Naked ARS (was: The ~! for filter names)

2015-03-06 Thread Rick Westbrock
I really liked seeing your request Ray, I am totally behind it. Call me 
old-fashioned but Remedy will always be a great IDE for building a strong 
workflow engine. BMC just happens to sell a packaged application that runs on 
the platform.

Hell, I didn't even know that you couldn't just buy ARS anymore. I assumed that 
would always be an option because why cut off a potential customer by making 
them pay for apps they don't want?

-Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ray Gellenbeck
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 5:28 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: The ~! for filter names

It's all good folks, I admit I was having a lazy moment as it had been so long 
since I used it that I could not remember the exact syntax, could not find it 
in the wiki-style online docs (try searching for it, won't work) and asked here 
to be sure and get nudged to the proper syntax, which worked as a post came in 
about the time I downloaded my 7.6.x master index and looked it up there.

No call for a change.  Just a forgetful old man asking his peers for 
reinforcement.  Have a great weekend.

p.s.  I already stirred my quota of pots by adding a request on the community 
board for naked ARS (no ITSM or other libraries) to be re-added as a SKU for 
those of us who want a pure development platform. ;)  If you agree, vote it up!

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers 
Are, and have been for 20 years

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: The ~! for filter names

2015-03-06 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

Here is the link for Naked Remedy: https://communities.bmc.com/ideas/9432

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13):
* RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
* RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 It's all good folks, I admit I was having a lazy moment as it had been so long
 since I used it that I could not remember the exact syntax, could not find it
 in the wiki-style online docs (try searching for it, won't work) and asked
 here to be sure and get nudged to the proper syntax, which worked as a post
 came in about the time I downloaded my 7.6.x master index and looked it up
 there.

 No call for a change.  Just a forgetful old man asking his peers for
 reinforcement.  Have a great weekend.

 p.s.  I already stirred my quota of pots by adding a request on the community
 board for naked ARS (no ITSM or other libraries) to be re-added as a SKU for
 those of us who want a pure development platform. ;)  If you agree, vote it
 up!

 ___
 UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
 Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Requirements Doc

2015-03-06 Thread LJ LongWing
All,
I'm training up a newbie on Remedy Development, and we have reached the
point where I think he's ready for a 'test'I remember going through my
7.x RAC class, and they gave us a small 'requirements doc' for a fairly
simple, yet complex enough application that needed to be built...the guys
that were in the class with me all built different applications of course,
but they all met the application...it was a good exercise and helped hone
the blade so to speak on all of our skills...I was wondering if anyone
happened to have something like that laying around that I would be able to
use

It doesn't need to be related to any particular industry, etc...just a
couple of pages of requirements for an app that requires a few forms, and
some description of functionality, but of course, not how the functionality
needs to be built

If anyone is willing to send me some stuff, either on or offline, I would
appreciate it.

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: The ~! for filter names

2015-03-06 Thread Ray Gellenbeck
It's all good folks, I admit I was having a lazy moment as it had been so long 
since I used it that I could not remember the exact syntax, could not find it 
in the wiki-style online docs (try searching for it, won't work) and asked here 
to be sure and get nudged to the proper syntax, which worked as a post came in 
about the time I downloaded my 7.6.x master index and looked it up there.

No call for a change.  Just a forgetful old man asking his peers for 
reinforcement.  Have a great weekend.

p.s.  I already stirred my quota of pots by adding a request on the community 
board for naked ARS (no ITSM or other libraries) to be re-added as a SKU for 
those of us who want a pure development platform. ;)  If you agree, vote it up!

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Incident Sample

2015-03-06 Thread Pierson, Shawn
I appreciate your response, I’ll do so.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Abhijit Hendre
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 4:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident Sample

**

Hi Shawn,

This is a product defect. Kindly contact BMC Support to get hotfix.

Thanks,
Abhijit H
On 03-Mar-2015 7:50 pm, Pierson, Shawn 
shawn.pier...@energytransfer.commailto:shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com 
wrote:
**
Good morning,

Users have reported a very strange issue to me.  Basically, we are seeing 
Incidents created, apparently from SRM, with only a Summary populated that says 
“Incident Sample”.  I turned on the option to create Service Requests when an 
Incident is manually created several years ago, but this seems to have started 
around the time we upgraded to 8.1.  Of the thousands upon thousands of 
Incidents we’ve created since the 8.1 upgrade early last year, 54 Incidents 
have been created with this issue.

From what I have gathered, they have no relation to any previously resolved or 
closed Incidents, they aren’t called from any SRD that is available (keep in 
mind the one used by Incident Management is in Draft status and untouched), 
they aren’t related to any emails being sent into Remedy, and there’s no time 
overlap with the dates of other Incidents for these same users.  I’m really at 
a loss in determining what could be causing this.

