Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-16 Thread Steve Davies
On 8/15/07, OCOSA ListAcct [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did not work either...Thank you!

 Otis

 Michiel van Baak wrote:
  On 15:02, Sun 12 Aug 07, OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
  exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 
  Make this line read:
   exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,,tr)
 
  That should do the trick
 

As Eric observed in an earlier email in this thread, the phone handset
is probably giving up on you and responding with a No-Answer message
to asterisk. The only solutions that I am aware of are 1) A queue (as
previously suggested) or 2) A dialplan which loops around before the
75 seconds of ringtime are up, hangup the call and dial it again.

The queue is the better option IMHO as it allows hold music and
announcements. OTOH, it does mean that the caller is paying for an
answered call.

Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-15 Thread OCOSA ListAcct
Did not work either...Thank you!

Otis



Michiel van Baak wrote:
 On 15:02, Sun 12 Aug 07, OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
   
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 
 Make this line read:
  exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,,tr)

 That should do the trick
   


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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-14 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 15:02, Sun 12 Aug 07, OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
Make this line read:
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,,tr)

That should do the trick
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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-13 Thread Steve Totaro
Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 Steve Totaro wrote:
 
 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
   
   
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 
 
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
   
   
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 
 
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 
   
   
 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

   
 
 
 That is an odd statement about queues.  I ran a call center handling 
 over 15,000 calls a day using Asterisk and queues.  No real problems.

 Please qualify your completely abstract statement, Queues in Asterisk 
 are horrid little creatures.  Statements like this are completely non 
 productive to anyone.

 Thanks,
 Steve

   
   
 Sorry to reply to my own post but for clarification, we had four 
 queues.  English sales, English support, Spanish sales, Spanish Support. 

 At peek times, we would have 200-300 agents logged in and 600 or so 
 callers.  This was usually when our ads were running during Jerry 
 Springer or Judge Judy.

 I think his two agent single queue would work just fine.  Add 
 Queuemetrics which is free (I believe) for five or less agents and then 
 you can actually get some reporting on how your support role is handled.
 

 In your situation it seems that queues work well for you.  When you have 
 dedicated agents answering calls full time queues work well.

 In non-call shops people forget to log out of the queue, are away from 
 their desk often, and otherwise just screw up many of the assumptions 
 that the Asterisk queue system makes.  This is in addition to the 
 learning curve.

 For a low number of calls and/or non-dedicated agents, a little bit of 
 dialplan logic can do everything someone needs with something that is 
 massively more flexible.
   

So you are basically saying that Asterisk Queues are not really a bad 
thing. 

So your blanket statement, Queues in Asterisk are horrid little 
creatures. should really read, *Untrained users of Queues in Asterisk 
are horrid little creatures

*Well with any system, if users are not trained properly or do not use 
the system correctly, there will be problems.  I would not blame it on 
the software through.

There are steps you can take to mitigate some of the harm done by user 
error.  One is the removal of an agent from the queue if they do not 
answer the call (agentcallback), that is built into Asterisk.  Another 
is a more complicated but works well.  It involves an ActiveX control 
loaded into IE that speaks jabber to your Asterisk box.  The user/agent 
must be actively moving through the CRM or a popup will ask if they are 
still there, they have ten seconds to click yes, or Jabber sends a 
message to Asterisk to remove them from the queue.

Another thought I had but it never went beyond a thought was sort of 
like reverse answering machine detection.  Some sort of logic that 
listens to the agents channel for voice (such as hello or thank you for 
calling) within a relatively short period of time.  If no voice was 
detected, the agent would be logged out and the call routed to another 
agent.  This feature would be great for call centers that use agentlogin 
rather than agentcallback.

Tied with Queuemetrics, you can quickly see who is logging in and out 
excessively and re-train those users on proper use.

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-13 Thread Andres
Trevor Peirce wrote:

OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
  

I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.


I wonder if this is your phone deciding it has been ringing for long 
enough and rejecting the call.
  

That is probably the case.  I know that the Linksys ATAs do not ring 
indefinitely.  After exactly 60 seconds of ringing, it sends back a 
message of:
SIP/2.0 480 Temporarily not available, thus causing the dialplan logic 
to continue on to voicemail.

Your best bet is to setup a roundrobin queue and cycle through every 50 
seconds or so.

Perhaps a NoOp(DialStatus is ${DIALSTATUS}) would shed light on this 
possibility?

