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all ok, and that is exactly where it is. I got the manual, though it was a matter of finally them accepting what I put in for model number, and then I got all 54 pages of and read it with my Kurzweil 1000, just about perfectly. Some of the menu descriptions were scattered, but I got that the 4 TV units were all a little different in their back panels, like one of them had that earphone socket in front, etc. and some had off/on controls on the rear where mine does not. :) So, with a huge sigh of relief now, with your help which is truly appreciated and your effort, I am finally going to hit the sack. Been quite a long day catching up with emails plus all the rest of the stuff I do round here. :) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 11:43 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: As I said its difficult to make sense of a manual which refers to 4 models. I’m dead sure however that the optical socket is around the back. On 6 May 2019, at 12:05 pm, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3. take care and thanks again for all the help. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set. It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones. The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket. On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model. D50X-G9 thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors. Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap. The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack. On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . . anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers. On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler wrote: We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H
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wow, thank you so very much for the detailed message. I am going to look into all of this, for sure, and consult with my wife who listens quite a lot to this and see how we get on about it. Again, many thanks. I am saving your message for more perusal! Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 2:20 AM, pete gurney wrote: hi curtis, i agree with those that say the kef egg are good as i have had these connected to my computer for a few years and they are really good. but like you i recently got a large screen tv and wanted something good to go with it. after studying as many soundbars and surround systems around in january which is when i was getting one i came to the conclusion it had to be a dolby atmos system as this appears to be the future of home cinema sound systems. this not only gives you sound from all around you but also gives sound from above as well so it sounds like your in the middle of the action. lots of this type of system require you to mount speakers in the ceiling which i didn't want to do so i then started looking for something that can do the same thing without mounting that type of ceiling speakers. i found 2 manufacturers that sold systems with vertual atmos sound without having to mount ceiling speakers. they were sony and damson. every one knows sony but probably most people wont know damson. damson have invented the smallest dolby atmos surround system in the world the soundbar, sub woofer, and rear speakers are all wireless and really small compared to normal soundbars and sub woofers. and the way they create the over head sound is that they have a small speaker unit that magnetises to the top of the soundbar and fires sound up to bounce off the ceiling to give you the sense of being in the middle of everything. the sony models do this in a different way. they have developed what they call their virtical sound engine which gives off sounds tiny fractions of seconds apart and as they change those fractions it makes it sound like things are going over and around your head. sony have a few of these systems, the ht-x8500 which is just a stand alone soundbar with small sub woofer built in, the ht-x9000 which comes i believe as a soundbar with a seporate sub woofer, and the ht-f9 which is a soundbar with seporate sub woofer plus you can buy wireless rear speakers as an optional extra. in the UK the ht-x8500 costs £350 and this one was only released in january, the ht-x9000 costs £377, and the ht-f9 costs £598 plus an extra £260 for the optional wireless rear speakers. all of these have HDMI ARC sockets which your new tv should have the difference between a standard HDMI and the HDMI ARC socket is that the ARC one has an audio return channel meaning the HDMI lead connected to this socket on the soundbar and the tv is the only connection you need between the 2 as it sends the sound back down the same HDMI lead to feed the sound to the sound system. i eventually decided to get the sony system and went for the ht-f9 [at that time the ht-x8500 hadn't been released]. the reason i went for that one was to be on the cautious side as just like many years ago when there was betamax and vhs and no one knew who would win the same can be said about sound now as there is dolby atmos and dts-x competing for the best sound, but with the sony ht-f9 this system can work with either type of sound feeds. both the other sony models can handle both types as well. the damson model could not handle the dts-x sound. also the damson method of bouncing sound off the ceiling requires you to have a completely smooth flat ceiling which i don't have as i have artex ceilings where theres patterns engraved in them. the sony also have a virtual dolby atmos button on the remote control which will simulate over head sounds from non dolby atmos signals. after having this dolby atmos sound for the last 4 months i wouldn't want to go back to just stereo or a standard surround sound. my ht-f9 and the ht-9000 have both wi-fi and bluetooth capability as well but as far as i can tell the ht-8500 only has bluetooth as i can find no mention of wi-fi. if you can visit somewhere that have dolby atmos systems that they can demonstrate i'm sure you wouldn't want anything else after hearing it. hope this helps. pete. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2237): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2237 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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I will check into these for sure! I know about KEF, and am wondering how B&W became something other than Barker & Williamson. :) Fascinating how these things change over the years. :) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 7:01 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: By the sounds of your place perhaps something like the Key Egg speaker system might be useful given you have plenty of room on your entertainment unit. The Key Egg is a very small but flexible and good sounding bookshelf speaker system. The flexibility of the Egg system means it can be used for all sorts of audio tasks around the home. You could put the Key Egg on a desk with your computer using the USB input thus the computer treats the Key egg as a sound card and you thereby get access to full digital crips clear sound. Connect the Key Egg’s digital input to your Television . Use the Key Egg with your iPhone or other Bluetooth devices. The Egg system consists of a left and right speaker wired together with all the inputs and outputs on the rear of the right speaker. You can even connect a sub-woofer if you want more bass. I have a Kef Egg system in my Den on my computer desk though I don’t yet have a sub-woofer connected but I’m still amazed at the sound of the Egg system. Key use drivers which radiate the sound around the room, great stereo sound without any sweet spots so this means that you can wandered around your room and listen in any position you like and you still hear stunning stereo sound. Yes you pay good money for the Key Egg system but you will be rewarded. Ief like Bowers And Wilkins have been in the speaker game for over 50 years so they know what they’re doing. On 5 May 2019, at 11:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: hSay, you might give me an idea as to what you buy for your den because our living room is probably smaller than that is. This is a 50 inch TV, so I suppose the length of the bar would at least similarly correspond to the left-to-right measurements of the TV. Again you're talking with someone whom has never seen a sound bar so am a bit fumble-fingers about what it is and how it works. I presume then that the bar handles the highs and connects to a sub woofer. I know that 2 jacks are audio outputs because I connected them to a set of speakers and they work except there is no way to control their volume. There seems to be 3 more RCA jacks which are probably what you suggest. We have plenty of room on top of our "entertainment" center, where the TV is in it's exact center from right to left. :) SURE APPRECIATE all the help and suggestions. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The Soundbar is usually a unit the TV sits on though there may be other configurations depending on what you want, how much space you have etc. I’m will be purchasing a Soundbar for the Den and I plan to go out and have a look at a few models. As far as analogue outputs go on your Television? You’re really going to need signed assistance to confirm that. The sockets could be anything, Composite video in or out, Component video in or out and perhaps audio line in or out. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links
