[Assam] Britain has a shared history with its immigrants - unlike America
Raiz There is an excellent leader in today's Daily Telegraph in its Opinion section. I believe the netters would appreciate the history of Indo-British relations vis-a-vis USA. The reproduced articleis below: Britain has a shared history with its immigrants - unlike AmericaBy Mihir Bose(Filed: 16/08/2005) In the early 1980s, when London Weekend Television was about to launch its first programme aimed at ethnic minorities, I was interviewed for the job of presenter. The interview was the most unusual I have ever had. It turned into a ferocious argument between me and the white interviewer about the relevance of the American experience of dealing with immigration. I tried to argue that Britain's experience was, historically, very different to that of America, and that blindly following their example would not be very useful. He disagreed and, needless to say, I did not get the job. I have been reminded of that episode as, following the bombs in London, there have been many references to how American-born Muslims have not taken to the bomb - apparently proving the superiority of the American way of integrating minorities. The problem with this analysis is that it ignores historical differences between the countries. Unlike America, Britain is not a country that has tended to import people. Indeed, it continued to export people until well into the post-war period. One of the iconic British movies of those years, Brief Encounter, ends with Trevor Howard telling Celia Johnson that he is emigrating to southern Africa. The arrival of immigrants in large numbers, and of a darker skin colour, changed things dramatically, but we are still not a country of immigrants. Nor has the British experience of colour been remotely similar to that of America, as the examples of Ranji and Jackie Robinson illustrate. Ranji, an Indian prince, played cricket for England in 1896, scoring a century on his debut against Australia at Old Trafford. It was more than half a century later, in 1947, that Robinson became the first black man to play major league baseball. The British Empire certainly had a racial curtain, inspired by a belief in white supremacy, but the curtain had gaps through which other races could creep. When the Bengal Club in Calcutta refused to let the viceroy hold a dinner to honour Lord Sinha, the first Indian member of the House of Lords, he joined Indians in setting up the Calcutta Club, which had both Indian and European members. The Americans had a racial wall, first erected by the US constitution, decreeing that a black man was to be considered equal to four fifths of a white man. The wall has now been smashed, but the idea of an irreconcilable difference between citizen and alien has survived. Whereas Britain, in her complicated way, recognised dual identities - the native retaining his culture but loyal to the Queen, the expat thinking of England but honouring his hosts - the US forces people to choose between place of origin and place of settling. The difference is simple but profound: America can impose a coherent historical narrative on immigrants because the countries they come from had no previous involvement with America. Settlers are able and
Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
C'da, It is totally fine for ULFA or anyone else to have a different view of democracy, independence or whether or not to celebrate I-Day. What is galling is the threat the ULFA imposes on a people, who at least in their minds think they are free and DO want to celebrate I-Day. ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others may not agree with those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and guns to control public opinion is utterly shameless. And the ULFA that supposedly yearns for freedom is the very same one that wants to scuttle it for Assamese people who don't agree with its views. Who are they kidding? --Ram On 8/15/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good to hear from you after a very long time Namita. But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather constricted aperture. There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see at: http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom waits. at: http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3 You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of Independence day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From What? c-da At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote: Feel terrible how the people of Assam are deprived of celebrating their own I-day by a terrible group. - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial Some of the sentiments a number of us have been expressing. __ I -Day violence Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an apparent move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even went to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the number of militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is coming down with every passing year with more and more militant outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for political solution of their problems and the possibility of the ULFA being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out. Major militant outfits of the North East region including both the factions of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India, while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National Democratic Front of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence Day celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of the outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give boycott calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use force to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing of 13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people of Assam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide public outcry against such kind of mindless killing before issuing any threat to the people who decide to attend the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA should also realise the fact that any killing of innocent people will further alienate the outfit from the masses and so they should desist from targeting innocent people to achieve their goals. The outfit should also realise that it would never be able to justify the killing of any innocent person to achieve its goal. The Police and other security agencies have made tight security arrangements to foil any attempt by the militant outfit from causing any disturbance, but no amount of security is adequate as the forces cannot be expected to guard every inch of the land. The militants have let loose a reign of terror in different parts of Assam with a series of bomb explosions during the run up to the Independence Day and instead of engaging the forces in encounters, the militants have started to resort to explosions to make their presence felt. With the availability of highly sophisticated explosive devices including the programmable time devices with the militants, it is impossible to detect bombs planted in vulnerable places with the equipment available with the State Police and efforts should be made to procaure sophisticated equipment to detect bombs planted by the militants under the scheme to modernise
Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
Title: Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT
editorial
- that youwill
beindependentas long as you will do whatI tell
youto do, or else!
