Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-07 Thread Joe Acquisto
. . .
> So your timing source is basically working.
> 
> -- 
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And this means . . . any FAX-ing issues must be due to other problems?

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 08:42:59AM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/7/2007 8:24 AM:
> > On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 07:47:12AM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote:
> >> Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 9:52 PM:
> >> > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:19:16PM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> zttest does not exist on this system, Suse 10 based.   IIRC, I never 
> >> >> found the file(s) needed to compile it.
> >> > 
> >> > Do you actually have a timing source?
> >> > 
> >> >   head -c 0 /dev/zap/pseudo
> >> > 
> >> > Do you get input from there in a resonable time?
> >> > 
> >> >   time head -c 8192 /dev/zap/pseudo
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> Only returns to prompt for each of those.  No output to screen.
> > 
> > The second one must have given some output. If the first one gives no
> > errors, you probably have at least a semi-functioning timing source.
> 
> Yes, sorry, left out "time", output follows:
> 
> foo:~ # time head -c 8192 /dev/zap/pseudo
> 
> real0m1.029s

Approximately 1 second.

> user0m0.000s
> sys 0m0.004s
> foo:~ #

So your timing source is basically working.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-07 Thread Joe Acquisto
Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/7/2007 8:24 AM:
> On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 07:47:12AM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote:
>> Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 9:52 PM:
>> > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:19:16PM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote:
>> > 
>> >> zttest does not exist on this system, Suse 10 based.   IIRC, I never 
>> >> found the file(s) needed to compile it.
>> > 
>> > Do you actually have a timing source?
>> > 
>> >   head -c 0 /dev/zap/pseudo
>> > 
>> > Do you get input from there in a resonable time?
>> > 
>> >   time head -c 8192 /dev/zap/pseudo
>> > 
>> 
>> Only returns to prompt for each of those.  No output to screen.
> 
> The second one must have given some output. If the first one gives no
> errors, you probably have at least a semi-functioning timing source.

Yes, sorry, left out "time", output follows:

foo:~ # time head -c 8192 /dev/zap/pseudo

real0m1.029s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.004s
foo:~ #

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 07:47:12AM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 9:52 PM:
> > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:19:16PM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote:
> > 
> >> zttest does not exist on this system, Suse 10 based.   IIRC, I never 
> >> found the file(s) needed to compile it.
> > 
> > Do you actually have a timing source?
> > 
> >   head -c 0 /dev/zap/pseudo
> > 
> > Do you get input from there in a resonable time?
> > 
> >   time head -c 8192 /dev/zap/pseudo
> > 
> 
> Only returns to prompt for each of those.  No output to screen.

The second one must have given some output. If the first one gives no
errors, you probably have at least a semi-functioning timing source.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-07 Thread Joe Acquisto
Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 9:52 PM:
> On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:19:16PM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote:
> 
>> zttest does not exist on this system, Suse 10 based.   IIRC, I never 
>> found the file(s) needed to compile it.
> 
> Do you actually have a timing source?
> 
>   head -c 0 /dev/zap/pseudo
> 
> Do you get input from there in a resonable time?
> 
>   time head -c 8192 /dev/zap/pseudo
> 

Only returns to prompt for each of those.  No output to screen.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-07 Thread Joe Acquisto

Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 9:53 PM:
> On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 12:37:47PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote:
> 
>> It's usually built and left in the zaptel source directory where you 
>> extracted and built zaptel.  If it doesn't get built for you from 
>> zttest.c then check the Makefile that it has zttest in BINS like this 
>> from mine:
>> 
>>  BINS=ztcfg torisatool makefw ztmonitor ztspeed zttest fxotune
> 
> A simpler method:
> 
>  make -C /path/to/zaptel/source zttest
> 
> which will generate zttest for you. You can use zttest from whatever
> version of Zaptel you might have.

Repeated warnings about "clock skew detected."

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Andrew Joakimsen

On 4/6/07, Joe Acquisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I find the source.   IIRC, the problem was there was some dependency 
(terminology ?), or package that was missing and I got complaints when trying 
to compile.  I can't recall what it was, but it is something that is included 
in most distro's but not SUSE by default.

Is there a way to compile this without screwing up other, existing things?  I 
compile real good, as long as I have a cookbook.