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As I said its difficult to make sense of a manual which refers to 4 models. I’m dead sure however that the optical socket is around the back. > On 6 May 2019, at 12:05 pm, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front > surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only > > HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI > are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3. > take care and thanks again for all the help. > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set. >> It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for >> headphones. >> The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets >> are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on >> the front -, an LAN port and the power socket. >> >> >>> On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model. >>> >>> D50X-G9 >>> >>> thanks Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>> Rialto, CA >>> >>> On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors. Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap. The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack. > On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is > that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am > totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways > it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to > speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where > any interaction with the lights . . . > > anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. > > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI >> out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is >> an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the >> tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. >> So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the >> Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. >> That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects >> that Digital TV now offers. >> >> >>> On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler >>> wrote: >>> >>> We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The >>> installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks >>> on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of >>> course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA >>> females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through >>> HDMI connections. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: > I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. > That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, > N1IBB. > > > > On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Oh and as a footnote. >> Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your >> Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a >> digital audio output. >> >> >>> On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it >>> confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or >>> would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are >>> RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I >>> don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks >>> >>> Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>
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h just so ya know HDMI 1 is the 1 we are interested in here. That's the 1 that has ARC. But and I forget now the other name of something else Visio TVs will want you to turn on as well. We delt with this because mom got a few mother's days ago a smart TV. On 5/5/2019 10:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3. take care and thanks again for all the help. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set. It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones. The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket. On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model. D50X-G9 thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors. Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap. The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack. On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . . anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers. On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler wrote: We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K u
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Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3. take care and thanks again for all the help. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set. It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones. The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket. On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model. D50X-G9 thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors. Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap. The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack. On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . . anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers. On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler wrote: We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have
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The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set. It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones. The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket. > On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model. > > D50X-G9 > > thanks Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors. >> Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which >> opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car >> cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap. >> The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, >> this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form >> the same jack. >> >> >>> On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is >>> that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am >>> totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways >>> it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to >>> speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any >>> interaction with the lights . . . >>> >>> anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. >>> >>> >>> Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>> Rialto, CA >>> >>> On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers. > On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler > wrote: > > We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The > installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on > the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of > course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA > females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through > HDMI connections. > > > > > On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: >> Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra >> smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to >> state-of-the-art.) >> >> Curtis Delzer >> HS >> W B 6 H E F >> Rialto, CA >> >> On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: >>> I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. >>> That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, >>> N1IBB. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. > On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it > confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or > would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are > RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I > don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV >> has a digital or analogue out. >> Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. >> These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround >> sound necessarily unless you really want that. >> I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite >> well. >> The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system >> which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each >> speaker on either side of the television. >> >> >>> On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> Hi! Last week a
