Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest
You can do all of those things with Winamp. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of John Heath via Groups.Io Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2019 9:00 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Hi to Tom and others. What I wish vlc could do for me is: book mark for I'm using it to read talking books; the equalizer for music, and giving information on position. Except for the book marks I could do most of those things with media player. -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 3:57 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest John: I would suggest getting the latest VLC update; it's a good player...especially if you're needing something to play DVDs! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of John Heath via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:45 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Hi! I have vlc on my computer but find aspects hard to read or access. Do the updates help? Are there things I can use with Jaws 17 that will help? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:28 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Yes...VLC is now more accessible than it used to be; at least that's how I find it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:27 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest You'd loved it though Tom. Media Center was pure epicness. I really wish they'd kept it, made it play Blu-Ray Disks and so on. Oh well, VLC is verry acccessible. Just keep Any DVD HD running as you play the disk. That's how I did it. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: > While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used > Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, > at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty > straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of > the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to > me) that intuitive! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest > > What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes > Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. > Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a > good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. > I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - > given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if > I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. > I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent > updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and > VLC are updated frequently. > As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so > including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable > operating system etc. > Anyway its the individuals call. > > >> On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: >> >> If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this >> may >> be something you'll want to read! >> >> Tom Kaufman >> >> >> >> From: marianne Interest >> >> >> >> Hi Tom, >> >> >> >> If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. >> >> >> >> >> >> Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse >> >> >> >> By >> >> Matt Hanson >> >> 3 hours ago >> >> Software >> >> >> >> No more metadata >> >> As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it >> looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing >> operating system, >> >> and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media >> Player. >> >> >> >> According to >> >> a support document >> >> that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to view >> information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for songs, >> and >> the >> >> director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media >> Center >> and Win
Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest
Hi to Tom and others. What I wish vlc could do for me is: book mark for I'm using it to read talking books; the equalizer for music, and giving information on position. Except for the book marks I could do most of those things with media player. -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 3:57 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest John: I would suggest getting the latest VLC update; it's a good player...especially if you're needing something to play DVDs! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of John Heath via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:45 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Hi! I have vlc on my computer but find aspects hard to read or access. Do the updates help? Are there things I can use with Jaws 17 that will help? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:28 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Yes...VLC is now more accessible than it used to be; at least that's how I find it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:27 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest You'd loved it though Tom. Media Center was pure epicness. I really wish they'd kept it, made it play Blu-Ray Disks and so on. Oh well, VLC is verry acccessible. Just keep Any DVD HD running as you play the disk. That's how I did it. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) that intuitive! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC are updated frequently. As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable operating system etc. Anyway its the individuals call. On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may be something you'll want to read! Tom Kaufman From: marianne Interest Hi Tom, If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse By Matt Hanson 3 hours ago Software No more metadata As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing operating system, and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. According to a support document that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to view information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for songs, and the director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media Center and Windows Media Player." This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media Player in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't be downloaded. This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. Why? Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the feature and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many people were using it. If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows 7 - as you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - or start using an alternative such as VLC Media Player. While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has promised that metadata that's already been downloaded will still be available - it just won't download metadata for new media you add. Microsof
Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest
John: I would suggest getting the latest VLC update; it's a good player...especially if you're needing something to play DVDs! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of John Heath via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:45 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Hi! I have vlc on my computer but find aspects hard to read or access. Do the updates help? Are there things I can use with Jaws 17 that will help? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:28 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Yes...VLC is now more accessible than it used to be; at least that's how I find it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:27 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest You'd loved it though Tom. Media Center was pure epicness. I really wish they'd kept it, made it play Blu-Ray Disks and so on. Oh well, VLC is verry acccessible. Just keep Any DVD HD running as you play the disk. That's how I did it. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: > While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used > Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, > at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty > straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of > the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to > me) that intuitive! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest > > What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes > Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. > Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a > good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. > I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - > given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if > I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. > I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent > updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and > VLC are updated frequently. > As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so > including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable > operating system etc. > Anyway its the individuals call. > > >> On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: >> >> If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this >> may >> be something you'll want to read! >> >> Tom Kaufman >> >> >> >> From: marianne Interest >> >> >> >> Hi Tom, >> >> >> >> If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. >> >> >> >> >> >> Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse >> >> >> >> By >> >> Matt Hanson >> >> 3 hours ago >> >> Software >> >> >> >> No more metadata >> >> As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it >> looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing >> operating system, >> >> and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media >> Player. >> >> >> >> According to >> >> a support document >> >> that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to view >> information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for songs, >> and >> the >> >> director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media >> Center >> and Windows Media Player." >> >> >> >> This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows 7, >> Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. >> >> >> >> So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media >> Player >> in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't be >> downloaded. >> >> This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the >> feature >> and decided to discont
Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest
Hi! I have vlc on my computer but find aspects hard to read or access. Do the updates help? Are there things I can use with Jaws 17 that will help? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:28 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Yes...VLC is now more accessible than it used to be; at least that's how I find it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:27 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest You'd loved it though Tom. Media Center was pure epicness. I really wish they'd kept it, made it play Blu-Ray Disks and so on. Oh well, VLC is verry acccessible. Just keep Any DVD HD running as you play the disk. That's how I did it. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) that intuitive! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC are updated frequently. As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable operating system etc. Anyway its the individuals call. On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may be something you'll want to read! Tom Kaufman From: marianne Interest Hi Tom, If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse By Matt Hanson 3 hours ago Software No more metadata As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing operating system, and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. According to a support document that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to view information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for songs, and the director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media Center and Windows Media Player." This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media Player in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't be downloaded. This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. Why? Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the feature and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many people were using it. If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows 7 - as you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - or start using an alternative such as VLC Media Player. While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has promised that metadata that's already been downloaded will still be available - it just won't download metadata for new media you add. Microsoft has also explained that this change won't affect any of the app's media playing functionality, such as playback, media stream and other major features. Still, it's a reminder that it's probably worth thinking about upgrading to Windows 10. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1874): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1874 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29578980/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Ah okay. I ha a Hp Notebook at one time which was designed around Windows Media Center with its own built-in tuner and 2 different remote controls, one was designed for convenience whilst the other had more controls on it. > On 31 Jan 2019, at 3:57 am, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Yeah but waht Larry had was a tower. Not a lap top. It was verry cool. > Infact, that's how I first heard of Media Center. > > On 1/30/2019 11:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Ah yes >> I had one of those Hp Notebook PC’s and they were absolutely amazing. >> As you say the control revolved around Windows Media centre. >> >> >>> On 31 Jan 2019, at 1:05 am, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>> Ah no it is an HP PC designed with Media Center in mind. But yes I >>> dephinetly have a silicon Dust in mind as an accessory to get. But first >>> I need a Dell XPS tower. But in any case the M495C was a PC tower with >>> all kinds of connections and things. Infact you have the demo Dain. As >>> you have all the BCT podcasts. I'd like to try and figure out something >>> about those by the way. Because my internet is too wimpy for how we >>> tried to have me download them. Also I'm not gonna make ya ship me DVDs >>> over sees. For each folder ya told me was 4 gigs. That's pretty much a >>> DVD. But yeah it's 1 of the things he demoed in 2005. >>> >>> On 1/29/2019 11:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> Is that device Larry demonstrates a TV tuner? If so then I can recommend >>>> something which I think is very good and I’m talked about the products >>>> from Silicondust before. >>>> Plex finds them right out of the box so all the user has to do is connect >>>> to the LAN, connect to a TV aerial, Connect to a mains power outlet and >>>> switch on. >>>> The tuner has a handy interface for monitoring the tuners and watching >>>> live television from your browser. >>>> You can also check the status of each tuner - see what each is doing -, >>>> perform a channel scan etc. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 30 Jan 2019, at 3:25 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I too have and still use Media Player. I use it because of the SRS Wow >>>>> effect you can put on music. Though if I bought SoundForge Pro i can >>>>> expand the stereo and SRS Wow the music my self. lol I've heard of Media >>>>> Center and kinda poked arround in it on my Vista laptop. I never did end >>>>> up buying a TV tuner thus never did take full advantage but from Larry >>>>> Scutchan's demo of his HP M495C it sounded like pure epicness. Man how >>>>> I'd love to get my hands on an epic HP M495C though like Dain would >>>>> rightly point out it's no longer a thing. It's from freeking 2004. Well >>>>> 2003 even perhaps. But dude it's epic me wants 1. So yeah I agree with >>>>> Dain. It is better to move on especially if said epic thing 1 is >>>>> discussing is no longer being updated or if it has no real use no more. >>>>> Which since Microsoft bent the knee to the TV guys or what ever that was >>>>> all about is saddly the case for Media Center. Actually I think there's >>>>> more to the whole thing than that. Leo Laport just said that because he's >>>>> kinda anti coppy right law. Or I guess how the industries are kinda snow >>>>> flaky about you doing stuff. Na remember the best Media Center ever and >>>>> the last 1 was Windows 7. That must mean something happened since 7 that >>>>> they decided to say uncle. Thus Dain, the 1 you could buy since Windows 8 >>>>> was basically the same Windows 7 1. All though I hear it was crippled. Oh >>>>> and that reminds me I never got an FM tuner either so never played >>>>> arround with the Radio. Oh well. So much for my epic plans I had for >>>>> Media Center. But I guess when I do buy an XPS like Dain said I could >>>>> always still buy a tuner and use Plex or something. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>>>>> While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used >>>>>> Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said >>>>>> that, at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty >>>>>> straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out >>>>>
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Yeah but waht Larry had was a tower. Not a lap top. It was verry cool. Infact, that's how I first heard of Media Center. On 1/30/2019 11:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah yes I had one of those Hp Notebook PC’s and they were absolutely amazing. As you say the control revolved around Windows Media centre. On 31 Jan 2019, at 1:05 am, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah no it is an HP PC designed with Media Center in mind. But yes I dephinetly have a silicon Dust in mind as an accessory to get. But first I need a Dell XPS tower. But in any case the M495C was a PC tower with all kinds of connections and things. Infact you have the demo Dain. As you have all the BCT podcasts. I'd like to try and figure out something about those by the way. Because my internet is too wimpy for how we tried to have me download them. Also I'm not gonna make ya ship me DVDs over sees. For each folder ya told me was 4 gigs. That's pretty much a DVD. But yeah it's 1 of the things he demoed in 2005. On 1/29/2019 11:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Is that device Larry demonstrates a TV tuner? If so then I can recommend something which I think is very good and I’m talked about the products from Silicondust before. Plex finds them right out of the box so all the user has to do is connect to the LAN, connect to a TV aerial, Connect to a mains power outlet and switch on. The tuner has a handy interface for monitoring the tuners and watching live television from your browser. You can also check the status of each tuner - see what each is doing -, perform a channel scan etc. On 30 Jan 2019, at 3:25 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: I too have and still use Media Player. I use it because of the SRS Wow effect you can put on music. Though if I bought SoundForge Pro i can expand the stereo and SRS Wow the music my self. lol I've heard of Media Center and kinda poked arround in it on my Vista laptop. I never did end up buying a TV tuner thus never did take full advantage but from Larry Scutchan's demo of his HP M495C it sounded like pure epicness. Man how I'd love to get my hands on an epic HP M495C though like Dain would rightly point out it's no longer a thing. It's from freeking 2004. Well 2003 even perhaps. But dude it's epic me wants 1. So yeah I agree with Dain. It is better to move on especially if said epic thing 1 is discussing is no longer being updated or if it has no real use no more. Which since Microsoft bent the knee to the TV guys or what ever that was all about is saddly the case for Media Center. Actually I think there's more to the whole thing than that. Leo Laport just said that because he's kinda anti coppy right law. Or I guess how the industries are kinda snow flaky about you doing stuff. Na remember the best Media Center ever and the last 1 was Windows 7. That must mean something happened since 7 that they decided to say uncle. Thus Dain, the 1 you could buy since Windows 8 was basically the same Windows 7 1. All though I hear it was crippled. Oh and that reminds me I never got an FM tuner either so never played arround with the Radio. Oh well. So much for my epic plans I had for Media Center. But I guess when I do buy an XPS like Dain said I could always still buy a tuner and use Plex or something. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) that intuitive! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC are updated frequently. As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable operating system etc. Anyway its the individuals call. On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may be something you'll want to read! Tom Kaufman From: marianne Interest Hi Tom, If you
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Ah yes I had one of those Hp Notebook PC’s and they were absolutely amazing. As you say the control revolved around Windows Media centre. > On 31 Jan 2019, at 1:05 am, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Ah no it is an HP PC designed with Media Center in mind. But yes I > dephinetly have a silicon Dust in mind as an accessory to get. But first > I need a Dell XPS tower. But in any case the M495C was a PC tower with > all kinds of connections and things. Infact you have the demo Dain. As > you have all the BCT podcasts. I'd like to try and figure out something > about those by the way. Because my internet is too wimpy for how we > tried to have me download them. Also I'm not gonna make ya ship me DVDs > over sees. For each folder ya told me was 4 gigs. That's pretty much a > DVD. But yeah it's 1 of the things he demoed in 2005. > > On 1/29/2019 11:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Is that device Larry demonstrates a TV tuner? If so then I can recommend >> something which I think is very good and I’m talked about the products from >> Silicondust before. >> Plex finds them right out of the box so all the user has to do is connect to >> the LAN, connect to a TV aerial, Connect to