Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
Chan Da, *** Or was it a result of a prejudice, possibly born out of envy, possibly out of sheer ignorance, and surely due to the Indian outlook of making broad-brush judgements from tiny sampling; to paint NE women as immoral temptresses who are ruining the morality of rich Dilliwallas? I might have missed ur point. You are right. Nothing is more true. Rgds Mridul Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mridul: We are missing the point here. WHO are the CUSTOMERS here of these immoral NE women who pay huge amounts of money for their services? Would there be such service providers if there were no customers? Are these customers also immoral foreigners like those women that were singled out? How many prostitues are in Dilli? Any guesses? I have no problem believing that there are women from the NE who provide such services. But out of that how many could be one of those ---trendy Northeast Indian girl ? 50%, 10%, 1% ? But why do they get picked on? For a very good reason: They are good looking, speak good English and sophisticated. Remember, the report says they get very good fees for their services ? So what was the motive of his guy who wrote this supposed expose' ? *** To help eradicate a social evil in Dilli ? *** To help eradicate trafficking of women from the NE? *** Or was it a result of a prejudice, possibly born out of envy, possibly out of sheer ignorance, and surely due to the Indian outlook of making broad-brush judgements from tiny sampling; to paint NE women as immoral temptresses who are ruining the morality of rich Dilliwallas? You take your pick. c-da At 8:25 PM -0800 2/6/08, Mridul Bhuyan wrote: Chan Da, The hard fact is, being in Delhi for about 14 years, I can't deny involvement of some of these folks in the prohibited practice. However, it is gross to generalise all North Easterners for the deeds of a very few of them. Besides, I don't think there's any customer involved as they use all for their own consumption. But, I agree, it is hightime some steps are taken to let the Delhites know that most of the North Easterners are more civilised than others. Rgds Mridul Chan Mahanta wrote: Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Hi Ankur, This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light). It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not sure how many times and how long we can keep this up. IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception for the long run. A few suggestions, for what they are worth: 1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and lastly of course its people. 2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines about the culture/language/people 3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or other cultural events/plays in other places. When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception. The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and experience its hospitality. --Ram da On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora wrote: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM Dear Sir , This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper ( Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I would also like to let you know there is no contact information on the News paper website and as such I am mailing directly for your attenion. I also request K. Sachidananda Murthy of Malayala Manorama , Geetartha Pathak of AssamBani , Abhay Chhajlani of Nai Dunia Parisar and Sanjoh Hazarika to raise this issue at the appropriate forum. Yours Sincerely Ankur Bora Austin , Texas The content of the newpaper
Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
Hi Mridul: We are missing the point here. WHO are the CUSTOMERS here of these immoral NE women who pay huge amounts of money for their services? Would there be such service providers if there were no customers? Are these customers also immoral foreigners like those women that were singled out? How many prostitues are in Dilli? Any guesses? I have no problem believing that there are women from the NE who provide such services. But out of that how many could be one of those ---trendy Northeast Indian girl ? 50%, 10%, 1% ? But why do they get picked on? For a very good reason: They are good looking, speak good English and sophisticated. Remember, the report says they get very good fees for their services ? So what was the motive of his guy who wrote this supposed expose' ? *** To help eradicate a social evil in Dilli ? *** To help eradicate trafficking of women from the NE? *** Or was it a result of a prejudice, possibly born out of envy, possibly out of sheer ignorance, and surely due to the Indian outlook of making broad-brush judgements from tiny sampling; to paint NE women as immoral temptresses who are ruining the morality of rich Dilliwallas? You take your pick. c-da At 8:25 PM -0800 2/6/08, Mridul Bhuyan wrote: Chan Da, The hard fact is, being in Delhi for about 14 years, I can't deny involvement of some of these folks in the prohibited practice. However, it is gross to generalise all North Easterners for the deeds of a very few of them. Besides, I don't think there's any customer involved as they use all for their own consumption. But, I agree, it is hightime some steps are taken to let the Delhites know that most of the North Easterners are more civilised than others. Rgds Mridul Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Hi Ankur, This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light). It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not sure how many times and how long we can keep this up. IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception for the long run. A few suggestions, for what they are worth: 1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and lastly of course its people. 