Re: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for timeslots

[Fries, Steffen]

Hi Toerless,

Just uploaded the slides. I also changed the name from Owen to my name for the 
update o BRSKI-AE in the agenda.

Best regards
Steffen

> -Original Message-
> From: Toerless Eckert 
> Sent: Mittwoch, 8. April 2020 05:13
> To: Fries, Steffen (CT RDA CST) 
> Cc: anima@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for timeslots
> 
> Yepp, time is fixed, agenda uploaded, posted to list.
> All you need to do is upload or send slides ;-) (if you already sent them, i 
> still
> appreciate if you try the upload...,  will check tomorrow evening)
> 
> Cheers
> Toerless
> 
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 07:09:50AM +, Fries, Steffen wrote:
> > Hi Toerless,
> >
> > Just to be sure I did not miss anything, is the schedule for the meeting on
> Thursday already fixed? I haven't seen an update, yet.
> > Do you collect the slides in advance for the meeting?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Steffen
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Anima  On Behalf Of [ext] Fries,
> > > Steffen
> > > Sent: Donnerstag, 26. März 2020 09:14
> > > To: Toerless Eckert ; anima@ietf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for
> > > timeslots
> > >
> > > Hi Toerless,
> > >
> > > Based on the submitted  update of the draft on BRSKI-AE, I would
> > > like to give a status update on the document and also ask for WG
> adoption.
> > >
> > > Name of time slot: BRSKI-AE Updates
> > > Name of draft(s): draft-fries-anima-brski-async-enroll-03
> > > Time requested: 10-15 min
> > > Presenter name(s): Steffen Fries
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Steffen
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Anima  On Behalf Of Toerless Eckert
> > > > Sent: Donnerstag, 26. März 2020 00:14
> > > > To: anima@ietf.org
> > > > Subject: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for
> > > > timeslots
> > > >
> > > > I have scheduled an ANIMA interim for 04/09/2020, 8 AM PDT (1500
> > > > UTC), via webex.
> > > >
> > > > Please re-send requests for slots, i will poll those with existing
> > > > WG drafts to see if they think an update is appropriate.
> > > >
> > > > Not yet scheduled by secretariat, visible here:
> > > >
> > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/pending
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Toerless
> > > >
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Re: [Anima] Last Call: (An Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)) to Proposed Standard

[Eric Vyncke (evyncke)]

Thank you Brian for the review: I agree with you about the improved quality and 
good to know about your implementation

-éric

-Original Message-
From: Brian E Carpenter 
Date: Wednesday, 8 April 2020 at 04:15
To: "last-c...@ietf.org" 
Cc: "anima-cha...@ietf.org" , Eric Vyncke 
, "draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-pl...@ietf.org" 
, "anima@ietf.org" 
, "jiangsh...@huawei.com" 
Subject: Re: [Anima] Last Call: 
 (An Autonomic Control Plane 
(ACP)) to Proposed Standard

I have looked carefully at the diffs since the previous Last Call for this 
document and I believe that they all represent improvements. Obviously it's a 
very complex document and I have no doubt there will be future changes in the 
light of experience, but from my point of view it meets the requirements for a 
Proposed Standard (assuming normal copy-editing).

Specifically I've checked the parts that concern GRASP, as an author of the 
approved draft-ietf-anima-grasp-15, and they are correct in my opinion. In 
particular, I coded a demonstration of the two GRASP objectives defined in this 
draft a couple of years ago, showing that those definitions were correct and 
implementable. I have retested this demo today. Code at:
https://github.com/becarpenter/graspy/blob/master/ACPcontainer.py
https://github.com/becarpenter/graspy/blob/master/ACPnewby.py

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 08-Apr-20 01:34, The IESG wrote:
> 
> The IESG has received a request from the Autonomic Networking Integrated
> Model and Approach WG (anima) to consider the following document: - 'An
> Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)'
>as Proposed Standard
> 
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits 
final
> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> last-c...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2020-04-21. Exceptionally, comments 
may
> be sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the 
beginning
> of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
> 
> Abstract
> 
> 
>Autonomic functions need a control plane to communicate, which
>depends on some addressing and routing.  This Autonomic Control Plane
>should ideally be self-managing, and as independent as possible of
>configuration.  This document defines such a plane and calls it the
>"Autonomic Control Plane", with the primary use as a control plane
>for autonomic functions.  It also serves as a "virtual out-of-band
>channel" for Operations, Administration and Management (OAM)
>communications over a network that provides automatically configured
>hop-by-hop authenticated and encrypted communications via
>automatically configured IPv6 even when the network is not
>configured, or misconfigured.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/
> 
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/ballot/
> 
> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
> 
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2407/
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Anima] Pending ANIMA drafts

[Brian E Carpenter]

Hi everybody,

Comments on the following drafts have been sadly lacking since IETF 106. As a 
result I have not asked for time on the April 9th agenda, especially since it 
will be 3 a.m. on April 10th for me.

