[asom] On preservation of endangered Kamrupi
Hi all again! My observations are based on my interaction with my Lower Assam friends who studied with me in Cotton; and later on from my relations through marriage. Every little bit of human diversity should be respected and preserved; thats what makes human civilization more colorful. But no shit slinging there..plz.. Regards! -Manoj On 12/18/08, deka deka...@gmail.com wrote: Friends, correct me if I am wrong :- It would be wise to discuss on preservation of endangered Kamrupi (both language as well as culture/tradition) as a separate thread. Rabin From: Bijoy Kumar Pait bkp...@hpcl.co.in Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:13 PM Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Nevertheless, when it comes to preserving a particular language, every effort must be made by the intellectuals. regards Pait From: Surajit Jaradhara nipun...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:13 PM Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com I definitely do not find this is an interesting topic at all to discuss,and was trying very hard not to comment on this. But then, since this has now started to trickle down a few emotional, nostalgic sentiments so I would like to express whatever this lesser mortal/ obhajan can think of. Entire part of my childhood was centered around Guwahati and the nearby towns ( now they are towns) memories are drawn from there. During the Durga Puja festival and other festivals, the Ojha Pali was performed with great ease by people coming from many areas surrounding Guwahati , even from Mangaldoi. They performed various ttypes of Ojha Palis ( Byas Ojha, Sukannani Ojha etc). Interested ones can procure the book on the subject written by Sh. Nabin Sharma. The performance was done in complete coherence with the local dialect. Ojha pali is also performed in some sattras in Assam as per the expressive dialect. There are also different forms of Dhulias, Nagara ( nagra) naam, tokari geet etc. which display a diverse range of performances, apart from the BIHU or other harvest related festivals. Now we know that these performances are becoming lesser and lesser or one can say not taken seriously by younger generation. Well there also exist very popular personalities performing Naam with large orchestration of taal and khol in the same areas in question, where it is feared the language is dying. According to me it is not dying. The customary performances are being taken care of seriously. The situation is not only prevailing in one area ,which is under question, but true for all over Assam for various performing arts. Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury( it may be roy choudhury as well), whenever he met people, used to say Dekh khan ggel ai, Kiba ata kor. I did chanced upon to flip through an assamese new daily where one lady writer ( i could not remember her name) did seem to write bisshwayanar dhamkhumiyat pothobrosto,dikbidikshonyo huwa asomiya somaj ( well the defition of asomiya- I dont want to get into this anyway) ketiya nijoke sombhalibo paribo! There seem to be many writting in this blog site, and yes people/members spread across world might also be reading all the posts and not trying to comment. It is known. Well, all of us who has the luxury of having access to internet and having the capacity to instantly work out some cerebral action to type out few words, obviously due to the unbroilical connection to the land - do finally seem to be a school of highly brained ...whatever. Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury must have written today, if he came visiting moran noha gila khane eko korba nollak, bhaonat ...oops ...Internetot bohi bhimor boson maitsi --- buli ek brihot karjya etat nijoke niyok Korise. Some one might even say Hait, bhimor boson motato iman sohoj kam buli bhabiso neki toi. Aho Sobhasod jono, Aho guni jono, toharo mohima oparo. Bujibi lage Kiba , Bujili kiba. Obviously Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury, a revered personality like him didnot say Amar ai onchalto gel ai With warm regards. SJ From: Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:42 AM Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Interesting topic. I am a Kamrupi from my father's side. The surname Deka says it all. The reason for this language dying is the stigma associated with speaking it in front of people who speak the upper Assamese dialects. I do not speak it cause my mom does not speak it and deuta doesn't speak it unless he is angry!! But yeah, I was ridiculed as a Dhekeri many times in school (cause of my surname). Also I remember from my friends' stories how speaking Kamrupi could have had a catastrophic impact on your dating life. I don't know how we can get rid of this taboo on the Kamrupi language in Assam.
