Re: [android-developers] Where can I find the Android Cloud to Device Messaging API?
It's part of the Google-addons: http://code.google.com/android/c2dm/index.html On 05/20/2010 08:53 PM, rtreffer wrote: So Android 2.2 is out, we've got a new SDK, and a promising new feature Android Cloud to Device Messaging. But I just can't find any traces of this in the API diff. Did anyone find an API? Or some further docs? Thanks in advance, Rene Treffer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Avoid restarting http request on orientation change
Depending on your specific needs, a service might make sense, but for simple cases, it's not strictly necessary. You can instead use Activity.onRetainNonConfigurationInstance(), which allows you to pass live Java objects to the new Activity instance - i.e., for example an AsyncTask object. Just make sure you don't create leaks by keeping references to old instances of your Activity around. I've been using a custom ASyncTask child class for a while that allows me to connect to the task from a new activity instance, and have the proper callbacks be executed even if the tasked finished in-between activities being available: http://github.com/miracle2k/android-autostarts/blob/master/src/com/elsdoerfer/android/autostarts/ActivityAsyncTask.java Note that while the docs say that onRetainNonConfigurationInstance is only for optimization, it's not quite clear what that the official contract is. Yes, it's possible that your activity needs to restore itself without onRetainNonConfigurationInstance(). For example, if the user leaves your application via HOME and then goes into the Settings and changes the device language, your activity will be stopped and restarted, presumably without onRetainNonConfigurationInstance() being called. However, it might be ok if in those cases your api request will indeed need start again fresh, depending on it's duration, and maybe whether it changes state on the server. But for your run of the mill orientation change, onRetainNonConfigurationInstance() is apparently being reliable called, and it has been suggested on this list a number of times that it is intended to be used for objects that can't be stored in a bundle, like for example sockets. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] To save resources, should services use the android:process attribute?
I have a service that runs continuously. I opted to run the service in a separate process, communicating through IPC with the client activities, thinking this will help conserve memory. If the user is done interacting, Android could shut down the entire client side process. However, the protocol between the service and activities is actually a bit complex, and writing all that IPC code is a bit tiresome. Is there actually any gain here? if Android frees the memory of finished Activities anyway, is there any benefit to using a separate process, or is it maybe making things worse, even? What about a stopped activity stack (i.e. the user leaving through HOME)? If there are two processes, Android could shut down the client side to regain memory. With a single process, would it need to choose between either ending keeping the saved activity state in memory, or ending the process including the service? I can't help but notice that no other app seems to use a remote process, including builtin one's like Google Talk or the Music Player. I'm I correct in assuming that this is the recommended approach then? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: How to detect correctly APN changes
Maybe try your luck with ACTION_ANY_DATA_CONNECTION_STATE_CHANGED: http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#uX1GffpyOZk/telephony/java/com/android/internal/telephony/TelephonyIntents.javaq=ANY_DATA_STATEsa=Ncd=2ct=rcl=64 It's not advertised in the public SDK, but Sipdroid seems to use it. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Are processes kept alive when nothing is being done?
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html#proclifeKeeping it around has no negative impact on the user. It would be possible though that a broken application still has active threads around which are eating CPU cycles, correct? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Animations with transparent background broken on Milestone/Droid?
I'm using the stock android.R.anim.fade_in animation to fade in a
textview. Here's the code to reproduce:
@Override
public void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) {
super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);
setContentView(R.layout.main);
Animation fadeInAnim = AnimationUtils.loadAnimation(this,
android.R.anim.fade_in);
fadeInAnim.setDuration(1);
LinearLayout r = (LinearLayout)findViewById(R.id.root);
TextView text = new TextView(this);
text.setText(Hello World);
text.setTextColor(Color.BLACK);
r.addView(text);
text.startAnimation(fadeInAnim);
}
The Layout:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
LinearLayout xmlns:android=http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/
android
android:orientation=vertical
android:layout_width=fill_parent
android:layout_height=fill_parent
android:id=@+id/root
android:background=#FF
/LinearLayout
This works wonderfully on the ADP1, the emulator in various versions,
but on a 2.0 Milestone, for the whole time the animation is running,
the background of the textview is visible in very light grey/blue
color.