If you can find the name of the package you want and it really is not
part of SuSE chances are you can find it in the Packman
http://packman.links2linux.org/ or Guru
http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ repositories.
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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 12:37:47PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote:

> It's usually built and left in the zaptel source directory where you 
> extracted and built zaptel.  If it doesn't get built for you from 
> zttest.c then check the Makefile that it has zttest in BINS like this 
> from mine:
> 
>  BINS=ztcfg torisatool makefw ztmonitor ztspeed zttest fxotune

A simpler method:

 make -C /path/to/zaptel/source zttest

which will generate zttest for you. You can use zttest from whatever
version of Zaptel you might have.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:19:16PM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote:

> zttest does not exist on this system, Suse 10 based.   IIRC, I never 
> found the file(s) needed to compile it.

Do you actually have a timing source?

  head -c 0 /dev/zap/pseudo

Do you get input from there in a resonable time?

  time head -c 8192 /dev/zap/pseudo

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Joe Acquisto
I find the source.   IIRC, the problem was there was some dependency 
(terminology ?), or package that was missing and I got complaints when trying 
to compile.  I can't recall what it was, but it is something that is included 
in most distro's but not SUSE by default.

Is there a way to compile this without screwing up other, existing things?  I 
compile real good, as long as I have a cookbook.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Lee Howard

Joe Acquisto wrote:


Lee Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 2:15 PM:
 


Joe Acquisto wrote:

   


AFAIK, the FAX targets are normal FAX machines, on the PSTN.

What happens is, there appears to be a dial out, and a FAX negotiation, but 
What it always fails.


 

What does zttest say about your zap card configuration/installation?  
If 
it's not always 99.98% or better then it's due to hardware resource 
constriction and you need to escalate the zaptel card's priority on the 
hardware (like putting it at a lower IRQ).


Lee.
   




zttest does not exist on this system, Suse 10 based.   IIRC, I never found the 
file(s) needed to compile it.



It's usually built and left in the zaptel source directory where you 
extracted and built zaptel.  If it doesn't get built for you from 
zttest.c then check the Makefile that it has zttest in BINS like this 
from mine:


 BINS=ztcfg torisatool makefw ztmonitor ztspeed zttest fxotune

Lee.
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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Gustavo Cordeiro


 You can find zttest.c in the zaptel source package. Download it from the 
asterisk.org.


Sds,
Gustavo


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Lee Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 2:15 PM:
> Joe Acquisto wrote:
>
>>AFAIK, the FAX targets are normal FAX machines, on the PSTN.
>>
>>What happens is, there appears to be a dial out, and a FAX negotiation, 
but

>>What it always fails.
>>
>
> What does zttest say about your zap card configuration/installation?
> If
> it's not always 99.98% or better then it's due to hardware resource
> constriction and you need to escalate the zaptel card's priority on the
> hardware (like putting it at a lower IRQ).
>
> Lee.


zttest does not exist on this system, Suse 10 based.   IIRC, I never found 
the file(s) needed to compile it.


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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Joe Acquisto

Lee Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 2:15 PM:
> Joe Acquisto wrote:
> 
>>AFAIK, the FAX targets are normal FAX machines, on the PSTN.
>>
>>What happens is, there appears to be a dial out, and a FAX negotiation, but 
>>What it always fails.
>>
> 
> What does zttest say about your zap card configuration/installation?  
> If 
> it's not always 99.98% or better then it's due to hardware resource 
> constriction and you need to escalate the zaptel card's priority on the 
> hardware (like putting it at a lower IRQ).
> 
> Lee.


zttest does not exist on this system, Suse 10 based.   IIRC, I never found the 
file(s) needed to compile it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Lee Howard

Joe Acquisto wrote:


AFAIK, the FAX targets are normal FAX machines, on the PSTN.

What happens is, there appears to be a dial out, and a FAX negotiation, but it 
always fails.



What does zttest say about your zap card configuration/installation?  If 
it's not always 99.98% or better then it's due to hardware resource 
constriction and you need to escalate the zaptel card's priority on the 
hardware (like putting it at a lower IRQ).