As a reminder, the base GRASP specification is sitting quietly in the RFC 
Editor queue waiting for a missing normative reference (the ACP draft).

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-anima-grasp-api

This version was based on several reviews and there were no changes requested 
during IETF 106. I would like to ask for WG Last Call *now* on this draft to 
see if there is consensus. (It's Informational, like most IETF work on APIs. It 
is also about to expire; I would rather get some more comments before 
refreshing it.)


https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-anima-asa-guidelines
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-anima-grasp-bulk
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-anima-l2acp-scenarios

I would really like more feedback on these drafts. The first two are old enough 
that either the WG should adopt them, or they should be discarded. Without your 
feedback, nothing will happen.

The l2acp draft has just expired, and will be revised shortly.

Stay well
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Re: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for timeslots

[Toerless Eckert]

Yepp, time is fixed, agenda uploaded, posted to list.
All you need to do is upload or send slides ;-)
(if you already sent them, i still appreciate if you try the upload...,
 will check tomorrow evening)

Cheers
Toerless

On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 07:09:50AM +, Fries, Steffen wrote:
> Hi Toerless,
> 
> Just to be sure I did not miss anything, is the schedule for the meeting on 
> Thursday already fixed? I haven't seen an update, yet. 
> Do you collect the slides in advance for the meeting?
> 
> Best regards
> Steffen
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Anima  On Behalf Of [ext] Fries, Steffen
> > Sent: Donnerstag, 26. März 2020 09:14
> > To: Toerless Eckert ; anima@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for timeslots
> > 
> > Hi Toerless,
> > 
> > Based on the submitted  update of the draft on BRSKI-AE, I would like to 
> > give
> > a status update on the document and also ask for WG adoption.
> > 
> > Name of time slot: BRSKI-AE Updates
> > Name of draft(s): draft-fries-anima-brski-async-enroll-03
> > Time requested: 10-15 min
> > Presenter name(s): Steffen Fries
> > 
> > Best regards
> > Steffen
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Anima  On Behalf Of Toerless Eckert
> > > Sent: Donnerstag, 26. März 2020 00:14
> > > To: anima@ietf.org
> > > Subject: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for
> > > timeslots
> > >
> > > I have scheduled an ANIMA interim for 04/09/2020, 8 AM PDT (1500 UTC),
> > > via webex.
> > >
> > > Please re-send requests for slots, i will poll those with existing WG
> > > drafts to see if they think an update is appropriate.
> > >
> > > Not yet scheduled by secretariat, visible here:
> > >
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/pending
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Toerless
> > >
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[Anima] Webex testing: Re: Agenda/Logistics for ANIMA virtual interrim 04/09, 15:00 - 17:00 UTC

[Toerless Eckert]

Btw: If you're unsure about your webex experience, join 15 mins before the 
ANIMA 
meeting starts to test your webex.

Cheers
Toerless

In-Reply-To: <20200408031155.ga19...@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>