Have any of you seen this, and if so, how did you fix it?

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

Private and confidential as detailed 
herehttp://www.energytransfer.com/mail_disclaimer.aspx. If you cannot access 
hyperlink, please e-mail sender.
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

Private and confidential as detailed here: 
http://www.energytransfer.com/mail_disclaimer.aspx .  If you cannot access the 
link, please e-mail sender.

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: MyIT/SmartIT First Impressions

2015-03-06 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Thanks, I had forgotten that I had read about the second one being a problem 
before writing up my impressions.  I read it in the documentation but hadn't 
actually set anyone outside of the Remedy team up to use SmartIT yet, but I 
agree completely.  There's no reason to require elevating people's permissions 
for SmartIT.  We already have a problem with people creating duplicate People 
records in a Proposed state because they don't feel like doing a search for 
some reason.  Rolling that out to everyone would probably just make the People 
data worse.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 5:02 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: MyIT/SmartIT First Impressions

Below are a few items that I'm not pleased with on Smart IT:

Assignment Menu only displays support group names and only those that are 
within your company.  I've created an idea on BMC Communities to enhance this:

https://communities.bmc.com/ideas/9444


Permission Dependency - Right now you have to have certain permissions in order 
to even log into Smart IT. One of those permissions is Contact People User 
which we do not give out to many people.  I would rather see it allow all users 
to log in, but only show the functionality that there permissions allows them 
to see.  This is how the current ITSM works.  I've also submitted the following 
idea for this:

https://communities.bmc.com/ideas/9445

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers 
Are, and have been for 20 years

Private and confidential as detailed here: 
http://www.energytransfer.com/mail_disclaimer.aspx .  If you cannot access the 
link, please e-mail sender.

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Incident Sample

2015-03-06 Thread Abhijit Hendre
Hi Shawn,

This is a product defect. Kindly contact BMC Support to get hotfix.

Thanks,
Abhijit H
On 03-Mar-2015 7:50 pm, Pierson, Shawn shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com
wrote:

 **

 Good morning,



 Users have reported a very strange issue to me.  Basically, we are seeing
 Incidents created, apparently from SRM, with only a Summary populated that
 says “Incident Sample”.  I turned on the option to create Service Requests
 when an Incident is manually created several years ago, but this seems to
 have started around the time we upgraded to 8.1.  Of the thousands upon
 thousands of Incidents we’ve created since the 8.1 upgrade early last year,
 54 Incidents have been created with this issue.



 From what I have gathered, they have no relation to any previously
 resolved or closed Incidents, they aren’t called from any SRD that is
 available (keep in mind the one used by Incident Management is in Draft
 status and untouched), they aren’t related to any emails being sent into
 Remedy, and there’s no time overlap with the dates of other Incidents for
 these same users.  I’m really at a loss in determining what could be
 causing this.



 Have any of you seen this, and if so, how did you fix it?



 Thanks,



 *Shawn Pierson *

 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


  Private and confidential as detailed here
 http://www.energytransfer.com/mail_disclaimer.aspx. If you cannot
 access hyperlink, please e-mail sender.
 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Function: Convert String to Integer

2015-03-06 Thread Ray Gellenbeck
Another I can't believe I've forgotten this and can't find it in the docs 
post...

Wasn't there a function that took a string and, presuming they were numbers, 
let you drop the integer equivalent into an int field?

something like IntField=INTEGER($CharField$)

I see currency conversion fields, but no text-to-number or number-to-text 
fields, and I know at least one direction will give you a mismatch error if you 
try just shoving one into another.

Thanks in advance (and a beer at Insight 2015) to the first reply with the 
answer ;)

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Requirements Doc

2015-03-06 Thread Rick Cook
I always used to assign new developers to build a bug tracking
application.

Rick
On Mar 6, 2015 9:36 AM, Ben Cantatore ben.cantat...@bedbath.com wrote:

 ** LJ,

 I'm not sure if this is something you're looking for, but I currently have
 an enhancement request from one of my users to modify the email function
 (located under function on left side navigation panel) in tickets to allow
 for canned messages.  Many teams that are fulfilling requests have messages
 to send formatted in a specific way with a specific message and want to
 send during the setup/completion of the requests.

 So the idea would be to create a form where the various teams can
 add/modify their canned messages and then have it selectable from a menu on
 the email dialog box.

 In this example, your junior develop would have to create a form, menu,
 active links and buttons.  I think I recall you have a custom environment
 so add dialog box and maybe tack on the actual email function if you want
 to ramp up the difficulty level.