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Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model. D50X-G9 thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors. Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap. The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack. On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . . anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers. On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler wrote: We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2228): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2228 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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I’ve found a manual which covers 4 different models so I’ll see what I can make out of it. > On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > D50X-G9 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2229): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2229 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Hi, here is what I scanned, and hopefully it will help, and a thousand thanks. MODELS / MODULES: D24h-G9, D50x-G9 & V505-G9 Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 1:58 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Do you have a model number for this set? That way I might be able to look up a PDF manual so I can get further information. On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . . anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers. On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler wrote: We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2227): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2227 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Do you have a model number for this set? That way I might be able to look up a PDF manual so I can get further information. > On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is > that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am > totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it > is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers > or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any > interaction with the lights . . . > > anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. > > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out >> and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an >> optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV >> we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. >> So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the >> Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. >> That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that >> Digital TV now offers. >> >> >>> On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler >>> wrote: >>> >>> We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers >>> gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other >>> end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have >>> window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the >>> TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: > I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's > where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. > > > > On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Oh and as a footnote. >> Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your >> Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a >> digital audio output. >> >> >>> On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it >>> confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would >>> you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and >>> don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know >>> if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks >>> >>> Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>> Rialto, CA >>> >>> On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. > On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart > TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple > and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for > audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there > should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for > volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable > box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife > is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent > sounding which I know you guys understand. :) > > THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to > look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. > > -- > > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > > > >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >>> >> >> > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You
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The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors. Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap. The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack. > On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is > that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am > totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it > is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers > or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any > interaction with the lights . . . > > anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. > > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out >> and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an >> optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV >> we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. >> So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the >> Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. >> That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that >> Digital TV now offers. >> >> >>> On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler >>> wrote: >>> >>> We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers >>> gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other >>> end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have >>> window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the >>> TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: > I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's > where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. > > > > On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Oh and as a footnote. >> Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your >> Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a >> digital audio output. >> >> >>> On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it >>> confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would >>> you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and >>> don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know >>> if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks >>> >>> Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>> Rialto, CA >>> >>> On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. > On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart > TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple > and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for > audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there > should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for > volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable > box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife > is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent > sounding which I know you guys understand. :) > > THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to > look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . . anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers. On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler wrote: We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2224): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2224 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more. So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable. That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers. > On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler > wrote: > > We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers > gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. > I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have > window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV > are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. > > > > > On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: >> Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart >> TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to >> state-of-the-art.) >> >> Curtis Delzer >> HS >> W B 6 H E F >> Rialto, CA >> >> On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: >>> I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's >>> where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. > On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined > to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define > it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change > with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has > blue tooth or not. :) thanks > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a >> digital or analogue out. >> Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. >> These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround >> sound necessarily unless you really want that. >> I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite >> well. >> The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which >> is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on >> either side of the television. >> >> >>> On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, >>> and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and >>> sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but >>> the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a >>> remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the >>> cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So >>> please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, >>> :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you >>> guys understand. :) >>> >>> THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to >>> look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>> Rialto, CA >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2223): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2223 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections. On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/ Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
Dolby Atmos is excellent but probably not to everyone’s taste or perhaps they may not be interested in putting speakers on the ceiling to get the full effect which is truly stunning if you have the Dolby Atmos material to play which is becoming more widely available. > On 5 May 2019, at 7:20 pm, pete gurney wrote: > > hi curtis, > > i agree with those that say the kef egg are good as i have had these > connected to my computer for a few years and they are really good. > but like you i recently got a large screen tv and wanted something good > to go with it. > after studying as many soundbars and surround systems around in january > which is when i was getting one i came to the conclusion it had to be a > dolby atmos system as this appears to be the future of home cinema sound > systems. > this not only gives you sound from all around you but also gives sound > from above as well so it sounds like your in the middle of the action. > lots of this type of system require you to mount speakers in the ceiling > which i didn't want to do so i then started looking for something that > can do the same thing without mounting that type of ceiling speakers. > i found 2 manufacturers that sold systems with vertual atmos sound > without having to mount ceiling speakers. > they were sony and damson. > every one knows sony but probably most people wont know damson. > damson have invented the smallest dolby atmos surround system in the > world the soundbar, sub woofer, and rear speakers are all wireless and > really small compared to normal soundbars and sub woofers. > and the way they create the over head sound is that they have a small > speaker unit that magnetises > to the top of the soundbar and fires sound up to bounce off the ceiling > to give you the sense of being in the middle of everything. > the sony models do this in a different way. > they have developed what they call their virtical sound engine which > gives off sounds tiny fractions of seconds apart and as they change > those fractions it makes it sound like things are going over and around > your head. > sony have a few of these systems, the ht-x8500 which is just a stand > alone soundbar with small sub woofer built in, the ht-x9000 which comes > i believe as a soundbar with a seporate sub woofer, and the ht-f9 which > is a soundbar with seporate sub woofer plus you can buy wireless rear > speakers as an optional extra. > in the UK the ht-x8500 costs £350 and this one was only released in > january, the ht-x9000 costs £377, and the ht-f9 costs £598 plus an extra > £260 for the optional wireless rear speakers. > all of these have HDMI ARC sockets which your new tv should have the > difference between a standard HDMI and the HDMI ARC socket is that the > ARC one has an audio return channel meaning the HDMI lead connected to > this socket on the soundbar and the tv is the only connection you need > between the 2 as it sends the sound back down the same HDMI lead to feed > the sound to the sound system. > i eventually decided to get the sony system and went for the ht-f9 [at > that time the ht-x8500 hadn't been released]. > the reason i went for that one was to be on the cautious side as just > like many years ago when there was betamax and vhs and no one knew who > would win the same can be said about sound now as there is dolby atmos > and dts-x competing for the best sound, but with the sony ht-f9 this > system can work with either type of sound feeds. > both the other sony models can handle both types as well. > the damson model could not handle the dts-x sound. > also the damson method of bouncing sound off the ceiling requires you to > have a completely smooth flat ceiling which i don't have as i have artex > ceilings where theres patterns engraved in them. > the sony also have a virtual dolby atmos button on the remote control > which will simulate over head sounds from non dolby atmos signals. > after having this dolby atmos sound for the last 4 months i wouldn't > want to go back to just stereo or a standard surround sound. > my ht-f9 and the ht-9000 have both wi-fi and bluetooth capability as > well but as far as i can tell the ht-8500 only has bluetooth as i can > find no mention of wi-fi. > if you can visit somewhere that have dolby atmos systems that they can > demonstrate i'm sure you wouldn't want anything else after hearing it. > hope this helps. > > pete. > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2221): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2221 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
Is there really any need to go that far? One thing for sure is that all modern day TV’S have a digital optical out and the other sure thing is that the Key Egg speakers we’ve discussing along with Soundbars have a digital optical input. > On 5 May 2019, at 10:50 pm, Matthew Chao via Groups.Io > wrote: > > Suggest you try and contact their tech support dept. to get more of an idea > of what your TV has.--Matt, N1IBB. > > > > On 5/4/2019 9:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: >> Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart >> TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to >> state-of-the-art.) >> Curtis Delzer >> HS >> W B 6 H E F >> Rialto, CA >> On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: >>> I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's >>> where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. > On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined > to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define > it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change > with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has > blue tooth or not. :) thanks > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a >> digital or analogue out. >> Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. >> These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround >> sound necessarily unless you really want that. >> I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite >> well. >> The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which >> is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on >> either side of the television. >> >> >>> On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, >>> and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and >>> sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but >>> the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a >>> remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the >>> cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So >>> please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, >>> :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you >>> guys understand. :) >>> >>> THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to >>> look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>> Rialto, CA >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >>> >>> >>> > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2220): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2220 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
