Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

2006-04-20 Thread C F
On 4/18/06, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I see, I misunderstood what you meant by customer. It is not you at
 one end and the customer at the other, you are doing the work for a
 customer that owns both endpoints...


exactly.



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 asterisk
 
  On 4/18/06, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yep,
  
   I agree,
  
   Just watch out for regulatory issues if you are in the USA, handing
 a
   CUSTOMER a TDM interface vs. a SIP/VoIP interface falls under a much
   different regulatory and jurisdictional set of rules...
 
  regulatory issues only apply if I'm a provider, this is all for
  implementing a private circuit.
 
  
   Have you talked to anyone that has confirmed an implementation like
   described works without issues?
 
  not as a PRI, but I have done this with 2 Adit 600s like this:
  Site A Definity 3G System  Analog station cards  Adit 600 FXO Card
  and router card  Private full T1 circuit to longdistance haul 
  Site B  Adit 600 FXS Card and router card.
  With the above config we got analog extensions of our Avaya system,
  and a local network routed over the left over channells (IIRC we did
  12 data and 12 voice, all provisioned from the Adit 600s).
 
  
   Damon
  
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   asterisk
   
In theory it should work, I have just written a proposal for
 someone
that involves such a setup. in worst case I can always utilize the
circuit as data, and use 2 asterisk boxes one on each end to
 convert
it back to NI2.
   
On 4/18/06, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Looking for someone with a successful experience similar to
 this;



 I have a need to cross connect a 3COM NBX PBX PRI interface to
   asterisk,
but
 over a long distance. We do not need any IP connectivity and the
solution
 requires G.711u audio so there is no benefit to using IP.



 Has anyone here successfully cross connected any PBX PRI
 interface
expecting
 NI2 PRI signaling B8ZS/ESF with an asterisk box providing
   PRI_Network
 signaling on a T1 interface card using a long haul point to
 point
ESF/B8ZS
 T1?



 I do not need the technical details on how to set up asterisk or
 the
remote
 PBX, just need a sanity check on the idea of using the PTP T1 as
 a
   cross
 connect facility. If they were local to each other I would
 simply
   drop
in a
 T1 crossover cable, but they are not J



 Thanks!










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Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

2006-04-18 Thread C F
In theory it should work, I have just written a proposal for someone
that involves such a setup. in worst case I can always utilize the
circuit as data, and use 2 asterisk boxes one on each end to convert
it back to NI2.

On 4/18/06, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Looking for someone with a successful experience similar to this;



 I have a need to cross connect a 3COM NBX PBX PRI interface to asterisk, but
 over a long distance. We do not need any IP connectivity and the solution
 requires G.711u audio so there is no benefit to using IP.



 Has anyone here successfully cross connected any PBX PRI interface expecting
 NI2 PRI signaling B8ZS/ESF with an asterisk box providing PRI_Network
 signaling on a T1 interface card using a long haul point to point ESF/B8ZS
 T1?



 I do not need the technical details on how to set up asterisk or the remote
 PBX, just need a sanity check on the idea of using the PTP T1 as a cross
 connect facility. If they were local to each other I would simply drop in a
 T1 crossover cable, but they are not J



 Thanks!










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RE: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

2006-04-18 Thread Damon Estep
Yep,

I agree,

Just watch out for regulatory issues if you are in the USA, handing a
CUSTOMER a TDM interface vs. a SIP/VoIP interface falls under a much
different regulatory and jurisdictional set of rules...

Have you talked to anyone that has confirmed an implementation like
described works without issues?

Damon

 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:31 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and
asterisk
 
 In theory it should work, I have just written a proposal for someone
 that involves such a setup. in worst case I can always utilize the
 circuit as data, and use 2 asterisk boxes one on each end to convert
 it back to NI2.
 
 On 4/18/06, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  Looking for someone with a successful experience similar to this;
 
 
 
  I have a need to cross connect a 3COM NBX PBX PRI interface to
asterisk,
 but
  over a long distance. We do not need any IP connectivity and the
 solution
  requires G.711u audio so there is no benefit to using IP.
 