 *Ben Cantatore*
 *Remedy Product Manager*
 Bed Bath  Beyond
 650 Liberty Avenue
 Union NJ 07083-8130
 Office: (908) 613-5769
 Cell: (914) 263-6802

 [image: LinkedIn] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ben-cantatore/3/220/9a7/



 From:LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com
 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG,
 Date:03/06/2015 09:58 AM
 Subject:Requirements Doc
 Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 --



 **
 All,
 I'm training up a newbie on Remedy Development, and we have reached the
 point where I think he's ready for a 'test'I remember going through my
 7.x RAC class, and they gave us a small 'requirements doc' for a fairly
 simple, yet complex enough application that needed to be built...the guys
 that were in the class with me all built different applications of course,
 but they all met the application...it was a good exercise and helped hone
 the blade so to speak on all of our skills...I was wondering if anyone
 happened to have something like that laying around that I would be able to
 use

 It doesn't need to be related to any particular industry, etc...just a
 couple of pages of requirements for an app that requires a few forms, and
 some description of functionality, but of course, not how the functionality
 needs to be built

 If anyone is willing to send me some stuff, either on or offline, I would
 appreciate it.
 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

 -- CONFIDENTIALITY
 NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use
 by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential information.
 If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby
 notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail,
 and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
 this e-mail in error, please permanently delete the original and any copy
 of any e-mail and any printout thereof. Thank you for your compliance.
   ­­   _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Naked ARS (was: The ~! for filter names)

2015-03-06 Thread Ray Gellenbeck
Thanks.  The whole point was that some people don't even KNOW that the engine 
is, well, an engine unto itself.  There seems to be a trend (marketing?) to 
present the image that Remedy is ONLY CMDB/ITSM.

It's always challenging to explain to customers that those are just apps 
running on a (very nice) workflow engine underneath.  I'm all for canned apps 
where they make sense.  Ease of upgrade path, support, etc etc.  However, small 
steps seem to keep happening in the product evolution over the last few 
versions to slowly close off the custom-build path and I'd just like to ask 
for the server/engine to be made available *without* the suite.  As great (or 
not great) as anyone might feel the suite is, there are plenty out there who 
want something simpler, or more modular, or (insert complaint here).  It's part 
of why other products (especially those that start with S and end with W) get a 
lot of migration.  There needs to be more flexibility.

It also lets you push back on customizers from a support perspective.  It won't 
be quite as ridiculous to have support tell you that's been customized, we 
don't support it because if you want custom, you should buy the naked product 
and build your own.

I'm not pretending it's is any big magical answer.  The request was really just 
to speak to a mindset to say quit forcing one solution as if it is the right 
answer for everyone.  Bring back some choice.  Now if you've pitched Galileo 
(ITSM/CMDB v9) to customers and they don't like it, make this Plan B, a 
workflow engine platform where you can roll your own.  Plenty won't like that 
either, but some do already and others will going forward, and it would be nice 
not to have to install all the ITSM spagetti if it's not going to be used.

Make a modular installer where base is ONLY the engine and User/Group tables.  
Add some option checkboxes for Email Engine, Mid-Tier, Preferences, and other 
foundation elements some will still want in a custom build, BUT OTHERS WON'T.

15 up-votes so far in just a couple days.  I think I hit a nerve ;)
(/endsoapbox)

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Requirements Doc

2015-03-06 Thread LJ LongWing
Howard,
That would be awesome if you had that sort of thing laying
aroundexactly what I'm looking for :)

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta) 
howard.rich...@coxinc.com wrote:

 **

 One of the tests I took, was to build a record data base. Yes I said
 record.



 I remember it had to have the speed (33.3/78/45), all the info on the
 album, the ability to import from the record DB that was on line). Also be
 usable with the old palm pilot interface.



 hbr



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Rick Cook
 *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2015 12:43 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: [arslist] Requirements Doc



 **

 I always used to assign new developers to build a bug tracking
 application.

 Rick

 On Mar 6, 2015 9:36 AM, Ben Cantatore ben.cantat...@bedbath.com wrote:

 ** LJ,

 I'm not sure if this is something you're looking for, but I currently have
 an enhancement request from one of my users to modify the email function
 (located under function on left side navigation panel) in tickets to allow
 for canned messages.  Many teams that are fulfilling requests have messages
 to send formatted in a specific way with a specific message and want to
 send during the setup/completion of the requests.

 So the idea would be to create a form where the various teams can
 add/modify their canned messages and then have it selectable from a menu on
 the email dialog box.

 In this example, your junior develop would have to create a form, menu,
 active links and buttons.  I think I recall you have a custom environment
 so add dialog box and maybe tack on the actual email function if you want
 to ramp up the difficulty level.





