[Asterisk-Users] ATA's and faxing

2006-02-07 Thread Garth van Sittert

Hi All

Is there any special configuration needed to send and receive faxes on 
an ATA device?
I am using G711.a with a Grandstream Handytone 486.  I can send faxes 
from a fax machine on the ATA, but receiving doesn't work.  I get the 
fax signal, but it just doesn't continue.  The LAN is used purely for 
VoIP traffic.


Garth

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's and faxing

2006-02-07 Thread Johann Steinwendtner

Enable pass thru fax mode on the HT486, or enable ulaw in your SIP config.

Hans

Garth van Sittert schrieb:

Hi All

Is there any special configuration needed to send and receive faxes on 
an ATA device?
I am using G711.a with a Grandstream Handytone 486.  I can send faxes 
from a fax machine on the ATA, but receiving doesn't work.  I get the 
fax signal, but it just doesn't continue.  The LAN is used purely for 
VoIP traffic.


Garth



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's and faxing

2006-02-07 Thread Garth van Sittert
I am using alaw and I have already enabled the pass through.  Does alaw 
and ulaw work?

I can fax out, but not receive faxes.

Garth



Johann Steinwendtner wrote:
Enable pass thru fax mode on the HT486, or enable ulaw in your SIP 
config.


Hans

Garth van Sittert schrieb:

Hi All

Is there any special configuration needed to send and receive faxes 
on an ATA device?
I am using G711.a with a Grandstream Handytone 486.  I can send faxes 
from a fax machine on the ATA, but receiving doesn't work.  I get the 
fax signal, but it just doesn't continue.  The LAN is used purely for 
VoIP traffic.


Garth



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's and faxing

2006-02-07 Thread Kib Eki

Garth,

this is my sip-configuration for a fax machine at a AT386
; SIP Accounts Analog devices like Faxmachines
[analogdefaults](!)
 type=friend
 host=dynamic
 dtmfmode=info
 disallow=all
 allow=gsm
 allow=alaw
 allow=ulaw
[222](analogdefaults)
 context=sip-ol
 callerid=Fax 222
 username=222
 secret=123
;

The ATA adapter itself is configured as follows:
Fax Mode: (x) T.38 (Auto Detect)Pass-Through

so, I don't even have configured Pass-Through

Bernd

Garth van Sittert wrote:
I am using alaw and I have already enabled the pass through.  Does alaw 
and ulaw work?

I can fax out, but not receive faxes.

Garth



Johann Steinwendtner wrote:
Enable pass thru fax mode on the HT486, or enable ulaw in your SIP 
config.


Hans

Garth van Sittert schrieb:

Hi All

Is there any special configuration needed to send and receive faxes 
on an ATA device?
I am using G711.a with a Grandstream Handytone 486.  I can send faxes 
from a fax machine on the ATA, but receiving doesn't work.  I get the 
fax signal, but it just doesn't continue.  The LAN is used purely for 
VoIP traffic.


Garth



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's and faxing

2006-02-07 Thread Johann Steinwendtner

ulaw was neccessary when pass through was disabled. What does a sip
debug tell you ?

Hans

Garth van Sittert schrieb:
I am using alaw and I have already enabled the pass through.  Does alaw 
and ulaw work?

I can fax out, but not receive faxes.

Garth



Johann Steinwendtner wrote:

Enable pass thru fax mode on the HT486, or enable ulaw in your SIP 
config.


Hans

Garth van Sittert schrieb:


Hi All

Is there any special configuration needed to send and receive faxes 
on an ATA device?
I am using G711.a with a Grandstream Handytone 486.  I can send faxes 
from a fax machine on the ATA, but receiving doesn't work.  I get the 
fax signal, but it just doesn't continue.  The LAN is used purely for 
VoIP traffic.


Garth




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[Asterisk-Users] ATA's ???

2006-01-27 Thread phil . dawson

Hi,

I'm currently in the process of building
Asterisk for our new office and have hit a snag. We need two internal
Analog lines for a modem and fax machine. Am I right in thinking
I can use two ATA's, one on each piece of equipment which will then talk
to Asterisk and route via our ISDN30?

