Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
On 12/16/05, Kevin P. Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C F wrote: Kevin, I'm not sure this would work here, but maybe it would. There was a bug posted about being able to use hint against local channels, would that not help him? http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5779nbn=4 No, the issue is that multiple ISDN devices are not distinct channels as far as Asterisk is concerned; they are all 'Zap/1' with different extensions behind that channel. Kevin, I understood that. However, if that patch allows to create a hint for the local channel no matter what extension that local channel dials (which I'm not sure it does), then it is possilbe to do just that, by creating hints for those extensions using the local channel, and always dial those extensions only using the local channel. This is the same question as asking 'if I have a PRI connected to my Panasonic PBX, can I use hints for all the extensions on that PBX'. It won't work in Asterisk, because it's not aware of the actual endpoints, only the channel that connects to them. Well, with my idea above it will, since you are dialing it using a local channel. On inbound calls - from that other PBX to asterisk - it could also be done with some DP magic, if that bug supports hints on the local channels. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: is it possible to use the cid of a isdn-phone as well to identify multiple devices behind one line ? I did not understand the question, what you mean? Sergio ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
an isdn-line has two usable 64k channels and you can connect multiple phones to an isdn-line each phone is using it's own msn/cid for calls towards the isdn-phones you can tell asterisk to use an specified channel eg. exten-123,1,Dial(Zap/1/123) exten-124,1,Dial(Zap/2/124) this way hints for Zap channels work for incoming calls but usually you use a group/span in your dialplan so it's possible to use both channels for any extension/msn but for outgoing calls both isdn-devices use any free channel of the isdn-line [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16.12.2005 09:13:33: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: is it possible to use the cid of a isdn-phone as well to identify multiple devices behind one line ? I did not understand the question, what you mean? Sergio ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an isdn-line has two usable 64k channels and you can connect multiple phones to an isdn-line each phone is using it's own msn/cid Since Asterisk is not aware of these being individual devices, there is no way that hints could reliably work for them. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
Kevin, I'm not sure this would work here, but maybe it would. There was a bug posted about being able to use hint against local channels, would that not help him? http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5779nbn=4 After looking at it again, I realize it might only work for parked channels, so I'm not sure. On 12/16/05, Kevin P. Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an isdn-line has two usable 64k channels and you can connect multiple phones to an isdn-line each phone is using it's own msn/cid Since Asterisk is not aware of these being individual devices, there is no way that hints could reliably work for them. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16.12.2005 16:18:49: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an isdn-line has two usable 64k channels and you can connect multiple phones to an isdn-line each phone is using it's own msn/cid Since Asterisk is not aware of these being individual devices, there is no way that hints could reliably work for them. thanks for the answer - I expected this, although I hoped something different ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
C F wrote: Kevin, I'm not sure this would work here, but maybe it would. There was a bug posted about being able to use hint against local channels, would that not help him? http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5779nbn=4 No, the issue is that multiple ISDN devices are not distinct channels as far as Asterisk is concerned; they are all 'Zap/1' with different extensions behind that channel. This is the same question as asking 'if I have a PRI connected to my Panasonic PBX, can I use hints for all the extensions on that PBX'. It won't work in Asterisk, because it's not aware of the actual endpoints, only the channel that connects to them. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
