Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

2013-07-15 Thread Kiran Patil
Hi Mahmoud,

You can achieve remedy archiving using some of the external tools like
rrchive, Informatica, BMC DSO

1. First find out business timeframe and condition for data archieving.
2. Identify main forms and related forms to archieve.

Use any of the above tool or similar tool to migrate data.

Challenge here would be data integritiy which should be impacted.

Good Luck !!

Regards
Kiran






On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.comwrote:

 **
 Dears,

 Kindly help as we have (500 GB database file) which affecting our
 performance and causing system down.
 is there a way to truncate the history data from the system or DB..?.

 Thanks,
 Best Regards,

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Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

2013-07-15 Thread mahmoud mahdy
Dears,

I'd like to delete the history and keep only the last two years.

so, is it better to delete form remedy forms or DB..?

Thanks
 



Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:41:23 +0530
From: kiranpatil@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 

Hi Mahmoud,


You can achieve remedy archiving using some of the external tools like rrchive, 
Informatica, BMC DSO


1. First find out business timeframe and condition for data archieving.
2. Identify main forms and related forms to archieve.


Use any of the above tool or similar tool to migrate data.


Challenge here would be data integritiy which should be impacted.


Good Luck !!


Regards
Kiran











On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:

** 

Dears,
 
Kindly help as we have (500 GB database file) which affecting our performance 
and causing system down.
is there a way to truncate the history data from the system or DB..?.
 
Thanks,
Best Regards,
 
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ 


-- 

Regards 
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Cognizant Technology Solutions
Pune, India
Mob No: +91 989 037 7125

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Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

2013-07-15 Thread Kulkarni, Vikrant
Delete from remedy as far as possible.

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mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:



**
Dears,
I'd like to delete the history and keep only the last two years.
so, is it better to delete form remedy forms or DB..?
Thanks


Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:41:23 +0530
From: kiranpatil@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

**
Hi Mahmoud,

You can achieve remedy archiving using some of the external tools like rrchive, 
Informatica, BMC DSO

1. First find out business timeframe and condition for data archieving.
2. Identify main forms and related forms to archieve.

Use any of the above tool or similar tool to migrate data.

Challenge here would be data integritiy which should be impacted.

Good Luck !!

Regards
Kiran






On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mahmoud mahdy 
mahmoud_ma...@live.commailto:mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:
**
Dears,

Kindly help as we have (500 GB database file) which affecting our performance 
and causing system down.
is there a way to truncate the history data from the system or DB..?.

Thanks,
Best Regards,

_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_



--
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Cognizant Technology Solutions
Pune, India
Mob No: +91 989 037 7125

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Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

2013-07-15 Thread Hullule, Kiran
If you delete from Db then remedy may not be aware of what all data have been 
deleted and there are chances that deleting data from db,  form association 
won't be maintained causing some other inconsistency. You better delete it from 
remedy application.

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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 2:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

**
Dears,
I'd like to delete the history and keep only the last two years.
so, is it better to delete form remedy forms or DB..?
Thanks


Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:41:23 +0530
From: kiranpatil@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

**
Hi Mahmoud,

You can achieve remedy archiving using some of the external tools like rrchive, 
Informatica, BMC DSO

1. First find out business timeframe and condition for data archieving.
2. Identify main forms and related forms to archieve.

Use any of the above tool or similar tool to migrate data.

Challenge here would be data integritiy which should be impacted.

Good Luck !!

Regards
Kiran





On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mahmoud mahdy 
mahmoud_ma...@live.commailto:mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:
**
Dears,

Kindly help as we have (500 GB database file) which affecting our performance 
and causing system down.
is there a way to truncate the history data from the system or DB..?.

Thanks,
Best Regards,

_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_



--
Regards

Kiran Patil
Cognizant Technology Solutions
Pune, India
Mob No: +91 989 037 7125
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_
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Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

2013-07-15 Thread mahmoud mahdy
I contacted WIPRO whom support BMC Remedy, and they told me that deleting from 
DB level is better as it is a huge data and the system may not be able to 
complete.
 



Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:19:48 -0500
From: vkulka...@columnit.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** Delete from remedy as far as possible. 

Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:


** 


Dears,
I'd like to delete the history and keep only the last two years.
so, is it better to delete form remedy forms or DB..?
Thanks
 



Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:41:23 +0530
From: kiranpatil@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 

Hi Mahmoud,


You can achieve remedy archiving using some of the external tools like rrchive, 
Informatica, BMC DSO


1. First find out business timeframe and condition for data archieving.
2. Identify main forms and related forms to archieve.


Use any of the above tool or similar tool to migrate data.


Challenge here would be data integritiy which should be impacted.


Good Luck !!


Regards
Kiran











On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:

** 

Dears,
 
Kindly help as we have (500 GB database file) which affecting our performance 
and causing system down.
is there a way to truncate the history data from the system or DB..?.
 
Thanks,
Best Regards,
 
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ 


-- 

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Cognizant Technology Solutions
Pune, India
Mob No: +91 989 037 7125

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Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

2013-07-15 Thread Kulkarni, Vikrant
Well use tools like RRR to delete data via remedy. I have deleted similar sized 
data. In less than 3 weeks.

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mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:



**
I contacted WIPRO whom support BMC Remedy, and they told me that deleting from 
DB level is better as it is a huge data and the system may not be able to 
complete.


Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:19:48 -0500
From: vkulka...@columnit.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

**

Delete from remedy as far as possible.

Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:



**
Dears,
I'd like to delete the history and keep only the last two years.
so, is it better to delete form remedy forms or DB..?
Thanks


Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:41:23 +0530
From: kiranpatil@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

**
Hi Mahmoud,

You can achieve remedy archiving using some of the external tools like rrchive, 
Informatica, BMC DSO

1. First find out business timeframe and condition for data archieving.
2. Identify main forms and related forms to archieve.

Use any of the above tool or similar tool to migrate data.

Challenge here would be data integritiy which should be impacted.

Good Luck !!

Regards
Kiran






On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mahmoud mahdy 
mahmoud_ma...@live.commailto:mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:
**
Dears,

Kindly help as we have (500 GB database file) which affecting our performance 
and causing system down.
is there a way to truncate the history data from the system or DB..?.

Thanks,
Best Regards,

_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_



--
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Kiran Patil
Cognizant Technology Solutions
Pune, India
Mob No: +91 989 037 7125

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Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

2013-07-15 Thread mahmoud mahdy
where can I get RRR tool..??
 



Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:44:24 -0500
From: vkulka...@columnit.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** Well use tools like RRR to delete data via remedy. I have deleted similar 
sized data. In less than 3 weeks.

Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:


** 


I contacted WIPRO whom support BMC Remedy, and they told me that deleting from 
DB level is better as it is a huge data and the system may not be able to 
complete.
 



Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:19:48 -0500
From: vkulka...@columnit.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** Delete from remedy as far as possible. 

Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:


** 


Dears,
I'd like to delete the history and keep only the last two years.
so, is it better to delete form remedy forms or DB..?
Thanks
 



Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:41:23 +0530
From: kiranpatil@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 

Hi Mahmoud,


You can achieve remedy archiving using some of the external tools like rrchive, 
Informatica, BMC DSO


1. First find out business timeframe and condition for data archieving.
2. Identify main forms and related forms to archieve.


Use any of the above tool or similar tool to migrate data.


Challenge here would be data integritiy which should be impacted.


Good Luck !!


Regards
Kiran











On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:

** 

Dears,
 
Kindly help as we have (500 GB database file) which affecting our performance 
and causing system down.
is there a way to truncate the history data from the system or DB..?.
 
Thanks,
Best Regards,
 
_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ 


-- 

Regards 
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Cognizant Technology Solutions
Pune, India
Mob No: +91 989 037 7125

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Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

2013-07-15 Thread Kiran Patil
Hi,

Please refer below link for RRR tool details.
*https://www.rrr.se/cgi/index?pg=chive-doc*


If you are thinking of using Remedy Archiving to implement, below are brief
details
To delete the older records we can use the archive option in AR System form.

