Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-12 Thread Mitch Claborn
Last night we did a trial run.  I am happy to report that both analog 
and T1 lines worked well with the config files generated by 
dahdi_genconf.  Had a couple of minor issues that I'll ask about in 
separate posts.


Of course when we got on-site, discovered that customer really has 6 
analog lines instead of just 4.  Hopefully the card I ordered last night 
will make it here by Saturday.



Mitch

On 10/11/2012 09:40 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:




Totally typical.  I don't think you will have any issues.

j


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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-11 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere

On 10/11/2012 09:34 AM, Mitch Claborn wrote:
In case the moderator doesn't approve my post with the attachment, 
below is a quick and dirty transcription of the order form.


Customer connecting equipment: CSU/DSU
Circuit: DS1
Line coding: B8ZS
Framing: ESF
Jack type: RJ48X / Smartjack (will that fit into the Digum card?)
ISDN protocol: NI2
Primary D-channel assignment: 24
FAS
Incoming port selection: Ascending sequential 1-24
Indound real-time ANI delivery? yes, 10 digits


Does anyone see any red flags or things to watch out for in these 
specs?  Anyone configured a similar line that is willing to share your 
config files?


I'm traveling for the next several hours, so apologies if I don't 
respond right away.


Mitch

On 10/10/2012 10:34 AM, Mitch Claborn wrote:

Tomorrow evening I'll be at a customer site installing 2 Digum cards - a
4 port analog and 2 port T1.  I'd appreciate any tips, resources and
links that you have that might help if we run into trouble.  It will, of
course, be fairly late at night and relatively high pressure to get it
working, so I'd like to collect as much information in advance as I can.

I was able to install and test the analog card in my lab, so not too
worried about that.
I installed the T1 card in the lab and got the system and Asterisk to
recognize it, but had no T1 to test with.





Totally typical.  I don't think you will have any issues.

j


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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-11 Thread Mitch Claborn
In case the moderator doesn't approve my post with the attachment, below 
is a quick and dirty transcription of the order form.


Customer connecting equipment: CSU/DSU
Circuit: DS1
Line coding: B8ZS
Framing: ESF
Jack type: RJ48X / Smartjack (will that fit into the Digum card?)
ISDN protocol: NI2
Primary D-channel assignment: 24
FAS
Incoming port selection: Ascending sequential 1-24
Indound real-time ANI delivery? yes, 10 digits


Does anyone see any red flags or things to watch out for in these specs? 
 Anyone configured a similar line that is willing to share your config 
files?


I'm traveling for the next several hours, so apologies if I don't 
respond right away.


Mitch

On 10/10/2012 10:34 AM, Mitch Claborn wrote:

Tomorrow evening I'll be at a customer site installing 2 Digum cards - a
4 port analog and 2 port T1.  I'd appreciate any tips, resources and
links that you have that might help if we run into trouble.  It will, of
course, be fairly late at night and relatively high pressure to get it
working, so I'd like to collect as much information in advance as I can.

I was able to install and test the analog card in my lab, so not too
worried about that.
I installed the T1 card in the lab and got the system and Asterisk to
recognize it, but had no T1 to test with.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Mitch Claborn
There is actually only a single T1.  When we ordered the card, customer 
thought there were two, but found out later there is only 1.



Mitch

On 10/10/2012 11:50 AM, Steve Edwards wrote:


What is the relationship between the 2 Ts? NFAS? I've pissed away many
an hour trying to (remotely) identify which T is which, which channels
are D, etc. Telco techs may number them differently than you think.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Eric Wieling
Once an option is set in the chan_dahdi.conf file it applies to every channel 
=> line listed after the setting, until the option is changed.  This is all you 
really know.

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards


>>(I'm sure its written somewhere, I just can't be bothered to look right now.) 

   If you come across it, please let me know because other than getting a hint 
somewhere after 2 hours of googling, I would not have known.

>>And aren't the characteristics 'cumulative' ?


   Can't tell you.  You seem to hint that they are cumulative, although as far 
I tested, they weren't.  



characteristic-a = foo
characteristic-b = bar
channel = 1

characteristic-b = bar
channel = 2 


channel 1 has foo and bar.  Channel 2 has bar only. ...(?)