On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 05:11:55AM +0200, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Crisp short agenda for now, so if anyone has to propose more, please bring it 
> up.
> This is also on the etherpad, so if you want to propose more , just add it at 
> the
> end of the agenda on Etherpad.
> 
> If you can not attend due to Time Zone issues, but would like something to be 
> said
> about some work of yours (or anything else), pls. feel free to send email to 
> the chairs and
> we can bring it in front of the WG.
> 
> For those on the agenda, pls. upload your slides. I sent an email for the
> non-WG chairs how to do it, else send slides to the chairs.
> 
> Logistics:
> ==
> 
> What: ANIMA 107 Virtual Interim 1
> When: 15:00 - 17:00 UTC Thursday, April 9, 2020 
> Where: Webex
> 
> Available During Session:
> 
>   Jabber:  xmpp:an...@jabber.ietf.org?join
>   Etherpad:
> https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-anima-01
>   ICal:
> https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=mdbc29b738629ddb4e001aaf3448455a2
>   Slides:  
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-anima-01/session/anima
>   
>   BLUESHEETS: if you haven't already, please sign the Bluesheet located at 
> the bottom on the Etherpad page here: 
>
> https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-anima-01
>   
>   WebEx Chat:  For virtual queue control (type "+q" and "-q" to enter/leave)
>   WebEx A/V:   For session (see below for info), also chair slides
> 
>  JOIN BY WEBEX:
> URL: 
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> Meeting number (access code): 614 444 982
> Meeting password: AMvJRJwr392
> 
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>   Slides:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-anima-01/session/anima
> 
> Agenda
> ==
>   
> Administrivia  - scribes, minutes, rules, introduction of our new AD, etc.
> Toerless / Sheng
> 15 minutes
> 
> BRSKI status / update
> Michael Richardson
> draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-40
> 20 minutes
> 
> ACP status / update
> Toerless Eckert
> draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-24
> 20 minutes
> 
> Support of asynchronous Enrollment in BRSKI 
> draft-fries-anima-brski-async-enroll-03 
> Owen Friel
> 15 minutes
> 
> Intent Distribution
> draft-ietf-anima-grasp-distribution-00
> Xun Xiao
> 15 min
> 
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[Anima] Agenda/Logistics for ANIMA virtual interrim 04/09, 15:00 - 17:00 UTC

[Toerless Eckert]

Crisp short agenda for now, so if anyone has to propose more, please bring it 
up.
This is also on the etherpad, so if you want to propose more , just add it at 
the
end of the agenda on Etherpad.

If you can not attend due to Time Zone issues, but would like something to be 
said
about some work of yours (or anything else), pls. feel free to send email to 
the chairs and
we can bring it in front of the WG.

For those on the agenda, pls. upload your slides. I sent an email for the
non-WG chairs how to do it, else send slides to the chairs.

Logistics:
==

What: ANIMA 107 Virtual Interim 1
When: 15:00 - 17:00 UTC Thursday, April 9, 2020 
Where: Webex

Available During Session:

  Jabber:  xmpp:an...@jabber.ietf.org?join
  Etherpad:https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-anima-01
  ICal:
https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=mdbc29b738629ddb4e001aaf3448455a2
  Slides:  
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-anima-01/session/anima
  
  BLUESHEETS: if you haven't already, please sign the Bluesheet located at the 
bottom on the Etherpad page here: 
   https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-anima-01
  
  WebEx Chat:  For virtual queue control (type "+q" and "-q" to enter/leave)
  WebEx A/V:   For session (see below for info), also chair slides

 JOIN BY WEBEX:
URL: 
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Meeting number (access code): 614 444 982
Meeting password: AMvJRJwr392


Available Post Session:
  Recording: WebEx recording be made available after the meeting.
  Jabber Logs:   https://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/anima
  Etherpad:  https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-107-anima
  Slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-anima-01/session/anima

Agenda
==

Administrivia  - scribes, minutes, rules, introduction of our new AD, etc.
Toerless / Sheng
15 minutes

BRSKI status / update
Michael Richardson
draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-40
20 minutes

ACP status / update
Toerless Eckert
draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-24
20 minutes

Support of asynchronous Enrollment in BRSKI 
draft-fries-anima-brski-async-enroll-03 
Owen Friel
15 minutes

Intent Distribution
draft-ietf-anima-grasp-distribution-00
Xun Xiao
15 min

Anything else / Open Mic ?


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Re: [Anima] Last Call: (An Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)) to Proposed Standard

[Brian E Carpenter]

I have looked carefully at the diffs since the previous Last Call for this 
document and I believe that they all represent improvements. Obviously it's a 
very complex document and I have no doubt there will be future changes in the 
light of experience, but from my point of view it meets the requirements for a 
Proposed Standard (assuming normal copy-editing).

