA/s1600-h/Chertoff-on-Fire--33170.jpg)
 
_http://www.rense.com/general61/chert2.htm_ 
(http://www.rense.com/general61/chert2.htm) 
 
Russian translation:

"Chert" = Devil  +  "-off" = suffix translated as "of" -- traditionally, "son 
of." 
 

 
 
Wikipedia:
 
Michael Chertoff is _Jewish_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish)  and holds 
dual US-Israeli citizenship.  He and his wife Meryl Justin have two children 
and live in _Potomac, Maryland_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poto
mac,_Maryland) .  

Chertoff was born in _Elizabeth, New Jersey_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth,_New_Jersey) , the son of _Rabbi_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbi) 
 Gershon Baruch Chertoff, the former leader of the B'nai Israel Congregation 
in Elizabeth, and _El Al_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Israel_Airlines) 
 flight attendant Livia Chertoff (née Eisen).  

She was the first airline hostess for El Al Airlines and participated in 
Operation Magic Carpet, the famous airlift of Yemenite Jews to Israel.  Born in 
Poland, she lived in Palestine before coming to the U.S.  
(_http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33560_ 
(http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33560) )


His paternal grandfather, Rabbi Paul Chertoff, a noted _Ta

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_GOPerversion continues_ 
(http://newssophisticate.blogspot.com/2007/10/gop-perversion-continuescross-dressing.html)
 :
Cross Dressing WA Republican 
caught in gay sex scandal 
_http://newssophisticate.blogspot.com/2007/10/gop-perversion-continuescross-dr
essing.html_ 
(http://newssophisticate.blogspot.com/2007/10/gop-perversion-continuescross-dressing.html)
 
 
 

 
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_7wnYDTquHw8/RyjBvPOFvaI/A9E/Y0cnjCB0_fA/s1600-h/Picture+5.png)
 
Say it isn't so...Another GOP sex scandal? Yup, Washington State 
Representative Richard Curtis (R-LaCenter) was just 'busted' and like Sen. 
Craig..."he's 
not gay".

>From _KXLY_ 
(http://www.kxly.com/news/?sect_rank=1§ion_id=559&story_id=15425) ,

 
(http://bp0.blogger.com/_7wnYDTquHw8/Ryi_VfOFvYI/A80/yjLblt4NZQo/s1600-h/Picture+3.png)
 State Representative Richard Curtis says he's not gay, but 
police reports and court records indicate the Republican lawmaker from 
southwestern Washington dressed up in women's lingerie and met a Medical Lake 
man in 
a local erotic video store which led to consensual sex at a downtown hotel 
and a threat to expose Curtis' activities publicly.
.
A search warrant _(video)_ (http://www.spokanetogo.com/news-video/?mgid=8860) 
 unsealed Tuesday morning disclosed that State Representative Richard Curtis 
(R - La Center) had sex in his room at the Davenport Tower with a man 
identified as Cody Castagna, 26, of Medical Lake, who he met at the Hollywood 
Erotic 
Boutique on October 26th.

Curtis, according to a search warrant unsealed Tuesday, went to the Hollywood 
Erotic Boutique on East Sprague on October 26th at approximately 12:45 a.m.
And now for the great part,

 
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_7wnYDTquHw8/Ryi_lPOFvZI/A88/IoLlPjsYpdo/s1600-h/Picture+4.png)
 The store clerk, who had talked with Curtis, referred to 
him as "The Cross-Dresser" and said that during their conversations he 
confirmed he was gay and was married with children at home.
.
During his visit to the video store Curtis was observed wearing women's 
lingerie while receiving oral sex from an unidentified man in one of the movie 
viewing booths inside the store.
hehehe. Great family values, those GOPers have, eh. They just love the 
"compassionate conservatism".

and a few more of the 'juicy' details,

Afterward he met Cody Castagna, and they talked about getting together at 
Curtis' hotel room to have sex.

police reports confirm Curtis and Castagna had anal intercourse after which 
Curtis fell asleep. Castagna, according to court records, then allegedly took 
Curtis' wallet out of his jacket pocket and left the room.
It's 'Extortion Time' (another _video_ 
(http://www.spokanetogo.com/news-video/?mgid=8884) ),

Around 7 a.m. he called Curtis and told him he knew he was a member of the 
Washington State House of Representatives and was married, that he had taken 
pictures of Curtis with a camera on his cellphone and he offered to return the 
wallet in exchange for $1,000.
.
The attempt to get his wallet back proved unsuccessful as Castagna called 
Curtis back later on the 26th and demanded the remaining $800 from him. 
Unbeknownst to Castagna at the time Curtis had already contacted Spokane police 
and a 
detective was present with Curtis when Castagna called again.
.
During the call Castagna not only demanded $800 for the return of Curtis' 
wallet but also said the money would buy his silence, implying that without the 
money he would expose Curtis' gay lifestyle to his wife. Curtis admitted to 
police that if details of the incident became public he would have to tell his 
wife and would need to hire a divorce attorney.

Following

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This email makes me really sad.  Roy Beck is gleeful that a Democratic 
Congressman has a bill requiring employers to eVerify every potential employee 
before hiring them.   

Why is this something to be sad about?Because they (the traitors who are 
running our government) are insulting your intelligence and they are taking 
another step toward government management of the labor force.


The Problem 
The scam was relatively simple.   Allow Mexicans to flood into our country and 
pretend that we couldn't tell the difference between a hispanic American and a 
Mexican.   Cripple border patrol and ICE.  

The Solution
Step One
The eVerify system is the first step to get employers to use the Internet - 
government system to verify the legal status of an applicant.  

Step Two 
There will be crys and moans from employers that this will put them out of 
business - they will have "shortages of workers".  So what the government must 
do is to establish a "Guest Worker" program.  (demanding a solution) 

Step Three 
There will be a system (it already exists) for employers to put in their 
requests to the government for "guest workers".  The hitch will be that they 
must list the jobs for which they claim to need guest workers on the government 
job search website (this already exists too).   Listing on the government job 
search engine will eventually be a requirement for all employers just like the 
eVerify.  The reason given will be that the Labor Department needs to be able 
to assess the Labor Market demands for that particular job type.  If the 
listings show high demand over a long period of time, that would indicate that 
a shortage exists and the guest worker applications would be approved.  

At the point when all jobs must be listed, all job seekers will also register 
on the system as a matter of necessity if they hope to obtain a job.  
Otherwise, a job they might get could be given instead to an imported guest 
worker.  

For children who are in school, their information will automatically be in the 
government registry system because the computer systems for the schools and 
workforce are already integrated.   This is the cradle-to-grave national 
workforce management system designed by Marc Tucker of the NCEE as described in 
a letter to Hillary Clinton in 1992. 

End Game
At this point, the Labor Department has full control over the labor market and 
will be able to set wages by controlling the supply of labor in the market.   
They will also have the control mechanism for people by allowing or inhibiting 
their access to gainful employment.  


This is a classic Hegelian Dialectic which is being used to "transform" the 
United States to a communist system to "compete" with the COMMUNIST Chinese 
slave labor system.  


I hope to God you're smarter than they think you are.  



Roy Beck NumbersUSA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:25:38 -0500
  From: Roy Beck NumbersUSA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: New Dem bill removes job magnet for illegals

   
 From:   Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA  
  Date:   Monday 29oct07 3 a.m. EDT  

   
Let's get Heath Shuler's new Democratic enforcement bill to a vote in 
the U.S. House  
  
DEAR OPPONENTS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION 

 AND SUPPORTERS OF ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT & SELF-DEPORTATION,

Hard on the heels of your tremendous defeat of the DREAM Act amnesty in 
the Senate last week, we have our best chance yet in this Democratic-controlled 
Congress for improving enforcement against illegal immig

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http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/22/4727/

Published on Monday, October 22, 2007 by CommonDreams.org 
Mother Teresa, John Paul II, and the Fast-Track Saints
by Michael Parenti

During his 26-year papacy, John Paul II elevated 483 individuals to 
sainthood, more saints than all previous popes combined, it is 
reported. One personage he beatified but did not live long enough to 
canonize was Mother Teresa, the Roman Catholic nun of Albanian 
origin who had been wined and dined by the world's rich and famous 
while hailed as a champion of the poor. The darling of the corporate 
media and western officialdom, and an object of celebrity adoration, 
Teresa was for many years the most revered woman on earth, showered 
with kudos and awarded a Nobel Peace Prize in 1979 for 
her "humanitarian work" and "spiritual inspiration."

What usually went unreported were the vast sums she received from 
wealthy contributors, including a million dollars from convicted 
savings & loan swindler Charles Keating, on whose behalf she sent a 
personal plea for clemency to the presiding judge. She was asked by 
the prosecutor in that case to return Keating's gift because it was 
money he had stolen. She never did. She also accepted substantial 
sums given by the brutal Duvalier dictatorship that regularly stole 
from the Haitian public treasury.

Mother Teresa's "hospitals" for the indigent in India and elsewhere 
turned out to be hardly more than human warehouses in which 
seriously ill persons lay on mats, sometimes fifty to sixty in a 
room without benefit of adequate medical attention. Their ailments 
usually went undiagnosed. The food was nutritionally lacking and 
sanitary conditions were deplorable. There were few medical 
personnel on the premises, mostly untrained nuns and brothers.

When tending to her own ailments, however, Teresa checked into some 
of the costliest hospitals and recovery care units in the world for 
state-of-the-art treatment.

Teresa journeyed the globe to wage campaigns against divorce, 
abortion, and birth control. At her Nobel award ceremony, she 
announced that "the greatest destroyer of peace is abortion." And 
she once suggested that AIDS might be a just retribution for 
improper sexual conduct.

Teresa emitted a continual flow of promotional misinformation about 
herself. She claimed that her mission in Calcutta fed over a 
thousand people daily. On other occasions she jumped the number to 
4000, 7000, and 9000. Actually her soup kitchens fed not more than 
150 people (six days a week), and this included her retinue of nuns, 
novices, and brothers. She claimed that her school in the Calcutta 
slum contained five thousand children when it actually enrolled less 
than one hundred.

Teresa claimed to have 102 family assistance centers in Calcutta, 
but longtime Calcutta resident, Aroup Chatterjee, who did an 
extensive on-the-scene investigation of her mission, could not find 
a single such center.

As one of her devotees explained, "Mother Teresa is among those who 
least worry about statistics. She has repeatedly expressed that what 
matters is not how much work is accomplished but how much love is 
put into the work." Was Teresa really unconcerned about statistics? 
Quite the contrary, her numerical inaccuracies went consistently and 
self-servingly in only one direction, greatly exaggerating her 
accomplishments.

Over the many years that her mission was in Calcutta, there were 
about a dozen floods and numerous cholera epidemics in or near the 
city, with thousands perishing. Various r

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U.S. army chief: Iraq war has sapped ability to fight Iran
 
  By Haaretz Service  
Last update - 15:59 22/10/2007
_http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/915742.html_ 
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The new chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff said in an interview 
published Monday that the prolonged military campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan 
may 
have undermined the military's ability to fight wars against major adversaries 
- including Iran. 

With the United States already heavily committed in wars in two Muslim 
countries, Joint Chiefs Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen told The New york Times 
that an 
offensive against Iran, a third Mideast Islamic state "has extraordinary 
challenges and risks associated with it." He counseled against an immediate 
attack 
on Iran, saying that the military option should be a last resort. 

But Mullen warned Iran and other nations not to "mistake restraint for lack 
of commitment or lack of concern or lack of capability." 
  
"Because we have had such an intense focus on the Middle East and Iraq and 
Afghanistan, there is risk associated with those other parts of the world," 
Admiral Mullen said. 

Asked whether the American military should aim at sites inside Iran if 
intelligence indicated that such action could stem the flow of bombs into Iraq, 
he 
said "the risks could be very, very high." 

"We're in a conflict in two countries out there right now," he added. "We 
have to be incredibly thoughtful about the potential of in fact getting into a 
conflict with a third country in that part of the world." 

Speaking of his visits to soldiers and marines in Iraq and Afghanistan in 
recent weeks, Mullen said: "They're tired. They've been doing unbelievably 
great 
work for our country. And we need to make sure we take care of them and their 
families." 

Regarding prolonged and repeated deployments for the ground forces in Iran 
and Afghanistan, he said, "The ground forces are not broken, but they are 
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Tuesday, October 23, 2007  
 
Mark Naymik

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_http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/11931286341483
60.xml&coll=2_ 
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Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich has claimed to have seen a 
UFO, according to Shirley MacLaine in her new book, "Sage-Ing While Age-Ing."  
Kucinich "had a close sighting over my home in Graham, Washington, when I 
lived there," the actress, a close Kucinich friend, wrote. "Dennis found his 
encounter extremely moving. The smell of roses drew him out to my balcony 
where, 
when he looked up, he saw a gigantic triangular craft, silent, and observing 
him.  
"It hovered, soundless, for 10 minutes or so, and sped away with a speed he 
couldn't comprehend. He said he felt a connection in his heart and heard 
directions in his mind."  

 
(http://ads.cleveland.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.cleveland.com/xml/story/nn/nnusa/@StoryAd?x)
 Kucinich's campaign and congressional 
representatives did not return calls and e-mail asking whether the Cleveland 
Democrat, now 
in his sixth congressional term, in fact saw a UFO or if there was some other 
explanation for MacLaine's recollection.  
MacLaine is a well-known believer of UFOs and reincarnation. And she has been 
close to Kucinich for decades. MacLaine is the godmother of Kucinich's 
daughter and attended Kucinich's 2005 Cleveland wedding to third wife, 
Elizabeth, 
who's often campaigning by his side.  
 