If the above is corrent could you recommend
a good model?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's ???

2006-01-27 Thread Giorgio Incantalupo

Hi Phil,
if you want to use ATAs take a look at grandstream site...they are 
better than digium but you could use a card, TDM400 is excellent for 
analog lines and devices.


Giorgio Incantalupo


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Hi,

I'm currently in the process of building Asterisk for our new office 
and have hit a snag.  We need two internal Analog lines for a modem 
and fax machine.  Am I right in thinking I can use two ATA's, one on 
each piece of equipment which will then talk to Asterisk and route via 
our ISDN30?


If the above is corrent could you recommend a good model?

Thanks in advance.


Phil.



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's ???

2006-01-27 Thread John Daragon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I'm currently in the process of building Asterisk for our new office and 
have hit a snag.  We need two internal Analog lines for a modem and fax 
machine.  Am I right in thinking I can use two ATA's, one on each piece 
of equipment which will then talk to Asterisk and route via our ISDN30?


If the above is corrent could you recommend a good model?


Yes, that should work fine - I have a fax machine here connected to a 
Grandstream Handytone ATA-286 which (with recent firmware) performs 
faultlessly using G.711 aLaw.  I'm not sure how well it will support 
higer speed modems, though...


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's ???

2006-01-27 Thread Joash Herbrink








Phil



I have very good experience
with the vegasteam ATAs devices.(you might also want to look @ sipura
ATAs, since vegastream is doing an oem on there boxes)

They support modem until
v.90 speeds and faxes for g3.



They are expensive, and
again, work great and configure very easy



joash















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Hi, 

I'm
currently in the process of building Asterisk for our new office and have hit a
snag. We need two internal Analog lines for a modem and fax machine. Am
I right in thinking I can use two ATA's, one on each piece of equipment which
will then talk to Asterisk and route via our ISDN30? 

If
the above is corrent could you recommend a good model? 

Thanks
in advance. 


Phil.







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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-17 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk

[...] In the meantime, get a Sipura 2100, supports 2 729 calls and
has both WAN/LAN ports.
I was told that the Uniden DTA200 also supports 2 g729 calls. I'm 
buying one to test. Street price around US$ 90.
Another one with dual g729 channels is MTA V102. Street price US$ 100. 
Also will test this one.

I'm still looking for other units with dual g729 channels...
yoda.com.tw has single, dual and quad channel ATAs, and AFAIK they 
support all channel codecs individually.

roy
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-16 Thread Shaun Ewing
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:08:08 +0800, Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 See my comments in line

 From my experience, the ATA is a very solid, dependable piece of
 hardware. I was told by a source in the company that OEMs for Cisco, the
 units are expensive because of the high quality parts being used. The
 web config looks crappy but otherwise where else do you find a $100
 device that does SCCP/MGCP/SIP/H323? None of the competitors even come
 close to that level of protocol support. For developers who have to work
 on various protocols, the ATA is really cool.

I agree.

I'm using the ATA 186 and think it's great. The latest firmware also
changes the web interface - it's similar to the 7905G/7912G phones
now.

I've also tried the Sipura SPA-2000, but had some problems with it, so
the Cisco ATA is my ATA of choice now.

-Shaun
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-16 Thread David Uzzell
Shaun Ewing wrote:
I'm using the ATA 186 and think it's great. The latest firmware also
changes the web interface - it's similar to the 7905G/7912G phones
now.

Did you have much trouble getting the ATA 186 working?
I have one running Version: v3.1.0 atasip (Build 040211A)
I have it setup and it does poll the * server but does not work to use 
and errors in sip.

Followed the instructions on the wiki page for them and it still wants 
to be a pain :(

Other problem is that it is in Denmark and I am in AUS :) so timming is 
an issue.