 *Ben Cantatore*
 *Remedy Product Manager*
 Bed Bath  Beyond
 650 Liberty Avenue
 Union NJ 07083-8130
 Office: (908) 613-5769
 Cell: (914) 263-6802

 [image: LinkedIn] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ben-cantatore/3/220/9a7/



 From:LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com
 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG,
 Date:03/06/2015 09:58 AM
 Subject:Requirements Doc
 Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  --




 **
 All,
 I'm training up a newbie on Remedy Development, and we have reached the
 point where I think he's ready for a 'test'I remember going through my
 7.x RAC class, and they gave us a small 'requirements doc' for a fairly
 simple, yet complex enough application that needed to be built...the guys
 that were in the class with me all built different applications of course,
 but they all met the application...it was a good exercise and helped hone
 the blade so to speak on all of our skills...I was wondering if anyone
 happened to have something like that laying around that I would be able to
 use

 It doesn't need to be related to any particular industry, etc...just a
 couple of pages of requirements for an app that requires a few forms, and
 some description of functionality, but of course, not how the functionality
 needs to be built

 If anyone is willing to send me some stuff, either on or offline, I would
 appreciate it.
 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

 -- CONFIDENTIALITY
 NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use
 by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential information.
 If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby
 notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail,
 and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
 this e-mail in error, please permanently delete the original and any copy
 of any e-mail and any printout thereof. Thank you for your compliance.

   ­­   _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

 Click here
 https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/OJSgMqzJEV!GX2PQPOmvUk8LIR8eqmo3tDxfwyx1aMWy8LcjapzIDuA2sGsCtyo!GwFkGTx!tij3vm7b4Ic+!w==
 to report this email as spam.
  _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Requirements Doc

2015-03-06 Thread LJ LongWing
Yea...but even that would require some sort of 'figuring out' what the
requirements are...I'm looking for a simple defined requirement that he can
translate into a functional application that meets those requirements :)

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 I always used to assign new developers to build a bug tracking
 application.

 Rick
 On Mar 6, 2015 9:36 AM, Ben Cantatore ben.cantat...@bedbath.com wrote:

 ** LJ,

 I'm not sure if this is something you're looking for, but I currently
 have an enhancement request from one of my users to modify the email
 function (located under function on left side navigation panel) in tickets
 to allow for canned messages.  Many teams that are fulfilling requests have
 messages to send formatted in a specific way with a specific message and
 want to send during the setup/completion of the requests.

 So the idea would be to create a form where the various teams can
 add/modify their canned messages and then have it selectable from a menu on
 the email dialog box.

 In this example, your junior develop would have to create a form, menu,
 active links and buttons.  I think I recall you have a custom environment
 so add dialog box and maybe tack on the actual email function if you want
 to ramp up the difficulty level.





 *Ben Cantatore*
 *Remedy Product Manager*
 Bed Bath  Beyond
 650 Liberty Avenue
 Union NJ 07083-8130
 Office: (908) 613-5769
 Cell: (914) 263-6802

 [image: LinkedIn] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ben-cantatore/3/220/9a7/



 From:LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com
 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG,
 Date:03/06/2015 09:58 AM
 Subject:Requirements Doc
 Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 --



 **
 All,
 I'm training up a newbie on Remedy Development, and we have reached the
 point where I think he's ready for a 'test'I remember going through my
 7.x RAC class, and they gave us a small 'requirements doc' for a fairly
 simple, yet complex enough application that needed to be built...the guys
 that were in the class with me all built different applications of course,
 but they all met the application...it was a good exercise and helped hone
 the blade so to speak on all of our skills...I was wondering if anyone
 happened to have something like that laying around that I would be able to
 use

 It doesn't need to be related to any particular industry, etc...just a
 couple of pages of requirements for an app that requires a few forms, and
 some description of functionality, but of course, not how the functionality
 needs to be built

 If anyone is willing to send me some stuff, either on or offline, I would
 appreciate it.
 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

 -- CONFIDENTIALITY
 NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use
 by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential information.
 If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby
 notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail,
 and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
 this e-mail in error, please permanently delete the original and any copy
 of any e-mail and any printout thereof. Thank you for your compliance.
   ­­   _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Function: Convert String to Integer

2015-03-06 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

No it did not.

The problem was in searches etc where you could get a type mismatch.
Set-Fields assignments this has always worked.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13):
* RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
* RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 Ok, but in the old days, didn't that toss up a mismatch error?  Did they add
 some intelligence/library behind the scenes?

 ___
 UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
 Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Naked ARS (was: The ~! for filter names)

2015-03-06 Thread Andrew Hicox
AMEN!

I can't belive how short sighted bmc has become in regard to pushing
itsm/cmdb and the rest of the licensed oob apps. Especially at the expense
of pushing out custom development (essentially not supporting it).

The true irony, in my opinion, is that in the decade+ that we've been
struggling with converting the aruser GUI paradigm to a Web interface, the
world has come full circle.

Today, it's all mobile apps, and Web interfaces are on the way out. Static
dimension, single window grid layouts are back in a huge way.