2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines about the culture/language/people 3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or other cultural events/plays in other places. When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception. The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and experience its hospitality. --Ram da On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora wrote: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM Dear Sir , This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper ( Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I would also like to let you know there is no contact information on the News paper website and as such I am mailing directly for your attenion. I also request K. Sachidananda Murthy of Malayala Manorama , Geetartha Pathak of AssamBani , Abhay Chhajlani of Nai Dunia Parisar and Sanjoh Hazarika to raise this issue at the appropriate forum. Yours Sincerely Ankur Bora Austin , Texas The content of the newpaper article is attached below. Monday, January 28, 2008 Druglords prey on N-E girls to act as peddlers By Kumar Vikram in New Delhi The next time a cocaine addict in Delhi orders for a fix, its unlikely that an African man will be standing at the door. Instead, itll probably be a young, trendy
Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
Prejudices arising out of factors like regionalism, parochialism etc. are one thing.Considering a group of people or a race or a creed or caste as sub-humans or pariahs is a step beyond that. Some prejudices arise out of competitions or clashes, but prejudices arising not out of these but with a view to persecute or to exploit is another. umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indians everywhere are regionalists - in Delhi Biharis are cosndiered thieves and cheats, Haryanvis are considered uncouth ruffians, Bengalis are intellectual snobs , and so on and so forth. Only educated elite are Punjabis and somewaht South Indians. In Rajasthan Sindhis are considered smooth talking modern cheats, South Indians are considered educated clerks etc etc. Madhya Pradesh is more cosmopolitan - being in the center of India - having people fro all over and 27% population being tribals. Maharasthra is for all to see - with UP guys getting beaten up for celebrating their own Hindu rituals and no those of Maharasthra. In SOuth India even educated people even know and care little of north India besides Delhi. At Chennai train station a friend's friend asked me where is Jaipur. He was from a top college there. In my apartment complex I saw a notice where it was scratched out Indians only - it was an advt for accommodation available. Made me proud that we had a Chinese roommate recently, though. Regionalism is very very high in India - but what is this newspaper Mail Today - never heard of it. Even in US I hear people calling Andhra guys so many names- though I admire their resourcefulness and business acumen. Umesh Chan Mahanta wrote: You are right Uttam. It also underscores the mentality that is quite pervasive among many Indians, of p***ing down on those whom they consider racially inferior but suck-up to those whose approval they so seek and deem superior. The other day I riled a bunch of desis complaining about racism in America ( which does exist) when I proposed that Indians are some of the worst racists on the face of this earth. There were indignant denials, but I held my ground . At 3:13 AM + 2/6/08, uttam borthakur wrote: It seems the police or whatever authorities have the mindset of blaming race as the root of criminality. If it is not Neo-Nazist attitude, what is? The bias was clearly against Africans and now against North East Indians: all lesser human beings from a nort indian perspective. I tend to think that they will now try to build a genetic theory for drug peddlars. Chan Mahanta wrote: Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Hi Ankur, This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light). It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not sure how many times and how long we can keep this up. IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception for the long run. A few suggestions, for what they are worth: 1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and lastly of course its people. 2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines about the culture/language/people 3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or other cultural events/plays in other places. When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception. The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and experience its hospitality. --Ram da On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora wrote: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM Dear Sir , This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper ( Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I would also like to let you know there is no contact
Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
At 1:45 PM + 2/6/08, uttam borthakur wrote: Prejudices arising out of factors like regionalism, parochialism etc. are one thing.Considering a group of people or a race or a creed or caste as sub-humans or pariahs is a step beyond that. Some prejudices arise out of competitions or clashes, but prejudices arising not out of these but with a view to persecute or to exploit is another. *** Exactly right. Well said! umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indians everywhere are regionalists - in Delhi Biharis are cosndiered thieves and cheats, Haryanvis are considered uncouth ruffians, Bengalis are intellectual snobs , and so on and so forth. Only educated elite are Punjabis and somewaht South Indians. In Rajasthan Sindhis are considered smooth talking modern cheats, South Indians are considered educated clerks etc etc. Madhya Pradesh is more cosmopolitan - being in the center of India - having people fro all over and 27% population being tribals. Maharasthra is for all to see - with UP guys getting beaten up for celebrating their own Hindu rituals and no those of Maharasthra. In SOuth India even educated people even know and care little of north India besides Delhi. At Chennai train station a friend's friend