Any advice would be appreciated.
David Uzzell
This is the sip debug from * end.
Sip read:
REGISTER sip:203.29.98.221 SIP/2.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 62.79.110.156:5060
From: Test901 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];user=phone;tag=4212316678
To: Test901 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];user=phone
Call-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CSeq: 1 REGISTER
Contact: Test901 
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5060;user=phone;transport=udp;expires=120
User-Agent: Cisco ATA 186  v3.1.0 atasip (040211A)
Content-Length: 0

9 headers, 0 lines
Using latest request as basis request
Sending to 62.79.110.156 : 5060 (NAT)
Transmitting (NAT):
SIP/2.0 100 Trying
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 62.79.110.156:5060;received=62.79.110.156;rport=5060
From: Test901 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];user=phone;tag=4212316678
To: Test901 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];user=phone;tag=as560861ed
Call-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CSeq: 1 REGISTER
User-Agent: Asterisk PBX
Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, OPTIONS, BYE, REFER
Contact: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Length: 0
 to 62.79.110.156:5060
Transmitting (NAT):
SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 62.79.110.156:5060;received=62.79.110.156;rport=5060
From: Test901 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];user=phone;tag=4212316678
To: Test901 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];user=phone;tag=as560861ed
Call-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CSeq: 1 REGISTER
User-Agent: Asterisk PBX
Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, OPTIONS, BYE, REFER
Contact: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW-Authenticate: Digest realm=pbx.unifiedau.net, nonce=4a523e7e
Content-Length: 0
 to 62.79.110.156:5060
Scheduling destruction of call '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' in 15000 ms
Destroying call '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-16 Thread Leo Ann Boon

David Uzzell wrote:
Shaun Ewing wrote:
I'm using the ATA 186 and think it's great. The latest firmware also
changes the web interface - it's similar to the 7905G/7912G phones
now.

Did you have much trouble getting the ATA 186 working?
No.
I have one running Version: v3.1.0 atasip (Build 040211A)
I'm using Version: v3.0.0 atasip (Build 031210A).
I have it setup and it does poll the * server but does not work to use 
and errors in sip.

Followed the instructions on the wiki page for them and it still wants 
to be a pain :(

Other problem is that it is in Denmark and I am in AUS :) so timming 
is an issue.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Looks like you have a NAT problem. You need to be more specific about 
your NAT setup.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-16 Thread Mark Eissler
On Feb 15, 2005, at 6:08 PM, Leo Ann Boon wrote:
From my experience, the ATA is a very solid, dependable piece of 
hardware. I was told by a source in the company that OEMs for Cisco, 
the units are expensive because of the high quality parts being used. 
The web config looks crappy but otherwise where else do you find a 
$100 device that does SCCP/MGCP/SIP/H323? None of the competitors even 
come close to that level of protocol support. For developers who have 
to work on various protocols, the ATA is really cool.
Guess I never really looked at it that way. Perhaps when if I cancel my 
Vonage account I'll just hang on to the ATA [he casually comments as 
the collection of VOIP adapters steadily grows in the basement...].

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-15 Thread Voip Business
hello, my experience

1.-Azatel Azacall 200 GREAT PIECE OF HARDWARE
2.- MTA-V102
3.- Sipura spa 2000
4.- Granstream


ATA186 SUXs


Excuse me I have just bought a PAP2 ,, is it true that only one g729,
one of the Damn things Cisco had in the ATA186? at the same time.

DAMN , its just a Sipura inside I really dont know why is this, offer
a 1 port version or a optional second port g729 is really a pain this.

regards


HA



On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:52:21 +0100, Nicolas Bougues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 10:47:23PM +0900, Hermann Wecke wrote:
  Matthew Boehm wrote:
  [...] In the meantime, get a Sipura 2100, supports 2 729 calls and
  has both WAN/LAN ports.
 
  I was told that the Uniden DTA200 also supports 2 g729 calls. I'm buying
  one to test. Street price around US$ 90.
  Another one with dual g729 channels is MTA V102. Street price US$ 100.
  Also will test this one.
 
  I'm still looking for other units with dual g729 channels...
 
 
 Back in december, the Uniden was supposed to do 2xG729 at a later
 time. Not sure if the current firmware allows it.
 
 BTW, I've been fairly disappointed with Uniden firmware and their
 release cycle : their hardware is great, but they take months to
 release new firmwares, even when phone crashing bugs are
 discovered.
 
 If you want 2xG.729 now, working reliably, for under $90, you can't go
 wrong withe the SPA-2100. The only thing the SPA-2100 (still) lacks is
 a bridge mode, where the LAN and WAN ports would act just like a
 switch, so that you can easily chain devices without routing/NAT. Just
 like most IP phones do.
 