 
 
MacLaine also recommended in the 1980s that Kucinich visit New Mexico 
spiritual adviser Chris Griscom, whom MacLaine featured in her 
then-best-selling 
book, "Dancing in the Light," describing how Griscom helped her communicate 
with 
trees. Kucinich has insisted that Griscom was not his spiritual adviser but a 
"teacher and a very good friend."  
MacLaine, who shares Kucinich's opposition to using weapons in space, doesn't 
shed any more light in her book on Kucinich's close encounter, including when 
it happened. Her book goes on sale next month.  
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Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception
 
By Jim Lobe, AlterNet
Posted on May 19, 2003, Printed on October 23, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/story/15935/
What would you do if you wanted to topple Saddam Hussein, but your 
intelligence agencies couldn't find the evidence to justify a war? 
A follower of Leo Strauss may just hire the "right" kind of men to get the 
job done – people with the intellect, acuity, and, if necessary, the political 
commitment, polemical skills, and, above all, the imagination to find the 
evidence that career intelligence officers could not detect. 
The "right" man for Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, suggests Seymour 
Hersh in his recent New Yorker article entitled 'Selective Intelligence,' was 
Abram Shulsky, director of the Office of Special Plans (OSP) – an agency 
created specifically to find the evidence of WMDs and/or links with Al Qaeda, 
piece it together, and clinch the case for the invasion of Iraq. 
Like Wolfowitz, Shulsky is a student of an obscure German Jewish political 
philosopher named Leo Strauss who arrived in the United States in 1938. Strauss 
taught at several major universities, including Wolfowitz and Shulsky's alma 
mater, the University of Chicago, before his death in 1973. 
Strauss is a popular figure among the neoconservatives. Adherents of his 
ideas include prominent figures both within and outside the administration. 
They 
include 'Weekly Standard' editor William Kristol; his father and indeed the 
godfather of the neoconservative movement, Irving Kristol; the new 
Undersecretary 
of Defense for Intelligence, Stephen Cambone, a number of senior fellows at 
the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (home to former Defense Policy Board 
chairman Richard Perle and Lynne Cheney), and Gary Schmitt, the director of the 
influential Project for the New American Century (PNAC), which is chaired by 
Kristol the Younger. 
Strauss' philosophy is hardly incidental to the strategy and mindset adopted 
by these men – as is obvious in Shulsky's 1999 essay titled "Leo Strauss and 
the World of Intelligence (By Which We Do Not Mean Nous)" (in Greek philosophy 
the term nous denotes the highest form of rationality). As Hersh notes in his 
article, Shulsky and his co-author Schmitt "criticize America's intelligence 
community for its failure to appreciate the duplicitous nature of the regimes 
it deals with, its susceptibility to social-science notions of proof, and its 
inability to cope with deliberate concealment." They argued that Strauss's idea 
of hidden meaning, "alerts one to the possibility that political life may be 
closely linked to deception. Indeed, it suggests that deception is the norm in 
political life, and the hope, to say nothing of the expectation, of 
establishing a politics that can dispense with it is the exception." 
Rule One: Deception 
It's hardly surprising then why Strauss is so popular in an administration 
obsessed with secrecy, especially when it comes to matters of foreign policy. 
Not only did Strauss have few qualms about using deception in politics, he saw 
it as a necessity. While professing deep respect for American democracy, 
Strauss believed that societies should be hierarchical – divided between an 
elite 
who should lead, and the masses who should follow. But unlike fellow elitists 
like Plato, he was less concerned with the moral character of these leaders. 
According to Shadia Drury, who teaches politics at the University of Calgary, 
Strauss believed that "those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is 
no morality and that there is only one natural right – the right of the 
superior to rule over the inferior." 
This dichoto

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Lieberman’s Hawkish Iran Amendment 
Is ‘Cheney’s Fondest Pipe Dream’
 
_http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/webb-kyl-lieb-iran/_ 
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On the Senate floor today, Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) made an impassioned appeal to 
his fellow senators, declaring that the _Lieberman-Kyl amendment_ 
(http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/kyl-iran-fox/)  on Iran should be 
“withdrawn” 
because the “proposal is Dick Cheney’s fondest pipe dream.” Webb cautioned that 
the “cleverly-worded sense of the Congress” could be “interpreted” to “declare 
war” on Iran. He continued: 
Those who regret their vote five years ago to authorize military action in 
Iraq should think hard before supporting this approach. Because, in my view, it 
has the same potential to do harm where many are seeking to do good.
“At best, it’s a deliberate attempt to divert attention from a failed 
diplomatic policy,” said Webb. “At worst, it could be read as a backdoor method 
of 
gaining Congressional validation for military action, without one hearing and 
without serious debate.” Watch it: 
 


Webb said that amendment’s attempt to categorize the Iran’s Islamic 
Revolutionary Guard Corp as “a foreign terrorist organization” would, for all 
practical purposes, “mandate” the military option against Iran.  
“It could be read as tantamount to a declaration of war. What do we do with 
terrorist organizations? If they are involved against us, we attack them.” 
He also slammed the lack of debate and examination that was accompanying the 
amendment, saying “this is not the way to make foreign policy”:  
We haven’t had one hearing on this. I’m on the Foreign Relations Committee, I
’m on the Armed Services Committee. We are about to vote on something that 
may fundamentally change the way the United States views the Iranian military 
and we haven’t had one hearing. This is not the way to make foreign policy.  It’
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THE WINDSOR-BUSH BLOODLINE
Or why George W. Bush is the favourite to be
President of the United States in the year 2000! 

_http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/author/icke/1999/bushbloodline.html_ 
(http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/author/icke/1999/bushbloodline.html)  
I have recently been sent a series of genealogical charts which detail a 
bloodline and its off shoots that will be highly relevant to the readers of The 
Biggest Secret. 

I had no idea of their existence when I wrote The Biggest Secret. Yet it 
reads like an index of the book and most, if not all, of the major players in 
the 
advancing agenda of global control over thousands of years. These charts are 
stunning confirmation that the same bloodlines have expanded their power out of 
the Near and Middle East of the ancient world to control the planet today, 
precisely as detailed in The Biggest Secret. For readers of The Biggest Secret 
the following will prove extremely interesting: 

This bloodline and its offshoots includes a long line of pharaohs in ancient 
Egypt, including Rameses II (1295-1228 BC), who is considered to be the 
greatest pharaoh of all. He was his country's master architect (sacred 
geometry) and 
his name can be found on almost every ancient shrine. The gold mines of Nubia 
made him rich beyond the imagination. This bloodline also includes the 
extraterrestrial-human hybrids who ruled Sumer, Babylon, Greece, and Troy, and 
which, today, rule the world. 

One common link in this bloodline is Philip of Macedonia (382-336BC),who 
married Olympias, and their son was Alexander the Great (356-323BC), a tyrant 
who 
plundered that key region of Greece, Persia, Syria, Phoenicia, Egypt, Babylon, 
the former lands of Sumer, and across into India before dying in Babylon at 
the age of 33. During his rule of Egypt he founded the city of Alexandria, one 
the greatest centers for esoteric knowledge in the ancient world. Alexander 
was taught by the Greek philosopher, Aristotle, who in turn was taught by Plato 
and he by Socrates. The bloodline and the hidden advanced knowledge have 
always gone together. 

This key bloodline comes down through the most famous Egyptian queen, 
Cleopatra (60-30BC), who married the most famous Roman Emperor, Julius Caesar, 
and 
bore him a son, who became Ptolemy XIV. She also bore twins with Mark Anthony, 
who has his own connections to this line and its many offshoots; this bloodline 
also connects to Herod the Great, the "Herod" of the Jesus stories, and 
continues to the Roman Piso family who, as I explain in The Biggest Secret, 
wrote 
the Gospel stories and invented the mythical figure called Jesus!!; the same 
bloodline includes Constantine the Great, the Roman Emperor who, in 325AD, 
turned Christianity, based on his ancestors' stories, into the religion we know 
today, and King Ferdinand of Spain and Queen Isabella of Castile, the sponsors 
of 
Christopher Columbus, who instigated the horrific Spanish Inquisition 
(1478-1834) in which people were tortured and burned at the stake for in any 
way 
questioning the basis of the religion their various ancestors had created. 

More than that, the most used version of the Bible was commissioned and 
sponsored by another strand in the same bloodline, King James 1st of England. 
Just 
a coincidence, nothing to worry about! The line of James, according to 
genealogy sources listed below, can be traced back to 1550 BC and beyond and 
includes 
many Egyptian pharaohs, including Rameses II. 

The bloodline moved into France and northern Europe through the Franks and 
Meroveus or Merovee, who gave his name to the Merovingian bloodline, and it 
continues wit

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B-52 Nukes Headed for Iran, Not For Decommissioning: Airforce Refused
 
 
Air Force refused to fly weapons to Middle East theater 
By Wayne Madsen
Sept. 24, 2007
_http://www.oregontruthalliance.org/?q=node/245_ 
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WMR has learned from U.S. and foreign intelligence sources that the B-52 
transporting six stealth AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles, each armed with a 
W-80-1 nuclear warhead, on August 30, were destined for the Middle East via 
Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana. 
However, elements of the Air Force, supported by U.S. intelligence agency 
personnel, successfully revealed the ultimate destination of the nuclear 
weapons 
and the mission was aborted due to internal opposition within the Air Force 
and U.S. Intelligence Community. 
Yesterday, the Washington Post attempted to explain away the fact that 
America's nuclear command and control system broke down in an unprecedented 
manner 
by reporting that it was the result of "security failures at multiple levels." 
It is now apparent that the command and control breakdown, reported as a BENT 
SPEAR incident to the Secretary of Defense and White House, was not the result 
of a command and control chain-of-command "failures" but the result of a 
revolt and push back by various echelons within the Air Force and intelligence 
agencies against a planned U.S. attack on Iran using nuclear and conventional
weapons. 
The Washington Post story on BENT SPEAR may have actually been an effort in 
damage control by the Bush administration. WMR has been informed by a 
knowledgeable source that one of the six nuclear-armed cruise missiles was, and 
may 
still be, unaccounted for. In that case, the nuclear reporting incident would 
have gone far beyond BENT SPEAR to a National Command Authority alert known as 
EMPTY QUIVER, with the special classification of PINNACLE. 
Just as this report was being prepared, Newsweek reported that Vice President 
Dick Cheney's recently-departed Middle East adviser, David Wurmser, told a 
small group of advisers some months ago that Cheney had considered asking 
Israel 
to launch a missile attack on the Iranian nuclear site at Natanz. Cheney 
reasoned that after an Iranian retaliatory strike, the United States would have 
ample reasons to launch its own massive attack on Iran. However, plans for 
Israel to attack Iran directly were altered to an Israeli attack on a supposed 
Syrian-Iranian-North Korean nuclear installation in northern Syria. 
WMR has learned that a U.S. attack on Iran using nuclear and conventional 
weapons was scheduled to coincide with Israel's September 6 air attack on a 
reputed Syrian nuclear facility in Dayr az-Zwar, near the village of Tal Abyad, 
in 
northern Syria, near the Turkish border. Israel's attack, code named OPERATION 
ORCHARD, was to provide a reason for the U.S. to strike Iran. The 
neo-conservative propaganda onslaught was to cite the cooperation of the George 
Bush's 
three remaining "Axis of Evil" states -- Syria, Iran, and North Korea -- to 
justify a sustained Israeli attack on Syria and a massive U.S. military attack 
on 
Iran. 
WMR has learned from military sources on both sides of the Atlantic that 
there was a definite connection between Israel's OPERATION ORCHARD and BENT 
SPEAR 
involving the B-52 that flew the six nuclear-armed cruise missiles from Minot 
Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale. There is also a connection 
between these two events as the Pentagon's highly-classified PROJECT CHECKMATE, 
a 
compartmented U.S. Air Force program that has been working on an attack plan 
for 
Iran since June 2007, a

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Confederate flag spotted hanging at club where VP hunted

9:06 AM EDT, October 30, 2007

_http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--cheney-hunting1030oc
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UNION VALE, N.Y. - Vice President Dick Cheney's eight-hour outing at a 
secluded Hudson Valley gun club went off without incident -- except for the 
Confederate flag the media spotted hanging inside a garage. 

Cheney's visit Monday to Clove Valley Rod & Gun Club in Dutchess County, 
about 70 miles north of New York City, was made under tight security that kept 
reporters and photographers well away from the vice president's hunting party. 

But after Cheney's visit, a New York Daily News photographer snapped a 
picture of a Confederate flag hanging inside a garage on the hunt club 
property. In 
the photo published in Tuesday's editions, the flag, about the size of a 
pillow case, is seen covering the top of the window on a door at the back of 
the 
garage. 

The New York Post reported the flag hung in the garage attached to the club 
headquarters. 

The Daily News photo was shown to the Rev. Al Sharpton, the civil rights 
activist, who issued a statement demanding that the vice president "denounce 
the 
club, and apologize for going to a club that represents lynching, hate and 
murder to black people." 

A phone message left with the club by The Associated Press on Tuesday morning 
was not returned. 

Sharpton's statement was issued hours after Cheney departed the club at 3:45 
p.m. Monday for a flight out of Stewart Air National Guard Base. In a 
statement issued Monday evening, Cheney spokeswoman Megan Mitchell said neither 
Cheney 
nor anyone on his staff saw such a flag at the hunt club. 

It's not clear whether the front door of the garage that contained the flag 
was even open at the time the vice president was at the club, where well-heeled 
hunters shoot ducks and pheasants. 

Daily News photograph Howard Simmons told the Poughkeepsie Journal that the 
garage's front door was open when he snapped the photo and that the flag was 
plainly visible to those standing outside. 

The flag flap was minor compared with the controversy that arose in 2006 
after Cheney accidentally peppered attorney Harry Whittington with birdshot 
while 
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_http://www.misterpoll.com/results.mpl?id=774494027_ 
(http://www.misterpoll.com/results.mpl?id=774494027) 
 
 
If the anti-christ has been born and is in power, whom would he most likely 
be?
 

 George Bush (53%)
 
 Jacques Chirac (11%)
 
 The anti-christ is not in power (9%)
 
 Other (7%)
 
 I do not believe in the anti-christ (6%)
 
 Vladimir Putin (Russia) (2%)
 
 Osama Bin Laden (Al-Qaida) (1%)
 
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This TV broadcast was pure unadulterated superstition-mongering masquerading 
as a "historical" documentary (from the same folks who brought you the special 
on the "Jesus Family Tomb") ... 
 
The featured "New Age" commentators were apparently all too dimwitted to 
recognize that the 72 plates in the book were essentially Tarot cards -- the 
Wheel 
of Fortune, the Tower (here interpreted as a prophecy of the Twin Towers on 
9/11, as if no one had seen a Tarot deck before!), etc., were all clearly in 
evidence.  The "final" 7 plates which they regarded as being especially 
significant and full of foreboding were plainly just iconic of the 7 planets -- 
any 
halfwit should have noticed that on the bottom half of each of those plates, 
the 
dual sign-rulership of the particular planet was depicted.  How totally 
clueless!  If I recall correctly, they described the "Mercury" plate (the Twins 
[Gemini] and the Virgin [Virgo] seen below it) as representing "the 
Antichrist," 
when I'd have viewed it as a caricature of old magus Nostradamus himself.
 
Some of the nonsense promoted in this documentary: (1) Nostradamus had some 
relationship with the Templars, who had a church ("St Michael of the 
Apocalypse") within walking distance; (2) Nostradamus used a zodiac of 13 
signs, the 
13th being the constellation Ophiuchus  (straight out of "Holy Blood, Holy 
Grail," PoS propaganda) "between Scorpio and Sagittarius," where the Galactic 
center 
is located; and (3) the pictorial symbolism by "Nostradamus" reveals that he 
knew the world would end in 2012, when the ecliptic and galactic planes 
coincide at that point (which presumes the PoS knew Mayan astronomy).
 
Never mind the fact that, in the kept-safely-at-a-distance, very underplayed 
background of the documentary, we watch experts subjecting the MS. to 
scientific tests which reveal that, while the watermarked paper is identifiable 
as 
originating in the 1600s, the handwriting is in 3 different hands, the zinc in 
the ink dating one of them as after 1800, and we're asked to believe that an 
annotation added on the first page of the MS. justifies it being ascribed to 
"Nostradamus" instead of the 19th Century personage recorded as author.
 
Oh, and the face of OSAMA BIN LADEN is flashed onscreen at least a dozen 
times, whenever the "Third ANTICHRIST" (after Napoleon and Hitler) is 
mentioned.  
And, silly me, *I* thought the Antichrist was supposed to be a publicly 
celebrated "man of peace," while secretly a war-maker, like GEORGE BUSH.
(What, are all "New Agers" right-wingers today, in contrast to the 
left-leaning mystics of the Sixties?) 
 