You may be right Alpana. I cannot read the minds of
insurgents, and what they hold dear in their deep dark souls.
But to conclude what you do, obviously from actions of the
insurgency/armed struggle mode, as what would logically follow if they
achieve ine dependence, seems rather simple minded and grossly
uninformed --- something highly unexpected of someone of your
caliber.
But I do realize, the act of spinning often presents a skewed
perspective of our own real abilities or ideals. And Tilok Daktor once
told me that too much spinning could exert excessive centrifugal force
on the brain, causing it to get compressed against the cranium, and
permanently impair one's inferential abilities. If I were you, I would
watch out for that A. Tilok may be a goru-daktor and a Jokaisukiya at
that, but he has seen a lot of weird things, that we will never see,
and thus never learn from :-).
c-da
At 12:50 AM -0500 8/16/05, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
day. That is the sad reality.
Independence? From Whom? From
What?
From being told what to do -year
after year -from being threatenedthat if they feel and
thus celebrate their being independent, they would die.
So who is keeping the peoplefrom
being independent? And what kind of independence are they being
promised? - that youwill beindependentas long as you
will do whatI tell youto do, or else!
From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Namita Das [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ram
Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam
assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
Subject: Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:09:45 -0500
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Good to hear from you after a very long time
Namita.
But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather
constricted aperture.
There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see
at:
http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm
and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom
waits.
at:
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3
You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of
Independence
day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From
What?
c-da
At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote:
Feel terrible how the people of Assam are
deprived of celebrating their own I-day by a terrible group.
- Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM
Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
Some of the sentiments a number of us
have been expressing.
__
I -Day violence
Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and
Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no
exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region
including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a
call
to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an
apparent
move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even
went
to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the
Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the
number
of
militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is
coming down with every passing year with more and more militant
outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for
political solution of their problems and the possibility of the
ULFA
being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out.
Major
militant outfits of the North East region including both the
factions
of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India,
while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National
Democratic
Front
of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire
pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from
giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations.
The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence
Day
celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of
the
outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give
boycott
calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to
attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use
force
to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing
of
13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day
celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people
of
Assam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide public outcry
against such kind of mindless killing before issuing any threat to
the
people who decide to attend the Independence Day celebrations. The
ULFA should also realise the fact that any killing of innocent
people
will further alienate the outfit from the masses and so they
should
Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others may not agree with those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and guns to control public opinion is utterly shameless. *** I cannot refute your argument Ram. It demonstrates your own development as a highly evolved human being who holds freedom and independence -- albeit under the Indian banner-- in high esteem, and thus looks down upon such violent behavior as armed struggle with guns and bombs, willingly accepting death and maiming or imprisoned indefinitely; by those who seek to achieve their own freedoms, under a different banner. But I am not sure that sense of 'shame' is an absolute value. From all I have seen all my life, even right this moment as an American, where I came seeking the kind of freedoms I have found; it is a RELATIVE one, under the best of circumstances. On a different plane, but no less relevant, is the Indian intelligentsia's sense of shame in their own affairs, as demonstrated the corruption of the nation, something, even characters like KPS Gill waxes eloquent about on the pages of Outlook India.com, is nothing to write home about, to put it mildly. And that is merely in one facet of public life. In that I tend to give more credence to those who put their lives where their mouths are. And knowing your integrity, I like to believe you too would, if not today, some-day :-). c-da At 8:45 AM -0500 8/16/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, It is totally fine for ULFA or anyone else to have a different view of democracy, independence or whether or not to celebrate I-Day. What is galling is the threat the ULFA imposes on a people, who at least in their minds think they are free and DO want to celebrate I-Day. ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others may not agree with those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and guns to control public opinion is utterly shameless. And the ULFA that supposedly yearns for freedom is the very same one that wants to scuttle it for Assamese people who don't agree with its views. Who are they kidding? --Ram On 8/15/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good to hear from you after a very long time Namita. But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather constricted aperture. There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see at: http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom waits. at: http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3 You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of Independence day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From What? c-da At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote: Feel terrible how the people of Assam are deprived of celebrating their own I-day by a terrible group. - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial Some of the sentiments a number of us have been expressing. __ I -Day violence Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an apparent move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even went to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the number of militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is coming down with every passing year with more and more militant outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for political solution of their problems and the possibility of the ULFA being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out. Major militant outfits of the North East region including both the factions of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India, while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National Democratic Front of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence Day celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of the outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give boycott calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use force to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing of 13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people of
[Assam] News From NE Tribune/ On Desi Civilization
Jailed children living in most inhospitable condition: ULFA NET News Network Guwahati, Aug 15: The banned United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) today alleged that minimum diet required for all around development of a child has not been supplied by the Indian government to the jailed ULFA's children. In the latest edition of its mouthpiece Freedom the outfit informed that During the last 2 years 28 children of ULFA aged between 2- 10 have been kept behind bars in different jails of Asom and have been compelled to cope with the most inhospitable condition within the high walls the jail which is totally unsuitable for all round development of their mental and physical health. These children who were captured during the Indo-Bhutan joint military operation against ULFA in December 2003 have been deprived of minimum diet required for all around development of a child. Children devour anything when they are hungry. So like other prisoners, despite knowing the deficiency in nutrition of the diet, they have to eat what they are given, outfit alleged. Finally the outfit appealed to all the masses of Asom, conscious citizens, Human rights organizations, particularly to international organizations to take firm steps against such crimes against these children. Meanwhile, the outfit also condemned the tragic circumstances under which 12 years old girl Rukmini Kalindi belonging to the tea tribe community from Safrai Ganjupara village under Saraideo sub-division of Sivasagar district in Assam committed suicide after being raped. The victim committed suicide unable to bear the psychological and mental pressure during serial interrogation for long three days in Asom Police custody, alleged the mouthpiece. ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
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Re: [Assam] News From NE Tribune/ On Desi Civilization
These children who were captured during the Indo-Bhutan joint military operation against ULFA in December 2003 have been deprived of minimum diet required for all around development of a child. Children devour anything when they are hungry. This is indeed sad that children be caught in this strugle. But what about the Children of Demaji? Those that survived and thosethat were lost.The Ulfa children may be deprived of min. diet for all-rounddevelopment. Those children of Dhemaji never even had that chance. Here a item from the Telegraph today. What kind of answer does theUlfa have for the Saikias, who lost 2 of their young daughters thePaduns who lost sons.? Methinks, a lot of this amounts to one-sided indignations on the part of ULFA. *Issue Date: Monday, August 15, 2005Fear looms over freedom celebration- A year after blast killed 13 during parade, doubts remain oversecurity arrangementsRIPUNJOY DAS Dhemaji, Aug. 