asked me where is Jaipur. He was from a top college there. In my apartment complex I saw a notice where it was scratched out Indians only - it was an advt for accommodation available. Made me proud that we had a Chinese roommate recently, though. Regionalism is very very high in India - but what is this newspaper Mail Today - never heard of it. Even in US I hear people calling Andhra guys so many names- though I admire their resourcefulness and business acumen. Umesh Chan Mahanta wrote: You are right Uttam. It also underscores the mentality that is quite pervasive among many Indians, of p***ing down on those whom they consider racially inferior but suck-up to those whose approval they so seek and deem superior. The other day I riled a bunch of desis complaining about racism in America ( which does exist) when I proposed that Indians are some of the worst racists on the face of this earth. There were indignant denials, but I held my ground . At 3:13 AM + 2/6/08, uttam borthakur wrote: It seems the police or whatever authorities have the mindset of blaming race as the root of criminality. If it is not Neo-Nazist attitude, what is? The bias was clearly against Africans and now against North East Indians: all lesser human beings from a nort indian perspective. I tend to think that they will now try to build a genetic theory for drug peddlars. Chan Mahanta wrote: Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Hi Ankur, This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light). It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not sure how many times and how long we can keep this up. IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception for the long run. A few suggestions, for what they are worth: 1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and lastly of course its people. 2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines about the culture/language/people 3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or other cultural events/plays in other places. When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception. The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and experience its hospitality. --Ram da On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora wrote: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM Dear Sir , This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper ( Mail Today) and the
Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
Chan Da, The hard fact is, being in Delhi for about 14 years, I can't deny involvement of some of these folks in the prohibited practice. However, it is gross to generalise all North Easterners for the deeds of a very few of them. Besides, I don't think there's any customer involved as they use all for their own consumption. But, I agree, it is hightime some steps are taken to let the Delhites know that most of the North Easterners are more civilised than others. Rgds Mridul Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Hi Ankur, This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light). It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not sure how many times and how long we can keep this up. IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception for the long run. A few suggestions, for what they are worth: 1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and lastly of course its people. 2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines about the culture/language/people 3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or other cultural events/plays in other places. When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception. The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and experience its hospitality. --Ram da On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora wrote: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM Dear Sir , This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper ( Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I would also like to let you know there is no contact information on the News paper website and as such I am mailing directly for your attenion. I also request K. Sachidananda Murthy of Malayala Manorama , Geetartha Pathak of AssamBani , Abhay Chhajlani of Nai Dunia Parisar and Sanjoh Hazarika to raise this issue at the appropriate forum. Yours Sincerely Ankur Bora Austin , Texas The content of the newpaper article is attached below. Monday, January 28, 2008 Druglords prey on N-E girls to act as peddlers By Kumar Vikram in New Delhi The next time a cocaine addict in Delhi orders for a fix, its unlikely that an African man will be standing at the door. Instead, itll probably be a young, trendy Northeast Indian girl. And for a few extra thousands, shell put sex on offer as well. This revelation about the illegal drug trade came to light last year, during the court hearing of a Nigerian peddler. A police officer said, Our investigating officers were surprised to find that many Northeastern girls would attend the hearing at the Patiala Court House. We decided to probe further. And the skeletons came tumbling out. Where the girls score over the men is that they can offer customers a combo-pack - sex and drugs. The nexus works like this: the client calls the peddler (usually African) for cocaine; the peddler gives the stuff to the girl; she delivers it to the designated place, which is usually a farmhouse or five-star hotel; and if the customer is willing and has the money, the girl throws in sex as an added offer. The clients are high-end and as a result, the girls earn much more than they would earlier, the officer said. Rates can vary from anything between Rs 25,000 and Rs 50,000 for a few hours of intoxication and intercourse. The genesis of the trend, say sources, lies in the Rahul Mahajan case. The arrest of two Nigerian nationals put the spotlight on their counterparts and, suddenly, African nationals roaming around in, say, a shopping complex were viewed with suspicion by even common people, let alone the police. There
Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