So blatantly misleading, as well as inaccurate, that it makes me wonder what 
the REAL AGENDA of the "History" Channel is nowadays, seeing that it's wasting 
so much airtime passing off pure fantasy-based speculations about curious 
artifacts as some kind of serious history (or factual journalism).  
 
Is SUPERSTITION being used in the "disinformation age" as a very useful 
handmaiden of FEAR?
 
 

 
The History Channel
 
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_Channel_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_Channel) 
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_Channel#searchInput) 
The History Channel is a _cable television_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_television)  channel, which primarily 
presents programming related to 
historical events and persons—often with observations and explanations by noted 
_historians_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian)  as well as _reenactors_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_reenactment)  and interviews with 
witnesses. Some of the original programming is also shown on _History 
Televi

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Minnesota's Finnish guests find a rude airport welcome
The musicians say they were subjected to harsh, demeaning treatment; the U.S. 
government says it's investigating. 
By _Jean Hopfensperger_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) , Star Tribune 
_http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1513926.html_ 
(http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1513926.html)  
Last update: October 28, 2007 – 10:54 PM 
 
 
 
 
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When three of Finland's most popular musicians, including one described as 
that country's Bruce Springsteen, arrived for a recent tour in Minnesota, they 
expected a quick trip through airport customs. 



 
Instead, immigration agents at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport 
subjected them to more than two hours of interrogation that the musicians 
considered so harsh and demeaning that they filed a formal complaint with the 
U.S. Embassy in Helsinki.  
"It was almost three hours of screaming, door-slamming and accusations, 
according to the report I received," said Marianne Wargelin, honorary Finnish 
consul for the Dakotas and most of Minnesota, which has the second largest 
Finnish-American population in the nation.  
Erkki Maattanen, a filmmaker for Finnish Public Television who accompanied 
the musicians on the September trip, said his questioners seemed to think the 
entourage was smuggling drugs or intending to work without a permit. "I kept 
trying to tell them why we were here, but they'd just yell, 'Shut up!"' he 
said.  
U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials at the airport declined to 
comment, referring questions to regional press officer Brett Sturgeon.  
Sturgeon said such behavior, if it occurred, would run contrary to the 
agency's policy that travelers must be treated in a professional manner. The 
complaint has not yet arrived at the Chicago regional office, but when it does, 
it 
will be fully investigated, he said.  
He speculated that the Finns could have been singled out because they were 
arriving from Amsterdam, considered high risk for narcotics trafficking.  
The incident began about noon Sept. 13 when the artists were standing in line 
at the airport, waiting for their passports to be checked, said Maattanen. 
They had been invited to the Immigration History Research Center at the 
University of Minnesota for a cultural tribute to Finnish-Americans. They also 
planned 
to travel to Thunder Bay, Ontario, and several small towns in Minnesota and 
Michigan to meet Finnish-Americans and play music from their homeland.  
Finnish Public Television, which was making a documentary about the trip, and 
the university paid travel expenses, said Prof. Jukka Savolainen, who was 
waiting at the airport to meet them.  
As the artists waited in line, two immigration agents approached musician 
Jukka Karjalainen, whom Savolainen described as "the Bruce Springsteen of 
Finland" as well as a devotee of Finnish-American folk music. According to the 
complaint, they began questioning and yelling at him.  
Sniffing dogs  
Dogs were brought in to sniff the artists' bags. Each was taken into a 
separate room for questioning, which focused on whether they were going to earn 
any 
money on their trip.  
"They threatened us with severe punishments if we talk to each other," 
according to the complaint signed by musicians Ninni Poijärvi and Mika 
Kuokkanen, 
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To Implement Policy, Bush to Turn to Administrative Orders


By Michael Abramowitz and Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post, October 31, 2007; A03 
_http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/30/AR20071030005
58_pf.html_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/30/AR2007103000558_pf.html)
 
_The White House_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/The+White+House?tid=informline)
  plans to try implementing as much new policy as it can 
by administrative order while stepping up its confrontational rhetoric with 
Congress after concluding that _President Bush_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/George+W.+Bush?tid=informline) 
 cannot do much business with 
the Democratic leadership, administration officials said. 
According to those officials, Bush and his advisers blame Democrats for the 
holdup of _Judge Michael B. Mukasey_ 
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 's nomination to be attorney general, 
the failure to pass any of the 12 annual spending bills, and what they see as 
their refusal to involve the White House in any meaningful negotiations over 
the stalemated children's health-care legislation. 
White House aides say the only way Bush seems to be able to influence the 
process is by vetoing legislation or by issuing administrative orders, as he 
has 
in recent weeks on veterans' health care, air-traffic congestion, protecting 
endangered fish and immigration. They say they expect Bush to issue more of 
such orders in the next several months, even as he speaks out on the need to 
limit spending and resist any tax increases. 
The events of recent weeks have "crystallized that the chances of these 
leaders meeting the administration halfway are becoming increasingly remote," 
said 
White House spokesman _Tony Fratto_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Tony+Fratto?tid=informline) . 
Bush himself has been complaining more and more bitterly about congressional 
Democrats in recent weeks. In a private meeting yesterday with House 
Republicans in the East Room of the White House, Bush recalled how he had been 
able to 
work with Democrats when he was _Texas_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Texas?tid=informline)  
governor and said he had hoped to find the 
same relationships in Washington. 
"He sort of longs for those days, when both sides were genuinely interested 
in getting along and getting a deal," said _Rep. Adam H. Putnam_ 
(http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000586/)  (R-Fla.), the 
chairman of 
the House Republican Conference, who helped organize yesterday's White House 
meeting, attended by about 150 Republicans. 
The president offered more criticism after the session. "Congress is not 
getting its work done," Bush said. "We're near the end of the year, and there 
really isn't much to show for it." 
House Democratic leaders fired back at Bush with strong rhetoric of their 
own. "The president wants the same complacent, complicit Congress that was a 
co-conspirator in a coverup of what was going on in this country," said House 
_Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer_ 
(http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/h000874/)  (D-Md.). 
Both sides have their own political calculations for digging in, with the 
White House and Republicans seeking to reestablish their credentials as fiscal 
conservatives and with Democrats concluding that they are on the right side 
politically on children's health care and other issues. 
On some issues, the White House has become increasingly left out of the 
legislative process. Bush's objection to any tax increases, for instan

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_http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/foreign/display.var.1792035.0.0.php_ 
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The US is secretly upgrading special stealth bomber hangars 
on the British island protectorate of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean 
in preparation for strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, 
according to military sources. 



 
 

Guantanamo military lawyer breaks ranks 
to condemn 'unconscionable' detention
 
_http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3101949.ece_ 
(http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3101949.ece)  

The army major has said that in the rare circumstances in which it was 
decided that the detainees were no longer enemy combatants, senior commanders 
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Major powers to meet on Iran this week
 
 
Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:06am GMT
 
 
_http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL3013165820071031?sp=true_ 
(http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL3013165820071031?sp=true) 


 
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By Fredrik Dahl 
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Major powers plan to meet in London this week to discuss 
new sanctions on Iran amid a spat between Washington and the U.N. atomic energy 
watchdog over Tehran's nuclear ambitions, U.S. officials said. 
The officials in Washington, who asked not to be named because they were not 
authorised to discuss the matter in public, said they expected the five 
permanent members of the U.N. Security Council plus Germany to meet towards the 
end 
of the week. 
But Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who left Tehran on Wednesday 
after a short visit, suggested a unified approach was a way off, telling 
reporters 
"economic unilateral sanctions ... will not help the continued collective 
effort", an apparent reference to new U.S. punitive measures announced last 
week. 
The Iranian news agency IRNA, reporting Lavrov's departure, gave no further 
details of his talks. 
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in a speech on Tuesday that Iran 
would not retreat in the dispute and dismissed U.S. offers of broader 
negotiations if Iran suspends its most sensitive atomic activities. 
"This nation will not negotiate with anyone over its obvious and legal 
rights," he said. "... the Iranian nation does not need America." 
This week's meeting of the so-called P5+1 -- the United States, Great 
Britain, France and Germany, Russia and China-- was to have taken place two 
weeks 
ago, but China pulled out in protest against the U.S. Congress' plan to honour 
the Dalai Lama. 
Its purpose is to discuss a possible third U.N. Security Council resolution 
imposing sanctions against Iran for its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment.  
It was unclear whether the London meeting would take place on Thursday or on 
Friday. 
The world's major powers agreed in late September to delay a vote on tougher 
sanctions on Iran until late November at the earliest, depending on reports by 
the U.N. nuclear watchdog and a European Union negotiator. 
GIVE IRAN MORE TIME 
Russia and China opposed an early move to tighten economic sanctions, saying 
Tehran should be given more time to cooperate with the International Atomic 
Energy Agency (IAEA) to shed light on its past activities. 
Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei has annoyed Washington by suggesting its 
sometimes harsh stance toward Tehran was counter-productive. On Sunday, he 
urged 
Iran's critics to "stop spinning and hyping the Iranian issue". 
Washington slapped new sanctions on Iran last week and recent months have 
seen somewhat belligerent rhetoric that has prompted speculation of possible 
U.S. 
military action before President George W. Bush steps down in January 2009. 
Bush recently suggested a nuclear-armed Iran could lead to World War Three, 
but a White House spokeswoman said on Tuesday that was a "hypothetical 
situation" and the president was determined to resolve the standoff through 
diplomacy. 
"There is no intention of bombing Iran," Dana Perino told reporters. "We are 
on a diplomatic track. We are working with our partners in the U.N. Security 
Council." 
Visiting Tehran two weeks ago, President Vladimir Putin said Russia would not 
accept military strikes against Iran. Russia says dialogue is the way to ease 
tensions. 
The Lavrov visit coincides with a crucial round of talks in Tehran between 
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Thanks,
Robert Sterling
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http://www.konformist.com

Robalini's Note: After speaking to high-powered lawyers this week 
retained by Greg Bishop, alleged CIA disinformation agent, I regret 
to inform all Konformist readers that I am unfortunately unable to 
currently provide the evidence of his ties to the CIA until I retain 
counsel over the legal proceedings which are currently being 
launched against me.  Hopefully, this matter will be taken care of 
soon.  In the meantime, here is a piece from Adam Gorightly's 
wonderful blog on the story.  Enjoy it before legal shenanigans 
force him to take it down as well...

http://gorightly.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/greg-bishop-outed-on-
untamed-dimensions/

Greg Bishop Outed on Untamed Dimensions
October 27, 2007

A truly great and courageous American citizen, Robert Sterling 
of "The Konformist", appeared on my show today and revealed the 
shocking evidence he has uncovered which proves–beyond a shadow of a 
doubt–that Greg Bishop, author of "Project Beta", is a CIA 
disinfomation agent. The interview can be listened to, in its 
entirety, at the following link: 

http://gorightly.podomatic.com/entry/2007-10-26T19_10_22-07_00

I commend Mr Sterling for having the fortitude to step forward and 
blow the whistle on an individual I once considered a dear friend, 
but who it now has been revealed was pulling the wool over ALL of 
our eyes. 

And although Mr Sterling is not one to toot is own horn, I want to 
publicly note that not only has he put his own life on the line by 
outing Bishop, but that he also oversees his own ministry, which 
helps wayward young women to get right with the lord, and set 
themselves upon the path of salvation. Below are just a few photos 
featuring Rev. Sterling with some of the women he has helped shepard 
back into good graces of our heavenly father.

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[cia-drugs] Fwd: Bush Fed Up with Congress, Decides to Rule by Fiat

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To Implement Policy, Bush to Turn to Administrative Orders


By Michael Abramowitz and Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post, October 31, 2007; A03 
_http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/30/AR20071030005
58_pf.html_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/30/AR2007103000558_pf.html)
 
_The White House_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/The+White+House?tid=informline)
  plans to try implementing as much new policy as it can 
by administrative order while stepping up its confrontational rhetoric with 
Congress after concluding that _President Bush_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/George+W.+Bush?tid=informline) 
 cannot do much business with 
the Democratic leadership, administration officials said. 
According to those officials, Bush and his advisers blame Democrats for the 
holdup of _Judge Michael B. Mukasey_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Michael+Mukasey?tid=informline)
 's nomination to be attorney general, 
the failure to pass any of the 12 annual spending bills, and what they see as 
their refusal to involve the White House in any meaningful negotiations over 
the stalemated children's health-care legislation. 
White House aides say the only way Bush seems to be able to influence the 
process is by vetoing legislation or by issuing administrative orders, as he 
has 
in recent weeks on veterans' health care, air-traffic congestion, protecting 
endangered fish and immigration. They say they expect Bush to issue more of 
such orders in the next several months, even as he speaks out on the need to 
limit spending and resist any tax increases. 
The events of recent weeks have "crystallized that the chances of these 
leaders meeting the administration halfway are becoming increasingly remote," 
said 
White House spokesman _Tony Fratto_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Tony+Fratto?tid=informline) . 
Bush himself has been complaining more and more bitterly about congressional 
Democrats in recent weeks. In a private meeting yesterday with House 
Republicans in the East Room of the White House, Bush recalled how he had been 
able to 
work with Democrats when he was _Texas_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Texas?tid=informline)  
governor and said he had hoped to find the 
same relationships in Washington. 
"He sort of longs for those days, when both sides were genuinely interested 
in getting along and getting a deal," said _Rep. Adam H. Putnam_ 
(http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000586/)  (R-Fla.), the 
chairman of 
the House Republican Conference, who helped organize yesterday's White House 
meeting, attended by about 150 Republicans. 
The president offered more criticism after the session. "Congress is not 
getting its work done," Bush said. "We're near the end of the year, and there 
really isn't much to show for it." 
House Democratic leaders fired back at Bush with strong rhetoric of their 
own. "The president wants the same complacent, complicit Congress that was a 
co-conspirator in a coverup of what was going on in this country," said House 
_Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer_ 
(http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/h000874/)  (D-Md.). 
Both sides have their own political calculations for digging in, with the 
White House and Republicans seeking to reestablish their credentials as fiscal 
conservatives and with Democrats concluding that they are on the right side 
politically on children's health care and other issues. 
On some issues, the White House has become increasingly left out of the 
legislative process. Bush's objection to any tax increases, for instance, has 
pushed Republicans in the House and the Senate to pursue their own negotiations 
over an expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), 
concluding that a final bill must include a significant tobacco tax increase to 
offset its cost. 
Even as they offer the president public support, some Republicans on the Hill 
are hinting that they might break with Bush if the price is right. Asked 
yesterday whether he could support an SCHIP bill that Bush opposes, House 
_Minority Leader John A. Boehner_ 
(http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/b000589/)  (R-Ohio) 
suggested that is a possibility. "He has his position. 
House Republicans have theirs," Boehner said. 
While Bush castigated Democrats for lack of productivity, congressional 
Republicans have had their own reasons for moving slowly. On SCHIP, for 
example, 
they have said that both sides could reach a deal if the Democratic leadership 
would slow down and let negotiations proceed. 
GOP _Sens. Charles E. Grassley_ 
(http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/g000386/)  (_Iowa_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Iowa?tid=informline) ) and 
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[CTRL] Fwd: Next in Line at the Guillotine after Bush, PELOSI (and Save a Space for Hillary)

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Subject: Next in Line at the Guillotine after Bush, PELOSI (and  
Save a Space for Hillary)


Nancy Pelosi,
Public Enemy Number One


Wednesday, 17 October 2007
by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley

http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php? 
option=com_content&task=view&id=397&Itemid=44


Her machinations since Democrats took over the U.S. House in  
January 2007 show that Speaker Nancy Pelosi isn't scared of the  
Republicans - "her eagerness to cooperate with the Bush regime is  
matched only by her incompetence in leading Congress." Pelosi and  
her leadership clique have never had the slightest intention of  
seriously opposing George Bush, since they are quite content with a  
status quo of endless war, half of New Orleans abandoned, true  
universal health care on perpetual hold, and a growing police  
state. Every constituency of the Democratic Party has been  
betrayed, with the complicity of Pelosi and her crowd. And there  
must be pay-back for back-stabbing.