 --
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-15 Thread Mark Eissler
On Feb 15, 2005, at 3:17 AM, Voip Business wrote:
hello, my experience
1.-Azatel Azacall 200 GREAT PIECE OF HARDWARE
2.- MTA-V102
3.- Sipura spa 2000
4.- Granstream
ATA186 SUXs
I can't speak so fondly of the Azatel which I had sitting around after 
a canceling a VOIP service. Maybe I just need a new firmware rev (but 
they don't exactly make those available at the Azatel site). Plus, the 
web interface is excruciatingly limited. I mean, you can't even 
configure echo cancellation.

I think the ATA186-L2 is kind of pointless at this stage. It's old 
hardware...although Cisco did end up issuing a firmware update last 
year. Still, there's got to be some reason why Cisco as switched to 
using a Sipura produce (the PAP2)BTW the ATA186 was designed by 
some of the Sipura folks as well.

My choice is still Sipura-branded equipment. There's no way of knowing 
how often firmware will be released for the Linksys-branded stuff or 
what level of support there will be.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-15 Thread Erick Perez
what about the digium S100i, haven't used but any comments?
i know it's only one fxs one lan port does g711 also. no g729.



On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:29:35 -0500, Mark Eissler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Feb 15, 2005, at 3:17 AM, Voip Business wrote:
 
  hello, my experience
 
  1.-Azatel Azacall 200 GREAT PIECE OF HARDWARE
  2.- MTA-V102
  3.- Sipura spa 2000
  4.- Granstream
 
 
  ATA186 SUXs
 
 I can't speak so fondly of the Azatel which I had sitting around after
 a canceling a VOIP service. Maybe I just need a new firmware rev (but
 they don't exactly make those available at the Azatel site). Plus, the
 web interface is excruciatingly limited. I mean, you can't even
 configure echo cancellation.
 
 I think the ATA186-L2 is kind of pointless at this stage. It's old
 hardware...although Cisco did end up issuing a firmware update last
 year. Still, there's got to be some reason why Cisco as switched to
 using a Sipura produce (the PAP2)BTW the ATA186 was designed by
 some of the Sipura folks as well.
 
 My choice is still Sipura-branded equipment. There's no way of knowing
 how often firmware will be released for the Linksys-branded stuff or
 what level of support there will be.
 
 -mark
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-15 Thread Jay Milk
Every member of this list is deeply indebted to Digium for making
Asterisk freely available.  However, do quick search of this list for
IAXy, and you'll probably run the other way from this little device.
It *appears* to be very immature.

 -Original Message-
 From: Erick Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:30 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's
 
 
 what about the digium S100i, haven't used but any comments?
 i know it's only one fxs one lan port does g711 also. no g729.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-15 Thread Matthew Boehm
 wrong withe the SPA-2100. The only thing the SPA-2100 (still) lacks is
 a bridge mode, where the LAN and WAN ports would act just like a
 switch, so that you can easily chain devices without routing/NAT. Just
 like most IP phones do.

So what happens if you try and chain a bunch of SPA-2100s? Does the 2100
act more like a router?

-Matthew

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-15 Thread Dana Olson
There are tons of comments about the S100i, or IAXy, as it's called.
Can't say I like it myself, we have 3 of them right now, and they get
really hot and for some reason don't have the MAC address labeled on
them, and also we couldn't get them to actually take an IP from a
Microsoft DHCP server (worked fine with Linux/Linksys). Also, the IAXy
provisioning is annoying. But this is just my thoughts based on my
experience.
--
Dana


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:29:42 -0500, Erick Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what about the digium S100i, haven't used but any comments?
 i know it's only one fxs one lan port does g711 also. no g729.
 