I know what I could do with a naked arserver, and an aruser client that
works on ios and android. With a few tweaks to the GUI elements to make
them mobile friendly and client side plug-ins to give access to the camera,
accelerometer, messaging framework and the rest ...

holy moses, I know exactly what I could do with that! Change the world.
That's what.
On Mar 6, 2015 11:42 AM, Ray Gellenbeck ray.gellenb...@redmangollc.com
wrote:

 Thanks.  The whole point was that some people don't even KNOW that the
 engine is, well, an engine unto itself.  There seems to be a trend
 (marketing?) to present the image that Remedy is ONLY CMDB/ITSM.

 It's always challenging to explain to customers that those are just apps
 running on a (very nice) workflow engine underneath.  I'm all for canned
 apps where they make sense.  Ease of upgrade path, support, etc etc.
 However, small steps seem to keep happening in the product evolution over
 the last few versions to slowly close off the custom-build path and I'd
 just like to ask for the server/engine to be made available *without* the
 suite.  As great (or not great) as anyone might feel the suite is, there
 are plenty out there who want something simpler, or more modular, or
 (insert complaint here).  It's part of why other products (especially those
 that start with S and end with W) get a lot of migration.  There needs to
 be more flexibility.

 It also lets you push back on customizers from a support perspective.  It
 won't be quite as ridiculous to have support tell you that's been
 customized, we don't support it because if you want custom, you should buy
 the naked product and build your own.

 I'm not pretending it's is any big magical answer.  The request was really
 just to speak to a mindset to say quit forcing one solution as if it is
 the right answer for everyone.  Bring back some choice.  Now if you've
 pitched Galileo (ITSM/CMDB v9) to customers and they don't like it, make
 this Plan B, a workflow engine platform where you can roll your own.
 Plenty won't like that either, but some do already and others will going
 forward, and it would be nice not to have to install all the ITSM
 spagetti if it's not going to be used.

 Make a modular installer where base is ONLY the engine and User/Group
 tables.  Add some option checkboxes for Email Engine, Mid-Tier,
 Preferences, and other foundation elements some will still want in a
 custom build, BUT OTHERS WON'T.

 15 up-votes so far in just a couple days.  I think I hit a nerve ;)
 (/endsoapbox)


 ___
 UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
 Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Function: Convert String to Integer

2015-03-06 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Just assign it
   IntField = $CharField$

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ray Gellenbeck
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:32 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Function: Convert String to Integer

Another I can't believe I've forgotten this and can't find it in the docs 
post...

Wasn't there a function that took a string and, presuming they were numbers, 
let you drop the integer equivalent into an int field?

something like IntField=INTEGER($CharField$)

I see currency conversion fields, but no text-to-number or number-to-text 
fields, and I know at least one direction will give you a mismatch error if you 
try just shoving one into another.

Thanks in advance (and a beer at Insight 2015) to the first reply with the 
answer ;)




___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Requirements Doc

2015-03-06 Thread Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Let me dig through my archives this weekend. I took my tests back in 2000.

hbr

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [arslist] Requirements Doc

**
Howard,
That would be awesome if you had that sort of thing laying aroundexactly 
what I'm looking for :)

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta) 
howard.rich...@coxinc.commailto:howard.rich...@coxinc.com wrote:
**
One of the tests I took, was to build a record data base. Yes I said record.

I remember it had to have the speed (33.3/78/45), all the info on the album, 
the ability to import from the record DB that was on line). Also be usable with 
the old palm pilot interface.

hbr

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [arslist] Requirements Doc

**

I always used to assign new developers to build a bug tracking application.

Rick
On Mar 6, 2015 9:36 AM, Ben Cantatore 
ben.cantat...@bedbath.commailto:ben.cantat...@bedbath.com wrote:
** LJ,

I'm not sure if this is something you're looking for, but I currently have an 
enhancement request from one of my users to modify the email function (located 
under function on left side navigation panel) in tickets to allow for canned 
messages.  Many teams that are fulfilling requests have messages to send 
formatted in a specific way with a specific message and want to send during the 
setup/completion of the requests.

So the idea would be to create a form where the various teams can add/modify 
their canned messages and then have it selectable from a menu on the email 
dialog box.

In this example, your junior develop would have to create a form, menu, active 
links and buttons.  I think I recall you have a custom environment so add 
dialog box and maybe tack on the actual email function if you want to ramp up 
the difficulty level.




