[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
I bet Google is consulting their lawyers. Thats what is taking so much time. Whatever they do, whatever they decide about 1.6/2.0 updates in middle of contest - you will soon see lawsuits filed against them. They are really screwed this time. -abhi On Oct 28, 1:04 pm, maennj maan.naj...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure they have good reason about it. There are plenty of reasons that can delay the process. Maybe they were trying to find a solution to rectify the damage done by Android 1.6 release. Maybe it's better for us all if they're reviewing all apps, because honestly, end user community is not reliable enough to make judgments especially with 100 reviews per app. Look at some comments on every successful or unsuccessful application in Market, you will see what I mean, subjectivity hurts us all. I would give Google the benefit of the doubt. Good luck everyone. On Oct 28, 1:54 pm, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: This is why I didn't bother withADC2and also why I'm always wary of any other people that come around these forums proposing to expose our apps to the world. Because it's always just talk, and I have yet to see results from any of them. It's like they all jumped on the android bandwagon but don't know what the heck they are doing/talking about. It gets old being disappointed all the time with it. -niko On Oct 28, 12:43 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: comedy Hey, they haven't contacted me yet and I'm sure at least one of my apps will make it into the next round... /comedy -John Coryat Radar Now! What Zip Code? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
whatever they decide about 1.6/2.0 updates in middle of contest - you will soon see lawsuits The terms do mention higher versions of Android in the judging sections: http://code.google.com/android/adc/adc2_terms.html 8. FIRST ROUND JUDGING ... Any user of an Android-power handset running Android 1.5 or higher ... 9. SECOND ROUND JUDGING ... any end user of an Android-power handset running Android 1.5 or higher Still, it would be nice if something could be done to help devs with broken apps. I wonder if there is some option besides letting everyone submit an update, which may not even be allowable by the terms. Maybe the judging app could run apps in a compatibility layer, or a patch to 1.6 addressing the issues could be rushed out. Those are probably too much work to be practical, I guess. Especially with the holiday shopping season here. Helping carriers and manufacturers get phones out to take advantage of that is probably a high priority for Google. On Nov 4, 6:56 pm, nathabhis...@gmail.com nathabhis...@gmail.com wrote: I bet Google is consulting their lawyers. Thats what is taking so much time. Whatever they do, whatever they decide about 1.6/2.0 updates in middle of contest - you will soon see lawsuits filed against them. They are really screwed this time. -abhi On Oct 28, 1:04 pm, maennj maan.naj...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure they have good reason about it. There are plenty of reasons that can delay the process. Maybe they were trying to find a solution to rectify the damage done by Android 1.6 release. Maybe it's better for us all if they're reviewing all apps, because honestly, end user community is not reliable enough to make judgments especially with 100 reviews per app. Look at some comments on every successful or unsuccessful application in Market, you will see what I mean, subjectivity hurts us all. I would give Google the benefit of the doubt. Good luck everyone. On Oct 28, 1:54 pm, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: This is why I didn't bother withADC2and also why I'm always wary of any other people that come around these forums proposing to expose our apps to the world. Because it's always just talk, and I have yet to see results from any of them. It's like they all jumped on the android bandwagon but don't know what the heck they are doing/talking about. It gets old being disappointed all the time with it. -niko On Oct 28, 12:43 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: comedy Hey, they haven't contacted me yet and I'm sure at least one of my apps will make it into the next round... /comedy -John Coryat Radar Now! What Zip Code? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Yes, G has made a royal stinking mess of ADC2. Yes, G has alienated their hardcore small-to-medium-sized dev teams by being silent and frustrating the hell out everyone Yes, G has done the worst job at coordinating major releases of a platform that I've seen in a long time from anyone Yes, G overshot their dev support infrastructure by probably a year or more But, have they put themselves in legal jeopardy from a few whiny contestants that most likely form their legal opinions by watching Matlock and L.A. Law reruns? I think not. On Nov 4, 6:56 pm, nathabhis...@gmail.com nathabhis...@gmail.com wrote: I bet Google is consulting their lawyers. Thats what is taking so much time. Whatever they do, whatever they decide about 1.6/2.0 updates in middle of contest - you will soon see lawsuits filed against them. They are really screwed this time. -abhi On Oct 28, 1:04 pm, maennj maan.naj...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure they have good reason about it. There are plenty of reasons that can delay the process. Maybe they were trying to find a solution to rectify the damage done by Android 1.6 release. Maybe it's better for us all if they're reviewing all apps, because honestly, end user community is not reliable enough to make judgments especially with 100 reviews per app. Look at some comments on every successful or unsuccessful application in Market, you will see what I mean, subjectivity hurts us all. I would give Google the benefit of the doubt. Good luck everyone. On Oct 28, 1:54 pm, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: This is why I didn't bother withADC2and also why I'm always wary of any other people that come around these forums proposing to expose our apps to the world. Because it's always just talk, and I have yet to see results from any of them. It's like they all jumped on the android bandwagon but don't know what the heck they are doing/talking about. It gets old being disappointed all the time with it. -niko On Oct 28, 12:43 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: comedy Hey, they haven't contacted me yet and I'm sure at least one of my apps will make it into the next round... /comedy -John Coryat Radar Now! What Zip Code? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
You have a better chance than most. I like your stuff John. Seriously though, black helicopters aside, I'm convinced that G has done the NDA thing for round 2, and given a chance to update to 1.6/2.0. Most people can keep their mouths shut for a few weeks if given a 1-in-7 chance at winning at least $25K plus a truck-load of publicity. That being said, if you watch this group closely, their have been hints that less-than-sober devs have left to support my theory. On Oct 28, 12:43 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: comedy Hey, they haven't contacted me yet and I'm sure at least one of my apps will make it into the next round... /comedy -John Coryat Radar Now! What Zip Code? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
