Re: Senators Denounce Policy Analysis Markets

2003-08-02 Thread fabio guillermo rojas

 I help run a large non-profit colocation and hosting center for various
 groups of which an implementation of this would fit perfectly with our
 mission.
 
 If people are interested in trying this in a fully transparent method I am
 willing to provide our resources and my time to make it happen.
 
 Thanks,
 davidu

Seriously - how hard is it to set up such a market? If indeed it can lead
to better prediction of violent events, and if it is something that is
relatively easy to set up, then why not? Could this be shut down by the
Feds? Under what justifications?

Fabio Rojas 




Re: Senators Denounce Policy Analysis Markets

2003-08-02 Thread David A. Ulevitch

quote who=fabio guillermo rojas
 Seriously - how hard is it to set up such a market? If indeed it can lead
 to better prediction of violent events, and if it is something that is
 relatively easy to set up, then why not? Could this be shut down by the
 Feds? Under what justifications?

Games, in and of themselves, are not illegal.  Even the program setup by
the pentagon violated no laws I am aware of...(as if it's possible to know
them all...).

Again, if others are interested in getting this setup, I'm for it -- then
again, it looks like some of the other futures site's on the web have
already created DHS,Terrorism and other related sections to their sites so
it may be a moot point at this juncture.

And if the (US) gov. decided it had a problem with running it, we have
limited colocation resources outside of the US for this very reason. As an
aside, most of my servers (except email and a few others) drop traffic
originiating from DoD or other government registered IP space.

Thanks,
davidu


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Re: Senators Denounce Policy Analysis Markets

2003-08-02 Thread john-morrow
I think you could get into a whole lot of trouble since for any event you
predict that happens, if the common opinion is that you have somehow encouraged
it, the burden of proof on the civil level will effectively be on you to show
that you haven't, which of course will likely be impossible.  Also, from
questions I asked some of the IEM people a while back, the story goes that most
futures markets require heavy regulation, and that they managed to get a no
action letter from some agency that guaranteed they would not be hassled with
it, since otherwise they could be.  The other alternative is to put up your own
money prizes for futures, so that you are giving it away creatively, but that
doesn't really help with the above problem.  I'm sure there must be some people
on here that had a hand in the Arizona exchange, and I would be thrilled to hear
the story of how they managed that.

Quoting fabio guillermo rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
  I help run a large non-profit colocation and hosting center for various
  groups of which an implementation of this would fit perfectly with our
  mission.
  
  If people are interested in trying this in a fully transparent method I am
  willing to provide our resources and my time to make it happen.
  
  Thanks,
  davidu
 
 Seriously - how hard is it to set up such a market? If indeed it can lead
 to better prediction of violent events, and if it is something that is
 relatively easy to set up, then why not? Could this be shut down by the
 Feds? Under what justifications?
 
 Fabio Rojas