[cid:image001.png@01D0580C.C65670F0]
Ben Cantatore
Remedy Product Manager
Bed Bath  Beyond
650 Liberty Avenue
Union NJ 07083-8130
Office: (908) 613-5769tel:%28908%29%20613-5769
Cell: (914) 263-6802tel:%28914%29%20263-6802

[LinkedIn]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ben-cantatore/3/220/9a7/



From:LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.commailto:lj.longw...@gmail.com
To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG,
Date:03/06/2015 09:58 AM
Subject:Requirements Doc
Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG





**
All,
I'm training up a newbie on Remedy Development, and we have reached the point 
where I think he's ready for a 'test'I remember going through my 7.x RAC 
class, and they gave us a small 'requirements doc' for a fairly simple, yet 
complex enough application that needed to be built...the guys that were in the 
class with me all built different applications of course, but they all met the 
application...it was a good exercise and helped hone the blade so to speak on 
all of our skills...I was wondering if anyone happened to have something like 
that laying around that I would be able to use

It doesn't need to be related to any particular industry, etc...just a couple 
of pages of requirements for an app that requires a few forms, and some 
description of functionality, but of course, not how the functionality needs to 
be built

If anyone is willing to send me some stuff, either on or offline, I would 
appreciate it.
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

-- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: 
This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the 
addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential information. If you are 
not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any 
dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments 
thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, 
please permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any 
printout thereof. Thank you for your compliance.
  ­­   _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

Click 
herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/OJSgMqzJEV!GX2PQPOmvUk8LIR8eqmo3tDxfwyx1aMWy8LcjapzIDuA2sGsCtyo!GwFkGTx!tij3vm7b4Ic+!w==
 to report this email as spam.
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Requirements Doc

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Cantatore
LJ,

I'm not sure if this is something you're looking for, but I currently have 
an enhancement request from one of my users to modify the email function 
(located under function on left side navigation panel) in tickets to allow 
for canned messages.  Many teams that are fulfilling requests have 
messages to send formatted in a specific way with a specific message and 
want to send during the setup/completion of the requests.

So the idea would be to create a form where the various teams can 
add/modify their canned messages and then have it selectable from a menu 
on the email dialog box.

In this example, your junior develop would have to create a form, menu, 
active links and buttons.  I think I recall you have a custom environment 
so add dialog box and maybe tack on the actual email function if you want 
to ramp up the difficulty level.





Ben Cantatore
Remedy Product Manager
Bed Bath  Beyond
650 Liberty Avenue
Union NJ 07083-8130
Office: (908) 613-5769
Cell: (914) 263-6802




From:   LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG, 
Date:   03/06/2015 09:58 AM
Subject:Requirements Doc
Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG



** 
All,
I'm training up a newbie on Remedy Development, and we have reached the 
point where I think he's ready for a 'test'I remember going through my 
7.x RAC class, and they gave us a small 'requirements doc' for a fairly 
simple, yet complex enough application that needed to be built...the guys 
that were in the class with me all built different applications of course, 
but they all met the application...it was a good exercise and helped hone 
the blade so to speak on all of our skills...I was wondering if anyone 
happened to have something like that laying around that I would be able to 
use

It doesn't need to be related to any particular industry, etc...just a 
couple of pages of requirements for an app that requires a few forms, and 
some description of functionality, but of course, not how the 
functionality needs to be built

If anyone is willing to send me some stuff, either on or offline, I would 
appreciate it.
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ 



___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Function: Convert String to Integer

2015-03-06 Thread Ray Gellenbeck
Ok, but in the old days, didn't that toss up a mismatch error?  Did they add 
some intelligence/library behind the scenes?

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Requirements Doc

2015-03-06 Thread Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
One of the tests I took, was to build a record data base. Yes I said record.

I remember it had to have the speed (33.3/78/45), all the info on the album, 
the ability to import from the record DB that was on line). Also be usable with 
the old palm pilot interface.

hbr

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [arslist] Requirements Doc

**

I always used to assign new developers to build a bug tracking application.

Rick
On Mar 6, 2015 9:36 AM, Ben Cantatore 
ben.cantat...@bedbath.commailto:ben.cantat...@bedbath.com wrote:
** LJ,

I'm not sure if this is something you're looking for, but I currently have an 
enhancement request from one of my users to modify the email function (located 
under function on left side navigation panel) in tickets to allow for canned 
messages.  Many teams that are fulfilling requests have messages to send 
formatted in a specific way with a specific message and want to send during the 
setup/completion of the requests.

So the idea would be to create a form where the various teams can add/modify 
their canned messages and then have it selectable from a menu on the email 
dialog box.

In this example, your junior develop would have to create a form, menu, active 
links and buttons.  I think I recall you have a custom environment so add 
dialog box and maybe tack on the actual email function if you want to ramp up 
the difficulty level.