Note that in the code above, the TextView background color is
transparent, on the activity background is set to something non-
default. If either of those are not true, the problem doesn't occur.
For example, if I set the TextView background to white also, I don't
see the artifact; same if I leave the activity background at the
default,
Is this a bug? Can other Milestone/Droid owners confirm this?
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[android-developers] Re: RatingBar size issues on high-density screens (Droid, Nexus One)
I had trouble with this too. The solution is to use support-screens to enable anyDensity=true. Simply setting targetSdkVersion to something = 4 also works, since this makes anyDensity=true the default. I would have assumed that the SDK that you build against automatically is considered the target, but apparently, this is not so. I've been building against SDK level 5, and without explicitly setting targetSdkVersion had the exact problem as you. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Managing translations updates
I've written a simple script to convert from and to gettext .po files: http://github.com/miracle2k/android2po -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Managing translations updates
Once thing I've asked myself for a while now: How would one manage continuous updates to translations? I.e., when releasing a new version, you wouldn't want your translators having to manually copy and paste existing translations from the previous versions, or worse, re-translate everything. Even when for those languages that I translate myself I noticed that when introducing a new string, I basically need to update all the language-specific resources right away, or I will have trouble later on trying to come up with a list of everything that changed. I'm familiar with gettext, where this problem is solved by basically being able to merge the diff between Original-V1 and Original-V2 into Translation V1. How do people generally solve this on Android? Are there any existing tools for the job? Maybe something that can convert to gettext and back? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: My app runs fine on ADP1, but crashes the Motorola Droid?
You can find a number of reports from people who see their Droids crash in regular intervals (https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/ 16278); users like to attribute such problems to whatever app they recently used/installed, but it really sounds like a problem with the system in general. Unless you receive several such problems reports, I wouldn't worry. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] ADC II Package Rename Content Providers
This is slightly confusing me right now. If I have a content provider, should it's authority be renamed also? I would have thought it makes sense, allowing both versions to run next to each other cleanly. But then I seem to be experiencing strange errors if both versions do run hat the same time, with the non-ADC version of the app trying to use the ADC-Provider...or something. I can not exclude a bug in my own code, but I don't see where the problem is right now - both the Authority defined as well as the URI used to access seem to be correct and different in each case. Any obvious problems I might be missing? Is using two different URIs generally the way to go? Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] LocationManager API too limited?
...or maybe I am just missing something? I have a service and would like that service to keep up with the user's current location. I don't have any particular requirements in terms of accuracy etc. So I am looping over the list of all providers, and registering a listener for each. I thought this would be preferable to just listening to whatever getBestProvider() returns, since regardless of state changes that may happen in the background (say the user disables mine and enables a different provider), my service will still receive updates. GPS is making problems though, because it seems to *insist* on delivering at least one location every time I registered the listener, even though I have set both minTime and minDistance to high values. If I'm for example currently indoors, it will keep trying forever. I basically just want to know too when a new location becomes available, for whatever reason that may be (possible be because some other app is using GPS), but if not, then that's fine too. There currently doesn't seem to be a way to do this - or is there? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Changing the More icon drawable
Is it correct that there is no way to change the actual icon of the automatically created more menu item? I can see there is a android:moreIcon option for Themes, but I can't get it to work, and it looks like the MenuBuilder class actually has the internal theme names hardcoded. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Separating Widget from main Application
Make sure this doesn't just happen when you launch from Eclipse - this is actually a pretty useful feature for development. Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: onStart() not called when a service is restarted after, being killed?