Chan da and Mr Mridul, Ironically these are surely the NEPALIs- who resemble more with NE people and spoiling bean everywhere the country.Due to this, people take all mongoloids as North east Indian. Drugs and prostitutions are the worst habit of Nepali including specialized in smuggling. I carry this experience from localites where ever I was and am now.Finally I found them to be nepali.gunja and Mohini Bhang are being transported to Chennai and Bangalore by them from Nepal, but users say from Assam.And the customers are high profile people of the rich. We need to overcome this at this crucial moment. Bikash Bangalore. Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chan Da, The hard fact is, being in Delhi for about 14 years, I can't deny involvement of some of these folks in the prohibited practice. However, it is gross to generalise all North Easterners for the deeds of a very few of them. Besides, I don't think there's any customer involved as they use all for their own consumption. But, I agree, it is hightime some steps are taken to let the Delhites know that most of the North Easterners are more civilised than others. Rgds Mridul Chan Mahanta wrote: Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. Dr.Bikash Kumar Das Bangalore - Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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You should also ask the opinions of Delhiites about western white women or even NRI girls -- they are preceived to be open to sleeping around - just based on a very few who do so rarely but make headlines. Some years back I read a headline news in respected Rajasthan Patrika when a young woman from Brazil went missing from five star hotel Rajputana Sheraton at Jaipur, where she had checked in with her parents. She went to the hotel boutique that evening and never came back. Late night searches by police ended at a nearby hotel at 3am, where the girl had gone with a saleman at the boutique for a few drinks etc. The newsarticle was very racy - even given the staid traditional feudal culture of the state. Such rare incidents remain - even in my memory - 15,000 miles away from that place - many years later. They build local perception as well. Umesh DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chan da and Mr Mridul, Ironically these are surely the NEPALIs- who resemble more with NE people and spoiling bean everywhere the country.Due to this, people take all mongoloids as North east Indian. Drugs and prostitutions are the worst habit of Nepali including specialized in smuggling. I carry this experience from localites where ever I was and am now.Finally I found them to be nepali.gunja and Mohini Bhang are being transported to Chennai and Bangalore by them from Nepal, but users say from Assam.And the customers are high profile people of the rich. We need to overcome this at this crucial moment. Bikash Bangalore. Mridul Bhuyan wrote: Chan Da, The hard fact is, being in Delhi for about 14 years, I can't deny involvement of some of these folks in the prohibited practice. However, it is gross to generalise all North Easterners for the deeds of a very few of them. Besides, I don't think there's any customer involved as they use all for their own consumption. But, I agree, it is hightime some steps are taken to let the Delhites know that most of the North Easterners are more civilised than others. Rgds Mridul Chan Mahanta wrote: Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. Dr.Bikash Kumar Das Bangalore - Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Umesh Sharma Washington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info) www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used ) http://harvardscience.harvard.edu/ http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ - Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
Hi Ankur, This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light). It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not sure how many times and how long we can keep this up. IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception for the long run. A few suggestions, for what they are worth: 1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and lastly of course its people. 2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines about the culture/language/people 3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or other cultural events/plays in other places. When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception. The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and experience its hospitality. --Ram da On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM Dear Sir , This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper ( Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I would also like to let you know there is no contact information on the News paper website and as such I am mailing directly for your attenion. I also request K. Sachidananda Murthy of Malayala Manorama , Geetartha Pathak of AssamBani , Abhay Chhajlani of Nai Dunia Parisar and Sanjoh Hazarika to raise this issue at the appropriate forum. Yours Sincerely Ankur Bora Austin , Texas The content of the newpaper article is attached below. Monday, January 28, 2008 Druglords prey on N-E girls to act as peddlers By Kumar Vikram in New Delhi The next time a cocaine addict in Delhi orders for a fix, its unlikely that an African man will be standing at the door. Instead, itll probably be a young, trendy Northeast Indian girl. And for a few extra thousands, shell put sex on offer as well. This revelation about the illegal drug trade came to light last year, during the court hearing of a Nigerian peddler. A police officer said, Our investigating officers were surprised to find that many Northeastern girls would attend the hearing at the Patiala Court House. We decided to probe further. And the skeletons came tumbling out. Where the girls score over the men is that they can offer customers a combo-pack – sex and drugs. The nexus works like this: the client calls the peddler (usually