Specifically I've checked the parts that concern GRASP, as an author of the 
approved draft-ietf-anima-grasp-15, and they are correct in my opinion. In 
particular, I coded a demonstration of the two GRASP objectives defined in this 
draft a couple of years ago, showing that those definitions were correct and 
implementable. I have retested this demo today. Code at:
https://github.com/becarpenter/graspy/blob/master/ACPcontainer.py
https://github.com/becarpenter/graspy/blob/master/ACPnewby.py

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 08-Apr-20 01:34, The IESG wrote:
> 
> The IESG has received a request from the Autonomic Networking Integrated
> Model and Approach WG (anima) to consider the following document: - 'An
> Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)'
>as Proposed Standard
> 
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> last-c...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2020-04-21. Exceptionally, comments may
> be sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning
> of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
> 
> Abstract
> 
> 
>Autonomic functions need a control plane to communicate, which
>depends on some addressing and routing.  This Autonomic Control Plane
>should ideally be self-managing, and as independent as possible of
>configuration.  This document defines such a plane and calls it the
>"Autonomic Control Plane", with the primary use as a control plane
>for autonomic functions.  It also serves as a "virtual out-of-band
>channel" for Operations, Administration and Management (OAM)
>communications over a network that provides automatically configured
>hop-by-hop authenticated and encrypted communications via
>automatically configured IPv6 even when the network is not
>configured, or misconfigured.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/
> 
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/ballot/
> 
> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
> 
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2407/
> 
> 
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Re: [Anima] Webex meeting invitation: IETF 2020 ANIMA virtual meeting 1 (Webex)

[Toerless Eckert]

Thank you so much for noting, Panwei. I just fixed the webex
and the updated webex was sent to the WG.

I can check however much i want to transfer dates correctly, 
and calculate time zone offsets correctly, but this always
happens to me over and over. So sorry.

Cheers
Toerless

On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 01:39:21AM +, Panwei (William) wrote:
> Hi Chairs,
> 
> On the datatracker webpage, it is said that ANIMA meeting is 2020-04-09 15:00 
> ?C 17:00 UTC. But this WebEx meeting notification shows it is 13:00 ?C 15:00 
> UTC.
> I??d like to double check which one is right.
> 
> Regards & Thanks!
>  Wei Pan
>  Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
> 
> -Original Appointment-
> From: ANIMA Working Group [mailto:anima-cha...@ietf.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 9:19 AM
> To: anima@ietf.org
> Subject: [Anima] Webex meeting invitation: IETF 2020 ANIMA virtual meeting 1 
> (Webex)
> When: 2020??4??9 6:00-8:00America/Los_Angeles??
> Where: 
> https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m378d8c28c45a9f786868c586138a0450
> 
> 
> ANIMA Working Group invites you to join this Webex meeting.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Anima] Webex meeting changed: IETF 2020 ANIMA virtual meeting 1 (Webex)

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[Anima] FYI: Pls fix: Wrong webex for anima interim created by datatracker

[Toerless Eckert]

Dear secretariat (if not right recipient for thi, pls. tell me who)
Cc: wgchairs, maybe someone listening here knows how to fix this.
FYI: anima for the group wondering why they got a new webex invite.

I just noticed, that the webex listed on datatracker for the virtual ANIMA 
meeting
is wrong, e.g.:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-anima-01/session/anima

Shows a webex URL of 
https://cisco.webex.com/cisco/j.php?MTID=m16f8e0d12f6d12c3c37984c73f20efb8
which is not a valid IETF webex URL and i fear it wouldn't work (it gives
weird info when i now click on it).

[ Expanation ?  I did create the virtual meeting request simply
  through the standard datatracker page designated for it. The only way
  how i can explain this wrong creation of the webex meeting information
  is that datatracker, when automatically creating the webex session
  through my browser somehow used another personal webex account i have
  (somewhere in the webex cookies on my browsers ?) instead of the
  anima WG chair webex account, and therefore choose the wrong webex
  server.  Obviously, i had to be logged into datatracker with my anima
  chair account to even create the interrim, so even though this is
  the only explanation i can bring up, it doesn't make sense to me either. ]

In any case. As a poor double victim of weird webex account management,
i would like to ask:

If possible, please fix the webex URLs and dialin info for the
virtual ANIMA meeting on datatracker (above URL) to a correct ietf webex
that i have just created for the purpose. Otherwise, folks might
simply go to the datatracker page, click on the webex and end up
nowhere.