 
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:29:35 -0500, Mark Eissler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Feb 15, 2005, at 3:17 AM, Voip Business wrote:
 
   hello, my experience
  
   1.-Azatel Azacall 200 GREAT PIECE OF HARDWARE
   2.- MTA-V102
   3.- Sipura spa 2000
   4.- Granstream
  
  
   ATA186 SUXs
 
  I can't speak so fondly of the Azatel which I had sitting around after
  a canceling a VOIP service. Maybe I just need a new firmware rev (but
  they don't exactly make those available at the Azatel site). Plus, the
  web interface is excruciatingly limited. I mean, you can't even
  configure echo cancellation.
 
  I think the ATA186-L2 is kind of pointless at this stage. It's old
  hardware...although Cisco did end up issuing a firmware update last
  year. Still, there's got to be some reason why Cisco as switched to
  using a Sipura produce (the PAP2)BTW the ATA186 was designed by
  some of the Sipura folks as well.
 
  My choice is still Sipura-branded equipment. There's no way of knowing
  how often firmware will be released for the Linksys-branded stuff or
  what level of support there will be.
 
  -mark
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-15 Thread Leo Ann Boon
See my comments in line
Mark Eissler wrote:
On Feb 15, 2005, at 3:17 AM, Voip Business wrote:
hello, my experience
1.-Azatel Azacall 200 GREAT PIECE OF HARDWARE
2.- MTA-V102
3.- Sipura spa 2000
4.- Granstream
ATA186 SUXs

I can't speak so fondly of the Azatel which I had sitting around after 
a canceling a VOIP service. Maybe I just need a new firmware rev (but 
they don't exactly make those available at the Azatel site). Plus, the 
web interface is excruciatingly limited. I mean, you can't even 
configure echo cancellation.

I think the ATA186-L2 is kind of pointless at this stage. It's old 
hardware...although Cisco did end up issuing a firmware update last 
year. Still, there's got to be some reason why Cisco as switched to 
using a Sipura produce (the PAP2)BTW the ATA186 was designed by 
some of the Sipura folks as well.
From my experience, the ATA is a very solid, dependable piece of 
hardware. I was told by a source in the company that OEMs for Cisco, the 
units are expensive because of the high quality parts being used. The 
web config looks crappy but otherwise where else do you find a $100 
device that does SCCP/MGCP/SIP/H323? None of the competitors even come 
close to that level of protocol support. For developers who have to work 
on various protocols, the ATA is really cool.

And, the ATA is relatively easily to port forward on the firewall. Just 
1 SIP + 8 RTP ports, compared to the recommended 2 SIP + 1 (ten 
thousand) RTP ports  + 2 misc ports for the Sipura.

Documentation for the ATA is really good - the usual Cisco standards. 
Most of the competitors ship with simple manuals that come nowhere close.

My choice is still Sipura-branded equipment. There's no way of knowing 
how often firmware will be released for the Linksys-branded stuff or 
what level of support there will be.
I have an SPA3000. The configuration is very comprehensive but the 
documentation (the 90+ page version) is not as well written as the ATA.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-15 Thread Nicolas Bougues
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 01:40:24PM -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
  wrong withe the SPA-2100. The only thing the SPA-2100 (still) lacks is
  a bridge mode, where the LAN and WAN ports would act just like a
  switch, so that you can easily chain devices without routing/NAT. Just
  like most IP phones do.
 
 So what happens if you try and chain a bunch of SPA-2100s? Does the 2100
 act more like a router?
 

The SPA-2100 will perform NAT between the LAN and WAN ports. It means
that you won't be able to connect to devices behind SPA-2100 from
the WAN side (except by configuring DMZ, but it's gets awful then).

It also means that you can't chain them with their basic config,
because it won't like having the same network address (192.168.1.x) on
both its interfaces.

So right now, if you want to chain them, you have to play with IP
addresses, DHCP settings, etc. Not fun, particularly when you consider
that this device is really plug and play, it remotes configure
everything.

Hopefully a bridge mode will appear in a later firmware upgrade
(which, for Sipuras, are frequent and readily available on their
website).

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-14 Thread Nicolas Bougues
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 07:43:06PM -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
 We have had a big success with the Linksys PAP2-NA. 2 FX ports and 1 WAN
 port. Only downside is that only 1 call can be using 729 at a time. This has
 been confirmed with Linksys. They will be releasing PAP2-NAv2 in March to
 overcome this. In the meantime, get a Sipura 2100, supports 2 729 calls and
 has both WAN/LAN ports. Personally, I dislike the lack of LEDs on the 2100.
 