 
 
  Has anyone here successfully cross connected any PBX PRI interface
 expecting
  NI2 PRI signaling B8ZS/ESF with an asterisk box providing
PRI_Network
  signaling on a T1 interface card using a long haul point to point
 ESF/B8ZS
  T1?
 
 
 
  I do not need the technical details on how to set up asterisk or the
 remote
  PBX, just need a sanity check on the idea of using the PTP T1 as a
cross
  connect facility. If they were local to each other I would simply
drop
 in a
  T1 crossover cable, but they are not J
 
 
 
  Thanks!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

2006-04-18 Thread Jim Houser



I have our Avaya connected to Asterisk using NI D channel 
protocol over a standard ESF/B8ZS span. It works 
great.

Pretty easy. On Asterisk's side I just had to tell 
it:
in zapata.conf:
[channels]switchtype=nationalsignalling=pri_cpegroup=1channel 
= 1-23
in zaptel.conf:
loadzone= usdefaultzone= 
usspan=1,0,0,esf,b8zsbchan=1-23dchan=24
Jim



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Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: 
[Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and 
asterisk


Looking for someone with a 
successful experience similar to this;

I have a need to cross connect a 
3COM NBX PBX PRI interface to asterisk, but over a long distance. We do not need 
any IP connectivity and the solution requires G.711u audio so there is no 
benefit to using IP.

Has anyone here successfully cross 
connected any PBX PRI interface expecting NI2 PRI signaling B8ZS/ESF with an 
asterisk box providing PRI_Network signaling on a T1 interface card using a long 
haul point to point ESF/B8ZS T1?

I do not need the technical details 
on how to set up asterisk or the remote PBX, just need a sanity check on the 
idea of using the PTP T1 as a cross connect facility. If they were local to each 
other I would simply drop in a T1 crossover cable, but they are not 
J

Thanks!





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

2006-04-18 Thread Doug Lytle

Jim Houser wrote:
I have our Avaya connected to Asterisk using NI D channel protocol 
over a standard ESF/B8ZS span.  It works great.
 
span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs


Shouldn't you be getting your timing from the Avaya?

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

2006-04-18 Thread Jim Houser
Daaah, you are correct.
A typo on my part, not a cut  paste from my actual build.
Make that span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs


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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

Jim Houser wrote:
 I have our Avaya connected to Asterisk using NI D channel protocol 
 over a standard ESF/B8ZS span.  It works great.
  
 span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs

Shouldn't you be getting your timing from the Avaya?

Doug

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

2006-04-18 Thread Damon Estep
Thanks!
 
technically you have your asterisk connected to the avaya (not the other way), 
since your config below indicates that asterisk is doing CPE side signalling, 
which menas the avaya must be doing network side signalling.
 
nevertheless, the end result is the same!
 
 



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I have our Avaya connected to Asterisk using NI D channel protocol over a 
standard ESF/B8ZS span.  It works great.
 
Pretty easy.  On Asterisk's side I just had to tell it:
in zapata.conf:
[channels]
switchtype=national
signalling=pri_cpe
group=1
channel = 1-23

in zaptel.conf:
loadzone = us
defaultzone = us
span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs
bchan=1-23
dchan=24

Jim
 



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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk



Looking for someone with a successful experience similar to this;

 

I have a need to cross connect a 3COM NBX PBX PRI interface to asterisk, but 
over a long distance. We do not need any IP connectivity and the solution 
requires G.711u audio so there is no benefit to using IP.

 

Has anyone here successfully cross connected any PBX PRI interface expecting 
NI2 PRI signaling B8ZS/ESF with an asterisk box providing PRI_Network signaling 
on a T1 interface card using a long haul point to point ESF/B8ZS T1?

 

I do not need the technical details on how to set up asterisk or the remote 
PBX, just need a sanity check on the idea of using the PTP T1 as a cross 
connect facility. If they were local to each other I would simply drop in a T1 
crossover cable, but they are not :-)

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

2006-04-18 Thread C F
On 4/18/06, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep,

 I agree,

 Just watch out for regulatory issues if you are in the USA, handing a
 CUSTOMER a TDM interface vs. a SIP/VoIP interface falls under a much
 different regulatory and jurisdictional set of rules...

regulatory issues only apply if I'm a provider, this is all for
implementing a private circuit.