Here is the correct webex info:

IETF 2020 ANIMA virtual meeting 1 (Webex)
Thursday, April 9, 2020
6:00 am  |  (UTC-07:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)  |  2 hrs
Meeting number (access code): 614 444 982
Meeting password: AMvJRJwr392

When it's time, join the meeting.
https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m378d8c28c45a9f786868c586138a0450

Thank you so much
Toerless

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Re: [Anima] Webex meeting invitation: IETF 2020 ANIMA virtual meeting 1 (Webex)

[Panwei (William)]

Hi Chairs,

On the datatracker webpage, it is said that ANIMA meeting is 2020-04-09 15:00 
�C 17:00 UTC. But this WebEx meeting notification shows it is 13:00 �C 15:00 
UTC.
I’d like to double check which one is right.

Regards & Thanks!
潘伟 Wei Pan
华为技术有限公司 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.

-Original Appointment-
From: ANIMA Working Group [mailto:anima-cha...@ietf.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 9:19 AM
To: anima@ietf.org
Subject: [Anima] Webex meeting invitation: IETF 2020 ANIMA virtual meeting 1 
(Webex)
When: 2020年4月9日星期四 6:00-8:00America/Los_Angeles。
Where: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m378d8c28c45a9f786868c586138a0450


ANIMA Working Group invites you to join this Webex meeting.




Meeting number (access code): 614 444 982


Meeting password: AMvJRJwr392




Thursday, April 9, 2020

6:00 am | (UTC-07:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada) | 2 hrs




Join 
meeting





Join by phone

Tap to call in from a mobile device (attendees only)

1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll 
number (US/Canada)

1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free 
number (US/Canada)

Global call-in 
numbers
 | Toll-free calling 
restrictions




Join from a video system or application

Dial 61...@ietf.webex.com<%20sip:61...@ietf.webex.com>

You can also dial 173.243.2.68 and enter your meeting number.




Join using Microsoft Lync or Microsoft Skype for Business

Dial 61982.i...@lync.webex.com<%20sip:61982.i...@lync.webex.com>


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[Anima] Webex meeting invitation: IETF 2020 ANIMA virtual meeting 1 (Webex)

[ANIMA Working Group]

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BEGIN:DAYLIGHT
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END:VTIMEZONE
BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTAMP:20200408T011912Z
ATTENDEE;CN="anima@ietf.org";ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;RSVP=TRUE:MAILTO:anima@ietf.org
ORGANIZER;CN="ANIMA Working Group":MAILTO:anima-cha...@ietf.org
DTSTART;TZID=America/Los_Angeles:20200409T06
DTEND;TZID=America/Los_Angeles:20200409T08
LOCATION:https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m378d8c28c45a9f786868c586138a0450
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SUMMARY:IETF 2020 ANIMA virtual meeting 1 (Webex)
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Re: [Anima] Why a 2nd Last Call ? Re: Last Call: (An Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)) to Proposed Standard

[Michael Richardson]

Eric Vyncke \(evyncke\)  wrote:
> The previous IETF Last Call on this document was in February 2018 for
> revision -13. Since then, the authors have made substantive changes in
> the document and we are now at revision -24. The authors and myself
> believe that the document is ready for IESG evaluation but I, as the
> shepherding AD, consider that the amount of changes requires a new IETF
> Last Call.

I have read the latest document, and I am happy with the result.


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[Anima] ANIMA interrim: please upload your slides yourself!

[Toerless Eckert]

Dear WG, presenters:

Please upload the slides you propose for thursdays ANIMA interrim yourself!

Instructions:
  a) If you do not already have, create an account on datatracker.ietf.org
 On the of the datatracker home page, there is a slider "User",
 use "New Account", follow instructions.

  b) When you are logged in, instead of "User", the slider will show
 your email.

 Go to:
 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-anima-01/session/anima

 There will be a "Propose Slides" button, follow instructions.
 Please use title that is/includes either Title or name of draft
 discused, if proposal for non-draft related topic, add (no draft)
 to title.

Thank you very much
Toerless

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[Anima] Why a 2nd Last Call ? Re: Last Call: (An Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)) to Proposed Standard

[Eric Vyncke (evyncke)]

The previous IETF Last Call on this document was in February 2018 for revision 
-13. Since then, the authors have made substantive changes in the document and 
we are now at revision -24. The authors and myself believe that the document is 
ready for IESG evaluation but I, as the shepherding AD, consider that the 
amount of changes requires a new IETF Last Call.