My 2100s have 3 LEDs, plus 2 for each RJ-45 port. Instead of just 2
for the SPA-2000.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-14 Thread Nicolas Bougues
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 10:39:36AM -0800, Luki wrote:
 The Sipuras have a ton of configurable parameters. If you understand
 them (and there is no good manual, unfortunately) then you can be of
 great benefit. Otherwise they'll be worthless. I particularly miss the
 dial-plan, distinctive ring and audio gain options on the
 Grandstreams. Remote syslog can also be useful for debugging. It all
 depends what you need, I guess.
 
 Further, the Sipuras have a more detailed status, that is accessible
 WHILE you are engaged in a conversation.
 
 I think you're paying a bit more for the 1000 (1 line version) as
 compared to the Grandstream 286, but if you need/want two independent
 lines, then the Spa 2000 is more economical (as Peter said).
 

The Sipuras are really a dream to manage, particularly in an
international environment. You can customize the tones, the rings, the
voltages, the dialplan, the features... well, everything.

They are (securely) remote manageable and upgradeable. They are rock
solid. Sipura support is helpful in case you need them for complex
issues. Voice quality is top notch.

The Grandstreams are less manageable, have less parameters, have only
american tones, no dialplan support, no auto-upgrade (well, they
recently added some kind of support). Voice quality is OK.

-- 
Nicolas Bougues

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-14 Thread Mark Eissler
On Feb 14, 2005, at 5:39 AM, Nicolas Bougues wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 07:43:06PM -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
We have had a big success with the Linksys PAP2-NA. 2 FX ports and 1 
WAN
port. Only downside is that only 1 call can be using 729 at a time. 
This has
been confirmed with Linksys. They will be releasing PAP2-NAv2 in 
March to
overcome this. In the meantime, get a Sipura 2100, supports 2 729 
calls and
has both WAN/LAN ports. Personally, I dislike the lack of LEDs on the 
2100.

My 2100s have 3 LEDs, plus 2 for each RJ-45 port. Instead of just 2
for the SPA-2000.
I think Matthew was referring to the lack of leds on the front of the 
Sipura. I can't seem to figure out why these manufacturers insist on 
building these boxes like you're going to stick them on your desk next 
to your phone. I want something that's more suitable for a phone 
closet.

Too bad the PAP2-NA can't be purchased retail anymore. Then again, 
you're probably better off with a Sipura-branded unit anyhow.

-mark
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-14 Thread Hermann Wecke
Matthew Boehm wrote:
[...] In the meantime, get a Sipura 2100, supports 2 729 calls and
has both WAN/LAN ports.
I was told that the Uniden DTA200 also supports 2 g729 calls. I'm buying 
one to test. Street price around US$ 90.
Another one with dual g729 channels is MTA V102. Street price US$ 100. 
Also will test this one.

I'm still looking for other units with dual g729 channels...
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-14 Thread Nicolas Bougues
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 10:47:23PM +0900, Hermann Wecke wrote:
 Matthew Boehm wrote:
 [...] In the meantime, get a Sipura 2100, supports 2 729 calls and
 has both WAN/LAN ports.
 
 I was told that the Uniden DTA200 also supports 2 g729 calls. I'm buying 
 one to test. Street price around US$ 90.
 Another one with dual g729 channels is MTA V102. Street price US$ 100. 
 Also will test this one.
 
 I'm still looking for other units with dual g729 channels...
 

Back in december, the Uniden was supposed to do 2xG729 at a later
time. Not sure if the current firmware allows it.

BTW, I've been fairly disappointed with Uniden firmware and their
release cycle : their hardware is great, but they take months to
release new firmwares, even when phone crashing bugs are
discovered.

If you want 2xG.729 now, working reliably, for under $90, you can't go
wrong withe the SPA-2100. The only thing the SPA-2100 (still) lacks is
a bridge mode, where the LAN and WAN ports would act just like a
switch, so that you can easily chain devices without routing/NAT. Just
like most IP phones do.