Trevor

  

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[asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread OCOSA ListAcct
I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

Here is how the dial plan is setup

exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
exten=5,5,HangUp()
exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Any help is appreciated

Otis



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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread Steve Totaro
OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   

Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.

Thanks,
Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Steve Totaro wrote:
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
 
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.

Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
rings for a long time.

Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread OCOSA ListAcct
Steve do you have an example that works for you. I am reading the queue 
literature nowThank you!

Otis

Steve Totaro wrote:
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
   
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
 

 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.

 Thanks,
 Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread OCOSA ListAcct
Eric

so I should do this

exten=5,1,Answer
exten=5,2,StartMusicOnHold
exten=5,3,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
exten=5,4,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
exten=5,5,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
exten=5,6,HangUp()
exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Otis

Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 

 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread Steve Totaro
Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 

 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

   

That is an odd statement about queues.  I ran a call center handling 
over 15,000 calls a day using Asterisk and queues.  No real problems.

Please qualify your completely abstract statement, Queues in Asterisk 
are horrid little creatures.  Statements like this are completely non 
productive to anyone.

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread Steve Totaro
Steve Totaro wrote:
 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
   
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
   
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 
   
 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

   
 

 That is an odd statement about queues.  I ran a call center handling 
 over 15,000 calls a day using Asterisk and queues.  No real problems.

 Please qualify your completely abstract statement, Queues in Asterisk 
 are horrid little creatures.  Statements like this are completely non 
 productive to anyone.

 Thanks,
 Steve

   

Sorry to reply to my own post but for clarification, we had four 
queues.  English sales, English support, Spanish sales, Spanish Support. 

At peek times, we would have 200-300 agents logged in and 600 or so 
callers.  This was usually when our ads were running during Jerry 
Springer or Judge Judy.

I think his two agent single queue would work just fine.  Add 
Queuemetrics which is free (I believe) for five or less agents and then 
you can actually get some reporting on how your support role is handled.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro


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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread OCOSA ListAcct
Steve do you have an example of this...

Otis



Steve Totaro wrote:
 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
   
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
   
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 
   
 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

   
 

 That is an odd statement about queues.  I ran a call center handling 
 over 15,000 calls a day using Asterisk and queues.  No real problems.

 Please qualify your completely abstract statement, Queues in Asterisk 
 are horrid little creatures.  Statements like this are completely non 
 productive to anyone.

 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread Steve Totaro
Yes, but I have to be up very early in the morning and it is getting late.

The answer priority will work for you in the meantime. 

If you want to investigate using real queues, let me know and I will 
help you set it up.  Most of the stuff is on the Wiki but I will give 
you exact settings that should work on your setup.  If you plan on 
growing or ever want to collect data on queues, then this is the way to go.

Thanks,
Steve

OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 Steve do you have an example of this...

 Otis



 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
   
 
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 
   
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
   
 
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 
   
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 
   
 
 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

   
 
   
 That is an odd statement about queues.  I ran a call center handling 
 over 15,000 calls a day using Asterisk and queues.  No real problems.

 Please qualify your completely abstract statement, Queues in Asterisk 
 are horrid little creatures.  Statements like this are completely non 
 productive to anyone.

 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread OCOSA ListAcct
Ok thanks. I will finish reading and see if I have any questions I will 
post and wait until you answer thank you!

Otis



Steve Totaro wrote:
 Yes, but I have to be up very early in the morning and it is getting late.

 The answer priority will work for you in the meantime. 

 If you want to investigate using real queues, let me know and I will 
 help you set it up.  Most of the stuff is on the Wiki but I will give 
 you exact settings that should work on your setup.  If you plan on 
 growing or ever want to collect data on queues, then this is the way to go.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
   
 Steve do you have an example of this...

 Otis



 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 
 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
   
 
   
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 
   
 
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
   
 
   
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 
   
 
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 
   
 
   
 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

   
 
   
 
 That is an odd statement about queues.  I ran a call center handling 
 over 15,000 calls a day using Asterisk and queues.  No real problems.

 Please qualify your completely abstract statement, Queues in Asterisk 
 are horrid little creatures.  Statements like this are completely non 
 productive to anyone.

 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Yes.  MOST of the time you should not use Answer, but in this specific 
case it may solve your issue.

OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 Eric
 
 so I should do this
 
 exten=5,1,Answer
 exten=5,2,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,3,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,4,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,5,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,6,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 
 
 Otis
 
 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 
 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Steve Totaro wrote:
 Steve Totaro wrote:
 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
   
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
   
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 
   
 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

   
 
 That is an odd statement about queues.  I ran a call center handling 
 over 15,000 calls a day using Asterisk and queues.  No real problems.