14: Fear has clouded freedom in Dhemaji. What if..? This is the question on everyone's lips a year after anUlfa-triggered blast during the Independence Day parade in this UpperAssam town left 13, including 10 schoolchildren, dead. Rupinath Narah, a student of Class IX at Arunudoi High School, wantsto attend the Independence Day function at the Court Field tomorrow,but his father is clearly hesitant about allowing his son to do so. At the residence of the Saikias in Ratanpur, 2 km from the town, themere mention of Independence Day revives memories of the tragedy thatbefell the family last year. We lost both our daughters and I do notwant to lose my sons. Who will guarantee that the same thing will nothappen this time? asks Lalita Saikia, who lost her daughters Rupa(14) and Aruna (10) in the blast at the Dhemaji College playground. In a corner of the two-bigha plot where the four surviving members ofthe Saikia family live is a memorial to the two girls. The familymakes sure that earthen lamps and incense sticks are lit there everyevening. Our daughters are still very much with us and will remain soforever, Lalita says, tears streaming down her cheeks. The nightmare continues not only for the Saikias, but every residentof this otherwise peaceful town. The administration is pulling out allstops to ensure that there is no untoward incident this time, but notmany are keen to a participate in the Independence Day function. Students of Arunudoi High School, who lost two schoolmates — JugantaPadun and Dinesh Padun — in the blast last year, look confused onbeing asked whether they want to be part of the celebrations. Moijam, jodi deutai diye (I will go, but only if my father allows me todo so), says Rupinath, a classmate of Juganta. Pronob Kardung is in a dilemma, too. I will if my father permits…, he says. The Kachari Ground, which was the venue for Independence Day andRepublic Day functions until waterlogging prompted the administrationto choose another place, has been relaid for this year's function. We have re-laid the field and we hope that the people will turn up ingood numbers. We are doing everything possible, said D.K. Baruah,deputy commissioner of Dhemaji, while monitoring the finishing touchesgiven to the preparations. Sentry posts have been built and register is maintained of each andevery individual who enters the ground. Even the deputy commissioneris not spared and during the nights the entire ground is lit up withfloodlights all around and backup generator sets. Police, too, had been very much active for the past few weeks. We have been guarding this venue for almost six months now and around20 policemen had been deployed for the purpose. We are very much onthe offensive, said superintendent of police, Mridulananda Sarmah. However, some in the society feel that the police arrangement wouldonly terrorise people more. Although the administration has its own way of working, this kind ofan arrangement will only drive them away. The police should act insuch a way that the common people are not harassed in the name ofsecurity, said Saishav Dutta, a social worker. On 8/16/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jailed children living in most inhospitable condition: ULFA NET News Network Guwahati, Aug 15: The banned United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) today alleged that minimum diet required for all around development of a child has not been supplied by the Indian government to the jailed ULFA's children. In the latest edition of its mouthpiece Freedom the outfit informed that During the last 2 years 28 children of ULFA aged between 2- 10 have been kept behind bars in different jails of Asom and have been compelled to cope with the most inhospitable condition within the high walls the jail which is totally unsuitable for all round development of their mental and physical health. These children who were captured during the Indo-Bhutan joint military operation against ULFA in December 2003 have
Re: [Assam] News From NE Tribune/ On Desi Civilization
But what about the Children of Demaji? Those that survived and those that were lost. The Ulfa children may be deprived of min. diet for all-round development. Those children of Dhemaji never even had that chance. Two gross wrongs don't make a right, or does it? Besides, if the 'peace-loving', 'civilized', 'democratic' and 'intelligent' people and their elected government act like the 'uncivilized', 'brainless'and 'undemocratic' insurgents that blew up the Dhemaji School children, where does it place the former? --- a lot of this amounts to one-sided indignations on the part of ULFA. *** I am sure there are many who think like that and respond accordingly. And in that, the bemoaning or the 'righteous' against the insurgents' strong-arm tactics ring rather hollow. At 10:12 AM -0500 8/16/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: These children who were captured during the Indo-Bhutan joint military operation against ULFA in December 2003 have been deprived of minimum diet required for all around development of a child. Children devour anything when they are hungry. This is indeed sad that children be caught in this strugle. But what about the Children of Demaji? Those that survived and those that were lost. The Ulfa children may be deprived of min. diet for all-round development. Those children of Dhemaji never even had that chance. Here a item from the Telegraph today. What kind of answer does the Ulfa have for the Saikias, who lost 2 of their young daughters the Paduns who lost sons.? Methinks, a lot of this amounts to one-sided indignations on the part of ULFA. * Issue Date: Monday, August 15, 2005 Fear looms over freedom celebration - A year after blast killed 13 during parade, doubts remain over security arrangements RIPUNJOY DAS