On Fri, December 16, 2005 16:39, Kevin P. Fleming said: C F wrote: Kevin, I'm not sure this would work here, but maybe it would. There was a bug posted about being able to use hint against local channels, would that not help him? http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5779nbn=4 No, the issue is that multiple ISDN devices are not distinct channels as far as Asterisk is concerned; they are all 'Zap/1' with different extensions behind that channel. This is the same question as asking 'if I have a PRI connected to my Panasonic PBX, can I use hints for all the extensions on that PBX'. It won't work in Asterisk, because it's not aware of the actual endpoints, only the channel that connects to them. I personally think this is a fault in (*). (Or rather Zaptel) Because there is such a thing as ISDN, I think it should be able to recognize separate channels for DIDs... Both internal and external ZAP channels should be able to recognise the different DID/CID/CLID as separate identifiable endpoints. That way you can chose a 'channel' and have (*) use the correct CID/CLID. When doing extensions it should dial it, when doing outbound the chosen channel could define which MSN/CLID to use, inbound the DID would define the channel. (Just like the way it does now for the channels/extensions, but for ISDN just dialing Zap/1 won't do the trick... You'll need to dial Zap/1/2020 to get the ISDN phone with MSN 2020) Just my EUR 0,02 -- F Peeters PIII 450 - 1 GB - * 1.2 - BRIstuff 0.3.0 Pre 1 - Florz patch 2 Sweex HFC-PCI modes=2 sync_slave=2 timer_card=0 Cologne HFC-S pins #52, #54, #55 connected in parallel for synching. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
Francesco Peeters (Asterisk) wrote: I personally think this is a fault in (*). (Or rather Zaptel) You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but thinking that Asterisk should understand the concept of 'remote endpoints' as native devices is by no means a 'fault'. If nobody has wanted this enough before to be able to code it up and submit it, then it's just a lack of functionality. Because there is such a thing as ISDN, I think it should be able to recognize separate channels for DIDs... Both internal and external ZAP channels should be able to recognise the different DID/CID/CLID as separate identifiable endpoints. That way you can chose a 'channel' and have (*) use the correct CID/CLID. And how would Asterisk know when these endpoints communicate directly with each other to keep trace of device state? It would certainly be possible to do what you want, but it would need to be implemented by the Zaptel driver that is communicating with that ISDN interface, so it can present distinct 'channels' to chan_zap for each device on the ISDN bus. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
On Fri, December 16, 2005 20:44, Kevin P. Fleming said: Francesco Peeters (Asterisk) wrote: I personally think this is a fault in (*). (Or rather Zaptel) You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but thinking that Asterisk should understand the concept of 'remote endpoints' as native devices is by no means a 'fault'. If nobody has wanted this enough before to be able to code it up and submit it, then it's just a lack of functionality. OK, Maybe fault wasn't the right word here... Lacking is probably better... I'd love to look in to it and code it, but I simply haven't got the time to investigate and code it... Because there is such a thing as ISDN, I think it should be able to recognize separate channels for DIDs... Both internal and external ZAP channels should be able to recognise the different DID/CID/CLID as separate identifiable endpoints. That way you can chose a 'channel' and have (*) use the correct CID/CLID. And how would Asterisk know when these endpoints communicate directly with each other to keep trace of device state? Because it would either be the device in NT mode, and therefore initiate the connection, and be able to see the data flows. Or it would be TE mode, but still on the same bus (which means it'll still see the data) It would certainly be possible to do what you want, but it would need to be implemented by the Zaptel driver that is communicating with that ISDN interface, so it can present distinct 'channels' to chan_zap for each device on the ISDN bus. That's why I said 'Or rather Zaptel' in my original comment... -- F Peeters PIII 450 - 1 GB - * 1.2 - BRIstuff 0.3.0 Pre 1 - Florz patch 2 Sweex HFC-PCI modes=2 sync_slave=2 timer_card=0 Cologne HFC-S pins #52, #54, #55 connected in parallel for synching. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
Hi all has anyone an working example of a hint-entry with a Zap-Channel ? I've got hint working with SIP and SCCP but Zap doesn't seem to work ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: has anyone an working example of a hint-entry with a Zap-Channel ? I've got hint working with SIP and SCCP but Zap doesn't seem to work Fixed in current CVS 1.2 and HEAD older versions have a case sensitivity issue so you have to write it in the right way this one works exten = 1, hint, Zap/1 this one does not work exten = 1, hint, ZAP/1 this one does not work exten = 1, hint, zap/1 Sergio ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] hint on Zap channels
this does work, and is adding the hint to the channel on the isdn-card and you can also add a watch to the second-isdn-channel of the card is it possible to use the cid of a isdn-phone as well to identify multiple devices behind one line ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15.12.2005 14:31:09: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: has anyone an working example of a hint-entry with a Zap-Channel ? I've got hint working with SIP and SCCP but Zap doesn't seem to work Fixed in current CVS 1.2 and HEAD older versions have a case sensitivity issue so you have to write it in the right way this one works exten = 1, hint, Zap/1 this one does not work exten = 1, hint, ZAP/1 this one does not work exten = 1, hint, zap/1 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