African) for cocaine; the peddler gives the stuff to the girl; she delivers it to the designated place, which is usually a farmhouse or five-star hotel; and if the customer is willing and has the money, the girl throws in sex as an added offer. The clients are high-end and as a result, the girls earn much more than they would earlier, the officer said. Rates can vary from anything between Rs 25,000 and Rs 50,000 for a few hours of intoxication and intercourse. The genesis of the trend, say sources, lies in the Rahul Mahajan case. The arrest of two Nigerian nationals put the spotlight on their counterparts and, suddenly, African nationals roaming around in, say, a shopping complex were viewed with suspicion by even common people, let alone the police. There were several raids conducted across the city, at the end of which eight Nigerians ended up in prison. Customs officials at the Indira Gandhi International Airport pulled up their socks too and at the end of 2007, the total toll of picked-up Africans numbered 70. Enter the Northeastern girl, her age between 22 and 30. This entry, though, was quite a logical fallout of things. Most of the Nigerians peddlers were centred around the Munirka area in southwest Delhi, which has a large population of northeastern girls too. As an officer said, Most of these girls are call centre employees open to the idea of
Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Hi Ankur, This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light). It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not sure how many times and how long we can keep this up. IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception for the long run. A few suggestions, for what they are worth: 1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and lastly of course its people. 2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines about the culture/language/people 3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or other cultural events/plays in other places. When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception. The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and experience its hospitality. --Ram da On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM Dear Sir , This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper ( Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I would also like to let you know there is no contact information on the News paper website and as such I am mailing directly for your attenion. I also request K. Sachidananda Murthy of Malayala Manorama , Geetartha Pathak of AssamBani , Abhay Chhajlani of Nai Dunia Parisar and Sanjoh Hazarika to raise this issue at the appropriate forum. Yours Sincerely Ankur Bora Austin , Texas The content of the newpaper article is attached below. Monday, January 28, 2008 Druglords prey on N-E girls to act as peddlers By Kumar Vikram in New Delhi The next time a cocaine addict in Delhi orders for a fix, its unlikely that an African man will be standing at the door. Instead, itll probably be a young, trendy Northeast Indian girl. And for a few extra thousands, shell put sex on offer as well. This revelation about the illegal drug trade came to light last year, during the court hearing of a Nigerian peddler. A police officer said, Our investigating officers were surprised to find that many Northeastern girls would attend the hearing at the Patiala Court House. We decided to probe further. And the skeletons came tumbling out. Where the girls score over the men is that they can offer customers a combo-pack - sex and drugs. The nexus works like this: the client calls the peddler (usually African) for cocaine; the peddler gives the stuff to the girl; she delivers it to the designated place, which is usually a farmhouse or five-star hotel; and if the customer is willing and has the money, the girl throws in sex as an added offer. The clients are high-end and as a result, the girls earn much more than they would earlier, the officer said. Rates can vary from anything between Rs 25,000 and Rs 50,000 for a few hours of intoxication and intercourse. The genesis of the trend, say sources, lies in the Rahul Mahajan case. The arrest of two Nigerian nationals put the spotlight on their counterparts and, suddenly, African nationals roaming around in, say, a shopping complex were viewed with suspicion by even common people, let alone the police. There were several raids conducted across the city, at the end of which eight Nigerians ended up in prison. Customs officials at the Indira Gandhi International Airport pulled up their socks too and at the end of 2007, the total toll of picked-up Africans numbered 70. Enter the Northeastern girl, her age between 22 and 30. This entry, though, was quite a logical fallout of things. Most
Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
It seems the police or whatever authorities have the mindset of blaming race as the root of criminality. If it is not Neo-Nazist attitude, what is? The bias was clearly against Africans and now against North East Indians: all lesser human beings from a nort indian perspective. I tend to think that they will now try to build a genetic theory for drug peddlars. Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Hi Ankur, This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light). It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not sure how many times and how long we can keep this up. IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception for the long run. A few suggestions, for what they are worth: 1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and lastly of course its people. 