"If they were poor and they were sleeping on my sidewalk, they'd be  
arrested for loitering, but because they have 'Impeach Bush' across  
their chest, it's the First Amendment." - Nancy Pelosi


The Democratic Speaker of the House would like to arrest activists  
for loitering. Her Quisling like behavior has led protesters to her  
front door in San Francisco, but she has only herself to blame for  
the inconveniences she and her rich neighbors now suffer. The great  
unwashed masses have a right to assemble at her home, her office,  
or anywhere else they choose in order to exercise what is left of  
their right to speak freely. Her own words show her level of  
contempt for the democratic process.


It is clear that Nancy Pelosi's reign as Speaker has been an  
absolute disaster for the Democratic party and for the entire  
nation. Her eagerness to cooperate with the Bush regime is matched  
only by her incompetence in leading Congress. Under her watch,  
Congress gave Alberto Gonzales, on his way to riding out of town on  
a rail, a significant victory by expanding FISA regulations to  
allow warrantless surveillance of American citizens.


"Her eagerness to cooperate with the Bush regime is matched only by  
her incompetence in leading Congress."


The story of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act debacle has  
been blamed on Bush. It is true that he once again lied about a  
terror threat, but it is not true that Pelosi and the rest of the  
Democrats were innocently stampeded. The Democrats had every  
intention of caving from the very beginning.


Pelosi and the rest of the leadership promised the ACLU and other  
civil liberties groups that they wouldn't pass a bill without first  
investigating the extent of White House lawbreaking and without  
consulting them first. They did no such thing.


As an ACLU lobbyist put it, "They turned around and f***ed us over,  
and the Constitution, all at once."


Disappointment in the Democrats, pleas to "grow a spine" miss the  
point entirely. Pelosi and her clique have no interest in  
Democracy.  They go through the flimsiest pretense of opposing Bush  
when they have no interest in doing so.  Her goal is to preserve  
the status quo, not to overturn it.


Nancy Pelosi now has stated publicly what she thinks of us, the  
citizens of this country. We are an irritant to be tolerated, not  
people with rights that must be respected.


Pelosi is an omen, a warning that acceptance of Democratic Party  
actions is the first step on the road to political hell. It is a  
lesson that must be learned now, before President Hillary Clinton  
takes office.


"They go through the flimsiest pretense of opposing Bush when they  
have no interest in doing so."


The fix is definitely in for Clinton to win the Democratic party  
nomination. The Democratic candidates' fundraising prowess versus  
Republicans is a sign that the big money political donors of both  
parties are all betting on the Democratic horse.


Clinton's ascension to the throne now reserved for family dynasties  
should not be accepted as an absolute victory. The "middle of the  
road" after Bush is still right wing. Triangulation this time  
around means more war, New Orleans destroyed and deserted, and more  
dirty dealings in Congress.


Pelosi, Harry Reid and the rest of what passes for Congressional  
leadership have perfected their criminal enterprise. Every act of  
treachery is followed by lame excuses for inaction. The truly  
spineless ones, progressives wallowing in denial, foolishly whine,  
asking each other what is wrong when the answer stares them in the  
face. The Democratic party is complicit in killing democracy.


"Civil liberties groups and antiwar groups must finally realize  
that th

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Hillary's Mystery Money Men
by RUSS BAKER & ADAM FEDERMAN 
[from the November 5, 2007 issue] 
_http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071105/baker_federman_ 
(http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071105/baker_federman)  
In the Clintons' pursuit of power, there is no such thing as a strange 
bedfellow. One recently exposed inamorata was Norman Hsu, the mysterious 
businessman 
from Hong Kong who brought in $850,000 to Hillary Clinton's campaign before 
being unmasked as a fugitive. Her campaign dismissed Hsu as someone who'd 
slipped through the cracks of an otherwise unimpeachable system for vetting 
donors, 
and perhaps he was.  
The same cannot be said for the notorious financier Alan Quasha, whose 
involvement with Clinton is at least as substantial -- and still under wraps.  
Political junkies will recall Quasha as the controversial figure who bailed 
out George W. Bush's failing oil company in 1986, folding Bush into his 
company, Harken Energy, thus setting him on the path to a lucrative and 
high-profile 
position as an owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team, and the presidency. 
The persistently unprofitable Harken --many of whose board members, connected 
to powerful foreign interests and the intelligence community, nevertheless 
profited enormously-- faced intense scrutiny in the early 1990s and again 
during 
Bush's first term.  
Now Quasha is back -- on the other side of the aisle. Operating below the 
radar, he entered Hillary Clinton's circle even before she declared her 
candidacy 
by quietly arranging for the hire of Clinton confidant and longtime 
Democratic Party money man Terry McAuliffe at one of his companies. During the 
interregnum between McAuliffe's chairmanship of the Democratic Party and the 
time he 
officially joined Clinton's campaign, Quasha's firm set McAuliffe up with a 
salary and opened a Washington office for him.  
Just a few years earlier, McAuliffe had publicly criticized Bush for his 
financial dealings with Harken, disparaging the company's Enron-like 
accounting. 
Yet in 2005 McAuliffe accepted this cushy perch with Quasha's newly acquired 
investment firm, Carret Asset Management, and even brought along former Clinton 
White House business liaison Peter O'Keefe, who had been his senior aide at 
the Democratic National Committee. McAuliffe remained with the company until he 
became national chair of Hillary's presidential bid, and O'Keefe never left. 
McAuliffe's connection to Quasha has, until now, never been noted.  
Another strong link between Quasha and Clinton is Quasha's business partner, 
Hassan Nemazee, a top Hillary fundraiser who was trotted out to defend her 
during the Hsu episode -- in which the clothing manufacturer was unmasked as a 
swindler who seemingly funneled illegal contributions through "donors" of 
modest 
means.  
In June, by liquidating a blind trust, the Clintons sought to distance 
themselves from any financial entanglements that might embarrass the campaign. 
Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson argued that the couple had gone "above and 
beyond" 
what was legally required "in order to avoid even the hint of a conflict of 
interest." But throughout their political careers, Bill and Hillary Clinton 
have repeatedly associated with people whose objectives seemed a million miles 
from "a place called Hope." Among these Alan Quasha and his menagerie 
--including Saudi frontmen, a foreign dictator, figures with intelligence ties 
and a 
maze of companies and offshore funds-- stand out.  
"That Hillary Clinton's campaign is involved with this particular cast of 
characters should give people pause," says John Moscow, a former Manhattan 
prosecutor. In the late 1980s and ea

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Dollar hits another record low vs. euro
Weak dollar likely to be hot topic at meeting of G7 finance ministers as 
European officials worry about hit to exports.
October 19 2007: 5:52 AM EDT
_http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/19/markets/dollar_vs_euro.ap/index.htm_ 
(http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/19/markets/dollar_vs_euro.ap/index.htm) 


BERLIN (AP) -- The dollar hit a new all time-low against the 13-nation euro 
Friday, breaking through the previous record, set a day earlier, as the U.S. 
currency remained under pressure. 
In morning European trading, the euro bought US$1.4319 - surpassing the mark 
of $1.4310 set Thursday - before settling back slightly to $1.4306. 
 
 
 
 
The euro bought $1.4293 in late New York trading on Thursday. The British 
pound climbed to $2.0472 on Friday from $2.0448 in New York the day before, 
while 
the dollar slipped to purchase 114.88 Japanese yen from 115.65 on Thursday.
 




The further dip in the dollar followed another weak economic report from 
Washington.
Currency will be a hotly debated topic at an annual G-7 meeting of central 
bank heads and finance ministers to be held in Washington Friday, according to 
Michael Woolfolk, senior currency strategist at the Bank of New York. 
"The fact that the euro has risen suggests that the negative dollar sentiment 
is strong and persistent, due to recent deterioration in interest rate 
differentials and growth differentials," Woolfolk said. 
European officials are worried that the euro's rise against the dollar will 
hurt exports to the U.S. and China. The European Central Bank is expected to 
raise interest rates by January, while in the United States, the Federal 
Reserve 
will likely reduce interest rates at the end of the month, Woolfolk said. 
The U.S. Labor Department reported Thursday that applications for jobless 
benefits hit 337,000 last week - up 28,000 from the week before and the biggest 
one-week surge since claims jumped 42,000 in the week of Feb. 10. 
The jobless rate increase in the U.S. was more than four times the gain of 
6,000 that economists had been expecting and was taken as a possible sign that 
the labor market is starting to weaken under the weight of a severe housing down
turn and tight credit markets. 
Earlier this week, both U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed 
Chairman Ben Bernanke warned that the housing crisis was likely to last longer 
than 
had been expected. 
Already on Wednesday, the U.S. Commerce Department said the construction of 
new homes and apartments plunged to a 14-year low in September, while the 
National Association of Home Builders' survey of builder confidence fell in 
early 
October to the lowest level seen in the 22-year history of the survey. 
- 
Brutal selloff on Wall Street
Dow down around 367 points, its third worst day of the year, on fears about 
credit and housing sector, mediocre earnings, record-high oil prices, the slide 
in the dollar, and what the Fed will do next.
By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks tanked Friday as worries about more 
problems in the bank sector, slower corporate earnings growth, the weak dollar, 
and 
record-high oil prices all came to a head. 
The Dow Jones industrial average lost around 367 points, according to early 
tallies, seeing its third-biggest point loss of the year since the steep 
selloff in early August in the midst of the credit and mortgage market mess.  
 

 
 

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Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power (Threat Level Plays Along)
By Kevin Poulsen October 17, 2007 | 2:47:58 PMCategories: Election '08   
At a press briefing this morning that touched on issues like the White House's 
extrajudicial wiretapping program and torture policies, the president was asked 
a question about Vladimir Putin's plan to hold on to power when his term as 
Russian president runs out. 

  Reporter: Mr. President, following up on Vladimir Putin for a moment, he said 
recently that next year, when he has to step down according to the 
constitution, as the president, he may become prime minister; in effect keeping 
power and dashing any hopes for a genuine democratic transition there ...

  Bush: I've been planning that myself. 

Ahahahahaha. That's funny. It's a great comedian who can give voice to what 
everyone else is just thinking. 

Despite the president's occasional contempt for the law, THREAT LEVEL doesn't 
believe that he's going to declare a state of emergency and cancel the 2008 
election. But in July, we filed some FOIA requests anyway. We asked five 
Justice Department offices for documents produced or revised after August 2001 
"addressing the feasibility, advisability or lawfulness of deferring, 
rescheduling or canceling a U.S. national election." 

The Office of Legal Counsel responded in nine days: It has no documents fitting 
that description. This is the office specifically tasked with advising the 
president on legal matters, and which infamously  belched out a memo 
sanctioning torture in 2002. 

This was, by the way, the fastest FOIA response I've ever gotten -- the speed 
suggesting the proposition was so ludicrous that it demanded swift repudiation. 
(Or that the office wanted to dispose of the FOIA before the White House went 
and asked for election postponement options). The Office of the Attorney 
General responded late last month (.pdf), also reporting no records found. 
Ditto the Office of the Associate Attorney General. 

Only two offices haven't given the all-clear: The Office of the Deputy Attorney 
General is still looking into it. The National Security Division says it can't 
even estimate when I might get a response, because there are 14 unrelated FOIA 
requests ahead of mine.

That means I'll probably hear back sometime in late 2009, by which time Bush 
won't even be in office any more. Unless he is. Ahahahahaha. Just kidding.

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Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) announced today that he will stop the Foreign 
Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) reform legislation from being considered 
by the full Senate and from receiving a vote on the Senate floor.  Dodd will 
place a hold on the bill, a tool available to Senators to stop legislation from 
moving forward. 
 
By granting immunity to telecommunications companies that participated in the 
President’s terrorist surveillance program, even though such participation may 
have been illegal, the FISA reform bill sets a dangerous precedent by giving 
the President sweeping authorization to neglect the right to privacy that 
Americans are entitled to under the Constitution.  
 
“The President has no right to secretly eavesdrop on the conversations and 
activities of law abiding American citizens and anyone who has aided and 
abetted him in these illegal activities should be held accountable,” said Dodd. 
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President is the perpetrator.  I will do everything in my power to stop 
Congress from shielding this President’s agenda of secrecy, deception, and 
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Pieces Just Don’t Fit

By DAVID W. DUNLAP and SERGE F. KOVALESKI,
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(Sept. 27) -- Tania Head’s story, as shared over the years with reporters, 
students, friends and hundreds of visitors to ground zero, was a remarkable 
account of both life and death. 

She had, she said, survived the terror attack on the World Trade Center 
despite having been badly burned when the plane crashed into the upper floors 
of 
the south tower. 

Crawling through the chaos and carnage on the 78th floor that morning, she 
said, she encountered a dying man who handed her his inscribed wedding ring, 
which she later returned to his widow. 

Her own life was saved, she said, by a selfless volunteer who stanched the 
flames on her burning clothes before she was helped down the stairs. It was a 
journey she said she had the strength to make because she kept thinking of a 
beautiful white dress she was to wear at her coming marriage ceremony to a man 
named Dave. 

But later she would discover, she said, that Dave, her fiancé, and in some 
versions her husband, had perished in the north tower. 

As a matter of history, Ms. Head’s account made her one of only 19 survivors 
who had been at or above the point of impact when the planes hit. As a matter 
of emotion, her story deeply moved audiences like college students to whom she 
spoke and visitors at ground zero, where she has long led tours for the 
Tribute W.T.C. Visitor Center for visitors including Mayor Michael R. 
Bloomberg, 
former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and former Gov. George E. Pataki. 

“What I witnessed there I will never forget,” she told a gathering at Baruch 
College at a memorial event in 2006. “It was a lot of death and destruction, 
but I also saw hope.” 

Much of Ms. Head’s account was posted on the Web site of the World Trade 
Center Survivors’ Network, a nonprofit organization for which she served as 
president and as point person for corporate donations. 



 
 
 
 
 
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But no part of her story, it turns out, has been verified. 

The family and friends of the man to whom she claimed to be engaged say they 
have never heard of Tania Head and view the relationship she describes with 
the man, who truly died in the north tower, as an impossibility. 

A spokeswoman for Merrill Lynch & Company, where she told people she worked 
at the time of the terror attack, said the company had no record of employing a 
Tania Head. 

And few people, it seems, who embraced the gripping immediacy and pain of her 
account ever asked the name of the man whose ring she had returned, or that 
of the hospital where she was treated, or the identities of the people she met 
with in the south tower on the morning of 9/11. 

“She never shared those details, and it was nothing we wanted to probe,” 
said Alison Crowther, the mother of Welles Remy Crowther, a man who died on 
9/11 
and who is credited with rescuing a number of people from the south tower, 
including, by Ms. Head’s account, Ms. Head. “I felt it was too private and 
painful for her.” 

