[android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
Hi Jake - Also check out Nexage (www.nexage.com) - we help app developers by: - Having a comprehensive SDK suite (including Android SDK) - Providing you a single integration point to access 65+ ad sources (including AdMob, Millennial Media, Jumptap, etc.) - Selecting the highest yielding ad source to fill your app's ad request We have also integrated with AdWhirl - you can allocate a certain amount of traffic to Nexage and let our proprietary algorithm optimize your revenue. It's free to sign up: www.nexage.com/contact-us Thanks, Jenn On Mar 9, 10:32 am, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: Miguel, I did do some googling and I ended up getting confused! :-) Some general questions about this sort of thing, not vendor-specific: 1) Do developers integrate more than one SDK into an app in order to maximize impressions? Or do you pick one and stick with it? 2) The developer gets paid for every banner that is displayed on an Activity's screen? Or only if the user clicks through? 3) It seems like there is no guarantee that an ad will be displayed which means, of course, I may not get paid. Is that correct? The chance of an ad actually appearing depends on something outside of my control? 4) My app is a widget that runs all the time plus an activity that the user may or may not wish to view in order to see some extra information. If the user does display that activity it is likely to be displayed for just 20 seconds or so - it is view-only with no additional interaction. Is this the wrong sort of app to consider integrating with AdMob? Thanks. ...Jake MM == Miguel Morales therevolti...@gmail.com writes: MM I use admob andmobclix. They're both super easy to integrate. MM Just google some things like admob vsmobclixand you'll see what MM people have to say. MM On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: Would anyone mind sharing their experiences with the various Mobile Advertising sites and the pros and cons? Seems like most people use AdMob. Any reason why them over someone else? -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en MM -- MM ~ Jeremiah:9:23-24 MM Android 2D MMORPG:http://solrpg.com/http://www.youtube.com/user/revoltingx MM -- MM You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google MM Groups Android Developers group. MM To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com MM To unsubscribe from this group, send email to MM android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com MM For more options, visit this group at MMhttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
Assuming I can safely place ads in my apps in such a way that they aren't bothered by it, is 10-20 clicks per 1000 an appropriate estimate to use for budgeting? On Mar 11, 9:13 am, Justin Giles jtgi...@gmail.com wrote: Having ads in an app isn't totally fruitless. Look at Angry Birds on Android...what was it? $1 million/month back in November just from ads? The catch is you have to have enough of a user base to make it worthwhile. While there are some here that are making pennies a day on ads, there are others that are making hundreds, if not thousands a day. You need to really evaluate for a particular app if a) does it have enough of a user base to generate many clicks (think about 10-20 clicks per 1000 ad views) and b) do I have a place in my app that I can safely place an ad without angering my users and such that it will be viewed frequently and for longer than 10 seconds. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: So assuming that the majority of users will simply ignore the ads, adding them to an app is not a particularly good way to make any money. I thought you get paid per ad that is displayed even without a click. After all, you still gave the advertiser the eyeballs. LC == LAM Creations LAM_Creations writes: LC You do not get paid per impression and CPM varies a lot daily LC from a few cents - $100+ just depends. LC -- LC You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google LC Groups Android Developers group. LC To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com LC To unsubscribe from this group, send email to LC android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com LC For more options, visit this group at LChttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
So assuming that the majority of users will simply ignore the ads, adding them to an app is not a particularly good way to make any money. I thought you get paid per ad that is displayed even without a click. After all, you still gave the advertiser the eyeballs. LC == LAM Creations LAM_Creations writes: LC You do not get paid per impression and CPM varies a lot daily LC from a few cents - $100+ just depends. LC -- LC You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google LC Groups Android Developers group. LC To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com LC To unsubscribe from this group, send email to LC android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com LC For more options, visit this group at LC http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