 Have you talked to anyone that has confirmed an implementation like
 described works without issues?

not as a PRI, but I have done this with 2 Adit 600s like this:
Site A Definity 3G System  Analog station cards  Adit 600 FXO Card
and router card  Private full T1 circuit to longdistance haul 
Site B  Adit 600 FXS Card and router card.
With the above config we got analog extensions of our Avaya system,
and a local network routed over the left over channells (IIRC we did
12 data and 12 voice, all provisioned from the Adit 600s).


 Damon

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F
  Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:31 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and
 asterisk
 
  In theory it should work, I have just written a proposal for someone
  that involves such a setup. in worst case I can always utilize the
  circuit as data, and use 2 asterisk boxes one on each end to convert
  it back to NI2.
 
  On 4/18/06, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
   Looking for someone with a successful experience similar to this;
  
  
  
   I have a need to cross connect a 3COM NBX PBX PRI interface to
 asterisk,
  but
   over a long distance. We do not need any IP connectivity and the
  solution
   requires G.711u audio so there is no benefit to using IP.
  
  
  
   Has anyone here successfully cross connected any PBX PRI interface
  expecting
   NI2 PRI signaling B8ZS/ESF with an asterisk box providing
 PRI_Network
   signaling on a T1 interface card using a long haul point to point
  ESF/B8ZS
   T1?
  
  
  
   I do not need the technical details on how to set up asterisk or the
  remote
   PBX, just need a sanity check on the idea of using the PTP T1 as a
 cross
   connect facility. If they were local to each other I would simply
 drop
  in a
   T1 crossover cable, but they are not J
  
  
  
   Thanks!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and asterisk

2006-04-18 Thread Damon Estep
I see, I misunderstood what you meant by customer. It is not you at
one end and the customer at the other, you are doing the work for a
customer that owns both endpoints...



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 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:02 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and
asterisk
 
 On 4/18/06, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yep,
 
  I agree,
 
  Just watch out for regulatory issues if you are in the USA, handing
a
  CUSTOMER a TDM interface vs. a SIP/VoIP interface falls under a much
  different regulatory and jurisdictional set of rules...
 
 regulatory issues only apply if I'm a provider, this is all for
 implementing a private circuit.
 
 
  Have you talked to anyone that has confirmed an implementation like
  described works without issues?
 
 not as a PRI, but I have done this with 2 Adit 600s like this:
 Site A Definity 3G System  Analog station cards  Adit 600 FXO Card
 and router card  Private full T1 circuit to longdistance haul 
 Site B  Adit 600 FXS Card and router card.
 With the above config we got analog extensions of our Avaya system,
 and a local network routed over the left over channells (IIRC we did
 12 data and 12 voice, all provisioned from the Adit 600s).
 
 
  Damon
 
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[mailto:asterisk-users-
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   Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:31 PM
   To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
   Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 to cross connect remote PBX and
  asterisk
  
   In theory it should work, I have just written a proposal for
someone
   that involves such a setup. in worst case I can always utilize the
   circuit as data, and use 2 asterisk boxes one on each end to
convert
   it back to NI2.
  
   On 4/18/06, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
   
Looking for someone with a successful experience similar to
this;
   
   
   
I have a need to cross connect a 3COM NBX PBX PRI interface to
  asterisk,
   but
over a long distance. We do not need any IP connectivity and the
   solution
requires G.711u audio so there is no benefit to using IP.
   
   
   
Has anyone here successfully cross connected any PBX PRI
interface
   expecting
NI2 PRI signaling B8ZS/ESF with an asterisk box providing
  PRI_Network
signaling on a T1 interface card using a long haul point to
point
   ESF/B8ZS
T1?
   
   
   
I do not need the technical details on how to set up asterisk or
the
   remote
PBX, just need a sanity check on the idea of using the PTP T1 as
a
  cross
connect facility. If they were local to each other I would
simply
  drop
   in a
T1 crossover cable, but they are not J
   
   
   
Thanks!
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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