After having a look at the source code, I would think that this is supposed to work. See sendServiceArgsLocked (http://www.google.com/codesearch/p? hl=ensa=Ncd=1ct=rc#uX1GffpyOZk/services/java/com/android/server/am/ ActivityManagerService.javal=8950) which are later converted to onStart() calls in ActivityThread. handleServiceArgs (http:// www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=ensa=Ncd=1ct=rc#uX1GffpyOZk/core/java/android/app/ActivityThread.javal=2550). However, other people seem to have had the same experience as I, so I assume this is not a problem with my code. http://code.google.com/p/android-random/source/browse/trunk/TestKeepAlive/src/org/devtcg/demo/keepalive/KeepAliveService.java (uses settings to remember whether the service was started). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Protocol Buffers (protobuf)
I can confirm that Class.forName() works, though it's not the fastest thing in the world (about 3 seconds for 10 message classes). I sort of do feel like I need to init *all* of them in order to be safe. Maybe I can find some clever way to do this in the background while the user is still busy with the UI. Thanks! Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] onStart() not called when a service is restarted after, being killed?
I have a service that needs to hold a persistent TCP connection, think IM. I'm reluctant to use setForeground() - the service being down temporarily isn't that big a deal, and I am assume I can trust that I'll be run again once memory is available, correct? The problem here is this. The service was started via startService() before being killed. However, when it is restarted, only onCreate() is executed. This makes it hard to continue, because starting work onCreate() means I can't even bind to the service (to say query it's status) without it doing so. Is this a bug or per design? What is the status of the service after it is being restarted? Is it consider started by the system, i.e. waiting for a call to stopService()? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Protocol Buffers (protobuf)
Ah, I've now run into this issue also, it seems. Strangely, it works just fine for the most part, except for random, unreproducable cases, where it starts to hang somewhere inside getDeclaredMethods(). easiest way to do this is to call Class.forName(String className) early in the app start sequence. Does this mean Application.onCreate()? Michael fadden schrieb: On Jul 21, 10:56 pm, fadden fad...@android.com wrote: The bug is that, while generating the list of declared methods, the VM would initialize classes found in method arguments. Those classes shouldn't be getting initialized at that point, and initialization ordering problems ensue. I got a copy of the APK (thanks!) and poked at it. I believe this is the same bug. When the app launch stalled a sent the process a kill -3 and pulled the stack trace out of /data/anr/traces.txt. The two interesting threads are: main prio=5 tid=3 WAIT | group=main sCount=1 dsCount=0 s=N obj=0x4001d520 self=0xbc60 | sysTid=1086 nice=0 sched=0/0 handle=-1343996920 at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredMethods(Native Method) - waiting on 0x1a8598 (a java.lang.Class) at java.lang.ClassCache.getDeclaredPublicMethods(ClassCache.java: 166) at java.lang.ClassCache.getDeclaredMethods(ClassCache.java:179) at java.lang.ClassCache.findAllMethods(ClassCache.java:249) at java.lang.ClassCache.getFullListOfMethods(ClassCache.java:223) at java.lang.ClassCache.getAllPublicMethods(ClassCache.java:204) at java.lang.Class.getMethod(Class.java:1006) at com.google.protobuf.GeneratedMessage.getMethodOrDie (GeneratedMessage.java:900) ... Graphics prio=5 tid=19 WAIT | group=main sCount=1 dsCount=0 s=N obj=0x43748ef8 self=0x1a4878 | sysTid=1094 nice=0 sched=0/0 handle=1722776 at com.ZZZ.Level$Map.clinit(Level.java:~1978) - waiting on 0x146768 (a java.lang.Class) at com.ZZZ.Level$LoadedAnnouncement.init(Level.java:-1) at com.ZZZ.Level$LoadedAnnouncement.clinit(Level.java:2586) at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredMethods(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassCache.getDeclaredPublicMethods(ClassCache.java: 166) ... The're both under getDeclaredMethods, and they're both waiting on a Class object monitor (but not the same class). The Graphics thread is doing a couple layers of class initialization that it shouldn't be doing at that point. It's possible we've deadlocked on class init. I tried it twice and ended up in the exact same place both times. With the bug fix in place it started up every time. This problem will go away in a future release, but for now you can work around it by forcing initialization to happen earlier. The easiest way to do this is to call Class.forName(String className) early in the app start sequence. Start with Level$Map and Level $LoadedAnnouncement and see if that cures it. For anyone building their own VM, you can see the patch in http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3005 . --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: In-place upgrade of app, outside of Market