In recent weeks, The New York Times sought to interview Ms. Head about her 
experiences on 9/11 because she had, in other settings, presented a poignant 
account of survival and loss. But she canceled three scheduled interviews, 
citing 
her privacy and emotional turmoil, and declined to provide details to 
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Energy-rich Caspian becomes center of U.S.-Russia power struggle 
By Judy Dempsey
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 
 

BERLIN: Is the Caspian a sea or a lake?

The answer has immense repercussions for the energy industry. If it is a 
lake, there are no obligations by countries that flank it to grant 
permits to foreign vessels or drilling companies. But if it is sea, there 
are international treaties obliging those countries to an array of 
permits.

The Caspian, one of the world's largest enclosed bodies of water, has 
become the center of a new power game involving the United States and 
Russia as well as its bordering countries, including Iran, over who 
should control the vast energy reserves under its depths.

The Caspian's status has been in dispute since the collapse of the Soviet 
Union in 1991. Over the past few years, the United States has been trying 
to establish alternative energy routes that would weaken the regional 
dominance of Russia and Iran, while Russia has sought to control the 
transportation routes across these waters.

When Vice President Dick Cheney visited Kazakhstan last year, he used the 
occasion to launch a fierce attack against President Vladimir Putin of 
Russia, accusing him of rolling back democracy and suppressing human 
rights. By delivering the speech in Kazakhstan, the Bush administration 
was staking out U.S. influence in the region, where it has stepped up 
plans to build a pipeline that would bypass Iran and Russia.

On Tuesday, it was Putin's turn to put down his marker. On the first 
visit in 64 years by a Kremlin leader to Tehran, he met his Iranian 
counterpart, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose country faces a fresh round of 
sanctions by the United Nations if it does not comply with Security 
Council demands for reining in its nuclear program.

But while the standoff between Iran and the United Nations stole the 
limelight, the reason for Putin's visit was a summit meeting with 
Ahmadinejad and three Central Asian leaders who are now being wooed in 
the Caspian power game.

"The summit in Tehran was about the future status of the Caspian Sea," 
said Johannes Reissner, Middle East expert at the German Institute for 
International and Security Affairs in Berlin. "Iran and Russia have 
enormous interests in resolving this status. But there are major 
disagreements between them."

In addition to Iran and Russia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan 
also have Caspian coastlines. And while all of them want a large stake in 
the oil reserves, and to use of the sea for transportation, none of them 
have been able to agree on the status of the coveted waters.

Russia and Iran, historically, have agreed that the sea was a lake and 
that it should be shared equally between the two of them.

That all changed after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Iran and 
Russia wanted earlier agreements, signed in 1921 and in 1940, to 
continue. Moscow had obtained consent from the newly independent 
republics of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan that they would be 
bound by any agreements signed by the Soviet Union, of which they had 
been a part.

But in 1998, Azerbaijan declared that since the Caspian was an 
international lake, it should be recognized as such. In practice, this 
would mean that the surface and seabed would be divided into five sectors 
determined by the length of each country's shoreline. Under such a 
scenario, Russia would lose out, and Iran even more so.

Iran opposed this plan, since its share of the waters would be reduced to 
under 14 percent from about 20 percent, according to experts. As soon as 
Putin was elected president in 1998, he tried to break the deadlock to 
speed up energy links between Russia and the Central Asian countries and 
to pre-empt U.S. advances into the region.

Energy analysts said that Putin, seeing that the United States and other 
Western energy companies were eager to forge energy exploration contracts 
with Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan and to influence the Caspian negotiations, 
tried to find compromises among all the coastal states.

But attempts to determine the status of the Caspian have often proved 
hazardous.

In 2001, Iran deployed a warship and fighter jets as a warning to 
Azerbaijan, which had sent vessels to explore for oil for British 
Petroleum along the southern Caspian oilfields. Azerbaijan, which depends 
on Russia for energy transit routes, had agreed to forge a separate deal 
with Putin in which those two nations divided a part of the seabed. A 
similar deal was struck with Kazakhstan. In both cases, Iran was excluded 
from the negotiations.

"Over the past few years, Iran has felt increasingly isolated," said a 
European diplomat who requested anonymity because he was involved in the 
region. "It sees what Russia is doing. It is being excluded fr

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October 18, 2007
Iraqi Contracts With Iran and China Concern U.S. 
By JAMES GLANZ

BAGHDAD, Oct. 17 - Iraq has agreed to award $1.1 billion in contracts to 
Iranian and Chinese companies to build a pair of enormous power plants, 
the Iraqi electricity minister said Tuesday. Word of the project prompted 
serious concerns among American military officials, who fear that Iranian 
commercial investments can mask military activities at a time of 
heightened tension with Iran. 

The Iraqi electricity minister, Karim Wahid, said that the Iranian 
project would be built in Sadr City, a Shiite enclave in Baghdad that is 
controlled by followers of the anti-American cleric Moktada al-Sadr. He 
added that Iran had also agreed to provide cheap electricity from its own 
grid to southern Iraq, and to build a large power plant essentially free 
of charge in an area between the two southern Shiite holy cities of 
Karbala and Najaf.

The expansion of ties between Iraq and Iran comes as the United States 
and Iran clash on nuclear issues and about what American officials have 
repeatedly said is Iranian support for armed groups in Iraq. American 
officials have charged that Iranians, through the international military 
wing known as the Quds Force, are particularly active in support of elite 
elements of the Mahdi Army, a militia largely controlled by Mr. Sadr.

An American military official in Baghdad said that while he had no 
specific knowledge of the power plant contracts, any expansion of Iranian 
interests was a concern for the military here.

"We are of course carefully watching Iran´s overall presence here in 
Iraq," the military official said. "As you know, it´s not always as it 
appears. Their Quds Force routinely uses the cover of a business to mask 
their real purpose as an intelligence operative."

"This is a free marketplace, so there´s not much we can do about it," the 
official said.

At the same time, it is possible to view Iranian and Chinese investment 
as giving those countries a stake in Iraqi stability. The power plants 
could also boost a troubled reconstruction effort in Iraq. An American 
Embassy spokesman said, "We welcome any efforts to help develop Iraq´s 
energy infrastructure."

"These proposals reflect the ongoing business opportunities that are 
arising in Iraq that American firms should be competing for," said the 
spokesman, who asked not to be named because of standard protocol at the 
embassy. 

It was unclear whether any American firms had tried to win the work, 
although Mr. Wahid said the projects had been submitted for bids. The 
embassy spokesman said, "We are unaware of any violations of principles 
of open and fair bidding."

The agreements between Iraq and Iran come after the American-led 
reconstruction effort, which relied heavily on large American 
contractors, has spent nearly $5 billion of United States taxpayer money 
on Iraq´s electricity grid. Aside from a few isolated bright spots, there 
was little clear impact in a nation where in many places electricity is 
still available only for a few hours each day. Because the power plants 
are in largely Shiite-controlled areas, it is possible they may not face 
the same sectarian violence that crippled so many American rebuilding 
projects. 

Mr. Wahid did not say how much the plant between Karbala and Najaf would 
cost, but at standard international prices a plant of the scale he 
described would be worth roughly $200 million to $300 million.

The outlines of all three agreements were confirmed by Thamir Ghadban, an 
expert on energy who is also director of the committee of advisers to 
Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. But Mr. Ghadban said that the 
granting of the huge projects to rivals of the United States was not an 
indication that American companies were being excluded from consideration 
now that Iraqi oil revenues, which provide the basis for the Iraqi 
government´s budget, are largely paying for the reconstruction of the 
grid.

"There is no preference to the Iranians," Mr. Ghadban said, citing the 
most obvious potential point of sensitivity for the United States. "There 
is no opposition or stance from the Iraqi government to bar American or 
Western companies. It is the other way around," Mr. Ghadban said, 
indicating that he urged American contractors to bid for work in Iraq.

Of the two new projects Iraq has agreed to finance, Mr. Wahid said, the 
largest is a $940 million power plant in Wasit to be built by a Chinese 
company, which he said was named Shanghai Heavy Industry. That project 
would pump some 1,300 megawatts of electricity into the Iraqi grid. For 
comparison, all of the plants currently connected to Iraq´s grid produce 
a total of roughly 5,000 megawatts.

He said that Iraq had already

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[By going to the above linque, one can see where the Kurds and the city 
of Mosul intersect, ergo, where the 'tewwowists' and the Northern Iraqi 
oil centre meet.  Turkey has expressed over time the desire to reclaim 
the oil in the North.  Acting now, given the instability of the the rest 
of Iraq, the seizure of their desired slice of Iraq is time-critical.  
Kurdiland has been in a sort of holding position up until now, 'now' 
requiring action due to the unfulfilled promises of the 'COWs' (Coalition 
of the Willings) and the mayhem that is awaiting cooler weather.]


SPIEGEL ONLINE - October 18, 2007, 02:45 PM 
URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,512228,00.html 
THE WORLD FROM BERLIN
'Turkey Is Falling into the Terrorists' Trap'

The Turkish parliament voted Wednesday to empower the government to order 
a military incursion to root out Kurdish insurgents in northern Iraq. 
Some German commentators wonder if this is simply playing into the PKK's 
hands and if now is not the time to use politics instead of force.

AFP

Kurdish PKK militants in Northern Iraq.
Turkey's parliament approved a measure on Wednesday that clears the way 
for its military to cross Iraq's northern border to root out Kurdish 
insurgents there.

Wednesday's vote was emphatic, with 507 in favor and only 19 against. The 
government now has the green light for one year to order a military 
incursion into northern Iraq.

Prime Minister Recip Tayyip Erdogan had been under severe pressure to 
take action in the light of a series of deadly assaults by members of the 
separatist Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) which have killed 30 soldiers 
over the past two weeks.

Commentators in Germany assess the risks of a possible military incursion 
for Turkey -- and for Kurds in northern Iraq.

Left-leaning daily Die Tageszeitung writes:

"If Turkey marches into northern Iraq then it's already clear who will 
profit the most: the PKK."

"Naturally the state can't sit by and watch as the guerrillas kill dozens 
of soldiers, police officers and civilians. But it should be clear to 
political elites in Turkey that after spending 25 years trying to achieve 
a military victory over the PKK, with no avail, that political decisions 
are now required."

"The Kurds are still not treated as a group with equal rights, and there 
is still no substantial accommodation of the Kurds in the ongoing debate 
about a new constitution. That would be essential to isolate the PKK from 
the majority of Kurds and to deprive them of their political base."

"Instead, Turkey is falling for the PKK's escalation logic. Attacks are 
only to be met with military force, while Kurdish and Turkish nationalism 
provoke each other. An invasion of northern Iraq would finally transform 
a national conflict into an international crisis."

The Financial Times Deutschland writes:

"There is a danger that developments here could push the peaceful and 
prosperous northern Iraq into a new chaos."

"This can only be prevented if the US and Europe clearly signal to Turkey 
that they take the PKK problem seriously, and will contribute to its 
solution  An incursion into northern Iraq could lead to a string of 
new conflicts, particularly if the well-armed Iraqi Kurds perceive it as 
interfering in their affairs."

"A unilateral Turkish invasion has to be prevented. But that will only 
succeed if the US and Europe offer political help in eradicating the PKK 
... The Europeans should bear in mind that this is about a region that at 
some point could form the external borders of the EU."

The conservative Die Welt writes:

"The Turkish concerns are justified. A sovereign state cannot accept 
resistance fighters like the PKK entrenching themselves long-term in the 
Iraqi mountains and preparing attacks on Turkish soil."

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"The current alarm is not just about Ankara's justified wish to better 
protect itself from terrorism. The increasingly pronounced Kurdish 
nationalism in northern Iraq is a thorn in Turkey's side. It is directed 
at Turkey as well as the central Iraqi government."

"The Kurds have so far made clever use of their historic opportunity ... 
Now they have to remain clever and take care not to endanger their own 
project ... The regional government in northern Iraq has to do more 
against Kurdish extremists, and would do well to discourage their 
nationalist rhetoric. The Turks know an invasion would only cause them 
difficulties. But the Kurds would be better off trying not to provoke 
it."

The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes:

"The only people who will be happy are the fighters in the PKK terror 
group ... The aged guerrill

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*The Most Dreaded Enemy of Liberty*
By James Madison

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded,
because it comprises and develops the germ of every other.  War is the parent of
armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are
the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.  In
war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in
dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of
seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. ...
[There is also an] inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud,
growing out of a state of war, and ... degeneracy of manners and of morals. ...
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. ...

[It should be well understood] that the powers proposed to be surrendered [by 
the
Third Congress] to the Executive were those which the Constitution has most
jealously appropriated to the Legislature. . . .

The Constitution expressly and exclusively vests in the Legislature the power of
declaring a state of war ... the power of raising armies ... the power of
creating offices. ...

A delegation of such powers [to the President] would have struck, not only at 
the
fabric of our Constitution, but at the foundation of all well organized and well
checked governments.

The separation of the power of declaring war from that of conducting it, is
wisely contrived to exclude the danger of its being declared for the sake of its
being conducted.

The separation of the power of raising armies from the power of commanding them,
is intended to prevent the raising of armies for the sake of commanding them.

The separation of the power of creating offices from that of filling them, is an
essential guard against the temptation to create offices for the sake of
gratifying favourites or multiplying dependents.

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*The Real Iraq We Knew* 
By 12 former Army Captains  
10/16/07 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/15/AR2007101500841.html


"Washington Post" -- Today marks five years since the authorization of military
force in Iraq, setting Operation Iraqi Freedom in motion.  Five years on, the
Iraq war is as undermanned and under-resourced as it was from the start.  And,
five years on, Iraq is in shambles.

As Army captains who served in Baghdad and beyond, we've seen the corruption and
the sectarian division.  We understand what it's like to be stretched too thin. 
And we know when it's time to get out.

What does Iraq look like on the ground? It's certainly far from being a modern,
self-sustaining country.  Many roads, bridges, schools and hospitals are in
deplorable condition.  Fewer people have access to drinking water or sewage
systems than before the war.  And Baghdad is averaging less than eight hours of
electricity a day.

Iraq's institutional infrastructure, too, is sorely wanting.  Even if the Iraqis
wanted to work together and accept the national identity foisted upon them in
1920s, the ministries do not have enough trained administrators or technicians 
to
coordinate themselves.  At the local level, most communities are still 
controlled
by the same autocratic sheiks that ruled under Saddam.  There is no reliable
postal system.  No effective banking system.  No registration system to monitor
the population and its needs.

The inability to govern is exacerbated at all levels by widespread corruption. 
Transparency International ranks Iraq as one of the most corrupt countries in 
the
world.  And, indeed, many of us witnessed the exploitation of U.S. tax dollars 
by
Iraqi officials and military officers.  Sabotage and graft have had a
particularly deleterious impact on Iraq's oil industry, which still fails to
produce the revenue that Pentagon war planners hoped would pay for Iraq's
reconstruction.  Yet holding people accountable has proved difficult.  The

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In The Kingdom of Fear
By Sheila Samples
10/16/07 

"You're A Whole Different Person When You're Scared"-- Warren Zevon, Hunter S.
Thompson

"ICH " -- My friend Bernie says since Democrats won the Congress, George Bush
reminds him of a cartoon where this destructive Texas jackrabbit was careening
headlong down a path, his eyes riveted on a rabbit hole in the distance.  A
tortoise, sunning himself at the side of the path, looked behind the rabbit 
where
a baying pack of dogs, in hot pursuit, was gaining on him.  The tortoise smiled.
 The poor bunny was in a race for his life.  As he shot by, the tortoise called
out lazily, "Think you'll make it?"  The rabbit, looking neither to the right 
nor
left, shot back desperately -- "I gotta make it..."