In any case, my approach was not to take any chances and make sure all 
characteristics I use are cleared of any previous values in each channel 
declaration



Christian Savinovich
VoIP & Telephony Consultant
646-982-3572
 



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        Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum
cards
From: Steve Edwards 
Date: Wed, October 10, 2012 2:27 pm
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion


On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, C. Savinovich wrote:

> - Not written anywhere, but the way chan_dahdi.conf is read, there 
are 
> no [] separators, so any parameters in the file apply to the 
first 
> "channel" statement it finds.

(I'm sure its written somewhere, I just can't be bothered to look right 
now.)

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say you specify the characteristics and 
then specify the channels the characteristics apply to?

And aren't the characteristics 'cumulative' such that

characteristic-a = foo
characteristic-b = bar
channel = 1

characteristic-b = baz
channel = 2

results in channel 1 having foo and bar while channel 2 has foo and baz?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread C. Savinovich
>>(I'm sure its written somewhere, I just can't be bothered to look right now.)    If you come across it, please let me know because other than getting a hint somewhere after 2 hours of googling, I would not have known.>>And aren't the characteristics 'cumulative' ?   Can't tell you.  You seem to hint that they are cumulative, although as far I tested, they weren't.   characteristic-a = foo characteristic-b = bar channel = 1  characteristic-b = bar channel = 2 channel 1 has foo and bar.  Channel 2 has bar only. ...(?)In any case, my approach was not to take any chances and make sure all characteristics I use are cleared of any previous values in each channel declarationChristian SavinovichVoIP & Telephony Consultant646-982-3572 


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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum
cards
From: Steve Edwards <asterisk@sedwards.com>
Date: Wed, October 10, 2012 2:27 pm
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
<asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, C. Savinovich wrote:

> - Not written anywhere, but the way chan_dahdi.conf is read, there are 
> no [] separators, so any parameters in the file apply to the first 
> "channel" statement it finds.

(I'm sure its written somewhere, I just can't be bothered to look right 
now.)

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say you specify the characteristics and 
then specify the channels the characteristics apply to?

And aren't the characteristics 'cumulative' such that

characteristic-a = foo
characteristic-b = bar
channel = 1

characteristic-b = baz
channel = 2

results in channel 1 having foo and bar while channel 2 has foo and baz?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Steve Edwards

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, C. Savinovich wrote:

- Not written anywhere, but the way chan_dahdi.conf is read, there are 
no [] separators, so any parameters in the file apply to the first 
"channel" statement it finds.


(I'm sure its written somewhere, I just can't be bothered to look right 
now.)


Wouldn't it be more accurate to say you specify the characteristics and 
then specify the channels the characteristics apply to?


And aren't the characteristics 'cumulative' such that

characteristic-a = foo
characteristic-b = bar
channel = 1

characteristic-b = baz
channel = 2

results in channel 1 having foo and bar while channel 2 has foo and baz?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread C. Savinovich
>>>Usually, channels 1-15 and 17-31 are B-channels and 16 is the D-channel;We don't use E1s here in the USA.I just finished installing  a PRI line, and being a complete novice at it myself, this is what I wish someone had told me:- the dahdi program dahdi_genconf creates 2 files 1) /etc/dahdi/system.conf  and 2) /etc/asterisk/dahdi-channels.conf.  The latter is the one that maintains the configuration for asterisk.  File chan_dahdi.conf is where the configuration is maintain, you will need to have an#insert dahdi-channels.conf at the start of chan_dahdi.conf, otherwise it will never be read. Else you can type the configuration yourselft in chan_dahdi.conf- Not written anywhere, but the way chan_dahdi.conf is read, there are no [] separators, so any parameters in the file apply to the first "channel" statement it finds.Hope it helps-Christian SavinovichVoIP & Telephony Consultant646-982-3572 


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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum
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From: A J Stiles <asterisk_l...@earthshod.co.uk>
Date: Wed, October 10, 2012 1:17 pm
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"
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On Wednesday 10 October 2012, Mitch Claborn wrote:
> I am a complete novice at T1's, etc.  What else besides framing and
> coding do I need to ask about?

Ask how numbers come through on incoming calls:  in "international" format  
(with IDD and STD codes, but without the leading double-zero and zero 
respectively);  in "full national" format  (with STD code including the 
leading zero);  in "national" format with the STD code *but* with the leading 
0 stripped; or just the local number.

Also ask how they want you to send numbers on outgoing calls  (in particular, 
do you need to insert the STD code even for a local call?)