Or the other way around: Downloaded it first from an 3rd party source and then trying to buy it from the Android Market... this is a more likely scenario. I'm not sure if the user needs to uninstall first. No, Market seems to only care about package names. The app may appear as not installed in the Market at first, but upon clicking Install, you'll get the usual update prompt. Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Debug Appwidget using Eclipse/ADT
It worked for me at some point, but mostly it doesn't either. However, you can use the Dev Tools app that is installed in the emulator to explicitly set your package as the one that should be debugged. Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Widget developer tired of Doesn't launch comments
Can I hide the app icon from launcher after first launch? Try PackageManager.setComponentEnabledSetting(): http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PackageManager.html#setComponentEnabledSetting(android.content.ComponentName,%20int,%20int) This does work for services, broadcoast receivers... so it might hide your launch activity as well. Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Call Activity from Widget, have only one instance. I am confused.
I've read through the Application Fundamentals three times today (and I had done so before), but I still can't quite wrap my ahead around the task concept. Or I guess I thought I understood it, but usually, the results I am seeing don't match up to what I would expect to happen (maybe a tool to see the current tasks/activities etc. for debugging purposes would be a nice addition). I have multiple widgets from my provider in the Launcher desktop, and each is using a PendingIntent with a different URI as data (so they should be separate intents) to open an Activity. I want there to be only once concurrent instance of this Activity that the user can access. So clicking the widget (1) , pressing HOME (2), clicking a different widget (3), pressing BACK (4) should bring the user back to the Desktop. Now I did manage to do this using launchMode=singleTask - the existing instance is brought to the top, onNewIntent() is called and I am pretty satisfied with it. However, supposedly there are other ways to achieve an equivalent effect (say with having the activity restarted), and I'd like to understand why I don't seem to be able to get them to work: In every case, instead of seeing the home screen after step (4) (after pressing BACK), I see the *previous* instance of the Activity. For example, if I read this correctly: There's another way to force activities to be removed from the stack. If an Intent object includes the FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TOP flag, and the target task already has an instance of the type of activity that should handle the intent in its stack, all activities above that instance are cleared away so that it stands at the top of the stack and can respond to the intent. If the launch mode of the designated activity is standard, it too will be removed from the stack, and a new instance will be launched to handle the incoming intent. http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html Then simply using using the following code to start my Activity from my widget should do what I want, no? Intent detailIntent = new Intent(context, ViewImageActivity.class); detailIntent.setFlags(Intent.FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TOP); PendingIntent pending = PendingIntent.getActivity(context, 0, detailIntent, 0); So in (3) My activity should be launched using FLAG_ACTIVITY_NEW_TASK by the launcher, which due to process affinity would find the existing task (which would consist of a single instance of my Activity), and launch the new instance on top of it. This explains what I am seeing. Why doesn't FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TOP cause the existing instance in the task to be replaced? Even setting android:launchMode explicitely to standard, as mentioned in the doc quote above, this doesn't seem to change things. I also tried android:finishOnTaskLaunch=true, but the behaviour is the exact same was just described with FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TOP (which seems to be the exact same as when doing neither and really starting an activity without any special attributes). I should mention that If I click the same widget in (3) as I clicked in (1), i.e. using the same PendingIntent twice, I do get the previous instance brought to the front (not restarted), but again, regardless of whether FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TOP or finishOnTaskLaunch are being used. I find this especially strange since the docs about tasks don't seem to mention the intent itself being relevant at all. Application Fundamentals does at one point say For the default standard mode, a new instance is created to respond to every new intent, but it's not clear what new intent means then. Is triggering a PendingIntent multiple times through a widget not multiple new intents then? I also tried various combinations of the other related options, but pretty much got nowhere. Can anybody make sense of this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: What is the difference between thread and service?