Having ads in an app isn't totally fruitless. Look at Angry Birds on Android...what was it? $1 million/month back in November just from ads? The catch is you have to have enough of a user base to make it worthwhile. While there are some here that are making pennies a day on ads, there are others that are making hundreds, if not thousands a day. You need to really evaluate for a particular app if a) does it have enough of a user base to generate many clicks (think about 10-20 clicks per 1000 ad views) and b) do I have a place in my app that I can safely place an ad without angering my users and such that it will be viewed frequently and for longer than 10 seconds. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: So assuming that the majority of users will simply ignore the ads, adding them to an app is not a particularly good way to make any money. I thought you get paid per ad that is displayed even without a click. After all, you still gave the advertiser the eyeballs. LC == LAM Creations LAM_Creations writes: LC You do not get paid per impression and CPM varies a lot daily LC from a few cents - $100+ just depends. LC -- LC You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google LC Groups Android Developers group. LC To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com LC To unsubscribe from this group, send email to LC android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com LC For more options, visit this group at LC http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: So assuming that the majority of users will simply ignore the ads, adding them to an app is not a particularly good way to make any money. If you write a good app it will be used a lot thereby showing a lot of ads. A lot of ads being shown means more chances for clicks. If you do not even bother to provide a lot of chances for clicks you will certainly not get any. This is the way it works. I thought you get paid per ad that is displayed even without a click. No. That's the way it was back in 1995, this is now. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
$0.20 per click sounds good. What is a typical amount per impression? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
Thanks for the heads up about APP/Leads. I looked into it, and will definitely add it to my list of options. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
It is a little more than just clicking but to simply answer your question is it is pay per click. In keeping it simple, each click is valued at $0.20 - $1 in my experience and you can give higher valued ads more priority. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
You do not get paid per impression and CPM varies a lot daily from a few cents - $100+ just depends. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
Miguel, I did do some googling and I ended up getting confused! :-) Some general questions about this sort of thing, not vendor-specific: 1) Do developers integrate more than one SDK into an app in order to maximize impressions? Or do you pick one and stick with it? 2) The developer gets paid for every banner that is displayed on an Activity's screen? Or only if the user clicks through? 3) It seems like there is no guarantee that an ad will be displayed which means, of course, I may not get paid. Is that correct? The chance of an ad actually appearing depends on something outside of my control? 4) My app is a widget that runs all the time plus an activity that the user may or may not wish to view in order to see some extra information. If the user does display that activity it is likely to be displayed for just 20 seconds or so - it is view-only with no additional interaction. Is this the wrong sort of app to consider integrating with AdMob? Thanks. ...Jake MM == Miguel Morales therevolti...@gmail.com writes: MM I use admob and mobclix. They're both super easy to integrate. MM Just google some things like admob vs mobclix and you'll see what MM people have to say. MM On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: Would anyone mind sharing their experiences with the various Mobile Advertising sites and the pros and cons? Seems like most people use AdMob. Any reason why them over someone else? -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en MM -- MM ~ Jeremiah:9:23-24 MM Android 2D MMORPG: http://solrpg.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/revoltingx MM -- MM You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google MM Groups Android Developers group. MM To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com MM To unsubscribe from this group, send email to MM android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com MM For more options, visit this group at MM http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: 4) My app is a widget that runs all the time plus an activity that the user may or may not wish to view in order to see some extra information. If the user does display that activity it is likely to be displayed for just 20 seconds or so - it is view-only with no additional interaction. Is this the wrong sort of app to consider integrating with AdMob? I think you answered your own question: using ads this way is utterly pointless. Most of us make nearly nothing on ads in full-blown, interactive apps. You will probably make exactly nothing. I would consider a donate option in there instead. Or a link to the full version, if you have one. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
