Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-20 Thread Mayfield, Andy L.
I totally disagree. The thin client is simply unable to do everything
you can do with the fat client.  It's a great tool for those not needing
all functionality of the WUT, but it's just not as powerful as the WUT. 

 

Andy L. Mayfield
Protection  Control Technician Sr.
Alabama Power Company
Office: 205-226-1805
Cell: 205-288-9140
SoLinc: 10*19140 



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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:50 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

For me I use desktop client and web client.  Seems to be more readily
understandable for those users who are new to the Remedy system.  Fat
client went out with the client server architecture of the 90's.

 

~Jim 

From: Axton [mailto:axton.gr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
cobwebs are getting thick).

Axton

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf
tauf.chowdh...@frx.com wrote:

Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client
or even Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury 
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779


 


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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer
to the Admin Tool as the True Windows Administration Tool to
differentiate it from the Developer Studio.

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use WAT for Windows
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called Developer Studio, that
acronym will most likely fade away.


-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for
BMC Software, Inc.

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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.
WUT is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.
Probably was used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.
When did we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?
 
Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone
please answer definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a
couple of weeks, and I felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM
 ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
http://its.state.nc.us
 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-18 Thread Jarl Grøneng
2009/4/18 Louise Van Hine lvanh...@yahoo.com:
 **
 never heard or used the term fat client - when ARWeb first came out it was
 billed as the thin client in contradistinction to the thick client WUT.

 Back in the good old days of the UNIX-only server version, there was an


Due to lack of beeing supported we created our own perl based terminal
version :-)

Regards,
Jarl

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Carey Matthew Black
Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the thick web client (applet based), (AKA Fat web client)

ARWeb was the thin web client (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the FAT client.
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
might also have called it the OMUT OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
memories It's dead.

Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a FAt client. (Not quite as fat
as the FAT client, but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
letter.)

Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

[ It is Friday right? :) ]

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
 ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
 that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
 cobwebs are getting thick).

 Axton

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf tauf.chowdh...@frx.com
 wrote:

 Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
 even Big Boned Client? :)

 Tauf Chowdhury

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Pierson, Shawn
I need help now.  I had the fat client installed on my PC, and thought I would 
be a nice guy and help it lose some weight.  So I deleted the contents of the 
C:\Home directory and C:\Program Files\AR System\User\resdlls\ which did make 
it thinner, but now it doesn't work.

Any suggestions?  Is the best way to help the fat client lose weight exercise?  
I run my fat client every day and if anything it gets larger with all the cache 
downloaded for the different forms.

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Reiser, John J
How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

--- 
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Senior Software Development Analyst 
Remedy Administrator/Developer 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the thick web client (applet based), (AKA Fat web client)

ARWeb was the thin web client (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the FAT client.
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
might also have called it the OMUT OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
memories It's dead.

Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a FAt client. (Not quite as fat
as the FAT client, but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
letter.)

Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

[ It is Friday right? :) ]

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
 ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
 that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
 cobwebs are getting thick).

 Axton

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf tauf.chowdh...@frx.com
 wrote:

 Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
 even Big Boned Client? :)

 Tauf Chowdhury

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Rick Cook
Tell it to only accept lower case letters in small font sizes. And NEVER 
maximize the window. Its just empty pixels. 

Rick
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Pierson, Shawn shawn.pier...@sug.com

Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:08:13 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?


I need help now.  I had the fat client installed on my PC, and thought I would 
be a nice guy and help it lose some weight.  So I deleted the contents of the 
C:\Home directory and C:\Program Files\AR System\User\resdlls\ which did make 
it thinner, but now it doesn't work.

Any suggestions?  Is the best way to help the fat client lose weight exercise?  
I run my fat client every day and if anything it gets larger with all the cache 
downloaded for the different forms.

Private and confidential as detailed here: 
http://www.sug.com/disclaimers/default.htm#Mail . If you cannot access the 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Howard Richter
If its too Fat will BMC charge more for it, like United?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Reiser, John J john.j.rei...@lmco.comwrote:

 How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

 ---
 John J. Reiser
 Senior Software Development Analyst
 Remedy Administrator/Developer
 Lockheed Martin - MS2
 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
 Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
 me
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
 Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 Axton,

 I think I was more like this:

 RemedyWeb was the thick web client (applet based), (AKA Fat web client)

 ARWeb was the thin web client (DHTML/Javascript based)

 WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the FAT client.
 Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
 letters.)

 You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
 might also have called it the OMUT OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
 only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
 a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
 memories It's dead.

 Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
 v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a FAt client. (Not quite as fat
 as the FAT client, but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
 letter.)

 Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
 there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

 [ It is Friday right? :) ]

 --
 Carey Matthew Black
 BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
 ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

 Love, then teach
 Solution = People + Process + Tools
 Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
  ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
  that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
  cobwebs are getting thick).
 
  Axton
 
  On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf tauf.chowdh...@frx.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client
 or
  even Big Boned Client? :)
 
  Tauf Chowdhury


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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Coryat
For me I use desktop client and web client.  Seems to be more readily
understandable for those users who are new to the Remedy system.  Fat
client went out with the client server architecture of the 90's.