From what I under understand, your application having a service running is basically just holding a (service) object that tells Android not to kill your process. The service onStart methods etc. still run in your main thread and are subject to Application not responding. You could have a thread directly in your activity without using a service, but Android might kill your Activity/process when you're not looking. Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Maximum size of onSaveInstanceState bundle
I have an activity that loads a bitmap from a database when it starts up. Due to the nature of the app, should the activity be killed and recreated at a later point, I cannot guarantee that the bitmap in the database is still the same one. Should I save the bitmap to the bundle to be able to ensure I am still having the same data available when my activity is restored? The bitmap may be multiple 100 kilobytes in size, and I worry that saving data this large would defeat the whole purpose of having my activity killed by Android in the first place. Is there a fixed or recommended limit to what amount of data should be stored in the bundle? Micahel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Widget process lifetime: Why not stop the service?
I'm writing a widget that needs to update rather infrequently (say multiple hours). Following the source examples out there, it seems the common solution is to use a service to prepare the updates. However, after I am done, my process is still running on service level, it looks like it's not being killed by Android in low memory conditions, and killing it manually causes it to restart. The same seems to be true for all other widgets I have installed so far - they stay in memory. Wouldn't it be better to have to service call this.stop() when it is done, at least if the widget knows it probably won't need to do another update any time soon? I'm doing this now, and it seem to work fine - my process is being killed when Android needs memory. I'm confused though as to why this wouldn't be the encouraged behaviour then (it's not like the G1 has an aweful lot of memory to spare). Should or shouldn't I be doing this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Widget process lifetime: Why not stop the service?
Don't use a service; use the alarm manager to schedule your wakeup/work. Currently I'm actually using the widget framework's update mechanism. From what I understand, a service must be used in any case to avoid ANR when processing the request might take a bit longer. The widget example on the developer blog uses a service as well, but does not call Service.stopSelf() when done. Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] AppWidgets: Reusing RemoteViews instance leaks memory?
I'm writing a widget. Currently, I'm have a simple ImageView, and calling RemoteViews.setImageViewBitmap(). I'm using a service to do the updates. I thought it might be a good idea to reuse an existing RemoteViews instance, so I'm only querying it the first time around, and subsequently simply call setImageViewBitmap() with the new image. This works well initially, but after some time I first start getting !!! FAILED BINDER TRANSACTION !!! errors, and later, an OutOfMemory exception. Simply creating a new RemoveViews instance every time works flawlessy on the other hand. I'm just curios why that would be, any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] AppWidgets: Dynamic value for updatePeriodMillis?
The developer blog suggests that one might ask the user for a custom widget update interval: Consider updating as infrequently as possible, or letting your users pick a custom update frequency. http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/introducing-home-screen-widgets-and.html It's not quite clear to me how one would do so. The android:updatePeriodMillis attribute is statically defined the the xml resource, and can't be changed, no? And related, what about minHeight and minWidth? Is it possible to let the use choose a size during configuration? From what I understand, the configuration dialog is only called once the widget views have already been requested once, so I am guessing not? Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: NEW Gesture Recognition Application!