Suggest you try and contact their tech support dept. to get more of an idea of what your TV has.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 9:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2219): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2219 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
hi curtis, i agree with those that say the kef egg are good as i have had these connected to my computer for a few years and they are really good. but like you i recently got a large screen tv and wanted something good to go with it. after studying as many soundbars and surround systems around in january which is when i was getting one i came to the conclusion it had to be a dolby atmos system as this appears to be the future of home cinema sound systems. this not only gives you sound from all around you but also gives sound from above as well so it sounds like your in the middle of the action. lots of this type of system require you to mount speakers in the ceiling which i didn't want to do so i then started looking for something that can do the same thing without mounting that type of ceiling speakers. i found 2 manufacturers that sold systems with vertual atmos sound without having to mount ceiling speakers. they were sony and damson. every one knows sony but probably most people wont know damson. damson have invented the smallest dolby atmos surround system in the world the soundbar, sub woofer, and rear speakers are all wireless and really small compared to normal soundbars and sub woofers. and the way they create the over head sound is that they have a small speaker unit that magnetises to the top of the soundbar and fires sound up to bounce off the ceiling to give you the sense of being in the middle of everything. the sony models do this in a different way. they have developed what they call their virtical sound engine which gives off sounds tiny fractions of seconds apart and as they change those fractions it makes it sound like things are going over and around your head. sony have a few of these systems, the ht-x8500 which is just a stand alone soundbar with small sub woofer built in, the ht-x9000 which comes i believe as a soundbar with a seporate sub woofer, and the ht-f9 which is a soundbar with seporate sub woofer plus you can buy wireless rear speakers as an optional extra. in the UK the ht-x8500 costs £350 and this one was only released in january, the ht-x9000 costs £377, and the ht-f9 costs £598 plus an extra £260 for the optional wireless rear speakers. all of these have HDMI ARC sockets which your new tv should have the difference between a standard HDMI and the HDMI ARC socket is that the ARC one has an audio return channel meaning the HDMI lead connected to this socket on the soundbar and the tv is the only connection you need between the 2 as it sends the sound back down the same HDMI lead to feed the sound to the sound system. i eventually decided to get the sony system and went for the ht-f9 [at that time the ht-x8500 hadn't been released]. the reason i went for that one was to be on the cautious side as just like many years ago when there was betamax and vhs and no one knew who would win the same can be said about sound now as there is dolby atmos and dts-x competing for the best sound, but with the sony ht-f9 this system can work with either type of sound feeds. both the other sony models can handle both types as well. the damson model could not handle the dts-x sound. also the damson method of bouncing sound off the ceiling requires you to have a completely smooth flat ceiling which i don't have as i have artex ceilings where theres patterns engraved in them. the sony also have a virtual dolby atmos button on the remote control which will simulate over head sounds from non dolby atmos signals. after having this dolby atmos sound for the last 4 months i wouldn't want to go back to just stereo or a standard surround sound. my ht-f9 and the ht-9000 have both wi-fi and bluetooth capability as well but as far as i can tell the ht-8500 only has bluetooth as i can find no mention of wi-fi. if you can visit somewhere that have dolby atmos systems that they can demonstrate i'm sure you wouldn't want anything else after hearing it. hope this helps. pete. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2218): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2218 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
I'll try that, thanks. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:46 PM, Matthew Chao via Groups.Io wrote: Can you Google the model of your TV and get the specs from there?--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 5:36 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2217): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2217 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
By the sounds of your place perhaps something like the Key Egg speaker system might be useful given you have plenty of room on your entertainment unit. The Key Egg is a very small but flexible and good sounding bookshelf speaker system. The flexibility of the Egg system means it can be used for all sorts of audio tasks around the home. You could put the Key Egg on a desk with your computer using the USB input thus the computer treats the Key egg as a sound card and you thereby get access to full digital crips clear sound. Connect the Key Egg’s digital input to your Television . Use the Key Egg with your iPhone or other Bluetooth devices. The Egg system consists of a left and right speaker wired together with all the inputs and outputs on the rear of the right speaker. You can even connect a sub-woofer if you want more bass. I have a Kef Egg system in my Den on my computer desk though I don’t yet have a sub-woofer connected but I’m still amazed at the sound of the Egg system. Key use drivers which radiate the sound around the room, great stereo sound without any sweet spots so this means that you can wandered around your room and listen in any position you like and you still hear stunning stereo sound. Yes you pay good money for the Key Egg system but you will be rewarded. Ief like Bowers And Wilkins have been in the speaker game for over 50 years so they know what they’re doing. > On 5 May 2019, at 11:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > hSay, you might give me an idea as to what you buy for your den because our > living room is probably smaller than that is. This is a 50 inch TV, so I > suppose the length of the bar would at least similarly correspond to the > left-to-right measurements of the TV. Again you're talking with someone whom > has never seen a sound bar so am a bit fumble-fingers about what it is and > how it works. I presume then that the bar handles the highs and connects to a > sub woofer. I know that 2 jacks are audio outputs because I connected them to > a set of speakers and they work except there is no way to control their > volume. There seems to be 3 more RCA jacks which are probably what you > suggest. We have plenty of room on top of our "entertainment" center, where > the TV is in it's exact center from right to left. :) > > SURE APPRECIATE all the help and suggestions. > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/4/2019 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> The Soundbar is usually a unit the TV sits on though there may be other >> configurations depending on what you want, how much space you have etc. >> I’m will be purchasing a Soundbar for the Den and I plan to go out and have >> a look at a few models. >> As far as analogue outputs go on your Television? You’re really going to >> need signed assistance to confirm that. >> The sockets could be anything, Composite video in or out, Component video in >> or out and perhaps audio line in or out. >> >> >>> On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined >>> to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define >>> it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with >>> the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue >>> tooth or not. :) thanks >>> >>> Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>> Rialto, CA >>> >>> On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. > On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, > and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and > sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but > the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a > remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the > cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So > please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, > :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys > understand. :) > > THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look > for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. > > -- > > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > >
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.) Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote: I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2215): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2215 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
hSay, you might give me an idea as to what you buy for your den because our living room is probably smaller than that is. This is a 50 inch TV, so I suppose the length of the bar would at least similarly correspond to the left-to-right measurements of the TV. Again you're talking with someone whom has never seen a sound bar so am a bit fumble-fingers about what it is and how it works. I presume then that the bar handles the highs and connects to a sub woofer. I know that 2 jacks are audio outputs because I connected them to a set of speakers and they work except there is no way to control their volume. There seems to be 3 more RCA jacks which are probably what you suggest. We have plenty of room on top of our "entertainment" center, where the TV is in it's exact center from right to left. :) SURE APPRECIATE all the help and suggestions. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The Soundbar is usually a unit the TV sits on though there may be other configurations depending on what you want, how much space you have etc. I’m will be purchasing a Soundbar for the Den and I plan to go out and have a look at a few models. As far as analogue outputs go on your Television? You’re really going to need signed assistance to confirm that. The sockets could be anything, Composite video in or out, Component video in or out and perhaps audio line in or out. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2214): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2214 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2213): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2213 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
Can you Google the model of your TV and get the specs from there?--Matt, N1IBB. On 5/4/2019 5:36 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote: thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2212): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2212 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
Oh and as a footnote. Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output. > On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to > a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? > Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the > TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or > not. :) thanks > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a >> digital or analogue out. >> Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. >> These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound >> necessarily unless you really want that. >> I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. >> The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is >> effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either >> side of the television. >> >> >>> On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and >>> need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding >>> good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is >>> not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be >>> then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have >>> Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you >>> recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish >>> something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) >>> >>> THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look >>> for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>> Rialto, CA >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2210): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2210 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
The Soundbar is usually a unit the TV sits on though there may be other configurations depending on what you want, how much space you have etc. I’m will be purchasing a Soundbar for the Den and I plan to go out and have a look at a few models. As far as analogue outputs go on your Television? You’re really going to need signed assistance to confirm that. The sockets could be anything, Composite video in or out, Component video in or out and perhaps audio line in or out. > On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to > a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? > Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the > TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or > not. :) thanks > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a >> digital or analogue out. >> Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. >> These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound >> necessarily unless you really want that. >> I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. >> The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is >> effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either >> side of the television. >> >> >>> On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: >>> >>> Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and >>> need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding >>> good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is >>> not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be >>> then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have >>> Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you >>> recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish >>> something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) >>> >>> THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look >>> for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Curtis Delzer >>> HS >>> W B 6 H E F >>> Rialto, CA >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2209): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2209 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. -- Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2208): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2208 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] TV speakers.
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out. Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar. These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that. I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well. The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television. > On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer wrote: > > Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and > need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding > good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is > not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be > then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have > Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you > recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish > something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :) > > THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look > for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us. > > -- > > > Curtis Delzer > HS > W B 6 H E F > Rialto, CA > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2207): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/2207 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/31501989/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