-- 
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[Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-13 Thread Anton Krall
Guys.. which ATA is better for connecting analog phones (features,
stability, experiences, etc)?
 
Sipura 2000 or Handy Tone 286, etc?
 
What are you experiences? 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-13 Thread Peer Oliver Schmidt
Anton Krall wrote:
Guys.. which ATA is better for connecting analog phones (features,
stability, experiences, etc)?
 
Sipura 2000 or Handy Tone 286, etc?
 
What are you experiences? 
In my experience the Sipura 2000 has three hardware advantages:
* 2 independent phone ports
* Mounting holes
* The price for a single Sipura 2000 is less than the price for two 
Grandstreams.

As far as software and compatibility with * goes, I only have experience 
in a LAN environment, where both worked (with the right firmware) 
without a problem.

The Sipuras seem a little bit louder (or so the users tell me).
--
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-13 Thread Luki
The Sipuras have a ton of configurable parameters. If you understand
them (and there is no good manual, unfortunately) then you can be of
great benefit. Otherwise they'll be worthless. I particularly miss the
dial-plan, distinctive ring and audio gain options on the
Grandstreams. Remote syslog can also be useful for debugging. It all
depends what you need, I guess.

Further, the Sipuras have a more detailed status, that is accessible
WHILE you are engaged in a conversation.

I think you're paying a bit more for the 1000 (1 line version) as
compared to the Grandstream 286, but if you need/want two independent
lines, then the Spa 2000 is more economical (as Peter said).

--Luki
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-13 Thread Sascha E. Pollok
Good evening,

allow me to join in right here. Which ATA/TA would you
suggest for connecting analogue fax machines to Asterisk?
One of the ones named before or e.g. a ATA-186 made by Cisco?

Cheers
Sascha

 The Sipuras have a ton of configurable parameters. If you understand
 them (and there is no good manual, unfortunately) then you can be of
 great benefit. Otherwise they'll be worthless. I particularly miss the
 dial-plan, distinctive ring and audio gain options on the
 Grandstreams. Remote syslog can also be useful for debugging. It all
 depends what you need, I guess.

 Further, the Sipuras have a more detailed status, that is accessible
 WHILE you are engaged in a conversation.

 I think you're paying a bit more for the 1000 (1 line version) as
 compared to the Grandstream 286, but if you need/want two independent
 lines, then the Spa 2000 is more economical (as Peter said).
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-13 Thread Peer Oliver Schmidt
Sascha E. Pollok wrote:
Good evening,
allow me to join in right here. Which ATA/TA would you
suggest for connecting analogue fax machines to Asterisk?
One of the ones named before or e.g. a ATA-186 made by Cisco?
At the moment I am deploying Grandstream ATAs for faxing machines with 
out a problem so far.
--
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-13 Thread Jay Milk
 -Original Message-
 From: Luki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 The Sipuras have a ton of configurable parameters. If you 
 understand them (and there is no good manual, unfortunately) 

Really?  87 pages aren't enough for you?

http://www.sipura.com/Documents/SipuraSPAUserGuidev2.0.9.pdf

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATA's

2005-02-13 Thread Matthew Boehm
We have had a big success with the Linksys PAP2-NA. 2 FX ports and 1 WAN
port. Only downside is that only 1 call can be using 729 at a time. This has
been confirmed with Linksys. They will be releasing PAP2-NAv2 in March to
overcome this. In the meantime, get a Sipura 2100, supports 2 729 calls and
has both WAN/LAN ports. Personally, I dislike the lack of LEDs on the 2100.

-Matthew

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 The Sipuras have a ton of configurable parameters. If you understand
 them (and there is no good manual, unfortunately) then you can be of
 great benefit. Otherwise they'll be worthless. I particularly miss the
 dial-plan, distinctive ring and audio gain options on the
 Grandstreams. Remote syslog can also be useful for debugging. It all
 depends what you need, I guess.

 Further, the Sipuras have a more detailed status, that is accessible
 WHILE you are engaged in a conversation.

 I think you're paying a bit more for the 1000 (1 line version) as
 compared to the Grandstream 286, but if you need/want two independent
 lines, then the Spa 2000 is more economical (as Peter said).

 --Luki
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