a mains power outlet and switch >> on. >> The tuner has a handy interface for monitoring the tuners and watching live >> television from your browser. >> You can also check the status of each tuner - see what each is doing -, >> perform a channel scan etc. >> >> >>> On 30 Jan 2019, at 3:25 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>> I too have and still use Media Player. I use it because of the SRS Wow >>> effect you can put on music. Though if I bought SoundForge Pro i can expand >>> the stereo and SRS Wow the music my self. lol I've heard of Media Center >>> and kinda poked arround in it on my Vista laptop. I never did end up buying >>> a TV tuner thus never did take full advantage but from Larry Scutchan's >>> demo of his HP M495C it sounded like pure epicness. Man how I'd love to get >>> my hands on an epic HP M495C though like Dain would rightly point out it's >>> no longer a thing. It's from freeking 2004. Well 2003 even perhaps. But >>> dude it's epic me wants 1. So yeah I agree with Dain. It is better to move >>> on especially if said epic thing 1 is discussing is no longer being updated >>> or if it has no real use no more. Which since Microsoft bent the knee to >>> the TV guys or what ever that was all about is saddly the case for Media >>> Center. Actually I think there's more to the whole thing than that. Leo >>> Laport just said that because he's kinda anti coppy right law. Or I guess >>> how the industries are kinda snow flaky about you doing stuff. Na remember >>> the best Media Center ever and the last 1 was Windows 7. That must mean >>> something happened since 7 that they decided to say uncle. Thus Dain, the 1 >>> you could buy since Windows 8 was basically the same Windows 7 1. All >>> though I hear it was crippled. Oh and that reminds me I never got an FM >>> tuner either so never played arround with the Radio. Oh well. So much for >>> my epic plans I had for Media Center. But I guess when I do buy an XPS like >>> Dain said I could always still buy a tuner and use Plex or something. >>> >>> On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>>> While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used >>>> Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, >>>> at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty >>>> straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of >>>> the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to >>>> me) that intuitive! >>>> Tom Kaufman >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane >>>> Trethowan >>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM >>>> To: all-audio@groups.io >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest >>>> >>>> What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes >>>> Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. >>>> Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a >>>> good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. >>>> I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - >>>> given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t
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Ah no it is an HP PC designed with Media Center in mind. But yes I dephinetly have a silicon Dust in mind as an accessory to get. But first I need a Dell XPS tower. But in any case the M495C was a PC tower with all kinds of connections and things. Infact you have the demo Dain. As you have all the BCT podcasts. I'd like to try and figure out something about those by the way. Because my internet is too wimpy for how we tried to have me download them. Also I'm not gonna make ya ship me DVDs over sees. For each folder ya told me was 4 gigs. That's pretty much a DVD. But yeah it's 1 of the things he demoed in 2005. On 1/29/2019 11:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Is that device Larry demonstrates a TV tuner? If so then I can recommend something which I think is very good and I’m talked about the products from Silicondust before. Plex finds them right out of the box so all the user has to do is connect to the LAN, connect to a TV aerial, Connect to a mains power outlet and switch on. The tuner has a handy interface for monitoring the tuners and watching live television from your browser. You can also check the status of each tuner - see what each is doing -, perform a channel scan etc. On 30 Jan 2019, at 3:25 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: I too have and still use Media Player. I use it because of the SRS Wow effect you can put on music. Though if I bought SoundForge Pro i can expand the stereo and SRS Wow the music my self. lol I've heard of Media Center and kinda poked arround in it on my Vista laptop. I never did end up buying a TV tuner thus never did take full advantage but from Larry Scutchan's demo of his HP M495C it sounded like pure epicness. Man how I'd love to get my hands on an epic HP M495C though like Dain would rightly point out it's no longer a thing. It's from freeking 2004. Well 2003 even perhaps. But dude it's epic me wants 1. So yeah I agree with Dain. It is better to move on especially if said epic thing 1 is discussing is no longer being updated or if it has no real use no more. Which since Microsoft bent the knee to the TV guys or what ever that was all about is saddly the case for Media Center. Actually I think there's more to the whole thing than that. Leo Laport just said that because he's kinda anti coppy right law. Or I guess how the industries are kinda snow flaky about you doing stuff. Na remember the best Media Center ever and the last 1 was Windows 7. That must mean something happened since 7 that they decided to say uncle. Thus Dain, the 1 you could buy since Windows 8 was basically the same Windows 7 1. All though I hear it was crippled. Oh and that reminds me I never got an FM tuner either so never played arround with the Radio. Oh well. So much for my epic plans I had for Media Center. But I guess when I do buy an XPS like Dain said I could always still buy a tuner and use Plex or something. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) that intuitive! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC are updated frequently. As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable operating system etc. Anyway its the individuals call. On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may be something you'll want to read! Tom Kaufman From: marianne Interest Hi Tom, If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse By Matt Hanson 3 hours ago Software No more metadata As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing operating system, and it has now