2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines about the culture/language/people 3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or other cultural events/plays in other places. When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception. The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and experience its hospitality. --Ram da On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora wrote: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM Dear Sir , This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper ( Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I would also like to let you know there is no contact information on the News paper website and as such I am mailing directly for your attenion. I also request K. Sachidananda Murthy of Malayala Manorama , Geetartha Pathak of AssamBani , Abhay Chhajlani of Nai Dunia Parisar and Sanjoh Hazarika to raise this issue at the appropriate forum. Yours Sincerely Ankur Bora Austin , Texas The content of the newpaper article is attached below. Monday, January 28, 2008 Druglords prey on N-E girls to act as peddlers By Kumar Vikram in New Delhi The next time a cocaine addict in Delhi orders for a fix, its unlikely that an African man will be standing at the door. Instead, itll probably be a young, trendy Northeast Indian girl. And for a few extra thousands, shell put sex on offer as well. This revelation about the illegal drug trade came to light last year, during the court hearing of a Nigerian peddler. A police officer said, Our investigating officers were surprised to find that many Northeastern girls would attend the hearing at the Patiala Court House. We decided to probe further. And the skeletons came tumbling out. Where the girls score over the men is that they can offer customers a combo-pack - sex and drugs. The nexus works like this: the client calls the peddler (usually African) for cocaine; the peddler gives the stuff to the girl; she delivers it to the designated place, which is usually a farmhouse or five-star hotel; and if the customer is willing and has the money, the girl throws in sex as an added offer. The clients are high-end and as a result, the girls earn much more than they would earlier, the officer said. Rates can vary from anything between Rs 25,000 and Rs 50,000 for a few hours of intoxication and intercourse. The genesis of the trend, say sources, lies in the Rahul Mahajan case. The arrest of two Nigerian nationals put the spotlight on their counterparts and, suddenly, African nationals roaming around in, say, a shopping complex were viewed with suspicion by even common people, let alone the police. There were several raids conducted across the city, at the end of which eight Nigerians ended up in prison. Customs officials at the Indira
Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East
Indians everywhere are regionalists - in Delhi Biharis are cosndiered thieves and cheats, Haryanvis are considered uncouth ruffians, Bengalis are intellectual snobs , and so on and so forth. Only educated elite are Punjabis and somewaht South Indians. In Rajasthan Sindhis are considered smooth talking modern cheats, South Indians are considered educated clerks etc etc. Madhya Pradesh is more cosmopolitan - being in the center of India - having people fro all over and 27% population being tribals. Maharasthra is for all to see - with UP guys getting beaten up for celebrating their own Hindu rituals and no those of Maharasthra. In SOuth India even educated people even know and care little of north India besides Delhi. At Chennai train station a friend's friend asked me where is Jaipur. He was from a top college there. In my apartment complex I saw a notice where it was scratched out Indians only - it was an advt for accommodation available. Made me proud that we had a Chinese roommate recently, though. Regionalism is very very high in India - but what is this newspaper Mail Today - never heard of it. Even in US I hear people calling Andhra guys so many names- though I admire their resourcefulness and business acumen. Umesh Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right Uttam. It also underscores the mentality that is quite pervasive among many Indians, of p***ing down on those whom they consider racially inferior but suck-up to those whose approval they so seek and deem superior. The other day I riled a bunch of desis complaining about racism in America ( which does exist) when I proposed that Indians are some of the worst racists on the face of this earth. There were indignant denials, but I held my ground . At 3:13 AM + 2/6/08, uttam borthakur wrote: It seems the police or whatever authorities have the mindset of blaming race as the root of criminality. If it is not Neo-Nazist attitude, what is? The bias was clearly against Africans and now against North East Indians: all lesser human beings from a nort indian perspective. I tend to think that they will now try to build a genetic theory for drug peddlars. Chan Mahanta wrote: Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are. At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Hi Ankur, This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light). It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not sure how many times and how long we can keep this up. IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception for the long run. A few suggestions, for what they are worth: 1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and lastly of course its people. 2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines about the culture/language/people 3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or other cultural events/plays in other places. When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception. The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and experience its hospitality. --Ram da On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora wrote: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM Dear Sir , This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper ( Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I would also like to let you know there is no contact information on the News paper website and as such I am mailing directly for your attenion. I also request K. Sachidananda Murthy of Malayala Manorama , Geetartha Pathak of AssamBani , Abhay Chhajlani of Nai Dunia Parisar and Sanjoh Hazarika to raise this issue at the appropriate forum. Yours Sincerely Ankur Bora Austin , Texas The