Dhemaji, Aug. 14: Fear has clouded freedom in Dhemaji. What if..? This is the question on everyone's lips a year after an Ulfa-triggered blast during the Independence Day parade in this Upper Assam town left 13, including 10 schoolchildren, dead. Rupinath Narah, a student of Class IX at Arunudoi High School, wants to attend the Independence Day function at the Court Field tomorrow, but his father is clearly hesitant about allowing his son to do so. At the residence of the Saikias in Ratanpur, 2 km from the town, the mere mention of Independence Day revives memories of the tragedy that befell the family last year. We lost both our daughters and I do not want to lose my sons. Who will guarantee that the same thing will not happen this time? asks Lalita Saikia, who lost her daughters Rupa (14) and Aruna (10) in the blast at the Dhemaji College playground. In a corner of the two-bigha plot where the four surviving members of the Saikia family live is a memorial to the two girls. The family makes sure that earthen lamps and incense sticks are lit there every evening. Our daughters are still very much with us and will remain so forever, Lalita says, tears streaming down her cheeks. The nightmare continues not only for the Saikias, but every resident of this otherwise peaceful town. The administration is pulling out all stops to ensure that there is no untoward incident this time, but not many are keen to a participate in the Independence Day function. Students of Arunudoi High School, who lost two schoolmates - Juganta Padun and Dinesh Padun - in the blast last year, look confused on being asked whether they want to be part of the celebrations. Moi jam, jodi deutai diye (I will go, but only if my father allows me to do so), says Rupinath, a classmate of Juganta. Pronob Kardung is in a dilemma, too. I will if my father permits, he says. The Kachari Ground, which was the venue for Independence Day and Republic Day functions until waterlogging prompted the administration to choose another place, has been relaid for this year's function. We have re-laid the field and we hope that the people will turn up in good numbers. We are doing everything possible, said D.K. Baruah, deputy commissioner of Dhemaji, while monitoring the finishing touches given to the preparations. Sentry posts have been built and register is maintained of each and every individual who enters the ground. Even the deputy commissioner is not spared and during the nights the entire ground is lit up with floodlights all around and backup generator sets. Police, too, had been very much active for the past few weeks. We have been guarding this venue for almost six months now and around 20 policemen had been deployed for the purpose. We are very much on the offensive, said superintendent of police, Mridulananda Sarmah. However, some in the society feel that the police arrangement would only terrorise people more. Although the administration has its own way of working, this kind of an arrangement will only drive them away. The police should act in such a way that the common people are not harassed in the name of security, said Saishav Dutta, a social worker.
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Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of Independence day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From What? That is the funny part. All these questions from Cda. And yet, many many people DO WANT to celebrate the festivities. I assume those children of Dhemaji did. I believe those were/are NOT questions these people are bothered with. I do not wonder whether too many people are concerned about ULFA REJECTING independence day activities. They are concerned about the damned bombs the ULFA would place when THEY WANT to take part in the festivities. What would people do if it was not a terror threat the ULFA was giving but a call or a request (without any terror threat)? How many people would take heed and how many wouldn't? --- Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'da, It is totally fine for ULFA or anyone else to have a different view of democracy, independence or whether or not to celebrate I-Day. What is galling is the threat the ULFA imposes on a people, who at least in their minds think they are free and DO want to celebrate I-Day. ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others may not agree with those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and guns to control public opinion is utterly shameless. And the ULFA that supposedly yearns for freedom is the very same one that wants to scuttle it for Assamese people who don't agree with its views. Who are they kidding? --Ram On 8/15/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good to hear from you after a very long time Namita. But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather constricted aperture. There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see at: http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom waits. at: http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3 You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of Independence day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From What? c-da At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote: Feel terrible how the people of Assam are deprived of celebrating their own I-day by a terrible group. - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial Some of the sentiments a number of us have been expressing. __ I -Day violence Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an apparent move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even went to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the number of militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is coming down with every passing year with more and more