 Open the required form in Developer Studio, go to Form-Form
Properties-Archive:

Enable the archiving and set it to any one of the followings as per
requirement
.. Copy to Archive and Delete from Source if you want to only move the data
to the archive form and delete it from main source form.
.. Copy to Archive, so that the data is moved to archive form and it is
still present on the main form.
.. Delete from Source, if you want to delete the data from the main form.

In case you want to delete the records and no longer need it select Delete
from source. Once you delete the records from the main form you will not be
able to get them back. So use this option with caution.
*[Note: Remedy archiving has big performance impact, so avoid to perform
this activity during business working hours]*

Regards
Kiran


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:34 PM, mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.comwrote:

 **
 where can I get RRR tool..??

  --
 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:44:24 -0500

 From: vkulka...@columnit.com
 Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

 **

 Well use tools like RRR to delete data via remedy. I have deleted similar 
 sized data. In less than 3 weeks.

 Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

 mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:


 **
 I contacted WIPRO whom support BMC Remedy, and they told me that deleting
 from DB level is better as it is a huge data and the system may not be able
 to complete.

  --
 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:19:48 -0500
 From: vkulka...@columnit.com
 Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

 **

 Delete from remedy as far as possible.

 Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

 mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:


 **
 Dears,
 I'd like to delete the history and keep only the last two years.
 so, is it better to delete form remedy forms or DB..?
 Thanks

  --
 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:41:23 +0530
 From: kiranpatil@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

 **
 Hi Mahmoud,

 You can achieve remedy archiving using some of the external tools like
 rrchive, Informatica, BMC DSO

 1. First find out business timeframe and condition for data archieving.
 2. Identify main forms and related forms to archieve.

 Use any of the above tool or similar tool to migrate data.

 Challenge here would be data integritiy which should be impacted.

 Good Luck !!

 Regards
 Kiran






 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.comwrote:

 **
 Dears,

 Kindly help as we have (500 GB database file) which affecting our
 performance and causing system down.
 is there a way to truncate the history data from the system or DB..?.

 Thanks,
 Best Regards,

 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_




 --
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 *
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 *Cognizant Technology Solutions*
 *Pune, India*
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 *
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Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

2013-07-15 Thread Bryan Waters
Since you are running ARS 7.1.x, I suspect you are storing CLOBs out of
row(default config) which will increase the db size drastically.  We have
gone through conversions to move the CLOBS to in-row, and it shrank the db
anywhere from 60-80%.  You can have your dba review the tables to confirm
the CLOB tables are consuming a lot of disk space or not.

 

Thanks,

Bryan

 

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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 5:41 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1

 

** 

I contacted WIPRO whom support BMC Remedy, and they told me that deleting
from DB level is better as it is a huge data and the system may not be able
to complete.
 

  _  

Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:19:48 -0500
From: vkulka...@columnit.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 

Delete from remedy as far as possible. 
 
Sent from my XperiaT smartphone
 
mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com wrote:
 

** 

Dears,
I'd like to delete the history and keep only the last two years.
so, is it better to delete form remedy forms or DB..?
Thanks
 

  _  

Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:41:23 +0530
From: kiranpatil@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Archive Incident Management Change Management 7.1
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 

Hi Mahmoud,

 

You can achieve remedy archiving using some of the external tools like
rrchive, Informatica, BMC DSO

 

1. First find out business timeframe and condition for data archieving.

2. Identify main forms and related forms to archieve.

 

Use any of the above tool or similar tool to migrate data.

 

Challenge here would be data integritiy which should be impacted.

 

Good Luck !!

 

Regards

Kiran

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mahmoud mahdy mahmoud_ma...@live.com
wrote:

** 

Dears,
 
Kindly help as we have (500 GB database file) which affecting our
performance and causing system down.
is there a way to truncate the history data from the system or DB..?.
 
Thanks,
Best Regards,
 

_ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ 





 

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Cognizant Technology Solutions

Pune, India

Mob No: +91 989 037 7125

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