 

~Jim 

From: Axton [mailto:axton.gr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
cobwebs are getting thick).

Axton

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf
tauf.chowdh...@frx.com wrote:

Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client
or even Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury 
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779


 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer
to the Admin Tool as the True Windows Administration Tool to
differentiate it from the Developer Studio.

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use WAT for Windows
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called Developer Studio, that
acronym will most likely fade away.


-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for
BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.
WUT is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.
Probably was used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.
When did we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?
 
Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone
please answer definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a
couple of weeks, and I felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM
 ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
http://its.state.nc.us
 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Shyman, Jonathan
No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a smart client.

You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form for you, get 
you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it can't open the pod bay 
doors now.

:)

J.T. Shyman


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Reiser, John J
Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
 
How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Remedy Administrator/Developer 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the thick web client (applet based), (AKA Fat web client)

ARWeb was the thin web client (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the FAT client.
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
might also have called it the OMUT OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
memories It's dead.

Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a FAt client. (Not quite as fat
as the FAT client, but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
letter.)

Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

[ It is Friday right? :) ]

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
 ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
 that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
 cobwebs are getting thick).

 Axton

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf tauf.chowdh...@frx.com
 wrote:

 Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
 even Big Boned Client? :)

 Tauf Chowdhury

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Susan Palmer
Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT client.
Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term especially once
web became more prolific.  And as with most THIN clients in the past they
did not have the full abilities of the FAT client which was many times
overlooked since often THIN seemed to be preferred.  But many people
realized that the FAT client was more fulfilling and rewarding.  Now THIN
client has improved but will never be quite as good as the FAT client but
many will continue to overlook that.  Go FAT !!

Susan  :)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shyman, Jonathan jshy...@columnit.comwrote:

 **

 No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a smart
 client.

 You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form for you,
 get you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it can't open the pod
 bay doors now.

 :)

 J.T. Shyman



 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Reiser,
 John J
 Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

 ---
 John J. Reiser
 Senior Software Development Analyst
 Remedy Administrator/Developer
 Lockheed Martin - MS2
 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
 Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
 me
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Carey
 Matthew Black
 Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 Axton,

 I think I was more like this:

 RemedyWeb was the thick web client (applet based), (AKA Fat web client)

 ARWeb was the thin web client (DHTML/Javascript based)

 WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the FAT client.
 Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
 letters.)

 You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
 might also have called it the OMUT OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
 only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
 a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
 memories It's dead.

 Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
 v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a FAt client. (Not quite as fat
 as the FAT client, but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
 letter.)

 Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
 there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

 [ It is Friday right? :) ]

 --
 Carey Matthew Black
 BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
 ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

 Love, then teach
 Solution = People + Process + Tools
 Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
  ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
  that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
  cobwebs are getting thick).
 
  Axton
 
  On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf tauf.chowdh...@frx.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client
 or
  even Big Boned Client? :)
 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Sanford, Claire
Bravo Susan!  I couldn't have said it better myself!  
 
Go FAT!
 
What a bunch of sizeists!



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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:33 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?


** 
Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT client.
Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term especially
once web became more prolific.  And as with most THIN clients in the
past they did not have the full abilities of the FAT client which was
many times overlooked since often THIN seemed to be preferred.  But many
people realized that the FAT client was more fulfilling and rewarding.
Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the FAT
client but many will continue to overlook that.  Go FAT !!
 
Susan  :)


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wrote:


** 

No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a
smart client.

You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a
form for you, get you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it
can't open the pod bay doors now.

:)

J.T. Shyman 



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Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the thick web client (applet based), (AKA Fat
web client)

ARWeb was the thin web client (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the FAT
client.
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital
sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However,
you
might also have called it the OMUT OSF/Motif User Tool too.
But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember
it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
memories It's dead.

Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool,
was that
v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a FAt client. (Not quite
as fat
as the FAT client, but fatter than the Fat web client by one
capital
letter.)

Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell
out
there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

[ It is Friday right? :) ]

--
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com
wrote:
 ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the
clients.  But
 that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that
right; the
 cobwebs are getting thick).

 Axton

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf
tauf.chowdh...@frx.com
 wrote:

 Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or
Portly Client or
 even Big Boned Client? :)

 Tauf Chowdhury



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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-17 Thread Louise Van Hine
never heard or used the term fat client - when ARWeb first came out it was 
billed as the thin client in contradistinction to the thick client WUT.
 
Back in the good old days of the UNIX-only server version, there was an ASCII 
client.  Otherwise known as the anorexic client.




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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread LJ Longwing
I'm not sure if the user tool was ever actually named the 'fat client' by
the vendor...that has always just been a reference to its footprint on the
client, vs the thin footprint of the web client...I typically use the term
'native client' when referring to the wut and web client when referring to
the Mid-Tier...but that's just me...:)

  _  

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?


** 

I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.  When did
we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?

 

Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please
answer definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a couple of
weeks, and I felt really dumb.