militant outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for political solution of their problems and the possibility of the ULFA being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out. Major militant outfits of the North East region including both the factions of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India, while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National Democratic Front of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence Day celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of the outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give boycott calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use force to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing of 13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people of Assam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide public outcry against such kind of mindless killing before issuing any threat to the people who decide to attend the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA should also realise the fact that any killing of innocent people will further alienate the outfit from the masses and so they should desist from targeting innocent people to achieve their goals. The outfit should also realise that it would never be able to justify the killing of
Re: [Assam] News From NE Tribune/ On Desi Civilization
C'da, Two gross wrongs don't make a right, or does it? As Rajib says, this is distorted logic. Two wrongs don't make it right - absolutely. But here you have one case of the Ulfa children being deprived basicdiet for growth and developement. This can be termed as grossnegligence/apathy or even a crime. On the other hand, what Ulfa did to the Dhemaji children cannot bebrushed as a wrong. It was just pure wonton killing of innocentchildren. Finally the outfit appealed to all the masses of Asom, conscious citizens, Human rights organizations, particularly to international organizations to take firm steps against such crimes against these children. (from their Newsletter) Right!. What a bunch of crock. We didn't hear the ULFA appealing toIntl. Orgs. about the Dhemaji blasts nor did they appeal to theconscious citizens. C'da, whatever their garb, thugs will always remain thugs. Justbecause the 'diet case' involve children belonging to the ULFA, theyhave suddenly become conscious of human rights. What happened to theHR of so many inncoents killed and the children of Dhemaji. Whoappeals for their rights? Its definitely not the ULFA. On 8/16/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what about the Children of Demaji? Those that survived and those that were lost. The Ulfa children may be deprived of min. diet for all-round development. Those children of Dhemaji never even had that chance. Two gross wrongs don't make a right, or does it? Besides, if the 'peace-loving', 'civilized', 'democratic' and 'intelligent' people and their elected government act like the 'uncivilized', 'brainless'and 'undemocratic' insurgents that blew up the Dhemaji School children, where does it place the former? --- a lot of this amounts to one-sided indignations on the part of ULFA. *** I am sure there are many who think like that and respond accordingly. And in that, the bemoaning or the 'righteous' against the insurgents' strong-arm tactics ring rather hollow. At 10:12 AM -0500 8/16/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:These children who were captured during th! e Indo-Bhutan joint military operation against ULFA in December 2003 have been deprived of minimum diet required for all around development of a child. Children devour anything when they are hungry. This is indeed sad that children be caught in this strugle. But what about the Children of Demaji? Those that survived and those that were lost. The Ulfa children may be deprived of min. diet for all-round development. Those children of Dhemaji never even had that chance. Here a item from the Telegraph today. What kind of answer does the Ulfa have for the Saikias, who lost 2 of their young daughters the Paduns who lost sons.? Methinks, a lot of this amounts to one-sided indignations on the part of ULFA. * Issue Date: Monday, August 15, 2005 Fear looms over freedom celebration - A year after blast killed 13 during parade, doubts remain over security arrangements RIPUNJOY DAS Dhemaji, Aug. 14: Fear h! as clouded freedom in Dhemaji. What if..? This is the question on everyone's lips a year after an Ulfa-triggered blast during the Independence Day parade in this Upper Assam town left 13, including 10 schoolchildren, dead. Rupinath Narah, a student of Class IX at Arunudoi High School, wants to attend the Independence Day function at the Court Field tomorrow, but his father is clearly hesitant about allowing his son to do so. At the residence of the Saikias in Ratanpur, 2 km from the town, the mere mention of Independence Day revives memories of the tragedy that befell the family last year. We lost both our daughters and I do not want to lose my sons. Who will guarantee that the same thing will not happen this time? asks Lalita Saikia, who lost her daughters Rupa (14) and Aruna (10) in the blast at the Dhemaji College playground. In a corner of the two-bigha plot where the four surviving members of the Saikia family live is a memori! al to the two girls. The family makes sure that earthen lamps and incense sticks are lit there every evening. Our daughters are still very much with us and will remain so forever, Lalita says, tears streaming down her cheeks. The nightmare continues not only for the Saikias, but every resident of this otherwise peaceful town. The administration is pulling out all stops to ensure that there is no untoward incident this time, but not many are keen to a participate in the Independence Day function. Students of Arunudoi High School, who lost two schoolmates - Juganta Padun and Dinesh Padun - in the blast last year, look confused on being asked whether they want to be part of the celebrations. Moi jam, jodi deutai diye (I will go, but only if my father allows me to do so), says Rupinath, a classmate of Juganta. Pronob Kardung is in a dilemma, too. I will if my father permitsŠ, he says. The Kachari Ground, which was the