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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Joe Acquisto

Gordon Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 9:51 AM:
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Joe Acquisto wrote:
> 
>> AFAIK, the FAX targets are normal FAX machines, on the PSTN.
>>
>> What happens is, there appears to be a dial out, and a FAX negotiation, 
>> but it always fails.
> 
> I think what Bryan is asking: Where is your FAX source? If the sending 
> system is coming in on another port on the TDM card then fine, if it's 
> coming in via the Internet (SIP, IAX) then it's going to be variable at 
> best...
> 
> Gordon
> 

Ah.  The FAX source in on the same TDM card.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Joe Acquisto wrote:


AFAIK, the FAX targets are normal FAX machines, on the PSTN.

What happens is, there appears to be a dial out, and a FAX negotiation, 
but it always fails.


I think what Bryan is asking: Where is your FAX source? If the sending 
system is coming in on another port on the TDM card then fine, if it's 
coming in via the Internet (SIP, IAX) then it's going to be variable at 
best...


Gordon


 >

joe a.

"Bryan M. Johns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 8:49 AM:

Is your carrier delivering service via a TDM circuit?

It has been our experience that you will get far more reliable fax
performance via the method you describe (analog device terminated to
a port on a FXS line card) than attempting to use an ATA on the LAN.
However, if your carrier is a SIP or IAX trunking provider, your
reliability concerns are on the other side of your SIP switch.

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On Apr 6, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote:


There seem to have been many discussions about this, so sorry if
this is boring.

Can one connect a "standard" fax machine (or fax modem) to an
analog port on a TDM400p (as if it were an analog phone, say) and
expect it to work reliably?

For sending, that is.  Detecting and "routing" the call is another
subject (for me).

Seems it "should", but does not.  At least not for me.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Joe Acquisto
AFAIK, the FAX targets are normal FAX machines, on the PSTN.

What happens is, there appears to be a dial out, and a FAX negotiation, but it 
always fails.

joe a.

"Bryan M. Johns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: 4/6/2007 8:49 AM:
> Is your carrier delivering service via a TDM circuit?
> 
> It has been our experience that you will get far more reliable fax  
> performance via the method you describe (analog device terminated to  
> a port on a FXS line card) than attempting to use an ATA on the LAN.   
> However, if your carrier is a SIP or IAX trunking provider, your  
> reliability concerns are on the other side of your SIP switch.
> 
> Bryan Johns
> Partner
> 
> Shelton | Johns
> 1805 Old Alabama Road
> Suite 200
> Roswell, GA 30076
> USA
> Office: 678.248.2637
> FindMe: 678.229.1809
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> On Apr 6, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote:
> 
>> There seem to have been many discussions about this, so sorry if  
>> this is boring.
>>
>> Can one connect a "standard" fax machine (or fax modem) to an  
>> analog port on a TDM400p (as if it were an analog phone, say) and  
>> expect it to work reliably?
>>
>> For sending, that is.  Detecting and "routing" the call is another  
>> subject (for me).
>>
>> Seems it "should", but does not.  At least not for me.
>>
>> joe a.
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Re: [asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Bryan M. Johns

Is your carrier delivering service via a TDM circuit?

It has been our experience that you will get far more reliable fax  
performance via the method you describe (analog device terminated to  
a port on a FXS line card) than attempting to use an ATA on the LAN.   
However, if your carrier is a SIP or IAX trunking provider, your  
reliability concerns are on the other side of your SIP switch.


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Suite 200
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On Apr 6, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote:

There seem to have been many discussions about this, so sorry if  
this is boring.


Can one connect a "standard" fax machine (or fax modem) to an  
analog port on a TDM400p (as if it were an analog phone, say) and  
expect it to work reliably?


For sending, that is.  Detecting and "routing" the call is another  
subject (for me).


Seems it "should", but does not.  At least not for me.

joe a.

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[asterisk-users] FAX thru TDM400p

2007-04-06 Thread Joe Acquisto
There seem to have been many discussions about this, so sorry if this is boring.

Can one connect a "standard" fax machine (or fax modem) to an analog port on a 
TDM400p (as if it were an analog phone, say) and expect it to work reliably?

For sending, that is.  Detecting and "routing" the call is another subject (for 
me).

Seems it "should", but does not.  At least not for me.

joe a.

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