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Well we don't send feedback reports for nothing you know , enjoy. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2019 5:28 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Yes...VLC is now more accessible than it used to be; at least that's how I find it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:27 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest You'd loved it though Tom. Media Center was pure epicness. I really wish they'd kept it, made it play Blu-Ray Disks and so on. Oh well, VLC is verry acccessible. Just keep Any DVD HD running as you play the disk. That's how I did it. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: > While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used > Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at > one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty > straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of > the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) > that intuitive! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of > Dane Trethowan > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest > > What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft > do analyse usage data of their Apps. > Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good > while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. > I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - > given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if > I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. > I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent > updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC > are updated frequently. > As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so > including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable > operating system etc. > Anyway its the individuals call. > > >> On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: >> >> If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, >> this may be something you'll want to read! >> >> Tom Kaufman >> >> >> >> From: marianne Interest >> >> >> >> Hi Tom, >> >> >> >> If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. >> >> >> >> >> >> Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse >> >> >> >> By >> >> Matt Hanson >> >> 3 hours ago >> >> Software >> >> >> >> No more metadata >> >> As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), >> it looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the >> ageing operating system, >> >> and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. >> >> >> >> According to >> >> a support document >> >> that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to >> view information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for >> songs, and the >> >> director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media >> Center and Windows Media Player." >> >> >> >> This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows >> 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. >> >> >> >> So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media >> Player in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't >> be downloaded. >> >> This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the >> feature and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many >> people were using >> >> it. >> >> >> >> If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows >> 7 - as you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - >> or start using >> >> an alternative such as >> >> VLC Media Player. >> >> >> >> While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has >>
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Yes...VLC is now more accessible than it used to be; at least that's how I find it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:27 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest You'd loved it though Tom. Media Center was pure epicness. I really wish they'd kept it, made it play Blu-Ray Disks and so on. Oh well, VLC is verry acccessible. Just keep Any DVD HD running as you play the disk. That's how I did it. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: > While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used > Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at > one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty > straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of > the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) > that intuitive! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest > > What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft > do analyse usage data of their Apps. > Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good > while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. > I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - > given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if > I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. > I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent > updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC > are updated frequently. > As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so > including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable > operating system etc. > Anyway its the individuals call. > > >> On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: >> >> If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may >> be something you'll want to read! >> >> Tom Kaufman >> >> >> >> From: marianne Interest >> >> >> >> Hi Tom, >> >> >> >> If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. >> >> >> >> >> >> Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse >> >> >> >> By >> >> Matt Hanson >> >> 3 hours ago >> >> Software >> >> >> >> No more metadata >> >> As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it >> looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing >> operating system, >> >> and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. >> >> >> >> According to >> >> a support document >> >> that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to view >> information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for songs, and >> the >> >> director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media Center >> and Windows Media Player." >> >> >> >> This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows 7, >> Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. >> >> >> >> So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media Player >> in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't be >> downloaded. >> >> This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the feature >> and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many people were >> using >> >> it. >> >> >> >> If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows 7 - as >> you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - or start using >> >> an alternative such as >> >> VLC Media Player. >> >> >> >> While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has promised >> that metadata that's already been downloaded will still be available - it >> just >> >> won't download metadata for new media you add. >> >> >> >> Microsoft has also explained that this change won't affect any of the app's >> media playing functionality, such as playback, media stream and other major >> >> features. >> >> >> >> Still, it's a reminder that it's probably worth thinking about upgrading to >> >> Windows 10. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1867): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1867 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29578980/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Is that device Larry demonstrates a TV tuner? If so then I can recommend something which I think is very good and I’m talked about the products from Silicondust before. Plex finds them right out of the box so all the user has to do is connect to the LAN, connect to a TV aerial, Connect to a mains power outlet and switch on. The tuner has a handy interface for monitoring the tuners and watching live television from your browser. You can also check the status of each tuner - see what each is doing -, perform a channel scan etc. > On 30 Jan 2019, at 3:25 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: > > I too have and still use Media Player. I use it because of the SRS Wow effect > you can put on music. Though if I bought SoundForge Pro i can expand the > stereo and SRS Wow the music my self. lol I've heard of Media Center and > kinda poked arround in it on my Vista laptop. I never did end up buying a TV > tuner thus never did take full advantage but from Larry Scutchan's demo of > his HP M495C it sounded like pure epicness. Man how I'd love to get my hands > on an epic HP M495C though like Dain would rightly point out it's no longer a > thing. It's from freeking 2004. Well 2003 even perhaps. But dude it's epic me > wants 1. So yeah I agree with Dain. It is better to move on especially if > said epic thing 1 is discussing is no longer being updated or if it has no > real use no more. Which since Microsoft bent the knee to the TV guys or what > ever that was all about is saddly the case for Media Center. Actually I think > there's more to the whole thing than that. Leo Laport just said that because > he's kinda anti coppy right law. Or I guess how the industries are kinda snow > flaky about you doing stuff. Na remember the best Media Center ever and the > last 1 was Windows 7. That must mean something happened since 7 that they > decided to say uncle. Thus Dain, the 1 you could buy since Windows 8 was > basically the same Windows 7 1. All though I hear it was crippled. Oh and > that reminds me I never got an FM tuner either so never played arround with > the Radio. Oh well. So much for my epic plans I had for Media Center. But I > guess when I do buy an XPS like Dain said I could always still buy a tuner > and use Plex or something. > > On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >> While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used >> Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at >> one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty >> straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of >> the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) >> that intuitive! >> Tom Kaufman >> >> -Original Message- >> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane >> Trethowan >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM >> To: all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest >> >> What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft >> do analyse usage data of their Apps. >> Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good >> while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. >> I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - >> given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if >> I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. >> I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent >> updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC >> are updated frequently. >> As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so >> including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable >> operating system etc. >> Anyway its the individuals call. >> >> >>> On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>> >>> If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may >>> be something you'll want to read! >>> >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> >>> >>> From: marianne Interest >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> >>> >>> If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse >>> >>> >>> >>> By >>> >>> Matt Hanson >>> >>> 3 hours ago >>> >>> Software >&g
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You'd loved it though Tom. Media Center was pure epicness. I really wish they'd kept it, made it play Blu-Ray Disks and so on. Oh well, VLC is verry acccessible. Just keep Any DVD HD running as you play the disk. That's how I did it. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) that intuitive! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC are updated frequently. As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable operating system etc. Anyway its the individuals call. On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may be something you'll want to read! Tom Kaufman From: marianne Interest Hi Tom, If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse By Matt Hanson 3 hours ago Software No more metadata As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing operating system, and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. According to a support document that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to view information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for songs, and the director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media Center and Windows Media Player." This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media Player in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't be downloaded. This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. Why? Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the feature and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many people were using it. If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows 7 - as you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - or start using an alternative such as VLC Media Player. While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has promised that metadata that's already been downloaded will still be available - it just won't download metadata for new media you add. Microsoft has also explained that this change won't affect any of the app's media playing functionality, such as playback, media stream and other major features. Still, it's a reminder that it's probably worth thinking about upgrading to Windows 10. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1865): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1865 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29578980/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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I too have and still use Media Player. I use it because of the SRS Wow effect you can put on music. Though if I bought SoundForge Pro i can expand the stereo and SRS Wow the music my self. lol I've heard of Media Center and kinda poked arround in it on my Vista laptop. I never did end up buying a TV tuner thus never did take full advantage but from Larry Scutchan's demo of his HP M495C it sounded like pure epicness. Man how I'd love to get my hands on an epic HP M495C though like Dain would rightly point out it's no longer a thing. It's from freeking 2004. Well 2003 even perhaps. But dude it's epic me wants 1. So yeah I agree with Dain. It is better to move on especially if said epic thing 1 is discussing is no longer being updated or if it has no real use no more. Which since Microsoft bent the knee to the TV guys or what ever that was all about is saddly the case for Media Center. Actually I think there's more to the whole thing than that. Leo Laport just said that because he's kinda anti coppy right law. Or I guess how the industries are kinda snow flaky about you doing stuff. Na remember the best Media Center ever and the last 1 was Windows 7. That must mean something happened since 7 that they decided to say uncle. Thus Dain, the 1 you could buy since Windows 8 was basically the same Windows 7 1. All though I hear it was crippled. Oh and that reminds me I never got an FM tuner either so never played arround with the Radio. Oh well. So much for my epic plans I had for Media Center. But I guess when I do buy an XPS like Dain said I could always still buy a tuner and use Plex or something. On 1/29/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) that intuitive! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC are updated frequently. As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable operating system etc. Anyway its the individuals call. On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may be something you'll want to read! Tom Kaufman From: marianne Interest Hi Tom, If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse By Matt Hanson 3 hours ago Software No more metadata As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing operating system, and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. According to a support document that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to view information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for songs, and the director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media Center and Windows Media Player." This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media Player in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't be downloaded. This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. Why? Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the feature and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many people were using it. If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows 7 - as you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - or start using an alternative such as VLC Media Player. While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has promised that metadata that's already been downloaded will still be available - it just won't download metadata for new med
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To be honest I fail to see the point of discussing what used to be as it is no longer so what really has to be asked is what can we use now and into the future. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2019 10:26 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest While I don't have any experience with Windows Media Center, I have used Windows Media Player...and never was a huge fan of it! Having said that, at one time, I used Windows Window to rip CDs as it seemed pretty straight-forward to me; it already would rip the track titles right out of the box! But they they changed the look of it; didn't seem (at least to me) that intuitive! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:26 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC are updated frequently. As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable operating system etc. Anyway its the individuals call. > On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: > > If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, > this may be something you'll want to read! > > Tom Kaufman > > > > From: marianne Interest > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. > > > > > > Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse > > > > By > > Matt Hanson > > 3 hours ago > > Software > > > > No more metadata > > As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), > it looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing > operating system, > > and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. > > > > According to > > a support document > > that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to > view information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for > songs, and the > > director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media > Center and Windows Media Player." > > > > This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows > 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. > > > > So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media > Player in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't > be downloaded. > > This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. > > Why? > > > > Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the > feature and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many > people were using > > it. > > > > If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows 7 > - as you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - or > start using > > an alternative such as > > VLC Media Player. > > > > While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has > promised that metadata that's already been downloaded will still be > available - it just > > won't download metadata for new media you add. > > > > Microsoft has also explained that this change won't affect any of the > app's media playing functionality, such as playback, media stream and > other major > > features. > > > > Still, it's a reminder that it's probably worth thinking about > upgrading to > > Windows 10. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1863): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1863 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29578980/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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We’ve known for some time that Windows Media Center was living on borrowed time and earlier versions of Windows Media Player too. In the case of Windows Media Center - that being the App I know more about as I used it on a 24/7 basis - I knew that development had stopped well before the release of Windows 10. Back at that time I believe that one could purchase Windows Media Center for an extra fee if one really wanted it so that’s when I began exploring alternative options. Just as well I did because those alternatives were not only more accessible in many ways but were able to take advantages of emerging technologies. Fastforward on to today and we see quite a few clients taking the place of Windows Media Center. I’ve mentioned Plex which is quite accessible and uses a web based content. Getting a Plex Account - and a Plex Pass - is like opening a door on not just your personal and recorded media but a door onto media world-wide so if anyone is interested in this sort of thing go to www.plex.tv <http://www.plex.tv/> and sign up for a trial to explore exactly what Plex offers. If you find everything in 30 days then you’ll be doing a damn good job as Plex offers just so much, “The World Is Your Oyster”. > On 30 Jan 2019, at 4:11 am, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Yeah that's good we weren't just exactly just left in the air as it were. > > On 1/29/2019 11:48 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> I'm just so glad that we have alternative choices Pex being one of several. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >> Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2019 1:39 AM >> To: all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest >> >> Yeah I wandered about this all along with the talk of Microsoft ending >> support for 7. Cause I loved Media Center. Had I kept 7 it woulda been for >> Media Center. >> >> On 1/28/2019 11:06 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>> If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, >>> this may be something you'll want to read! >>> >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> >>> From: marianne Interest >>> >>> >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> >>> If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. >>> >>> >>> >>> Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse >>> >>> >>> By >>> >>> Matt Hanson >>> >>> 3 hours ago >>> >>> Software >>> >>> >>> No more metadata >>> >>> As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), >>> it looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing >>> operating system, >>> >>> and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. >>> >>> >>> According to >>> >>> a support document >>> >>> that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to >>> view information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for >>> songs, and the >>> >>> director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media >>> Center and Windows Media Player." >>> >>> >>> This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows >>> 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. >>> >>> >>> So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media >>> Player in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't >>> be downloaded. >>> >>> This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> >>> Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the >>> feature and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many >>> people were using >>> >>> it. >>> >>> >>> If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows 7 >>> - as you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - or >>> start using >>> >>> an alternative such as >>> >>> VLC Media Player. >>> >>> >>> While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has >>> promised that metadata that's already been downloaded will still be >>> available - it just >>> >>> won't download metadata for new media you add. >>> >>> >>> Microsoft has also explained that this change won't affect any of the >>> app's media playing functionality, such as playback, media stream and >>> other major >>> >>> features. >>> >>> >>> Still, it's a reminder that it's probably worth thinking about >>> upgrading to >>> >>> Windows 10. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1861): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1861 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29578980/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Yeah that's good we weren't just exactly just left in the air as it were. On 1/29/2019 11:48 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I'm just so glad that we have alternative choices Pex being one of several. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2019 1:39 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] FW: Of Interest Yeah I wandered about this all along with the talk of Microsoft ending support for 7. Cause I loved Media Center. Had I kept 7 it woulda been for Media Center. On 1/28/2019 11:06 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may be something you'll want to read! Tom Kaufman From: marianne Interest Hi Tom, If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse By Matt Hanson 3 hours ago Software No more metadata As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing operating system, and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. According to a support document that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to view information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for songs, and the director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media Center and Windows Media Player." This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media Player in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't be downloaded. This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. Why? Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the feature and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many people were using it. If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows 7 - as you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - or start using an alternative such as VLC Media Player. While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has promised that metadata that's already been downloaded will still be available - it just won't download metadata for new media you add. Microsoft has also explained that this change won't affect any of the app's media playing functionality, such as playback, media stream and other major features. Still, it's a reminder that it's probably worth thinking about upgrading to Windows 10. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1860): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1860 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29578980/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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What you forwarded to the list comes as no surprise to me and yes Microsoft do analyse usage data of their Apps. Windows Media centre hadn't - when I last used it - been updated for a good while and had at that time fallen behind many other alternatives. I now use Plex to handle everything that Windows Media Center did though - given I use Windows 10 - I couldn’t have used Windows Media Center even if I’d wanted to as Windows Media Center doesn’t come as part of Windows 10. I very much liked Windows Media Center however because of the infrequent updates known problems with the App just weren’t fixed whereas Plex and VLC are updated frequently. As for upgrading to Windows 10? There are plenty of good reasons to do so including better handling of audio and video devices, a far more stable operating system etc. Anyway its the individuals call. > On 29 Jan 2019, at 3:06 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: > > If you are running Windows 7 and like to use Windows Media Player, this may > be something you'll want to read! > > Tom Kaufman > > > > From: marianne Interest > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > If you use Windows 7 as I do, this may be of interest to you. > > > > > > Windows 7's Windows Media Player app is about to get worse > > > > By > > Matt Hanson > > 3 hours ago > > Software > > > > No more metadata > > As Windows 7 hurtles towards its end of life date (January 14 2020), it > looks like Microsoft is beginning to strip features from the ageing > operating system, > > and it has now removed a key feature from Windows 7's Windows Media Player. > > > > According to > > a support document > > that Microsoft quietly updated a few days ago, "you may be unable to view > information (metadata) such as the title, genre, and artist for songs, and > the > > director, actors, cover art, and TV guide for movies in Windows Media Center > and Windows Media Player." > > > > This move also affects the Windows Media Center app found in Windows 7, > Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. > > > > So, it looks like when you import music or videos into Windows Media Player > in Windows 7, titles, artist names and other information won't be > downloaded. > > This is a major blow to the usefulness of the app, in our view. > > Why? > > > > Microsoft looked at customer feedback and usage data regarding the feature > and decided to discontinue it, so it probably means not many people were > using > > it. > > > > If you were, it might mean it's time to finally upgrade from Windows 7 - as > you'll probably want to anyway before January 14 next year - or start using > > an alternative such as > > VLC Media Player. > > > > While the removal of this feature is disappointing, Microsoft has promised > that metadata that's already been downloaded will still be available - it > just > > won't download metadata for new media you add. > > > > Microsoft has also explained that this change won't affect any of the app's > media playing functionality, such as playback, media stream and other major > > features. > > > > Still, it's a reminder that it's probably worth thinking about upgrading to > > Windows 10. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1857): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1857 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29578980/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