Then, don't believe a word they say; and use something like
exten => s,1,NoOp(Call to ${EXTEN})
to see how they are _actually_ sending numbers to you.  Start out by sending 
your numbers in the same format, but don't expect consistency.


Usually, channels 1-15 and 17-31 are B-channels and 16 is the D-channel; but 
again, check this with the telco.  If your box can't find a D-channel, it won't 
work at all.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Steve Edwards

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Mitch Claborn wrote:


I am a complete novice at T1's...


On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Mitch Claborn wrote:

It will, of course, be fairly late at night and relatively high pressure 
to get it working...


Good luck. Bring caffeinated beverages :)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Steve Edwards

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, A J Stiles wrote:

Usually, channels 1-15 and 17-31 are B-channels and 16 is the D-channel; 
but again, check this with the telco.  If your box can't find a 
D-channel, it won't work at all.


Or, on this side of the pond, 1-23 B, 24 D is common.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread A J Stiles
On Wednesday 10 October 2012, Mitch Claborn wrote:
> I am a complete novice at T1's, etc.  What else besides framing and
> coding do I need to ask about?

Ask how numbers come through on incoming calls:  in "international" format  
(with IDD and STD codes, but without the leading double-zero and zero 
respectively);  in "full national" format  (with STD code including the 
leading zero);  in "national" format with the STD code *but* with the leading 
0 stripped; or just the local number.

Also ask how they want you to send numbers on outgoing calls  (in particular, 
do you need to insert the STD code even for a local call?)


Then, don't believe a word they say; and use something like
exten => s,1,NoOp(Call to ${EXTEN})
to see how they are _actually_ sending numbers to you.  Start out by sending 
your numbers in the same format, but don't expect consistency.


Usually, channels 1-15 and 17-31 are B-channels and 16 is the D-channel; but 
again, check this with the telco.  If your box can't find a D-channel, it won't 
work at all.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Steve Edwards

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Mitch Claborn wrote:

I am a complete novice at T1's, etc.  What else besides framing and coding 
do I need to ask about?


I have a strong preference for ISDN PRI Ts.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Steve Edwards

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Mitch Claborn wrote:

I am a complete novice at T1's, etc.  What else besides framing and 
coding do I need to ask about?


Lots.

How are the Ts supposed to be configured?

Will you have access to a 'turnup tech' who will sit on the phone with you 
and can make changes?


What is the relationship between the 2 Ts? NFAS? I've pissed away many an 
hour trying to (remotely) identify which T is which, which channels are D, 
etc. Telco techs may number them differently than you think.


How is CID configured? How many digits will you be receiving?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Mitch Claborn
I am a complete novice at T1's, etc.  What else besides framing and 
coding do I need to ask about?



Mitch

On 10/10/2012 10:41 AM, Jose P. Espinal wrote:

 From my own experience, get sure that the Telco actually gives you the
*correct* information about the T1 (framing, coding, etc.). Sometimes
Telco's technicians tend to sound very secure of information they have
not confirmed.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Jose P. Espinal

On 10/10/2012 11:34 AM, Mitch Claborn wrote:
Tomorrow evening I'll be at a customer site installing 2 Digum cards - 
a 4 port analog and 2 port T1.  I'd appreciate any tips, resources and 
links that you have that might help if we run into trouble.  It will, 
of course, be fairly late at night and relatively high pressure to get 
it working, so I'd like to collect as much information in advance as I 
can.


I was able to install and test the analog card in my lab, so not too 
worried about that.
I installed the T1 card in the lab and got the system and Asterisk to 
recognize it, but had no T1 to test with.


From my own experience, get sure that the Telco actually gives you the 
*correct* information about the T1 (framing, coding, etc.). Sometimes 
Telco's technicians tend to sound very secure of information they have 
not confirmed.


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[asterisk-users] Tips for installing and configuring Digum cards

2012-10-10 Thread Mitch Claborn
Tomorrow evening I'll be at a customer site installing 2 Digum cards - a 
4 port analog and 2 port T1.  I'd appreciate any tips, resources and 
links that you have that might help if we run into trouble.  It will, of 
course, be fairly late at night and relatively high pressure to get it 
working, so I'd like to collect as much information in advance as I can.


I was able to install and test the analog card in my lab, so not too 
worried about that.
I installed the T1 card in the lab and got the system and Asterisk to 
recognize it, but had no T1 to test with.


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