Bernie says Bush is running scared.  So scared he's "pantin' like a lizard..."

Pantin' like a lizard?  Hah.  Having been raised in New Mexico with me, Bernie
should know that Bush is panting because, well, that's what lizards do...
Especially the venomous gila monsters, who are fun to chase, but only a fool
would try to catch one.  That's why the few Democrats out there who appear to be
chasing Bush are, in reality, just trotting along in his wake.  I suspect they
fear the holocaust he is capable of inflicting if they catch him.

For six long years, Bush has "water-boarded" all who oppose him -- especially
those in Congress -- with a steady stream of 9/11.  Each speech is laced with
visions of 9/11 -- 9/11 horror just over the horizon, 9/11 around each corner,
9/11 behind each tree. "Fear Itself" is the only option on the Bush-Cheney 
table,
and they have used it relentlessly, not only to wage genocidal war in order to
gain control of the world's resources, but to seize dictatorial power and to
control the quivering masses.  Constant and repetitive warnings and false-flag
alerts, evidence of plotters and planners skulking among us, hateful ideologies
swirling above us like mushroom clouds -- is it any wonder our elected
representatives, once inside the Kingdom of Fear, lose all sense of direction,
the ability to reason?

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Head of U.S. counterterrorism agency resigns
 
17 Oct 2007 18:35:16 GMT

Source: Reuters
 
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WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Vice Adm. John Redd, the head of the U.S. 
agency responsible for analyzing intelligence on terrorism and developing 
counterterrorism strategies, announced his resignation on Wednesday. 

 
Redd, first director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said in a 
letter to staff he was stepping down as of Nov. 10 for "long-delayed surgery 
which 
I can no longer neglect."  
Redd needs replacement surgery on both knees, which would require a prolonged 
absence if he were to stay as director, center spokesman Carl Kropf said.  
The counterterrorism center was created in 2004 as part of an overhaul of 
U.S. intelligence and security agencies after the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001. It 
serves as a clearing-house for intelligence on terrorism, produces daily 
intelligence reports and develops strategy for counterterrorism operations.  
Redd, 63, has served as head of the center since August 2005.  
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Bush warns Putin:
'World War Three'

By Matthew Moore and Adrian Blomfield


The Telegraph (UK), 6:57pm BST 17/10/2007


 
 
_http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/17/wwar117.xml_ 
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President George W Bush today warned that world leaders risk helping bring 
about "World War Three" unless they do more to prevent Iran developing nuclear 
weapons. 
In remarks timed to coincide with _Russian president Vladimir Putin's visit 
to Teheran_ 
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=0IBVFXWWRKGU1QFIQMGCFFWAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/10/17/wputin117.xml)
 , Mr Bush said the 
Islamic republic must remain isolated until it drops its nuclear ambitions.
 

   
New best friends: Vladimir Putin and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after their meeting 
in Teheran 
"We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy 
Israel," Mr Bush told a White House press conference. 
"So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War Three, 
it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the 
knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon." 
Mr Bush's pointed statement follows the warm words exchanged by Mr Putin and 
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, at an historic summit in Teheran 
this week. 
After their meeting Mr Putin repeated Moscow's line that there is no evidence 
to suggest Iran wants to build a nuclear bomb, and pledged to continue 
helping the country develop its civil nuclear technology. 
As the _first Kremlin leader to visit Iran since Josef Stalin in 1943_ 
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=0IBVFXWWRKGU1QFIQMGCFFWAVCBQUI
V0?xml=/news/2007/10/15/wputin415.xml) , he also secured the vital backing of 
Azerbaijan in a five-nation pact by the Caspian states to prevent the US from 
using the region as a staging ground for military action against Iran. 
Mr Bush added today that he had no doubts that Russia appreciated the dangers 
of a nuclear Iran. 
But he said that he wished to speak to Mr Putin about his meeting with 
Ayatollah Khamenei, the supreme Iranian leader, during which he is said to have 
suggested a new proposal to end the nuclear stand-off. 
"I'm looking forward to getting President Putin's read-out from the meeting," 
Mr Bush said. 
"The thing I'm interested in is whether or not he continues to harbour the 
same concerns that I do. 
"I will continue to work with Russia as well as other nations to keep a 
focused effort on sending Iran a message that you will remain isolated if you 
continue your nuclear weapons ambitions." 
Although Russia lent its reluctant backing to two United Nations resolutions 
imposing sanctions on Iran, it has been stridently opposed to escalating the 
penalties after Teheran refused to stop its uranium enrichment programme.  
Among Western diplomats, opinion is divided as to whether Russia — which has 
little to gain from a nuclear Iran — w_ill eventually acquiesce_ 
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=0IBVFXWWRKGU1QFIQMGCFFWAVCBQUIV0?xml=
/news/2007/07/03/wbush103.xml) .  
Emboldened by its vast energy resources and desperate to reclaim its status 
as a global power, Russia could also stand to gain by seeing the United States 
dragged into a new, controversial and potentially debilitating Middle East 
conflict. 
 
The United States has said it is pursuing a diplomatic approach to Iran, 
including the threat of a new round of United Nations sanctions, but has 
refused 
to rule out military action to halt Iran's nuclear program, which it believes 
might be used covertly to develop nuclea

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Alabama Reopening Fallout Shelters

By JAY REEVES
AP, 2007-09-28 00:10:29
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HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (Sept. 27) - In an age of al-Qaida, sleeper cells and the 
threat of nuclear terrorism, Huntsville is dusting off its Cold War manual to 
create the nation's most ambitious fallout-shelter plan, featuring an abandoned 
mine big enough for 20,000 people to take cover underground. 



 
 
 


 
 

A fallout shelter sign is seen Sept. 19 in Huntsville, Ala. Fearing a nuclear 
strike by terrorists, officials are working to identify potential shelters 
for 300,000 people in the city and surrounding county. 
 
Others would hunker down in college dorms, churches, libraries and research 
halls that planners hope will bring the community's shelter capacity to 
300,000, or space for every man, woman and child in Huntsville and the 
surrounding 
county. 

Emergency planners in Huntsville - an out-of-the-way city best known as the 
home of _NASA_ (javascript:;)  's Marshall Space Flight Center - say the idea 
makes sense because radioactive fallout could be scattered for hundreds of 
miles if terrorists detonated a nuclear bomb. 

''If Huntsville is in the blast zone, there's not much we can do. But if it's 
just fallout ... shelters would absorb 90 percent of the radiation,'' said 
longtime emergency management planner Kirk Paradise, whose Cold War expertise 
with fallout shelters led local leaders to renew Huntsville's program. 

Huntsville's project, developed using $70,000 from a Homeland Security grant, 
goes against the grain because the United States essentially scrapped its 
national plan for fallout shelters after the collapse of the Soviet Union. 
_Congress_ (javascript:;)   cut off funding and the government published its 
last 
list of approved shelters at the end of 1992. 

After Sept. 11, Homeland Security created a metropolitan protection program 
that includes nuclear-attack preparation and mass shelters. But no other city 
has taken the idea as far as Huntsville has, officials said. 

Many cities advise residents to stay at home and seal up a room with plastic 
and duct tape during a biological, chemical or nuclear attack. Huntsville does 
too, in certain cases. 

Local officials agree the ''shelter-in-place'' method would be best for a 
''dirty bomb'' that scattered nuclear contamination through conventional 
explosives. But they say full-fledged shelters would be needed to protect from 
the 
fallout of a nuclear bomb. 

Program leaders recently briefed members of Congress, including Rep. Charlie 
Dent, R-Pa., who called the shelter plan an example of the ''all-hazards'' 
approach needed for emergency preparedness. 

''Al-Qaida, we know, is interested in a nuclear capability. It's our nation's 
fear that a nuclear weapon could get into terrorists' hands,'' Dent said. 

As fallout shelters go, the Three Caves Quarry just outside downtown offers 
the kind of protection that would make Dr. Strangelove proud, with space for an 
arena-size crowd of some 20,000 people. 

Last mined in the early '50s, the limestone quarry is dug 300 yards into the 
side of the mountain, with ceilings as high as 60 feet and 10 acres of floor 
space covered with jagged rocks. Jet-black in places with a year-round 
temperature of about 60 degrees, it has a colony of bats living in its highest 
reaches 
and baby stalactites hanging from the ceiling. 

''It would be a little trying, but

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FBI Puts Antiwar Protesters  
in Criminal Database;  
Canada Uses It to Ban Protesters from Entry 
by _Rob Kall_ (http://www.opednews.com/author/author2.html)
October 7, 2007 at 09:16:55  
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Two well-respected US peace activists, CODEPINK and Global Exchange cofounder 
Medea Benjamin and retired Colonel and diplomat Ann Wright, were denied entry 
into Canada o issues at the invitation of the Toronto Stop the War Coalition. 
At the Buffalo-Niagara Falls Bridge they were detained, questioned and denied 
entry.

"In my case, the border guard pulled up a file showing that I had been 
arrested at the US Mission to the UN where, on International Women's Day, a 
group of 
us had tried to deliver a peace petition signed by 152,000 women around the 
world," says Benjamin. "For this, the Canadians labeled me a criminal and 
refused to allow me in the country." 

"The FBI's placing of peace activists on an international criminal database 
is blatant political intimidation of US citizens opposed to Bush administration 
policies," says Colonel Wright, who was also Deputy US Ambassador in four 
countries. "The Canadian government should certainly not accept this FBI 
database 
as the criteria for entering the country." 
 
Both Wright and Benjamin plan to request their files from the FBI through the 
Freedom of Information Act and demand that arrests for peaceful, non-violent 
actions be expunged from international records. "It's outrageous that Canada 
is turning away peacemakers protesting a war that does not have the support of 
either US or Canadian citizens," says Benjamin.

"In the past, Canada has always welcomed peace activists with open arms. This 
new policy, obviously a creature of the Bush administration, is shocking and 
we in the US and Canada must insist that it be overturned. Four members of the 
Canadian Parliament--Peggy Nash, Libby Davies, Paul Dewar and Peter Julian-- 
expressed outrage that the peace activists were barred from Canada and vow to 
change this policy.

Ann Wright told OpEdNews that this was the second time the two Code Pink 
activists had been turned away from the border, the first event ocurring on 
August 
19th. 

Wright explained, "We decided to go to Canadian border to push the envelope 
to see if the Canadian Gov would not let us into Canada again until we had been 
"criminally rehabilitated." 



Wright told OpEdNews "We were told (by the Canadian border agents) if we 
tried to enter Canada again, we would be officially deported from the country, 
which is "big trouble. 'We've warned you not to come back until you are 
criminally rehabilitated.'
 
To be criminally rehabilitated, they would have to do a huge amount of 
paperwork and state they were no longer going to commit the "crimes" they were 
convicted of.

Wright asserted, "We will never be criminally rehabilitated since we intend 
to continue to engage in non-violent peaceful protest of Bush administration 
policies, particular the war on Iraq and we intend to peacefully and 
nonviolently protest all of these until they end. They can lead to arrests for 
civil 
disobedience, like refusing to move from the fence in front of the White House 
or 
standing up and speaking at Congre

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NIST Admits Total Collapse Of Twin Towers Unexplainable
Implicitly acknowledges controlled demolition only means by which towers 
could have fallen at free fall speed
 
Paul Joseph Watson
_Prison Planet_ (http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html) , October 16, 2007 
_http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/161007_nist_admits.htm_ 
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The National Institute for Standards and Technology has been forced to admit 
that the total free-fall collapse of the twin towers cannot be explained after 
an exhaustive scientific study, implicitly acknowledging that controlled 
demolition is the only means by which the buildings could have come down. 
In a recent letter (_PDF link_ (http://www.911proof.com/NIST.pdf) ) to 9/11 
victim's family representatives Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine, NIST states, "We 
are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse." 
A 10,000 page scientific study only offers theories as to how the "collapse 
initiation" proceeded and fails to address how it was possible for part of a 
WTC structure to fall through the path of most resistance at freefall speed, 
completely violating the accepted laws of physics.  
 
 
In addition, NIST's own studies confirmed that virtually none of the steel in 
either tower reached temperatures hotter than 500 degrees. The point at which 
steel weakens is 1000 degrees and melting point is reached at 1,500 degrees, 
according to NIST itself.



 
"NIST'S 10,000-page report purports to explain what it calls "collapse 
initiation" -- the loss of several floors' vertical support," writes Kevin 
Barrett 
of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "In order to dream up this preposterous scenario, 
NIST had to ignore its own tests that showed that virtually none of the steel 
got hotter than 500 degrees f. It had to claim that somehow the planes took out 
many core columns, despite the fact that only a direct hit by an engine would 
have been likely to do so, and that the chances of this happening even once 
are fairly low. It had to preposterously allege that the plane that nicked the 
corner of the South Tower took out more core columns than the one that hit the 
North Tower almost dead center. It had to tweak all the parameters till they 
screamed bloody murder and say that the steel was far weaker than it actually 
was, the fire was far hotter than it actually was, the sagging was far greater 
than it actually was, and so on. And so NIST hallucinated a 
computer-generated fantasy scenario for "collapse initiation"--the failure of a 
few floors." 
"But how do you get from the failure of a few floors to total collapse at 
free-fall speed of the entire structure? The short answer: You don't. Anyone 
with 
the slightest grasp of the laws of physics understands that even if all of 
the vertical supports on a few floors somehow failed catastrophically at 
exactly 
the same moment--a virtually impossible event, but one necessary to explain 
why the Towers would come straight down rather than toppling sideways--the top 
part of the building could not fall THROUGH the still-intact, highly robust 
lower part of the building, straight through the path of most resistance, just 
as fast as it would have fallen through thin air." 
"Thus total free-fall collapse, even given NIST's ridiculous "initiation" 
scenario, is utterly impossible. The probability of it happening is exactly 
equal 
to the probability of the whole building suddenly falling upward and landing 
on the moon," concludes Barrett.