[Assam] Cons
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Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
I guess most people understands freedoms and ideas are relative. Those that don't are the ones willing to maim and kill if people don't accept their point of view. Like not going to Independence day celebrations. Thinking people make their choices, hold it up to reason and then change some when those choices turn against reason. Going by the logic presented on this post, when Osama Bin Laden and his cohorts blow up civilians and buildings, it is a fight for freedom. So is it when Daniel Pearl's head is cut off. And children in Beslan are held in a siege and then killed ruthlessly. Heck, even Hitler's mass murder of Jews was about creating a better Germany. But then we have to make our choices. Most thinking people would, in my opinion, make the choice AGAINST the idea of killing children just because they chose to celebrate Independence day. Even when, some who, like me, have not made a sacrifice of their life but are content posting opinions here opine that he is going to give credence to those giving their lives. The choice is between me or him, not me or ULFA or for that matter me or the Indian Army. The choice, in this case, is clear. --- Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others may not agree with those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and guns to control public opinion is utterly shameless. *** I cannot refute your argument Ram. It demonstrates your own development as a highly evolved human being who holds freedom and independence -- albeit under the Indian banner-- in high esteem, and thus looks down upon such violent behavior as armed struggle with guns and bombs, willingly accepting death and maiming or imprisoned indefinitely; by those who seek to achieve their own freedoms, under a different banner. But I am not sure that sense of 'shame' is an absolute value. From all I have seen all my life, even right this moment as an American, where I came seeking the kind of freedoms I have found; it is a RELATIVE one, under the best of circumstances. On a different plane, but no less relevant, is the Indian intelligentsia's sense of shame in their own affairs, as demonstrated the corruption of the nation, something, even characters like KPS Gill waxes eloquent about on the pages of Outlook India.com, is nothing to write home about, to put it mildly. And that is merely in one facet of public life. In that I tend to give more credence to those who put their lives where their mouths are. And knowing your integrity, I like to believe you too would, if not today, some-day :-). c-da At 8:45 AM -0500 8/16/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, It is totally fine for ULFA or anyone else to have a different view of democracy, independence or whether or not to celebrate I-Day. What is galling is the threat the ULFA imposes on a people, who at least in their minds think they are free and DO want to celebrate I-Day. ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others may not agree with those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and guns to control public opinion is utterly shameless. And the ULFA that supposedly yearns for freedom is the very same one that wants to scuttle it for Assamese people who don't agree with its views. Who are they kidding? --Ram On 8/15/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good to hear from you after a very long time Namita. But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather constricted aperture. There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see at: http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom waits. at: http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3 You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of Independence day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From What? c-da At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote: Feel terrible how the people of Assam are deprived of celebrating their own I-day by a terrible group. - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial Some of the sentiments a number of us have been expressing. __ I -Day violence Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an apparent move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even went to the extent of claiming that it would attack the
[Assam] US school laptops stampede
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/16/computer.frenzy.ap/index.html just this Sunday I was in this area. Should have gone today. Umesh How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
[Assam] NYTimes.com: No Emotion Left Behind
Title: E-Mail This This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from sender: >From the recent news of students dying in school premises in Asam and elsewhere through fighting or by teacher's beating -- this could be important Umesh OPINION | August 16, 2005 Op-Ed Contributor: No Emotion Left Behind By TIMOTHY P. SHRIVER and ROGER P. WEISSBERG Promoting students social and emotional skills plays a critical role in improving their academic performance. 1. Being a Patient: In the Hospital, a Degrading Shift From Person to Patient 2. Have You Heard? Gossip Turns Out to Serve a Purpose 3. Op-Ed Columnist: Someone Tell the President the War Is Over 4. Playing Against Type, Entourage Grows Nuances 5. Philadelphia Story: The Next Borough Go to Complete List Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company | Privacy Policy ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