If Google tells you that posting about it means instant disqualification then I don't think it would be worth the risk considering only the people moving forward would know. But I see your point. News like that would almost certainly leak if not from the people advancing to the next round and that news would definitely spread considering how many people are searching for those results. On Oct 26, 3:50 pm, ander...@phdgaming.com ander...@phdgaming.com wrote: I'm sure someone would have posted if this was the case. As far as I can tell, there is just no information publicly available at this time and all of us are in the dark. On Oct 26, 4:04 pm, dadical keyes...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is that if you haven't received a notification from Google about being in round two by now, you didn't make it. I'd wager that they gave an upgrade period to devs that made the cut so that they could deal with the fairly significant issues introduced in the mid- contest upgrade to Donut. Messy, messy. Lots of balls in the air and too many jugglers it seems... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
comedy Hey, they haven't contacted me yet and I'm sure at least one of my apps will make it into the next round... /comedy -John Coryat Radar Now! What Zip Code? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
This is why I didn't bother with ADC2 and also why I'm always wary of any other people that come around these forums proposing to expose our apps to the world. Because it's always just talk, and I have yet to see results from any of them. It's like they all jumped on the android bandwagon but don't know what the heck they are doing/talking about. It gets old being disappointed all the time with it. -niko On Oct 28, 12:43 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: comedy Hey, they haven't contacted me yet and I'm sure at least one of my apps will make it into the next round... /comedy -John Coryat Radar Now! What Zip Code? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
I'm sure they have good reason about it. There are plenty of reasons that can delay the process. Maybe they were trying to find a solution to rectify the damage done by Android 1.6 release. Maybe it's better for us all if they're reviewing all apps, because honestly, end user community is not reliable enough to make judgments especially with 100 reviews per app. Look at some comments on every successful or unsuccessful application in Market, you will see what I mean, subjectivity hurts us all. I would give Google the benefit of the doubt. Good luck everyone. On Oct 28, 1:54 pm, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: This is why I didn't bother with ADC2 and also why I'm always wary of any other people that come around these forums proposing to expose our apps to the world. Because it's always just talk, and I have yet to see results from any of them. It's like they all jumped on the android bandwagon but don't know what the heck they are doing/talking about. It gets old being disappointed all the time with it. -niko On Oct 28, 12:43 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: comedy Hey, they haven't contacted me yet and I'm sure at least one of my apps will make it into the next round... /comedy -John Coryat Radar Now! What Zip Code? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
Google said that the first round would be entirely decided by user voting. Are we to believe that they are reviewing every rating by hand? This is a joke. The finalists will obviously be hand-chosen, disregarding the first round results. This may seem like an unfounded accusation, but how long does it take to tally votes. This is Google we're talking about here. Every step of this competition has been a mystery. Does Google think they can just promise the millions and disregard the process, again? One would expect that developers that have submitted apps to ADC2 would have received at least a confirmation email with submission, an explanation of delays, some hint of timing. But no. There has literally been ZERO communication from Google to the developers that have submitted. The only information we have been given is the currently public information on the ADC2 info site and maybe 2 blog posts. This is a joke. Expect to see only the big name apps in the second round, that you are already familiar with. For many developers, who devoted their entire summer to a project for ADC, the overall experience has been a serious disappointment. Just my 2¢ Paul On Oct 26, 2:11 pm, Tumaru tum...@gmail.com wrote: i was wondering when the secound round would start, i've been waiting for what seems like weeks now for something that was said to be only a couple of days away. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
My guess is that if you haven't received a notification from Google about being in round two by now, you didn't make it. I'd wager that they gave an upgrade period to devs that made the cut so that they could deal with the fairly significant issues introduced in the mid- contest upgrade to Donut. Messy, messy. Lots of balls in the air and too many jugglers it seems... iPaul Pro wrote: Google said that the first round would be entirely decided by user voting. Are we to believe that they are reviewing every rating by hand? This is a joke. The finalists will obviously be hand-chosen, disregarding the first round results. This may seem like an unfounded accusation, but how long does it take to tally votes. This is Google we're talking about here. Every step of this competition has been a mystery. Does Google think they can just promise the millions and disregard the process, again? One would expect that developers that have submitted apps to ADC2 would have received at least a confirmation email with submission, an explanation of delays, some hint of timing. But no. There has literally been ZERO communication from Google to the developers that have submitted. The only information we have been given is the currently public information on the ADC2 info site and maybe 2 blog posts. This is a joke. Expect to see only the big name apps in the second round, that you are already familiar with. For many developers, who devoted their entire summer to a project for ADC, the overall experience has been a serious disappointment. Just my 2¢ Paul On Oct 26, 2:11 pm, Tumaru tum...@gmail.com wrote: i was wondering when the secound round would start, i've been waiting for what seems like weeks now for something that was said to be only a couple of days away. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: adc 2 Second Round
I'm sure someone would have posted if this was the case. As far as I can tell, there is just no information publicly available at this time and all of us are in the dark. On Oct 26, 4:04 pm, dadical keyes...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is that if you haven't received a notification from Google about being in round two by now, you didn't make it. I'd wager that they gave an upgrade period to devs that made the cut so that they could deal with the fairly significant issues introduced in the mid- contest upgrade to Donut. Messy, messy. Lots of balls in the air and too many jugglers it seems... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