[cid:image001.png@01D0580B.9216B2B0]
Ben Cantatore
Remedy Product Manager
Bed Bath  Beyond
650 Liberty Avenue
Union NJ 07083-8130
Office: (908) 613-5769tel:%28908%29%20613-5769
Cell: (914) 263-6802tel:%28914%29%20263-6802

[LinkedIn]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ben-cantatore/3/220/9a7/



From:LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.commailto:lj.longw...@gmail.com
To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG,
Date:03/06/2015 09:58 AM
Subject:Requirements Doc
Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG





**
All,
I'm training up a newbie on Remedy Development, and we have reached the point 
where I think he's ready for a 'test'I remember going through my 7.x RAC 
class, and they gave us a small 'requirements doc' for a fairly simple, yet 
complex enough application that needed to be built...the guys that were in the 
class with me all built different applications of course, but they all met the 
application...it was a good exercise and helped hone the blade so to speak on 
all of our skills...I was wondering if anyone happened to have something like 
that laying around that I would be able to use

It doesn't need to be related to any particular industry, etc...just a couple 
of pages of requirements for an app that requires a few forms, and some 
description of functionality, but of course, not how the functionality needs to 
be built

If anyone is willing to send me some stuff, either on or offline, I would 
appreciate it.
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

-- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: 
This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the 
addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential information. If you are 
not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any 
dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments 
thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, 
please permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any 
printout thereof. Thank you for your compliance.
  ­­   _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

Click 
herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/OJSgMqzJEV!GX2PQPOmvUk8LIR8eqmo3tDxfwyx1aMWy8LcjapzIDuA2sGsCtyo!GwFkGTx!tij3vm7b4Ic+!w==
 to report this email as spam.

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Naked ARS (was: The ~! for filter names)

2015-03-06 Thread Lucero, Michelle
Hi, Ray:

Can you repost the link here for your idea?  If I haven't already, I will 
definitely vote it up.

Michelle

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ray Gellenbeck
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Naked ARS (was: The ~! for filter names)

Thanks.  The whole point was that some people don't even KNOW that the engine 
is, well, an engine unto itself.  There seems to be a trend (marketing?) to 
present the image that Remedy is ONLY CMDB/ITSM.

It's always challenging to explain to customers that those are just apps 
running on a (very nice) workflow engine underneath.  I'm all for canned apps 
where they make sense.  Ease of upgrade path, support, etc etc.  However, small 
steps seem to keep happening in the product evolution over the last few 
versions to slowly close off the custom-build path and I'd just like to ask 
for the server/engine to be made available *without* the suite.  As great (or 
not great) as anyone might feel the suite is, there are plenty out there who 
want something simpler, or more modular, or (insert complaint here).  It's part 
of why other products (especially those that start with S and end with W) get a 
lot of migration.  There needs to be more flexibility.

It also lets you push back on customizers from a support perspective.  It won't 
be quite as ridiculous to have support tell you that's been customized, we 
don't support it because if you want custom, you should buy the naked product 
and build your own.

I'm not pretending it's is any big magical answer.  The request was really just 
to speak to a mindset to say quit forcing one solution as if it is the right 
answer for everyone.  Bring back some choice.  Now if you've pitched Galileo 
(ITSM/CMDB v9) to customers and they don't like it, make this Plan B, a 
workflow engine platform where you can roll your own.  Plenty won't like that 
either, but some do already and others will going forward, and it would be nice 
not to have to install all the ITSM spagetti if it's not going to be used.

Make a modular installer where base is ONLY the engine and User/Group tables.  
Add some option checkboxes for Email Engine, Mid-Tier, Preferences, and other 
foundation elements some will still want in a custom build, BUT OTHERS WON'T.

15 up-votes so far in just a couple days.  I think I hit a nerve ;)
(/endsoapbox)

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers 
Are, and have been for 20 years

--
This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may 
contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and 
subject to important terms and conditions available at 
http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer.   If you are not the intended 
recipient, please delete this message.

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Requirements Doc

2015-03-06 Thread LJ LongWing
Yea, what I'm looking for is a doc that says 'I need an application built,
I want to store these 5 attributes, and this is what I want to store in
them, I want to be able to search on these 2 fields, where what I'm
searching on could be anywhere in the field, blah blah blah

I'm not looking for an enhancement requirements doc to an existing
applicationjust a simple two or three page requirements doc for a
'sample' application that I don't need to create myselfI certainly
could create such a document...but I'm just trying to see if anyone has one
laying around from a class they took, or something similar.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 I always used to assign new developers to build a bug tracking
 application.

 Rick
 On Mar 6, 2015 9:36 AM, Ben Cantatore ben.cantat...@bedbath.com wrote:

 ** LJ,

 I'm not sure if this is something you're looking for, but I currently
 have an enhancement request from one of my users to modify the email
 function (located under function on left side navigation panel) in tickets
 to allow for canned messages.  Many teams that are fulfilling requests have
 messages to send formatted in a specific way with a specific message and
 want to send during the setup/completion of the requests.

 So the idea would be to create a form where the various teams can
 add/modify their canned messages and then have it selectable from a menu on
 the email dialog box.

 In this example, your junior develop would have to create a form, menu,
 active links and buttons.  I think I recall you have a custom environment
 so add dialog box and maybe tack on the actual email function if you want
 to ramp up the difficulty level.