 
NIST have yet to properly address the sudden freefall collapse of WTC 
Building 7, which imploded on

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When America Went Fascist
by _Chris Rowthorn_ (http://www.smirkingchimp.com/user/chris_rowthorn)  | Sep 
25 2007 - 9:48am |   
_http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/10121_ 
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"Fascism: a system of government marked by centralization of authority under 
a dictator"
-- The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 
2000 
It is a truism in the blogosphere that one more terrorist attack will turn 
America into a fascist state. People speculate about what fascism in America 
will look like, or how they might fight it. Others boast that they plan to flee 
the country ahead of the coming fascist takeover of the United States. One 
cannot read these posts without a sense of bitter irony, because one thing is 
clear to those who are watching carefully: 
The United States of America is already a fascist state. 
The United States turned fascist on December 11, 2000. On that day, the 
Supreme Court essentially appointed George W. Bush president of the United 
States, 
stopping the recount of Florida votes, and, hence, the democratic process. The 
justices of the court then slipped away by night, ashamed of their role in 
murdering America's great experiment in democratic rule. 
The Supreme Court decision of December 11, 2000 is the modern American 
equivalent to German President Hindenburg's swearing in of Hitler as chancellor 
of 
Germany on January 30, 1933. By swearing in Hitler as chancellor, Hindenburg 
set in motion a process which led to the Nazi dictatorship and World War II. In 
the case of the Nazis, the Reichstag fire of February 27, 1933 was the 
catalyst they needed to cement their grip on power. In the case of Bush and his 
backers, the tragedy of September 11, 2001 was the catalyst they needed to 
complete 
their full takeover of the American government. 
When one looks at present-day America and reads plaintive musings about if 
and when America will turn fascist, it is useful to ask oneself the following 
question: When do you think the average German realized that he or she was 
living under a fascist dictatorship? How about the Japanese or Italians of the 
same 
period? Do you think that Hitler, Mussolini or Tojo made a public 
announcement to the effect of, "Dear Citizens: Please be advised that you no 
longer have 
any rights or political power. We have taken control of the government. 
Opposition and resistance are futile and will be punished."   
The fact is, most of the "good" citizens of these countries clung desperately 
to the notion that it was business as usual long after constitutional 
government was dead and buried. Sure, they knew that their governments were a 
little 
further to the right than normal, but as long as they kept earning money and 
eating well, they ignored the grim realities of fascism. 
It's easy to understand why: the "good" citizens weren't members of 
officially scapegoated groups or political activists, and thus they never felt 
the iron 
first of fascism. It's not like the government just suddenly started rounding 
up people at random and trucking them off to camps and executing them. No, it 
was only the "bad ones" who were carted off. It was the John Walker Lindhs, 
the Jose Padillas, the illegal immigrants and the Muslim Americans of their day 
who were carted off. 
In fact, for the average citizen of Germany, Japan or Italy, it was only when 
the military adventures of their fascist governments started to go seriously 
awry did the reality dawn on them. Until then, if anything, they merely felt 
the stirrings of extreme patriotism and perhaps even satisfaction as their 
countries expanded outward. Indeed, f

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Inquiry urged on Hunt Oil contract in Iraq
Democrats say Bush ties may have led to Iraq oil contract
10:48 PM CDT on Monday, October 15, 2007
By DAVE MICHAELS / The Dallas Morning News 
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WASHINGTON – Democratic lawmakers moved Monday toward investigating Hunt 
Oil's oil exploration contract in Iraq, saying the company's ties to President 
Bush raised questions about whether it had insider information that helped it 
reach the deal.  
U.S. Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform 
Committee, and U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, asked Hunt to turn over all 
Iraq-related communication with the U.S. government by Nov. 2.  
The lawmakers also demanded that Ray Hunt, Hunt Oil's chief executive, submit 
copies of information he may have received about Iraq as a member of Mr. 
Bush's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board.  
A Hunt spokeswoman said the company would cooperate with the request for 
"certain limited information."  
Spokeswoman Jeanne Phillips said the company's judgment to explore for oil in 
the Kurdish region of Iraq was made without U.S. government advice.  
"As we have stated before, our policy as a company is to act independently 
when determining where to explore for oil and gas around the world," Ms. 
Phillips said in a prepared statement.  
Mr. Hunt, 64, has not talked about his service on the intelligence board, 
which meets about six times a year. Its members, all presidential appointees, 
have security clearances, and much of their work is classified.  
Former board members and intelligence experts said its members don't often 
deal with specific intelligence.  
Instead, they focus on broader concerns, such as whether one agency is 
cooperating with another or how a training program is working.  
"Their job is to advise the president about the efficiency of the 
intelligence systems and where things need to be changed," said Arthur S. 
Hulnick, a CIA 
veteran who is now an associate professor of international relations at Boston 
University.  
"It is more management than substantive."  
That said, members must study intelligence-gathering efforts if they are 
expected to judge how the system works, Mr. Hulnick said.  
"They clearly have to see it – things like estimates and daily reports, 
finished intelligence and analyzed intelligence," he said.  
Although Mr. Waxman's committee has subpoena power, the lawmakers did not 
indicate whether they would compel Hunt officials to testify.  
"We are in the information-gathering stage," said Natalie Laber, a 
spokeswoman for Mr. Kucinich. "Before we hold hearings, we gather information." 
 
Mr. Waxman, D-Calif., has held a series of contentious, Iraq-related hearings 
in recent months, including one at which Democrats grilled Blackwater, the 
State Department's private security contractor. Members also investigated 
corruption in the Iraqi government.  
Last month, Mr. Bush said he was concerned about Hunt's deal if it 
jeopardized Iraq's ability to pass a national oil-sharing law. In their letter 
to Hunt, 
Mr. Waxman and Mr. Kucinich asserted that Hunt's deal "may have undermined 
U.S. national policy of working toward the passage of an oil revenue sharing 
plan."  
Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's oil minister has called Hunt's deal 
illegal. Congressional Democrats have jumped into the fray, saying Hunt Oil 
signed its deal with the Kurdistan Regional Government because it has insider 
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_http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/an_embattled_bus
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An embattled Bush: 'I've never felt more engaged'
 
 
 
(http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/Bush%20at%20oct%2017%202007%20press%20conference)
 
Bush at today's press conference. AP photo by Ron Edmonds.  

by Mark Silva



 
“I believe (Iran wants) to have capacity, the knowledge, to have a nuclear 
weapon,’’ Bush said. “And I believe it’s in the world’s interest to keep them 
from doing so… We’ve got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to 
destroy Israel. It seems like, if you’re interested in avoiding World War III, 
you ought to be interested in preventing them from having a nuclear weapon.’’
 
As for Putin’s plans to remain [in office but] as prime minister: 
"I've been planning that myself,'' Bush joked.

“I have no idea what he’s going to do,’’ Bush said in a more serious vein. “
I asked him when I saw him in Australia… I tried to get it out of him. He was 
wily. He wouldn’t tip his hand… I’ll tip mine. I’m going to work hard to 
the finish. I’m going to sprint to the finish line, and then you’ll find me in 
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So far, no sign that Obama is related to Hillary
September 9, 2007
BY _SCOTT FORNEK_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  Political Editor
_http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/familytree/545460,BSX-News-wotree
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It sure would be an awkward family reunion. But, believe it or not, Barack 
Obama is related to both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.  
OK, distantly related: Obama and Bush are 11th cousins.  
That's because they share the same 
great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents -- 
Samuel Hinckley and Sarah Soole Hinckley of 
17th century Massachusetts.  
That means Obama and former President George Herbert Walker Bush are 10th 
cousins once removed.  
Obama is related to Cheney through Mareen Duvall, a 17th century immigrant 
from France.  
Mareen and Susannah Duvall were Obama's 
great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents and Cheney's 
great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents.  
That makes Obama and Cheney ninth cousins once removed.  
Cheney and Bush are related to one another by a completely different common 
ancestor.  
We leave it to you to figure out their relationship.  
- 
from "The Illuminoids," by Neil Wilgus, 1978, Sun Publishing (Pocket Books 
NY) 
In his expose of the Great Seal, [William Guy] Carr [in
"Pawns of the Game"] implies that there is something suspicious
about the fact that [John] Adams, who supposedly helped design
the [Great Seal of the United States], and [Franklin D.]
Roosevelt, who put it on the dollar bill, were related.
If this is evidence of an Illuminati conspiracy, as Carr
would have it, then a glance at the _Yipster Times_, Fall/Winter
1975, should provide enough evidence to cinch the case: "How to
Become President Without Really Trying," by Michael P. is an eye-
opening report on the genealogical research done by Michael P.
Merlie at the University of Wisconsin. 
<"The First Family: Presidential Kinship and Its Theoretical  
  Implications," Michael P. Merlie and Edward T. 
Silva> 
Of the 37 presidents before Jimmy Carter (39th because
Grover Cleveland is counted twice) 21 were close relatives,
Merlie shows.  And this doesn't include the related-by-marriage
link between Richard Nixon and the Eisenhower family, or, through
Nixon's other daughter, linkage to the Cox and Livingston clans
and President James Monroe, Zachary Taylor and Taylor's third
cousin, James Madison.  The same family tree can also claim the
president of the Confederacy, Merlie reports, because Jefferson
Davis was Zachary Taylor's son-in-law.
Following Carr's implied line of reasoning, this would link
Nixon with the Illuminati since Monroe, Merlie says, is related
to the Adamses and the Roosevelts through a minister named Thomas
Shephard.  And there are other families which also produced
multiple presidents, including the three cousins, Franklin
Pierce, James Garfield and Grover Cleveland.  In the 224
ancestors and descendants needed to connect he 21 presidents,
Merlie found 13 Roosevelts, 14 Tylers and 16 Coolidges as well as
numerous Clevelands and other upper-crust families.
Perhaps the most impressive family tree, however, is the one
which includes Thomas Jefferson (Carr's other Illuminati) and
William Henry Harrison, whom Merlie says were very near cousins. 
Jefferson and Harrison, along with Andrew Jackson and John Tyler,
were descended from the same man -- William Armistead, a large
Virginia landholder of the 1600s.  In add

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[[Just NOW he's figuring this out, for chrissake!!??  GD pathetic... like the 
(PR
flak BS 'reply'/s I got from Feinstein (Sen. Itel Comm., right) re: 911 and the
(alleged) 'Partiot' Act (which she et al hadn't read, of course) BEFORE voting
FOR it!!  She's on that Comm. and doesn't have the sense to know or question. 
Ridiculous, and we're F**ked!!]]

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18456.htm   
'A Coup Has Occurred'
By Daniel Ellsberg
09/26/07 

"ICH" -- September 26, 2007 (Text of a speech delivered September 20, 2007) -- I
think nothing has higher priority than averting an attack on Iran, which I think
will be accompanied by a further change in our way of governing here that in
effect will convert us into what I would call a police state.

If there's another 9/11 under this regime … it means that they switch on full
extent all the apparatus of a police state that has been patiently constructed,
largely secretly at first but eventually leaked out and known and accepted by 
the
Democratic people in Congress, by the Republicans and so forth.

Will there be anything left for N.S.A. to increase its surveillance of us? … 
They may be to the limit of their technical capability now, or they may not.  
But
if they’re not now they will be after another 9/11.

And I would say after the Iranian retaliation to an American attack on Iran, you
will then see an increased attack on Iran -- an escalation -- which will be also
accompanied by a total suppression of dissent in this country, including
detention camps.

It's a little hard for me to distinguish the two contingencies; they could come
together.  Another 9/11 or an Iranian attack in which Iran's reaction against
Israel, against our shipping, against our troops in Iraq above all, possibly in
this country, will justify the full panoply of measures that have been prepared
now, legitimized, and to some extent written into law.  …

This is an unusual gang, even for Republicans. [But] I think that the successors
to this regime are not likely to roll back the assault on the Constitution.  
They
will take advantage of it, they will exploit it.

Will Hillary Clinton as president decide to turn off N.S.A. after the last five
years of illegal surveillance?  Will she deprive her administration he

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Giuliani: Preparedness key, even if aliens attack
By The Associated Press  |  October 14, 2007 
_http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2007/10/14/giuliani_p
reparedness_key_even_if_aliens_attack/_ 
(http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2007/10/14/giuliani_preparedness_key_even_if_aliens_attack/
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EXETER, N.H. --Presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani on Sunday said preparedness 
will be key for all crises, even an attack from outer space. 
 
 
During a town hall meeting in Exeter, a young questioner asked the former New 
York mayor about his plan to protect Earth.


"If (there's) something living on another planet and it's bad and it comes 
over here, what would you do?" the boy asked. 
Giuliani, grin on his face, said it was the first time he's been asked about 
an intergalactic attack. 
"Of all the things that can happen in this world, we'll be prepared for that, 
yes we will. We'll be prepared for anything that happens," said Giuliani, who 
spent the day campaigning in key early voting state. 
Being prepared is a theme that runs through the campaign of Giuliani, the 
mayor during the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in New York. 
The boy's question let Giuliani take a lighthearted turn as he wrapped up his 
answer on emergency preparedness. 
"This could be the new Steven Spielberg," he said. "You want to be a science 
fiction writer or a scientist?" 
The boy replied he wants to be a sculptor. 
Then Giuliani asked the audience for another question: "Shall we take one 
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Detailed Strike-on-Iran Plan Revealed 
Monday, October 01, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com
_http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Seymour_Hersh_War_with_Iran_will_0930.html_ 
(http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Seymour_Hersh_War_with_Iran_will_0930.html) 

The only thing different about the Bush Administration's rhetoric about Iran 
and statements made regarding Iraq before the US invasion in 2003 are the 
words chosen, says journalist Seymour Hersh. 
"They've only changed their rhetoric. The name of the game used to be nuclear 
threat," Hersh said on CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer, adding a moment 
later, "They've come to the realization that it's not selling, it isn't 
working. The American people aren't worried about Iran as a nuclear threat 
certainly 
as they were about Iraq. So they've switched, really." 
The Bush Administration is all but set to authorize a campaign of limited, 
surgical airstrikes against Iranian targets, Hersh reports in the New Yorker's 
latest edition. 
"Instead of hitting the various [nuclear] facilities we know that exist, 
instead they're going to hit the Iranians as payback for hitting us [in Iraq]," 
Hersh told Blitzer in the CNN interview. 
Such targets, Hersh says, would include Iran's Revolutionary Guard 
headquarters and other sites of Iran's alleged support for the insurgency in 
Iraq. 
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Israel unhappy with U.S. plan for Iran
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The United States reportedly has a plan for attacking Iran, but Israel 
considers it insufficient. 
The Bush administration this summer revived a long-standing contingency plan 
for military strikes against Iran with a view to retaliating for Tehran's 
support for the Iraqi insurgency, the New Yorker magazine reported in its 
latest 
edition. 
According to correspondent Seymour Hersh, the plan was shared with U.S. 
allies including Israel, which raised objections to the relative lack of 
Iranian 
nuclear facilities on a target roster that instead focused on military training 
camps. 
But Hersh quoted a former U.S. official as saying that Israel was reassured 
"that the more limited target list would still serve the goal of 
counter-proliferation by decapitating the leadership of the Revolutionary 
Guards, who are 
believed to have direct control over the nuclear-research program." 
 
After Navy hostage humiliation, Britain 'on board' for US air strikes on Iran 
Last updated at 13:44pm on 1st October 2007  
_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article
_id=485018_ 
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Britain is ready to sign up to a bombing campaign on Iran as revenge for the 
"shame" of the Navy hostage taking, it was claimed today.  
According to an investigation by leading American journalist Seymour Hersh, 
the UK is poised to join any US-led action against the rogue state.  
In an in-depth report, numerous American sources are quoted as saying 
President George Bush is gearing up for "surgical" bombing raids which would 
target 
Revolutionary Guard bases and anti-aircraft surface-to-air missiles inside 
Iran.  
 
