Re: spamonomics

2004-01-21 Thread john hull
I would. It happens all the time.

So what are the methodologies of the auto-erotic
reporting studies and how are they flawed?

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Re: spamonomics

2004-01-21 Thread Dimitriy V. Masterov
I guess the basic objection is that people will not talk about their
sexual behavior honestly. The usual assumption is that men will
exaggerate and women will understate their experiences. You can read
Edward Laumann's book about how the surveys are conducted. They spent a
lot of time designing the questionnaires and training the interviewers.
It's too much to summarize and explain here. I am not sure that I am
convinced entirely, but I think they reduced the bias significantly. The
citation is:

The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United
States. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1994. (With John H. Gagnon,
Robert T. Michael and Stuart Michaels.)

His recent work on China is really interesting for economists in that as
part of the survey they were able to get urine samples from most of the
participants. They found exceptionally low rates of STDs everywhere in
the population, except for businessmen, who had very high rates. It seem
that these men frequent brothels during their travels and engage in
unprotected sex. Laumann argues that this is very dangerous because the
economic elite of China has a sexual Achilles's heel, and that it is only
a matter of time before HIV becomes prevalent in this group.

DVM


On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, john hull wrote:

 I would. It happens all the time.

 So what are the methodologies of the auto-erotic
 reporting studies and how are they flawed?

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Re: [armchair] Re: spamonomics

2004-01-21 Thread Ron Baty
Aside from the legitimate economic reasons for v!gra spam I would offer that
the mark-up on sugar pills marketed as v!agra is quite high.  Quality
control is a significant problem when buying any drug over the internet,
that is what are you actually receiving?  The brain is our largest sex
organ, this enhances the placebo effect of taking a drug you think is
V!agra.  If you are taking it for a non-medical reason, sexual enhancement,
you potentially may never notice that its not actually V!agra.
Additionally, people who buy v!agra for non-medical uses are not likely to
complain of any problems with their purchase.

Ron B.
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I would. It happens all the time.

So what are the methodologies of the auto-erotic
reporting studies and how are they flawed?

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Re: spamonomics

2004-01-21 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- Christopher Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Followed closely by offers from extremely respectable officials in
 Nigeria who will give me hundreds of thousands of dollars merely for
 sending them my chequing account information.
 One can see how the first three products are highly complementary,
 but I don't see how the third relates.

The complementarity is the belief in magic, that one can create something
out of nothing, getting rich without work effort or getting something for
your body beyond the natural possibilities frontier.

This ultimately comes from parents teaching children that there is magic,
e.g. Santa Claus and the tooth fairy.  If parents would keep it real with
children, children would be less likely to belive in getting something for
nothing or something beyond the possibility frontier.

Fred Foldvary


Re: spamonomics

2004-01-21 Thread AdmrlLocke
I've seen almost exactly the same distribution.  As a first impression, I
wonder if the Nigeria scam doesn't employ the same anonymity (from the other
side) that recipients of the first three types of emails value.  Tracking down a
scam online might well prove more difficult than doing so over the phone,
especially in these days of caller ID.  The ease of mass mailings might also make
email a more effective means of perpetrating a scam.

I wonder too if people don't tend to believe what they read over the Internet
a bit more than they do other forms of communication.  When radio and films
were relatively new, people tended to believe what they heard and saw.  There
seems to have been something of a learning curve for large populations which
took them from blind faith in the 1930s to intense skepticism in the 1990s.
Perhaps the same sort of thing will happen with the Internet.  I know that people
often pass along without any sort of verification myriad emails claiming such
things as Bill Gates will pay you if you test some software or website, Bill
gates will bill you if you use some software or website, Mel Gibson grew up
disfigured and in poverty, people will steal your kidneys and leave you in a
bathtub full of ice, etc.  Perhaps oarge groups of internet users will climb up
the learning curve and we'll see a reduction in Nigerian scams.

David


Re: spamonomics

2004-01-21 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 1/21/04 3:34:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I was so ignorant, until last month I thought Paris Hilton was a
hotel in France

;-)

Paris Hilton is both a hotel in France AND desert topping! (from an old
Saturday Night Live skit it's both a floor wax AND a desert topping!)

Seriously though, I had no idea who she was when I first started getting
emails offering to let me see her private activities.  Not until I caught an
episode of that reality how called (I think) The Simple Life featuring Paris
and her buddy, Nichole Richie (Lionel Richie's daughter) did I know who she was.
 At least when they used to send emails offering Pamela Anderson's sex video
I knew who she was.

David


Re: spamonomics

2004-01-21 Thread Robert A. Book
 In a message dated 1/21/04 3:34:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was so ignorant, until last month I thought Paris Hilton was a
 hotel in France
 
 ;-)

 Paris Hilton is both a hotel in France AND desert topping! (from an old
 Saturday Night Live skit it's both a floor wax AND a desert topping!)

Is a desert topping what they put on the Mojave and the Sahara?


 Seriously though, I had no idea who she was when I first started getting
 emails offering to let me see her private activities.  Not until I caught an
 episode of that reality how called (I think) The Simple Life featuring Paris
 and her buddy, Nichole Richie (Lionel Richie's daughter) did I know who she was.

And people wonder why I don't watch TV   ;-)


--Robert