 

I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.

 

Jennifer Meyer

Remedy Technical Support Specialist

State of North Carolina

Office Of Information Technology Services

Service Delivery Division

ITSM  ITAM Services

Office: 919-754-6543

ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread Shellman, David
Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I’ve suddenly realized that “WUT” stands for “windows user tool.”  When did 
we stop saying “fat client” and “thin client” or “mid tier?”
 
Are “fat” and “”thin” outmoded with today’s networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today’s caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because “WUT” threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I’m seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services
Service Delivery Division
ITSM  ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread Meyer, Jennifer L
Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.  When did 
we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?
 
Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services
Service Delivery Division
ITSM  ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread Easter, David
In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use WAT for Windows 
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called Developer Studio, that acronym 
will most likely fade away.

 
-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.  When did 
we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?
 
Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM  ITAM 
Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread Meyer, Jennifer L
I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to the 
Admin Tool as the True Windows Administration Tool to differentiate it from 
the Developer Studio.

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use WAT for Windows 
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called Developer Studio, that acronym 
will most likely fade away.

 
-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.
 
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.  When did 
we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?
 
Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM  ITAM 
Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread Chowdhury, Tauf
Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or even 
Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury 
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779

 


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to the 
Admin Tool as the True Windows Administration Tool to differentiate it from 
the Developer Studio.

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use WAT for Windows 
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called Developer Studio, that acronym 
will most likely fade away.

 
-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.  When did 
we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?
 
Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM  ITAM 
Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread LJ Longwing
Sometimes you just gotta call a cow a cow... 

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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
even Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury
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Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779

 


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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to
the Admin Tool as the True Windows Administration Tool to differentiate it
from the Developer Studio.

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use WAT for Windows
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called Developer Studio, that acronym
will most likely fade away.

 
-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development BMC Software, Inc.
 
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Inc.

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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT
is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was
used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.  When
did we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?
 
Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please
answer definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a couple of
weeks, and I felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM 
ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread Shyman, Jonathan
...and sometimes you have to call a tool a tool, which is what it is after all. 

I believe FAT is actually an acronym that stands for Finally Approved Testing 
and it was used to denote the first windows version of any program that 
actually ran without causing a fatal exception.

...and I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. Cheap!

:)

--- J.T. Shyman
 
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Sometimes you just gotta call a cow a cow... 

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Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
even Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779

 


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I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to
the Admin Tool as the True Windows Administration Tool to differentiate it
from the Developer Studio.

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

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In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use WAT for Windows
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called Developer Studio, that acronym
will most likely fade away.

 
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Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development BMC Software, Inc.
 
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Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT
is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was
used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
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To: Arslist
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Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.  When
did we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?
 
Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please
answer definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a couple of
weeks, and I felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread Pat Zandi
Buffalo girl won't ya come out tonight , come out tonight, come out  
tonight...


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On Apr 16, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf  
tauf.chowdh...@frx.com wrote:


Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly  
Client or even Big Boned Client? :)


Tauf Chowdhury
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779




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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to  
refer to the Admin Tool as the True Windows Administration Tool to  
differentiate it from the Developer Studio.


I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Easter, David

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use WAT for Windows  
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called Developer Studio, that  
acronym will most likely fade away.



-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.

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relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym  
before.


Jennifer Meyer

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Shellman, David

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the  
years.  WUT is actually an old name that has been around for a long  
time.  Probably was used much more in the past than fat/thin client.

--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user  
tool.  When did we stop saying fat client and thin client or  
mid tier?


Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities,  
or simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?   
Someone please answer definitively, because WUT threw me for a  
loop for a couple of weeks, and I felt really dumb.


I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.

Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division  
ITSM  ITAM Services

Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

2009-04-16 Thread Axton
I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But that
was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the cobwebs
are getting thick).

Axton

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf tauf.chowdh...@frx.comwrote:

 Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
 even Big Boned Client? :)

 Tauf Chowdhury
 Analyst, Service Management
 Office: 631.858.7765
 Mobile:646.483.2779




 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to
 the Admin Tool as the True Windows Administration Tool to differentiate it
 from the Developer Studio.

 I couldn't resist

 Jennifer Meyer

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use WAT for Windows
 Administration Tool.  Now that it's called Developer Studio, that acronym
 will most likely fade away.


 -David J. Easter
 Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
 BMC Software, Inc.

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

 Jennifer Meyer

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 Jennifer,

 The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT
 is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was
 used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
 --Original Message--
 From: Meyer, Jennifer L
 To: Arslist
 ReplyTo: Arslist
 Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
 Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

 ** I've suddenly realized that WUT stands for windows user tool.  When
 did we stop saying fat client and thin client or mid tier?

 Are fat and thin outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
 simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please
 answer definitively, because WUT threw me for a loop for a couple of
 weeks, and I felt really dumb.

 I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.

 Jennifer Meyer
 Remedy Technical Support Specialist
 State of North Carolina
 Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM 
 ITAM Services
 Office: 919-754-6543
 ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
 jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
 http://its.state.nc.us

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