[MLL] Cook's Resignation Speech [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2003-03-18 Thread David Quarter

[nothing very noble about his position, from the little I read of the  speech] 


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Cook's resignation speech


Cook received a standing ovation
Here is the full text of Robin Cook's resignation speech in the 
House of Commons, which won applause from some backbenchers in 
unprecedented Commons scenes.


This is the first time for 20 years that I have addressed the 
House from the back benches.

I must confess that I had forgotten how much better the view is 
from here.

None of those 20 years were more enjoyable or more rewarding than 
the past two, in which I have had the immense privilege of serving 
this House as Leader of the House, which were made all the more 
enjoyable, Mr Speaker, by the opportunity of working closely with 
you.

It was frequently the necessity for me as Leader of the House to 
talk my way out of accusations that a statement had been preceded 
by a press interview.

On this occasion I can say with complete confidence that no press 
interview has been given before this statement.

I have chosen to address the House first on why I cannot support a 
war without international agreement or domestic support.

Backing Blair

The present Prime Minister is the most successful leader of the 
Labour party in my lifetime.

I hope that he will continue to be the leader of our party, and I 
hope that he will continue to be successful. I have no sympathy 
with, and I will give no comfort to, those who want to use this 
crisis to displace him.

I applaud the heroic efforts that the prime minister has made in 
trying to secure a second resolution.

I do not think that anybody could have done better than the 
foreign secretary in working to get support for a second 
resolution within the Security Council.

But the very intensity of those attempts underlines how important 
it was to succeed.

Now that those attempts have failed, we cannot pretend that 
getting a second resolution was of no importance.

French intransigence?

France has been at the receiving end of bucket loads of commentary 
in recent days.

It is not France alone that wants more time for inspections. 
Germany wants more time for inspections; Russia wants more time 
for inspections; indeed, at no time have we signed up even the 
minimum necessary to carry a second resolution.

We delude ourselves if we think that the degree of international 
hostility is all the result of President Chirac.

The reality is that Britain is being asked to embark on a war 
without agreement in any of the international bodies of which we 
are a leading partner - not NATO, not the European Union and, now, 
not the Security Council.

To end up in such diplomatic weakness is a serious reverse.

Only a year ago, we and the United States were part of a coalition 
against terrorism that was wider and more diverse than I would 
ever have imagined possible.

'Heavy price'

History will be astonished at the diplomatic miscalculations that 
led so quickly to the disintegration of that powerful coalition.

The US can afford to go it alone, but Britain is not a 
superpower.

Our interests are best protected not by unilateral action but by 
multilateral agreement and a world order governed by rules.

Yet tonight the international partnerships most important to us 
are weakened: the European Union is divided; the Security Council 
is in stalemate.

Those are heavy casualties of a war in which a shot has yet to be 
fired.

I have heard some parallels between military action in these 
circumstances and the military action that we took in Kosovo. 
There was no doubt about the multilateral support that we had for 
the action that we took in Kosovo.

It was supported by NATO; it was supported by the European Union; 
it was supported by every single one of the seven neighbours in 
the region. France and Germany were our active allies.

It is precisely because we have none of that support in this case 
that it was all the more important to get agreement in the 
Security Council as the last hope of demonstrating international 
agreement.

Public doubts

The legal basis for our action in Kosovo was the need to respond 
to an urgent and compelling humanitarian crisis.

Our difficulty in getting support this time is that neither the 
international community nor the British public is persuaded that 
there is an urgent and compelling reason for this military action 
in Iraq.

The threshold for war should always be high.

None of us can predict the death toll of civilians from the 
forthcoming bombardment of Iraq, but the US warning of a bombing 
campaign that will shock and awe makes it likely that casualties 
will be numbered at least 

Dixie Chicks opposed to war with Iraq [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2003-03-14 Thread David Quarter
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Associated Press Worldstream
March 13, 2003 Thursday

Singer's remarks rankles country fans

The Dixie Chicks are drawing harsh words from country music fans for 
remarks singer Natalie Maines made about President George W. Bush during 
a recent performance in London.

Maines told the audience earlier this week, Just so you know, we're 
ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas.

Angry phone calls flooded Nashville radio station WKDF-FM on Thursday, 
some calling for a boycott of the Texas trio's music.

The group released a statement Thursday saying they have been overseas 
for several weeks and the anti-American sentiment that has unfolded 
here is astounding. While we support our troops, there is nothing more 
frightening than the notion of going to war with Iraq and the prospect 
of all the innocent lives that will be lost.

In a separate statement Thursday, Maines said, I feel the president is 
ignoring the opinion of many in the U.S. and alienating the rest of the 
world. My comments were made in frustration, and one of the privileges 
of being an American is you are free to voice your own point of view.