[asom] Future of Assamese languauge
Hi, � It's not very far that we will be endangered until we stop fighting among ourselves, may be among various tribes, may be among Ahom - Kalita-Kosari, may be Bodo-Assamese, may be Kamrupi-written Assamese, etc. � This is what a news in Assam tribune says: � If you were in doubt whether Assamese-speaking people have increased or already lost majority in the State. The answer is: Assamese speaking has registered a growth of 0.40 per cent. Clearing the air to dispel the apprehension that Assamese people have become minority in their own State, Centre today clarified that there has been no decline in the Assamese speaking population in the country during 1991-2001. � You may want to see the deatils here http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=dec1708/at09. Thanks and Regards, Abhijit Borah Visit my Hometown at www.onlinesivasagar.com�
[asom] On preservation of endangered Kamrupi
Hi, This is really excellent idea. Something very very essential for all of us to preserve our heritage. Probably some professional can document them in later stage. Infact, we can have similar discussions for all other endangered traditions without hurting others feelings. Thanks and regards Mrinal Singh Raja http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4715 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:assamonline-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:assamonline-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: assamonline-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[asom] On preservation of endangered Kamrupi
Well, At least something constructive might come out of it. I do agree. We dont want to see this as a critical political forum either. Regards. SJ --- On Thu, 12/18/08, deka deka...@gmail.com wrote: From: deka deka...@gmail.com Subject: [asom] On preservation of endangered Kamrupi To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Cc: northeastindia-ow...@yahoogroups.com, northeastin...@yahoogroups.com, dipgo...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 6:05 AM Friends, correct me if I am wrong :- It would be wise to discuss on preservation of endangered Kamrupi (both language as well as culture/tradition) as a separate thread. Rabin _ _ __ From: Bijoy Kumar Pait bkp...@hpcl. co.in Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:13 PM Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@ yahoogroups. com Nevertheless, when it comes to preserving a particular language, every effort must be made by the intellectuals. regards Pait _ _ __ From: Surajit Jaradhara nipun...@yahoo. com Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:13 PM Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@ yahoogroups. com I definitely do not find this is an interesting topic at all to discuss,and was trying very hard not to comment on this. But then, since this has now started to trickle down a few emotional, nostalgic sentiments so I would like to express whatever this lesser mortal/ obhajan can think of. Entire part of my childhood was centered around Guwahati and the nearby towns ( now they are towns) memories are drawn from there. During the Durga Puja festival and other festivals, the Ojha Pali was performed with great ease by people coming from many areas surrounding Guwahati , even from Mangaldoi. They performed various ttypes of Ojha Palis ( Byas Ojha, Sukannani Ojha etc). Interested ones can procure the book on the subject written by Sh. Nabin Sharma. The performance was done in complete coherence with the local dialect. Ojha pali is also performed in some sattras in Assam as per the expressive dialect. There are also different forms of Dhulias, Nagara ( nagra) naam, tokari geet etc. which display a diverse range of performances, apart from the BIHU or other harvest related festivals. Now we know that these performances are becoming lesser and lesser or one can say not taken seriously by younger generation. Well there also exist very popular personalities performing Naam with large orchestration of taal and khol in the same areas in question, where it is feared the language is dying. According to me it is not dying. The customary performances are being taken care of seriously. The situation is not only prevailing in one area ,which is under question, but true for all over Assam for various performing arts. Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury( it may be roy choudhury as well), whenever he met people, used to say Dekh khan ggel ai, Kiba ata kor. I did chanced upon to flip through an assamese new daily where one lady writer ( i could not remember her name) did seem to write bisshwayanar dhamkhumiyat pothobrosto, dikbidikshonyo huwa asomiya somaj ( well the defition of asomiya- I dont want to get into this anyway) ketiya nijoke sombhalibo paribo! There seem to be many writting in this blog site, and yes people/members spread across world might also be reading all the posts and not trying to comment. It is known. Well, all of us who has the luxury of having access to internet and having the capacity to instantly work out some cerebral action to type out few words, obviously due to the unbroilical connection to the land - do finally seem to be a school of highly brained ...whatever. Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury must have written today, if he came visiting moran noha gila khane eko korba nollak, bhaonat ...oops ...Internetot bohi bhimor boson maitsi --- buli ek brihot karjya etat nijoke niyok Korise. Some one might even say Hait, bhimor boson motato iman sohoj kam buli bhabiso neki toi. Aho Sobhasod jono, Aho guni jono, toharo mohima oparo. Bujibi lage Kiba , Bujili kiba. Obviously Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury, a revered personality like him didnot say Amar ai onchalto gel ai.. .. With warm regards. SJ _ _ __ From: Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo. com Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:42 AM Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@ yahoogroups. com Interesting topic. I am a Kamrupi from my father's side. The surname Deka says it all. The reason for this language dying is the stigma associated with speaking it in front of people who speak the upper Assamese dialects. I do not speak it cause my mom does not speak it and deuta doesn't speak it unless he is angry!! But yeah, I was ridiculed as a Dhekeri many times in school (cause of my surname). Also I remember from my friends' stories how speaking Kamrupi could have had a catastrophic impact on your dating life. I don't know
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
Dangorias- can we please discuss other critical issues and ideas like introduction of inneline permits in Assam? Aren't we all Assamese who are invaded by Bangladeshis? On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo.com wrote: SJ, don't mind but the email below is out of context. We are not talking about performing arts. We are talking about the local dialect which is the Kamrupi language. Is it going to die out? At least in Guwahati, the younger generation is trying not to speak because of the Dhekeri stigma. Probably, this feeling will spread to the lower Assam districts as well. How then we preserve this dialect? Maybe someone should write a book in that dialect. Or someone should start publishing a newspaper? Someone who wants to preserve his/her Kamrupi identity should do it. Remember, languages thrive on constant output of literature. As for me, I am happy with my Assamese identity. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4717 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:assamonline-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:assamonline-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: assamonline-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