I think you answered your own question: using ads this way is utterly pointless. Most of us make nearly nothing on ads in full-blown, interactive apps. You will probably make exactly nothing. I would consider a donate option in there instead. Or a link to the full version, if you have one. I concur with that assessment. The user is more likely to click on an ad that has been there a while after they have experienced the app. Very unlikely they will click in 20 seconds. Also, in regards to using multiple ad networks it is best to use multiple ad providers and use a moderation service like Mobclix or AdWhirl to maximize your impressions. For instance if AdMob is giving very few impressions one day, these services will rollback to another provider you have specified and try go get an impression from them, etc. Great way to maximize impressions, but also adds some bloat to your application. Another thing you need to be aware of is that several of the ad companies require *A LOT* of permissions that, IMHO, are not needed. I typically stick with the ad companies that only require the INTERNET permission. Users are usually OK with that permission, it's the others like READ_PHONE_STATE that gets them complaining quite a lot. Anyway, there are a lot of ad companies out there. The best thing to do is sign up with both AdWhirl and Mobclix (free to sign up, no obligation required) and take a peek at the ad providers they support. Pick and choose from those lists, implement, and watch the pennies roll in! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
I have been using Admob but recently I tried Ad/Leads by Pontiflex. It is a different type of advertising the has much higher payouts. For me the payout has been 10 to 20 times greater than Admob. It allows users to select products they would like to hear more about with out ever leaving your app. They are full screen ads that show three ads at once. You could have it launch when ever the user launched your activity or every X number of launches. The developer functions are kinda a pain to work with but the payout is worth it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
Do you get paid only if the user clicks an ad? Or you get paid just for showing the ad in the first place? LC == LAM Creations LAM_Creations writes: LC I have been using Admob but recently I tried Ad/Leads by LC Pontiflex. It is a different type of advertising the has much LC higher payouts. For me the payout has been 10 to 20 times greater LC than Admob. It allows users to select products they would like to LC hear more about with out ever leaving your app. They are full LC screen ads that show three ads at once. You could have it launch LC when ever the user launched your activity or every X number of LC launches. The developer functions are kinda a pain to work with LC but the payout is worth it. LC -- LC You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google LC Groups Android Developers group. LC To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com LC To unsubscribe from this group, send email to LC android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com LC For more options, visit this group at LC http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Which Mobile Advertising Site?
Jake, I can only speak for myself, I don't know how other developers handle this. 1) Do developers integrate more than one SDK into an app in order to maximize impressions? Or do you pick one and stick with it? I integrate both the mobclix and admob sdk to increase impressions and place more than one ad in a layout. 2) The developer gets paid for every banner that is displayed on an Activity's screen? Or only if the user clicks through? Depends on the ad network. 3) It seems like there is no guarantee that an ad will be displayed which means, of course, I may not get paid. Is that correct? The chance of an ad actually appearing depends on something outside of my control? Yes this is correct, however the sdks typically give you a notice if no ad was loaded so you can request an ad from a different provider. Sometimes, they do this automatically. 4) My app is a widget that runs all the time plus an activity that the user may or may not wish to view in order to see some extra information. If the user does display that activity it is likely to be displayed for just 20 seconds or so - it is view-only with no additional interaction. Is this the wrong sort of app to consider integrating with AdMob? Yeah, ad revenue is not too much. In my app, I plan to add a store where they can remove the ads, or donate. Ad/Leads seems really interesting for a game because a full screen ad can be shown in between levels. Their site is pretty scarce on information for developers (at least from a quick browsing.) This might be a good option for you since that activity is called every so often and the users who want that functionality shouldn't mind sitting through some ads to reach it. Thanks. ...Jake MM == Miguel Morales therevolti...@gmail.com writes: MM I use admob and mobclix. They're both super easy to integrate. MM Just google some things like admob vs mobclix and you'll see what MM people have to say. MM On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: Would anyone mind sharing their experiences with the various Mobile Advertising sites and the pros and cons? Seems like most people use AdMob. Any reason why them over someone else? -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en MM -- MM ~ Jeremiah:9:23-24 MM Android 2D MMORPG: http://solrpg.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/revoltingx MM -- MM You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google MM Groups Android Developers group. MM To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com MM To unsubscribe from this group, send email to MM android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com MM For more options, visit this group at MM http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- ~ Jeremiah:9:23-24 Android 2D MMORPG: http://solrpg.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/revoltingx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