check out our blog and demonstration video and comment to let us know what you think. I don't like having to click on a button (Call, SMS etc) after drawing the gesture. Instead, I'd like to see the app doing that by itself depending on where the gesture was defined. Apart from that, where and when can I get it!? ;) Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Using Widget.TextView.ListSeparator
I need to separate to content areas in my application, and I thought I would use the OS built-in style for better integration, style-wise. The separator used by the ListView seemed to fit. So I had a custom style resource like this, inheriting from Widget.TextView.ListSeparator: style name=Header parent=@android:style/ Widget.TextView.ListSeparator.../style And then using the resource with a view like so: TextView style=@style/Header Compiled a against 1.0, this worked just fine on my 1.0 device, and also with the unofficial holiday 1.1 ADP image. Now, using the 1.5 SDK, it still works as expected on a 1.5 AVD, but when running the app on a 1.1 AVD or my 1.1 holiday device, the parent style doesn't seem to be taken into account. Neither the android:background specified by Widget.TextView.ListSeparator nor the android:textColor value is used. On the other hand, when targeting 1.1 in Eclipse, it*does* work in 1.1 again, but the same issue now occurs while running on 1.5. When trying to use TextView style=@android:style/ Widget.TextView.ListSeparator directly, Eclipse says Resource is not public , both when targeting 1.1 or 1.5. Is there any obvious explanation for this? What would be the correct way to reference the Widget.TextView.ListSeparator style? Why can't I use the style directly, but are allowed to inherit from it? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market
Are you unaware of the recent Scrabble issue on the iPhone? You are probably referring to Scrabulous on Facebook. As far as I am aware, this also was mainly a trademark issue. Hasbro has claimed copyright on the game itself, but of course, that doesn't really mean much. I don't think you see my point, which is that an operating system/ community/environment that openly disregards intellectual property rights is, in my humble opinion, doomed to failure from the get-go from the inability to form a viable business model for anyone involved. I don't see this happening. However, at the very least within this thread, TTC's factual intellectual property rights are in dispute. See, I think we all here believe in copyright. Some however may believe that copyright should expire at some point (which in fact it does). Some may believe that the rules of a game like Tetris should not be covered by copyright. Evidence I've seen so far seems to suggest that indeed they aren't. Laws also differ between different countries. Clearly, it's a judgment call how far intellectual property rights should go. Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: SDKs comparison with the iPhone
it would be done on a discussion list, which would fit in with many open source projects I've worked on where pre-release versions are circulated and then developers say Yay or Nay to whether it's good enough to call a production release, I'm not sure what Open Source projects work like that. All projects I've ever been involved with have some kind of circle of leadership that decides what is released, and when. Sometimes community input plays a larger role, sometimes it is smaller. I think we all agree that Android moving towards being more community driven is a good thing, and should happen rather sooner than later. But at the end of the day, there will always be a single instance calling the shots, and for Android, for the foreseeable future, that will be Google. You really can't expect a random private build that you made to be considered anything other than unofficial. In pretty much any Open Source project I've ever heard of. Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market
Having seen the demo video of your game I can see why they would appear to have a reasonable basis for their case. You'd added some fancy features, but the basic game play is the same right down to the block shapes. I don't think so. I'm no layer either, of course, but I thought the consensus was that while TTC has a trademark claim to the name, copyright claims on features and gameplay are just bullying. I've also never heard of TTC ever winning this case in a court, or, for that matter, even just following up on their threats against people who refuse to comply. Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] market://details not working?
Apparently, I supposed to be able to open the Market page of my app by querying an intent with an URL like: market://details?id=app_id where app_id seems to be the package name: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=5c8501d73226fad8hl=en However, while this seems to indeed open the Market app with the details activity, it always gives me A Server error occured. I'm trying both launching the intent through code, as well as on an adb shell as, say: am start market://details?id=com.NamcoNetworks.PacMan Neither works. Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] market://details not working?
Apparently, I'm supposed to be able to open my app in the Android market by querying an Intent with an URL like: market://details?id=app_id app_id seems to be the package name, e.g. say com.NamcoNetworks.PacMan See for example: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=5c8501d73226fad8hl=en However, while this seems to open the Market app's detail page, it always gives me the A server error occured message. I've tried both using an app: Intent intent = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_VIEW); intent.setData(Uri.parse(market://details? id=com.NamcoNetworks.PacMan)); startActivity(intent); As well as through the adb shell: am start market://details?id=com.NamcoNetworks.PacMan Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