Thank you for the review and thank you for the authors and the WG for the 
efforts put in this document

Best regards

-éric vyncke

-Original Message-
From:  on behalf of The IESG 
Reply-To: "last-c...@ietf.org" 
Date: Tuesday, 7 April 2020 at 15:35
To: IETF-Announce 
Cc: Sheng Jiang , "jiangsh...@huawei.com" 
, "anima@ietf.org" , Eric Vyncke 
, "anima-cha...@ietf.org" , 
"draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-pl...@ietf.org" 

Subject: Last Call:  (An 
Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)) to Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from the Autonomic Networking Integrated
Model and Approach WG (anima) to consider the following document: - 'An
Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)'
   as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
last-c...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2020-04-21. Exceptionally, comments may
be sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the 
beginning
of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


   Autonomic functions need a control plane to communicate, which
   depends on some addressing and routing.  This Autonomic Control Plane
   should ideally be self-managing, and as independent as possible of
   configuration.  This document defines such a plane and calls it the
   "Autonomic Control Plane", with the primary use as a control plane
   for autonomic functions.  It also serves as a "virtual out-of-band
   channel" for Operations, Administration and Management (OAM)
   communications over a network that provides automatically configured
   hop-by-hop authenticated and encrypted communications via
   automatically configured IPv6 even when the network is not
   configured, or misconfigured.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/

IESG discussion can be tracked via

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/ballot/

The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:

   https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2407/








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[Anima] Last Call: (An Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)) to Proposed Standard

[The IESG]

The IESG has received a request from the Autonomic Networking Integrated
Model and Approach WG (anima) to consider the following document: - 'An
Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)'
   as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
last-c...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2020-04-21. Exceptionally, comments may
be sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning
of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


   Autonomic functions need a control plane to communicate, which
   depends on some addressing and routing.  This Autonomic Control Plane
   should ideally be self-managing, and as independent as possible of
   configuration.  This document defines such a plane and calls it the
   "Autonomic Control Plane", with the primary use as a control plane
   for autonomic functions.  It also serves as a "virtual out-of-band
   channel" for Operations, Administration and Management (OAM)
   communications over a network that provides automatically configured
   hop-by-hop authenticated and encrypted communications via
   automatically configured IPv6 even when the network is not
   configured, or misconfigured.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/ballot/

The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:

   https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2407/






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Re: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for timeslots

[Xun Xiao]

Dear Toerless and ANIMA-chairs,

We would also like to have a 5-min time slot on the virtual meeting to provide 
a short briefing about our draft. We will send you our slides shortly. Thanks.

Best,

Xun Xiao

-Original Message-
From: Anima [mailto:anima-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Toerless Eckert
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:14 AM
To: anima@ietf.org
Subject: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for timeslots

I have scheduled an ANIMA interim for 04/09/2020, 8 AM PDT (1500 UTC), via 
webex.

Please re-send requests for slots, i will poll those with existing WG drafts to 
see if they think an update is appropriate.

Not yet scheduled by secretariat, visible here:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/pending

Cheers
Toerless

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Re: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for timeslots

[Fries, Steffen]

Hi Toerless,

Just to be sure I did not miss anything, is the schedule for the meeting on 
Thursday already fixed? I haven't seen an update, yet. 
Do you collect the slides in advance for the meeting?

Best regards
Steffen

> -Original Message-
> From: Anima  On Behalf Of [ext] Fries, Steffen
> Sent: Donnerstag, 26. März 2020 09:14
> To: Toerless Eckert ; anima@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for timeslots
> 
> Hi Toerless,
> 
> Based on the submitted  update of the draft on BRSKI-AE, I would like to give
> a status update on the document and also ask for WG adoption.
> 
> Name of time slot: BRSKI-AE Updates
> Name of draft(s): draft-fries-anima-brski-async-enroll-03
> Time requested: 10-15 min
> Presenter name(s): Steffen Fries
> 
> Best regards
> Steffen
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Anima  On Behalf Of Toerless Eckert
> > Sent: Donnerstag, 26. März 2020 00:14
> > To: anima@ietf.org
> > Subject: [Anima] ANIMA interim scheduled - Please (re) ask for
> > timeslots
> >
> > I have scheduled an ANIMA interim for 04/09/2020, 8 AM PDT (1500 UTC),
> > via webex.
> >
> > Please re-send requests for slots, i will poll those with existing WG
> > drafts to see if they think an update is appropriate.
> >
> > Not yet scheduled by secretariat, visible here:
> >
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/pending
> >
> > Cheers
> > Toerless
> >
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