The Dixie Chicks will kick off a U.S. tour in support of their 
multi-platinum album Home on May 1 in Greenville, South Carolina. The 
group's hits include Wide Open Spaces, Ready to Run and Landslide.

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Re: On the Djindjic assassination [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2003-03-12 Thread David Quarter
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  I can't say I'm shedding any tears over his death, but at this point 
I would have rather he be handed a lengthy prison sentence for his 
long list of crimes.

David



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 Well, that is ONE way of getting rid of them, isn't it?
 
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  Isn't this the first assassination of a standing
  European head of state since Olaf Palme was killed in
  1986?
  Another - appalling - example of the 'democracy' and
  'rule of law' brought by NATO bombs and subversion to
  Southeastern Europe.
  More to come surely.
  
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Greg Elich on Djindjic assassination [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2003-03-12 Thread David Quarter
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 Serbian PM shot dead
 
 Zoran Djindjic, the Serbian prime minister and one of the key leaders in 
 the revolt that toppled Slobodan Milosevic, was today assassinated in 
 Belgrade.

Hi Lou,

Wow, that is really news.  Somehow I missed that when I checked the news 
on the internet this morning.  In a way I am not surprised.  The guy 
would sell his own mother, and there were many people angry with him. 
But I've read many articles from the Yugoslav press that revealed his 
involvement with the criminal underworld, including the most prominent
and dangerous mafia in Serbia, called Sarcin.  My guess is that the 
assassination is connected with his involvement with the criminal world, 
rather than his selling out Yugoslavia.

Thanks for sending.
Best regards,
Greg

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U.S. 'court' convicts Canadian of trading with Cuba FROM CANADIAN SOIL! [WWW.STO

2003-03-09 Thread David Quarter
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CANADIAN James Sabzali has been found guilty of trading with Cuba and is
waiting to be sentenced a few days time. He is currently under house
arrest in Philadelphia; an electronic tag attached to his ankle monitors
his movements.

According to the Canadian press, Sabzali is accompanied by his wife and
their two children. She says that the tagging is the worst part of what
is happening.

Sabzali, aged 42, was the defendant in a three-week trial in that city,
charged with the heinous crime of selling water-purifying chemicals to
Cuban hospitals. For this, he had to face a three-week trial in
Philadelphia and was found guilty on April 5, 2002. Nonetheless, the
European Union and Canadian governments vote in favor of U.S. prepared
resolutions against Cuba at the Human Rights Commission in Geneva.

James Sabzali was born in Trinidad, later moving to Hamilton, Canada,
where he worked from 1991-96 as a sales representative and marketing
director for Purolite International Inc., an Ottawa-based subsidiary of
the U.S. company Bro Tech Corporation. His job took him to Havana on
more than 20 occasions; in 1996, he was transferred to Philadelphia as
head of the firm. It was in that city that he was prosecuted for alleged
crimes committed in Canada and found guilty on eight of the 20 charges
brought against him.

The 12 remaining charges refer to shipments from Bro Tech offices in
Canada, Mexico, Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom. Those countries do
not recognize the U.S. blockade of Cuba, which has been in place for
more than 40 years. In any event the products, at a value of $2 million
USD over five years, were never exported to Cuba from the United States,
but from Britain and Canada.

FIRST CANADIAN CITIZEN TRIED FOR VIOLATING THE BLOCKADE

According to the BBC, Sabzali is the first Canadian to be tried and
sentenced for violating U.S. legislation related to the U.S. war against
Cuba. Washington applies a strict economic, commercial and financial
blockade against Cuba, based on the U.S. Trading with the Enemy Act,
which dates back to 1917, amended on various occasions and discredited
in its use against the little but great Caribbean island.

The UN General Assembly has almost unanimously condemned those sanctions.

The Canadian government’s Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Department has objected to Sabzali’s trial, affirming that it is
unacceptable that he should be sentenced for something that is not a
crime in his country.

In an article titled It isn’t our embargo, written when Sabzali was
found guilty, The Toronto Star daily, which has been urging the
government to protest at the extraterritorial application of U.S. law
since the three-week trial began, stated that it was a relic from the
cold war¼ an inexplicable violation of Canadian sovereignty, with the
added irony that it came on the same day that a U.S. enterprise
announced sales to Cuba worth $100 million USD.

Full article at:

http://www.granma.cu/ingles/agosto02/mie14/33vent-i.html



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[MLL] Police Arrest Attorney For Comments he Made In An Internet Chat-Room [WWW.

