Re: Atompub WG meeting at the Montreal IETF
At 1:49 PM -0700 5/23/06, Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings again. The Atompub WG will have our first (and maybe last!) face-to-face meeting at the upcoming IETF meeting in Montreal at the beginning of July. The timing of us having our first WG meeting may seem odd, given the fact that we completed the Atom format document long ago, and are making good progress on the publishing protocol. However, there are reasons other than moving documents forwards for WGs to meet. Lisa Dusseault, our Area Director, asked us to have a meeting so that people active in the Atompub WG can have more interaction with the IETF, and vice versa. There is interest in the Atom format from other WGs, and there may be interest in the Atom publishing protocol as well. I propose the following agenda, which should fit well into a one-hour slot: - Intro: 10 mins - Brief overview of protocol status: 10 mins - Use of Atom format in other WGs: 30 mins - draft-saintandre-atompub-notify - Overlap with calendar formats - Overlap with mail Note that we are explicitly *not* going to discuss extensions to the Atom format at this WG meeting because they are not part of the WG charter. Lisa has said that she may help arrange a BoF session on creating a new Working Group for Atom extensions, and having at least a higher-level discussion of what extensions are out there would be appropriate in that BoF. But, to use asterisks again, such discussion is *not* part of the Atompub WG meeting. See http://www.ietf.org/meetings/IETF-66.html for details about the IETF meeting. I will let the WG know when there are preliminary and near-permanent agendas for the meeting. It would be good to meet some of you there! We are tentatively scheduled for Wednesday afternoon; see https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_agenda_html.cgi?meeting_num=66. I say tentatively because the schedule will probably shift a bit for the next two weeks; my guess is that we are 80% likely to stay in the same spot. I have not received any offers to talk about Overlap with calendar formats or Overlap with mail at the BoF, but am still quite receptive to people making such offers. --Paul Hoffman, Director --Internet Mail Consortium
Re: Atompub WG meeting at the Montreal IETF
The deadline for requesting an official BOF is Monday. The IAB and IESG are having a bit of discussion of upcoming BOFs this Thursday, even before the Monday deadline, so it would be good to have an indication of a possible request ASAP :) If an official BOF does not come together, there's always Bar BOFs, or even a mini-BOF (pseudo- BOF?) in the Apps Area meeting which is typically the Monday morning of IETF week. I'm also trying to put together some topics of general interest for the Apps Area open meeting, and there's the HTTP Authentication or anti-Phishing BOF which has already been requested and should be of interest to Atom people. I personally have had a lot of people tell me of interest in Atom extensions but it's hard to tell if there's a real possibility of the work items gelling into a charter. Lisa On May 23, 2006, at 2:31 PM, James M Snell wrote: This sounds good so long as we can get the extensions BOF scheduled the on the same day as the WG meeting. Also, it would be great if we could get together for some face-to-face interop testing before and/or after the WG meeting. - James Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings again. The Atompub WG will have our first (and maybe last!) face-to-face meeting at the upcoming IETF meeting in Montreal at the beginning of July. The timing of us having our first WG meeting may seem odd, given the fact that we completed the Atom format document long ago, and are making good progress on the publishing protocol. However, there are reasons other than moving documents forwards for WGs to meet. Lisa Dusseault, our Area Director, asked us to have a meeting so that people active in the Atompub WG can have more interaction with the IETF, and vice versa. There is interest in the Atom format from other WGs, and there may be interest in the Atom publishing protocol as well. I propose the following agenda, which should fit well into a one- hour slot: - Intro: 10 mins - Brief overview of protocol status: 10 mins - Use of Atom format in other WGs: 30 mins - draft-saintandre-atompub-notify - Overlap with calendar formats - Overlap with mail Note that we are explicitly *not* going to discuss extensions to the Atom format at this WG meeting because they are not part of the WG charter. Lisa has said that she may help arrange a BoF session on creating a new Working Group for Atom extensions, and having at least a higher-level discussion of what extensions are out there would be appropriate in that BoF. But, to use asterisks again, such discussion is *not* part of the Atompub WG meeting. See http://www.ietf.org/meetings/IETF-66.html for details about the IETF meeting. I will let the WG know when there are preliminary and near-permanent agendas for the meeting. It would be good to meet some of you there! --Paul Hoffman, Director --Internet Mail Consortium
Re: Atompub WG meeting at the Montreal IETF
On 5/23/06, Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The timing of us having our first WG meeting may seem odd, given the fact that we completed the Atom format document long ago, and are making good progress on the publishing protocol. We are? Pull the trigger, already. I propose the following agenda, which should fit well into a one-hour slot: Looks like that will be a very good use of time. -- Robert Sayre
Re: Atompub WG meeting at the Montreal IETF
This sounds good so long as we can get the extensions BOF scheduled the on the same day as the WG meeting. Also, it would be great if we could get together for some face-to-face interop testing before and/or after the WG meeting. - James Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings again. The Atompub WG will have our first (and maybe last!) face-to-face meeting at the upcoming IETF meeting in Montreal at the beginning of July. The timing of us having our first WG meeting may seem odd, given the fact that we completed the Atom format document long ago, and are making good progress on the publishing protocol. However, there are reasons other than moving documents forwards for WGs to meet. Lisa Dusseault, our Area Director, asked us to have a meeting so that people active in the Atompub WG can have more interaction with the IETF, and vice versa. There is interest in the Atom format from other WGs, and there may be interest in the Atom publishing protocol as well. I propose the following agenda, which should fit well into a one-hour slot: - Intro: 10 mins - Brief overview of protocol status: 10 mins - Use of Atom format in other WGs: 30 mins - draft-saintandre-atompub-notify - Overlap with calendar formats - Overlap with mail Note that we are explicitly *not* going to discuss extensions to the Atom format at this WG meeting because they are not part of the WG charter. Lisa has said that she may help arrange a BoF session on creating a new Working Group for Atom extensions, and having at least a higher-level discussion of what extensions are out there would be appropriate in that BoF. But, to use asterisks again, such discussion is *not* part of the Atompub WG meeting. See http://www.ietf.org/meetings/IETF-66.html for details about the IETF meeting. I will let the WG know when there are preliminary and near-permanent agendas for the meeting. It would be good to meet some of you there! --Paul Hoffman, Director --Internet Mail Consortium
Re: Atompub WG meeting at the Montreal IETF
At 2:31 PM -0700 5/23/06, James M Snell wrote: This sounds good so long as we can get the extensions BOF scheduled the on the same day as the WG meeting. Good point. The fact that the WG meeting is one hour strongly suggests that we will be on Tuesday afternoon, the traditional time for one-hour slots. If Lisa's BoF is also one hour, it is very likely to be that day as well. If she goes for an informal Bar BoF, it could be lunch or dinner that day. Also, it would be great if we could get together for some face-to-face interop testing before and/or after the WG meeting. That can be arranged for the weekend before; I'll be in Montreal early. Depending on the number of people, we could just get together in a hallway somewhere, or maybe in someone's Montreal office, or something. --Paul Hoffman, Director --Internet Mail Consortium