[Assam] Snehalaya Day/From the Sentinel
Snehalaya Day: kids live up to occasion By a Staff Reporter GUWAHATI, Aug 16: They came in their new uniforms, performed to the best of their ability and made the spectators feel a moistness in their hearts and eyes. The children of Snehalaya kept a full house at the Don Bosco School auditorium spellbound for more than two hours with their spontaneous and graceful presentations on the occasion of the fifth anniversary of the Snehalaya institution today. This function, which coincided with the birthday of John Bosco, the great educator saint of the 19th century who founded the Don Bosco Society, was graced by several dignitaries, including Rev. Thomas Menamparapil, Archbishop of Ghy, Dr Nagen Saikia, former Xahitya Xabha president and editor of Amar Asom and Harekrishna Deka, editor of The Sentinel. Phulore Melate- this much loved song came alive on the stage as the children of Jyoti Snehalaya, one of the shelter homes for the destitute children, performed graceful movements making all the images of the song come to life. The audience felt the energizing power of rhythm and colours when children of Ila Snehalaya and Betkuchi, draped in traditional Bodo attire performed a dance number. Several performances followed suit on the same line of spontaneity and perfection, but the show stealer was a half-hour duration documentary film on Snehalaya by Dheeraj Akolkar. This film titled Jyotirgamaya, which highlighted the dark and seamy side of life encountered by vagrant children and their deliverance from the sordidness of life, could move the audience and make them feel a lump in their throat. With soul touching music rendered by Tarali Sarma, this documentary was successful in fulfilling its objective i.e to arouse concern among all the viewers about the children who are deprived of life and security. Speaking on the occasion, Father Lukose, director, Snehalaya, said that the search for God ultimately leads to children, as they are His most precious gift to humanity. ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: Fwd: [Assam] email id
Hello everybody! Myself - Muktikam Phukan. New to the group. Working on deputation to PCRA from OIL for last two half years posted at Delhi. Hope to inteact proactively with all of you. Regards M.PhukanBabul Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded message --From: Vishal Betala [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Aug 16, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] email idTo: Babul Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi everbody, i'm Vishal Betala.from Guwahati. Presently pursuing MBA from ICFAI in HYderabad. Completed my engg From JORHAT ENGG COLLEGE. bye and keep in touch vishal Babul Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vishal, Welcome to the AssamNet ! Would you like to tell us more about yourself? Regards, Babul Gogoi On 8/15/05, Vishal Betala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my email id [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam -- Babul Gogoihttp://www.bihu.in ___ Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page -- Babul Gogoihttp://www.bihu.in ___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
[Assam] i'll be in SC, Greenville
Hi All, I'll be in Greenville for a couple of months startting on 21-Aug-05. Is there any assamese living in that area ? I'll glad to meet them. Hope to see you guys soon. Nripen Gogoi__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
[Assam] On the Lighter Side: Top 21 things an Indian does after returning from US
21. Tries to use credit card in road side hotel. 20. Drinks and carries mineral water and always speaks of health conscious. 19. Sprays duo such so that he doesn't need to take bath. 18. Sneezes and says 'Excuse me'. 17. Says Hey instead of Hi. says Yogurt instead says Curds. Says Cab instead of Taxi. Says Candy instead of Chocolate. Says Cookie instead of Biscuit. Says Free Way instead of Highway. Says got to go instead of Have to go. Says Oh instead of Zero, (for 704, says Seven Oh Four Instead of Seven Zero Four) 16. Doesn't forget to crib about air pollution. Keeps cribbing every t ime he steps out. 15. Says all the distances in Miles (Not in Kilo Meters), and counts in Millions. (Not in Lakhs) 14. Tries to figure all the prices in Dollars as far as possible (but deep down the heart multiplies by 43 times). 13. Tries to see the % of fat on the cover of a milk pocket. 12. When need to say Z (zed), never says Z (Zed), repeats Zee several times, if the other person unable to get, then says X, Y Zee(but never says Zed) 11. Writes date as MM/DD/, on watching traditional DD/MM/, says Oh! British Style 10. Makes fun of Indian Standard Time and Indian Road Conditions. 9. Even after 2 months, complaints about Jet Lag. 8. Avoids eating more chili (hot) stuff. 7. Tries to drink Diet Coke, instead of Normal Coke. 6. Tries to complain about any thing in India as if he is experiencing it for the first time. 5. Pronounces schedule as skejule, and module as Mojule. 4. Looks speciously towards Hotel/Dhaba food. Few more important 3. From the luggage bag, does not remove the stickers of Airways by which he traveled back to India, even after 4 months of arrival. 2. Takes the cabin luggage bag to short visits in India, tries to roll the bag on Indian Roads. Ultimate one 1. Tries to begin conversation withIn US or When I was in US... _ Looking for the right job? http://creative.mediaturf.net/creatives/timesjobs/hotmail_TOL.htm Log on to timesjobs.com and apply TODAY! ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