2003-03-08 Thread David Quarter
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Santa Fe Police Arrest Attorney For Comments he Made In An Internet Chat-Room

A St. John’s College Library visit by a former public defender was abruptly
interrupted February 13 when city police officers arrested him about 9 p.m.
at the computer terminal he was using, handcuffed him, and brought him to the
Santa Fe, New Mexico, police station for questioning by Secret Service agents
from Albuquerque. Andrew J. O’Conner, 40, who was released about five hours
later, said in the February 16 Santa Fe New Mexican, “I’m going to sue the
Secret Service, Santa Fe Police, St. John’s, and everybody involved in this
whole thing.”
According to O’Connor, the agents accused him of making threatening remarks
about President George W. Bush in an Internet chat room. Admitting he talked
politics face-to-face in the library with a woman who was wearing a “No war
with Iraq” button, O’Connor recalled saying that Bush is “out of control,”
but that “I’m allowed to say all that. There is this thing called freedom of
speech.” He also speculated that the FBI might have been observing him
because of his one-time involvement in a pro-Palestinian group in Boulder,
Colorado.

Earlier on the same day O’Connor was questioned, officials at St. John’s—as
well as at the College of Santa Fe and Santa Fe Community College—issued
warnings to students and faculty that the FBI had been alerted to the
presence of “suspicious” people on campus within the past four weeks.

Concern about threats to individual privacy under the USA Patriot Act has
prompted New Mexico legislators in both houses to propose resolutions urging
state police not to help federal agents infringe on civil rights. The
resolutions also encourage libraries to post prominent signage warning
patrons that their library records are subject to federal scrutiny without
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Re: Arch-capitalist Soros slams Bush's 'imperialist vision' [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.

2003-03-02 Thread David Quarter
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  Nancy,
 

Yep. He funded/funds many of the quisling organizations in Serbia 
that were responsible for overthrowing the government, not to 
mention,  groups with links to the KLA. His organizations front as 
human rights groups.  But, he's done this in many other 
countries, and in particular throughout countries in eastern europe. 
He has even been accused of  buying governments, most notably, 
the one in the Ukraine. It's probably accurate to say, he runs 
Eastern europe. His organizations are basically neo-liberal think 
tanks that advise governments as how best to detroy their 
economies -- he calls them open societies. He also  destroys 
economies more directly through his speculation schemes (He did 
this, for example, with the economy of Malaysia, which lead to an 
economic downturn in the entire region. He does not deny this act, 
either. )  He even buys governments, most notably, the current one 
in the Ukraine, and supports settlement expansion in  the west 
bank. Ironally, he writes books in which he criticizes capitalism. It's 
obviously a PR scheme. 

This guys is beyond scum.






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 That's true.  Wasn't he a major archetect of the breakup of Yugoslavia?
 
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  Empty rhethoric coming from the mouth of a bonafide imperialist...
 
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   AFP. 28 February 2003. Soros decries Bush administration's imperialist
   vision.
  
   WASHINGTON -- US financier George Soros blasted President George W. Bush
   and top aides for their imperialist vision and aversion to
   international cooperation, according to a media report Friday.
  
   The administration has a visceral aversion to international
   cooperation, Soros said in a speech Thursday at Carnegie Mellon
   University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
  
   President Bush is pushing the wrong buttons when he says, 'Those who
   are not with us, are against us.' This is an imperialist vision in which
   the US leads and the rest of the world follows, Soros was quoted as
   saying in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette paper.
  
   Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Attorney General John Ashcroft and
   other top officials of the administration have an exaggerated view of
   their own righteousness, Soros charged.
  
   The administration should live by the same rules it seeks to impose on
   the rest of the world, he said.
  
   Soros, 72, a Hungarian-born financier and philanthropist, was named by
   Forbes magazine as the world's 38th richest person, with an estimated
   net worth of seven billion dollars.
  
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Re: Arch-capitalist Soros slams Bush's 'imperialist vision' [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK

2003-02-28 Thread David Quarter
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Empty rhethoric coming from the mouth of a bonafide imperialist...



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 AFP. 28 February 2003. Soros decries Bush administration's imperialist
 vision.
 
 WASHINGTON -- US financier George Soros blasted President George W. Bush
 and top aides for their imperialist vision and aversion to
 international cooperation, according to a media report Friday.
 
 The administration has a visceral aversion to international
 cooperation, Soros said in a speech Thursday at Carnegie Mellon
 University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
 
 President Bush is pushing the wrong buttons when he says, 'Those who
 are not with us, are against us.' This is an imperialist vision in which
 the US leads and the rest of the world follows, Soros was quoted as
 saying in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette paper.
 
 Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Attorney General John Ashcroft and
 other top officials of the administration have an exaggerated view of
 their own righteousness, Soros charged.
 
 The administration should live by the same rules it seeks to impose on
 the rest of the world, he said.
 
 Soros, 72, a Hungarian-born financier and philanthropist, was named by
 Forbes magazine as the world's 38th richest person, with an estimated
 net worth of seven billion dollars.
 
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