 *Ben Cantatore*
 *Remedy Product Manager*
 Bed Bath  Beyond
 650 Liberty Avenue
 Union NJ 07083-8130
 Office: (908) 613-5769
 Cell: (914) 263-6802

 [image: LinkedIn] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ben-cantatore/3/220/9a7/



 From:LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com
 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG,
 Date:03/06/2015 09:58 AM
 Subject:Requirements Doc
 Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 --



 **
 All,
 I'm training up a newbie on Remedy Development, and we have reached the
 point where I think he's ready for a 'test'I remember going through my
 7.x RAC class, and they gave us a small 'requirements doc' for a fairly
 simple, yet complex enough application that needed to be built...the guys
 that were in the class with me all built different applications of course,
 but they all met the application...it was a good exercise and helped hone
 the blade so to speak on all of our skills...I was wondering if anyone
 happened to have something like that laying around that I would be able to
 use

 It doesn't need to be related to any particular industry, etc...just a
 couple of pages of requirements for an app that requires a few forms, and
 some description of functionality, but of course, not how the functionality
 needs to be built

 If anyone is willing to send me some stuff, either on or offline, I would
 appreciate it.
 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

 -- CONFIDENTIALITY
 NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use
 by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential information.
 If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby
 notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail,
 and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
 this e-mail in error, please permanently delete the original and any copy
 of any e-mail and any printout thereof. Thank you for your compliance.
   ­­   _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_

 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: Naked ARS (was: The ~! for filter names)

2015-03-06 Thread Ray Gellenbeck
Per Misi's post earlier in an old/unrelated thread (copy/pasted)...

Here is the link for Naked Remedy: https://communities.bmc.com/ideas/9432
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


Re: 8.1 Wiping out Relationships when a CI is Moved to In Inventory

2015-03-06 Thread Rick Cook
If a CI is In Inventory, it's not deployed, and to BMC, it is still owned,
managed, and controlled by the company, not a group individual.  I believe
you can set a default owner group for CIs in that status.

Rick
On Mar 6, 2015 12:39 PM, Kemes, Lisa A DLA CTR INFORMATION OPERATIONS 
lisa.kemes@dla.mil wrote:

 I'm surprised that nobody else is feeling any struggles to the new 8.1 OOB
 workflow that deletes all People relationships when a CI is moved to In
 Inventory.  Surely (don't call me Shirley!) the CI is still supported by or
 owned by a Support Group or Organization and this usually doesn't go away
 if In Inventory does it?  Our customer is requesting that these
 relationships do not get touched when a CI is moved to In Inventory.

 Do most people just not use In Inventory?  It's really horrible and has
 caused lots of problems for us.  We have fixed many bugs for BMC on our own
 in relation to this.

 My previous Post:
 Does anyone else struggle with this in 8.1?  Why would all relationships
 get wiped out when a CI is moved to In Inventory?

 Lisa Kemes
 Remedy Consultant
 Dev Technology Group
 DLA Office: (717) 770-6437
 Cell Phone: (717) 602-9460
 lisa.ke...@devtechnology.com


 ___
 UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
 Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


8.1 Wiping out Relationships when a CI is Moved to In Inventory

2015-03-06 Thread Kemes, Lisa A DLA CTR INFORMATION OPERATIONS
I'm surprised that nobody else is feeling any struggles to the new 8.1 OOB 
workflow that deletes all People relationships when a CI is moved to In 
Inventory.  Surely (don't call me Shirley!) the CI is still supported by or 
owned by a Support Group or Organization and this usually doesn't go away if In 
Inventory does it?  Our customer is requesting that these relationships do not 
get touched when a CI is moved to In Inventory.

Do most people just not use In Inventory?  It's really horrible and has  caused 
lots of problems for us.  We have fixed many bugs for BMC on our own in 
relation to this.  

My previous Post:
Does anyone else struggle with this in 8.1?  Why would all relationships get 
wiped out when a CI is moved to In Inventory? 

Lisa Kemes
Remedy Consultant
Dev Technology Group
DLA Office: (717) 770-6437
Cell Phone: (717) 602-9460
lisa.ke...@devtechnology.com

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years


AST:BulkUpdate-Display

2015-03-06 Thread Kemes, Lisa A DLA CTR INFORMATION OPERATIONS
I updated the Asset Table on this form to include a field that is now on the 
Attributes form.  How in the world can I get this same field added to this 
table?  It seems like I can only choose from the fields off of the 
BMC.CORE:BMC_BaseElement table.

Has anyone figured this out?

Lisa Kemes
Remedy Consultant
Dev Technology Group
DLA Office: (717) 770-6437
Cell Phone: (717) 602-9460
lisa.ke...@devtechnology.com

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years