United: Gordon Brown is said to back George Bush
And, according to one senior European official, Gordon Brown has given the 
bombing plan the most positive reception.  
"The British perception is that the Iranians are not making the progress they 
want to see in their nuclear-enrichment processi

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Author Daniel Estulin is visiting Canada and New York this October. Several 
public events are planned. Please come and meet Danny.
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[cia-drugs] Hillary Clinton flew on plane owned by company linked to CIA renditions and organized crime

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http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20071015

Hillary Clinton flew on plane owned by company linked to CIA renditions and 
organized crime


 publication date: Oct 15, 2007




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 October 15, 2007 -- Hillary Clinton flew on plane owned by company linked to 
CIA renditions and organized crime
 On September 24, 2007, a Gulfstream II (tail number N987SA) crashed landed 
in Yucatan, Mexico with 3.3 metric tons (3.7 tons) of cocaine on board. The 
plane had recently been sold to Donna Blue Aircraft, Inc. of Coconut Creek, 
Florida, a firm owned by two Brazilians, and re-sold, shortly before the crash, 
to 
two Florida businessmen. N987SA had also flown patterns to and from Guantanamo 
Bay similar to those flown by CIA rendition aircraft
 Before being sold to Donna Blue, the Gulfstream had been owned by Air Rutter 
International, a firm with offices in Garden City, New York; Long Beach and 
Irvine, California, whose owner is Arik Kislin, the son of Sam Kislin. N987SA 
was owned by Kislin's business partner, William Achenbaum, an owner, along with 
Arik Kislin, of Manhattan's Hotel Gansevoort. Air Rutter leased out the 
aircraft.
 WMR has learned that another Air Rutter Gulfstream II (tail number N216RR) 
has flown presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton, including a January 
2007 stop in Des Moines, Iowa. The plane, which has a crew of 3, including 
a jump seat for a flight attendant, and can handle up to 13 passengers, has a 
fully 
galley, a private lavatory, plush leather seats, conference seats and table, 
CD/DVD entertainment system, a 21 inch monitor, satellite telephone system, 
and even an espresso machine.
 On October 9, 2007, WMR reported:

 Arik's uncle, Semyon (Sam) Kislin, a member of the New York City Economic 
Development Board and immigrant from Odessa, has poured substantial political 
donations into the past campaigns in New York of Hillary Clinton and [Rudolph] 
Giuliani. He has also contributed to past campaigns of New York Senator Charles 
Schumer, former Republican Senator Alphonse D'Amato, and President Bill 
Clinton.
 The Center for Public Integrity has previously reported that a 1996 Interpol 
report connected Sam Kislin's Trans Commodities, Inc. to two reputed Uzbek 
mobsters, Lev and Mikhail Chernoy. The Interpol connected Kislin's firm to the 
Chernoys' fraud and embezzlement schemes. Kislin confirmed that Mikhail Chernoy 
had been employed by his Trans Commodities firm. The Chernoy brothers are 
citizens of Israel. [The Chenoys have been linked to a worldwide empire of 
front 
companies and corporate shells in Monaco, the Bahamas, Cyprus, Switzerland, 
Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Israel, the Cayman Islands, Western Samoa, London, Isle of 
Man, Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Brighton Beach (Brooklyn), 
Liechtenstein, and Vanuatu].
 Between 1994 and 1997, Sam Kislin and his wife Ludmila, gave Giuliani 
$14,250 in contributions. In 1997, after Giuliani maxed out on his GOP 
contributions, $9.7 million, Kislin donated $30,000 to Giuliani through the 
Liberal Party, 
the other ticket on which Giuliani was running for re-election as mayor.
 In May 1999, Sam Kislin co-chaired a Giuliani Senate race fundraiser at the 
Sheraton Hotel and Towers in New York. The gathering raised $2.1 million for 
Giuliani's aborted senate campaign.
 Arik Kislin contributed $1000 to Giuliani's 1995 mayoral campaign and his 
Blonde Management shared office space with Sam Kislin's Trans Commodities.
 Sam Kislin, his wife Ludmila, their son David, and daughter Regina gave 
$2000 to Schumer's 1998 Senate campaign. Sam also gave Schumer's opponent, 
D'Amato, $1000. Sam Kislin is also a prominent supporter of the United Jewish 
Appeal 
and Israel.
 Arik Kislin gave Hillary Clinton $4000 in 2006, specifically on Sept. 12, 
2006. That same day an Olya Kislin also donated $4000 to Hillary Clinton.
 On October 1, 2007, the New York Post reported that an ex-employee of Air 
Rutter, Mark Billey, subsequently arrested on federal child sex charges, said 
he 
noted a number of armed U.S. Marshals at Air Rutter's facilities in Long 
Beach, however, given the connection between the firm and Clinton, the federal 
agents may have been part of Senator Clinton's Secret Service detail. Clinton 
has 
made several fundraising visits to the Los Angeles area over the past year.
 On October 9, WMR also reported that Arik Kislin is associated with another 
airline company, Skookum Air, Inc. Government records indicate that Clinton's 
N216RR was owned by Skookum Air, as well as Air Rutter International, with the 
actual registered owner listed as GS-II Holdings, LLC, a firm registered in 
Delaware with offices listed at 35 E. 21st St. Suite 500, New York, NY.
 On October 4, 2007, when Senator Clinton visited Chicago to attend a 
"Republicans for Hillary" fundraiser at the Hyatt Regency, N216RR was parked at 
Chicago Midway Airport.
 Recently, N216RR has been put up for sale.





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Dear Colleagues,

The media in the U.S. never saw the fall of the Soviet Empire coming  
because they didn't pay attention to the steady rise of dissident  
movements behind the "Iron Curtain."

And they may be missing a story just as big as people throughout  
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That's why Narco News is so important.

Narco News reporters bypass the official sources and spend time  
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on the ground when big stories break:

-- Al Giordano has covered the Zapatista movement for over a decade,  
keeping news of the movement flowing steadily as others have come and  
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-- Narco News broke the media blackout when the people of Venezuela  
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-- Nancy Davies and Bill Salzman were covering the resistance  
movement in Oaxaca long before Ulises Ruiz sent cops to beat the  
striking teachers, and are still reporting long after the street  
battles have ended and the rest of the international press have left.

-- Dan Feder and Laura Del Castillo Matamoros are reporting from  
Colombia now as a rural resistance movement is challenging Latin  
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None of this reporting can continue without your support.  The Fund  
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Dear Kris,

Kevin Martin - the chair of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) - has 
indicated that he wants to vote to loosen media ownership limits by early 
December.  But he's not saying exactly what the new rules would be.  He wants 
his agency to make this crucial decision behind closed doors, without public 
input.
 
It's eerily similar to what happened in 2003, when the FCC voted in secret to 
allow one company to control up to eight radio stations, three television 
stations, the local newspaper and the cable system in a single city.
 
Tell Congress to rein in Kevin Martin! 

http://www.commoncause.org/DejaVu
 
In 2003, the courts threw out the FCC's flawed media ownership rules, in large 
part because the public wasn't part of the process.  But Kevin Martin hasn't 
learned his lesson.  He wants to lock the public out.  That's not acceptable. 

Common Cause members and other activists across the nation have sent hundreds 
of thousands of comments to the FCC opposing media consolidation.  Those 
messages ought to mean something.  But if Kevin Martin gets his way, he'll 
disregard the public's voice and approve new rules without giving us any 
opportunity to weigh in on the specifics.

Contact your Representative today. Ask him or her to tell the FCC to keep the 
public in the loop! 

http://www.commoncause.org/DejaVu

If the FCC won't listen to the public, Congress can and should exercise its 
oversight power.  The media ownership rules govern how we get news and 
information -- and that's especially important in an election year.  Without 
diverse sources of information, we can't have a healthy debate about our 
nation's future, or a healthy democracy.
 
For the past three years, activists like you have held off a vote on rules that 
would allow Big Media to get even bigger.  Let's keep the pressure on.  Tell 
Congress to stand up for us.
 
Thanks for all you do for Common Cause.

Sincerely,

Bob Edgar
President, Common Cause


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The man who knew too much   

He was the CIA's expert on Pakistan's nuclear secrets, but Rich Barlow was 
thrown out and disgraced when he blew the whistle on a US cover-up. Now he's to 
have his day in court. Adrian Levy and Cathy Scott-Clark report 
  

Saturday October 13, 2007
The Guardian 
   
   
   
  


  Rich Barlow idles outside his silver trailer on a remote campsite in Montana 
- itinerant and unemployed, with only his hunting dogs and a borrowed computer 
for company. He dips into a pouch of American Spirit tobacco to roll another 
cigarette. It is hard to imagine that he was once a covert operative at the 
CIA, the recognised, much lauded expert in the trade in Weapons of Mass 
Destruction (WMD). 
   
   
  He prepared briefs for Dick Cheney, when Cheney was at the Pentagon, for the 
upper echelons of the CIA and even for the Oval Office. But when he uncovered a 
political scandal - a conspiracy to enable a rogue nation to get the nuclear 
bomb - he found himself a marked man.   
 
   

  In the late 80s, in the course of tracking down smugglers of WMD components, 
Barlow uncovered reams of material that related to Pakistan. It was known the 
Islamic Republic had been covertly striving to acquire nuclear weapons since 
India's explosion of a device in 1974 and the prospect terrified the west - 
   
  especially given the instability of a nation that had had three military 
coups in less than 30 years . Straddling deep ethnic, religious and political 
fault-lines, it was also a country regularly rocked by inter-communal violence. 
"Pakistan was the kind of place where technology could slip out of control," 
Barlow says. 
   
   
  He soon discovered, however, that senior officials in government were taking 
quite the opposite view: they were breaking US and international 
non-proliferation protocols to shelter Pakistan's ambitions and even sell it 
banned WMD technology. In the closing years of the cold war, Pakistan was 
considered to have great strategic importance. It provided Washington with a 
springboard into neighbouring Afghanistan - a route for passing US weapons and 
cash to the mujahideen, who were battling to oust the Soviet army that had 
invaded in 1979. Barlow says, "We had to buddy-up to regimes we didn't see 
eye-to-eye with, but I could not believe we would actually give Pakistan the 
bomb. How could any US administration set such short-term gains against 
the long-term safety of the world?" Next he discovered that the Pentagon was 
preparing to sell Pakistan jet fighters that could be used to drop a nuclear 
bomb.Barlow was relentless in exposing what he saw as US
 complicity, and in the end he was sacked and smeared as disloyal, mad, a drunk 
and a philanderer. If he had been listened to, many believe Pakistan might 
never have got its nuclear bomb; south Asia might not have been pitched into 
three near-nuclear conflagrations; and the nuclear weapons programmes of Iran, 
Libya and North Korea - which British and American intelligence now acknowledge 
were all secretly enabled by Pakistan - would never have got off the ground. 
"None of this need have happened," Robert Gallucci, special adviser on WMD to 
both Clinton and George W Bush, told us. "The vanquishing of Barlow and the 
erasing of his case kicked off a chain of events that led to all the 
nuclear-tinged stand-offs we face today. Pakistan is the number one threat to 
the world, and if it all goes off -  a nuclear bomb in a US or European 
city- I'm sure we will find ourselves looking in Pakistan's direction." 
   US aid to Pakistan tapered off when the Soviet Union
 withdrew fro

[CTRL] Fwd: New Evidence That Dr David Kelly Was "Suicided"

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New suspicion over Kelly death - MP  
Press Association 
Monday October 15, 2007 12:48 PM  
_http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6997401,00.html_ 
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6997401,00.html)   
New evidence surrounding the death of MoD scientist Dr David Kelly has added 
to suspicions that he was murdered, an MP has claimed. 
Liberal Democrat Norman Baker revealed no fingerprints were found on the 
penknife Dr Kelly apparently used to kill himself. 
The information was revealed after a Freedom of Information request to Thames 
Valley Police who conducted the immediate inquiry into his death. 
Dr Kelly, 59, was found dead near his Oxfordshire home in 2003, days after he 
was named as the source of a hugely controversial BBC story on the Iraq war. 
Mr Baker, who is writing a book on Dr Kelly, said evidence from the inquest 
showed Dr Kelly would probably have left fingerprints on the weapon. 
He told The Mirror: "Someone who wanted to kill themselves wouldn't go to the 
lengths of wiping the knife clean of fingerprints. It is just very 
suspicious. It is one of the things that makes me think Dr Kelly was murdered. 
The case 
should be re-opened." 
The death of Dr Kelly sparked the Hutton inquiry which would eventually clear 
the Government over its handling of the affair. 
He had met BBC reporter Andrew Gilligan who later claimed the Government had 
exaggerated a dossier on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. 
Question marks have already been raised over Dr Kelly's death after it was 
claimed neither the cut to his wrist nor the drugs he took were enough to kill 
him. 
A Thames Valley police spokeswoman said: "It has been confirmed that there 
were no fingerprints on the knife. This, however, does not change the official 
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[CTRL] Fwd: Hackers and Drug Dealers in the Philippines

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To The Addressee:

Dear Sir / Madam,


May request your immediate attention to this report with the action needed to 
apprehending these suspected individual liable for computer hacking, drug 
trafficking, terrorism and  other syndicative frauds residing here in the 
Philippines:

1. Dave Battad
2. Wendy Misa
3. Margot Bartolome
4. Dr. Roberto Ramirez
5. Alice Gaerland
6. Col. Billy Beltran
7. Marlom Almogera
8. employees of DZBB
9.  Rudy  Montero
10. employees  of  ABS-CBN 
11.  Sherwin  Gatchalian
12. Erwin Tulfo

To  proceed  to this  measure,  pls.  report  this case  to  the  White House, 
recommendations to FBI, NBI (Philippines), CIDG (Philippines) shall be a 
requisite. Considering that this is equated with the President Bush's 
espionage. Any correction shall subjected to assesment to the Department of 
Justice, Republic of the Philippines.
Thank you.

   
Michael Carmen
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/ Association of 
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[CTRL] Fwd: Diana's Car Hit by Another Vehicle Before It Crashed

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Car 'may have bumped Diana vehicle'  
Press Association 
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(http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6998282,00.html)   
Diana, Princess of Wales' Mercedes may have "bumped" another large, dark car 
as it entered the tunnel where it crashed, witnesses said. 
Jean-Claude Catheline and his wife Annick told the inquest into the deaths of 
the Princess and her lover Dodi Fayed that they saw two dark cars travelling 
quickly side-by-side into the Pont de l'Alma Tunnel in Paris in the early 
hours of August 31 1997. 
Speaking by video link from the French capital they revealed how they heard 
the sound of a collision as they walked on a grassy embankment near the 
entrance to the underpass. 
Moments later, Mr Catheline heard the sound of tyres screeching as the 
Mercedes carrying Diana and Dodi crashed. 
He told the inquest sitting at the High Court in London: "As soon as the car 
disappeared from our view we heard what sounded like the bodywork bumping, I 
think that this noise was before the car entered the tunnel." 
In an excerpt from his original police statement, read to the court by 
Richard Horwell QC, he said: "Almost immediately I heard a second noise, very, 
very 
loud, quite different from the first, it was a dull noise and followed by a 
second, identical noise." 
Mr Catheline added, as he addressed the court: "I heard the tyres screeching 
on the road." 
The couple were with their daughter Marie-Agnes and her boyfriend - now 
husband - David Le Ny, on a night out in Paris at the time. 
They were walking back to their car from the Eiffel Tower nearby. 
Mrs Catheline said: "When they were already in the tunnel, under the bridge 
we heard noises like two cars bumping each other."



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