 Please qualify your completely abstract statement, Queues in Asterisk 
 are horrid little creatures.  Statements like this are completely non 
 productive to anyone.

 Thanks,
 Steve

   
 
 Sorry to reply to my own post but for clarification, we had four 
 queues.  English sales, English support, Spanish sales, Spanish Support. 
 
 At peek times, we would have 200-300 agents logged in and 600 or so 
 callers.  This was usually when our ads were running during Jerry 
 Springer or Judge Judy.
 
 I think his two agent single queue would work just fine.  Add 
 Queuemetrics which is free (I believe) for five or less agents and then 
 you can actually get some reporting on how your support role is handled.

In your situation it seems that queues work well for you.  When you have 
dedicated agents answering calls full time queues work well.

In non-call shops people forget to log out of the queue, are away from 
their desk often, and otherwise just screw up many of the assumptions 
that the Asterisk queue system makes.  This is in addition to the 
learning curve.

For a low number of calls and/or non-dedicated agents, a little bit of 
dialplan logic can do everything someone needs with something that is 
massively more flexible.



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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread OCOSA ListAcct
Steve / Eric

When configuring the queue I tested works fine but one issue. My agent 
auto logs off after I am done with the call. I tried ignoring that 
option in agents.conf no luckAlso the below with the Answer line 
does not work either...still stays on and ring about 1:15 secs then goes 
to voicemail

Otis


Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 Steve Totaro wrote:
 
 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
   
   
 Steve Totaro wrote:
   
 
 
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 
   
   
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
   
 
 
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 
   
   
 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.

 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.

 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

   
 
 
 That is an odd statement about queues.  I ran a call center handling 
 over 15,000 calls a day using Asterisk and queues.  No real problems.

 Please qualify your completely abstract statement, Queues in Asterisk 
 are horrid little creatures.  Statements like this are completely non 
 productive to anyone.

 Thanks,
 Steve

   
   
 Sorry to reply to my own post but for clarification, we had four 
 queues.  English sales, English support, Spanish sales, Spanish Support. 

 At peek times, we would have 200-300 agents logged in and 600 or so 
 callers.  This was usually when our ads were running during Jerry 
 Springer or Judge Judy.

 I think his two agent single queue would work just fine.  Add 
 Queuemetrics which is free (I believe) for five or less agents and then 
 you can actually get some reporting on how your support role is handled.
 

   



 In your situation it seems that queues work well for you.  When you have 
 dedicated agents answering calls full time queues work well.

 In non-call shops people forget to log out of the queue, are away from 
 their desk often, and otherwise just screw up many of the assumptions 
 that the Asterisk queue system makes.  This is in addition to the 
 learning curve.

 For a low number of calls and/or non-dedicated agents, a little bit of 
 dialplan logic can do everything someone needs with something that is 
 massively more flexible.



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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread Stephen Bosch
Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 Steve Totaro wrote:
 OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.

 My goal here is to let the phones ring and ring until someone is not 
 busy. I think 2 secs is long enough.

 Here is how the dial plan is setup

 exten=5,1,StartMusicOnHold
 exten=5,2,Dial(SIP/supportSIP/support2,2,tr)
 exten=5,3,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten=5,4,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)
 exten=5,5,HangUp()
 exten=1222,1,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Any help is appreciated

 Otis

   
 Easiest way to solve your problem is to implement a support queue.
 
 Queues in Asterisk are horrid little creatures.
 
 Many SIP phones and ITSPs will disconnect the call if the destination 
 rings for a long time.
 
 Put an Answer as your first priority, this should fix your problem.

Couldn't one change the default timeout so that Dial() will ring for
2 seconds? Or will that have all kinds of other undesirable side
effects?

-Stephen-

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Re: [asterisk-users] 20min waiting time

2007-08-12 Thread Trevor Peirce
OCOSA ListAcct wrote:
 I apologize if this question has already been answered / asked. I was 
 searching on Google and nothing I do will work. All that happens is that 
 the phones ring for 00:01:15 then voicemail kicks in.
I wonder if this is your phone deciding it has been ringing for long 
enough and rejecting the call.

Perhaps a NoOp(DialStatus is ${DIALSTATUS}) would shed light on this 
possibility?

Trevor

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